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Speaker 1: I am Chad Mellman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
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Speaker 1: We are bringing back the most revolutionary creative novel concept
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Speaker 1: that has been introduced into the podcasting world this quarter
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Speaker 1: since May. We're calling it what are the Odds? Everyone
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Speaker 1: knows it, everyone loves it. We're getting listeners to send
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Speaker 1: in their random events in their life, and our math
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Speaker 1: geniuses are Predictive Analytics team Sean Kerner and Nick Giffen
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Speaker 1: are putting the odds on something like this act really
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Speaker 1: happening before we bring them in. Simmon Hunter, my co host,
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Speaker 1: meant BFF, my companion, my compadre, professional better. This is
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Speaker 1: turned in one of my favorite things and podcasting. Now.
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Speaker 1: You love you and you love your own ideas. So
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Speaker 1: this is this is right up your alley chat, something
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Speaker 1: you came up with on your own show. Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: it's too good to be true. So I'm shocked. I
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Speaker 1: enjoy it because usually I just said, yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: great yet just to be nice to you. But I
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Speaker 1: love it. I love hearing the odds of things because
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Speaker 1: it's so interesting knowing there's always math bind everything in life.
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Speaker 1: That was something I learned very early on that every
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Speaker 1: little thing you can think of in this entire world,
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Speaker 1: everything around you, it's math, and like that freaks people out,
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Speaker 1: but that's the truth. So hearing these guys come on
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Speaker 1: to give us a math equation to a random moment
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Speaker 1: in life, it's the best simon. As usual. You've cut
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Speaker 1: to the quick and both hurt my feelings and identified
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Speaker 1: things about me that I swear to God, like I
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Speaker 1: thought only my life really understand and I thought I
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Speaker 1: was foodling everybody else, and then you come out with that.
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Speaker 1: But and while what you said as a hundred percent
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Speaker 1: accurate about me again, Full credit for the idea to
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Schiffman of West Hartford, Connecticut, who came up with
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Speaker 1: the segment when we were having drinks me, her husband Mike,
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Speaker 1: close friends of ours, my wife Stacy. I told him
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Speaker 1: the story. She said you should do that on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Call it what are the odds? Asked? Viewers ask listeners.
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Speaker 1: All credit to jen Schiffman, content creator, coroner and Nick
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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I feel like coroner and Nick, that's
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Speaker 1: like a great show. It could be a great restaurant. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: I'll get to it. Here we go. What are the odds?
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Speaker 1: Listener Evan Pluso sent us a golf story covered recently
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Speaker 1: by the Minneapolis Star Tribune. It is Taylor made for
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Speaker 1: this segment. It began Thursday, June two at the Minneapolis
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Speaker 1: Golf Club when thirteen year old Preston Miller carded his
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Speaker 1: first career hole in one. But young Preston, who plays
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Speaker 1: varsity golf at local St. Louis Park High School, didn't
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Speaker 1: save the ball as a key sake. Instead, he kept
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Speaker 1: playing with the same ball, and he lost it three
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Speaker 1: holes later after it struck a treat. He finished his
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Speaker 1: round and head to the clubhouse, and by the same time,
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Speaker 1: a golfer named ri Ricardo was searching deep in the
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Speaker 1: rough for his own ball when he came across Preston's titlist,
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Speaker 1: which had a St. Louis Park logo on it with
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Speaker 1: no one in site. Ricardo correctly assumed the ball was
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Speaker 1: lost and put it into his own bag. Near the
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Speaker 1: end of Ricardo's round on whole sixteen, he needed a
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Speaker 1: new ball, so he grabbed Preston's lost ball from his
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Speaker 1: bag at random and proceeded to card his fourth career
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Speaker 1: hole in one with it. After Ricardo showed off his
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Speaker 1: ball at the end of the round, the connection was
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Speaker 1: made in the clubhouse and Preston was called over to
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Speaker 1: confirm it was indeed his ball, and it became official.
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Speaker 1: The same golf ball had been used by two separate
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Speaker 1: golfers on the same course on the same day to
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Speaker 1: sink two separate holes in one. They asked the club's
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Speaker 1: head pro about it, and he doubted such a feat
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Speaker 1: had ever been accomplished before. Engulfs long history, we ask you,
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Speaker 1: croner and gift them. What are the odds? First off,
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Speaker 1: this is by far the craziest story we have done
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Speaker 1: so far, so let's go through each event one by one.
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Speaker 1: So there's really four things that needed to happen here.
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Speaker 1: The first was thirteen year old Preston had to hit
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Speaker 1: a hole of one on whole four, so we gave
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Speaker 1: him the average golfers odds, which is about twelve th
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Speaker 1: one to do that. But let me pause right there
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Speaker 1: that the fact that President did not stash his ball
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Speaker 1: away after hitting the hole of one is one of
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Speaker 1: the crazier things about this story like that that's insane
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Speaker 1: to me. So just for that to happen alone is
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Speaker 1: already pretty crazy, But we gave him twelve th one
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Speaker 1: to do that. Funny thing is Sean and I. We
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Speaker 1: try to throw cold water in a lot of these.
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Speaker 1: But everything we're doing here is like underestimating craziness of this.
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Speaker 1: First of all, the kids shouldn't have to be playing
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Speaker 1: with this ball. We're we're essentially saying this is like
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Speaker 1: the floor for these odds. The fact that he did
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Speaker 1: keep playing with his ball. Call Preston here. You know,
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Speaker 1: now he has to play with it on holes four
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Speaker 1: or five, six, and then a whole seven he shanks.
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Speaker 1: It ends up like in the brush area in whole twelve.
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Speaker 1: So now where we sending odds and was shaking it.
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Speaker 1: But then also Ricardo had to come across Preston's ball,
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Speaker 1: and this was definitely the toughest part to calculate. We're
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Speaker 1: giving that about a five o one chance of happening.
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Speaker 1: This is an area we're probably underestimating the odds. But
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Speaker 1: let's jump to step number three. So now that Ricardo
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Speaker 1: has this ball, we need to calculate the probability they
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Speaker 1: actually uses this ball. And when we did some research
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Speaker 1: on this and we read that Ricardo put the ball
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Speaker 1: in his bag and continue to play with the ball
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Speaker 1: that he had been using. So we had the rest
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Speaker 1: of whole twelve, fourteen, and fifteen to potentially lose this
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Speaker 1: ball that he had been playing with to have to
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Speaker 1: grab another ball. So let's a there's a chance he
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Speaker 1: doesn't lose the ball per hole on hole and fifteen,
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Speaker 1: so there's about a fifteen percent chance he would need
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Speaker 1: to turn to a new ball. Chance he keeps that ball.
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Speaker 1: So again, let's say one in six that he actually
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Speaker 1: needs to turn to a new ball. And we said,
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Speaker 1: if he turns to a new ball, we gave it
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Speaker 1: a chance he'd use this ball like he did, put
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Speaker 1: it right on top in the bag and he pulled
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Speaker 1: the one right off top, so we figured it's a
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Speaker 1: very good chance that, you know, he did grab this ball.
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Speaker 1: So one in six chance again of actually using this
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Speaker 1: ball on whole sixteen. Yeah, So then the last step
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Speaker 1: in this crazy story is Ricardo needed to hit a
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Speaker 1: hole in one on hole sixteen because that was the
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Speaker 1: only part three the rest of the way, so it
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Speaker 1: had to be this whole and considering Ricardo has already
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Speaker 1: made three hole and ones in his career, he's an
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Speaker 1: above average golfer. So we didn't give him the twelve
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Speaker 1: thousand one odds that we gave President. We gave him
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Speaker 1: closer to eight thousand and one. We thought that was
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Speaker 1: pretty fair. So after all that, after it's all said
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Speaker 1: and done, that gives us the probability of a three
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Speaker 1: point five billion to one that this would happen. And again,
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Speaker 1: the chances of Preston continuing to use that ball is crazy.
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Speaker 1: In my opinion, we didn't factor that in the fact
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Speaker 1: that Preston probably hit his worst shot of the entire
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Speaker 1: round on whole seven that needed to happen for Card
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Speaker 1: to find the ball, we couldn't really factor that in,
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Speaker 1: so again we're kind of underestimating it. So in theory,
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Speaker 1: this could be closer to ten billion to one if
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Speaker 1: if we're being honest, ten billion to one. What what
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Speaker 1: I love about this is Simon's right, like you boiled
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Speaker 1: down the map and the fact that you guys are
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Speaker 1: thinking so creatively about what you have to ascribe the
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Speaker 1: odds to. The odds need to be that not that
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Speaker 1: he shanks it. But that Ricardo finds the shank right.
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Speaker 1: At moments in this story it feels like you're taking
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Speaker 1: all the joy out of it, and then other times
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Speaker 1: when we get to the end, I'm just so glad
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Speaker 1: we got to a big number. Yeah, this is way
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Speaker 1: less likely than your band aid story. By the way,
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Speaker 1: a listener tweeted me and said that the odds I
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Speaker 1: had quoted on a recent podcast where I said it
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Speaker 1: was about food one didn't make sense and he hadn't
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Speaker 1: heard Nick your explanation of it. I do need to
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Speaker 1: make a correction because the real odds I think we
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Speaker 1: decided were like ten thousand one, which made more sense.
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Speaker 1: And of course I love that this listener had done
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Speaker 1: the math, like you have to assume this number of
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Speaker 1: flights this that he had actually looked at, like there
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Speaker 1: were fifty flights in this window at this time, this
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Speaker 1: number of passengers on this train. I'm like, dude, you
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Speaker 1: are deep and you are right. I'm giving the correction.
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Speaker 1: I apologize Nick and sewn great job, fellas the best
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Speaker 1: one yet definitely, And there's no underlying chop here. These
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Speaker 1: are all the straight things that just had to happen,
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Speaker 1: So there's just a totally crazy story. I also agree
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Speaker 1: that how cocky is this Preston kid that he's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to save that ball. I'll probably hit
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Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, he's only thirteen. This this is probably
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Speaker 1: first of many holy ones. But still I am a
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Speaker 1: memorabilia kind of guy. I would just keep it and
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Speaker 1: not even risk it. He risked it because he said,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard to lose the ball on
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Speaker 1: this course, and he he didn't even think he would
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Speaker 1: lose it. He says he almost never loses the ball here,
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Speaker 1: and I guess he just kept playing with it. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: I would have. I would have pocketed that thing right,
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Speaker 1: As I've said a thousands of times. Fucking kids. Sean
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Speaker 1: past year two if not for some sort of bad
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Speaker 1: decision making. In our opinions, what this is from Stevie
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Speaker 1: in our opinions, what would the perfect season long NFL
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Speaker 1: betting contest look like? Um, that's hard because it is
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Speaker 1: it is pretty good. That what they have now the
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Speaker 1: five I like the Draft Kings where we had the
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Speaker 1: year we had the two buys like that was kind
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Speaker 1: of like cool with the figure out what weeks to
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Speaker 1: skip and what weeks to play was kind of interesting wrinkle.
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Speaker 1: But to me, a perfect one would be just picking
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Speaker 1: three games a week, like no, no normal pro bets,
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Speaker 1: you know, big money on five different games. But any
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Speaker 1: given week three games that sounds about right. Like that
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Speaker 1: three games will I'll be locked in on and think
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Speaker 1: I'll find really good value. So the five game thing
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Speaker 1: I like because it helps the Joe Schmo like the guys,
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Speaker 1: like just a public better that wants to do these contests. Um,
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Speaker 1: I feel like that gives them an advantage over a
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Speaker 1: pro because you know, every every game you add, just
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Speaker 1: like in parlays, your odds go down. I'm getting it right.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's really hard to go five and O.
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Speaker 1: So you know the pro with me, yeah, I wish
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Speaker 1: it was just three games a week, but I honestly think,
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Speaker 1: That's that's probably the contest for you, other than day.
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Speaker 1: You know. Well, what I agree with you is what
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Speaker 1: I also like about DK is you don't have the
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Speaker 1: lock until Sunday, and so you concur us though, what's
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Speaker 1: that that actually hurt us? Well, it hurt us because
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Speaker 1: hurt us because we like let lines influence us and
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Speaker 1: we started to play. Yeah, we just you know, we
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Speaker 1: the contest fault. Um. So I like that. Uh, I
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Speaker 1: like that there's a late lock um. I think that's great.
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Speaker 1: A lot of contests do a Thursday lock Um. I
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Speaker 1: agree with you on the three I'd much rather do
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Speaker 1: that if I if I were building a perfect contest,
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Speaker 1: I'd make it even a little more sharper at the
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Speaker 1: risk of excluding people who, um, who might not play it. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: maybe you increase the entry fee, make it three games,
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Speaker 1: create a little bit more situational strategy, so you can
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Speaker 1: start to include live betting. Because I think that is
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Speaker 1: becoming a much bigger deal in the betting space right now.
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Speaker 1: Can you buy out at halftime? Can you find a
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Speaker 1: half point if you can bet the other side or
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Speaker 1: make the right decision sort of strategically to find a
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Speaker 1: way to get yourself to even or with a little
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Speaker 1: money on a game that looks like it's going to
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Speaker 1: be a loss. I'd like to incorporate live betting. But ultimately,
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Speaker 1: the perfect season long NFL betting contest. What does it
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Speaker 1: look like? It's one with you and me at the
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Speaker 1: top of the rankings. Try to simplify things that you
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Speaker 1: just throw in a whole wrench, but like, yeah, let
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Speaker 1: just add live betting to a contest. It's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: make it as complicated complicated as you can. I think
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Speaker 1: it will separate sort of the joes from the schmos,
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Speaker 1: and I think it'll make a little bit more strength. Um.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's see here's another one. It's about live betting.
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Speaker 1: Um from Chris. It was reported that NFL Sunday Ticket
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Speaker 1: will leave direct TV and move to a streaming service
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Speaker 1: in do you see the short delays caused by streaming
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Speaker 1: impacting NFL live betting? Is there a way to be
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Speaker 1: proactive to avoid this. Yeah, it's brutal. Um. If you're
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Speaker 1: if you like again, if you're a live better, you
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Speaker 1: need cable, Like there's no no YouTube, TV, no streaming
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Speaker 1: services to watch your games like that. I mean, that's tough.
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Speaker 1: It's honestly. That's why a lot of guys, I know,
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Speaker 1: they don't even own cable. Like, if they're gonna go
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Speaker 1: watch a game, they go to the book and that's
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Speaker 1: where they live betting. If they're been on their phones,
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Speaker 1: they bet at the book because they want live lines,
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Speaker 1: they want live place. So to me, if you if
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Speaker 1: you're just a fan of it and you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: be you know, like some of these degenerates where it's
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Speaker 1: like I want that half a second ahead so I
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Speaker 1: can get this underbet before everyone else knows. This guy
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Speaker 1: gets sacked. Like it's rare you can pull off that
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Speaker 1: half a second bet because most of these books updates
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Speaker 1: so quick and they check your bet before they approve
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Speaker 1: your bet. So it's not that big of a difference
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Speaker 1: is people make it out to be, But it definitely
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Speaker 1: is a difference. Like if you're on a TV that's
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Speaker 1: a fourteen second delay, you can get caught. You can
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Speaker 1: bet on a team all of a sudden, the guy
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Speaker 1: throws a pick six and it's like, wow, I just
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Speaker 1: literally lied bet this guy. If I wouldn't on a
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Speaker 1: fourteen second delay that that would that cost me some money.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, the Apple TV, I'm a I'm a fan
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Speaker 1: of it, honestly, like them getting Sunday ticket. To me,
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Speaker 1: that's that's great because me and Chad our job is
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Speaker 1: the product of the NFL. More people are gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to watch that than the Sunday ticket, So that's
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Speaker 1: great from that aspect. From the gambling aspect, you can't
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Speaker 1: lie bet delays like that if you're trying to bet
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Speaker 1: real big money. Yeah, the delays are really a hindrance
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Speaker 1: for live betting, and I know a lot of markets
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Speaker 1: are a lot of books would like live betting to
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Speaker 1: become more of their handle and have it be akin
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Speaker 1: to what's happening in Europe where live betting is upwards
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Speaker 1: of seventy of the handle. But the most popular sports
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Speaker 1: for live betting are tennis and obviously soccer, and especially
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Speaker 1: with soccer, they're just more of an opportunity as games
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Speaker 1: go on to make live bets just because of the
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Speaker 1: sort of length of time between action. Really really hard
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Speaker 1: to do that with the NFL, even look given the
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Speaker 1: night at earlier this year during the NBA playoffs when
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Speaker 1: the finals were happening, I was watching the finals and
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Speaker 1: like one of my kids friends who we were watching
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Speaker 1: it with, um, he was trying to bet bait me
18:53
Speaker 1: into betting whether or not a guy was going to
18:54
Speaker 1: make a free throw. But he was getting text from
18:56
Speaker 1: a buddy about what was happening because the buddy was
18:58
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead. So it's just really hard to
19:01
Speaker 1: manage that. Yeah, now it's dangerous game. From David, what
19:06
Speaker 1: is a normal daylight for both of you during the
19:09
Speaker 1: NFL offseason, particularly NFL slow period of May and June.
19:13
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say, just because COVID kind
19:15
Speaker 1: of threw a wrench and everything. Like usually honestly would
19:18
Speaker 1: just be traveling or visiting other pros or visiting friends
19:20
Speaker 1: from like growing up and just traveling a lot. To
19:22
Speaker 1: stay busy because I'm like most people, if I'm not
19:25
Speaker 1: being busy doing stuff, I'm usually spending money on stupid
19:28
Speaker 1: ship or gambling like a degenerate I am. So I
19:31
Speaker 1: try to stay busy this year it's been a little different.
19:34
Speaker 1: I've been in definitely more like you know, shaking hands,
19:37
Speaker 1: kissing babies, like meeting with different people, meeting with other pros,
19:41
Speaker 1: and like kind of setting stuff up, just because the
19:43
Speaker 1: legalization has really changed everything in my life. Like I mean,
19:46
Speaker 1: I used to maybe get three four phone calls a
19:49
Speaker 1: day in the off season. Now I'm getting calls constantly
19:51
Speaker 1: just because New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, these areas are
19:56
Speaker 1: becoming pretty big deal in the gambling world. Like not
20:00
Speaker 1: it's not what Vegas used to be, Like Vegas used
20:02
Speaker 1: to be the spot. Now it's kind of becoming the Northeast.
20:04
Speaker 1: So it's definitely been different for me during this offseason.
20:08
Speaker 1: I say, a normal day would just be that it's
20:10
Speaker 1: like I just try to keep busy, maybe go for
20:12
Speaker 1: walks and do whatever, but just a lot of phone
20:15
Speaker 1: calls and a lot of conversation of like what's the
20:17
Speaker 1: next move, what's the next step with with what everything's
20:19
Speaker 1: going in the sports gambling world. I would say I
20:22
Speaker 1: usually get up about six thirty and then I try
20:25
Speaker 1: to do like, you know, ten minutes of stretching, just
20:27
Speaker 1: some me time. You know, it's not self love is
20:30
Speaker 1: not selfish. Then I'll take my kid to school, come back,
20:34
Speaker 1: have a little breakfast, maybe an espresso, a little bit
20:36
Speaker 1: of smoke salmon, no bagel or anything, just to smoke salmon,
20:39
Speaker 1: some olive oil and lemon on top of that, and
20:41
Speaker 1: maybe some overnight oats. Then I'll probably hit the peloton
20:46
Speaker 1: or maybe the echelant the rowing machine. Then I take
20:48
Speaker 1: a shot or maybe I'll walk the dog, depending if
20:50
Speaker 1: my wife is able to do it or not. Then
20:52
Speaker 1: I'm in zoom meetings May and June because you know,
20:55
Speaker 1: my real job is as an executive, not as uh.
20:58
Speaker 1: Podcast blow Hard are all about planning. It's my It's
21:01
Speaker 1: honestly so much fun when we're figuring out what we
21:03
Speaker 1: want to do during football, when we're in heavy hiring mode.
21:07
Speaker 1: We're like thinking strategically and figuring out what's going to
21:10
Speaker 1: happen for the rest of the year, getting some deals done.
21:13
Speaker 1: It's all blue sky, it's all optimism. You haven't lost
21:16
Speaker 1: anything during the NFL season yet where the pressure is
21:19
Speaker 1: really intense. So me and June usually executive NG and
21:23
Speaker 1: then Matt Mitchell is telling me what we're gonna talk
21:25
Speaker 1: about in the podcast. Not Mitchell, You've got anything to
21:27
Speaker 1: add to that. I like that you think being a
21:29
Speaker 1: podcast blowhard, it's just a it's just a barnacle on
21:32
Speaker 1: your professional ship. That's nice. That's nice that you find
21:36
Speaker 1: time to squeeze that in. It's one to in my
21:39
Speaker 1: brain power. Isn't it like that for everybody? Let's see
21:45
Speaker 1: in the last few seasons. This is from Connor, there
21:48
Speaker 1: have been times when NFL games have become unwatchable. Completely agree,
21:53
Speaker 1: from so many delays in the action, replay reviews, injury,
21:55
Speaker 1: time outs, penalties, commercial breaks. As a game bring viewer,
22:01
Speaker 1: it can even be tough to finish the game start
22:02
Speaker 1: to finish. Could not agree more. Do we foresee any
22:06
Speaker 1: changes in the NFL's and entertainment products in the years
22:08
Speaker 1: to come faster games? Is the money involved too large
22:12
Speaker 1: to expect meaningful changes. I think they'll be changes. I
22:15
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to do with money. I think
22:16
Speaker 1: like the product just needs to improve. Last year you
22:20
Speaker 1: could see they were making too many holding calls. Earlier
22:23
Speaker 1: in the year, it was stopping every fucking game. The
22:25
Speaker 1: year before it was the p I s like it
22:28
Speaker 1: was really interminable. How they call these games, and it
22:32
Speaker 1: becomes unwatchable because of that. So to me, I think
22:34
Speaker 1: they'll reevaluate as they always do, how aggressive their calling
22:38
Speaker 1: penalties and the impact that has in the flow of
22:40
Speaker 1: the game. Connor, my friend, don't be anxious. Were you
22:44
Speaker 1: in the rush? Where are you going? Why is chatting
22:46
Speaker 1: a rush? You guys have nothing to do, you have
22:47
Speaker 1: nowhere to go, There's nothing going on. So I'm the
22:50
Speaker 1: other way. It's like, I don't care. I just want
22:52
Speaker 1: them to get these games right. Like my biggest pet
22:54
Speaker 1: peeve is fandom calls or calls deciding games. Like, I'm
22:58
Speaker 1: with you on that. That's some of this rough freestoff.
23:00
Speaker 1: There's too much money involved, like they have to clean up.
23:02
Speaker 1: I can't tell me any bets last year that you know,
23:04
Speaker 1: people had a bad taste in their mouth because it
23:05
Speaker 1: felt like a referee decided a game at the end
23:07
Speaker 1: of the game. So I'm with you on that. But
23:10
Speaker 1: the commercial breaks all that other stuff, It's just like,
23:13
Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels like that's if that's the
23:15
Speaker 1: price we pay for a great product. It's like, I'm
23:17
Speaker 1: cool with it, but I feel like everyone gets the
23:20
Speaker 1: NFL at this point. It's like if a team goes
23:23
Speaker 1: three and out and it's a Monday night game. They
23:25
Speaker 1: don't care the other team just went three and out.
23:27
Speaker 1: They're gonna show another commercial afterwards. So yeah, it drives
23:30
Speaker 1: me a little crazy, but that's what cell phones are for.
23:32
Speaker 1: Just look at your phone for two minutes and then
23:33
Speaker 1: look up. Look football is back on. So I try
23:36
Speaker 1: not to be too down about all the commercial breaks
23:38
Speaker 1: because I get it. It's all a product. You're so
23:41
Speaker 1: wise and patient, Simon. I try, Chad. If I hadn't
23:46
Speaker 1: been assigned that March Madness Vegas story back in your
23:48
Speaker 1: magazine days, would your career play out differently. I wasn't
23:52
Speaker 1: even assigned it. It was a trade a buddy of
23:56
Speaker 1: mine named Brendan O'Connor, who was an editor of the
23:59
Speaker 1: magazine as well. I had been to sign the story,
24:01
Speaker 1: and then he got a sign a bigger story. He
24:05
Speaker 1: wanted to go do a feature on the Catcher Jason Kendall,
24:08
Speaker 1: who played for the Pirates. So he was going to
24:10
Speaker 1: go do that bigger story and asked me if I
24:12
Speaker 1: would do the Vegas story. He gave me all of
24:14
Speaker 1: his notes. It was great, and if I don't do that,
24:19
Speaker 1: I end up not writing the book. The odds because
24:21
Speaker 1: it was based on one of the guys I profiled
24:23
Speaker 1: in the magazine story. Then I don't learn anything about betting.
24:27
Speaker 1: I don't learn anything about this shadow world. I don't
24:30
Speaker 1: start blogging about it, tving about it, podcasting about it.
24:34
Speaker 1: None of it. It's not part of my life. So yeah,
24:37
Speaker 1: a d total game changer. You've got this one from
24:41
Speaker 1: John which I thought of it did think of a
24:43
Speaker 1: name for us. It's if Chad and Simon were traveling
24:46
Speaker 1: comedy act, what would their name be? I came up with.
24:49
Speaker 1: Simon says, don't be a Chad. Why does it have
24:52
Speaker 1: to be mean about me? Because Chad's a hated name.
24:55
Speaker 1: It's just your fault. It's just what the world's become.
24:58
Speaker 1: So Simon says, don't be a chat. I feel like
25:01
Speaker 1: it gets both of our names. It's both things we
25:03
Speaker 1: hated because I hated Simon says growing up, I know
25:06
Speaker 1: Chad hates don't be a Chad. So it's a perfect combo.
25:10
Speaker 1: That is a great That is a great idea, Simon.
25:13
Speaker 1: I feel like Matt Mitchell would have a field day
25:17
Speaker 1: writing comedy gold for us for that for that act
25:21
Speaker 1: T shirt. Now that's already being a man into a
25:23
Speaker 1: T shirt. Such a good idea merch merch alert, true story.
25:28
Speaker 1: New York magazine did um a story about the phrase
25:31
Speaker 1: Chad and like the female equivalent was a Stacy, my
25:36
Speaker 1: wife's name. That's crazy. So uh, she's cut out like
25:42
Speaker 1: the headline from that and put on our bulletin board.
25:44
Speaker 1: And our kids troll us as you can imagine about
25:46
Speaker 1: that all the time. I love it. Great questions, keep
25:51
Speaker 1: them coming. We will try to do one more male
25:53
Speaker 1: Bag before we get to the end of the season,
25:56
Speaker 1: but even if we don't, we can answer questions throughout
25:59
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. This has been the favorite
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