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What Does Matt Patricia Want To See During The Ohio State Spring Game? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: inside the Horseshoe on Friday morning where the final pre
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  Speaker 1: spring game practice that Buckeyes will be working out in
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  Speaker 1: front of the Ohio High School Coaches Association, obviously a
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  Speaker 1: very very big turnout of high school coaches. And then
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  Speaker 1: Brian Day and his coaching staff will put on their
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  Speaker 1: coaches clinic a little later on in the day and
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  Speaker 1: that's a traditional pre spring game thing. It's given me
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  Speaker 1: be a very busy weekend inside the Woody Hayes Athletic
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  Speaker 1: Center between recruiting visits and the coaches clinic and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. We'll have plenty of coverage of all of
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  Speaker 1: that for you that Friday morning for you coming from
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  Speaker 1: the horseshoe, we'll hover an instant reaction. Show just started
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  Speaker 1: talking about what we saw there. And then, of course
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  Speaker 1: is the spring game. Plenty of plenty of coverage all
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  Speaker 1: day long there as well, So lot's coming up in
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  Speaker 1: the next couple of days. But before we get to
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  Speaker 1: all that, I wanted to let you hear one more
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  Speaker 1: time from new defensive coordinator Matt Patricia. He's been one
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  Speaker 1: of the big stories of the spring. It was his
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  Speaker 1: hiring in and of itself was kind of a big story.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's sort of bringing what you know, what
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  Speaker 1: is he bringing that's new, What is he bringing that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be sort of maintaining some status quo from
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  Speaker 1: the Jymnules year years. We'll be talking about all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Let you hear directly from Matt Patricia.
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  Speaker 1: He had some very interesting stuff to say this week.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into all that, just what is
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  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia looking for from the defense during the spring
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  Speaker 1: game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking for a lot of things. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited, Like let's get in the shoe, let's
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  Speaker 2: get the fans there, let's feel the environment, the energy,
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  Speaker 2: just getting a little bit of that last Saturday with
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  Speaker 2: everybody kind of in the indoor, that excitement. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's that's fun, you know, I mean, we're getting that
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  Speaker 2: feel for it. So I'm excited to see the fans.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited to get the I think one of the
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  Speaker 2: things defensively, you're always trying to, you know, practice in
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  Speaker 2: these situations communication, right, So it's it's always gonna be
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  Speaker 2: hard at home for us to communicate because our fans
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  Speaker 2: are great and it's going to be lowed for the opponent,
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  Speaker 2: which is what we want. So our communication has to
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  Speaker 2: be on point, our recognition has to be on point.
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  Speaker 2: I think, you know, this is obviously new for me,
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  Speaker 2: not having like in a while, having preseason games, right,
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  Speaker 2: so the next time we go in that stadium to play,
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  Speaker 2: it's for real. So just our overall operation coaching staff
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  Speaker 2: to make sure we're communicating well, make sure we're getting
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  Speaker 2: substitutions and personnel groups and all of that. Like, this
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  Speaker 2: is a good opportunity for us to get a drive
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  Speaker 2: run at that before you know, we get to that
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  Speaker 2: first game, so that's really important. And then you know,
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  Speaker 2: of course we want to see everybody compete, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the different positions and the different opportunities that everybody
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  Speaker 2: has to go out and you know, get a chance
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  Speaker 2: to look at that tape and get another evaluation of
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  Speaker 2: where they're at. So there's a lot it's it's it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be great. I can't you know, let's go. It's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be awesome.
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  Speaker 1: When Patricia got to Ohio State, how much did he
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  Speaker 1: just sort of look at Caleb Downs and just kind
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  Speaker 1: of start dreaming about all the different things you could
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  Speaker 1: do with the player intelligent and that talented. And then
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  Speaker 1: how also how about someone like Jermaine Matthews, because we've
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  Speaker 1: seen them moving him around quite a bit as well
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  Speaker 1: from outside and then also in the slot the spring.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when you have pieces like Caleb and guys
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  Speaker 2: at that football knowledge that he has and his instincts,
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  Speaker 2: and it's been great the more that he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: been out there to really watch him on the field
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  Speaker 2: and how he moves, how he deciphers the game and
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  Speaker 2: how he sees it. He loved those type of players
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  Speaker 2: for sure, you know, and being able to relate that
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  Speaker 2: to some things that we can do with him and
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  Speaker 2: put him in those positions is It's fun. It's fun.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's dynamic. Now, I mean this guy is he's smart. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he plays extremely aggressive, he can he really knows the
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  Speaker 2: offense well, you know, so like based on whether it's
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  Speaker 2: formation or split, like he's id and everything, and he
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  Speaker 2: does a great job of communicating on the field. So
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  Speaker 2: he's been a lot of fun for sure. Jermaine. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: super competitive guy, guy who's got great ability speed, quickness,
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  Speaker 2: and then that position flex to be able to go
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  Speaker 2: outside inside and some of the things that we do
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  Speaker 2: coverage wise, where these guys are actually playing in a
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  Speaker 2: couple different positions, you know, just based on form and
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  Speaker 2: motions and things like that. It's been pretty impressive, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with his skill set to be able to do all that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been fun. That group is That group is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. They are dynamic, they have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talent, They are competitive as all get out,
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  Speaker 2: and it's fun because you know, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I've ever seen wide receivers this big like all
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  Speaker 2: is a group. I Mean it's like every time I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: can you rush? Like how big?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are These guys are genormous. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're edge setters. But to have that competition
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  Speaker 2: every single day and to be able to go out
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  Speaker 2: there and watch our guys step up to that challenge,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Patricia has a somewhat unique experience in terms of winning championships.
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  Speaker 1: He's won three Super Bowls with the Patriots as an
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  Speaker 1: assistant coach under Bill Belichick. So this is not a
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  Speaker 1: brand new thing for him in terms of, Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: you've won the won the championship one year, Now you
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  Speaker 1: got to go do it another year. So he was
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  Speaker 1: asked about the response from the Ohio State players and
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs in particular asking the coaching staff to take
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  Speaker 1: down some of the championship banners and the other stuff
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  Speaker 1: that was sort of hanging and hanging around the facility.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a really mature approach by them, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something that was I think one of
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  Speaker 2: the great things about football. Whatever level you're at, it's
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  Speaker 2: different than other sports. You know, it's different then it's
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  Speaker 2: different than boxing. You know, like when you win a
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  Speaker 2: championship in boxing, the next time you step in the
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  Speaker 2: ring you step in is the champion. You have to
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  Speaker 2: defend your title. You know, when you win a championship
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  Speaker 2: in football, the next time you step on the field,
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  Speaker 2: it's something new. It's a new season, it's a new team.
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  Speaker 2: You have to start over. You know, you're not defending anything.
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  Speaker 2: What you won, you won like that can't be taken
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  Speaker 2: away from you. You know, that was last season. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a really mature approach by them for
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  Speaker 2: you know, sit there and say, hey, look, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: about going forward. You know, we can't look back. It's
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  Speaker 2: about going forward. It's about building the journey this year
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  Speaker 2: to try to get back to where we want to be.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to start all over again, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you got to start at the bottom. So that's
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  Speaker 2: it's a great that's a great mentality.
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  Speaker 1: Another one kind of dealing with Caleb Downs. Downs has
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  Speaker 1: not played a ton this spring. He's been sort of
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  Speaker 1: limited and hit plenty of plenty of time on the field.
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  Speaker 1: He took the most snaps of anyone on the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State team last year, so that you knew it was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be sort of a light spring for him. But
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  Speaker 1: what that is done is that has opened up playing
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  Speaker 1: time for Malik Hartford and Jalen McClain to guys who
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  Speaker 1: are fighting to be the guy who plays next to
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  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs during the season. So what has what has
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  Speaker 1: Matt mactrisi as seen from that competition between Lake, Hartford,
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  Speaker 1: Jail and McClain for that starting safety spot opposite Caleb Downs.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think it's been really good with both
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  Speaker 2: those guys learning and competing and playing a couple of
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  Speaker 2: different roles, you know, a couple different spots, and Caleb
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  Speaker 2: is out there for some things, you know, and there's
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  Speaker 2: other things that we're holding them back on. So they've
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  Speaker 2: actually had an opportunity to both be out there quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit and really to be able to evaluate the
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  Speaker 2: different things that they can do skill set wise. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's some different packages that we can run
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  Speaker 2: with those guys on the field and different alignments that
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  Speaker 2: they could be in. So it's just a great evaluation
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  Speaker 2: right now of seeing you know, some deep field play,
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  Speaker 2: some down in the box play, some maybe a man
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  Speaker 2: demand coverage stuff with them. We've got some different things
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  Speaker 2: in like that intermediate zone where they're kind of reading
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  Speaker 2: routes and breaking and I would say both are really
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  Speaker 2: shining and showing their skill sets that we can utilize
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  Speaker 2: them in those situations.
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  Speaker 1: Another young player who's come on very strong this spring
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  Speaker 1: is Peyton Pierce, second year linebacker out of Texas. He
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  Speaker 1: was very, very impressive when we got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: watch the student appreciation practice last weekend, and seems like
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  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is pretty impressed with him as well. So
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  Speaker 1: what do is Matt Patricia like about Peyton Pierce?
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  Speaker 2: You know, one thing about Peyton Pierce right away, like
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  Speaker 2: we go to inside drill or anything like, everyone's gonna
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  Speaker 2: feel Peyton Pierce right away. He comes downhill with a
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  Speaker 2: physicality that is, it's phenomenal like he is. He is
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  Speaker 2: a physical, physical player. I think. One of the other
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  Speaker 2: things on top of that. You know, So he's doing
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  Speaker 2: a great job with all that he's but the build
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  Speaker 2: on that his communications command linebacker. You have to be
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  Speaker 2: able to get in there, call the huddle, make sure
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  Speaker 2: we get adjustments right, get the front correct, communicate with
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  Speaker 2: the back end. And I think that's the piece of
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  Speaker 2: it right now for me that's really improved through the
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  Speaker 2: spring is just his overall command understanding of the defense
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  Speaker 2: and then his communication to get everybody, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of set and lined up and ready to go. It's
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  Speaker 2: been good.
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  Speaker 1: Patricia has coached in college before, but it's been a
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  Speaker 1: couple decades, so this has been very different for guy
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  Speaker 1: who's used to the NFL and where a guy gets
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  Speaker 1: hurt or a guy you maybe think, hey, we may
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  Speaker 1: need to supplement the roster just bringing a guy on waivers.
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  Speaker 1: You can do that anytime you want, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: bring someone in on waivers and you know, in any
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  Speaker 1: week you want to do it, you can do it.
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  Speaker 1: So now this after the transfer portal window closes following
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  Speaker 1: the spring, that's it. You kind of got what you got.
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  Speaker 1: So how much of a challenge does that present?
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  Speaker 2: I think you always want to develop players. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the best thing to do within a system is
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  Speaker 2: to try to you know, you want to grow, groom them,
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  Speaker 2: you want to grow them, you want to increase their
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  Speaker 2: skill set and their fundamentals because you know those are
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  Speaker 2: the guys you're working with every single day. And it
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  Speaker 2: is similar there's there's only certain times of the year,
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  Speaker 2: even in the NFL where you can actually add to
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  Speaker 2: your roster. So you're going to get to points where
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  Speaker 2: your roster is what it is. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: guys that have been able to show also position flexibility.
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  Speaker 2: So whether they can move out to different techniques, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's a five to a three or a three to
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  Speaker 2: a shade, shade back out to a three, those are
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  Speaker 2: the guys then that that's where your depth comes. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe you're a guy that's maybe a backup noseguard that
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  Speaker 2: you know, you'd rather have him out there and then
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  Speaker 2: move the other guy out to a three technique. So
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  Speaker 2: it's really kind of that structure of where those guys
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  Speaker 2: can go. But I think you're always trying to develop,
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  Speaker 2: you know, always trying to bring those guys along, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's like I tell them, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: just prove us right, like that's why you're here. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we believe in you, like we know you can go
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  Speaker 2: do it. So we're going to do everything we can
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  Speaker 2: to help you, you know, achieve everything you want to
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  Speaker 2: and that's going to be the best for the team.
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  Speaker 2: So I think those guys are working really hard. Coach
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  Speaker 2: Johnson does a great job. I mean all the drill
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  Speaker 2: lerk if you gets if you get a chance to
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  Speaker 2: watch Coach ja do his drill work, it's the detail
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  Speaker 2: of the hand placement and the footwork and the you know,
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  Speaker 2: just the coaching points that he puts them through. Those
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  Speaker 2: guys are they're blessed to me in that situation to
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  Speaker 2: get all that information, and then those guys are just
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  Speaker 2: continually build on that and and grow. You know, as
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  Speaker 2: a player. You can really see that, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can see why those guys develop every single year.
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  Speaker 1: One of the areas where there's certainly been some speculation
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  Speaker 1: the Buck guys maybe dipping into the transfer portal after
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  Speaker 1: the spring is the defensive line, especially the depth and
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  Speaker 1: the interior of that defensive line. So, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: that being maybe the one of the biggest concerns on
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  Speaker 1: the team right now, where has Matt Patricia seen the
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  Speaker 1: most growth from the defensive line this spring?
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  Speaker 2: I think the guys have done a really good job
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  Speaker 2: with the multiplicity of some of the things that we're
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  Speaker 2: doing right now and moving around and kind of being
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  Speaker 2: in some different spots just to kind of get an
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  Speaker 2: evaluation of it, you know, to see if we can
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  Speaker 2: have some of that depth and put them in those alignments.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's been pretty impressive. I think our
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  Speaker 2: pad level has gotten better, you know. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the things when you start out and you're
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  Speaker 2: back in practice and you're rolling and it's the beauty
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  Speaker 2: of spring. Well we actually have we have equipment on
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  Speaker 2: so you actually get to evaluate this stuff and not
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  Speaker 2: have to wait till training camp, which is awesome. So
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  Speaker 2: we've made strides there, you know, hand placement pad level,
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  Speaker 2: which is you know, leverage upfront, which is what we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna need. So that would be the biggest area I've
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  Speaker 2: really seen, like guys just kind of really getting better technique.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned earlier, it has been something of a
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  Speaker 1: light spring for Caleb Downs. He's been out there a
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  Speaker 1: little bit but really kind of taking it easy for
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  Speaker 1: the most part. So how much of an opportunity has
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  Speaker 1: that presented for guys like Malitte Hartford and Jailing and
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  Speaker 1: even Lee Roy Roker.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's always opportunity when guys aren't on the field,
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  Speaker 2: And certainly you want Caleb on the field. He's really
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  Speaker 2: good and kind of help settle the communication. He's a
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  Speaker 2: great player. But look, when guys aren't on the field,
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  Speaker 2: it's the opportunity for someone else to go in and
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  Speaker 2: step into some different roles and have an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: go make some plays and flash, you know, for the
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  Speaker 2: coaches and for their teammates. I think all of those
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  Speaker 2: guys you know that you mentioned have done that you know,
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  Speaker 2: and have done it at different points, and now it's
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  Speaker 2: just building on the consistency of that. You know. Whereas
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  Speaker 2: you have a player like Caleb that has proven that
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  Speaker 2: he can consistently show that kind of production in that performance,
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  Speaker 2: those other guys are now having those reps to be
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  Speaker 2: able to have enough, you know, built up to show that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: they can do it consistently and be in the right
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  Speaker 2: positions and make the communication and make the play. So
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  Speaker 2: that's been the best part about it for those guys,
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  Speaker 2: just having all of those reps. And you know, again
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  Speaker 2: I say this one too, it's we we only have
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  Speaker 2: so many games, so you have to get better at practice.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's just what it is. It's different than you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, baseball, you play games to get better. Football,
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  Speaker 2: we got to practice to get better nothink. Having those
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  Speaker 2: guys to be able to have those reps has been invaluable.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, Patricia was asked, just in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: base defense for this year, is the four two five?
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  Speaker 1: Does that look the four defensive lineman, two linebackers, five
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  Speaker 1: guys in the secondary, is that the best base for
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  Speaker 1: his defense based on what he's seen so far. Is
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  Speaker 1: he looking at losing maybe more three linebacker looks than
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  Speaker 1: they have in the past. What is are his thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on that?
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  Speaker 2: I think you know, four, two, five or the Nickel sets.
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  Speaker 2: You know, in the variations of those Nickel sets are
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  Speaker 2: just so prominent in football right now because of there's
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  Speaker 2: so much eleven personnel and then the twelve personnel, which
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  Speaker 2: is the two tight end sets that play like eleven
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  Speaker 2: or the open up formation. So you got to be
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  Speaker 2: a little bit multiple to be able to do all
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  Speaker 2: of that. But you know, when you got to get
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  Speaker 2: in base and get into you know, three linebackers or
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  Speaker 2: some version of that, you have to be able to
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  Speaker 2: stop the run. And certainly that I think also picks
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  Speaker 2: up critical situations, whether it's third down, low red area,
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  Speaker 2: or you're just getting a big, bigger offensive personnel groups
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  Speaker 2: out there. So having all of that is important. Being
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  Speaker 2: able to be multiple out of the out of the
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  Speaker 2: Nickel packages is you know something I think that's really
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  Speaker 2: important too. And then there's different variations of those Nickel
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  Speaker 2: packages that with as much talent and which is much
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  Speaker 2: the guys that we have in that room. I think
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  Speaker 2: we can do some of that and be versatile that way,
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  Speaker 2: which would be great.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we will be back at Ohio Stadium Friday morning,
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  Speaker 1: get a chance to watch that final pre spring game practice,
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  Speaker 1: have an instant reaction show for you following that, and
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