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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is good. It's Trevor may Day with Scottie Braun.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: You get two of us on a Friday. Let Trevor
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  Speaker 2: cook all Friday long, which he does on his own
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  Speaker 2: show may Day quite often.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor, good to see you.
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  Speaker 2: And just in case you needed a little more confidence,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't think you do, but just in case
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  Speaker 2: you wanted a little pump me up on a Friday.
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  Speaker 2: You are the most valuable position in the ft FAM
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  Speaker 2: and in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Why do I say that. How many relievers were dealt
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  Speaker 1: for at the trade deadline versus every other position?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, like a hundred.
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  Speaker 4: We tried to count the number of transactions that have
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  Speaker 4: in today, just in general, players that were in one
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  Speaker 4: place and then went to another place. It was legitimately
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  Speaker 4: over one hundred, which is incredible. What a blast though.
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  Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun being on this side
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  Speaker 4: of things and covering it and just having stuff happen
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  Speaker 4: in real time. I was fortunate to be doing being
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  Speaker 4: on a show with Hunter Pence and so he understood
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  Speaker 4: the assignment too. We were excited, We were excited, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of yelling. It was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: That's good energy.
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  Speaker 2: But you realize sometimes in the off season a few
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  Speaker 2: relievers get paid and then many don't. And also many
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  Speaker 2: relievers unfortunately don't make it to free agency. Good ones even,
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  Speaker 2: but then come trade deadline time, jams go Wait, if
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna make the playoffs, we use relievers in October
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  Speaker 2: more than we use starters. Last year, I believe was
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  Speaker 2: fifty two percent relievers in October versus forty eight percent
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  Speaker 2: for starters. And I will say, I think they are
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  Speaker 2: doing something right. Because of the volatility and you want
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  Speaker 2: to catch a hot hand, it does make sense to
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  Speaker 2: do the trade deadline thing, not to go too crazy
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  Speaker 2: because we got a lot to cover for the day.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember Andrew Friedman saying I want to get
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  Speaker 2: all my work done in the off season. So even
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  Speaker 2: loading up on relievers like kurbya, it's Tanner, Scottik, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is pitchers get hurt a lot. And then
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  Speaker 2: the problem on top of that is relievers are vollatiles.
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  Speaker 2: So you still might get to the trade deadline and
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  Speaker 2: be like, damn, I could use a high leverage guy.
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  Speaker 4: It is crazy that relievers are so valuable in a
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  Speaker 4: very specific situation, namely making a playoff run, going deep
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  Speaker 4: into the playoffs, and then winning a World Series. They're
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  Speaker 4: like arguably one of the most if not the most
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  Speaker 4: important positions to have at least covered. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: need several guys, but you can really really get a
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  Speaker 4: lot of value out of that. And this is a
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  Speaker 4: great example of how this is This plays out is interesting.
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  Speaker 4: We was doing Sunday Night Baseball last week and graphic
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  Speaker 4: came up about Jan Durant and Harris and Harrison Bader
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  Speaker 4: joining the Phillies and it showed their wars and guess
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  Speaker 4: which were those two of those guys? Which one of
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  Speaker 4: those two guys had a higher war this year? Harrison Bader.
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  Speaker 4: But if you asked anybody who would who would you
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  Speaker 4: who might be playing a much much bigger role in
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  Speaker 4: the playoff, they would say the opposite. So it just
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  Speaker 4: goes to show you, like how relievers are valued. You
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  Speaker 4: kind of have to get into the weeds figure out
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  Speaker 4: if you want to do it with statistics, but there's
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  Speaker 4: one consensus, and that is the best teams have the
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  Speaker 4: best reliever cours going into the playoffs. The guys throwing
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  Speaker 4: the best back there tend to get the farthest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in the playoffs, war might not be
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  Speaker 2: the right answer. I don't know if they're factoring in
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  Speaker 2: relievers the way that they should regular season.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you can make your cases.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, war is going to reward position players at
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  Speaker 2: premium positions playing every day, cool, get it. But the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs are built differently. Things tighten up, including your pitching staff.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a good point. You might have to tell
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  Speaker 2: some of your buddies to work on something there if
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  Speaker 2: they don't have it already, because really it would benefit
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  Speaker 2: your brethren. So anyway, let's get to a team actually
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  Speaker 2: that's got a pretty good bullpen. Let's charge them out,
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  Speaker 2: charging about Mariners, sweep Mariners, walk off Domken's own with
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  Speaker 2: the walkoff knock. For the Ems, they've been pretty damn
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  Speaker 2: good since the trade deadline. I think five or six
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  Speaker 2: and one since the trade deadline. I will point out
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  Speaker 2: that Josh Naylor left that game last night early. Looked
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  Speaker 2: like he was wincing a little bit. Shoulder soreness is
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  Speaker 2: the word. It's the other shoulder, because I think the
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  Speaker 2: other shoulder was bothering him, and then you know, this
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  Speaker 2: one pops up for him. So here it is pulled
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  Speaker 2: today due to a sore shoulder that was on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: And then Mary Brown, who covers the Sports that this
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  Speaker 2: is something to watch out where he had issues with
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder on and office recently as mid June with
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  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. So you want to weigh it looks like
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  Speaker 2: a hard swing there, you want away playing him making
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs and also making sure that Josh Naylor would
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  Speaker 2: be ready for an October stretch.
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  Speaker 4: I you know, it looks like a little bit of
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  Speaker 4: a tweak. I think there's certain different swings you can see,
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  Speaker 4: then you can assume a certain level of maybe how bad.
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  Speaker 3: It might be.
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  Speaker 4: But one thing about Josh Naylor is he swings hard,
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  Speaker 4: and he always swings hard. He's swinging off his helmet
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  Speaker 4: pretty much every time he swings, and that's just the
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  Speaker 4: way he plays the game. So you know for him
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  Speaker 4: to he needs to be able to do that to
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  Speaker 4: be as effective as he can. And it looks like
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  Speaker 4: he just something felt a little bit weird there, But
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  Speaker 4: even the subsequent swings after it, it didn't seem like
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  Speaker 4: he like couldn't swing anymore, just like he just was
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  Speaker 4: tentative about it, which gives me, you know, a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of hope, and I'll be honest, we can talk
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  Speaker 4: about his bad and his glove and what he's meant
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  Speaker 4: and how they have corner pop for the first time
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  Speaker 4: in recent history, the Mariners, that is. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the guy's got eleven bags since he's joined the team,
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  Speaker 4: which is crazy considering he's in the top bottom I think,
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  Speaker 4: bottom ten or twenty percent in the league in sprint speed.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean he's taken bags left, right, and center.
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  Speaker 4: That might be the biggest loss to have if he's
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  Speaker 4: not playing. So to give them a little bit rest,
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  Speaker 4: we're talking. We're in the dog bays here, right, We're
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  Speaker 4: in Houdust. This is the best time to get a
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  Speaker 4: few days off here and there. They're coming off a
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  Speaker 4: really good series. They're gaining gaining some games on that
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  Speaker 4: division lead Astros. But you know, if you do, if
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  Speaker 4: you do pass them now, you're gonna have to stay
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  Speaker 4: ahead of them. So let's let's just take it one
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  Speaker 4: day at a time and get make sure everyone's healthy
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  Speaker 3: Go for it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about the stolen based prowess of Naylor a
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  Speaker 2: lot this week, and I was thinking how coaches across
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  Speaker 2: the country, youth, high school, even college, are probably pointing
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  Speaker 2: to him as the post boy for why you can
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  Speaker 2: steal bags and not be that fast and just a
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  Speaker 2: whole baseball IQ and the fuel for the game is important.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I want to double click on what you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about with DMS within the AL West. So, first off,
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  Speaker 2: you're out in the Pacific Northwest. How much are the
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  Speaker 2: fans buying into this team. There's been frustration over the
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  Speaker 2: years because they've built a really nice core, especially on
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  Speaker 2: the starting pitching staff side of things, and bullpen's been
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  Speaker 2: pretty good and here comes some offense for them reinforcements
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. So as of right now, after
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  Speaker 2: that Seattle dub you've got Houston one and a half
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  Speaker 2: games clear of Seattle in the ALE West, and then
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  Speaker 2: the Texas Rangers are four and a half games back
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  Speaker 2: of first place Houston. But the Rangers in a fight
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  Speaker 2: for a wildcard spot, that last wildcard spot right now.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a Texas Yankees even Cleveland involved kind of battle. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Boston is still close enough where they can
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  Speaker 2: get caught.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about the Ale West and the
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  Speaker 1: ale wild Card?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the first of all, the sentiment up here
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  Speaker 4: is they are they jump on the bandwagon quick, they
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  Speaker 4: get back on the horse quick, and they love their
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  Speaker 4: sports and they're they're really enjoying what they're seeing.
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  Speaker 3: They think, like for the first.
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  Speaker 4: Time in a long time, really excited about moves done
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  Speaker 4: in the deadline. I think that even if they ended
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  Speaker 4: up not working out, that most fans will be like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, what, we did the things we need to do.
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  Speaker 3: It just you just got to go out and do
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  Speaker 3: the win at that point.
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  Speaker 4: And so Jerry Depoto is getting a lot of credit
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  Speaker 4: amongst the van base that was towering a little bit
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  Speaker 4: on some of the moves recently. So that's all great,
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  Speaker 4: and it's the division is very competitive like you thought
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  Speaker 4: it would go in especially with the top three teams
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  Speaker 4: up there.
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  Speaker 3: I think they're all playoff caliber teams, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Mariners have a great opportunity with that
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  Speaker 4: starting pitching and they're scoring more runs and they've created
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  Speaker 4: more of a dynamic lineup that is kind of scary
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  Speaker 4: top to bottom, Like you can't really there's not like
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  Speaker 4: a streak of four or five guys that you didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to worry about as much as you had in
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  Speaker 4: the past, and that has been closed up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: So it's big thumbs up here I got producer Henry
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  Speaker 4: in here working with me in the office, and he
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  Speaker 4: does a thing every day with his whiteboard in his
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  Speaker 4: office where he writes down his sentiment score for the Mariners.
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  Speaker 4: And he's been up in the eight to nines since
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  Speaker 4: for the last couple of weeks, since they got nailor so,
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  Speaker 4: and that continues. If we're going to go by the
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  Speaker 4: Henry barometer, things are good up here and so.
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  Speaker 1: Yet Okay, well it could have been even better.
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  Speaker 2: Why because they might have added another reliever for the
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  Speaker 2: stretch run. They were close, apparently, according to a fans
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  Speaker 2: Heided insider Robert Murray, who was a guest host on
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  Speaker 2: Fair Territory yesterday. So I don't want to upset your boy,
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  Speaker 2: because things are looking really good up in Seattle, and
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  Speaker 2: you can't have it all right.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go to the candy shop and pick out everything.
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Depoto did an awesome job addressing the top need,
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  Speaker 2: which was corner infield spots.
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  Speaker 1: But did you hear about this? Let's roll the clip.
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  Speaker 6: On the hype train this morning. But I'm also thinking
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  Speaker 6: they're legit. They added Josh Naylor, Ihanel Suarez and they
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  Speaker 6: almost got Joean Duran, and there was at one point
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  Speaker 6: that morning that he was traded that I thought he
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  Speaker 6: was going to be in Seattle, but they ended up
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  Speaker 6: getting the two sluggers and both of them have been
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  Speaker 6: very good since coming to Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't Durand's entrance with like a magenta ish kind of thing,
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  Speaker 2: So that would have worked well up in that ballpark
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  Speaker 2: two in Seattle. I mean, it's working for the FI
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  Speaker 2: it's close enough, red whatever, but that still would have
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  Speaker 2: worked up in the Pacific Northwest being at It's t
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  Speaker 2: Mobile Park. But anyway, what could that have looked like
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  Speaker 2: for the Mariners. It's a good bullpen, but some teams
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  Speaker 2: loaded up super bullpens. I wouldn't say it's like.
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  Speaker 4: That, no, I mean, statistically the park helps a lot. Statistically,
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  Speaker 4: they're still one of the top three bullpens even this
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  Speaker 4: year with Gabe Speier throwing from really great innings from
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  Speaker 4: the left side, the young Vargas kid, they kind of
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  Speaker 4: mix and match it and figure out the best way
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  Speaker 4: to get to the back end to Andris Munos, who
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  Speaker 4: is one of the best lockdown closers out there. It
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  Speaker 4: would have been interesting to see, is did Duran then
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  Speaker 4: become the eighth inning guy that conwak Kelsley is in
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  Speaker 4: New York right now.
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  Speaker 3: Probably usually rock with the guy you've had.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't want to mess that up because that's
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  Speaker 4: usually if that doesn't work out, it doesn't look good.
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  Speaker 4: So it would have been great to have him. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure they would have loved it. He would have thrived
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  Speaker 4: in this ballpark, probably here. But you know, you can't
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  Speaker 4: get everybody, no matter how not even the San Diego
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  Speaker 4: Padres got everybody, and boy did they try so. But
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  Speaker 4: that's it's it's cool to think about. And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: his walkout probably would work anywhere. And the story behind
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  Speaker 4: that with Dustin Morris and the and the media team
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  Speaker 4: over there in Minnesota passing it on unprompted to saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we worked really hard on this.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone here loves it.
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  Speaker 4: You guys will love it too, And then of course
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  Speaker 4: Philly fans being like this was a thing we could have,
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  Speaker 4: like that, this is something that like this is electric here,
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  Speaker 4: and of course it just took off as surprising absolutely
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  Speaker 4: nobody especially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're going to see more and more
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  Speaker 2: of that in the league. I mean, we are seeing
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that over the last few years. I
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  Speaker 2: think you're going to see even more of that because
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  Speaker 2: you have a spot like Philly that hadn't experienced it before.
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  Speaker 2: It creates another viral moment, another city that is loving
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, I mean that can be your top memory
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  Speaker 2: at a game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were.
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  Speaker 2: Booming who were they booing the other day because Duran
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  Speaker 2: had to sit down he was warming up? Oh well, Kepler, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but the Phillies fans were booing someone the other day
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  Speaker 2: because Duran was warming up. And then I think they had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a five run lead or something that turned into.
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  Speaker 1: A non same situation.
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  Speaker 2: So he goes back down and so whoever came into
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  Speaker 2: the game instead, they were booing that reliever as if
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  Speaker 2: you know, he was deciding the fate of the Duran entrance.
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  Speaker 1: But it just shows you how much it's capturing a city. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: to stay on topic for one more minute here with
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners, very good team, a lot of personality too,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are really fun to watch
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  Speaker 1: on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Naylor is definitely one of them. Gino Suarez is beloved
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  Speaker 2: in Seattle. Who else Randy Rose Arena kind of fun
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  Speaker 2: to watch career. I twenty third home run yesterday, So
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  Speaker 2: this seems good. This seems very good. Last one here,
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  Speaker 2: pop quiz at the finish line, Astros, Mariners, Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: Do they all make the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: That's an I think it's entirely possible.
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  Speaker 4: Someone's got to win the division for the West to
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  Speaker 4: have two of the three spots. It really is dependent,
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  Speaker 4: I think on what happens with the Red Sox and Yankees,
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  Speaker 4: right because in order for that to happen, probably the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees would have to fall out. And I'll be honest,
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  Speaker 4: it's really hard to bet against the Yankees no matter
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  Speaker 4: what's happening and not making the playoffs because they do
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  Speaker 4: it every single year. But it's been dark days there so.
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  Speaker 4: But can't count of Cleveland out either, So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's it's possible, but inevitably kind of unlikely, especially with
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  Speaker 4: how close the other two teams are.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Ale standings in the central are worth the look.
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  Speaker 2: According to Mike che in the YouTube chat today, he said,
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  Speaker 2: look where the Guardians are six games back of the Tigers.
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  Speaker 2: I get you might that's still a tall task. And Trevor,
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  Speaker 2: it's not unfathomable. It's happened before this time of year
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  Speaker 2: where teams are even close to nine or ten back,
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  Speaker 2: there's been those crazy stories. So six is not like
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  Speaker 2: off the charts wild. But Cleveland didn't add they're good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're great. Tigers are really solid. I
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  Speaker 2: know they've gone through more downtimes lately, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: like they've lost half their team. You know, if like
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  Speaker 2: there were some massive injuries like schoobl or somebody's down
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, okay, we can make
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  Speaker 2: a case, but I don't see it.
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  Speaker 1: Could it get close, maybe, but I don't see it.
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  Speaker 6: Do you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there would have to be a combination of collapse
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  Speaker 4: and a team kind of just getting hot in a
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  Speaker 4: way that I think that the Guardians are especially, They're
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  Speaker 4: a very grindy team. They always are, even in the
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  Speaker 4: not the highest years they have. But I just don't
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  Speaker 4: think like there we're gonna look at a team who's
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  Speaker 4: gonna rattle off like, you know, fourteen or fifteen games
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  Speaker 4: or something. Just they're still young, they don't quite have
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  Speaker 4: the star power. And I think that Detroit is playing
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  Speaker 4: about as poorly as they played all year, and that
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  Speaker 4: they could very easily turn a couple of things around
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  Speaker 4: and get right back to their winning ways and make
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  Speaker 4: it even harder. So it would take a lot, I think,
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  Speaker 4: for in either direction, for these two teams for that
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: to happen. But six games isn't insurmountable by any means.
• 16:08
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• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It was a light Thursday, but it was a Paul
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Skien's day against the Reds Redserve in it. They're competing
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: for a wildcard spot and they got blanked. Schemes was
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: money as usual. He's got like a ridiculous home scoreless
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: streak going on. So if you're in Pittsburgh and you're
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: depressed because the team always stinks, you do get Skeen's
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Day and it is very fun. So it's twenty seven
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and two thirds consecutive home scoreless innings. The youngest pitcher
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: in live ball are to have five home starts without
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: allowing an earned run. I think he's fourteen to zero
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: this year with three runs of support. Three runs is
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: not a lot. That's less than the average you get
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: from a team in a big league game, So he's
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: used to these type moments. He actually did get a
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: little extra support in this one, but overall, just wanted
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: to get a check with mister pitcher here on what
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you're seeing from Paul. He's not the same pitcher this year,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: but he's just as good, if not better, with what
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: he's finding in terms of his arsenal little less case.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I haven't looked as much lately, but I know when
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I looked about a month or so ago, it was
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: still way below the number that he was pumping last
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: year in terms of K per nine and K percentage.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, one thing that's crazy about how good
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: he's been. I mean, I think that we all thought
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: this was entirely within the realman possibility to just repeat
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: the results he had last year. But he came into
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: spring training and I remember there was kind of a
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: big stink, but people were excited about hearing him adding
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: two pitches after the season he just had. And then
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: he said pretty explicitly, I want to have enough pitches
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: to stay off of barrels and get early contact, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: then also if I'm going to get a strikeout, get
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: it quickly and assume as possible. So he's taking his three,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: four or five pitch strikeouts, but beyond that, he's like
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: hit it to somebody like, I want to go deeper
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: into games. I don't want this like ramp up of
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: innings because I'm young and I don't have a lot
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: of experience from college, which you simply can't throw enough
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: innings in college to get yourself up to the ability
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: to throw one hundred and eighty to two hundred in
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: a season. He wanted to do that as quickly as possible,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: and the best way to do it was use the
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: least amount of pitches as possible. And here we are
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: four and a half months in and he has done
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: exactly that, and he's still striking out a good percentage
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: of his hit It's not like he's like not a
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: strikeout guy now. He's still striking out like ten point
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: five for nine. He's just not the top of the league.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: He could be if that's what he's going for, but
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: he would also probably have a lot less innings, so
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: it's a trade off. He knows that as a twenty
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: two to twenty three year old, that is wildly impressive
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: and I mean mission accomplished. He's doing exactly what he
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: wanted to do and it has stayed healthy, and I
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: mean it's just rinse, repeat at this point.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: It goes against the grain a little bit. Relievers are
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: in a different world, right, you're in for a short burst,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: swing and miss is key. But for Paul when he
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: is trying to extend himself in a game, it does
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: go against the grain of what most pitchers are taught
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: to do these days. Because Trever's swing and miss gets
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: you paid too. I feel like Skeens is on another
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: level in terms of confidence and knowing that, you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: if he hits free agency, he's going to get paid
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: as the top starter of all time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: If he keeps this up.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: So he can just do his thing as era as
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: we tweeted yesterday after the six shutout.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Innings one nine to four on the season.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I mean, a lot
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: of guys are taught obviously, v Lot's let's tunnel. Let's
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: make sure that we have a nice array as a starter,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and let's make sure we have swing and miss because
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: that limits contact, which leads to batted ball luck.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And Skeens is like, yeah, I'm going to.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Sacrifice a little bit of that so that I can
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: make sure I'm going you know, six, seven, sometimes eight
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: innings in these outings, and I don't think it necessarily
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: has to do with the Pirates, although you know, getting
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the run sport and even having the right bullpen intact
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is part of things, and he'd like to win more.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do a lot more if he
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: wants to win more with the Pirates, like maybe learn to,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: you know, swing a bat and spend some money for
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: his owner. Again another topic, But what do you think
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: about him kind of going against the green of what
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: most young starters are taught to do these days.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I just think he's just more advanced and he he
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: found his ability to have true power stuff in college.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Like there's guys who don't know how it's gonna play
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: at the big league level or at a high level.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Yet I take like Misrowski, for example, maybe Jase Burn,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Like these guys are a little bit more raw, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: they have really great stuff and they know that that
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: is gonna be the way that I operate, Like this
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: is what's gonna get me and keep me here, and
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: then they're learning about how to then use that stuff effectively.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Here.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: He just is a couple of steps ahead. It's just
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: something he's already thought about. It was already in his
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: on his radar, as a twenty year old and he
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: had elite command. He has elite command and those guys don't, right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: So that is kind of where it comes from. You
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: maximize your stuff because you don't have command yet, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: then you live command. That's usually how it works in
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: your first few years in the big leagues. He just
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: didn't need he skipped that. He didn't need to do it.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: He was already there. Which is funny because we're talking
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: a little bit about going against screen. Another guy who
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: pitches like this gets his strikeouts, but very clearly isn't
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: going for them, and that's Zach Wheeler has not one
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: to cy Young yet, which is I think a travesty
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: at this point, but he's well on his way to
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: maybe getting his first one this year. It's so funny
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: we're talking about Paul Skins, but Zach Wheeler does the
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: same thing, doesn't walk people, doesn't try to strike everybody out,
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: and has more counting stats across the board in the
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: same way, but he does approach the same way. He
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: wants to go eight innings like that is his goal,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: and I think we're seeing a little bit of a shift.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: You just have to be more advanced and more confident
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: in your ability to throw the ball over the plate
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: and that your stuff will get your swings in this
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: whether you.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Try or not.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Like that's the switch that flips. Usually guys are twenty
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: seven when this happens. He's twenty two. I think that's
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: why it's so impressious.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has the leverage in a conversation if
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the front office and or coaching staff is talking to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: him about being careful down the stretch, like Hey, we're
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: gonna limit your innings a little bit the last month
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: and a half, He's probably like, Yeah, we're gonna do
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: whatever I want to do because I'm drawing fans and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I've been doing what I want to do up to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: this point and it's working out for me.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I mean no offense to Ben Charrington. You might even
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be there next year, so it might be a totally
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: different front office working with him. Like they have him
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: permission to the WBC, He's going to do whatever he wants.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Right He's one of the faces of the sport, so
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I think they're just happy to have him right now.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Hopefully the Pirates can figure some things out in the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: off season. Let's do this on the way out. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: then we're getting ready for Gavin Williams. He's about to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: be in the green room. We have a nice photo
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: here for you, Trevor. It was more of like a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: surprise photo for Matt McLean, and it was O'Neil Cruz
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and Elie Dela Cruz, two of the largest humans major
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: League Baseball, posing next to McLean.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: This is good. I love it. I love it. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: love that he's having fun with it. The jokes.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: You've got to be able to take a joke, and
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: when you play major League Baseball, that is for sure.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: So it's good to see it. But yeah, I mean
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: it's funny because McLean, that guy can hit. He's a
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: compact He's a compact power guy.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And the other guys are long levered.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Right, that's just yes, different different strokes, different folks.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, he's got a serious, serious size deficit
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: with those two, probably about a foot. Real quick, we
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: have a quick minute here the Cincinnati Reds. Do you
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: like their chances for the last month and a half
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: here to make a run at a wild card? Of course,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: you're gonna need a team to kind of fall back,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: and it's hard to see that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe the Mets.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about them a little bit later, but you're
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: gonna need a team to fall back because it looks
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: like that really clear top six in the National League.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I think the Reds are good. I think they'd be
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: a playoff team in the AL, and I like their
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: hitching staff. I don't think their offense is probably good enough.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: They did improve run prevention with key Brian Hayes.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Will see if he hits. But what do you think
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: about this team? Like, I think they have a shot.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I do think a team meets to collapse though. I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: don't think the Reds are going to go on a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: ridiculous run. But could they be a few games over
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: five hundred for the last month and a half of
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the season.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I think so.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's been a while.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: We've been I feel like we've been talking about this
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: for three ish years. They go on a little run,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: they get about a couple games over five hundred, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: then the wheels fall off again. They lose six in
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a row and then they're back to kind of just
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: being around there. But I think the crowd, the young
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: guys have been there. Ellie's been there for a while.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Mcclean's been there, for a while. You know, they have
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: the pieces, they're healthy, they're all playing, and their pitching
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: staff has gotten better. They did add some meaningful pieces
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: at the deadline that should help them and improve the
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: defense and have some experience, like it would be great
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: to see a Cincinnati Reds sneak in make some noise
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: and maybe make a little run because we I mean,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: it's always nice to see teams the scene in a
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: while make a playoff appearance. And the one one of
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: the benefits of having more playoff teams now is hopefully
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: we see this more often. So I think it's absolutely
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: within the realm of possibility. And honestly, it'd be really
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: fun to see a bunch of wild card teams all
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: get hot and have it go down to the wire,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: kind of like I did last year. That would be
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: that'd be a lot of fun with just teams playing
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: really well, not one team collapsing and one team playing
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: really playing incredible, because that that isn't as fun in
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: my opinion, And maybe I'm being a little biased here
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: because I think we know who I am talking about.
• 26:34
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• 26:36
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• 26:39
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• 26:43
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• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Well. Also.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I mean in the National League, we had we had
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: a conversation the other day about playoff projections. Unless the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Reds make a nice run or the Marlins do something
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: really crazy. There are six really strong teams in the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: National League, so it could get very boring the playoff race.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You'll have seating, you'll have buys, but as far as
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: who makes it playoff wise, Reds do fall off a
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: little bit and the Marlins come back down to earth,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: and you know the rest of those top six just
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: do their thing, it could be a very vanilla playoff
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: race for the last month and a half the National League.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think the American League will be like that,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: but National lygue could end up that way. So we'll
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: see if the Reds can put things together. I mean,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I like what they've done the last few years in
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: terms of focusing on drafting and developing as much pitching
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: as possible, trading for pitching. I liked the zach Lytel
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: pickup at the trade deadline because it's not that easy
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: for them to convince free agents to sign there, right,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, you essentially have to overpay if you're Cincinnati.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I'm generalizing, but usually that's the case, and it has
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with the ballpark experience the team, Right,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: they're competitive, they'll treat you well, but the ballpark won't
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: treat you well in terms of your results as a
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: pitcher generally. Right, they're probably in that top three conversation
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: among pitchers. You tell me, And I know ballpark factors
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: change year to year, but not every player is paying
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: attention to it to that extent. Don't you generally think
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: there's like three or four parks where guys say, yeah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that's gonna take a little extra money for me.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Colorado of course part of the mix there too.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that that stuff gets kind of
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: wiped out though, if you have an offense that can
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: take them take advantage of it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: I e.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: The Dodgers.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: The Dodgers have a bottom three park, two like somehow
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: they get all the pitching right.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: So it's like but they they're like, well, we're.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Probably gonna score eleven runs every game though, So like
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I'm I am okay with that. I think that I
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: trust that you know the pitching side of that stuff
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to help me out there, and you know, to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: completely open and honest, Colorado and Cincinnati don't have that
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: reputation right now, so you know, it is something that
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: factors in and it makes it it makes it tougher,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: uh to go and say yes when you don't know
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: if the team's going to be good either or if
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: the offense is going to be good enough to you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: help offset some of those those problems.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: So it's possible, but.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: It's definitely one of the many factors that goes in
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: when pitchers are trying to figure out where they what,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: what offers they want a field, and what they want
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: to ignore.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you were a free agent right now
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and you're a starter, and forget even what the cities are,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, and figure both teams are competitive. If
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati gives you a call and they're like, hey, tremvor
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: are three years ten a year and then another team
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: with at least a mid range ballpark, right kind of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: balanced in terms of if it's a pitchers or a
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: hitters park gives you a call. I know you're going
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to factor in other things, but if you take this
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: in a vacuum, you're not going to go to Cincinnati
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: unless they pay you a little bit more right, because
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's going to affect numbers, and it could
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: affect your performance in your career, right like you could
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: fall off, guys lose confidence.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: That is that is kind of how the scales get
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: balanced when you're making these decisions, and it's not.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I mean the I know, the assumption is that money
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: is like.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: The top of the the top of the list for
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: every single guy, and for it's up there top three
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: usually because usually it's the currency. Be like you're adding
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: or subtracting what you're looking for based on who is
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: who is reaching out, and uh, that is something that
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: can can make up for some of maybe the deficiencies
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: that aren't going to either help you in your career,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: or if the team's not great right now but they're
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: gonna build or whatever, selling the dream of getting you
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: to come to a team that maybe doesn't have everything
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: figured out right now, that money is one way too
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: compensate for that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So you know, of course that is the way it works.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: But in a vacuum, if you're just considering the park
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: and if you're gonna play, if you're more likely to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: be able to get away with mistakes or not, you're
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: going to choose the place that at least at least
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have you can count on that, and at
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the place with the better park factors, and if if
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: they're not willing to go above a little bit above
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: and make it a sweetened the deal a little bit,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: then that's what happens. But that's just kind of I mean,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: that's true in every every sport when it comes down
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: to I mean, there's no park factors in the other
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: two major sports, or.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Actually the other three including hockey.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: But you know where you're at, the area, the you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: the the fan base, like all this stuff is going
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: to factor in as well.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: And that is that rings true in baseball.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: That's why if you're Nick Crawl running the Reds front
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: office last year, you're like, oh, everyone thinks that I
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: should pick Charlie Condon number two overall.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good. We're gonna go Chase Burns.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: We're gonna add another big arm, thank you, and then
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: at the trade deadline adding Lttel. You know, key, Brian
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Hayes is definitely more of a pitching, you know, run
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: prevention kind of guy, even if he finds himself at
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the plate again. Trevor Quick note here Braves one yesterday,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: two homers for Drake Baldwin. He's definitely very much in
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the Rookie the Year conversation. But I wanted to spend
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a minute here on Chris Sale. He's rehabbing. It sounds
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: like he should be back somewhat soon at some point.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I think this month some Braves fans were freaking out
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: out online here he is doing some sim but some
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: fans were like.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Why even pitch him? We're out?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: And then I saw back and forth with some Beat
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: writers like you want him to just not pitch for
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: a month and a half just to save him for
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: next year. So Chris Sale's gonna go out there and
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: he's going to pitch, and Brave fans, you'll be okay,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: it's not sacrificing next year.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, what we're resting him so that we
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: can rest him for four more months.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: That doesn't didn't make any sense. He's a competitor.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I think we especially coming off an injury, you want
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: to like see what see what's still there, maybe what
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: mechanical changes have come from it, because it was you know,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: it was a side injury. There's a lot of rotational stuff.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: There's things that he can he can pay attention to,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: and you want to go but you do want to
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: go into the offseason feeling good, feeling strong and build
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: on something. And Chris Sale's one of the best in
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: the game for a reason.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: He knows that stuff. That is the bulb moving forward.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the season didn't pan out the way you
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: wanted it to, but you got to like the guy.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: His job is to pitch. He would tell you that.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: He's like, I mean, don't you.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Guys want me to do my job, regardless of if
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: it's going to translate into me pitching into the postseason.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's that's what you're supposed to do,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: so I won't worry about it. Seeing a sharp Chris
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Sale should make you excited for next year.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, quickie.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Two minutes here, Jose Alvarado working his way back. He's
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: eligible to return from suspension. I think in about a
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: week and.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: A half or so.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Trevor's on his rehab assignment now, and his first rehab
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: appearance producing inning, a hit, two strikeouts, touched ninety eight
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: point six with that sinker. It's going to help the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Phillies in this stretch run here, not in the playoffs,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: But did you see the apology?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: What did you think of the whole deal?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: He didn't go with the excuse route when with more
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: of the legal I did, but I didn't not legally,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: but like kind of admitting it kind of deal.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd mean, honestly, something is always good when it
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: comes to your teammates. I've had I've been on teams
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: with you know, some of the stuff happened with Michael
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: Panada and to twenty eighteen maybe I think it was
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: or nineteen, and he stood in front of the team
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and gave a very clear and he's a very honest
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: guy and very passionate guy, so that was.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Just his style.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: And then some guys like just the circumstances, it's embarrassment,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: it's whatever. It's a little more muted, but an acknowledgement
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I think goes a long way. I think that everybody
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: in that clubhouse understands the situation, whether it was on
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: purpose or not. Also, like there's a level of understanding
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: temptation as well, depending on whatever the situation was. I
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: just think there's no group of guys that's going to
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: understand where you're coming from more than other players. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: it always meant a lot to us, just regardless of
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: what it was.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: I played with Marlon Gonzalez after the stuff about Astros
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: came out.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And he just owned it too, so it was valuable.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: It's good to see him say something.
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• 37:00
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• 37:03
  Speaker 2: some candidates for best player to ever wear the number eight?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Do you want me to read the list so you
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: can stew Yeah?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Sure, okay, Cal Ripken Junior, Carlia Streemsky, Joe Morgan, Yo Giberra,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Willi Stargel, Gary Carter other Obviously, I'm sure we're missing
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: a guy or two and a fan's gonna call it out.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: But at least from that list, what.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Do you like?
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Whoa which? Which group of fan bases? Am I more
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: okay with offending?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Uh, I'll go Yo Giberra.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking too.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And it's a good list, that is.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It's just the most iconic player from every all of
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: six different organizations.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Nobody deal.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we made it pretty tough for me. We're not
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: doing the whole deep dive on stats right now and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: playing that whole game.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: It's just like yogisms. I love those, So you could
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: be like that or you could be like.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you're a hey, I'm
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: an iron man guy, and I like people who show
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: up every day.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: The best ability is their ability blah blah blah. And
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: then cow's are picked.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: There.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: You can't go wrong.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: That's the point. But happy eight eight to all those
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: who celebrate. All right, So coming up next, here's what
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: we're gonna do. Uh, we're gonna talk about high schoolers
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: throwing a hundo plus and get Trevor's thoughts. We are
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: going to talk about the key to the Blue Jays
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: offensive success. And then our last guest on a Friday
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: here will be Tim Britton to make sure that the
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Mets are okay. It's become my new favorite question in
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the last few months, just like a nice simple at
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: the top when a team struggling.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Are they okay? Always produces a fun answer.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So we'll do that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Coming up in about a minute here, still taking questions,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: we'll preview some series matchups coming up as well. And
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: then yeah, I'm checking out the chat a little bit
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: more than I have recently. So oh Jay in the chat,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: weren't the ft guys part of the Yotani should focus
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: on hitting crowd a few months ago. I don't think
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: they took it that far. I think they just wanted
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: to see how his bat would look that. I'm not
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: going to totally represent Aj and Kratz right now, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: they were just like, I want to see what his
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: bat looks like. He's been hurt for a while. Like
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a fair point to bring up
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: on our show. They weren't like, he shouldn't pitch.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: If it ain't broke, don't fix it, guys, Just like
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: something something starts to degree, then you gotta be like,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: is he good? Is he as good as he used
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: to be at this? Then maybe it's time to switch.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: There's that time is gonna come? Now is not the time?
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: He is? Uh?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: He is a difference maker on both sides of the field,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: and as long as his body holds.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Up, you gotta let you gotta go with it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: I think he'll hit longer in his career than he'll pitch.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: But he still got innings left. Yay or nay on
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: this one. Trevor minor leaguer hits for the cycle, asks
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: for the baseball good that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Absolutely as a guy who did not enjoy cool stuff
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: enough when he played and I of course realized at
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: the moment i'd stopped. Yeah, how often you say it
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: for this, you might never do it again. I mean,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I was just flexing high school no hitters, So you should.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: You should enjoy the things, and it's get the ball.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: That might be the only thing he ever gets to
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: do in pro ball. Enjoy the stuff you get and
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: get excited about it. And I bet you nobody in
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: that park or in either dugout had any problem with that.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: It's a pretty cool conscious. It's not easy to do.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Don't see it every day.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I wonder.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been and I agree with you, by
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the way, I'm sure there's been a guy who's calling
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: for a baseball where you're like, what is this for?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that happens. Yeah. Sometimes you're like, okay, all right,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: well you know weird. Yeah.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen one where it's like, oh, it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: because it's his you know, eightieth hit and oh eighty
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: is my lucky number. I don't know, just something like
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: really stupid, ridiculous where you're like, why is that guy
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: asking for memorabilia right now in a major league game? You?
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen anything like that. Usually it's like
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: haven't had a hit in a month.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: You like, hey, can I get that one?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: But did they actually get it for I've seen that,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: but you know, like I've seen that where they're joking, Oh,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: this dude.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Just broke up. Actually throw it out. They put it?
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they put it in their in their locker. Ye,
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: it's great gag.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: All right, let's slap.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: We're gonna continue the conversation as we're looking ahead to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the weekend matchups for the next few minutes.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I'm going to.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Watch some Max Sures or in Clayton Kershaw facing off tonight.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's obviously two good teams, but also these two will
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: probably never face off again, just in terms of where
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: they are in their career. They first opposed each other
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: on September seventh of two thousand and eight, so Sarah
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Lang said, they're the first duo in Big League history
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: to start against each other as rookies and then both
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: accumulate three thousand plus career strikeouts. So I don't know
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: if you remember, but they had that viral moment that
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: was brought up in the past few years. They were
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: both pitching in that game, replacing injured starters. In future
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famers, and the open to the broadcast, which
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: we often joke about is overrated. It's a few minutes,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: just give me a quick preview of the game. But
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: that opens that broadcast will forever be in baseball history
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and viral. Randy Johnson against Greg Maddox, I think it was.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: And they're like, sorry, folks, you're gonna get these two rookies,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Kershaw and Scherzer instead. And it's like, oh, and little
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: did many people know that they were going to witness
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: again two of the better pitchers in Major League history
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and definitely in our era.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Well, let's hope they pitch, because we don't want this happen.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: What if?
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: But what if the torch got passed and there's two
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: rookies that came in behind them, and we're like, is
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: this is this an indicator of things to come?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: It's interesting to think about, but.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: I do want to see it as you do want
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: to kind of bookend this thing, this head to head
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: matchup with two to the greats of our generation. It's
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: crazy they were rookies at the same time. It's very
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: rare that two guys have careers like this and start
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: the same year. So two of the best to do it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: And uh, I mean, no matter how it goes, no
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: matter how sharp these guys look like, both contending teams,
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: both leading their divisions, it's a meaningful game as well,
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: So lot online we'll get to see their competitiveness, even
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: what they got.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: After all the time.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: And back then, you know you could maybe slip through
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the cracks a little bit and you would think it's
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: hard to do that nowadays. Jacobzaraski came on the scene,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: is big dude, but no one saw the miz looking
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: like this so far this year, so you can still
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: wow people and start a run. Hey, last minute here.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Happy birthday to our FT teammate Alana Rizzo. Hope you're
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: enjoying a nice time in that Boston weather, which she
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: doesn't love, but this is actually the time to enjoy it,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: so hopefully she's outside and enjoying a glass of wine. Also,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Anthony Rizzo, Yondi Diez, and Craig Breslow, Happy birthday and Trevor,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: this was fun, man, just you and me hanging chill
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: session in the library.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Feel and anytime, man, I love doing this.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go pick out a good book for me. Behind
• 44:26
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• 44:31
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