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- 0:00Break Fix's History of Motorsports Series is brought to you in part
- 0:04by the International Motor Racing Research Center, as well as the
- 0:07Society of Automotive Historians, the Watkins Glen Area Chamber of
- 0:11Commerce, and the Argo Singer family.
- 0:16How to beat the Mercedes-Benz W 1 96.
- 0:19An alternative history accelerates the Mid-engine
- 0:22Revolution by Carl Heinz Mertons.
- 0:24The new two and a half liter formula of 1954 raised the bar for
- 0:28engineering excellence and cost of entry to the pinnacle of motor racing.
- 0:32With Mercedes-Benz, leaving the shadows of World War II and becoming an
- 0:35accepted participant in motor racing, again, the Grand Prix community had
- 0:39to anticipate a full out effort of a new generation of Silver arrows.
- 0:43Indeed, new standards were set with a series of W one ninety six variants
- 0:47born out of vast corporate resources supported by components suppliers
- 0:50like Continental Bosch, and so.
- 0:53In this story, the imaginary Italian UNE automobile previously formed of
- 0:58National Legacy Manufacturers other than Fiat takes on the role of Auto
- 1:02Union Ag of the 1930s as an antagonist of Mercedes-Benz and Promoter of the
- 1:07Midian layout, a probabilistic SWAT analysis reveals what it would take to
- 1:11beat the mighty opponent for s Stuttgart.
- 1:14This is the start for a motley crew of Australian and Italian
- 1:17engineers led by Robert Ein Hors to create a victorious challenger.
- 1:21The prescribed engine configuration is a compact V six and homage to the launch of
- 1:25brand breaking with Italian traditions.
- 1:28Emphasis is put on chassis development where innovations and tires breaks,
- 1:31and aerodynamics will provide decisive competitive advantages.
- 1:34Dr. Carl Hinz.
- 1:35Mertons holds degrees in mechanical engineering and a doctorate in
- 1:39mechatronics and engineering from the technical University of Berlin, Germany.
- 1:43In more than 35 years of engineering and business experience in Europe and
- 1:47the us, Carl has focused on product innovation and new business incubation,
- 1:51applying cross-disciplinary methods with cross-cultural considerations.
- 1:54His work included experimental work on intelligent mobile equipment and
- 1:58wind energy systems in multinational corporations and startups.
- 2:01His enthusiasm for F1 goes back to the 1961 season.
- 2:05Like many people in racing, I'm bending the rules a little bit here,
- 2:10speaking to a society of historians.
- 2:15I will talk a little bit about the real history, but then we are often to an
- 2:20alternative history and give a picture of what could have been instead of what was.
- 2:25So, uh, the question is how to beat Mercedes-Benz at the time
- 2:30when it wasn't quite clear.
- 2:32That they would enter the um, 2.5 liter formula one race season in 1954.
- 2:40And so the model designation of W 1 96 wasn't known yet.
- 2:47So it's kind of blanked out here in the title.
- 2:51Let me give you a timeline of where this all starts, and then I will talk a
- 2:56little bit about what happened here on the left side before we get to 51 in 51.
- 3:01And all this is somewhat relevant to the story that I will tell in,
- 3:07uh, 51 Mercedes got back out of the destruction phase into the reconstruction
- 3:14and started building cars again.
- 3:16But not just any car.
- 3:17They started unveiling the, uh, 300 W 180 6 as an internal code,
- 3:25and it was a challenge to Rolls Royce to Packard, if you want.
- 3:30So they wanted to really reestablish the company as a provider of luxurious
- 3:36cars and, and set the standard.
- 3:39Shortly thereafter in this presentation happened at the, uh,
- 3:42Frankfurt Automobile Show in April.
- 3:45Shortly thereafter, the board approved that the company should go back to racing
- 3:51and there was a green light given for.
- 3:54A sports car project.
- 3:56First, the 300 SL to ease into motor sports again after World War ii.
- 4:02Now, what happened before, other was of course, the World War II and
- 4:07before it ended, there were plans, particularly in the us the Morgenthal
- 4:12plan that foresaw that, uh, Germany should really be brought back to
- 4:18the Middle Ages and should have no.
- 4:20Industrial capabilities anymore.
- 4:23The facilities that had survived the World War should be dismantled or destroyed,
- 4:28and, uh, it should be an agrarian society that, that would go forward and not
- 4:34be a threat to mankind going forward.
- 4:36Well, that plan, fortunately, didn't come to pass.
- 4:40Instead, there was of course, an activity, some of that on the table,
- 4:45and some of it was under the table.
- 4:47There were of course some of the, uh, Mercedes engineers that formed informal
- 4:52networks, and they were thinking about plans of what could they do and how
- 4:57could they survive, and at some point go back to the former glories again.
- 5:02That happened and that led to things like the Unimark, of course, a utility
- 5:07vehicle, kind of an agricultural tractor, and of course that kind of
- 5:12responded to the Morgan for plan.
- 5:15Of focusing on agriculture and not on things like racing or luxury cars.
- 5:20That machine, uh, was very successful.
- 5:23It was developed.
- 5:24It was very little means and, uh, with external help and the binger brothers
- 5:29chipped in and there were other.
- 5:31People that had allocations of sheet metal out for milk cans and and so forth.
- 5:36And they all contributed because at the time, in 45 when the war was lost, Germany
- 5:42was under military rule and the area around Stuttgart was about the American.
- 5:47Administration then, and so material were scars and had to be applied for and to
- 5:54be a good reason as to why you wanted some material and you couldn't ask for
- 5:58material for race cars, for example.
- 6:00Wouldn't have been a good proposition.
- 6:02Moves on from there.
- 6:03Pretty quickly, the Arkansas plan gets replaced by the Marshall Plan.
- 6:09Money flows into Europe and the reconstruction is pretty fast and furious.
- 6:15So there were some activities already at the beginning of 51.
- 6:20A couple of the, uh, pre-war one 60 fours.
- 6:24We're brought to, uh, Argentina to run in one Cyrus at a couple of races.
- 6:30And the idea was, well, we were so successful with those pre-war
- 6:34silver arrows, we could probably just dust them off and use them
- 6:38again in, uh, this new age.
- 6:40It turned out they were not that successful, was the, uh,
- 6:45moving force behind all this.
- 6:47He had a, a delegation going to Argentina with these cars engineer responsible for
- 6:54those who, how was not in the delegation.
- 6:57So things were probably not perfectly set up, but those cars, three liter mercedeses
- 7:02were beaten by two liter Ferraris.
- 7:04And it was kind of a shameful event from a Mercedes perspective because
- 7:10the DNA of the company was indeed.
- 7:13You make the best cars you can make and when you go racing, you go for the win.
- 7:19You're not settling for second places.
- 7:21They had to rethink the solar operation and scale back a little bit.
- 7:25Go back to building a sports car and focus only once the dust settled
- 7:32and it became clear how Formula One would be organized in the future,
- 7:36that there would be indeed a new one.
- 7:39A formula that would give preference to naturally aspirated engines,
- 7:43and it would start in 1954.
- 7:46It became clear.
- 7:47Now, that was the new goal for Mercedes, but in the interim, they
- 7:51were working on a race car that they could build out of this luxury car.
- 7:55Kind of a clumsy way to do it, but nevertheless, it turned out
- 7:59to be quite successful around the same time, at the end of 1951.
- 8:04Alfa Romeo, who had had two very successful years with the LF Fetas,
- 8:09decided that that wouldn't be a long term proposition going forward with those cars.
- 8:14They were at the end of their development potential, and you couldn't increase
- 8:19the uh uh, compression ratios and the supercharger pressures and so on,
- 8:25and you couldn't deal with the fuel consumption that increased exponentially.
- 8:30So the abandoned racing.
- 8:32Completely.
- 8:33Now if, if you are a competitor in this Grand Prix racing scene
- 8:38and you think about, well, I have to compete with Mercedes again,
- 8:43they're not doing things half baked.
- 8:45You have to have the financial strengths.
- 8:48And you have to have the intellectual strength to build a
- 8:51true competitor, a good car that can indeed meet and beat Mercedes-Benz.
- 8:58It takes something.
- 8:59So here is where I, we are off into La la land if you want.
- 9:02So during 1952, where could a group come about that would make a
- 9:09challenge for Mercedes, not in France?
- 9:12I think, you know, the CTA arsenal was.
- 9:14Rolling disaster and would not have yielded a real competitor in England.
- 9:20BRM was a, uh, bureaucratic mess, and it wasn't really going anywhere
- 9:25fast, and it was also too much looking backwards to the 1930s technology wise.
- 9:32So I could see that scenario in Italy.
- 9:36If you reconstruct something like the ion that had been very successful in Germany
- 9:43and had provided this competitive product to Mercedes in form of the, uh, mid-engine
- 9:49silver arrows that were initially designed by failure net Porsche and.
- 9:54Engineering office and then, uh, Nan Ho in particular insourced
- 10:01more and more of that activity.
- 10:02So I suggest something like this, and.
- 10:07Bil should, uh, happen in northern Italy and it would be where, you know, out in
- 10:13Germany was pretty much mandated by the banks that they had to support the capital
- 10:18in Italy, the IRI, the state holding.
- 10:22To which Alpha Romeo already belonged, would be a good vehicle to provide some
- 10:28serious competition to fiat, which totally dominated the uh, Italian auto scene
- 10:34volume wise and value wise, something needed to be done because frankly, I
- 10:38think people with some foresight knew that companies like ER and Alpha Mayo.
- 10:44By themselves couldn't survive long term.
- 10:47Hindsight tells us that they didn't, but we're back in 1951 ish, two ish.
- 10:53This could have happened.
- 10:54We could have had a conglomerate of different, uh, brands that would cover
- 10:59different segments in the marketplace.
- 11:01They could even have an, um, a foreign branch in France.
- 11:06ARD would be a, a good candidate.
- 11:08In those days, you couldn't trade easily across country boundaries.
- 11:12So Fiat had sim.
- 11:14In France, we would have ARD and uh, we would have a luxury segment
- 11:19where Luncher would play a big role.
- 11:22Ista Fch would also be integrated, the name rights would be acquired,
- 11:26and you would establish the luxury and the top end of the range.
- 11:31With that brand, there would be an entry also, in terms of a tubial.
- 11:37Vehicles and the scooter, a pretty rugged scooter from is O was available.
- 11:43So we have already the low cost entry brand is O auto vehicle that makes this
- 11:49ISTA and they also made the scooter.
- 11:52So we cover that.
- 11:53And also in addition, goes back to last year's presentation.
- 11:57We also have a branch that deals with ag tractors 'cause that helps.
- 12:02Uh, developed the metso join region in Italy, and that's,
- 12:07uh, one of the motivators why.
- 12:09IRI will support the sole effort.
- 12:11This sole effort needs also to be joined by Pelli, which has an
- 12:16interest in promoting their tires.
- 12:18And altogether, this could be a competitor or could be the financial
- 12:23resource, intellectual resource to provide a real competitor to Mercedes.
- 12:28So we have a few individuals here that will constitute the core team.
- 12:34But the head would be Robert Horst, who had ample experience in
- 12:41mid-engine cars at Ion before the war.
- 12:44After the war.
- 12:45He was involved in the Alia 360, which also was designed and outsourced and
- 12:51relocated team of Porsche engineering.
- 12:54Fer.
- 12:54Porsche was incarcerated at the time in France, but his son and some of the
- 12:59old team members were working there.
- 13:02I put here Kois as kind of the project manager in place
- 13:07as the right hand of Iran.
- 13:09Horst, who was certainly the intellectual mastermind, but not necessarily
- 13:13involved in all the nitty gritty.
- 13:15So Nico is, will take care of that.
- 13:18He has, um, experience at the Alfreda program and we bring in.
- 13:23Different generations.
- 13:25I think from my own professional experience, I think it's always
- 13:28very helpful when you have multiple generations on a team, not just an inbred
- 13:34group, so to speak, of gray beards.
- 13:37You need some of them, but you don't want to have the.
- 13:39Whole team of them.
- 13:40So we recruit and those are real people.
- 13:43Of course, as you know, Kalo Kitty and Choto Sini, both
- 13:47are already at Alpha Romeo.
- 13:49It makes sense to rely on them a lot for chassis and for
- 13:53development and test and so on.
- 13:55They're enthused and they come very importantly from the University of Pisa.
- 14:02So they have at least in, in.
- 14:05Case and degree in aeronautical engineering, and we'll see later on
- 14:11that taking license from or learning from aeronautical designs and skills and
- 14:17technologies makes a lot of sense when you want to build a world beat a race car.
- 14:22On the engine side, we lean more on the ER personnel.
- 14:26There is of course Francesco Lio, who pretty much developed
- 14:31the V six engine at Luncher.
- 14:34The principles, at least the angle of 60 degrees.
- 14:38It goes back to him.
- 14:39He analyzed the dynamics of various V angles and when you look at the history
- 14:44of Blanche and you know, they experimented with everything from 11 degrees.
- 14:48Downwards or upwards and 60 degrees is obviously the ideal, but there's also
- 14:54a solution with 120 degrees later on.
- 14:58Dillo found that already in the 1940s, so he is obviously a member of the team.
- 15:05Then, uh, the kina is maybe a more practical engine designer who can detail.
- 15:13An engine war, and he has shown that already as, as a long term
- 15:17launcher engineer, I couldn't get any biographic information on him.
- 15:22Maybe that's where some librarians can help me in the future.
- 15:26And then of course, this fellow here.
- 15:29We'll learn more about him.
- 15:31Jose Mika, who retired in 1950 from the Porsche engineering team.
- 15:36We'll rehire him as a consultant because he's a specialist in aerodynamics, and
- 15:42we understand aerodynamics will play a big role if we want to beat Mercedes.
- 15:46And it's also important to work very closely with the tire manufacturer.
- 15:51So we want to have somebody.
- 15:52I'm not particular about the name from Pelli, from the tire partner
- 15:56because suspension, layout and design will have to be very closely
- 16:02coordinated with the tire capabilities.
- 16:04And so you want to have the tire people on your side.
- 16:07It's one of the lessons also from the Solar Arrow pre-World
- 16:10War II, where Mercedes worked very closely with Continental and
- 16:15that was very helpful to them.
- 16:16Porsche and uh, ot.
- 16:18We're not quite as engaged with Continental, and it was
- 16:23to their detriment sometimes.
- 16:25So the first task of this newly formed team was before you start
- 16:30designing anything, you know, go by this ancient wisdom here.
- 16:34If you know you're enemy and you know yourself.
- 16:36You need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
- 16:39So find out as much as possible about Mercedes.
- 16:42Where are they going?
- 16:43What can you expect from them?
- 16:44Rather than focusing just on your own thoughts and say, we know best
- 16:49how to build the best race car.
- 16:51Anticipate what your enemy or your competitor will
- 16:55do, and then not copy them.
- 16:57The goal is not to copy them.
- 16:59You cannot out Mercedes.
- 17:01Mercedes, you know, if you try.
- 17:03It's a losing battle.
- 17:04You have to do something.
- 17:05You have to look for unfair quote unquote advantages, and you
- 17:09have to do something different.
- 17:10For example, mid-engine layout as opposed to what is most likely
- 17:15mercedes's solution, the front engine.
- 17:16And then as mentioned before, aeronautics holds.
- 17:20A lot of nuggets of wisdom and a lot of technology pieces you want to adopt.
- 17:26So you won't send out people like Ka Kitty to snoop around what's
- 17:31going on in aeronautics and at the universities that still teach that
- 17:35there wasn't too much actual building and designing going on after World War.
- 17:41'cause of restrictions by the Allied forces.
- 17:43So what can you expect reasonably from Mercedes-Benz?
- 17:46Well, we know the company wanted and did indeed, uh, recover from the ashes.
- 17:52There was a lot of rebuilding going on because Mercedes had a very loyal
- 17:57workforce and a lot of people that had survived World War II went back
- 18:01to remove some of the rubbles and to secure some of the machinery
- 18:05and repaired and to improve on it.
- 18:08Uh, it's pretty obvious that AU and Auer will stay engaged.
- 18:13Auer already in his sixties, you can imagine, tend to relive the old days,
- 18:19the glory days of thirties, and that's why he pushed for, you know, this
- 18:23early engagement in Buenos iris in 51 because you thought, Hey, we have
- 18:29the goods still here, and why don't we just refresh a little bit when we.
- 18:33Uh, had been successful with, I think Rudolph, by his nature, was
- 18:38more interested in a clean sheet design and be more in the times
- 18:43then rather than looking backward.
- 18:45What you know about Mercedes is they are very methodical in their development.
- 18:50They're not just going from the drawing board quickly to the foundry.
- 18:54And to the machine shop and then assemble and go to the racetrack.
- 18:58That's not their way of doing things.
- 19:00They will work on components, test the components to death, assemble the
- 19:05components to subsystems test again in the lab, the systems and subsystems to death.
- 19:11When that all works out, then they have a car, and then they will also test it
- 19:16first on a lab with a rolling surface.
- 19:19And before they ever hit the tracks, they will know a lot about the vehicle
- 19:23and its capabilities, and then they will go out to the track finally.
- 19:27And then there's only small modific.
- 19:30Necessary some tuneups.
- 19:32And this leads to a situation, this is one of my rocking horses here that I like
- 19:38to think about and talk about, and that's the evolution strategy as it applies to,
- 19:43uh, technical systems and developments.
- 19:46The speed of progress.
- 19:47You can say it depends on the mutation size.
- 19:52How much do you change you?
- 19:53You start typically with some known platform, state of the
- 19:57art, and if you do very little, there's practically no progress.
- 20:01If you move on, you get onto a pretty steep curve of rapid progress.
- 20:07And, and there's certain window within you can operate.
- 20:10If you're too low here with two small steps of improvement,
- 20:14you're not accomplishing much.
- 20:15If you're going overboard, you end up here, you end up in a alia
- 20:20situation or in, um, a Monaco TRS comes to mind in a freeboard design
- 20:26of a, uh, grand Prix car, which was basically a, an airplane without wings.
- 20:31You know, the, there was a, uh, a radial engine at the front.
- 20:35It was.
- 20:35Hanging over the front exel and mass distribution was something
- 20:38like 70% front and 30% rear, which is a recipe for disaster.
- 20:43Of course, you don't have to be a specialist in engineering to see that.
- 20:47So that was a design that fell somewhere into this part of
- 20:50the, uh, evolution window.
- 20:52Clearly overshot.
- 20:53You want to avoid that.
- 20:55Mercedes was more in this conservative pioneering mode.
- 20:59Some people have characterized the company as.
- 21:02Conservative pioneers, they're going for progress.
- 21:05One example would be that we learn in real history later on, you know, they go
- 21:10from carburate to fuel injection and it's an incremental improvement, but it's one
- 21:15that's solid and it brings some progress.
- 21:17It's very measurable, but they wouldn't go completely to a rotary
- 21:22engine or something right off the bat.
- 21:25There will be a tight budget.
- 21:26Don't expect any state subsidies or payments.
- 21:31Directly or indirectly, because Germany didn't have much surplus to throw around.
- 21:37They had hardly been able to cover the basics.
- 21:40But there would be technical inputs, of course, from suppliers that Mercedes had
- 21:45a tradition working with like Porsche Continental and then the fuel supplier.
- 21:51It was important too because the fuel in those days was free.
- 21:54Formula didn't prescribe commercially available gasoline.
- 21:58You could brew your own mix, which they certainly did.
- 22:01And then there was of course the engineering force within the corporation.
- 22:04You could always ring up a colleague or meet over lunch
- 22:08and get some inputs and so on.
- 22:09So there was quite a bit of intellectual property and capability there.
- 22:15Now Mercedes obviously lost the uh, local nemes.
- 22:19Out on Yon, there was no chance that out on Yon would get back racing.
- 22:23They hardly survived and they were cut into two pieces.
- 22:26One in East Germany and one in West Germany, or one in the Soviet zone.
- 22:31The other one in the American Zone.
- 22:33Uh, so there was no chance for that.
- 22:35So when they did something, it, it would have to have some benefit for their
- 22:41serious production side of the business.
- 22:44And so it's very likely, very probable that they would stick to the front
- 22:49engine because all their commercial.
- 22:51Products would be front engine taken a little dive via Edmund MLA in the 1920s.
- 22:58The, um, say this or the Bens our age var, but that didn't last very long.
- 23:04And so very unlikely that they would make a jump that would to them look like going.
- 23:10Potentially, uh, down the drain, they would probably hang onto the swing
- 23:14AXLs or pendulum AXLs because that was also their bread and butter product.
- 23:19Now, one would expect that they would modify this thing a little
- 23:22bit because we know swing AXLs and we'll get to that in a moment, are
- 23:26not the ca meow for Good Road ho.
- 23:29So a case in point for all this, looking more toward what they have
- 23:33and what they want to commercialize is the uh, W 1 94 project.
- 23:38This 300 SL first generation, that's an excellent model to study.
- 23:44If this case for this question that we have in front of us here, you see this?
- 23:49AU on the 300 representative car and very luxurious and expensive and a dream car.
- 23:55You know, for most Germans, it was totally an Tanium, and yet it
- 24:00showed, you know, we're back again and that would be the basis for
- 24:04this sports car that would go race.
- 24:07So they had an engine and they had to live with this engine because unlike
- 24:11Italians, they didn't jump right into making five different engines.
- 24:15Very quickly, they stuck with the block and with what they had to work with
- 24:19rather than tooling up very quickly.
- 24:21I'm amazed, and some people have written with amazement and with
- 24:25appreciation that, for example, designed 25 engines in five years, which was
- 24:30nuts for a small company like that.
- 24:33Mercedes had this one engine.
- 24:35Which was already an overhead camshaft engine.
- 24:38So a good start, but it was heavy, a boat anchor if you want.
- 24:41So it had to be augmented with other designs that were within
- 24:45the realm of possibility.
- 24:47And one was obviously aerodynamics.
- 24:49And that brings me to this image here, because in 1939 when the, uh, Italians,
- 24:56when they thought they were smart in prescribing, that the uh, grand Prix
- 25:01of Tripoli was for water tourette.
- 25:03Cars instead of regular concrete cars.
- 25:06They thought, well now our feas will have a good chance to win this race.
- 25:10Mercedes, at that time when they still had the pockets designed, the
- 25:13purpose built W 1 65 and sent to cars to Tripoli and, and ended up one two.
- 25:19But during qualification, they had to learn the better lesson that a four
- 25:24cylinder Maserati with a streamlined.
- 25:27Body work got the pole position.
- 25:29It was faster than the Mercedes cars.
- 25:31Unexpected in a way because the engine was clearly inferior.
- 25:34So I think they must have gotten a bit of a lesson there that, hey, we have to look
- 25:39at the, uh, drag reduction and, and so on.
- 25:42Also, again, to, um, study subsystems and obviously roof
- 25:49came up with the, uh, space frame.
- 25:52Concept, a very light frame to offset the high weight of the engine, but
- 25:56it was an unknown quantity and not many people have had built these
- 26:01types of delicate space frames.
- 26:03So they built a very quick mule car to test this concept early on before
- 26:08they ever went too far down the pike and designed this final 300 sl.
- 26:13Super light, but they did.
- 26:15And then to reduce the drag coefficient and to reduce the uh, frontal area,
- 26:20they angled or tilted the engine at about 55 degrees from horizontal
- 26:26to simply reduce the hood height and thereby increase there speed.
- 26:32And here you can see Charles Faru and Alfred Auer looking into the engine
- 26:37bay of that final product at the mall.
- 26:41So continued lessons to be learned from this.
- 26:43First of all, you learn Mercedes.
- 26:46They don't go full four out and design everything from scratch.
- 26:51On the other hand, they're willing to stretch the envelope,
- 26:53you know, to design solutions.
- 26:55Again, somewhat dictated of course by the space for want to have
- 26:59a deep door sill and threshold.
- 27:02They came up with the first iteration of the.
- 27:05Following doors that just reached down to the lower edge of the
- 27:09window, and you had to kind of wiggle yourself into the driver's.
- 27:13When it first got to the Elia in 52 with this scar, the, uh,
- 27:19inspectors were a little bit.
- 27:21Leery to accept that as doors and, and so it was a test for the subsequent
- 27:26LA Mall array, and I think they got into the lia was this type of door,
- 27:32quote unquote, later on for lamo.
- 27:34They changed it to the tall wing doors as we know them today.
- 27:38And that was in reaction to and knowing that they would.
- 27:42Meet less leniency with the French authorities and with
- 27:46the Italian authorities.
- 27:47Of course, in those years we're talking 1952, they also experimented
- 27:52with something that was a little bit out of the ordinary and a little bit
- 27:56advanced or too advanced for Mercedes.
- 27:58One could say this aerodynamic brake system.
- 28:01Some people will argue that was mostly shown during the time trials
- 28:05to confuse irritate competitors.
- 28:08It was never meant to be really used in racing.
- 28:11This was a little flimsy and it was taken down before the race began.
- 28:17But we also learned from this development that Mercedes was
- 28:21willing to accept imperfection.
- 28:23For example, when you look at the engine compartment, it has no ventilation.
- 28:27There is no way to get the air out in an ordinary or in a very optimized way
- 28:32where you help reduce overall drag.
- 28:35They fix that later on by having some openings, yet the side, but not in this
- 28:40first generation of the, uh, 300 ssl.
- 28:43So that was one, and then they stuck to this somewhat questionable.
- 28:48Pendulum rear suspension.
- 28:49Nevertheless, they were victorious in LA Mall and then particular at the
- 28:53car Pan Americana, which was quite an achievement for something that was
- 28:58built from bits and pieces that were originally meant for a luxurious car.
- 29:03Working.
- 29:04On the other hand, what learned from there for the on automobile team is we prefer
- 29:10chassis over engine power battalions.
- 29:13Typically, were interested in, for Ferrari in particular, the race car was
- 29:17a big engine, very powerful, and the rest was just a means to move forward.
- 29:23Chassis was never really his.
- 29:24Preference in those days, at least in this case, our team will think
- 29:29differently and will work with Pelli closely to introduce the radial tires,
- 29:34which Pelli had developed at that time.
- 29:37Not for racing, but for passenger car applications.
- 29:40Uh, sports car applications, Chira.
- 29:44Let's see, 67, and we add on a competition on version of that tire.
- 29:49We'll use it for our dream car.
- 29:52Yeah, of course.
- 29:53That also means the driving style has to be adapted to that.
- 29:58It's not totally easy from people who grew up with cross supplied tires.
- 30:01They have some difficulties and that will require also very methodical testing.
- 30:07Let's look at other components that are important.
- 30:09The chassis frame itself is very important 'cause you want to have a very stiff
- 30:14chassis, and the flexibility has to be in the suspension system and not
- 30:19like letter frames or the frame itself was the spring system for most parts.
- 30:25We have some lessons to learn from Alia, for example, but this Porsche design
- 30:31very strangely has this space frame, but it doesn't make use of triangulation.
- 30:38You don't see that any of these, uh, square gaps are broken
- 30:42up with some triangulation.
- 30:45Very strange.
- 30:45I'm not sure.
- 30:46What their motive was 'cause they were not under weight restrictions.
- 30:51Really, to me that seems like a half-baked solution, knowing the quality
- 30:56of the engineers that were involved.
- 30:58Alpha Romeo with the feta, particularly when they ran to the end of its
- 31:03usefulness and modified it to the uh, 1 59, which had the rear axle had also.
- 31:12At least some specimens had this additional framework here.
- 31:16So you see the original letter frame, oval profile here, and then you can
- 31:21see they already made some augmentation added basically, and upper gird and did,
- 31:27uh, the reinforcement between the two girders quite well, but there was only
- 31:32a partial solution because it didn't have any lateral connection really.
- 31:36But it was better than nothing.
- 31:38What makes more sense is a true 3D space frame, as you can see in
- 31:42some of the airplanes of the time.
- 31:44That's where one of our references to aviation comes in the space
- 31:49frame of a Boeing Stamen plane, which was a training plane.
- 31:53For the most part, it gives us a good idea of spatial triangulation of the frame.
- 31:59Then, of course, we can even go further.
- 32:01But this is one bridge too far.
- 32:03I would argue for race car designers, you could use the geodesic fuselage
- 32:08of British airplanes were successful in World War II and were very
- 32:13immune against partial destruction.
- 32:16They could take a lot of damage and could still go back to the base.
- 32:20You see some spinal framework here that is then cla it by aluminum or fabric.
- 32:27Whatever the material of choice was.
- 32:29This is a little bit too much for race car.
- 32:31It's also not as easily scaled down from the airplane size to the
- 32:36car size, so this is a more likely and more successful solution.
- 32:41This could be foreshadowing of Mono Cox structures, but again, that's one
- 32:47or two bridges too far for the time.
- 32:49Keep in mind, race car designers are also people and they work and concern
- 32:54themselves about their daily lives and their continuation of their careers.
- 32:58If they go too far away, it goes back to that evolution function.
- 33:03If they veer out too far from the known.
- 33:06They risk that they have a big failure, and having a big failure with something
- 33:10that's a traditional design is tolerable.
- 33:13You can always say, well, everybody else did something like that.
- 33:16If you risk and stick out your neck too much with something that's totally unique.
- 33:21And it fails everybody and their brother will say, well,
- 33:25you shouldn't have done that.
- 33:25Right?
- 33:26Could be a career modifying event, but we're talking
- 33:30about wheels and suspensions.
- 33:31Let's start with wheels.
- 33:32First state of the art were wire wheels, and particularly Bani was
- 33:38one of the favorite suppliers for that, but that was also a fairly
- 33:42flexible wheel, and it needed tuning and adjusting and maintenance.
- 33:47Cooper early on after World War ii.
- 33:50Changed over to cast electron wheels, and part of the reason was that it was
- 33:56easier to get aluminum mag magnesium in England after World War II than steel
- 34:01still was rationed and a lot of aluminum was found from war efforts and equipment.
- 34:09So that was one thing.
- 34:10And it was also good for Cooper spare part business.
- 34:14It was a an OEM wheel that couldn't easily be replaced as something else.
- 34:18But more importantly, in the US Heli, brandand had introduced already and proven
- 34:24the, uh, magnesium cast wheels machined then to fit, and that won the 1952 in
- 34:31the 500, and it became commonplace.
- 34:34So I'm wondering why people in Europe didn't look at those.
- 34:38Developments and said, Hmm, there is an advantage here.
- 34:41We save some unsprung weight and we get a more rigid product.
- 34:47That is obviously proven on high speed oils.
- 34:50And then let's look at suspension systems quickly.
- 34:53ER had already introduced with the first generation of the aurel,
- 34:58a semi trailing independent rear suspension, uh, which you can see it.
- 35:04Top view of here would be the a coil spring and the attachment
- 35:08points to the chassis, and it's the drive shaft the wheel.
- 35:13So this would be a start, we think for.
- 35:16Uh, development for an optimized rear wheel suspension, independent suspension.
- 35:21For a race car, it has its pros and cons as well, but you can play
- 35:25a lot with the different angles and orientations of components.
- 35:29You can do that in 3D and get some reductions in tow, in and in Canberra.
- 35:35Change with the, uh, spring deflection.
- 35:38So there's probably something to be found.
- 35:40Now we assume that a Mercedes must stick with the pendulum axles, maybe in this
- 35:47format, but it, it's the one that gives you the highest roll center, and that's
- 35:52not very popular really for race cars.
- 35:54You can really get to the point where you check up the one wheel
- 35:58and it leads to instabilities.
- 36:00You have pretty steep kember angle changes.
- 36:04It's not the best thing for a race car, so we assume that it as well
- 36:08modify that you try to make the, uh, pendulum lengths as long as possible.
- 36:13So you could do something that goes underneath, uh, could even
- 36:17to the opposite side, and you could crisscross the links there.
- 36:21So I would expect they're putting myself into it.
- 36:251952 that it would work on some of this stuff.
- 36:28And what we see here is an interesting car from New Zealand and it dovetails
- 36:34quite well with people that came back from World War ii, had aircraft experience
- 36:39where aircraft mechanics, a couple of folks in New Zealand built their own car.
- 36:45They had studied and read about the Aon.
- 36:49Mid-engine configuration and they said we can build that too, and we can go to
- 36:53the scrap yard or to the, um, auction places where you can buy cheaply.
- 36:58The surplus from the army and from the air Force, and that's what they did.
- 37:03So they built their own interesting car and it had a very low pivot swing
- 37:09axle arrangement, which is shown here in a, in a picture of the renovated
- 37:15or restored version of this car here.
- 37:17This is, looks almost like it's over restored, but it's interesting.
- 37:21You see very long arms of this swing axle.
- 37:25They almost merged to, to a single axis of rotation down here, very low.
- 37:30And they also pilfered some Lio struts from airplanes and
- 37:36used them as spring and damper.
- 37:38Very innovative and very interesting.
- 37:40Car.
- 37:40Not too much is known about this.
- 37:43RA four vineyard, which worked with a four cylinder standard Vanguard engine,
- 37:48slightly supercharged, and it had 2088.
- 37:52C. So it was a formula Lire car and didn't qualify for a Grand Prix,
- 37:58but it was pretty much only raised in New Zealand, but it has been
- 38:02restored in England and it will come to a couple of events in Florida.
- 38:07One is uh, Moda Miami and the other is Amelia.
- 38:12So you will see if you get there, you will see the sky in real life.
- 38:18And can see more than from these pictures, but an interesting way that tinkerers
- 38:23worked on something that made a lot of sense and they had a lot of fun with it.
- 38:28One of the mechanics was then the driver, and he managed to participate
- 38:33at Lady Wig Ram Trophy runs for several years was modest success.
- 38:39Brakes of course are important for the race car.
- 38:41What can you do there?
- 38:43Obviously, ventilated drum brakes were the industry standard fin processes
- 38:48were often used to bond strongly and have a low thermal resistance between
- 38:53the iron liners and the aluminum body.
- 38:57With fins, different shapes of fins.
- 39:00But by 1952, disc brakes became already a possibility for race cars.
- 39:06And again, that's a technology that comes from airplanes.
- 39:10Yeah.
- 39:10During World War ii, a lot of airplanes, British American used already a form of.
- 39:15Disc brakes and there were several manufacturers.
- 39:18Dunlop was one of them.
- 39:19Dunlop worked with Jaguar on, on sports cars and growing with BRM
- 39:24and got that to science already.
- 39:27And then, uh, Tony Derval, who had already started his own activities with
- 39:31the thin wall specials that I want also to have the latest technology in brakes.
- 39:37And he worked with Goodyear and got some disc brake systems there.
- 39:41But we can assume that that technology was off limits for Mercedes.
- 39:45I cannot imagine that any of these companies, particularly Dunlop,
- 39:49that helped Jaguar, would also help Mercedes to beat the snot of Jaguar.
- 39:55I think that was off limits, and I think Mercedes understood that.
- 39:59And so they were.
- 40:00Working with these aerodynamic breaks that we saw already, this roof mounted effort.
- 40:05And there's also a, uh, patent that was issued to Auto Neon in 1941.
- 40:11Fortunately, that image didn't make it, but it's a German patent
- 40:14that was issued, and that shows an aerodynamic break, basically
- 40:18a wing that you can flip up with.
- 40:21Server power from the engine and assist in braking, probably tailored
- 40:26to those records trips that people made on the auto barn, but it could
- 40:30be used in Grand Prix racing as well.
- 40:32There was nothing.
- 40:33That would prohibit that Anyway, that would be one way to get
- 40:37around the, this great embargo that I would think was prevalent.
- 40:43The other thing is driver position is one thing, particularly with the
- 40:47front engine car, the typical bomber seat, you know where you sit pretty
- 40:51upright, like in an arm chair or the chairs you're sitting on, the driver.
- 40:57Sits very upright and provides quite an obstacle to the aerodynamic profile.
- 41:02And fortunately, this picture came across here and that is
- 41:08in, uh, what is called Zenger.
- 41:11He erased this thing that was.
- 41:13Based on the Volkswagen 64 or Porsche 64 project, got one.
- 41:19You know, he was an Austrian, so he was close to the Austrian
- 41:22Porsche office at the time.
- 41:24So he got one of these, uh, 60 fours, which they were intended for the, uh,
- 41:28Berlin, Rome long distance arrays.
- 41:31That never happened, if I recall that correctly.
- 41:34So he got that and you have to consider and had a, a pretty
- 41:40severe motorcycle accident.
- 41:41So his right arm was not useful to him and he needed to be able to lean on the
- 41:48steering wheel when he changed gears.
- 41:49So he had a shifter on left hand side.
- 41:52And he leaned forward on the steering wheel to shift gears.
- 41:56So it was a bit of an aberration.
- 41:57He needed that kind of seating position.
- 41:59But you can see here it's unfortunate.
- 42:01It's, uh, not the optimum solution when you have a rear engine or mid engine.
- 42:06In our case.
- 42:07On the other hand, what we learned from aeronautics, and particularly from
- 42:12glider planes or sail planes, there was a development going on at the, uh,
- 42:17polytechnic in terrain in, uh, 1953 in particular, there was a new Chro d Olo
- 42:25Avela that was founded, and it was kind of an operation in the corner of a lab first.
- 42:31But the, uh, team there wanted to change the whole composition of sail planes.
- 42:37'cause in sail planes, they have no engine.
- 42:39Obviously you need to have a very low frontal profile.
- 42:43You need to have very low drag coefficient.
- 42:46And what they introduced was a leaned backwards position of the pilot.
- 42:52It's almost a position like you find in or found then in the, uh, say the
- 42:57low grand Prix cars, particularly the monocoque versions, you know, and
- 43:01they could also beef that up with, uh, some scientific investigations.
- 43:06I have the source given here that there are optimum angles for body parts.
- 43:12And they're not 90 degrees.
- 43:14And so the upright sitting position is not necessarily the best, particularly
- 43:18if you don't have to have high steering forces to work with, which was one of
- 43:22the reasons why people set so upright or why NASCAR drivers also hang on close to
- 43:28the steering wheel, at least the past.
- 43:30But in the case of a front, well of a, um, car with mid-engine, there's
- 43:35not much load on the front ax.
- 43:36Excellence of the steering effort, it's much lower.
- 43:38So you can get by with this more relaxed.
- 43:42Leaned back sitting position and it's now a standard practice
- 43:45of course in sail planes.
- 43:47But in 53 that was something that was, was pretty new, in fact it was unheard of.
- 43:53And people were wondering, can the pilots do that?
- 43:55And they had some test flights and they felt, Hey, this is great actually.
- 43:59And so, uh, we sent of course Kalo Kitty around different universities.
- 44:05Naturally he has to go to, to and to Milan and understand what's going on there.
- 44:11And so he comes across this and the innovator and the young man who wants
- 44:16to make his place in the history comes across this and says, Hey, why don't
- 44:20we experiment with that and reduce the frontal area of foreign Grand Prix.
- 44:25And that goes on with, with engines also quickly talking
- 44:28about different engine choices.
- 44:31It seems quite reasonable for the two and a half liter formula, first of
- 44:34all, that it shows the, uh, naturally aspirated one and the, uh, supercharged
- 44:39version that was allowed at 750 cc.
- 44:43The penalty for supercharging was just too high.
- 44:46So you look at the 2.5 liter engine and you ask yourself, how
- 44:50many cylinders do you really need?
- 44:52You need 16 cylinders or 24 or or four, maybe six is a good compromise.
- 44:59Very likely because you can see Jaguar was very successful.
- 45:02Was there six cylinders?
- 45:04Mercedes had just proven, uh, with the, uh, 1 94 project that, hey.
- 45:08We can win the races and championships with six cylinder engines.
- 45:11And of course, they had slammed it at Mercedes, their engine.
- 45:15That was brought to an even more dramatic fact in the Cummins Diesels
- 45:20special of 1952 that participated in the Indy 500, and there was Freddie
- 45:26Cummins desire to prove that diesel engines could be very successful in
- 45:31any application, including race cars.
- 45:33So you built this special.
- 45:35Car with the Watson chassis, elongated and modified in many ways, but he chose to
- 45:41tilt the engine practically by 90 degrees.
- 45:44So the crankshaft is about here, and this is the cylinder head.
- 45:48Now this was, uh, overhead valve engine, as I understand it was turbocharged and
- 45:54it was, was tilted for minimum front area.
- 45:57So you could think Mercedes should think about those lines as well.
- 46:01In our case here for mobility, we say, well, Landa is really our
- 46:07flagship brand and it relies on V six engines to a great extent.
- 46:11Why don't we also make our racing engine just like, say that D 20 V
- 46:16six lunch here that they had already at a 60 degree cylinder angle.
- 46:20Makes good sense.
- 46:21It's a short engine.
- 46:22It allows more space for the reclined driver position.
- 46:26So let's do that.
- 46:28But maybe we should change the angle as.
- 46:32The Vergilio had proposed you can do that 220 degrees to make a shallower engine.
- 46:38So I put in this image here, which to be honest is not from the time we're talking
- 46:44about this, uh, a more recent South African aircraft engine, and it's a 120.
- 46:51Degree V six cylinder engine, just to show you what the, the
- 46:55form factor would look like.
- 46:57I think that would give a pretty optimal configuration for a, uh, mid engine
- 47:03configuration that minimizes the frontal area and the, uh, a drag coefficient.
- 47:09That's it.
- 47:09So we assume that Mercedes will do this and, and use an inline six
- 47:15system, which we can't know at the time that that was the wrong assumption.
- 47:19Uh, I can live with that.
- 47:20And fuel injection is almost inevitable.
- 47:23And the, um, question is, can you even go as far as direct injection into the
- 47:28combustion chamber, or do you allow for an indirect injection ahead of the, uh.
- 47:35Inlet valves.
- 47:36Mercedes obviously had some experience in the, uh, DB 601 aircraft engine of
- 47:43World War II with direct injection, and we know that Schonberg, who was
- 47:48the engineer involved, was parked at the time, still at a small company.
- 47:52Mm-hmm.
- 47:53Called Good Broad until he got through his deification process
- 47:57and then could join Mercedes again.
- 47:59Very likely that he would push for an adaptation of this kind of injection.
- 48:05On the other hand, Italy had quite a lot to offer in terms
- 48:08of indirect uh, injection.
- 48:11Fellow Avi Fudo had patented the application in in 1937, a solution for.
- 48:20A very smart electrical injection.
- 48:23Very much like most cars that we drive today have their injection
- 48:28system and no electronics obviously.
- 48:30'cause that wasn't invented yet, but the basic makings were already there.
- 48:34And this thing raised in the, uh, Elia of, uh, 1940.
- 48:39There was an alpha Romeo, two and a half liter six C equipped with
- 48:44this type of injection system.
- 48:45And it ran on a mix of palm oil.
- 48:48I understand.
- 48:49And some other non-conventional fuel component.
- 48:53'cause that was when Italy was in this archy.
- 48:57Mode and couldn't import a lot of mineral oil.
- 49:00And so it was a, a theme that fit into the landscape and it, it demonstrated and
- 49:05also in a gera motorbike, as I understand that the system worked quite well.
- 49:11It got forgotten for quite some time, but you could see electromagnetic
- 49:15injection valves here, actuated and timed by a distributor system.
- 49:21Very much like your time, the ignition.
- 49:23So it was not a continuous injection.
- 49:25Like say the Hillborn system in the US would've been.
- 49:28So that's basically what we decide, or we leave it to the engineering team.
- 49:33Do they want to go with a speaker direct injection that they also
- 49:37have at their disposal within for Mayo, or when they go with something
- 49:41like this indirect injection.
- 49:43So then we say our, our special source will be the emphasis on aerodynamics
- 49:49and we want to create downforce.
- 49:51And we saw this picture of the TAD yesterday that was explained to us.
- 49:55You can see the fellow who was behind it was a, uh, who was behind the
- 50:00patent that you see figures from here.
- 50:02And you can see that he not only had side wings, but he also had an elevated
- 50:09wing with end caps and all the makings of a modern aerodynamic concept.
- 50:13So we put all this together into a final product and we think we can beat Mercedes.
- 50:21On a good day, not always, but on a good day.
- 50:29Thank you, Carl.
- 50:31I think we have some questions.
- 50:32My thing that strikes me always when you have these discussions, why wasn't
- 50:37this sort of analysis carried out then?
- 50:40It's very capable.
- 50:41Everything's there.
- 50:42Mm-hmm.
- 50:43So why was the contemporary thinking not along these lines?
- 50:48Because it's, I know it is just retroactively.
- 50:50Yeah.
- 50:51But all that was available then.
- 50:54Yeah.
- 50:54And I limit myself particularly to the availability of
- 50:58technology bits and pieces.
- 51:00In hindsight, it's very easy to throw in electronics, for example,
- 51:03which wasn't available then.
- 51:05But a good answer of that is.
- 51:08I think I mentioned it briefly, people want to survive in
- 51:11their organizations, right?
- 51:13And for example, if you're in it, at least in the time when computers
- 51:18first came up, if you specified IBM computers, you were home free.
- 51:24It didn't matter that they were not as functional performance wise.
- 51:29They may have had bad service whatsoever, but it was IBM.
- 51:33And so if you were issuing the purchase order for IBM computers.
- 51:38You survived easily, even if things fell by the wayside, if you would've specified
- 51:43some more exotic, more powerful computer and it would've given you difficulties.
- 51:48Everybody points at you and says, you, why did you do that?
- 51:53You know, how could you do that?
- 51:55So it's always safer to stay with the incumbent solutions, and it takes risk.
- 52:00It takes the right personalities to venture out a little bit.
- 52:04And with this.
- 52:05Evolution window, you have to be really careful not to
- 52:08go too far out and and fail.
- 52:10So I think there's more incentive for playing it safe than being too daring.
- 52:17And there's a herd mentality.
- 52:19So if everybody uses Webber Carburetors in rating, why
- 52:23should I do something different?
- 52:24Right?
- 52:25But if you want to beat the other guy, as I mentioned, you cannot out Mercedes.
- 52:30Mercedes, don't even try it.
- 52:33You have to do something different and you have to take the risk
- 52:35and to be willing to risk.
- 52:37I think Iran Horst had demonstrated it throughout his career that
- 52:41he was willing to do that.
- 52:43Thank you, Carl.
- 52:44Thank you.
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