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Hüsker Dü · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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  band. That's right, we've done all the
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  work for you. All you have to do is press play
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  and listen. My name is Justin and you could
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  call me band Curious because I am indeed curious about bands.
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  These bands get put in front of me.
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  I like to talk to my friends about why it is that they like
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  these bands. And in doing so, we will create
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  a top ten circuit list to get you started on this band.
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  And today is of course not like or not unlike is the word I'm
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  trying to say. Any other of those you could say
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  it's not funny anymore. You could say we're going out on
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  a limb. However you say it.
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  We're talking about Husker do today and I feel like this is
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  kind of an important one. John, I, I don't know how
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  important it is to you, 'cause I, I know you already said like
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  you're really proud of your 20, but like, is, am I right to
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  assume that this is kind of up there for you or is, is this
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  just something you're, you're interested just to talk about
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  the band? Oh, it's it's definitely up
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  there for me. I mean, his Purdue is one of my
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  favorite bands of all time. They're they're in that top ten
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  pushing that top five. This is, yeah, this is one that
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  I've been wanting to do for a long time.
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  I think we had, we had someone else on it for a long time and
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  then they dropped off and then these guys jumped in.
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  So I'm, I'm grateful to do it. It's been a long time coming.
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  But yeah, this is one that I've that I've always kind of had
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  that 20 going in my head. Like every time.
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  Like someday we're going to do this episode and I'm gonna have
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  to, I'm gonna have to come up with a list on this.
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  But yeah, whose career is like they are maybe, you know, you
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  could say, you know, R.E.M is up there as well, but Husker Du may
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  be the most important band of the 80s.
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  Like they existed from what, 79 to 88?
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  And basically everything that came after is is is influenced
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  by them. They are, in my opinion, the
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  greatest power trio of all time. People will you can say Cream,
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  you can say Rush, people will say whatever.
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  But to me mean Husker do is the perfect three piece band.
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  I mean, Bob Mold, one of the greatest songwriters of our
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  generation, evidenced by his solo work, his work in Sugar,
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  who's just reunited Grant Hart, one of the like the perfect foil
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  to him, like a drummer songwriter, which is unusual.
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  And like, I've like Grant Hart has been like a big in my, in my
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  listening over the last year. Like I've listened to so much of
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  his stuff, like been on a big grand hard kick for about 12
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  months. And then Greg Norton, the
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  mustachioed bass player, holds it all together.
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  Like they're just like the perfect alchemy of a of a band.
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  And like they have this transition.
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  They start off as this like super fast thrash band.
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  And like you, you can't even discern what notes they're
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  playing, they're playing so fast.
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  And then they it gets more melodic and there's this this
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  transition. They have one of the greatest
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  albums of all time, which we'll get to.
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  And then they turn into this more like poppy band.
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  They were on Joan Rivers, which is a random thing in like 1987.
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  But yeah, there's, there's such a deep like history with them
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  and there's so much to to dig into.
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  We have, we didn't have time to, or the, the time to cover it
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  all. But you know, and over the last
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  year, you know, the Numero group has been reissuing some of their
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  stuff, like some live stuff, some unreleased stuff.
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  It's just been so good. I've been like they they, they
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  might be my most listened to band over the last year.
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  So I don't remember like how this all comes together.
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  I think maybe John, you put it out in in the discord and that's
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  how Christian you get on board. Yeah, I think so.
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  Can I just say before we start, I'm really delighted to be on a
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  panel with John again. John was my Co panellist on my
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  very first episode of the programmed.
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  It was Sabado about 18 months or so ago, I think, and we've not
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  done done one together since. So it's good to be back with
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  with John. And I was just saying before,
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  really pleased also to be on with with Gavin because really
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  liked his his take on the the best of last year and and the
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  recent pulp episode. So I'm really, really excited
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  about this, this panel and really happy to be here.
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  In terms of Skidoo, it's it's been mostly discovery for me.
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  I knew one album, but I'd always kind of been, it's a great
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  excuse for me to do a discovery because when I was about, I
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  don't know, 17/18/19, my favorite band was the
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  Lemonheads. And incidentally, the Lemonheads
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  was my very first this, which is how I discovered the show
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  actually, because I was looking for Lemonhead stuff.
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  I was in a Lemonheads headspace a couple of years ago when I
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  found the episode on them. But in on one of their albums,
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  it's creator. I think at the end, there's a
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  there's an exit from a an interview with the band on on a
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  Dutch radio station. And it's a really funny
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  interview and the interviewer sort of talks about, oh, you're
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  influenced by this, You're influenced by that.
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  And and then Evan Dando just just takes it the whole
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  interview and just says, yeah, we just RIP off band.
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  We we slavishly imitate these bands and that band.
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  And it gets really funny. But what they start with by by
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  saying is they say, no, you're people say you're like early
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  Huska Doo, early replacements. And sort of from then on it's
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  like, oh, Huska Doo, I should listen to them.
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  And I picked up warehouse in a second hand store and I really
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  liked that, but I never really kind of went backwards from
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  there. And I, I really like sugar, the
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  stuff that they did when they came out, particularly copper
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  blue. So sort of Bob mold was sort of
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  on my, on my kind of radar And I, I knew that he was, you know,
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  mentioned by a lot of bands as being a very influential person
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  and character in that whole alternative scene.
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  So it's been something that's kind of been always there for me
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  with this band that I felt that I should and I I I've never
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  quite got there. So this is this.
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  This was like, yeah, this is a perfect excuse for me to dive
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  right back into into Husker do and actually finally do that
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  deep dive that I've been meaning to do for the last umpteen
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  years. Really.
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  What I like to say about Deprogrammed is we, we give
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  everybody the excuse to dive in on a band.
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  So, so happy to have been able to give that to you.
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  I get the feeling that this is kind of, I don't want to say old
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  hat for you, Gavin, but I get the feeling that this is, I
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  don't want to say easy for you, but this is an easy one for you
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  to jump in on. Yeah, yeah.
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  Thanks for having me back. We were talking before the show
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  and I really have enjoyed listening to Christian's
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  episodes. It's so cool that he's in Wales
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  and carrying the torch for the 90s.
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  It's funny that Lemonheads episode Christian was my first
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  episode that I did and it was John and Justin.
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  My first episode was with John too.
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  Yeah. And yeah, like I remember seeing
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  who's Curdue on the cutting edge, like the IRS show when I
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  was in high school, John, like the year that that period that
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  John was talking about, like maybe like 85 John, right.
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  Where like those bands that we kind of loved started getting
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  mainstream press like Maps, you know, and, and Sonic Youth and
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  the Lemon Heads. Perfect example.
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  In in 1984 and 1985, like Whose Crew Do might be the best band
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  in the world? Dude, in those two years they
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  put out those 3 records in a row.
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  In two years and a. Double including a double.
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  Zen Arcade, New Day Rising and Flip Your wig in two Years is
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  crazy. That's such a crazy like thing
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  to pull off, but it was kind of like Dustin.
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  It was kind of like the like when it was the precursor to
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  like alternative music taking over the world, right?
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  What you're going to see in a minute with like gains addiction
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  then is the next step. And then you go into like grunge
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  and stuff, right? So who's going to do is kind of
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  like the first jumper, you know, from obscurity into like
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  becoming sort of like really championed by music writers,
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  which at that point you still had music writers, you know, in
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  the mainstream press. And yeah, I mean, I had friends
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  that like worshipped whose curdue they were never like a
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  like a top, top band for me. But like, yeah, I kind of we we
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  have a lot of opportunity to piss John off.
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  I think on this episode. I think he's probably the one
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  we're most in the game here. So I mean, I, I will definitely
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  say that for this band, it's not always true for all my bands,
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  but for this band, I definitely learn more toward, I think when
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  they lean into melodicism and and try to like write a pop
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  song, it's like so incredible and fun, you know?
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  So I learn more into like those types of songs for who's Purdue
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  and there's plenty of them and they're fucking great.
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  And it's not always Grant Heart that writes them.
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  Bob Mould does plenty of that, so lots to talk about here.
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  I feel like this is a band that it it's not like Beatles and
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  Zeppelin level of hey, you should listen to this, Justin,
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  but I I do feel like this is a band that I probably should have
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  already listened to by now. Like I I I shouldn't have needed
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  this excuse to do to do that. I mean, I'm glad I do, but like
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  it. It feels like everything about
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  Husker Do is a band that should have already been in, at least
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  at the very least on my radar. Somebody even compared my band
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  to them and I was like, I don't, I mean, I'm glad, but I've never
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  heard them, you know? So it's like, I feel like they
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  kind of accidentally kind of to your point, John, you know, if
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  they influenced so many people, that probably influenced me that
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  I didn't even know that they were influencing me.
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  Nirvana. Nirvana doesn't exist.
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  With that, who's good to Yeah. See, and so it's like they they
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  should have been on somebody. Actually, my drummer, funnily
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  enough, years ago made fun of me because, you know, I I don't
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  want to say I discounted classic rock or or whatever.
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  Like the joke became Justin doesn't like classic rock.
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  And, you know, it's because he was saying you should get any of
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  these bands because they influence the bands that you
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  like. And I've always like butted
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  against that. Like, I don't I don't like that.
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  I that idea. Now, if the band finds me, you
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  know, or if I find the band, yeah.
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  But hey, you have to like this pin because they influenced your
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  band. Your favorite band has always
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  rubbed me the wrong way. Anyway, like I all this to say,
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  like I like this band a lot. So we'll take it to the next
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  level here. John, you already mentioned that
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  we kind of had we couldn't take everything.
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  So when you're when you're framing that our, our starting
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  list, what are you looking at? And then when you're trimming
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  down to that, that 20 that you've been gathering over the
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  years, like what are you bringing to the table?
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  Well, look, I mean, I would have loved to have been able to to
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  put all of land speed record and all that, but it just mean,
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  let's be honest, it just wasn't going to happen.
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  And then like again, all of Warehouse, which is another
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  double album, 20 songs, like there's just not enough.
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  Like we would have had 125 songs.
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  It just isn't it just isn't going to work.
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  So I tried to do like the the curve, you know, where you have
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  a little bit from the beginning, a little bit at the end and try
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  to get more of the middle. Like the, the part where that we
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  were talking about the 80838485 and Zen Arcade.
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  Like Zen Arcade is maybe my favorite album of all time.
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  It's a concept record about a kid.
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  It gets up, leaves home. Lots of stuff happens to him.
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  There's a 14 minute instrumental feedback track that ends it,
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  which we're not going to throw in here.
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  I didn't make you listen to that.
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  There's some, there's some interstitials, some instrumental
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  stuff in there that I that we that we got rid of.
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  So you didn't get Zen Arcade and it's full glory, but I do
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  recommend listening to Zen Arcade on vinyl at like 2:00 in
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  the morning. It'll, it'll change your life.
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  But it's, it's, we had to get the, the main stuff from Zen
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  Arcade. The New Day Rising.
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  Obviously it's super influential.
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  A lot of great songs on there. Metal Circus, you know, the EP
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  that came before Zen Arcade, a lot of great stuff on there had
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  to include that. So it's just getting the what I
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  thought was the essential start from the beginning and the end
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  and then getting as much as we could from the middle.
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  All right, so that being the the groundwork Christian like again,
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  you're kind of new on it. What are you looking at when
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  you're put plucking out 20 again, this is kind of kind of
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  new to you. You're doing the dive.
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  Yeah. Can I just say what you what you
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  said just in about the more that you've haven't done the the prep
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  for this and thought about it, how this is a band that how did
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  they escape? I feel exactly the same way.
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  It's they're so influential in the music that I love and it it
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  kind of makes me feel a little bit guilty that it's taken until
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  now to actually get into. And same as you, I've absolutely
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  loved this last couple of weeks and I've crammed and it hasn't
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  been a chore. So yeah.
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  OK, so I mentioned that warehouse I had.
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  So that was pretty easy. I knew what I wanted from there,
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  and then I just built up, built up from there because it was,
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  you know, 85% discovery. I had no real feel for pushing
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  for album representation. I was just going to take the
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  songs as they came and just make a note of the ones that sort of
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  struck A chord for me, pardon the pun.
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  But as it happens, I've ended up with a fairly even spread and
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  I've got a little bit of everything, which is, which is
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  great, which I'm really pleased about.
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  And I also, I did a little check.
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  This is one of those bands, isn't it, with dual songwriters.
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  And I've got a fairly even spread of Bob and Grant as well.
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  So it's kind of fallen quite nicely.
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  But yeah, that's how I did. I started from warehouse and
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  worked myself up from there all. Right, so Gavin, a little peek
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  behind the curtain to everybody who who isn't, you know,
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  listening from from like jump street, One of the first things
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  he said like because I told you I was listening to hockey and
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  who's going to do at the same time, you said this was a tough
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  one and I don't know that I've heard you say that.
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  So what was tough about this one and and did you approach it
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  differently because it was tough?
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  I. Mean no.
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  If I approach it differently, it's tough because there's so
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  many good songs. You know, There's just so many
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  good songs and you know, it's one of those ones where you're
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  just, you're like, really, I'm going to cut this song.
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  This feels like totally crazy. You know, I poke it, you know,
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  my, I mean, I love New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig.
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  Like Zen Arcade is like a a totally revered record.
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  And I understand what John's saying.
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  I just always connected with the other two more than Zen Arcade.
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  So we're going to have a little bit of a split there, maybe
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  between us. I counted my afterwards after I
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  picked the songs, I did a count too.
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  I have 7 Grant Hart songs and 13 Mold songs.
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  So more focused on Mold, which I didn't try to do.
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  It just kind of happened naturally, but it wasn't too
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  painful. It's just I thought it was.
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  I think it's going to be a tough episode because there's so many
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  good songs and there's so many places to go, different corners
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  of how they sound like that early speed stuff.
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  It's so great. And there's really dark, dense,
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  there's a lot of dark, dense songs that don't have any oxygen
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  in them. They're just fucking depressing
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  and like intense. And then you get these like
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  patches of like sunlight. And I don't really know where
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  you guys are going to, what corners you're going to
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  gravitate to work. So I think we're in for a rough
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  ride, personally. You know, and four person panels
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  kind of have have worked out that way.
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  I mean, occasionally it, it goes, you know, swimmingly and
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  easy. And, but I, I tend to agree with
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  you. And we'll, we'll get to that
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  next, because it sounds like there's, there's some split in
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  the room just already. Although I will say the things
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  I've matched up with so far is that Zen arcade was my favorite
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  and I didn't even know that that was like the one to to be in on.
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  I really enjoyed new day rising. I really enjoyed flip your wig
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  and I enjoyed the rest. You know, I'm, I'm not saying I
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  didn't, but like after that, like I enjoyed candy apple Gray
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  and warehouse, like for different reasons than the the
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  other ones, the the middle stuff.
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  So like I was like, oh, cool, like I, I like this.
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  You know, I, I'm not quite as even.
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  I did not get down to writing credits other than one song.
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  I looked up to make sure it wasn't a cover, 'cause if it was
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  a cover, I wanted to, I wanted to credit the cover.
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  It was going to make my list anyway, but I'm glad that it
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  ended up not being one. One thing I noted, my first pass
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  was a breeze. I mean, it was a lot of stuff.
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  My second pass was like, OK, like I feel like I can, but kind
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  of what you said, Gavin, like my last handful just felt brutal.
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  Like just am I really dropping this song?
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  Like I can't, I can't believe I'm cutting this from my list.
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  Like just a lot of that towards towards the last couple to get
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  it down to 20. And you know, as always, you
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  know, I'm, I'm listening beforehand wanting to retool,
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  but you know, it's, I don't know that it'll help.
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  So it's like, well, I'm really glad I didn't do it now because
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  it sounds like no matter what we're, I don't know that we're
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  necessarily going to be 4 corners, but I feel like, I feel
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  like we're not all on the same page.
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  So to that point, John, the math on this one is weird because
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  technically speaking, the math should be easy, right?
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  Yeah, I came on here already to be optimistic and, you know,
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  thinking that the the songs were going to were going to stand
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  out. But I'm going to, I'm going to
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  bring it down a notch and I'm going to say 6.
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  OK, Yeah, I like that. I like 6.
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  What do you think, Christian? OK.
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  So I've already sort of given a clue as to what angle I'm coming
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  at this band from and Gavin's already mentioned it.
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  I'm looking for melody. I've I've mentioned coming here
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  from Lemon Heads and you know, we're not talking kind of it's a
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  shame about Ray. Come on, feel Lemon heads.
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  I'm talking about the Ben Daly years, that kind of early punk.
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  But there's still a ton of melody from from the start and
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  all the bands, if I think about all the episodes I've done so
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  far the show, they're all the vast majority of the very
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  melodic bands. So that's where I'm coming from,
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  you know, I'm thinking about influences.
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  Jimmy World is is in my head again, kind of rocking guitars,
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  but melody over the top, you know, so, so I worry about, I
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  worry about John. I'm worrying, I'm worried that
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  I'm going to come at it from a completely different place to
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  John. I'm not as much of A punk as
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  John, but then what Gavin has said is maybe optimistic about
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  maybe matching with him. And I've got 7 Grand Heart songs
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  too, so that was quite interesting to hear.
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  But yeah, overall I think it's going to be tough.
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  So I'm flip flopping between 4:00 or in three, but I think I
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  will take 4 all right. 4 All right, I have 9.
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  Grand Heart songs, for what it's worth.
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  I was not expecting that. I thought you'd be more of a Bob
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  guy, but there we are. I'm into it.
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  All right, so six and four are off the table, Gavin.
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  I'll go 5. Yeah.
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  You know, take the middle, why not?
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  All right, So 65 and 4, my instinct is always trend
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  positive. You guys took all the middle, so
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  7 feels high, but it's the earliest trending positive I can
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  take. So I'm going to take that seven.
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  I'll take that. We can do it.
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  I think we can. I I.
• 22:31
  You know, they definitely have the material to do it.
• 22:34
  The question is, did we all pick the same things?
• 22:37
  And we're about to find out. So we're going to take a quick
• 22:40
  pause and on the other side, we're going to play the game.
• 22:42
  It's the program, Jack. And with that the.
• 22:51
  Name of the game is Deprogram. The four of us have come through
• 22:55
  a selection most of the Husker Do discography and plucked out
• 22:59
  20 songs that are now going to match together in an attempt to
• 23:02
  create a top 10 starter kit for you in case you have never
• 23:06
  listened to Husker Do. Here's.
• 23:09
  Here was one of the biggest things I discovered is usually I
• 23:13
  have a clear cut place I want to start and you know, sometimes
• 23:17
  it's just a song that I really latched onto.
• 23:20
  Sometimes it's track one album 1.
• 23:23
  I didn't find that with this band.
• 23:24
  I, I, I, I found that I enjoyed it all equally.
• 23:28
  You know, as mentioned before, sometimes for different reasons.
• 23:34
  I think I'm going to go with the song I heard on 1st pass and
• 23:38
  knew that it was never going to go away.
• 23:41
  It was never coming off of my list.
• 23:44
  I feel OK about it because when I asked the Internet I got it
• 23:49
  answered back to me at least four times, and it might be more
• 23:54
  now because I haven't checked in an hour.
• 23:57
  How about I apologize? Yeah.
• 24:06
  Oh no, I don't. OK.
• 24:08
  I do. Hey, all right.
• 24:10
  I'll take I'll take a three there.
• 24:12
  A three is a good in a four person panel when we're this
• 24:17
  hesitant about them. Yeah, I knew I was in.
• 24:20
  For it I heard I apologize like, oh, that's that's got to be on
• 24:24
  there has to be all right, we'll take that three and John all
• 24:32
  right, I'm going to start. Off with Zen Arcade?
• 24:34
  How about charter trips? Yes.
• 24:38
  No, yeah, you took, you took. The one I was going to play
• 24:42
  first. Take another and two.
• 24:51
  All right. Christian.
• 24:54
  Oh, you've thrown me now because I.
• 24:55
  Genuinely was going to lead off with Charter trips I and I
• 24:57
  didn't expect it to because like you just did.
• 25:00
  I didn't know where to start and I started with Zen Arcade, but
• 25:04
  not because I knew it was this revered album.
• 25:06
  I didn't know that at the time. It just that's happened to be
• 25:08
  where I started. And that's the first song that
• 25:11
  hit me that I thought, yeah, that's going in.
• 25:13
  So that's thrown me a little bit.
• 25:15
  OK, let's right, let's go to where I started, then where I
• 25:20
  truly started, which is Warehouse and let's go, let's go
• 25:29
  big early. I'm going to go with my favorite
• 25:31
  Husky Do song. Could you be the one?
• 25:38
  No, no, unfortunately. I don't have that one.
• 25:42
  I'll save you, I got it. Good.
• 25:45
  That was another one, another one that was coming up a lot.
• 25:48
  It was one of those painful last handful of ones that came off
• 25:52
  the list. So.
• 25:56
  Yeah, it's. AI think it's.
• 25:59
  It could be a sugar song. I think obviously it's it's late
• 26:02
  Huskadoo, it's last album. It's melodic.
• 26:06
  But yeah, I've that's always been my favorite.
• 26:08
  I could do song of of the one album, obviously, until this
• 26:10
  this this show. All right, it.
• 26:13
  Takes a 2. Which stands a reasonable shot
• 26:17
  at this point. We'll, we'll see how the rest of
• 26:19
  this game goes. All right, Gavin, I'll stay on.
• 26:23
  Warehouse and try to find you Christian.
• 26:25
  I took a deep cut, a grand heart song called Actual Condition.
• 26:31
  Got it. No, you don't.
• 26:37
  No, you didn't find me all. Right, I will say that was on my
• 26:45
  first pass. It wasn't part of that laced
• 26:48
  late headaches, but into the bin.
• 26:54
  All right, I'm going to trot out a Zenargate or Zen arcade.
• 26:59
  I can talk Zen arcade track that I found interesting because I
• 27:05
  know that this is kind of running parallel to to new wave
• 27:09
  and it it gave me new wave as close to new wave vibes as who's
• 27:14
  going to do is going to give me anyway, which I thought was
• 27:17
  interesting. How about newest industry?
• 27:21
  Yeah, yeah, I got it. I'm.
• 27:26
  Glad that you found one of the ones that I didn't take, but I
• 27:28
  love that song. All right, we'll take a three
• 27:30
  there. Boom and boom.
• 27:34
  That here 123 we don't have. Time to talk about the whole
• 27:40
  story of Zen Arcade. With every song that comes up,
• 27:42
  even though I want to. But that's like when he the the
• 27:46
  kid, like, finds it's near the end of the album.
• 27:48
  He finds like a real job that he's working for.
• 27:51
  Like it's he follows this whole story of this kid.
• 27:53
  It's amazing. Yeah.
• 27:55
  It's it's. It's one of the first things
• 27:57
  that somebody said when I asked was that somebody said Zen
• 28:01
  Arcade is a concept album. And I was like, oh man, I
• 28:05
  clearly need some more listens because I didn't catch that.
• 28:08
  I mean, no, yeah, I didn't give you the whole.
• 28:10
  Thing if I, if we, you know, if we sit down and do the whole
• 28:13
  thing front to back, then you'll get it so.
• 28:16
  I'll have to I'll have to give Zen Arcade a a real go.
• 28:22
  All right, so let's see. Newest industry was me John.
• 28:28
  All right. I swear I'm not going to talk
• 28:29
  about the story the whole time, but I do want to mention this is
• 28:32
  the first song on Zen Arcade where the the kid has an
• 28:36
  awakening, realizes that everything in the world is not
• 28:39
  as it seems, not as it was promised, and it starts him on
• 28:42
  this journey that will take him throughout this whole album.
• 28:46
  It has one of the best intros of any track, one of all time.
• 28:50
  Something I learned today. I got it.
• 28:52
  Hell yeah. No, I don't got it.
• 28:57
  That was the first. Rooster song I ever heard.
• 29:00
  Love guys. That is one that I got again.
• 29:06
  It's still going, so who knows how many people have answered it
• 29:09
  since we started talking, but at last check 3.
• 29:14
  Good job people. Something.
• 29:17
  I learned today we'll take a three there I hate.
• 29:20
  Being a spoiler. I.
• 29:23
  I wouldn't worry about it. I feel like it's going to be a
• 29:25
  lot of that today, Christian. I think we're we're looking at a
• 29:28
  lot of people being the spoiler. So yeah, right, Christian,
• 29:34
  you're up. Hey.
• 29:38
  I'm going to move on to New Day Rising and I'm going to pick a
• 29:43
  song that sums up what I'm looking for in Huskadoo, which
• 29:47
  is fast punk but but melody and good major minor chords.
• 29:55
  Uh, celebrated summer. Yeah, Hell yeah.
• 29:57
  I got it. Maybe the best who's?
• 30:00
  Curdu song, Yeah, maybe my. Favorite Who's curdu song
• 30:04
  interesting. Awesome when I saw Bob.
• 30:07
  Old solo a few years ago. He played it and it was
• 30:10
  transcendent. Yeah, yeah, I really like that
• 30:13
  song. And this is this is this.
• 30:15
  Would be the last time I mentioned.
• 30:17
  I promise this will be the last time I mentioned the Lemonheads
• 30:19
  because this isn't about the Lemonheads, but that that was
• 30:23
  where I could see that kind of influence, that kind of, you
• 30:27
  know, fast, melodic thing. So loved it.
• 30:30
  Yeah. That was a.
• 30:32
  Soundtrack to our youth where you're kind of self
• 30:34
  mythologizing as you're living it, you know, it was like and
• 30:38
  that that acoustic. Guitar break is so good too,
• 30:40
  yeah. What's funny is.
• 30:46
  I mean. Obviously I had it on my list
• 30:48
  and I really liked it, but hearing possibly best is
• 30:53
  interesting and that one being the one to break the ice is
• 30:55
  interesting to me. I don't know, like I I didn't
• 30:58
  have it as high on my list. So it very clearly I need to
• 31:01
  give it a couple more listens, but I mean, it's, it's in so
• 31:04
  like nothing to complain about, but.
• 31:07
  I just whenever. I hear things like that it, it
• 31:10
  interests, it's intrigues me. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:13
  When they come right back in after the break, after that
• 31:16
  breakdown, it's just so fucking good, all right?
• 31:21
  Celebrated summer is in boom. We got 1 fellas already marked
• 31:28
  it there. All right, Kevin.
• 31:31
  I like when they get. Weird and kind of step off their
• 31:33
  path and do something unusual. So I took books about UFOs.
• 31:38
  Oh man. You did Rising.
• 31:41
  I love that, but no. That one was on my first.
• 31:47
  Pass. I guess you're on your own
• 31:49
  again, yeah? Nope, I've got it.
• 31:51
  Oh oh. No, I've I've.
• 31:54
  Got it too. Oh I I hated that song at first.
• 31:59
  I thought it was, I thought it was kitsch, I thought it was
• 32:02
  cheesy, and then I kept singing it to myself.
• 32:09
  I went from the bin. To a three.
• 32:10
  That was awesome, yeah. See there I am.
• 32:14
  The spoiler Christian See it's. It's the, I don't know, It's
• 32:19
  yeah, it's catchy. It's got a swing.
• 32:21
  It feels like, it feels like you should do the Carlton dance to
• 32:25
  it. Yeah, But the way, I don't know.
• 32:29
  But I do think the way that Grant Hart sings it, it's just
• 32:32
  got enough of a kind of a well, he's kind of, he's kind of
• 32:36
  reaching for the. No, no, you know he's reaching
• 32:40
  for it. And it it gives it enough of a
• 32:42
  of an edge to make it kind of cool.
• 32:45
  I don't know what it is. There's piano.
• 32:46
  Piano in there so good too. It's good and.
• 32:49
  You know, back then you listen to whole records all the way
• 32:51
  through, so it was nice to get a change up thrown.
• 32:54
  You know what I mean? A change up pitch thrown in the
• 32:56
  middle of the record. It's it's catchy as hell.
• 33:01
  I couldn't tell you. Why?
• 33:02
  I dropped it. I I know I had it on my first
• 33:05
  pass and again, what is that saying?
• 33:07
  Because I think that was like 40 something songs, but like it, it
• 33:12
  wasn't in that last handful to go, but it it was on that first
• 33:16
  pass, so. All right.
• 33:21
  I'll try out a metal circus thing because here's something
• 33:25
  that happened I think I had initially.
• 33:31
  I had to make. Technically my second cuts after
• 33:35
  Metal Circus because I think I had everything through Metal
• 33:38
  Circus initially so when I got to Zen Arcade I was like no no,
• 33:43
  no, no, I need to make some cuts here 1st and then then we'll
• 33:46
  move on to the next record. So I'll try out something from
• 33:50
  Metal Circus. How about it's not funny
• 33:52
  anymore? My.
• 33:54
  Favorite song on Metal Circus? Yeah.
• 33:59
  No, I don't have it. I.
• 34:00
  Got it all. Right, Justin, if you remember
• 34:02
  the Lifetime episode, this is the one that Lifetime covered.
• 34:05
  Oh yeah. On their.
• 34:07
  Album. Yeah, I have it.
• 34:09
  I wonder. If that kind of put it on my
• 34:11
  radar. Accidentally.
• 34:14
  But hell yeah, I'll take a three there.
• 34:18
  Boom. It's not funny more.
• 34:21
  All right, John all. Right.
• 34:25
  Contrary to what may be the popular opinion, I did take some
• 34:29
  songs that were not on Zen Arcade, so let's try one of
• 34:33
  those. I'm going to do another grant
• 34:36
  art song. How about Sorry somehow?
• 34:38
  Yeah. No, yeah, I haven't really.
• 34:43
  That's. Surprising.
• 34:44
  Yeah, I know. The great song.
• 34:48
  I'd be happy if that got in and at this.
• 34:51
  At this rate, it might just based on being a three, because
• 34:56
  yeah, Christian, you said you did.
• 34:57
  Have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:00
  OK. Boom and.
• 35:02
  Boom. All right.
• 35:06
  Sorry, somehow is it 3 Christian?
• 35:10
  OK, let's go to a super early one, which?
• 35:20
  It's surprisingly. Melodic from I thought at the
• 35:23
  beginning I didn't catch it the first time and then after the
• 35:27
  second listen, I love this song. It's one of my favourites
• 35:29
  actually, that I've picked up in a Freeland.
• 35:33
  Yeah, I got it. No.
• 35:37
  No, OK. We'll take a 2.
• 35:39
  There. The.
• 35:41
  Twos are now officially entering.
• 35:46
  Tough. A tough area because we've got a
• 35:49
  bunch of these threes, but as of right now, it would be we would
• 35:56
  take the threes and then there would be a conversation between
• 35:58
  the two twos. Still plenty of gameplay.
• 36:00
  I don't know why I'm working that out right now, but I'm just
• 36:03
  saying that until just now, the twos were available.
• 36:07
  All right, Gavin. Let's break ground.
• 36:11
  On flip your wig, I'm going to take I took a divide and
• 36:14
  conquer. Fuck yeah.
• 36:20
  No, Nope. What?
• 36:24
  That's. Wild that's.
• 36:28
  Wild. And as as a matter of fact, I'm
• 36:30
  going to answer. I'm going to answer with a Flip
• 36:33
  Your Wig song too because it makes no sense at all.
• 36:37
  Yeah, hell yeah, I do have that one, Yes, and I do have that
• 36:44
  one. Yeah, yeah, that one.
• 36:45
  Felt like it should have been a Homer.
• 36:48
  Maybe my favorite. Husker song.
• 36:50
  Really. Yeah, I really love that song.
• 36:53
  I mean, it's like, it's also, you know, it's not a secret.
• 36:56
  I've talked on the show before about having a lot of drug
• 36:59
  problems when I was a kid, and it's like, it's such a great
• 37:02
  like. Different than my drug.
• 37:05
  Buddy John, it's such a great, like conversation in that band
• 37:11
  between mold and heart, like about heroin and Dick Strand.
• 37:15
  It just, it just meant it was a special song for me when I was a
• 37:19
  kid and, like, really made a crucial sort of like impression
• 37:24
  on me. Yeah, but it's also fucking
• 37:26
  anger pop song, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
• 37:29
  But and it. Didn't they?
• 37:31
  There's a version where they add on the Mary Tyler Moore theme
• 37:34
  that love us all around. In the video.
• 37:37
  Where they're like just happily walking down the streets of
• 37:39
  Minneapolis, just like, it's hilarious.
• 37:43
  This. Is this is listening?
• 37:44
  To it in the in the cans. I know you guys can't hear it,
• 37:47
  but listening this is a good time.
• 37:50
  I I meant to bring this up before there's times in this cat
• 37:54
  catalog where Husker do feels like a heavier R.E.M.
• 38:00
  Like they're writing these catchy jams that like could
• 38:05
  have. Snuck on.
• 38:05
  To, you know, like if they put out a split in in that time
• 38:10
  frame, I'd be like, OK, yeah, that makes sense.
• 38:12
  But I mean, there was. Some.
• 38:15
  Does that mean workbook? Is his automatic for the people
• 38:18
  or we? Yeah.
• 38:19
  And then copper. Blue is monster and then like
• 38:22
  attracts. Actually, yeah.
• 38:25
  What's the connection between them, John?
• 38:27
  I'm. I'm forgetting like either like
• 38:29
  a mutual appreciation in the press or like they they they may
• 38:33
  have are you had history open for them or something or like
• 38:37
  can't remember. I think yeah, they always.
• 38:38
  Took Peter Buck always talked to Pisker do as one of his favorite
• 38:41
  fans. Yeah, OK.
• 38:43
  All right, well, boom, just like that we are at 2 and makes no
• 38:47
  sense at all was me so John. OK.
• 38:53
  This is 1 and you know, everyone in their grandmother is emo now
• 38:58
  and that it's a term that doesn't really mean anything
• 39:01
  anymore, but it used to mean something and it it started, you
• 39:06
  know, a lot of people, you know, you trace it back to, you know,
• 39:09
  the DC stuff. Revolution Summer Embrace and
• 39:12
  Rights of Spring is like where a lot of that stuff came out.
• 39:14
  It's like this emotional hardcore that it came out of.
• 39:18
  And Husker du Zen Arcade even predates that that stuff by a
• 39:23
  year. A lot of that stuff came out in
• 39:24
  8586. And I think there's a song on
• 39:28
  Zen Arcade that is the first emotional hardcore song I think
• 39:33
  ever. So you can trace it back to
• 39:35
  this. And it's he's he's screaming in
• 39:38
  this is I Will Never Forget You. Just it's on on Zen Arcade.
• 39:46
  It's right in the middle. Let's go with I will Never
• 39:49
  Forget you. I don't have it.
• 39:53
  It's a. Great song.
• 39:55
  I feel like that was. One of my last few cuts
• 39:58
  unfortunately. Yeah, I can't save.
• 40:02
  It, I'm afraid. Oh, OK.
• 40:06
  The scream in there is so. Good.
• 40:07
  That's that's classic mold scream.
• 40:10
  Totally. All right, boom.
• 40:12
  Unfortunately, to the benet goes.
• 40:15
  Christian OK, I'm going to go back to Warehouse and I'm going
• 40:25
  to pick a grand tart song. Super catchy, super melodic and
• 40:32
  I love it. Halfway through it goes to half
• 40:35
  time and that that bit's great. Back from somewhere?
• 40:39
  No. What's it called back from
• 40:47
  somewhere? No.
• 40:53
  All right, back from strong wire, unfortunately been on the
• 41:01
  half that I didn't get. Yeah, so unfortunately.
• 41:06
  You were. You were never going to get me
• 41:09
  on that one, Christian, Unfortunately.
• 41:12
  All right, boom. Into the bin.
• 41:16
  Unfortunately. All right, Gavin.
• 41:21
  I took everything falls. Apart fucking rips no good.
• 41:25
  Oh. That was one of the ones.
• 41:28
  I was trying to find a place for before we went on.
• 41:33
  I got it. Now we'll. 2nd the rippingness
• 41:35
  of it, yeah. I mean as I.
• 41:38
  Mean. I had.
• 41:41
  Like everything up through Metal Circus initially, so I.
• 41:46
  Liked it? It was a late.
• 41:47
  Cut for me though, OK? Right, a good couple of twos
• 41:54
  here, but I think their time is numbered.
• 41:58
  We'll see. We've still got a good couple
• 42:00
  rounds left in US, I think. All right, I got this one a
• 42:11
  couple times, answered and. It was.
• 42:17
  Kind of initially going to be on my my chopping block and then
• 42:21
  like I'd let it play. And then the second time I
• 42:24
  listened to it, this is the song that I thought may have been a
• 42:26
  cover. And I was like, well, let me
• 42:28
  make sure. It's not like, let's see if
• 42:30
  that's a reason. How about turn on the news?
• 42:35
  No, that's a wild song. Yeah, no, I love.
• 42:41
  It but no. No, I don't have it.
• 42:47
  Bend. All right.
• 42:51
  Is is, I think this is the one. I'm not sure if I've got the
• 42:57
  right song here, but one of the songs John will be able to
• 43:01
  probably confirm or deny. One of the songs reminded me of
• 43:05
  the bit there's a song in School of Rock, which one that the kid
• 43:11
  guitarist writes. I kind of goes step off, step
• 43:15
  off, and I thought it was this song that had a similar kind of
• 43:19
  feel to it. Turn on.
• 43:22
  Turn on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:24
  Yeah, that that kept on going in my parade and it really put me
• 43:28
  off. I'll tell you.
• 43:31
  Like part of it, we just recently did the hold study and
• 43:37
  there was definitely times where this band reminded me of them.
• 43:43
  And oh, he, he named he. Name checks them all the time.
• 43:46
  Like who's could do they started in Saint Paul makes no sense at
• 43:50
  all. Like, yeah, there's, there's
• 43:52
  tons of references, yeah. So I I feel like that may have
• 43:56
  been played a part in that song for me.
• 43:58
  I think all right in the Benet Goes and John.
• 44:05
  Now I want to go with another one that the whole study
• 44:07
  reference, but I'm going to save it because I want to talk about
• 44:12
  this song. I don't know if you guys ever
• 44:13
  watched the TV show Halt and Catch Fire.
• 44:16
  It was one of those AMC shows like post Breaking Bad, but it's
• 44:22
  the story of like these, this group of people around the the
• 44:25
  personal computer revolution in the late 70s, early 80s.
• 44:29
  And the music in that show is incredible.
• 44:32
  And there's a there's a scene early on where one of the main
• 44:36
  characters is goes outside and it's like raining at night and
• 44:41
  she puts on headphones and this song drops on the show.
• 44:46
  And I literally fell off the couch when I was watching
• 44:49
  because I could not believe that this was happening.
• 44:52
  But the song is pink turns to blue I got.
• 44:56
  It. I don't have it, but I love that
• 45:00
  song. It's another drug song, I think,
• 45:02
  right? It's great.
• 45:03
  I think it's, yeah, it's in the story.
• 45:05
  Where is the partner? Whoever dies like overdoses?
• 45:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:10
  I loved it and I have it all right, we'll.
• 45:13
  Take another 3 here. Oh.
• 45:16
  Is that a three? Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 45:20
  Yep, that's a great song. Right, because I.
• 45:26
  Want to be clear, because maybe I maybe I zoned out for a
• 45:30
  second. You don't have it right, Gavin.
• 45:33
  Right. Right.
• 45:33
  OK, I'm making sure I heard correctly.
• 45:35
  All right. So yes, I I wasn't.
• 45:37
  Sure you had it. Just yes, all three of us.
• 45:39
  Do the other three do? See Gavin playing the spoiler?
• 45:43
  See. Like we're all taking our turns
• 45:45
  here. All right.
• 45:48
  Christian. I.
• 45:51
  Was going to play pink to the blue so move to my next one.
• 45:57
  OK I wasn't sure about this song when I first heard it.
• 45:59
  First couple of times and the production has kind of Bob sound
• 46:04
  like he's singing it through a watering can.
• 46:08
  You can barely. Understand, I mean at the best
• 46:11
  of times, but this one particularly particularly.
• 46:15
  But again, like books about UFOs.
• 46:19
  I then catch myself like walking around singing the hook.
• 46:25
  So it goes. Which if you couldn't make that
• 46:33
  out, is 59 times the pain. Oh.
• 46:36
  That was my last cut, man Brave song.
• 46:41
  Yeah. No, I don't have it.
• 46:42
  No, we. Even got the 11th and everything
• 46:46
  it inspired. A Swedish hardcore band, though
• 46:48
  they took their band name from that song.
• 46:50
  No way. I like, I like the way that it
• 46:52
  kind of, as I say, you've got that really.
• 46:56
  Hooky hook but. Then I like the way it kind of
• 46:58
  speeds up into the chorus. That that's really.
• 47:01
  Cool. It kind of it's kind of a sort
• 47:03
  of a mid to fast tempo. Then it gradually speeds up as
• 47:07
  it goes into the into that chorus line.
• 47:10
  So I really like that, but nevermind.
• 47:14
  Gavin. Well, I've said this.
• 47:17
  This is the third time I'm saying this, but maybe my
• 47:20
  favorite. Who's Purdue song and such an
• 47:23
  incredible pop song. Like what if The Beach Boys were
• 47:26
  a hardcore band? Do you guys have flip your wig?
• 47:29
  I'll flip your wig. No, that bums me out.
• 47:39
  Yeah, I just didn't have. Room for it, really.
• 47:42
  Same. It was so close, it was such a
• 47:44
  late cut. Well, now I'm OK.
• 47:45
  Wishing I would have booster pingle.
• 47:47
  It's elsewhere. Programmed episode Flip your wig
• 47:50
  in the bin, Yeah. That's fucking.
• 47:53
  Crazy, I mean. Unfortunately, that's the game
• 47:57
  eight they have. 49 Classic songs What Do You Want Me?
• 48:04
  To do. I thought for sure, I'll say
• 48:06
  this to that point, Gavin, I thought for sure on 1st pass
• 48:09
  flip of your wig was going to make my make my list.
• 48:12
  I thought there was no way it's out and then I get to like 28
• 48:18
  and I'm like, well, what the fuck goes?
• 48:21
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I feel like the guy on the
• 48:23
  Pearl Jam Championship where he where like Jeremy got banned and
• 48:28
  he fucking right, Right. Dude, I can't.
• 48:33
  Believe that? That's a fucking hot take.
• 48:35
  That's crazy. Unfortunate, unfortunate.
• 48:40
  All right, more back around to me.
• 48:46
  This one I. Got a lot of and we haven't
• 48:49
  gotten there yet. So I might.
• 48:51
  As well test the waters with it. How about don't want to know if
• 48:56
  you're lonely? They'll have it.
• 48:59
  Great song. Yeah, I have it.
• 49:07
  I have it as well. Actually, Green Day did a cover
• 49:11
  of this when they did an MTV thing around the the 19992000.
• 49:19
  MTV was having these bands coming to do covers and Green
• 49:23
  Day came in and did don't want to know if you're lonely and it
• 49:25
  ended up on a on a record store Day 7.
• 49:27
  It's very good. But yeah, I love that song.
• 49:31
  All right, boom. Take a yet another three and I
• 49:36
  think those twos officially just hit the bin.
• 49:41
  I think so. All right, John.
• 49:45
  OK, man. So.
• 49:49
  Many good songs left. What am I going to do?
• 49:52
  All right, this one. I'm going to do another Grand
• 49:56
  Hart song, Standing By the Sea. No, no, it, it was my last cut.
• 50:08
  It was it. It was in.
• 50:11
  It was in. And I.
• 50:11
  Dropped it. It's 21.
• 50:14
  Welcome. To the.
• 50:16
  Show, yeah. I don't know.
• 50:19
  Where it dropped out, I'm presuming by my gutter over
• 50:25
  reaction, it was one of those last handful.
• 50:30
  But it was. For sure, again, a song I heard
• 50:34
  the first time, I was like for sure that's going in and then
• 50:38
  just you get to a point that based on.
• 50:40
  That like, pulses throughout the whole song.
• 50:44
  And like, you'll indulge me. This is like the part of the
• 50:47
  story where the kids, like, find himself alone.
• 50:49
  It's like it turns kind of from the from the record turns from
• 50:54
  like being more straightforward, like hardcore songs.
• 50:57
  And you're getting a little weirder and like he's, you know,
• 51:01
  that was the kid is like standing at the ocean, like he's
• 51:03
  having sex. Central crisis.
• 51:06
  I really think this is like a classic important song but mom
• 51:10
  alone. Just like the.
• 51:11
  Kid standing in the sea So. Yeah, like.
• 51:14
  They're they're homage to Quadrophenia, you know, Right.
• 51:18
  Oh. Totally, totally, all right.
• 51:21
  Unfortunately, into the bin it goes, Christian.
• 51:28
  OK, I'm going to pick a song. It feels like a bit of a deep
• 51:32
  cut so I'm not sure about it, but I'll give it a try anyway.
• 51:37
  Something that a lot of. Emo bands do is.
• 51:40
  Kind of a little bit of. Call and answer where the two
• 51:42
  vocalists kind of both sing and they don't do this a lot.
• 51:47
  You know, Grant sends to sing Grant songs and Bob tends to
• 51:50
  sing Bob songs. But if I remember rightly, Grant
• 51:53
  sings this, but then Bob comes in with a kind of a whoa if I
• 52:00
  told you no. No, no, I wish I could save.
• 52:06
  You because that's a great song, but no, it felt.
• 52:09
  It felt. Like a deep, it felt like a deep
• 52:11
  cut, but it kind of it one of those that snuck up on me to it.
• 52:16
  In fact, that might have been the one, sorry John, that pushed
• 52:18
  out standing by the sea. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:25
  Boom and boom, Gavin, I'm taking a grant.
• 52:30
  Heart Stormer, you guys have the girl who lives on Heaven Hill,
• 52:33
  Yes. I do.
• 52:38
  Yes, I do. Yeah, that's the other one.
• 52:41
  The whole study references in in one of their songs.
• 52:44
  Yeah. Girl who lives on Heaven Hill.
• 52:47
  That's cool. I don't.
• 52:51
  Know that I saw that one coming as a unanimous as much as I like
• 52:55
  it. I mean, it's just so.
• 52:58
  Interesting the way like. It I don't know.
• 53:02
  It just says something about this game like you never know,
• 53:07
  Yeah. But I, I.
• 53:09
  I say that, but this was never coming off of my list.
• 53:12
  Like, it was never in. It was never in trouble.
• 53:15
  Like, yeah. I heard it the first time.
• 53:18
  And I was like, yeah, it's yeah. It's not, it's not one of my
• 53:23
  favourites, but it was never in danger either.
• 53:26
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:27
  So I mean, you know, clearly all four of us kind of had had that.
• 53:32
  So boom. All right, just like that up to
• 53:38
  three and I think I'm down to six so.
• 53:43
  I think maybe. Let me count real quick and then
• 53:47
  we'll make our decision on dump outs from there. 123456 no 1234
• 54:02
  five. Yeah, this feels like I'm in
• 54:04
  the. Discord right now we're
• 54:05
  counting. Yes, six.
• 54:08
  I've got 6, so maybe we do two more rounds and then dump out.
• 54:14
  Cool if I was going to do Heaven Hill here so.
• 54:24
  I'll try the other one. How about every everything?
• 54:28
  No. No, yeah, I like.
• 54:33
  I liked it, but no into the. Into the bin.
• 54:38
  All right, John, All right. One that my.
• 54:45
  Band used to cover New Day Rising.
• 54:48
  Fuck yeah. I'm glad there's more than.
• 54:51
  One for sure, I don't have it. No, I didn't have it.
• 54:58
  Wow. That's the song you.
• 55:00
  Put on when you wake up in the morning.
• 55:02
  Yeah, for real. The tone, yeah.
• 55:07
  Yeah, that definitely made my first pass.
• 55:09
  I couldn't tell you where it dropped out.
• 55:11
  It wasn't in that painful handful, but it was.
• 55:15
  What a great opener. I I'll bet.
• 55:18
  You anything I. You know I.
• 55:22
  Didn't do it on purpose, but sometimes when I'm playing I'll
• 55:24
  cut openers just because I tend to have openers.
• 55:29
  So maybe that was what it was there.
• 55:34
  All right, Christian. OK, the vibes I'm getting about
• 55:41
  warehouse, the way that everybody's talking about the
• 55:44
  three in the middle, then flippy Wing and New Day rising makes me
• 55:52
  worry about going back to warehouse.
• 55:54
  But I've got a few from warehouse, so I'm going to have
• 55:56
  to play one. Hopefully I can find something
• 55:59
  on there. What about, and this is quite
• 56:04
  appropriate today because we don't get snow very much where I
• 56:07
  live and we had a dump of snow this morning.
• 56:09
  So what about ice? Cold ice?
• 56:11
  No, I don't. Have that No, yeah, I.
• 56:18
  I wanted to find room for it. It was probably 21 or 22.
• 56:22
  I'll see. This kind of tell John's point
• 56:25
  there. I got that answer a lot.
• 56:29
  A lot of people said ice, cold ice and then it.
• 56:32
  Does the thing as well that I just talked about on the last
• 56:33
  one about the call and answer Bob goes and then ice cold ice
• 56:42
  yeah, OK, well we're. All finding a little bit of
• 56:46
  disappointment today. It feels all right, Gavin, all
• 56:51
  right. Here we go.
• 56:51
  We're going to get 4 right here. Another heart classic.
• 56:54
  You guys have green eyes? I'll flip your wig.
• 56:58
  Oh, such a like. What?
• 57:02
  Green eyes. Into.
• 57:06
  I can't I. Can't save you?
• 57:07
  Oh. Fucking madness.
• 57:12
  I agree. I agree.
• 57:15
  That was a super. Late cut.
• 57:17
  And again, it's one of those ones where because I was getting
• 57:20
  that answer so much that I almost went back to try to find
• 57:23
  room for it, but I asked the Internet a little too late.
• 57:27
  Had I asked yesterday, I probably could have found room
• 57:29
  for it. But hope you guys.
• 57:32
  Prepared for a riot in Minneapolis?
• 57:37
  All right. Well.
• 57:40
  I think I still have 5 so we'll. 1st Ave. to the.
• 57:44
  Ground. Yeah, we'll do.
• 57:46
  Yeah. Well, it's not on.
• 57:48
  We'll do. One last round here.
• 57:51
  I'll. I'll try out a warehouse song
• 57:53
  here, see if I can find you a Christian.
• 57:56
  Probably be the one that you don't have.
• 57:58
  How about these important years? Yeah.
• 58:02
  Hey, yeah, hey, no. No, OK.
• 58:07
  Take a three there. That's AI feel like that's a a
• 58:11
  really good three to get. Yeah.
• 58:15
  Great song. All right.
• 58:18
  John. All right.
• 58:21
  This one is, I'm going to go back to Metal Circus.
• 58:25
  This is a really dark song lyrically for them.
• 58:29
  I believe it is about a rape that occurred, trigger warnings,
• 58:35
  all that. But it's let's go with Diane.
• 58:40
  I wanted to go back. And make space for that one too.
• 58:45
  I don't cut it. I I don't have John, but I
• 58:50
  remember that like that that song got wrote about a lot
• 58:54
  because it it's a heart song and it was kind of the first.
• 58:58
  I don't know, like they're doing something there.
• 59:00
  It's rudimentary, but like they'll do more of that.
• 59:04
  It's kind of like perfect circle for R.E.M.
• 59:06
  When we were talking about that, like I'm getting, they're
• 59:10
  showing you they can do something different on that
• 59:12
  song. You know, it's an important song
• 59:14
  for them. I wish I had to, yeah.
• 59:18
  I was going to play it. Next, John so I have it Oh cool.
• 59:21
  That's and it's. Yeah, it stands out.
• 59:25
  Because all the songs on Metal Circus are like 2 minutes and
• 59:28
  that's like 4 1/2. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:34
  To be, you know, transparent. We got that one a lot as an
• 59:40
  answer as well. So I mean, I just couldn't make
• 59:44
  the space for it. Didn't didn't give myself enough
• 59:46
  time to make the space for it. I guess is the better way to
• 59:49
  phrase that. All right, Christian.
• 59:53
  OK, I'm going to move. Back away from Warehouse, go to.
• 59:57
  I don't think I've played anything from Flippy Wig yet, so
• 1:00:01
  I have one left from the album Games.
• 1:00:05
  No, no, no. OK.
• 1:00:14
  No, that's the appropriate response.
• 1:00:15
  OK. Yeah, All right.
• 1:00:18
  I mean, you know, I. Played it in the last round so
• 1:00:21
  I'm fine with that all. Right, Gavin?
• 1:00:25
  Well, this won't be. Unanimous then, but let's see if
• 1:00:27
  I can get a three on Hate paper doll.
• 1:00:29
  I'll flip your wig. Oh God.
• 1:00:31
  Damn it. No, I can.
• 1:00:36
  Save you I. Got it, John, I was going to.
• 1:00:39
  Be like what? Oh.
• 1:00:44
  That was one of the few songs I didn't actually like, sorry.
• 1:00:48
  Oh, I. Always thought it was a heart
• 1:00:49
  song but it's a bold song. Great song, paper doll.
• 1:00:55
  Well, I mean. As always, I don't really have a
• 1:00:57
  reason for cutting it. It was on my first pass.
• 1:01:00
  It was in that. That handful?
• 1:01:04
  If it wasn't like in that handful of the last eight, it
• 1:01:07
  was just before I got to that point.
• 1:01:10
  So that's why it was pretty memorable.
• 1:01:14
  Again, a song I thought for sure was going to make my list first
• 1:01:17
  time I heard it. And then when I got back around
• 1:01:19
  to it, I was like, well, something's got to go away.
• 1:01:23
  All right, let me start at the top here and dump out.
• 1:01:28
  I did the thing, even though we don't need to do the thing with
• 1:01:31
  this band. Statues.
• 1:01:35
  I love that song. I don't have it.
• 1:01:39
  Yeah, I get that. That's when they're like.
• 1:01:42
  Really into their postponed, you know, the record collection, You
• 1:01:45
  know what I mean? I had a feeling that was going
• 1:01:48
  to be a binner especially. Yeah, All right.
• 1:01:53
  How about Target? Are you?
• 1:02:00
  No. Oh, yeah, right.
• 1:02:01
  I don't have that. Everything falls apart, OK.
• 1:02:05
  That was. That was my second or the last
• 1:02:07
  cut. I really like that song all.
• 1:02:11
  Right. And then this one got out of
• 1:02:15
  order. Metal Circus.
• 1:02:16
  Real world. Banger don't have it.
• 1:02:22
  Yeah, no all. Right.
• 1:02:23
  No. Me neither.
• 1:02:24
  And then last but not least, funnily enough, first of the
• 1:02:28
  last calls. No, Nope.
• 1:02:33
  If we'd had. If we'd had. 25 maybe, but that
• 1:02:36
  so get that first last cause love it.
• 1:02:39
  But you know what's that on? Metal Circus.
• 1:02:43
  Yeah, right. You know what's crazy is I I
• 1:02:47
  saved almost all of my binners for last.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah. So.
• 1:02:53
  What did we? Do there three I think, yeah.
• 1:02:56
  So yeah. None of us are going to win.
• 1:02:57
  Which is OK. I think we've got plenty of
• 1:03:00
  these threes to work with. I nearly went.
• 1:03:04
  I nearly went three, but I'm glad I didn't because it
• 1:03:06
  wouldn't have felt right for anyone but John to win this.
• 1:03:09
  Yeah. So it's John or nobody.
• 1:03:10
  It kind of went the way I was gonna.
• 1:03:13
  Go yeah, appreciate that. But there's OK, there's a.
• 1:03:17
  Couple chances here to get some more threes here John.
• 1:03:21
  I would have picked standing. By the sea, but no.
• 1:03:25
  No, I, I. Have I only have two left?
• 1:03:28
  They're both from Zen Arcade. It's a broken home, broken
• 1:03:31
  heart, and somewhere no. No, I really.
• 1:03:36
  Liked them somewhere though. That was close, yeah.
• 1:03:40
  I think. Broken home, broken heart was
• 1:03:42
  #21 I think, if I haven't said that, I think that was my
• 1:03:47
  absolute last one. All right.
• 1:03:49
  So is a is a divorce. Stand up.
• 1:03:55
  My parents, that one happened like when I was 20.
• 1:03:58
  I mean, I'm still a child to divorce, but all right,
• 1:04:04
  Christian, you can't get anything in play, but you can
• 1:04:09
  save yourself from some more binners.
• 1:04:12
  I very much doubt that. Justin because they're both off
• 1:04:14
  warehouse. Oh no, it's not peculiar and
• 1:04:20
  turn around. I haven't stopped peculiar.
• 1:04:22
  That's a great song, all right. Cuckoo and what?
• 1:04:26
  Was the other one. Turn it around.
• 1:04:29
  OK, Yeah. That wasn't one I didn't get to
• 1:04:31
  listen to, so same. Here let me mark.
• 1:04:35
  That around, Mark that turn it around.
• 1:04:41
  And Mark? That as a warehouse song.
• 1:04:47
  So you get a 2 at. Least right, and then we will
• 1:04:53
  see what Gavin's got left. Come on.
• 1:04:56
  I took private plane. I'll flip your wig.
• 1:05:00
  And I took. 2 songs off Zen Arcade.
• 1:05:03
  I took Never Talking to You Again, which I totally love that
• 1:05:07
  song, yeah. And I took.
• 1:05:09
  What's going on on Zen Arcade? OK, I thought you were going to
• 1:05:15
  take the baby. Song, but you did it.
• 1:05:21
  I'll tell you, you know, looking at some of the songs that are
• 1:05:24
  left off of Zen Arcade that we didn't play that apparently I'm
• 1:05:28
  I was right to not keep indecision.
• 1:05:30
  Time was really close for me too.
• 1:05:32
  Oh you, you are not right to not.
• 1:05:33
  Take those because they're all very good.
• 1:05:35
  Indecision time. Pride.
• 1:05:37
  Pride is another one. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah, those are really, really. Close for me.
• 1:05:42
  All right, let me shift these around.
• 1:05:44
  We'll go down what we already got and we'll start working on
• 1:05:47
  these threes, eh? Boom and celebrated summer makes
• 1:05:54
  no sense at all. The girl who lives on Heaven
• 1:05:56
  Hill are all already in. That's a tremendous head start.
• 1:06:03
  What do we? Got for threes 12345678910 that
• 1:06:10
  we need to get down to seven all.
• 1:06:13
  Right. So we've got to, I apologize.
• 1:06:15
  Chartered Trips, newest industry, something I learned
• 1:06:19
  today, books about UFOs. It's not funny anymore.
• 1:06:23
  Sorry. Somehow pink turns to blue.
• 1:06:27
  Don't want to know if you were lonely and these important
• 1:06:31
  years. So I'll start with you.
• 1:06:33
  There's a couple of twos I want. To fight for too.
• 1:06:35
  OK, well, we can. Cross those those if, if and or
• 1:06:39
  win. Let's start with these threes
• 1:06:42
  and is there one that's kind of jumping out at you?
• 1:06:45
  There's. 6. But.
• 1:06:50
  I will I will start with pink turns to blue all.
• 1:06:55
  Right. Gavin, you really odd man out on
• 1:06:58
  pink turns to blue. Is there a reason or is it just
• 1:07:01
  it just didn't find you? I love pink turns to blue.
• 1:07:04
  I'm fine with that. I mean, I like the other two
• 1:07:07
  threes better off Zen Arcade. Newest industry and something I
• 1:07:09
  learned today, but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come
• 1:07:11
  to it. I'm OK with pink turns to blue,
• 1:07:13
  all right. Let's grab that.
• 1:07:16
  Bring us up to 4. Now you don't have to.
• 1:07:21
  Take this advice Christian. You were fighting hard to get
• 1:07:26
  things from warehouse. The only thing?
• 1:07:31
  Available. Currently from warehouses these
• 1:07:34
  important years, is album representation important?
• 1:07:39
  Is that something you'd like to make a case for here, or is
• 1:07:41
  there something else kind of jumping out of you?
• 1:07:44
  Well. I've got two different
• 1:07:45
  conversations. If we're talking about that,
• 1:07:49
  then I don't know if it's in play, but like John said, I
• 1:07:53
  would fight harder for could you be the one than these important
• 1:07:59
  years if we're representing Warehouse because I think these.
• 1:08:03
  Important years is good. I had it.
• 1:08:04
  I like it, but I think could you be the one that is well, I said
• 1:08:07
  at the start, it's it's my favorite has to do song, so I
• 1:08:11
  will put that there. But we can park that for a
• 1:08:14
  second. I was just looking at album
• 1:08:16
  representation and we've we've eulogized about Zen Arcade and
• 1:08:19
  until John put forward Pink to the Blue, we didn't have
• 1:08:22
  anything from Zen Arcade. So what I will say at this
• 1:08:25
  juncture and maybe we can circle back around if there's room for
• 1:08:29
  something from warehouse, I will fight for charter trips.
• 1:08:35
  Because I think. That that was the one that that
• 1:08:38
  was the one that stuck out. That was the very first song of
• 1:08:41
  the albums. I didn't know that resonated
• 1:08:44
  with me. I thought, yeah, that's
• 1:08:44
  definitely going on my list. So I think that's it.
• 1:08:47
  All right. Gavin, you're odd, man, there is
• 1:08:51
  that. Yeah, that's.
• 1:08:52
  Fine, all right, boom. All right.
• 1:08:57
  And Gavin is the one jumping out at you.
• 1:09:02
  I mean, I think we should take album representation is
• 1:09:05
  important to me. I think we should take.
• 1:09:09
  One of the early songs like It'd Be cool to take like It's Not
• 1:09:16
  Funny Anymore off Metal Circus. Represent.
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  That. I don't know, yeah.
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  Yeah, over that. Either that or everything falls
• 1:09:26
  apart. Yeah, either of.
• 1:09:27
  Those, yeah, we did. We think falls apart.
• 1:09:30
  We only got a two. I'm fine with either of those,
• 1:09:33
  yeah. Well, I guess so that Diane too,
• 1:09:37
  Diane. Would be awesome to get on
• 1:09:39
  there. So this this.
• 1:09:42
  Is where we start begging the question.
• 1:09:43
  Because we're right now, we're still looking at the threes and
• 1:09:45
  John's. John's already trying to edge
• 1:09:48
  into the twos. Dying to edge I.
• 1:09:51
  Don't know, I don't I'm. Throwing my hands up.
• 1:09:52
  I don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:09:54
  I'm. Just talking, I don't have any
• 1:09:56
  kind of. Ulterior motive at all.
• 1:09:58
  So, Gavin. Gavin's positing, it's not funny
• 1:10:02
  anymore, but is to you, is it more important that it's early
• 1:10:07
  or is is because we have all these threes that are from other
• 1:10:12
  records? Because if, if that's the case,
• 1:10:14
  then we can tackle one of these threes first.
• 1:10:21
  And then because we don't have anything from candy apple yet,
• 1:10:26
  no. But we do.
• 1:10:28
  Have two threes from it so we could tackle that and then it
• 1:10:33
  tackles album representation and then move on and leave the
• 1:10:37
  three-part behind us and focus on just filling out the list.
• 1:10:44
  Does any of that? Make sense?
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, totally. Yeah, you I didn't have anything
• 1:10:50
  off candy apple, so you guys can figure out it's sorry somehow
• 1:10:54
  and don't want to know if you're lonely, right.
• 1:10:55
  I'm fine for you guys for to have that discussion to pick one
• 1:10:59
  of those. I think that's fine.
• 1:11:02
  Both grant songs. Aren't they?
• 1:11:04
  Yeah, but they don't want. To know if you're lonely edges
• 1:11:09
  out by a by a hair I was going. To go the other way.
• 1:11:13
  Oh boy all. Right.
• 1:11:15
  Yeah. But I'm not.
• 1:11:20
  I'm not the. Fan here.
• 1:11:21
  So but for what? It's without a pick.
• 1:11:23
  Sorry, somehow. I mean, you know.
• 1:11:25
  This wouldn't necessarily kill sorry somehow either, like it
• 1:11:29
  would just put it on the back burner with all the other ones
• 1:11:33
  to fill out the list. If if you look.
• 1:11:36
  At it that way. What do you think, Justin?
• 1:11:40
  That's what I'm. Trying to work out here because.
• 1:11:45
  I haven't heard. Your thoughts on album
• 1:11:47
  representation, John? Like you didn't seem enthused.
• 1:11:52
  And I don't know if that was. Because you didn't want to have
• 1:11:54
  to pick between the two. Or if you feel like we're not
• 1:11:56
  there yet. Our.
• 1:11:59
  Representation doesn't matter to me, I just want the best songs,
• 1:12:02
  OK? I feel like.
• 1:12:07
  We have the opportunity. I I hate ignoring the threes in
• 1:12:12
  because three people that chose, you know, I'm not saying we have
• 1:12:19
  to have all threes, but what I am saying is I hate ignoring the
• 1:12:21
  threes because three out of the four people thought it could
• 1:12:25
  make the list. And album representation seems
• 1:12:29
  important to Christian and Gavin.
• 1:12:32
  I'm nonplussed either way. Like I kind of want just the
• 1:12:35
  best songs. Like whatever is going to get,
• 1:12:38
  whatever is going to do the job, whatever is going to get
• 1:12:40
  somebody into Husker do. And judging.
• 1:12:44
  By Christian's experience with the band, I feel like Candy
• 1:12:50
  Apple and and warehouse is more his speed for this band, whereas
• 1:12:54
  I'm I'm firmly in the middle. My personal tastes.
• 1:12:59
  All that to say like if if we're going between those two, I'm
• 1:13:04
  saying a lot of words if we're going between those two.
• 1:13:07
  Eileen don't want to know if you are lonely because that one was
• 1:13:10
  never coming off of my list whereas sorry somehow kind of
• 1:13:14
  elbow elbowed its its way in like it.
• 1:13:19
  I don't want to say. Not by choice, but like it kind
• 1:13:22
  of just didn't go away whereas. Don't want to know is.
• 1:13:26
  Was never in never in trouble that.
• 1:13:30
  That's cool with me and that that sits better with me than
• 1:13:33
  it's. What John wants as.
• 1:13:36
  Well, because John's the fan. So I'm glad.
• 1:13:39
  I'm glad you've gone that way. So I'm it would have been I'm
• 1:13:43
  just coasting. Off reputation here.
• 1:13:45
  I just like come in and just say what I want and it just happens.
• 1:13:48
  That's amazing. No I.
• 1:13:50
  It but it would have felt it would have felt awkward for me
• 1:13:53
  and Justin coming to this band new to kind of railroad one.
• 1:13:57
  Of these over the other, it's. Not it's not strong enough for
• 1:14:00
  me, so I'm more than happy to concede that one all.
• 1:14:04
  Right, so that brings us up to 6 now.
• 1:14:06
  I feel like John, like if we want to start stumping for twos
• 1:14:09
  over some of these threes, I'm, I feel like I'm OK with that at
• 1:14:13
  this point. Yeah.
• 1:14:16
  I like, I like Christian's idea of, of could you be the one over
• 1:14:21
  these important years and then maybe everything falls apart
• 1:14:26
  over it's not funny anymore, even though that's tough.
• 1:14:31
  But everything. Falls apart, and I think that
• 1:14:34
  that'd be good to have something from, you know, the 8182 era,
• 1:14:38
  all right? What do you think about that,
• 1:14:41
  Gavin? Yeah, so we take.
• 1:14:43
  Everything falls apart and we take Could you be the one?
• 1:14:50
  The one, Yeah, yeah. I'm fine with that.
• 1:14:53
  Which I think. I mean, could you be the 1 was
• 1:14:56
  pretty close for me anyway, everything falls apart.
• 1:15:00
  I've already mentioned like I, I had everything in that, that
• 1:15:03
  first run like at at one point. So all right, that brings us up
• 1:15:08
  to 8. I feel like we've got.
• 1:15:12
  A warehouse song now, Christian, We've got an early song.
• 1:15:16
  Yeah, I'm delighted. I'm.
• 1:15:17
  Delighted about could you be the one?
• 1:15:18
  So I'm I'm sated on warehouse. All right, so at this point.
• 1:15:23
  Gavin, is there something that you really want to kind of go to
• 1:15:27
  bat for? Is there like a 2 or?
• 1:15:31
  Yeah, so. Let's see.
• 1:15:35
  So the songs that I think are still out there, I only have 4.
• 1:15:44
  That have made it off my. List, I mean, I think something
• 1:15:47
  I learned today off Zen Arcade is a fucking beast for them.
• 1:15:51
  I I think that's a really important song.
• 1:15:57
  I mean, I would I mean I would argue for stuff in the bin,
• 1:16:03
  which isn't going to happen. So I think I apologize.
• 1:16:07
  Off New Day Rising is really great.
• 1:16:12
  I think. I think hate paper all is a 2 is
• 1:16:16
  important and yeah OK books about UFOs.
• 1:16:22
  Too. Nobody said that, but that
• 1:16:24
  that's that's. A real.
• 1:16:27
  Sorbet in it, that's a real palate cleanser.
• 1:16:30
  One thing I do want to. Say here is I feel like it
• 1:16:35
  really speaks to the the depth of the band that we're at 9 and
• 1:16:40
  I apologize is just now coming up and I feel like any other
• 1:16:45
  band. I I apologize not only gets in
• 1:16:47
  unanimously, but like we don't we're not even having to
• 1:16:50
  question it like somebody would have brought side a of new day.
• 1:16:54
  Rising is one of the best sides of music.
• 1:16:58
  Yeah, period. Like, yeah, we didn't like New
• 1:17:01
  Day Rising. Is it?
• 1:17:02
  Is it too? And like, I came in like I
• 1:17:04
  would. I would love to have that on
• 1:17:06
  there, but I just don't think we're going to have room.
• 1:17:08
  But my my 2 would probably be something I learned today and
• 1:17:17
  and yeah, and I apologize, even though like books about UFOs is
• 1:17:21
  a is a close third. Sorry.
• 1:17:22
  Somehow I love new day rising is incredible.
• 1:17:26
  But something I learned today and I apologize would be the two
• 1:17:30
  that stand out to me. That's where I'm at.
• 1:17:32
  For now. Yeah, we have two left.
• 1:17:34
  We. Will have 8, right, right,
• 1:17:37
  right. Yeah.
• 1:17:39
  If you had 2, if you could pick the two Christian, which two
• 1:17:43
  would they be? Out of everything left.
• 1:17:48
  Yes. Like I said, I'm.
• 1:17:53
  I've I feel like as the as the newbie here my you know, I've
• 1:17:59
  got more than enough in the I would like, but if it's my
• 1:18:05
  opinion is important in this context, I probably go somewhere
• 1:18:09
  completely there. I because I didn't have a Pol.
• 1:18:11
  I didn't have either of those, but I'm fine with, you know,
• 1:18:15
  with both of them. I would probably just for that
• 1:18:19
  kind of left field grant being kitschy, probably like books
• 1:18:24
  about UFOs and I did like in a Freeland, but it's not even in
• 1:18:29
  the conversation at the moment and it is a 2.
• 1:18:31
  So for what it's worth, but do with that information what you
• 1:18:35
  feel I. I have I.
• 1:18:40
  I have to. I I hate to phrase this this way
• 1:18:44
  because you've already said that you're, you're good.
• 1:18:48
  It is. Wild that we are not just rubber
• 1:18:52
  stamping. I apologize.
• 1:18:54
  Yeah. Yeah, So what?
• 1:18:57
  You said. Justin, you got a lot of
• 1:18:58
  responses on threads or whatever it is that you posted on like
• 1:19:02
  which one of these had the most like listener response?
• 1:19:07
  Let's see again. This was last check.
• 1:19:09
  I apologize. Had three something I learned
• 1:19:13
  today had three. Let's see what else is in this
• 1:19:17
  conversation in a Freeland got one.
• 1:19:22
  What's what else are we talking about?
• 1:19:24
  Books about UFOs? I don't think got any.
• 1:19:28
  Sorry, somehow had. 3. OK.
• 1:19:33
  I think everything else we kind of landed everything else that
• 1:19:38
  people were answering. So I'm I'm going ahead and
• 1:19:45
  rubber stamping. I apologize.
• 1:19:46
  I'm. I think it's.
• 1:19:50
  Something I learned today as well.
• 1:19:51
  But like, you know, I'm open. We have.
• 1:19:55
  We have, we have. Three and songs.
• 1:19:59
  Right. Oh, right.
• 1:20:01
  That's right, pink turns to blue and.
• 1:20:04
  Don't want to know if you're lonely?
• 1:20:07
  OK, but. Yeah, I mean, I guess that was
• 1:20:10
  the better question than album representation, right?
• 1:20:13
  Interesting. So let's do.
• 1:20:16
  Something I learned today. Again, Christian already okayed
• 1:20:19
  it, so I don't feel as bad kind of steamrolling him here.
• 1:20:24
  Cool. All right.
• 1:20:25
  Man. Zen Arcade, you got me already?
• 1:20:29
  Yeah. All right, so.
• 1:20:31
  I'll run this down. Celebrated summer makes no sense
• 1:20:34
  at all. The girl who lives on Heaven
• 1:20:36
  Hill. Pink turns the blue Charter
• 1:20:37
  trips. Don't want to know if you are
• 1:20:39
  lonely. Could you be the one?
• 1:20:40
  Everything falls apart. I apologize.
• 1:20:42
  Something I learned today. This feels like another band
• 1:20:47
  here John. Where literally any of those
• 1:20:50
  could be made a case for, right? I think this is the first time
• 1:20:55
  that I've I've literally I have no idea like it could be any of
• 1:20:59
  them. Yeah, I I don't know, my top
• 1:21:09
  celebrated summers right there. Pink turns to blue.
• 1:21:15
  Yeah, I don't know Yeah, throw a dart.
• 1:21:19
  Yeah, it. Very much feels that way, right
• 1:21:22
  Christian? No, not for me.
• 1:21:26
  Oh, interesting. Out of the 10, there's.
• 1:21:29
  There's a there's a stand out. I you know, it's not my favorite
• 1:21:32
  because it was a 2 and I'm grateful that we squeezed it in.
• 1:21:34
  But looking at the particularly the unanimous is celebrated
• 1:21:38
  summer for me all day long. Oh, OK all.
• 1:21:41
  Right. What do you think, Kevin?
• 1:21:44
  Yeah, it'll. Be celebrated.
• 1:21:45
  Summer makes no sense at all for me.
• 1:21:48
  Those are the. Two, I was looking at celebrated
• 1:21:49
  summer. Makes no sense at all.
• 1:21:53
  I, it, it sounds like it should be celebrated Summer.
• 1:21:57
  Yeah, judging by the way that went.
• 1:21:59
  So let's not make it any harder on ourselves, eh?
• 1:22:03
  Let's grab Celebrated summer. I'll get that queued up
• 1:22:06
  underneath us and I'll run it down on Let's Go.
• 1:22:11
  Did you stop? How dare you?
• 1:22:14
  Don't do that. Celebrated summer makes no sense
• 1:22:17
  at all. The girl who lives on Heaven
• 1:22:19
  Hill. Pink turns the blue.
• 1:22:20
  Chartered trips. Don't want to know if you are
• 1:22:22
  lonely. Could you be the one?
• 1:22:24
  Everything falls apart. I apologize.
• 1:22:26
  And something I learned today rounds out our ten.
• 1:22:29
  With that, let's celebrated summer.
• 1:22:32
  Get a moment in the sun. Fuck yeah.
• 1:22:47
  All right. We have done it.
• 1:22:48
  If for some. Chances are you're you're here
• 1:22:53
  because you're already a Husker dude fan.
• 1:22:54
  Chances are if you don't happen to be and you enjoyed this
• 1:22:59
  conversation at all, you're you enjoyed any of the little clips
• 1:23:02
  that I've been playing underneath us.
• 1:23:05
  Do do. Yourself a favor, just listen to
• 1:23:07
  this band, listen to this ten. I guarantee you'll you'll.
• 1:23:12
  This is one of those bands, like John said, like they probably
• 1:23:15
  inspired a band that you like and sometimes it's just good to
• 1:23:20
  touch base with that. So just do it.
• 1:23:23
  This is this is a band I for sure should have divan into a
• 1:23:28
  long ass time ago and just never did it.
• 1:23:31
  Glad for the excuse, very glad for the experience.
• 1:23:34
  So I've done it now you can too, and we are a podcast, so feel
• 1:23:39
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• 1:23:43
  wanted to a couple times here. So.
• 1:23:47
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• 1:23:52
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• 1:23:53
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• 1:23:55
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• 1:23:58
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