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Full Show Podcast: 19 November 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early leadership with r V Supercenter, explore r V successories
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  Speaker 2: They'd be well, good morning to you. No not Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Bridge today, Andrew Dickens has Ryan fills in for Heather
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  Speaker 2: who lost her voice. Now coming up in the next
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  Speaker 2: sixty minutes, Government is spending thirty eight million dollars on
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  Speaker 2: business startup loans to beneficiaries and no one is checking
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  Speaker 2: up on the results. We'll have that story for you
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  Speaker 2: in five. Apparently over half of apprentice students don't finish
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  Speaker 2: their training, so what's causing them to quit?
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  Speaker 3: We'll have that story. In ten.
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  Speaker 2: Authors are getting canceled because of AI Who and why?
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  Speaker 2: Just before how Fast and a Business New Zealand report
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  Speaker 2: warns of a shortfall of at least two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty thousand workers by twenty forty five. So where are
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  Speaker 2: we going to get these workers from? We'll have that
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  Speaker 2: story just before six. We'll have correspondence from right around
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  Speaker 2: New zeal And. Peter Anderson joining us from the UK.
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  Speaker 2: And you can have your say anytime you like with
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  Speaker 2: a text ninety two ninety two in a small chat
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  Speaker 2: jupplies at seven up to.
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  Speaker 3: Five the agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the nineteenth of November. Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince
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  Speaker 2: Mohammed ben Salmon is at the White House. He's here
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  Speaker 2: to discuss deals on defense and civilian nuclear power, and
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump says the United States will sell F thirty
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  Speaker 2: five fighter jets to the Saudis.
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  Speaker 4: You're in a great lay. They've got to like us
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  Speaker 4: very much. Look at the Iran situation. What we did
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  Speaker 4: in terms obliterating there, We obliterated their nuclear capability. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I will say that we will be doing that. We'll
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  Speaker 4: be selling F thirty five.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein victims have been speaking in Washington ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the United States House of Representatives vote to release
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  Speaker 2: all the files.
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  Speaker 6: I am begging every member of Congress, every representative, to
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  Speaker 6: step up and choose the chaos. Choose the survivors, choose
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  Speaker 6: the children's attacked the children.
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  Speaker 2: The bill calls for travel records and names of individuals
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  Speaker 2: and entities referenced in the investigation to be unveiled. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green is still heading out of Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: despite his change of heart on the bill.
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  Speaker 7: I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him,
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  Speaker 7: for the policies and for America first. And he called
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  Speaker 7: me a trader for standing with these women and refusing
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  Speaker 7: to take my name off the discharge petition.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, Google's boss says every company in the world
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  Speaker 2: would be affected if the AI bubble were to burst.
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  Speaker 2: He says, while the growth of AI investment has been extraordinary,
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  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of irrationality in the current AI boom.
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  Speaker 5: There are moments you or shoot right. Collectively as an industry,
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  Speaker 5: we can look back at the Internet right now. There
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  Speaker 5: was clearly a lot of excess investment, but none of
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  Speaker 5: us would question whether the Internet was profound or did
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  Speaker 5: it drive a lot of impact. It's fundamentally changed how
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  Speaker 5: he worked. Did you as a society? I expect AI
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  Speaker 5: to be the scene, so I think it's bought rational
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  Speaker 5: and there are elements of irrationality through a moment like this.
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  Speaker 2: More on AI just before five point thirty is coming
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  Speaker 2: up ten past five.
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  Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Brian
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  Speaker 3: Bridge and r V Supercenter explore r these accessories and
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  Speaker 3: servicing all in one news talks that'd be.
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  Speaker 2: So the Greens yesterday threatened to cancel mining contracts and
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  Speaker 2: permits retrospectively if they get into power, and it was
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  Speaker 2: greeted by scorn from the Finance minister. Also act in
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand, first Shane Jones reached for his thesaurus and
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  Speaker 2: slammed it. Meanwhile, David Seymour called it economic terrorism and
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  Speaker 2: the Finance Minister called it economic vandalism. But I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give the Greens some praise. It's better to know
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  Speaker 2: what they want to do rather than having to second
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  Speaker 2: guess them, something you can't say about Labour these days,
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  Speaker 2: because who knows what they would do. Secondly, this is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely what they've always wanted to do, so at least
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  Speaker 2: they're staying true to their beliefs, which again is more
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  Speaker 2: than you can say about many politicians. And Thirdly, the
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  Speaker 2: simple point is if you agree with them, vote for them.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, don't simple as that they're nowhere near
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  Speaker 2: power yet, but you know they're not wrong that the
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  Speaker 2: world needs to get over burning stuff. But that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: happen overnight. It is a process, and we're already so
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  Speaker 2: much better than we were twenty years ago. It's just that,
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  Speaker 2: as you grow your economy, your alternatives need to grow too,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a never ending process. And this is why,
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  Speaker 2: despite all our best efforts, we still need coal. And
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather buy New Zealand coal than Malaysian And we
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  Speaker 2: are buying coal. We need it to keep the lights on.
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  Speaker 2: We've bought one million tons of coal this year alone
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  Speaker 2: to keep the lights on. But you know what really
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  Speaker 2: you to telling me about yesterday's drama was the claim
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  Speaker 2: that counseling international contracts ruins our international reputation. And I
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  Speaker 2: thought that was a little rich because the current government
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  Speaker 2: easily canceled the cook Straight ferry deal and had to
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  Speaker 2: pay a hefty amount to compensation. So are they any better?
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  Speaker 3: Were we?
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  Speaker 2: Is our reputation any worse? Alie Jones last night on
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  Speaker 2: the panel noted that they canceled fair pay legislation. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't see women around the world samming us. And
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  Speaker 2: this government is wearing the brunt of criticism about our
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  Speaker 2: climate policy at COP thirty, but they don't seem to
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  Speaker 2: mind that either. You know, governments cancel former governments deals
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and it happens all around the world,
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  Speaker 2: and people don't have conniptions, So let's stop thinking about
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  Speaker 2: whatever other people think and it's just stay true to
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  Speaker 2: our own beliefs that be Here's a shocking statistic for
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Apparently the government spends thirty eight million dollars
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  Speaker 2: on business startup grants to beneficiaries and the worst thing
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  Speaker 2: about it is that they don't check out how well
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  Speaker 2: the investment's going. We'll have the story for you in
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  Speaker 2: a few moments time with Phil Wicks, who is the
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  Speaker 2: Small Business New Zealand founder. It is twelve after five.
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  Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Bryan Bridge and are these super center
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  Speaker 1: explore of these accessories and servicing fall than one news
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  Speaker 1: talks they'd be Good.
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  Speaker 2: Morning to you Andrew Dickins today it is fourteen minutes
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  Speaker 2: after five. We've got some evidence of bad spending by
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  Speaker 2: the Ministry of Social Development and OIA by the Taxpayers
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  Speaker 2: Union has revealed the government spent over thirty eight million
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  Speaker 2: dollars on business startup grants and they gave them to beneficiaries. However,
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  Speaker 2: the Ministry doesn't track the performance of the businesses to
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  Speaker 2: see how they do once we give them the handout.
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  Speaker 2: And the real kicker hundreds of those given the grants,
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  Speaker 2: we're back on the benefit within two years. To talk
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  Speaker 2: about this, I'm joined by Phil Wicks, who is the
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  Speaker 2: Small Business New Zealand founder.
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  Speaker 8: Morning to you, Phil, Good morning here are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good? Is this bad fund management? George just playing stupidity?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I'll also entrepreneurship. You know it's being my life
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  Speaker 8: with small business owner's. Starting business is hard. It's not
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  Speaker 8: a quick fix round employment. If we're going to use
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  Speaker 8: taxpayers made to help people into business has to be
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  Speaker 8: more than just writing checks and wishing them a goodish
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  Speaker 8: and good.
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  Speaker 2: Luck, patting on the back and go go to it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to be rude, but the guys that
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  Speaker 2: they've given the thirty eight million dollars to are already
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  Speaker 2: unemployed and there may be a reason for that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, our starting a business is not a social service.
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  Speaker 8: It's a high risk commercial decision. You need skills, planning, support, resilience,
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  Speaker 8: not just a lumplification as you see to put on
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  Speaker 8: the back. Now, often people on these schemes of the
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  Speaker 8: furtherest from the labor market. I guess it doesn't mean
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  Speaker 8: I can't succeed. And I said I'm all for entrepreneurship.
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  Speaker 8: But it does mean they need more structure, more mentoring,
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  Speaker 8: and clearer expectations, not less. And you got a proper
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  Speaker 8: recourse on what happens as well.
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  Speaker 2: You could say we have tracked this because we've found
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  Speaker 2: out that hundreds of the people who got these grants
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  Speaker 2: we're back on the benefit within two years. So we
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  Speaker 2: can assume that the business has failed. And so we
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  Speaker 2: can assume, you know, the whole program did not work.
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  Speaker 2: So we should just stop it, shouldn't we?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I would think so if you take some he's
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  Speaker 8: been on a benefit for a long time in government
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  Speaker 8: grad Child'm not a business owner, but you don't wrap
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  Speaker 8: proper support around them. You're almost you're almost setting them
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  Speaker 8: up to fail and sending them straight back into straight
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  Speaker 8: back into a benefit.
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  Speaker 2: How should we spend thirty eight million dollars in a
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  Speaker 2: better way?
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  Speaker 8: Well, there are schemes, you know, there are some very
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  Speaker 8: good government schemes. The capabilities out your scheme for one,
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  Speaker 8: which is it's a small you know, I think it's
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  Speaker 8: a very underfunded scheme. It's but it's very well run.
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  Speaker 8: It's run very well by the regional business partners. There's
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  Speaker 8: a good structure around it, and an office of generally
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  Speaker 8: offers a very good returnal investment. You know, business owners
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  Speaker 8: get up to it's fifty fifty funding, they get up
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  Speaker 8: to five thousand dollars. But you can trace back and
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  Speaker 8: we've done that with our own clients that have benefited
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  Speaker 8: from that scheme. I think about a year ago, had
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  Speaker 8: to look at everybody that had been throughout with and
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  Speaker 8: we could measure that on average they over a long
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  Speaker 8: term they've got about I think it was about one
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  Speaker 8: hundred and eleven percent growth. Now that's a return on
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  Speaker 8: investment that's well run. You can measure it, and you
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  Speaker 8: know that those businesses that succeed off of more into
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  Speaker 8: the economy, there's more tax that they're paying these more
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  Speaker 8: people that they employ. So that's an example of a
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  Speaker 8: of a really well run scheme. But there's a lot
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  Speaker 8: of like I said, there's a lot of support support
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  Speaker 8: around there. You know, if you're don't to do anything
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  Speaker 8: like this, you must make the money conditional on mass milestones,
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  Speaker 8: you know, finishing a business plan, complete training, show some
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  Speaker 8: actual customers, hit some revenue, few targets. Yeah, yeah, well
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  Speaker 8: that's our investors will work in the real world isn't
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  Speaker 8: exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: Execuate Phil works, I thank you for your time. Small
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  Speaker 2: Business New Zealand founder more on this with Mike. He's
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  Speaker 2: going to talk to Phil Riley. He's going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the whole thing. It does seem quite bizarre, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: It is eighteen minutes after five, so we've had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talk about how you go to a tech
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  Speaker 2: get a trade. It turns out that getting a traded
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  Speaker 2: print inship isn't necessarily a good thing for everybody. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: over half the apprentice trainees in New Zealand drop out
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  Speaker 2: before they complete their course.
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  Speaker 3: Why.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we're talking to Gus Gilmore, who is the
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  Speaker 2: CEO of Tippukinga, which, by the way is the text
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  Speaker 2: that's the Institute's that's next here on news Talks here
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  Speaker 2: b it's nineteen after five.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Early Edition with r V Supercenter explore
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  Speaker 1: r v's accessories and servicing.
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  Speaker 3: All in one news Talks.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be twenty one after five. I talked about the
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  Speaker 2: Greens earlier, about their economic vandalism, their economic terrorism whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, well, they're just standing up for what
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  Speaker 2: they believe in. Taylor writes, I don't know which way
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  Speaker 2: it's all going to swing next year, and this all
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  Speaker 2: makes me worried either way. All right, it turns out
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  Speaker 2: a trade apprenticeship isn't the hail Mary. Some think it is.
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  Speaker 2: Over half of our apprentice trainees in New Zealand drop
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  Speaker 2: out before they complete their course. Last night, Vocational Education
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  Speaker 2: Minister Penny Simmons told Ryan Bridge how much we've wasted
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 10: It's tens of millions, probably getting close to hundreds of millions,
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  Speaker 10: so it's quite a lot of money.
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  Speaker 11: But it's a waste all round.
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  Speaker 5: Really.
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  Speaker 10: It's a waste for the government, but it's also a
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  Speaker 10: waste for the employer.
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  Speaker 2: So joining me now is the CEO of Tipper Kinger,
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  Speaker 2: Gus Gilmore.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Gus, Good morning Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Is the money spent on your thing a waste?
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  Speaker 9: Look?
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  Speaker 12: I think the initiative from the ministers she announced yesterday
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  Speaker 12: is a really good thing. We need to continue to
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  Speaker 12: research thoroughly why we're losing apprentices and a key to
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  Speaker 12: that is first year attention rates. That's the canary in
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  Speaker 12: the mind for us, and we've seen a steady decline
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  Speaker 12: in those first year attention rates.
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  Speaker 8: Why due to a.
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  Speaker 12: Number of factors.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Why.
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  Speaker 12: There's sort of three main categories from the research we
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  Speaker 12: did in twenty twenty three. The first one is the
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  Speaker 12: system level type factors where the apprentice and the employee
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  Speaker 12: don't have control over things like training, wage rates, low pay,
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  Speaker 12: economic climate where are simply apprentices are unemployment and lose
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  Speaker 12: their job due to the downturn in our economy. Second
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  Speaker 12: major area is government compliance and immigration policy settings. So
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  Speaker 12: in some sectors it's not a requirement to have apprenticeship
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  Speaker 12: qualification and we see in those areas of our economy
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  Speaker 12: the dropout rates are higher. And then the third major
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  Speaker 12: category is government incentives and apprentice apprenticeship boost scheme is
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  Speaker 12: a really good one. During twenty during the COVID period,
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  Speaker 12: there was an incentive which paid employers to attract and
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  Speaker 12: retain apprentices. Unfortunately, that turned into a bit of a
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  Speaker 12: sugar rush and we saw huge growth and apprenticeship numbers,
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  Speaker 12: but the completion rates foul.
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  Speaker 2: So the ball is in your court. You're here to
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  Speaker 2: train our next generation of workers. Can we fix it?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: And there is an emerging positive picture.
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  Speaker 12: As I said, the canary in the mind is our
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  Speaker 12: first year attention rates. Last year in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 12: we saw those first year rates move from sixty percent
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  Speaker 12: to seventy percent. So we're going to see more apprentices
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  Speaker 12: completing over the next three four years of their apprenticeship program.
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  Speaker 12: But important initiatives likes providing support in the workplace. Two
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  Speaker 12: apprentices is important. Apprentice is feeling valued, having the right
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  Speaker 12: culture in the workplace, providing mentors from industry, those experienced
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  Speaker 12: people wrapping their support around our young people while a're
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  Speaker 12: learning on the job.
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  Speaker 2: Good stuff, Gus, I thank you so much for your
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  Speaker 2: time today and I wish you were the very best
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  Speaker 2: of luck. And if you are doing this thing, stick
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  Speaker 2: to it. It'll play off in the long run. Five
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  Speaker 2: twenty four the early.
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  Speaker 1: Edition for All the Show podcast on Iart Radio Power
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  Speaker 1: by News Talks at Me.
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  Speaker 2: News Books have B five twenty six. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: bit of controversy in the Ockham New Zealand Book Awards
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  Speaker 2: as two books by notable authors are withdrawn from competition
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  Speaker 2: because their covers were created using AI. Shame on them,
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  Speaker 2: Stephanie Johnson's collection of short stories called Obligate Carnivore and
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Smithers collection of Novella's Angel Train are the two
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  Speaker 2: books canceled so their covers were created using AI, and
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  Speaker 2: the Book Awards are on high alert for anything that
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  Speaker 2: takes the place of human activity in the creative field.
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  Speaker 2: The decision to amend the criteria around AI was spurred
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  Speaker 2: by a desire to support creative and copyright interests of
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  Speaker 2: the country's writers and illustrators. So, look, I understand the
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  Speaker 2: concern from the creatives about the rise of AI, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they really understand how AI was used
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  Speaker 2: in these circumstances. So you make a cover, A graphic
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  Speaker 2: designer does that. Sometimes they might commission an artist to
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  Speaker 2: draw the cover. That's all good. More often, though, they've
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  Speaker 2: been creating images using computer programs like Photoshop or Adobe,
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  Speaker 2: but an. In all cases, a human is in charge,
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  Speaker 2: and it's the same here. Elizabeth Smithers team had a
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  Speaker 2: specific image of Mind combining a steam locomotive and an
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  Speaker 2: angel inspired by Mark Schaghale, and then a human asked
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  Speaker 2: AI to do it. It popped it out. Then a
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  Speaker 2: human refined it is that any different to a graphic
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  Speaker 2: designer pulling it together in Adobe? But AI is spooking
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  Speaker 2: the creatives, right, AI bands have had hit albums. Now
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  Speaker 2: Paul McCartney is releasing a single two minutes forty five
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  Speaker 2: seconds of complete silence, in protests at all the AI
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  Speaker 2: that is stealing a sound. Morgan Freeman is writing against
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  Speaker 2: AI copies of his voice. But Elizabeth Smithers and Stephanie
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  Speaker 2: Johnson wrote their books, and in Stephanie's case, the short
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  Speaker 2: stories have been written over twenty years. But now her
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  Speaker 2: work has been canceled because of a virtue signaling protest
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  Speaker 2: against progress. She must be heartbroken. AI is out of
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  Speaker 2: the genies bottle. It's important that whenever it's used, its
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  Speaker 2: influence should be credited. But it still can't do its
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  Speaker 2: own thing. It still needs a human to guide it
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  Speaker 2: and set it on its way. So it's just like
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  Speaker 2: any other tool, including a pen and a piece of paper. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: on AI on Thursday, we hear the Nvidia result. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Nvidia is the bell weather stock of AI is the
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  Speaker 2: chips that they use to fire this whole thing. And
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  Speaker 2: there are bears and bulls and people talking about the
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  Speaker 2: bursting of the AI tech bubble as being a thing.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to warn that AI is interesting,
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  Speaker 2: AI is good, but AI is still in its infancy
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  Speaker 2: and there's a lot a long way to go before
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  Speaker 2: it becomes a terminator film. And I have to say
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  Speaker 2: what interesting times we live in. And I don't agree
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  Speaker 2: that Ockham New Zealand Book Awards should actually cancel. Stephanie
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  Speaker 2: Johnson and Elizabeth Smithers.
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  Speaker 3: Zibby, raise yourself.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to play some Metallica in a few moments
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  Speaker 2: time that is certainly not artificially generated by a computer.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, some incredible stories around Metallica. So that's on
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  Speaker 2: its way. Text through from Mark about their appredices. He
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  Speaker 2: reckons half of them drop out because the training is subsidized,
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  Speaker 2: if not free, and taken on by low income family
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  Speaker 2: members who are unemployed. They train because they need to
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  Speaker 2: do something, but then they find a paid wage employee
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: elsewhere and they leave for immediate dollars. But it does
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: mean that taxpayers dollars have been somewhat wasted in the
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: process Metallica. Our UK correspondent Peter Anderson, apparently the Chinese
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: spies are using LinkedIn. That's all on the way. I'll
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: tell you what's happened out of Cop thirty as well.
• 17:26
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• 17:28
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• 17:42
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  Speaker 5: Want into you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: A little bit of Metallica to wake you up.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Hot and heavy.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: They're playing tonight in Auckham's I'm Going. I can tell
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you the weather is kind of misty rain and it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: pretty humid and warm. It's actually perfect music for hot,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: hard and heavy metal music. So there we go. Now
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be traffic chaos all around, Eat and part,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: they say, And there's gonna be traffic coias and orkhand.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: The whole thing is sold out. However, if you really
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: want to go because you just heard a little bit
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of sad Man, there are still VIP tickets available, but
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: hold your horses. They are not cheap. Metallica gives you
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: a snake pits experience. It's advertised at four thousand dollars
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: a ticket. You get your ticket, you get a lanyard,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: you get exclusive standing sections seats, you get a meet
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and greeting conversation with just two of the band members
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: and you get an official photo with them four thousand dollars.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: You also get a tour backstage, a photo on stage,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and party with other fans pre show with free drinks
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and canopies, and you get priority lanes at the venue
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and taking. You get to take home some exclusive merchandise
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and an audio file of the show from the night.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Four thousand bucks.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Can you believe it?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: For one thousand you can get a ticket to the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: snake pit standing section, pre show party entry, slightly less
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: merch and the audio file, no interaction with the band,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: And for five hundred dollars you could get yourself a
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: four ticket with early entry, a Metallica drink bottle or cup,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: one free beverage, early access to the merch stand and
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: a priority laying into the venue. Now, look, I love Metallica,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: but not that much. It is twenty two to six.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Used dogs'd be around the country.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: We go Callum Procter joins is from Otago. Good morning
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to you, Callum morning, Andrew. So the Great Walks, there's
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of them down your area, but they're being
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: hit with delays and opening.
• 19:44
  Speaker 13: Yeah, well the big one's milk for track isn't it,
• 19:46
  Speaker 13: And it's now going to reopen on Monday. Was meant
• 19:50
  Speaker 13: to be today, but it's been pushed out again after
• 19:53
  Speaker 13: significant spring snow and rain caused large avalanches on the
• 19:57
  Speaker 13: track that changed water courses to damage sections of the
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: track covered sections with debris as well, so another delay.
• 20:04
  Speaker 13: Dock's already been forced to delay it's reopening twice. November
• 20:07
  Speaker 13: eleven was the first date, the first postponed date that
• 20:10
  Speaker 13: was pushed out to today and November nineteen, so it's
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: now going to be Monday, which is the twenty fourth.
• 20:16
  Speaker 13: Doc says that these persistent avalanche conditions coupled with all
• 20:19
  Speaker 13: this unfavorable weather meant their work to reinstall some bridges
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: just wasn't possible until this week. They've been in direct
• 20:26
  Speaker 13: contact with the poor old walkers who have been impacted.
• 20:29
  Speaker 13: They're now looking forward to hopefully getting on with it
• 20:31
  Speaker 13: uninterrupted summer.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I hear that the Rootburn track is still partially
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: closed because they've got wasiste deep snow. Meanwhile, we're playing
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the plunket shield and cricket funny old time of the year. Hey,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: how is your weather today?
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 20:44
  Speaker 13: Pretty good around the South mostly Dunedin's mainly find north
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: Easterly is today twenty to high.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: To Christ here as we go. Good morning, Clear Sherwood,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Good morning, very sad day, and I remember this day
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: very well. Fifteen years since the Pike River explosions of
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: what's happening hard.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: To believe it's been that long.
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  Speaker 14: I know. Look, it has been fifteen years today since
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: twenty nine men died in the Pike River. Mind Anna
• 21:05
  Speaker 14: Osborne who lost her husband and Sonya Rockhouse, whose son
• 21:09
  Speaker 14: died today spending the anniversary.
• 21:12
  Speaker 11: Some are a little unusual, to be fair.
• 21:14
  Speaker 14: They're sitting down with the Workplace Relations and Safety Minister
• 21:16
  Speaker 14: at Brook van Valden. They did request a meeting and
• 21:20
  Speaker 14: they did also want the minister to watch the newly
• 21:22
  Speaker 14: released film Pike River ahead of it. They tell me
• 21:25
  Speaker 14: they're not sure of today's meeting and the timing of
• 21:28
  Speaker 14: it was intentional, but they do say most people would
• 21:31
  Speaker 14: like to spend an anniversary like this with their loved
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: ones commemorating in their own way. Anna Osborne, though, says
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: they do plan to sit the minister down tell her
• 21:40
  Speaker 14: how hard it is to lose a loved one at
• 21:42
  Speaker 14: work and to feel like it's being brushed under the carpet.
• 21:45
  Speaker 14: In fact, her words were that she still feels as
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: if no one in New Zealand gives a damn about
• 21:50
  Speaker 14: workplace safety the minister. We've been chasing some answers to
• 21:54
  Speaker 14: questions for several days now, and we do want to
• 21:56
  Speaker 14: know whether she's watched the movie. Her office have responded
• 21:59
  Speaker 14: they haven't said any of our questions, but they did
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: say this is a meeting requested by some of the
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: families and the Minister has accepted their invitation and will listen.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how'd you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 14: With her often cloudy simpatche light rain about this morning
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: nor the least easing and the high will be twenty
• 22:14
  Speaker 14: three to Wellington?
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: We go next, told good morning, good morning.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: What's the latest we know from the sense and fire
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that has broken all of their hearts.
• 22:21
  Speaker 16: Yeah, we've been waiting for this update and it came yesterday.
• 22:24
  Speaker 16: This house fire and Samson in man O, wa Tu
• 22:26
  Speaker 16: Saturday afternoon, absolutely horrific. Three young children under seven dead, August,
• 22:31
  Speaker 16: Hugo and Goldie and their father dead as well. At
• 22:34
  Speaker 16: first you thought, how could this happen at two o'clock
• 22:37
  Speaker 16: in the afternoon and Sadly, our suspicions were finally confirmed
• 22:40
  Speaker 16: that police are treating it as a homicide, i e.
• 22:42
  Speaker 16: A triple murder suicide potentially carried out by the father.
• 22:46
  Speaker 16: We understand he's a local businessman. The comment that really
• 22:49
  Speaker 16: stood out by police yesterday was that the father himself
• 22:53
  Speaker 16: was not burned in the fire. Post mortems have now
• 22:56
  Speaker 16: been carried out. We don't know exactly how the children
• 22:59
  Speaker 16: die yet. We don't know if they died in the
• 23:01
  Speaker 16: fire or were killed earlier. Potentially three hundred thousand dollars
• 23:05
  Speaker 16: so far raised in fundraising efforts for the children's grieving mother.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, how's your weather?
• 23:11
  Speaker 16: Showers today? North least twenty today's Hey, you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Never read of a man who joins me right now?
• 23:15
  Speaker 11: From morning to good morning.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I played some Metallica and talked about Metallica, and you
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: are going, oh, yeah, wow, it's going to be awesome.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Full house as well, fall house. It's not just eating
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: part that's going to be full.
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: No, you're quite right. So you know, we've also got
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: four thousand international delegates. They're going to be gathering the CBD,
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: the LTI As Center. Now, this is four the country's
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: largest ever academic conference celebrating Indigenous education, so we've got
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: that happening this week or happening right now. And Metallica,
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: so the much needed boost for Auckland hotels today fifty
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: seven thousand visitor nights, bringing them to full capacity. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: good news.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: You cannot get a hotel room in Auckland.
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: And if you do, Crawul, you're probably gonna play like
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: three thousand. Hey, so what's the tips. What time are
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: you getting down there to Eden Park?
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: Will you be there by like three thirty?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: There's a band Evanescence is playing also Suicidal Tendencies in
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: their Metallica, so you know they start playing from five
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: to thirty, so anytime.
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: Well, I live in that hood, so I'm not going, obviously,
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: but I'm looking forward to listening to it all from
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: my balcony.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, and how is the weather for the concert?
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: Okay, well rain, but that'll be quite nice though.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: It'll bead shower booky and yeah, that's.
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: Fit the mood. And it's still warm. Twenty two is
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: the high So yeah, looking pretty good for the fans.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Never read your manner on the way.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what happened at cop thirty and unfortunately
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it's not good for us. And also there's this new
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: report out at the moment which is about always bad.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It's about how New Zealand will be in twenty fifty.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We won't have enough workers, pensions will absorb all of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: our income tax and a whole lot more. We'll talk
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: more about this before six here on news Talk.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: ZB International correspondence with ends and Eye durrants peace of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It is now fourteen to six. I made Ridd Dickens
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to the UK. We go Peter Amison, good morning.
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: To you, Andrew, good morning.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Britis in Peace have been worn by Security Service five
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: that their risk are being targeted by Chinese spies through
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: LinkedIn Yeah.
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: The UK's Security Service mi I five has issued an
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: espionage alert to MPs in the House of Commons, but
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: also to Parliament's second chamber, the House of Lords. The
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: warning highlights a significant risk of espionage from the Chinese state,
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: with China believed to be targeting many of those working
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: closely with national politicians. It's understood that individuals such as
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: parliamentary staff, economists, consultants and advisors are being targeted for
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: so called insider insights. I five has even named two
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: bogus LinkedIn profiles which it believes are being used by
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: China's Ministry of State Security to target individuals working with
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: UK politicians, and China's aim is to create long term
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: relationships that can collect information and influence the UK's parliament.
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: According to MI five, Britain security services are also warning
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: of other methods being employed by China, including offers of
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: cash or cryptocurrency in an effort to buy insider information.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Well, if a stranger actually ask you how's your job
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: going on LinkedIn, I would say don't answer. Now we've
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: got take from Formula one is being used in a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: scheme to provide faster and more reliable Wi Fi on
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: British trains.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: Recent research has shown that the UK has among the
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: worst train Wi Fi speeds among Europe and Asia's major nations,
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: for example, with download speeds taking roughly sixty times as
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: long as they would in Sweden. Now one train company,
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: Great Western Railway, which covers the southwest of England, is
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: looking to address the problem thanks to racing car technology.
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: Its joined forces with a specialist tech company that used
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: to be part of Formula one. Business McLaren Group, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: together they're trialing a hybrid system that allows train Wi
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: Fi to switch automatically between the signal from mobile phone
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: masts on the ground and the signal from low earth
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: orbit satellites in space. And The boffins behind the idea
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: say the issues in accessing the Internet on a train
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: have many parallels with the challenges faced in motorsport, and
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: they hope their trial will enable users to reliably connect
• 27:26
  Speaker 9: to the Internet while traveling without dropouts.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Good South, Peter Edison, I thank you so much for
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: your time today. Now Cop thirty wrapped up in Brazil.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Four big takeaways or run you through them. First, the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: world needs action, not promises. Leaders say it's time to
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: deliver on climate goals. Second, Forests front and center billions
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: pledged to protect the Amazon and support indigenous communities. Thirdly,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: climate justice is key, Tackling inequality and building global partnerships
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: is the only way forward. And finally, and this is
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the big one, and this is why I'm mentioning it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: This will affect us. Their final fourth takeaway, cutting super
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: per allutants like methane, the conference reckons that would slash
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: warming by half a degree by twenty fifty and that
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: would be a fast win and unfortunately, of course we
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: make a lot of methane. It's eleven to six Z.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: There's a worrying new report out this morning from Business
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: in New Zealand. It projects a short fall of at
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: least two hundred and fifty thousand workers by twenty forty five,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: with health and pensions absorbing one hundred percent of our
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: income tax. And they also reckon there's a one and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: four chance of no population growth at all, and they'd
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: like to see a national bipartisan vision. Leanne Watson is
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the chief executive of Business Canterbury Joints.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 28:39
  Speaker 15: Hello Leanne, good morning Andrew.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Not a pleasant read, but are they right?
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: Look, I think there is a number of things in
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: the report that certainly requires some more robust thinking that
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: I think calling for too much by part of an
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: agreement might be a little unrealistic, particularly as we are
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: heading into an election year next year. What we do
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: need is a clear understanding of the go no go
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: areas from major political parties and definitely reducing that pendulum
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: swing to something more manageable for business. You know, the
• 29:09
  Speaker 10: business people I talk to around the country looking for
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: a conversation about steady, incremental progress, not a pendulum slift
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: shift which would potentially south go backwards.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: So that's what a national, a nation bipartisan vision would
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: look to you just calm down, kick to full time goals.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: But the thing that gets me is the two hundred
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand workers. I mean, we need workers, business
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: needs workers. Do we need to change immigration settings? You know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: what what can we do about this shortfall?
• 29:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah?
• 29:36
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, And look, I think you know there is definitely
• 29:38
  Speaker 10: air requirement here to ensure that we create some I
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: guess the scale and the timing of those policy settings
• 29:47
  Speaker 10: needs to be you know, really clearly laid out for
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: businesses and for migrants and salves. I mean, we will
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: always need international talent. We're a country at the bottom
• 29:55
  Speaker 10: of the world and we're a small country, so it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 10: a combination of both.
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: Though we need.
• 30:00
  Speaker 10: International talent, we need to provide certainly around those immigration settings,
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: because when you're making a decision to move, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: from the other side of the world to a different country,
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: you don't do so lightly, and so having potential for
• 30:13
  Speaker 10: those settings to change from one government to another is
• 30:15
  Speaker 10: really unsettling for both those people making those decisions, but
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: also for the employers who are making big investments on
• 30:22
  Speaker 10: bringing people into the country. We also need to help
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: with her to grow our own talent, and we need
• 30:27
  Speaker 10: to make sure there's a really good interface between our
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: education sector and industry around future workforce planning, and some
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: of that has happening. You know, we've got a couple
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: of great universities in Canterbury, canib University in particular, really
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: engaged with our business community to make sure that they're
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: getting those conversations going and getting the right talent coming
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: through our education systems.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I'm loving your tone, though, because this comes out at
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: a bad time and we've had a hard year and
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: everyone's talking us down and you know, the confidence is low,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and then we hear this like by twenty fifty it's
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: going to be even worse. But you're she's saying there's
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: still a lot to look forward to.
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: Well, absolutely, I mean I'm from Canterbury and you know
• 31:06
  Speaker 10: we are fortunate we are in our region and you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: in the South Island, you know, things are actually going
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: reasonably well. We've got you know, really great net month
• 31:17
  Speaker 10: internal migration. You know, we're seeing population growth, you know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: we're seeing export growth and so I think, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: there is a lot to be positive about around our
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: economy in the future. Has it been challenging for the
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: last sort of five years, Absolutely it has. But I think,
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: you know, if we get these settings right, if we
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: create confidence, and you know, we've been doing a bit
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: of work in Canterbary to provide some of the answers
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: to make sure that we do have a long term
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: vision and there's a role for the private sector to
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: play that in terms of having a really strong ambition.
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: There is a role for local government and central government
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: to create the right environment for you know, businesses to
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: do what they do best, which is to innovate, to
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: invest and to grow and all of us that's actually
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: government getting out of lay and sometimes the right.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: Lead exactly, all of us working together, Lee and Watson
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: from Business to Canterbury. I thank you so much for
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: your time today.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day early
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and r V Supercenter explore r
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: v's accessories and servicing.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: More than one news talks.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: That'd be all right, stop with the negative texts.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Don't need that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I know what Business New Zealand has said but hey,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you're always got to look for good news. Aquaculture, Samford
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: profit up twenty two hundred and twenty four percent, and Mike,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you're talking to the Samford fellers today.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
• 32:34
  Speaker 15: He's an interesting bloke. In fact, it's a very likable guy.
• 32:36
  Speaker 15: He was at Scaler up until relatively recently, and Scaler
• 32:41
  Speaker 15: up for a good story in themselves. Of course, they're
• 32:43
  Speaker 15: more than just gun boots, and so he's moved into
• 32:45
  Speaker 15: Sandford and they had problems, so they've had so it's
• 32:48
  Speaker 15: a Samford story, not a fishing or aquaculture story. So
• 32:51
  Speaker 15: he's basically in a year since he's been there, turned
• 32:54
  Speaker 15: them around, paid off a lot of debt, and they've
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: got a China Bullish on China and interesting on America
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: as well in terms of terriff, because those are the
• 33:02
  Speaker 15: two main market. And muscles. See I love muscles. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: would have thought muscles if you'd ask me, I see,
• 33:08
  Speaker 15: I love them, But but I would have thought that
• 33:10
  Speaker 15: they're booming. People love Chinese love muscles full of mine,
• 33:13
  Speaker 15: full of proteins. Good, it's a protein story to Metallica,
• 33:17
  Speaker 15: of course, I am who doesn't who doesn't go to
• 33:21
  Speaker 15: Metallica when they're in town. Why is Metallica a thing
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  Speaker 15: in terms of you know, it's going to be chaotic
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  Speaker 15: and it's parking?
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  Speaker 7: Is it?
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  Speaker 15: I mean, why isn't I mean every constants the same,
• 33:30
  Speaker 15: every concident is the same. So is it going to
• 33:32
  Speaker 15: be exactly the same, exactly the same? Is it a
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  Speaker 15: different sort of operator? Who's going?
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  Speaker 3: Is that the Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I would say that you won't be able to see
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the crowd because they're all in black T shirts.
• 33:43
  Speaker 15: Are they the sort of people who park their car
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  Speaker 15: on lawns? Very probably?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Very probably?
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  Speaker 3: Are you going? Yes, I am?
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  Speaker 15: You have good time?
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.
• 33:51
  Speaker 15: Will honestly they.
• 33:53
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