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Rugby Direct - Episode 190 · Rugby Direct

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  Speaker 2: Welcome into Rugby Direct powered by Excess Solutions, celebrating twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years in business. Alli get Smith with me Liam Napier.
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  Speaker 2: We're in Edinburgh and it's wonderful to be back here,
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  Speaker 2: first time back in three years for both the All Blacksbert,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps more importantly ourselves, and wonderful city to get around
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  Speaker 2: first and foremost before we get into some rugby. There
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  Speaker 2: is a real sense of magic and just history to
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  Speaker 2: when you come to Edinburgh, isn't there it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a magic place, I think, one of the real
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  Speaker 3: hidden gems of Europe. Not necessarily a hidden gym, but
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  Speaker 3: it's not, I guess, as well known as some of
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  Speaker 3: the bigger European city is very beautiful, a lot of charm,
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  Speaker 3: good people. We enjoyed a We're Hotter this week which
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  Speaker 3: was beautiful, and you've enjoyed my terrible Scottish impressions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say enjoyed. It would be one
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  Speaker 2: word for it. At one point Lea was threatened to
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  Speaker 2: do this entire podcast and there's Scottish accent, which.
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  Speaker 3: Would have been a real We decided it would have
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  Speaker 3: been cultural appropriation. Yes, probably bordering on racism, so we'll
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  Speaker 3: sidestep that for a now. But who knows that the
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  Speaker 3: podcast is young?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Hot toodied to try and sort my laryngitis out.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's aryngitis. Lost my voice after the commentary
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  Speaker 2: on the weekends. But that's been good and through the
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  Speaker 2: many benefits of climate change, it has been actually quite warm,
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  Speaker 2: tropical this week, including today, which is definitely the warm
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  Speaker 2: day of the week and it's about fifteen sixteen degrees
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  Speaker 2: mid afternoon on a Thursday. So yeah, it's been a
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  Speaker 2: great weekend for the All Blacks Leam. I guess they
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  Speaker 2: go into this match at Murrayfield, you know, having never
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  Speaker 2: lost to Scotland. There is the weight of history on
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  Speaker 2: them in many ways, but they also haven't played Scotland
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  Speaker 2: that much. They've only played them twice in the last
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  Speaker 2: decade twenty twenty two and twenty seventeen. The last trip
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  Speaker 2: before that was twenty fourteen, so they obviously haven't been
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  Speaker 2: to New Zealand in that time either Scotland, so games
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  Speaker 2: against them have been few and far between. And it
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  Speaker 2: was interesting to hear before we get into the team
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  Speaker 2: and the one name by Scott Robinson, Boden Barrett sort
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  Speaker 2: of talk about how he had to almost explain to
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  Speaker 2: some of the players perhaps what they'll expect on Saturday
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  Speaker 2: afternoon local time. He's played them three times, which is
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  Speaker 2: the most of anyone in the current All Blacks team.
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  Speaker 2: He started against them twice. He's the only All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: member to do so be his third start on the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: So there's all sorts of history there, but for the
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  Speaker 2: All Blacks it for a lot of these players a
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  Speaker 2: sense of the unknown.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And I was actually fortunate enough to
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  Speaker 3: be there for both those games and it was real
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  Speaker 3: knife edge stuff. Bill Blacks Scotland scored twenty three unanswered
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  Speaker 3: points in twenty twenty two. Bill Blacks last visit to
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  Speaker 3: Murrayfield and they're really on the rack and they came
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  Speaker 3: over the top to win that game. M Foss wasn't
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  Speaker 3: charged in and in twenty seventeen, it was even tighter
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  Speaker 3: Boden Barrett's he talked about it today, but he had
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  Speaker 3: to pull off a match saving tackle and the dying
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  Speaker 3: stages on Stuart Hog in the corner a look like
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Hog was gone for all money and Boden Barrett
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  Speaker 3: just pushed them out to preserve that record that now
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  Speaker 3: stands has gone on to be one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: years thirty two matches, which includes two draws, but it
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  Speaker 3: is a record that is few and far between. I
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  Speaker 3: think the All Blacks are nineteen matches unbeaten at Murrayfield,
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  Speaker 3: which is the second current longest single stadium unbeaten record
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  Speaker 3: to Eden Park fifty two matches. But we've seen a
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  Speaker 3: lot of historic first in recent times for the All Blacks,
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  Speaker 3: haven't we The first home series lost to Ireland, the
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  Speaker 3: first home and away losses to Argentina, the heaviest defeat
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  Speaker 3: in history to the Spring Boks. And it's a massive
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  Speaker 3: occasion around Murrayfield this week, one hundred years that they
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  Speaker 3: are celebrating. I'm sure there'll be something special in the
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  Speaker 3: works there, so it'll be a big occasion and the
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  Speaker 3: All Blacks are clearly on edge, and they paid Scotland
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  Speaker 3: due respect by naming their strongest available team.
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  Speaker 2: They have and so let's get into that team. Perhaps
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  Speaker 2: not many surprises from the All Blacks leicestifying on Nook
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  Speaker 2: who starts at center with no Jordi Barrett. Josh Loaul
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  Speaker 2: comes into the second row with no Scott Barrett and
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  Speaker 2: then Wallace the TV starts on the blindside flank in
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  Speaker 2: place of Simon Parker. No room for him in the
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  Speaker 2: twenty three are all together? Any surprises for you there
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  Speaker 2: from the side of Scott Robinson's.
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  Speaker 3: Name, not really. I thought there might be one tweak
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  Speaker 3: at blindside flanker, but wasn't sure who that would be.
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  Speaker 3: I do like the fact that Wallace TT comes into
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  Speaker 3: the mix at blindside flanker. I think his favorite position
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  Speaker 3: is number eight, but we've seen Peter Lukey emerge there
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  Speaker 3: and Walla TT did make his mark as world right
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  Speaker 3: Breakthrough Player of the Year last season. I think when
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  Speaker 3: you stop and look at that blindside row, I think
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  Speaker 3: Simon Parker has probably delivered largely from a defensive perspective,
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  Speaker 3: but hasn't brought the ball carrying punch that the All
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  Speaker 3: Blacks are looking for. He was very quiet against Ireland
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  Speaker 3: in Chicago, and so tt I think delivers on the
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  Speaker 3: ball carrying front, but probably has work to do on
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  Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. So if we just
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  Speaker 3: stop and look at the blindside position as a whole,
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  Speaker 3: do you think the All Blacks are keeping Simon Parker
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  Speaker 3: back for a tight physical test against England or is
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  Speaker 3: it very much Satiti's to grab this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: I think lim there there is a giment he made
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  Speaker 2: that Stititi could grab the jersey this weekend. It's not
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  Speaker 2: out of the realms of possibility. We saw him play
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  Speaker 2: a lot there last year at blind Side when he
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  Speaker 2: first came into the All Blacks in Cape Town. He
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  Speaker 2: started there, he had it throughout the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: year and then moved into number eight late on the
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  Speaker 2: end of the year two. And then also this year,
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  Speaker 2: And I've said a couple of times on this podcast
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  Speaker 2: that I don't think he's quite reached the heights of
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  Speaker 2: last year through those injuries and maybe came back a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too early from the injuries that he did have.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's there for the taking for him.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't rule out Simon Parker if I'm playing at Twickenham.
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  Speaker 2: He brings those that skill set you mentioned, and you
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  Speaker 2: know it's going to be a dogged game. You would
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  Speaker 2: suspected Twickenham you're going to need that tackle. You know
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to tackle whatever comes at him, so very
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  Speaker 2: well switch around again next week. So look, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a big opportunity for TT because you look at
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  Speaker 2: their loose Ford trio Lucky sa Vegas, the TV has
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  Speaker 2: a real you know, not only the All Blacks of
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  Speaker 2: the future, the loose Ford trio, but of the out
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  Speaker 2: and it could be their combination for the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. But you know, I think there's still a
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  Speaker 2: question mark. I think it's a tit whether he is
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  Speaker 2: at full fitness and whether he could probably use a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a super ruggie preseason to get him up
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  Speaker 2: to speed again. So I wouldn't rule that Parker from
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  Speaker 2: being an immediate switch next week. The concern I do
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  Speaker 2: have around this All Blacks team is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they have sort of robbed the bench a little bit
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  Speaker 2: to bolster their starting side.
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  Speaker 3: What do you say, rob Peter to pay Paul exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: That's the worry I do have, because they found a
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  Speaker 2: combination that worked for them really well. Last week off
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  Speaker 2: the bench now firing and Nook, you played longer minutes
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  Speaker 2: than you would expect of a bench player. So to
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  Speaker 2: Josh Lord Wallast had to come on the first spell
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  Speaker 2: for Parker when you want with Hia. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: quite like a you know, here's the changes around the
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  Speaker 2: fifty five minute mark that will roll out. But I
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  Speaker 2: think they struck on something last week and then this
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  Speaker 2: week they go back and change it and Saddi's into
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  Speaker 2: the starting side, Karef he comes on the bench, Billy
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  Speaker 2: Proctor comes in to cover midfield. So this bench to
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  Speaker 2: me doesn't look as strong as it was last week.
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  Speaker 2: You've still got you gonna think the front row is
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  Speaker 2: very dynamic. You've got Sam Dowry who can add a
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  Speaker 2: bit of punch in the second row as well. But
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  Speaker 2: I would spect that just looking at the two benches
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  Speaker 2: on previous weeks, you'd have to give the Chicago bench
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  Speaker 2: the tech versus what we're potentially getting out of this
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  Speaker 2: week's at Murrayfield.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, it felt like the All Blacks finally struck
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  Speaker 3: gold with their bench and that's what really propelled them
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  Speaker 3: over Ireland and allowed them to play the rugby that
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  Speaker 3: they want to play, you know, up tempo, big ball carrying,
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  Speaker 3: using the width off floating. That's the type of rugby
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  Speaker 3: this All Black team is aspiring to play in it.
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  Speaker 3: And that that punch really did come from the bench.
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  Speaker 3: And so not only with Satisi going to the starting team,
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  Speaker 3: but also fighting a Nuku. There's those were two of
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  Speaker 3: your most influential players last week and they're not on
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  Speaker 3: the bench. And yeah, I think, uh that the onus
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  Speaker 3: is on the All Black spense to try and bring
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  Speaker 3: that same punch, and it really does impress on the
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  Speaker 3: All Blacks the need to start well because if they
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  Speaker 3: fall behind, I don't have the same confidence in that bench.
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  Speaker 3: And I look at a guy like Billy Proctor as well.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that selection is a bit of a reward.
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  Speaker 3: I want to you're all our next guy. I want
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  Speaker 3: to keep you involved. I feel like Rikowan, he's probably
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  Speaker 3: a better bench impact type player. He's a bigger body,
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  Speaker 3: it's physical. Yeah, he hasn't been playing overly well, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much impact Billy Procter's going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to bring. In Carefe as well. I think
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  Speaker 3: has being found out to a certain degree there are
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  Speaker 3: always question marks about his size. Those two guys could
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  Speaker 3: prove me wrong. They might come on and Chrief. He
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  Speaker 3: might have a massive impact at the breakdown. Proctor, could
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  Speaker 3: you know, bring his skill set when that the game
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  Speaker 3: opens up a little bit. But it does look like
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  Speaker 3: a deep powered bench. So if Scotland can start well
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  Speaker 3: and get a lead on, you know, and bride the occasion,
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  Speaker 3: they could bear a red hot chance. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, hundredth anniversary of murray Field being celebrated,
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  Speaker 2: the All Blacks will be in white kit on the
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  Speaker 2: weekends and Scotland and their home a dark blue a
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  Speaker 2: commemorative a jersey they are wearing for this fixture. Just
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  Speaker 2: looking at who's not so do you mention Rico Jwani there,
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  Speaker 2: Luke Jacobson Sevresa going to go to the All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: fifteen for the game against England A and Bath this week.
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  Speaker 2: Those two players and Josh Berrow who's been with the
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  Speaker 2: squad for the better part of the week also going
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  Speaker 2: back to join the All Blacks fifteen. I'm a little
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  Speaker 2: bit surprised they haven't seen a few more players now.
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  Speaker 2: I guess you've got to have continencies around injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Ruben Love is an obvious guy that has barely played
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  Speaker 3: all year.
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  Speaker 2: Antonine at Brown as well as you know clearly you
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  Speaker 2: look at the loose the midfield combinations, he's not there
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  Speaker 2: at the moment. He's well down the rung so need
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  Speaker 2: some game time. A little bit surprising there that they
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  Speaker 2: haven't perhaps gone and sent a people fumal players over.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Angeline and Brown, I can kind of understand because
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  Speaker 3: you're already down one midfielder, so it's a bit of
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  Speaker 3: a risk. But Ruben Love, even if fin Lake Christie
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  Speaker 3: to a degree, these guys aren't playing and they're going
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  Speaker 3: to benefit from from playing, and you've got that team
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  Speaker 3: matter of hours away on a train or a flight.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I am surprised at that there's only a
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  Speaker 3: couple there. I do just want to touch on Wallace
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  Speaker 3: to Tit as well. It's not necessarily a new story,
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  Speaker 3: is it, but there's some real symmetry to it coming
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  Speaker 3: in to start this week in Scotland. It's a place
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  Speaker 3: where his father, Simos Tit played in the early two
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  Speaker 3: thousands for the Border Club, and there was Wallace retold
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  Speaker 3: the story today about his mother having to return to
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  Speaker 3: Samoa because her father was sick and Wallace was meant
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  Speaker 3: to be born in Scotland but was born in Samoa.
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  Speaker 3: They then returned to Scotland and Wallace was named after
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  Speaker 3: William Wallace, of course made famous through the movie Bravehearts,
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  Speaker 3: but the Scottish war leader who helped drive out the
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  Speaker 3: English and gain some form of independence because he loved
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  Speaker 3: Brave Hearts. So it was obviously a nice story, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: And Wallace talked about doing the tour of Edinburgh Castle
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  Speaker 3: and the connection. That's his first time back here since
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  Speaker 3: coming back as a young lad, so I guess he'll
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  Speaker 3: be hoping to be the complete opposite of a Scottish
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  Speaker 3: war hero this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lead the All Blacks in to battle and continue
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  Speaker 2: that unbeaten record as well, just on Scotland naming there,
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  Speaker 2: So a couple of surprises with them. No Duhan thunder
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  Speaker 2: Moeuver on the wing. A little bit of a surprise there.
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  Speaker 2: They've got very good Darcy Graham on one wing, Kyle
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  Speaker 2: Stain on the other. Took a lot to their captain
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  Speaker 2: at second five. No Xander Fagason as well out through injury,
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  Speaker 2: the same injury or one of the injuries that kept
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  Speaker 2: him out of British Irrish Lions two in the midyear
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  Speaker 2: series as well. It was hoped he might recover in
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  Speaker 2: time for this game, but not to be Ki bourn
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  Speaker 2: or New Zealand born Tom Jordan on the bench in
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  Speaker 2: a six to two bench split the year as well. Look,
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  Speaker 2: they've got some enterprising backs Scotland and you look at
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  Speaker 2: that combination. Fin Russell at ten can do anything with
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  Speaker 2: the way that he plays. So if they get the ball,
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  Speaker 2: as Mike question, because I suspect you looking at the
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  Speaker 2: front rows and the All Blacks pack, they should have
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  Speaker 2: the better of the Scottish back But if they can
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  Speaker 2: gain parity there at the very least, Scotland the likes
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  Speaker 2: of Russell and tweet Alto and Darcy Graham and Kinghorn
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  Speaker 2: to have a real sale on Saturday afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the All Blacks will definitely come for
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  Speaker 3: them up front, particularly at the scrum. We saw them.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen them weaponize it against most opposition probably other
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  Speaker 3: than the spring Box. This year. They really started to
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  Speaker 3: turn the screws and that helped them turn the tide
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  Speaker 3: against Ireland last week. So that'll be a real focal
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  Speaker 3: platform I think for the All Blacks. Hugh Jones a
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  Speaker 3: big out for Scotland, very classy center, so a big
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  Speaker 3: loss for them there. Staying on the wing, I think
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  Speaker 3: he's an underrated presence. Hutchinson. Just reading Charlie Phoenix Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Morgan sorry from well known English rugby you know, got
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  Speaker 3: big raps on him saying he's one of the best
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  Speaker 3: GameLine ball players in the English Premiership for Northampton, so
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see how he goes. My question to you
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  Speaker 3: is there's been a lot made and it's very true
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  Speaker 3: that Scotland's very different Northern Hemisphere team, particularly a rustle
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  Speaker 3: at ten. They use the ball, they attack, they're quite
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  Speaker 3: innovative and dynamic. But is there a risk that that
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  Speaker 3: plays into All Back's hands as well that's how they
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  Speaker 3: want to play.
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  Speaker 2: Quite possibly, we've seen the All Blacks really be pressured
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  Speaker 2: when they put under aerial attack this year and the
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  Speaker 2: fact that they that Scotland are more likely to run
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  Speaker 2: at the All Blacks there's likely to be more broken
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  Speaker 2: space opportunities then that could well play into the All
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  Speaker 2: Black's hands. We haven't seen the All Blacks at their
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  Speaker 2: best on attack probably for the last year, eighteen months
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  Speaker 2: or so they've had moments. There's good moments against Ireland,
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  Speaker 2: but more often than not, teams have realized that the
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  Speaker 2: way to putting pressure under them is bombarding the early
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  Speaker 2: aerial attack and just stunting some of those opportunities the
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  Speaker 2: All Blacks have. So I could play into the All
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  Speaker 2: Blacks hands if both teams are willing to run. Not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily saying the All Blacks are going to be better
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  Speaker 2: at it, but they will like the fact that they're
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  Speaker 2: not being forced to try and catch high balls every
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  Speaker 2: two seconds. So you know Scotland that methods work for
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  Speaker 2: them and the Six Nations to an extent, whether it
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  Speaker 2: works against the All Blacks, I think the jury's out
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  Speaker 2: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the occasion, the way Scotland play it
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  Speaker 3: could go one or two ways. Russell's the type of
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  Speaker 3: guy that can can be hot and cold as well,
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  Speaker 3: can be a wee bit erratic when he's on. He's
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  Speaker 3: on his running game, his short kicking game is lethal,
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  Speaker 3: but he's quite nonchalant, quite hard to predict, and that
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  Speaker 3: can go one or two ways. So I think he'll
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  Speaker 3: be right up for this, but Scotland not at full
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  Speaker 3: strength and if things don't go to plan. The All
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  Speaker 3: Blacks haven't been their best on counter attack, but you
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  Speaker 3: think of fighting a knooker or even a levera Ricardo
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  Speaker 3: swooping on some loose ball, bone barretts, little kicks and behind.
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  Speaker 3: I think the way Scotland play will certainly plan into
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  Speaker 3: their hands more than say in England next week, who
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  Speaker 3: will be expected to kick a lot look to grind
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  Speaker 3: the All Blacks frustrate them. I think Ill Blacks will
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  Speaker 3: probably relish playing Scotland more than they will England.
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  Speaker 2: Prediction time, what do you reckon Saturday afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it goes to history and scripts. Gilbacks
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  Speaker 3: will preserve the unbeaten records and they'll win by ten points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the All Blacks by twelve. I think
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  Speaker 2: it'd be a close game, but I think the All
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  Speaker 2: Blacks will just be a little bit too clinical, a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too good, and that'll be enough for the victory.
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