Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 17 December 2025
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on
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- 0:12Speaker 2: That'd be Welcome morning, Welcome to the program, Thank you
- 0:14Speaker 2: so much for choosing us. We're here for the next hour.
- 0:17Speaker 2: And coming up. Dodgy electoral practices involving voter fraud has
- 0:21Speaker 2: meant to result in the recent local body elections has
- 0:24Speaker 2: been voided. What the hell went down and how can
- 0:26Speaker 2: we avoid this in the future? That story in five minutes.
- 0:29Speaker 2: We've got a new mega ministry. It's called m SERT.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Can you come up with a better name? The Ministry
- 0:34Speaker 2: for Cities, Environments, Regions and Transport. But what is the
- 0:38Speaker 2: problem that's trying to solve and is it the answer?
- 0:40Speaker 2: And breaking news the country has broke and therefore just
- 0:44Speaker 2: before sex, what would Barbara Edmonds and labor do differently?
- 0:47Speaker 2: We'll have these stories plus corresponders from right around New
- 0:50Speaker 2: zeal And, Gavin Gray out of the UK, and news
- 0:52Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can have your say on
- 0:54Speaker 2: the text. Ninety two ninety two is a number. Small
- 0:56Speaker 2: charge applies at seven after five. Well's Wednesday the seventeenth
- 1:02Speaker 2: of December, three more Bondai shooting victims have been named.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Here's a tragedy. The couple happy named Boris and Sophia German.
- 1:12Speaker 2: They were killed at the hannukaer attack that they're fifteen
- 1:14Speaker 2: ded They tried to stop the gunman. They actually grabbed
- 1:18Speaker 2: the gun, but they got shot for their trouble. Edith
- 1:20Speaker 2: Brupman has been named Dash came by way shows Boris
- 1:23Speaker 2: and Sophia trying to stop the gunman as they got
- 1:26Speaker 2: out of the car. Some of the other victims include
- 1:28Speaker 2: forty one year old Eli Schlanger, French national Dan el Kaim,
- 1:32Speaker 2: Holocaust survivor Alexander Klaytman, former police officer Peter Mayer, and
- 1:38Speaker 2: ten year old Matilda, who broke our hearts and broke
- 1:40Speaker 2: all the hearts at the Bondai service.
- 1:42Speaker 3: A happy kid.
- 1:43Speaker 4: You know some kids, they may be shy, they may
- 1:46Speaker 4: be afraid of you or something.
- 1:47Speaker 3: She was open, hard, openheart anyway.
- 1:50Speaker 2: She she was like a son and police are probing
- 1:54Speaker 2: a pre attack trip to the Philippines by the father
- 1:56Speaker 2: and son gunman, including claims of military style training. No
- 2:00Speaker 2: evidence of collusion.
- 2:02Speaker 4: There's no evidence that these people were part of a cell.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Clearly they were motivated by this extremist ideology. Now he
- 2:13Speaker 2: said he could do it, and he's gone and done it.
- 2:15Speaker 2: This is Donald Trump.
- 2:16Speaker 5: You'll be seeing.
- 2:16Speaker 6: I'm suing the BBC for putting words in my mouth
- 2:19Speaker 6: literally and to put words.
- 2:20Speaker 7: In my mouth.
- 2:21Speaker 6: They had me saying things that I never said coming out.
- 2:23Speaker 6: I guess they used AI or something. So we'll be
- 2:27Speaker 6: bringing that lass. A lot of people were asking, why
- 2:28Speaker 6: are you bringing that lawsuit? Even the media can't believe
- 2:32Speaker 6: that one.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Well, he's done it. He filed a five billion US
- 2:35Speaker 2: dollar lawsuit against the BBC over that edit of his
- 2:38Speaker 2: sixth January twenty twenty one speech in a Panorama documentary,
- 2:41Speaker 2: and Donald Trump's accused the broad caster of defamation and
- 2:44Speaker 2: of violating a trade practices law. The BBC says, well,
- 2:48Speaker 2: we're going to defend that. And now finally some Lizzo
- 2:58Speaker 2: So Pop souers elebrating a legal victory after a judge
- 3:01Speaker 2: dismissed allegations of fat shaming. This is a twenty twenty
- 3:04Speaker 2: three lawsuit filed by three of her former dancers who
- 3:07Speaker 2: she called fat. While those specific allegations have been dropped,
- 3:11Speaker 2: the case against Lizzo and her production company will continue
- 3:14Speaker 2: overclaims that the three dancers were subject to sexual harassment.
- 3:17Speaker 2: It's nine after five.
- 3:19Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the day earli
- 3:22Speaker 1: Eredition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore r
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- 3:30Speaker 2: That'd be all right, here's the moment I go for Grandpa.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I went for a walk yesterday just before the storm
- 3:36Speaker 2: came in. It was a beautiful walk. It was a
- 3:37Speaker 2: nice and warm and I saw two men working on
- 3:40Speaker 2: the most magnificent garden. So it's our main road. It's
- 3:44Speaker 2: on a slope facing the road. It's very very visible.
- 3:47Speaker 2: It's very very architectural. Nine shrubs cut into giant toperary balls.
- 3:52Speaker 2: It's amazing, the precision of the work, the dramatic mass
- 3:55Speaker 2: of box cut hedges around it, rock gardens and stairs
- 3:58Speaker 2: and concrete benches, all top off with four magnificent cypresses.
- 4:02Speaker 2: It's our work of art that we can all share.
- 4:04Speaker 2: From the road. And I caught the eye of one
- 4:06Speaker 2: of the professional gardeners, and I point it to the
- 4:08Speaker 2: gardener and gave them two thumbs up. In a chef's kiss,
- 4:11Speaker 2: and he smiled a big smile, gave me a thumbs up.
- 4:13Speaker 2: And that was a man proud of his work, a
- 4:15Speaker 2: job well done, a beautiful garden we can all enjoy.
- 4:19Speaker 2: And I do like fantastic gardens by the road. They
- 4:21Speaker 2: make a suburbs sing, don't they. It's a gift to
- 4:24Speaker 2: the community. I tend two gardens. One's a little one
- 4:28Speaker 2: and one's a big one. I've been working on them
- 4:30Speaker 2: a lot recently, getting them ready for Christmas. And if
- 4:32Speaker 2: I invited you round today, you'd say, oh, Andrew, nice garden,
- 4:36Speaker 2: and I'd be proud, and I'd be happy to make
- 4:38Speaker 2: you happy. And I say this because as I drive
- 4:41Speaker 2: to work, I drive through a state house area, an
- 4:44Speaker 2: old fashioned one, you know, with those three bedroom wooden
- 4:46Speaker 2: boxes set on grass fields. There are no plantings, there
- 4:50Speaker 2: is no garden, and the grass is often long and
- 4:53Speaker 2: uncared for. There's junk in the grass, there's cars in
- 4:55Speaker 2: the grass. There's maybe one or two lost children in
- 4:58Speaker 2: the grass. If I lived in such an environment, I
- 5:02Speaker 2: be on the booze or the gear as well. And
- 5:04Speaker 2: I have no idea why our state house areas are
- 5:07Speaker 2: so often so desolate. Why the tenants who have been
- 5:11Speaker 2: offered this lifeline take no pride in the property. You know,
- 5:15Speaker 2: if I was a state, I'd give you some tools
- 5:17Speaker 2: and say check you every six months have you done
- 5:19Speaker 2: some gardening? And check also that you haven't sold the
- 5:22Speaker 2: tools for a slab of beer. The state of your
- 5:25Speaker 2: garden is a reflection of your soul and pride and
- 5:30Speaker 2: ambition and care for the community. It can be done
- 5:34Speaker 2: very cheap, so go and do it for everybody's mental
- 5:37Speaker 2: health wellbeing. Twelve after five. I couldn't believe the story
- 5:42Speaker 2: yesterday about a local body result being thrown out over
- 5:44Speaker 2: claims of voter fraud. What country do we live in?
- 5:47Speaker 2: What country do we live in? Anyway? So what happened
- 5:52Speaker 2: in this electorate? And is there anything we can do
- 5:56Speaker 2: about it? We'll talk to the CEO of Transparency International,
- 5:59Speaker 2: New Zealand next here on Newstalks MB. It's twelve after
- 6:02Speaker 2: five on.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew
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- 6:15Speaker 2: B All right, it is now forteen minutes after five.
- 6:18Speaker 2: There are concerns about the integrity of our elections. After
- 6:20Speaker 2: a South Auckland local body result was thrown out over
- 6:23Speaker 2: claims of voter fraud, Amnico judge found irregularities in the
- 6:27Speaker 2: Puppet Toy Toy subdivision that affected the result. That means
- 6:30Speaker 2: a new election has to be held next year. Investigators
- 6:33Speaker 2: say seventy nine votes were cast without the voter's knowledge,
- 6:36Speaker 2: some allegedly taken straight from the mailboxes. Julie Hagey as
- 6:40Speaker 2: the CEO of Transparency International New Zealand, and joins you
- 6:43Speaker 2: now goombording.
- 6:44Speaker 3: To you, Julie, good morning.
- 6:46Speaker 2: This is pretty concerning. Really, we haven't really heard much
- 6:48Speaker 2: of this sort of thing in the past.
- 6:50Speaker 3: No, that's right. I think this is a very unusual case.
- 6:54Speaker 3: There have been complaints to judges, but none's actually none
- 6:58Speaker 3: has actually resulted in a an overturning of an election
- 7:02Speaker 3: as far as I could look back, as far as
- 7:04Speaker 3: I could see, So it's it is really an unusual case.
- 7:08Speaker 3: And I have to say I haven't seen the decision
- 7:09Speaker 3: of the complaint and no charge has been laid, but
- 7:13Speaker 3: though there are two investigations underway, so I can talk
- 7:17Speaker 3: about its publicly available in the media.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's interesting. It's interesting when they've looked at
- 7:21Speaker 2: seventy nine votes four the four councilors who got onto
- 7:25Speaker 2: the board all got on with majorities between twelve hundred
- 7:29Speaker 2: and two thousand. Would seventy nine irregular votes actually affecting
- 7:32Speaker 2: a result?
- 7:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that what the judge said
- 7:36Speaker 3: was that there was an indication that there might be more,
- 7:40Speaker 3: and that this was just the ones they opened, and
- 7:42Speaker 3: they found that a high portion of them had been
- 7:46Speaker 3: were actually voted for the group of the group, and
- 7:50Speaker 3: so they said there's likely to be it's likely to
- 7:52Speaker 3: be a bigger problem. And so I think that's the
- 7:54Speaker 3: biggest issue. The threshold they have to get to under
- 7:58Speaker 3: the Local Literal Act, judge has to get to to
- 8:01Speaker 3: look at avoiding a result, and he got to that,
- 8:05Speaker 3: and that's that's a high threshold. So it's not it's
- 8:09Speaker 3: clearly there's a range of issues. We don't know them
- 8:11Speaker 3: all yet, but clearly there's a range of problems.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Do you recogmen, there's more electorates and more elections that
- 8:16Speaker 2: are affected by the sort of thing.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Oh well, no, I don't see evidence. We've got pretty
- 8:22Speaker 3: good systems and in this election there's been several challenges
- 8:26Speaker 3: to the district Court and quite a few of them
- 8:28Speaker 3: have been overturned because they hadn't met that three shold.
- 8:31Speaker 3: So I think there is a process for people to
- 8:33Speaker 3: go through. It probably needs in this select committee that
- 8:37Speaker 3: looked into the last local abody election, the previous local
- 8:40Speaker 3: body election, said thinks there are some changes that need
- 8:43Speaker 3: to be made the law to strengthen it and to
- 8:45Speaker 3: increase the penalties. But it does seem to be picking up.
- 8:49Speaker 3: That's a good thing about this is that a person
- 8:52Speaker 3: made the made the effort to go to make a
- 8:54Speaker 3: district court inquiry to position for that and.
- 8:57Speaker 8: Got a result.
- 8:58Speaker 3: So that's that's a good thing. There's a good thing
- 9:01Speaker 3: about our system.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Random mission. Well, I was going to say, you could
- 9:04Speaker 2: say it was caught, and you know, it was caught
- 9:07Speaker 2: and the result was thrown out and that shows in
- 9:09Speaker 2: a way that our system is working. But it was
- 9:11Speaker 2: only caught because Viv House here, who's the deputy chairman
- 9:14Speaker 2: of the board, actually had some concerns and brought the complaint.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So is the system really working or do we need
- 9:21Speaker 2: whistleblowers like Viv Well?
- 9:24Speaker 3: I think it does, it doesn't. We do need people.
- 9:26Speaker 3: Is your right to say we don't think this voting
- 9:29Speaker 3: process has been run correctly. It's not just about somebody
- 9:33Speaker 3: above that finding it out. So everybody has got to
- 9:35Speaker 3: write to do that in relation to their voter, in
- 9:38Speaker 3: relation to their who voted for them or who didn't
- 9:40Speaker 3: vote for them. They've got a right to get that.
- 9:42Speaker 3: There's there's problems with the timing. They have to get
- 9:44Speaker 3: it through very quickly, so that's a that's an issue
- 9:46Speaker 3: with timing. But it is that system does seem to
- 9:49Speaker 3: be does seem to have held up in this case,
- 9:51Speaker 3: although we now need to see the police investigations are underway.
- 9:56Speaker 3: What really matters is that if there has been malfis
- 10:00Speaker 3: what's happening here, people are actually held to account, and
- 10:02Speaker 3: that's the real nub of this. It might be harder
- 10:05Speaker 3: to prove, but I'm hopeful that the police are putting
- 10:08Speaker 3: good energy into the those investigations.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Julie Hagey, And of course I
- 10:13Speaker 2: mentioned of iv Housier. Hausier is on with Ever after
- 10:16Speaker 2: six o'clock to day to talk about what she found
- 10:19Speaker 2: and the process she went through, text through saying I've
- 10:21Speaker 2: just listened to your insults in regard to State House tenants.
- 10:24Speaker 2: Your comments were rude and ignorant and deliberately designed to
- 10:26Speaker 2: incite stereotypes and discrimination. I'm sorry, just do your gardens?
- 10:33Speaker 2: Is that too much to ask? It's five nineteen. We
- 10:35Speaker 2: have brand new ministry. It's called MSERT, needs a better name.
- 10:38Speaker 2: You can text me your ideas ninety two ninety two.
- 10:41Speaker 2: This is a big murder of the I'll tell you
- 10:44Speaker 2: more about this after the break. We're going to talk
- 10:46Speaker 2: to a FELLO from Transporting New Zealand about whether this
- 10:48Speaker 2: is a good move.
- 10:49Speaker 1: News and Views you trust to start your day in
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- 11:00Speaker 3: They'd be five.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Twenty one gone in other days when we're going to
- 11:03Speaker 2: have separate ministries for transport, the environment and housing, they're
- 11:06Speaker 2: all going to be merged into one mega ministry called MSERT,
- 11:10Speaker 2: the Ministry for Cities, Environment, Regions and Transport. So let's
- 11:14Speaker 2: talk to Don Callacy, who is the CEO of Transporting
- 11:17Speaker 2: New Zealand, and of course the new ministry will affect
- 11:19Speaker 2: his sector.
- 11:20Speaker 9: Hello Don, morning, Andrew.
- 11:23Speaker 2: Are you happy with this? News or is it or whatever.
- 11:29Speaker 9: I think that there is some sensibility to it. You know,
- 11:32Speaker 9: I think navigating across different ministries and agencies can be difficult,
- 11:37Speaker 9: So sometimes having less is small and ultimately transports one
- 11:43Speaker 9: part of a larger ecosystem, and so you know, taking
- 11:48Speaker 9: a more unified, connected approach does make some sense.
- 11:51Speaker 2: Okay, Well, transport has an awful lot of work in
- 11:54Speaker 2: front of it, the transition to electronic road user charges
- 11:57Speaker 2: and congestion pricing, and there's a whole lot of technical
- 12:00Speaker 2: work as well, and now it's being merged into one
- 12:03Speaker 2: big mega ministry where they're thinking about other stuff as well.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Are you worried that that sort of work might actually
- 12:08Speaker 2: not be done as efficiently as when you had a
- 12:11Speaker 2: dedicated ministry of transport.
- 12:14Speaker 9: I think there is a risk, and that is something
- 12:17Speaker 9: we're worried about. We've just sort of started to get
- 12:20Speaker 9: some momentum in those areas and we don't want to
- 12:24Speaker 9: lose that. But look, in terms of a mega ministry,
- 12:30Speaker 9: I had a quick look last night, and from what
- 12:32Speaker 9: I can gather, bringing those three ministries together, plus you've
- 12:39Speaker 9: got some from DIA, you're probably looking at about thirteen
- 12:42Speaker 9: hundred maybe forteen hundred people at the most. But if
- 12:46Speaker 9: you look at other agencies and ministries, mby's got about
- 12:51Speaker 9: six thousand people. MDPA has got about three thousand people.
- 12:55Speaker 9: So you know, big organizations like this there already exists,
- 13:00Speaker 9: is there, working to various degrees of success. It is
- 13:04Speaker 9: what it is, and we'll be doing everything we can
- 13:06Speaker 9: to help the new ministry.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Good Man, good commenttion. I thank you so much as
- 13:09Speaker 2: Don Calassy from transporting New Zealand's but he's quite right
- 13:14Speaker 2: about MB Okay. MB has a problem. It's a mega
- 13:18Speaker 2: ministry and nobody knows who's reporting to who. It's very messy.
- 13:21Speaker 2: So will this one be exactly the same as MB
- 13:24Speaker 2: even though it will be smaller. Remember, under this ministry
- 13:28Speaker 2: they've got RMA reform and transport reforms that we've just
- 13:31Speaker 2: heard about to get through. Do they have the capacity
- 13:33Speaker 2: to get that right? Here's the thing about though it's
- 13:35Speaker 2: not reducing the amount of ministers, nor can anyone tell
- 13:39Speaker 2: me that it automatically means a dramatic reduction in the
- 13:41Speaker 2: number of public servants and their salaries, which, of course
- 13:43Speaker 2: a lot of people are wanting right now to help
- 13:45Speaker 2: the books. As sir Brian Roach reported this week we
- 13:48Speaker 2: have a massive public service sixty two, six hundred and
- 13:51Speaker 2: fifty four staff in June of this year, compared to
- 13:54Speaker 2: sixty five six hundred ninety nine at the peak, which
- 13:57Speaker 2: is back in twenty twenty three. We've still got nearly
- 13:59Speaker 2: sixty three one thousand public servants. We've got forty three departments,
- 14:02Speaker 2: departmental agencies into departmental executive boards of various sizes and mandates,
- 14:07Speaker 2: all operating right now, more than most small advanced economies. Can.
- 14:12Speaker 2: We manage costs at the moment, Sir Brian says, no,
- 14:14Speaker 2: maintain critical capacity no, and deliver joined up services with
- 14:18Speaker 2: a system perspective.
- 14:19Speaker 7: No.
- 14:19Speaker 2: And here we are making an even bigger one. It
- 14:22Speaker 2: is five twenty four.
- 14:24Speaker 1: The early edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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- 14:30Speaker 2: These Talks it B five twenty six. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
- 14:34Speaker 2: we're broke. The half year the government fiscal update shows
- 14:37Speaker 2: we're still in debt and the debt is getting bigger.
- 14:40Speaker 2: So we're broke. Not enough money, everything's more expensive, so
- 14:43Speaker 2: it's off to the money lender before the bailiffs come
- 14:45Speaker 2: in and sell everything. Sounds like a lot of households
- 14:48Speaker 2: around me. Idealy, of course we'll be in surplus. That
- 14:51Speaker 2: will mean we have raised enough money to actually pay
- 14:53Speaker 2: our way. Then we'd have more money than costs. But
- 14:56Speaker 2: we act and the possibility of that happening has got
- 14:58Speaker 2: further away. So make no misas sake. Deficit is bad,
- 15:02Speaker 2: but surplus actually that's only just okay, that's how bad
- 15:06Speaker 2: we are, and we're getting more and more into debt.
- 15:08Speaker 2: The government has a debt to GDP ratio of forty
- 15:10Speaker 2: one point eight percent. It used to be twenty nine,
- 15:13Speaker 2: and it's forecast to rise to over forty six percent
- 15:16Speaker 2: before it starts going down. But you can just say
- 15:20Speaker 2: we're broke. Simple, easy, let's put another lens on it. Though.
- 15:24Speaker 2: The New Zealand government has posted a surplus seventeen times
- 15:27Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty. That's seventeen times and forty five years.
- 15:31Speaker 2: So the government has been broken, had to run off
- 15:34Speaker 2: to the money lenders sixty two percent of the time
- 15:37Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty, being broke as our normal. And if
- 15:41Speaker 2: I applied the surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances,
- 15:45Speaker 2: then I've been broke most of my adult life. I
- 15:46Speaker 2: mean hello, who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio
- 15:49Speaker 2: of ninety five percent in their lives. So if you
- 15:51Speaker 2: look at that at that way, it's not so bad.
- 15:55Speaker 2: And we're still on the right half of the indebted
- 15:57Speaker 2: nations list because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a
- 16:02Speaker 2: bit naive when we demand surpluses about just how hard
- 16:05Speaker 2: it is to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce
- 16:07Speaker 2: on Heather's show yesterday, he said government books are hard
- 16:10Speaker 2: to turn. Like a super tanker. As he said yesterday,
- 16:13Speaker 2: it can take up to a decade to go from
- 16:15Speaker 2: deficit to surplus. But some of us think, oh, a
- 16:18Speaker 2: few public service cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll
- 16:20Speaker 2: be tickety boot. Our fiscal crisis is far more fundamental
- 16:25Speaker 2: than that, and that the problem is we don't make
- 16:28Speaker 2: enough money in this world to fix it. We need
- 16:32Speaker 2: to make more money in the world so we have
- 16:34Speaker 2: more tax revenue, so we can then afford the good
- 16:37Speaker 2: stuff and the necessary stuff, and so we don't have
- 16:40Speaker 2: to have debt. So my question to you is, what
- 16:43Speaker 2: are you doing there standing here listening to this. Get
- 16:47Speaker 2: to work, make more money, said be five twenty nine.
- 16:50Speaker 2: So I got stuck into State House gardens and I
- 16:53Speaker 2: got insulted. Graham agrees with me, though agree with your
- 16:57Speaker 2: granddad moment. If someone is good enough to have a
- 16:59Speaker 2: house for you to live in state or private, then
- 17:01Speaker 2: it's a good form to look after it and the grounds.
- 17:04Speaker 2: And unfortunately, in this modern time, a thing called entitlement,
- 17:07Speaker 2: combined with laziness and arrogance, create a whole lot of
- 17:09Speaker 2: airheaded people who like living in their own mess and
- 17:12Speaker 2: expect everybody else to clean it up. Thank you, Graham,
- 17:14Speaker 2: And Taylor says Andrew, you can make even a muddy
- 17:16Speaker 2: pig look okay if you just wash it. My partner
- 17:18Speaker 2: and I live down a cul de sac driveway. We
- 17:21Speaker 2: get out and always tidy the shared gardens on the
- 17:23Speaker 2: shared driveway. It doesn't take a lot, makes everything look better.
- 17:26Speaker 2: We even water blasted the fence for everyone. People don't
- 17:30Speaker 2: seem to have much pride in their space, Thank you, Taylor.
- 17:32Speaker 2: And that's true. Still on the way, Barbara Edmonds from Labor,
- 17:36Speaker 2: how would she run the economy better? Well, there's a
- 17:39Speaker 2: big question.
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- 17:49Speaker 2: Well outside is prideful, but the fire is so delightful.
- 17:56Speaker 4: And since we've no place.
- 17:58Speaker 1: To go, it's snow.
- 18:00Speaker 10: Let it snow.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Let it still, well it does. We're sitting a cold
- 18:06Speaker 2: bunch of air coming over the country right now, but
- 18:08Speaker 2: I ain't gonna snow. I never know why we play
- 18:11Speaker 2: songs like this in New Zealand when it's summer, but
- 18:13Speaker 2: there we go. Let us know that it's no merry
- 18:14Speaker 2: Christmas to you all. So we've been a bit negative
- 18:17Speaker 2: of what with the fact that the country's broken, me
- 18:19Speaker 2: complaining about the state of state house cardens or by
- 18:21Speaker 2: the way Texas says regarding the state housing, perhaps a
- 18:24Speaker 2: competition could be instigated with a prize offered for the
- 18:27Speaker 2: best cap grounds with maybe a rent production. I think
- 18:30Speaker 2: that's great and I'd like to see the pictures. Here
- 18:32Speaker 2: is the best kept state house by a tenant, and
- 18:35Speaker 2: this person gets a month free win. How about that?
- 18:38Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, So I thought you might need
- 18:40Speaker 2: some good news here some good news. The Sir Colin
- 18:42Speaker 2: Giltrap Raceway, a world class karting facility in Auckland, is
- 18:46Speaker 2: officially opening The track builds on our carting heritage because
- 18:50Speaker 2: we're so good at the karting and the track will
- 18:52Speaker 2: be opened by six car six time IndyCar Chapian Scott
- 18:55Speaker 2: Dixon fifty nine career wins first QUI to win the
- 18:58Speaker 2: Indy five hundred. Scott Dixon is in with Heather. Here's
- 19:01Speaker 2: to Sir Colin Giltrap and his family with what they've
- 19:04Speaker 2: done in terms of giving back with their money, in
- 19:07Speaker 2: terms of facilities and helping people. You know, Liam Lawson
- 19:10Speaker 2: wouldn't be anywhere without Colin, So thank you so much
- 19:13Speaker 2: to the Giltrap family for what you've done and can't
- 19:15Speaker 2: wait to see this world class carting facility in Auckland.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Have more about It TV and said meanwhile, has released
- 19:21Speaker 2: what it's biggest shows were ever the year. Not surprisingly,
- 19:24Speaker 2: One News was its biggest. They reckon seventy percent of
- 19:28Speaker 2: all key we saw One News but at number two spot,
- 19:31Speaker 2: Shouldn't I Country Calendar, the country's longest running television series.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Both One News and Hundai Country Calendar have been in
- 19:39Speaker 2: the top three shows in all New Zealand television since
- 19:41Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. Because we like a bit of news and
- 19:44Speaker 2: we love the country Farmers, We love you. Oh and finally,
- 19:48Speaker 2: speaking of New Zealand, Wellington Avatar Avatar made in New Zealand.
- 19:53Speaker 2: The reviews are out and they're a bit lukewarm, fair
- 19:57Speaker 2: to say. The one I like the most was which
- 19:59Speaker 2: he knew sex interests can't save this gigantically dull hunger
- 20:04Speaker 2: of nonsense. It's twenty one to six news talks 'd
- 20:09Speaker 2: be in the country. We go Callen Proctor from Motago.
- 20:12Speaker 2: Good morning to you morning Andrew. If you need urgent
- 20:14Speaker 2: twenty four to seven care, You've got a new facility, Yeah,
- 20:18Speaker 2: we do.
- 20:19Speaker 11: A new service opens today here in Doneda. It's the
- 20:22Speaker 11: Daneedan Urgent Doctors and Accident Center. It will give locals
- 20:27Speaker 11: round the clock healthcare support and access. It's part of
- 20:31Speaker 11: the government one hundred and sixty four million dollar investment
- 20:33Speaker 11: to improve urgent and after our services. So Danieda Miyors
- 20:37Speaker 11: Sophie Barker is happy with this. She says the region's
- 20:39Speaker 11: growing population and student culture means these services are urgent,
- 20:44Speaker 11: and she says she knows from her own experience, especially
- 20:46Speaker 11: from her student days waiting in A and E, and
- 20:49Speaker 11: that people need shorter wait times to receive better care.
- 20:52Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather call it today?
- 20:55Speaker 11: Here early morning shower or two southwesterly sixteen the high.
- 20:59Speaker 2: And who can go clear shure with from christ Church?
- 21:01Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. You've got a new art exhibition
- 21:04Speaker 2: to visit.
- 21:05Speaker 12: Yeah, and we do, and it's bank See. We've got
- 21:07Speaker 12: more than one hundred and fifty original artworks from the
- 21:10Speaker 12: world famous street artist on display over summer at Tipei
- 21:13Speaker 12: Convention Center here in christ Church. The exhibit has traveled
- 21:17Speaker 12: to more than twenty cities, but this is the first
- 21:20Speaker 12: time it's come to the South Island. Curator and producer
- 21:24Speaker 12: Michelle Borschma says the original flower thrower artwork will be
- 21:29Speaker 12: on show. There's also some installations that provide insight into
- 21:33Speaker 12: Banksy's creative process. As a hub for street art, christ
- 21:38Speaker 12: Church is said to be the best city to host
- 21:40Speaker 12: a displayed like this. The venue has made it one
- 21:43Speaker 12: of the best versions they've done on the tour. Borschmar
- 21:46Speaker 12: says to have an over of one artist in one
- 21:50Speaker 12: space is very unique and this is what they would
- 21:53Speaker 12: consider a museum grade exhibition on tour.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Now, it's quite good. I went and I bought a
- 21:57Speaker 2: T shirt when it was in Auckland. Now, how do
- 21:59Speaker 2: you weather a little bit more like winter here?
- 22:02Speaker 12: This morning We've got Shaoer's thundery bit of hail about
- 22:05Speaker 12: then turning to a heavier rain. Some southwesterlies will ease
- 22:09Speaker 12: by this evening. The high only seventeen.
- 22:12Speaker 2: Not t shirt weather Maxtell from Wellington, Good morning to
- 22:15Speaker 2: you morning. VIC University is officially AI friendly.
- 22:19Speaker 12: Yeah.
- 22:20Speaker 8: This is the annual academic ranking of world universities, also
- 22:24Speaker 8: known as the Shanghai Ranking, which has put Victoria in
- 22:28Speaker 8: the top fifty in terms of being AI friendly of
- 22:31Speaker 8: graduates being ready to work in or with AI A
- 22:35Speaker 8: Singaporean institute number one, a Chinese Uni two, Toronto three.
- 22:39Speaker 8: Apparently Vick has been making a concerted push in the
- 22:42Speaker 8: past few years to focus on AI, make sure it's
- 22:45Speaker 8: incorporated into different studies. One tech expert tolus. Companies often
- 22:49Speaker 8: have to look offshore for expertise, but that's certainly been
- 22:53Speaker 8: growing in the capital. A lot of people in the
- 22:55Speaker 8: public sector using AI more and more to positive and
- 22:58Speaker 8: negative effect. Newly created roles as well in the tertiary
- 23:02Speaker 8: sector in this country is having to respond to that demand.
- 23:06Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather.
- 23:08Speaker 8: Another wet day with stronger southerly so cool fifteen the hay.
- 23:12Speaker 2: And I thank you. Wendy Pittrick now joins me from
- 23:14Speaker 2: AUKLANDHALLO Wendy for inner. Oh we're talking about rubbish collection.
- 23:18Speaker 7: Oh, I know it's an exciting topic, isn't it. Rubbish
- 23:20Speaker 7: Auckland a council is trashing a plan to trial a
- 23:23Speaker 7: fortnightly rubbish collection, but the idea hasn't been removed from
- 23:26Speaker 7: the picture now. The trial would have included ten thousand
- 23:29Speaker 7: households in Tiata two Peninsula, Palma, Tamakie, Clinton Park and Weymouth.
- 23:35Speaker 7: Of the more than five thousand submissions, seventy eight percent
- 23:38Speaker 7: actually opposed trialing a fortnightly rubbish collection. Councilor Daniel Newman
- 23:43Speaker 7: says the possibility of fortnite collection lives on in the
- 23:45Speaker 7: current waste management minimization plan. He says he and other
- 23:49Speaker 7: counselors will try to permanently move the region to a
- 23:51Speaker 7: weekly service next year. So I guess we'll just have
- 23:54Speaker 7: to wait.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Do you fill your rubbish bin every week?
- 23:56Speaker 7: Well? I yes, I do.
- 23:58Speaker 2: Actually no, we're about free court. We're about seventy five percent.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Sometimes We've got a low rubbish week where it's only fifty,
- 24:04Speaker 2: but other times we're packed, I know, so every fortnight
- 24:07Speaker 2: I think we'd be spilling out.
- 24:08Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I admire people that do manage to
- 24:11Speaker 7: have hardly any rubbish. So we do try.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Orkan's weather.
- 24:14Speaker 7: Oh wow, looking at a few cloudy periods with a
- 24:16Speaker 7: few showers today, mainly in the morning, though southwesterlyis will
- 24:20Speaker 7: be strong in the afternoon. Heading for twenty degrees and.
- 24:22Speaker 2: I thank you. It is seventeen minutes to six still
- 24:24Speaker 2: to come. Before six o'clock. We are talking with Barbara Edmunds,
- 24:27Speaker 2: of course, the finance spokesperson for the Labor Party, about
- 24:31Speaker 2: what she would do differently. Could she really do anything differently?
- 24:34Speaker 2: Craig sent me a text, Andrew, why doesn't Barbara Edmonds
- 24:37Speaker 2: also take responsibility for our government running deficits. She needs
- 24:40Speaker 2: to remember the borrowing and spending that Labor did when
- 24:42Speaker 2: they were in government. They spent like drunken sailors. And
- 24:45Speaker 2: this is also the recent our economy is in such
- 24:47Speaker 2: a state. And then there's four exclamation marks. But as
- 24:51Speaker 2: I put it out, Craig, in the last forty five years,
- 24:53Speaker 2: who only ever had seventeen surpluses. We've always been spending
- 24:57Speaker 2: like drunken sailors. It's just that labour's bit more anyway.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Barbara is here very shortly, but nixt Gavin Gray from
- 25:04Speaker 2: the UK.
- 25:07Speaker 1: International correspondence with Insigne Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
- 25:11Speaker 1: New Zealand business.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Yes, it's now forteen minutes to sixth to the UK
- 25:17Speaker 2: with Gavin greg Good morning to you hither and so
- 25:20Speaker 2: what's happened to the bloke who uses car as a
- 25:22Speaker 2: whip and he plowed into more than one hundred and
- 25:24Speaker 2: thirty people at Liverpool's football club's victory parade.
- 25:28Speaker 4: Yes, back in twenty six of May. This was a
- 25:31Speaker 4: fifty four year old former Royal Marine was sitting in
- 25:35Speaker 4: doc and showed no emotion. Was He was sentenced and
- 25:38Speaker 4: jailed for twenty one years and six months. He plowed
- 25:41Speaker 4: his vehicle into more than one hundred and thirty people
- 25:44Speaker 4: at the victory parade. He admitted thirty one charges, including
- 25:48Speaker 4: causing grievous bodily harm with intent and dangerous driving and
- 25:53Speaker 4: a fray. The victims ranged from a six month old
- 25:56Speaker 4: baby to a seventy seven year old woman. Now, the
- 25:59Speaker 4: judge and the caught her that the married father of
- 26:01Speaker 4: three was traveling into the city center to collect friends
- 26:04Speaker 4: from that parade when he lost his temper and then
- 26:09Speaker 4: drove his forward Galaxy car directly into supporters dashcom footage
- 26:14Speaker 4: was played in court. It was horrendous. It accelerated down
- 26:17Speaker 4: Water Street, which had been closed for traffic, and in
- 26:20Speaker 4: the footage it can be heard shouting move, move and
- 26:22Speaker 4: swearing at the crowd, including after he hit a ten
- 26:26Speaker 4: year old girl who when no defects in the car.
- 26:29Speaker 4: He was not under the influence of drink or drugs
- 26:31Speaker 4: and only recently changed his plea.
- 26:33Speaker 2: So he didn't get angry at the Liverpool team, did he?
- 26:37Speaker 2: He got angry just because the parade was in his way.
- 26:41Speaker 4: I just think, you know, he just that was never
- 26:44Speaker 4: really clearly explained in the court. He just got angry
- 26:47Speaker 4: and the red miss came down and then for some
- 26:49Speaker 4: reason cloud into the crowd.
- 26:51Speaker 2: Oh right, speaking of angry Donald Trump versus the BBC.
- 26:55Speaker 4: Yes, this could be an expensive few months for the BBC.
- 27:00Speaker 4: He has now launched a five billion US dollar so
- 27:04Speaker 4: that's roughly eight billion New Zealand dollar lawsuit filed by
- 27:08Speaker 4: him because of an edit over his speech January twenty
- 27:12Speaker 4: twenty one. Now that was ahead of the twenty twenty
- 27:16Speaker 4: four US election, and it was on the day that
- 27:20Speaker 4: there were riots at the US Capitol. So in full,
- 27:23Speaker 4: he basically says, look, they cheated the BBC. A change
- 27:28Speaker 4: the words that came out of his mouth. What came
- 27:30Speaker 4: out of his mouth Andrew was quote, We're going to
- 27:32Speaker 4: walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer
- 27:35Speaker 4: on our brave senators and congressmen and women. Fifty minutes
- 27:39Speaker 4: later he said, and we fight, We fight like hell.
- 27:42Speaker 4: But the Panorama documentary program by the BBC showed a
- 27:45Speaker 4: clip with him which connected the two in this way.
- 27:48Speaker 4: It said We're going to walk down to the Capitol,
- 27:50Speaker 4: I'll be there with you, and we fight. We fight
- 27:52Speaker 4: like hell, making it seem like he was, of course
- 27:55Speaker 4: promoting or inviting people to fight, which he says that
- 27:59Speaker 4: absolutely is not his intention. So this very expensive lawsuit,
- 28:03Speaker 4: the BBC say they will defend. They said there was
- 28:06Speaker 4: no malice in the edit and that he was reelected
- 28:09Speaker 4: shortly after. They had a whole load of excuses. We'll
- 28:12Speaker 4: wait to see where this leaves for the BBC.
- 28:14Speaker 2: They have to defend it. It's their entire name and honor,
- 28:16Speaker 2: and I Thankgavin Gray from the UK. By the way,
- 28:19Speaker 2: I just want to mention the couple in the dash
- 28:21Speaker 2: cam footage out of Bandai who were killed trying to
- 28:24Speaker 2: fight off the Bondai shooter. They've been identified as Boris
- 28:27Speaker 2: and Sofia German. The footage you may have seen it
- 28:30Speaker 2: shows the moment that Boris tackled the shooter, said Akram
- 28:33Speaker 2: wrestled the gun from him, but it was all for
- 28:35Speaker 2: nothing because the second gunman killed Boris and Sofia in
- 28:39Speaker 2: cold blood. We don't have one hero on this day.
- 28:42Speaker 2: We've certainly have three, and we probably have more. It
- 28:44Speaker 2: is now ten to.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Six News Talk Siddy.
- 28:48Speaker 2: All right, We've got the treasuries half year scorecard yesterday.
- 28:52Speaker 2: It's not pretty. The government's books are worse than expected.
- 28:55Speaker 2: The surplus timeline has been pushed back a bit to
- 28:58Speaker 2: twenty nine thirty. That's back a year. The deficit blows
- 29:01Speaker 2: out to nearly fourteen billion dollars, one point eight billion
- 29:05Speaker 2: worse than back in May. So Nichola Wis was quick
- 29:08Speaker 2: to defend herself.
- 29:08Speaker 13: We had the receipts and unfortunately for labor having opposed
- 29:14Speaker 13: every saving that we have delivered. They cannot take a
- 29:17Speaker 13: position of responsible fiscal management.
- 29:20Speaker 2: So Labor's economics spokesperson Barbara Vans is with us. Hello Barbara,
- 29:25Speaker 2: good morning Andrew. What do you say to what Nicholas said?
- 29:28Speaker 5: Oh, of course she's attacking Labor. She's also attacking the
- 29:32Speaker 5: taxpayer union, who also said the books have gotten worse.
- 29:36Speaker 5: The alternative is is she would have to defend her books.
- 29:39Speaker 5: And as you've said, what can we already know? Christopher
- 29:42Speaker 5: Luxe and Nicholas have made things harder?
- 29:45Speaker 2: Would you have made things better?
- 29:49Speaker 5: Absolutely? If you looked at what we had in the
- 29:52Speaker 5: pre election fiscal updates, we would have been in surplus
- 29:55Speaker 5: in twenty six twenty seven. But the books don't lie.
- 29:58Speaker 5: I mean ultimately, unemployed mom is forecast to get worse.
- 30:02Speaker 5: Growth as weaker than expected, and food prices continue to
- 30:06Speaker 5: go up, you know, basics like bread is fifty three
- 30:09Speaker 5: percent higher over the last year.
- 30:11Speaker 2: And what would you as a government do to actually
- 30:13Speaker 2: change that? Would you cut spending? How would you cut spending?
- 30:16Speaker 2: Would you cut spending?
- 30:18Speaker 5: Well, ultimately, we told them that the tax cuts were unaffordable.
- 30:22Speaker 5: In the twenty three election, also it's all about choices.
- 30:26Speaker 5: They've decided to spend money on property speculator.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Hold on, holda notice. Barbara I said, would you cut
- 30:32Speaker 2: spending and then you started talking about the tax cuts,
- 30:34Speaker 2: which is about tax we'll get onto that later. Would
- 30:36Speaker 2: you reduce the amount that that any government, if you
- 30:39Speaker 2: were running it spends.
- 30:42Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what the forecast did show the pre
- 30:45Speaker 5: Food twenty twenty three. We'd also gone through a consolidation
- 30:49Speaker 5: as well.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Okay, so you've met it already. Of course, the tax cuts,
- 30:52Speaker 2: the moving of the thresholds, you obviously would not have
- 30:55Speaker 2: done that, So that means you would have had higher
- 30:58Speaker 2: taxes than national currently has. Would you have increased taxes?
- 31:03Speaker 5: We would have kept on the same track that we
- 31:05Speaker 5: had had in twenty twenty three. That was our plan
- 31:08Speaker 5: back at the election. Ultimately, it all comes down to choices,
- 31:12Speaker 5: and they've chosen to give funding to things that don't
- 31:17Speaker 5: help everyday kiwis like with the cost of living.
- 31:21Speaker 2: Okay. In the high food the cost of superannuation payments
- 31:23Speaker 2: is projected to increase from twenty four point eight billion
- 31:26Speaker 2: in twenty five twenty six to thirty point nine billion
- 31:29Speaker 2: and twenty nine thirty. All economists say this is the
- 31:31Speaker 2: biggest spending driver. Would you cut super.
- 31:35Speaker 5: No, We've said we'd keep it at sixty five, and
- 31:38Speaker 5: that's something that every party would need to take to
- 31:41Speaker 5: the election as well. New Zealanders want to be able
- 31:45Speaker 5: to plan for their retirement. Of course, obviously superannuation is
- 31:48Speaker 5: part of that. Housing as part of that, qui saver,
- 31:51Speaker 5: as part of that.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Okay, well, how about this one, Working for families tax credits.
- 31:56Speaker 2: If you abolish those, you could save three billion in
- 31:58Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty six, or nearly fifteen billion over
- 32:01Speaker 2: the forecast period. So would you cut working for families
- 32:04Speaker 2: tax credits?
- 32:06Speaker 5: No, because we know right now it's really difficult for
- 32:08Speaker 5: a lot of families and they depend on their weekly
- 32:12Speaker 5: Working for families will be work working for families every week.
- 32:16Speaker 2: Okay, So how exactly would you reduce the cost of living,
- 32:20Speaker 2: which is about the only meta you've said you do
- 32:22Speaker 2: so far. How would you do that?
- 32:25Speaker 5: So we'll set out much more of our cost of
- 32:27Speaker 5: living plan and next year as part of the election.
- 32:30Speaker 5: But we're also so far already announced, for example, that
- 32:34Speaker 5: we would look at providing three free GP visits for
- 32:37Speaker 5: people coming out all.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Right, thank you, Barbara. Barbara Edmonds is ladies for that spokesperson.
- 32:41Speaker 2: And this is new stalks.
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- 32:55Speaker 2: Albert Reckons. No substance in what are you saying? Just slogans?
- 32:58Speaker 2: I agree. I asked this some quite specific questions, no answers.
- 33:00Speaker 10: Hello, Heather, how about how about I turn on that
- 33:04Speaker 10: microphone there?
- 33:05Speaker 2: You're getting pretty flash at this job. Forgot the basics,
- 33:10Speaker 2: but you know what it is.
- 33:11Speaker 10: It's because we all have to give ourselves, cut ourselves
- 33:13Speaker 10: a little bit of slack. This is the Wednesday before Christmas.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Like you've got three more days to work. Yeah, you're starting.
- 33:21Speaker 10: You don't want to be winding down, but your body's
- 33:23Speaker 10: running out.
- 33:23Speaker 2: And then a house Barbara, and she said, what will
- 33:25Speaker 2: the announce some stuff close into the election, And I thought,
- 33:27Speaker 2: I wought do matter?
- 33:28Speaker 10: Is this bad has frustrated to you?
- 33:29Speaker 2: Has she?
- 33:30Speaker 7: Oh?
- 33:30Speaker 2: Yes, of course. Yeah.
- 33:31Speaker 10: Well they're between a rock and a hard place, aren't they,
- 33:33Speaker 10: Because they have absolutely no economic credibility, but they have
- 33:37Speaker 10: and we have absolutely no money, but they want to spend.
- 33:40Speaker 2: We have no money and this matter, whether it's National
- 33:42Speaker 2: or Labor, we haven't. As I told you this morning,
- 33:44Speaker 2: We've only had seventeen services.
- 33:47Speaker 10: He is an outrageous idea for you. Do you think
- 33:50Speaker 10: Nikola Willis should have been a Labor Party finance minister?
- 33:53Speaker 10: She could be anybody be quite credible as a Labor
- 33:56Speaker 10: Party final Piari as well.
- 33:57Speaker 2: She's a bit flannelly as.
- 33:59Speaker 10: Well, loves to spend.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Sorry, very good. All right here that's next. My thanks
- 34:04Speaker 2: to producer Kenzie. Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. By about
- 34:07Speaker 2: now this morning, thought i'd write it, Chris Smash, how
- 34:10Speaker 2: quickly can you build this?
- 34:12Speaker 7: Morment? Thank be.
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