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Animatronics (w/ Shayne Topp) · Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists.
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  Speaker 2: Today we talk to Hollywood's biggest robot creators animatronics.
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  Speaker 3: Animatronics or mechanical puppetry popularized by movies like Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: Et and a bunch of other flicks from that time.
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  Speaker 3: They are puppets or figures that enapl and use the
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  Speaker 3: use of roboticry and sometimes even artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 4: So put your hand in a sock and play along.
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  Speaker 4: Let's listen in.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, what a great crew we have here.
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  Speaker 6: This is fantastic. Y'all are said my favorite animatronic people.
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  Speaker 6: It's great to see y'all.
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  Speaker 7: Well, be careful, we're not animatronic people. We are people
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  Speaker 7: who work in animatronics.
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  Speaker 1: I like the word artists very.
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  Speaker 8: Very because innomatronic people are the people we create.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, exactly, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh should we go around and say our names?
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  Speaker 6: I would love that go around. Yeah, Well I'll start.
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  Speaker 6: My name is TJ.
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  Speaker 5: Thibodeau.
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  Speaker 6: I am an animatronic worker and I worked on those
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  Speaker 6: hot animatronics down at Avatar World in Disney World. I've
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  Speaker 6: worked on a lot of animatronics for Disney in the past,
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  Speaker 6: and my recent most recent project was those beautiful, beautiful
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  Speaker 6: aid blue alien creatures from Avatar.
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  Speaker 8: Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, I'm Donnie Jones, and I make animatronics that are
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  Speaker 4: a little unexpected. You may not even know that they
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  Speaker 4: are animatronics, but you know when a mother is holding
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  Speaker 4: a baby and the baby is too young to be
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  Speaker 4: an actor, that is what I do. I make it
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  Speaker 4: so that the blanket wriggles around a little bit. So
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  Speaker 4: myronics are little, itty bitty babies.
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  Speaker 1: A really important line of work. Dottie.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Buster Reverend, and I built the
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  Speaker 2: one and only.
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  Speaker 1: Shark in Jaws. Haven't been hired since.
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  Speaker 8: It's really wonderful to meet you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Been in the business a long time, but been on
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  Speaker 2: a really long hiatus.
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  Speaker 5: Do you feel like you are a one hit wonder?
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  Speaker 4: Do you feel like you have more in store?
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  Speaker 1: I don't use that word in my household. H My
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  Speaker 1: ex wife sure does.
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  Speaker 8: She is still in your household.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the bitch won't leave.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really excited to get to talking to you guys,
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  Speaker 2: because I believe our industry changes every month. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very much of the old school animatronics, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: really trying to get back in there and see what's
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  Speaker 2: going on now with you, youngins.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I cannot wait to tell you about it. My
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  Speaker 7: name is Noah Viktrolla. I work on animals. I work
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  Speaker 7: on all sorts of animals in Harry Potter and many
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  Speaker 7: other areas. Animals that come in that are made of
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  Speaker 7: robots and I make them. I love animals and it's
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  Speaker 7: very fun for me. I like to make feathers on robots.
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  Speaker 7: I like to put different types of things around, and
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  Speaker 7: that's what I do. So when you see an owl,
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  Speaker 7: it might not be an owl, it might actually be
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  Speaker 7: an animal.
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  Speaker 8: I mean it might misspoke.
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  Speaker 7: I never misspeak. I usually am very precise with my words.
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  Speaker 7: I must be really nervous because a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: around here.
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  Speaker 8: Are my heroes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's so sweet.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I started in my garage and to be here with
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  Speaker 7: some pros, I am stunned and honored. I meant that
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  Speaker 7: sometimes it's not an animal, sometimes it is a robot
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  Speaker 7: or an animatronic being.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you greetings. My name is Jeffrey Funk. You might
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  Speaker 9: know my work. I've been working in anmatronics for thirty years.
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  Speaker 9: I've worked on Healthscape, Healthscape two, No Escape and of
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  Speaker 9: course we bought a zoo.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I just to hear that you worked
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  Speaker 6: out we bought a zoo.
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  Speaker 9: It was it was my magnum opus.
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  Speaker 7: You could say that is one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 7: I am so stunned to be here today, because your
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  Speaker 7: work and we bought a zoo is the reason I
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  Speaker 7: am doing what I am doing.
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  Speaker 1: What we worked together, you did, h Evan Almighty, right,
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  Speaker 1: we both do.
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  Speaker 8: We both do animals.
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  Speaker 9: That's right, you.
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  Speaker 1: Did Evan Almighty and Bruce Almighty too.
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  Speaker 9: I did do those. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, what your work, your anthology of stuff is just
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  Speaker 2: your your work is it's so.
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  Speaker 9: It's that's seen in Bruce Almighty. Yeah. When Jennifer Aniston's.
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  Speaker 4: Breasts, Yes, how did you make the breast?
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  Speaker 5: How did he make those breasts grown?
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  Speaker 9: You'd think they would have used c g I, but no,
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  Speaker 9: those were robotic breasts. That is incrediblely taped hers down,
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  Speaker 9: put robotic breasts over and they had several types of
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  Speaker 9: pistons on the insides, in fact, upwards of a hundred
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  Speaker 9: on each breast, and they expanded. I heard the noise
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  Speaker 9: was unbearable, absolutely excruciating.
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  Speaker 1: That is the work I'm trying to get into.
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  Speaker 9: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard it sounded like the Jaws of Life.
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  Speaker 9: It I know a thing or two about the chance
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  Speaker 9: of life.
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  Speaker 7: I also heard that you and Bruce Almighty were responsible
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  Speaker 7: for the scene where the monkey ripped its way out
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  Speaker 7: of someone's asshole.
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  Speaker 6: That is also, God, I can't believe that was animatronics.
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  Speaker 4: You.
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  Speaker 5: So you made boobs and an assho.
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  Speaker 1: What a dream?
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  Speaker 4: What a dream job.
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  Speaker 5: To make boobs and an asshole?
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  Speaker 1: This is why we do this. We're over here talking
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  Speaker 1: about fishes and babies.
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  Speaker 6: You're doing the real stuff, the stuff we're all trying
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  Speaker 6: to get into.
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  Speaker 9: The Green Berets of animatronics.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, you are like the heroes. You're not the Navy Seals,
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  Speaker 6: the Green Berets.
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  Speaker 5: Specific I have, I have.
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  Speaker 7: A poster of you in my uh well, it wasn't
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  Speaker 7: my room, and then I moved into.
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  Speaker 5: My bathroom, okay, of which myself.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, of you, standing next to of course the asshole and.
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  Speaker 9: The absolutely shredded they do. It was a massive marketing
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  Speaker 9: strategy only in Ohio.
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  Speaker 8: It was come for gym, stay for the ass.
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  Speaker 6: So I got a question about that. Was it a
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  Speaker 6: real monkey, animatronic asshole? Animatronic asshole. Animatronic monkey, Yeah, what
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  Speaker 6: was real?
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  Speaker 5: What was built? Because I cannot tell watching that movie
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 9: An animatronic asshole in both However, we did use a
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  Speaker 9: real monkey first. It unfortunately did not.
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  Speaker 5: Make it got caught in the asshole a classic asshole.
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  Speaker 9: Closed.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a really good topic of conversation to talk
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  Speaker 2: about when your robot out does some of the abilities
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  Speaker 2: that the humans on set can do, right, when we
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  Speaker 2: build unsafe environments almost and it's it's safety, i'd say,
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  Speaker 2: is a huge part of animatronics, and it has been
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  Speaker 2: since the eighties very important.
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  Speaker 7: Well, some people here work in films, some people here
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  Speaker 7: working in parks, right, so who all has.
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  Speaker 8: Worked in parts? You have worked in parks.
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  Speaker 5: I've worked in park You worked in parks as well well.
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  Speaker 9: Tangentially, I pioneered a type of device software for animatronics
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  Speaker 9: to feel pain, and they've actually used that in the
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  Speaker 9: animatronics in the whole of Presidents. Every single one of
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  Speaker 9: the presidents in disney Land feels pine.
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  Speaker 6: And this is really interesting because I work with Disney
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  Speaker 6: a lot, and this is a debate we have all
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  Speaker 6: the time. Why did we install this? Why did we
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  Speaker 6: make an animatronic feel pain. It's we're we're really tiptoeing
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  Speaker 6: the light of what it needs to be humid and
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  Speaker 6: what it needs to be a Ralebut the pain.
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  Speaker 4: Is it is it? Is it emotional or is it physical?
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  Speaker 9: Oh, it's like a mix of bones.
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  Speaker 5: It's holy shit.
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  Speaker 9: People want to say something real? Is what we've discovered
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  Speaker 9: because I've walked.
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  Speaker 4: Into the hollow presidents and I've never looked at the
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  Speaker 4: presidents as physically in pain in any way. So is
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  Speaker 4: it just to give them an internal life that that
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  Speaker 4: we're not aware of.
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  Speaker 9: What's fascinating is the software to experience Pine is moving
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  Speaker 9: faster than the software to have the animatronics express it.
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  Speaker 9: They're feeling that they're simply trapped in their own animatronic
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  Speaker 9: deeply haunting?
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  Speaker 5: Do you feel as an artist, Marsh?
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  Speaker 2: Do you feel as an artist a lot of uh,
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  Speaker 2: just shame in making things feel pain?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely not buster.
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  Speaker 7: I wanted to mention too that I heard that in
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  Speaker 7: the Haunted Mansion they actually made all the ghosts crave
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  Speaker 7: human bodies like their food, right, so they want so
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  Speaker 7: it looks like they want to be in the bodies.
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  Speaker 8: Is that really?
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely? I've heard that's absolutely true. That is crazy, and
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  Speaker 9: that's why the experience feels so real. It's silly, but
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  Speaker 9: you're actually in danger.
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  Speaker 2: Can you locate the place of pain that the robot
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  Speaker 2: is feeling.
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  Speaker 9: Well, it depends on which president or animatronic. In the
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  Speaker 9: case of Abraham Lincoln, he's feeling an explosive pain in
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  Speaker 9: the back of his head at all times. That's to
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  Speaker 9: make the experience real and to in a sense, give
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  Speaker 9: him life after his excruciating death.
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  Speaker 8: I heard George W. Bush feels the pain in his heart.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know that's true.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I see, I think George W.
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  Speaker 9: Bush. I think.
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  Speaker 5: George you Bush.
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  Speaker 6: The real person doesn't feel pain, but the end of
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  Speaker 6: a tronic.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where the artist becomes an artist. No, you
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  Speaker 2: wanted to make that a reality.
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  Speaker 9: And obviously what point does this become voodoo dolls?
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's also a very good question for it for
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  Speaker 6: our you know, whole career. I mean, what point is
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  Speaker 6: this voodoo? What point is this making other lives? What
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  Speaker 6: point are we put put putting ourselves and crossing the line.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if there's an idea that we are trying
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  Speaker 4: to play god by baking puppets.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's what we're doing.
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  Speaker 9: I do not.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're trying to make a movie.
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  Speaker 7: I think what is frustrating to me is the idea
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  Speaker 7: of uncanny value. I think it has it has stuck
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  Speaker 7: us in so many corners and people saying, oh, this
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  Speaker 7: is a little too close to real life. Oh this
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  Speaker 7: is freaking me out, and that is inappropriate, and that
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  Speaker 7: is wrong, and I.
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  Speaker 8: Do not like that.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I think if something is weird and it's a
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  Speaker 7: human being doing something weird, if a human being is
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  Speaker 7: taking a dump in the middle of the street, I
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  Speaker 7: don't freak out. I say that's somebody doing something weird.
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  Speaker 7: So if there is a robot that it's weird to you,
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  Speaker 7: then you need to leave that alone because that is
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  Speaker 7: just like.
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  Speaker 8: Just like an even take a dump in the street,
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  Speaker 8: it's its home thing.
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  Speaker 6: So somebody takes a w the street, you're not calling anybody,
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  Speaker 6: or you're definitely freaking out, like.
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  Speaker 8: The way people freak out when they come into my bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: But why did they freak outcause of.
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  Speaker 7: The keep in there? Because of the animals, the creatures.
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  Speaker 7: I have a creature from pants Labyrinth in there.
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  Speaker 8: I have a creature. I have one of those little
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  Speaker 8: plant goblins.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, those are very terrify They scream, right those.
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  Speaker 7: They scream the man drinks, Yeah, those are and those
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  Speaker 7: are right above my bed like a like a mobile
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  Speaker 7: from babies.
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  Speaker 9: And so pink will come into your bed room coming.
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  Speaker 8: To while my mother. My mother comes into my bedroom.
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  Speaker 8: She gets so mad at me. No, it's my mother.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say that's out. Remind I'm so sorry to me.
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  Speaker 7: It's okay, it's okay. She comes in, she freaks out.
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  Speaker 7: She doesn't like some of the things that I do.
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  Speaker 7: And I brought in somebody too that I kissed her
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  Speaker 7: on the lips in my room.
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  Speaker 4: So you kissed her on the lips and then and
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  Speaker 4: then what happened immediately following the kiss? Did you hang
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  Speaker 4: out for a while or did did she leave?
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  Speaker 8: My et fell over and she freaked out and she
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  Speaker 8: ran out.
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  Speaker 6: That's actually segues me into a really interesting question that
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  Speaker 6: I that I've been thinking about a lot for this panel,
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  Speaker 6: was have you also has everybody else also experienced their
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  Speaker 6: animatronics doing weird things that you didn't tell them to do,
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  Speaker 6: kind of like ghosts or just talking.
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  Speaker 4: I will say my babies. My babies have while I've
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  Speaker 4: not programmed them to do anything, and I insist that
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen it, and I because I haven't. And
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  Speaker 4: I will say that the actresses playing the mothers who
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  Speaker 4: hold the babies have a history of going insane and
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  Speaker 4: really report they report, but this is completely inaccurate. I
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  Speaker 4: know that they are just getting really deeply into the role.
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  Speaker 4: But they report after holding the baby, feelings of the
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  Speaker 4: baby won't leave me alone, the baby.
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  Speaker 5: Wants to come home with me.
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  Speaker 1: Printed on me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going insane.
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  Speaker 4: And actors are just crazy like actors.
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  Speaker 5: I wish they would not be in I wish they
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  Speaker 5: were animatronics.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're overpaid.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, Number two, they have too many dang rights.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's crazy about the baby thing, and I
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  Speaker 6: don't think that's true. And I don't think we should
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  Speaker 6: believe the actors, you know, but I do like that story.
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  Speaker 6: Have you have you ever lifted up the baby and
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  Speaker 6: felt anything like that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't lift the babies. I absolutely don't lift
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  Speaker 4: the babies because I'm not a mother and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: playing a mother, so I couldn't possibly be trusted to
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  Speaker 4: lift the baby.
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  Speaker 9: Any Do you lift the babies in the process of
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  Speaker 9: designing them.
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  Speaker 4: No, I use my feet on purpose so that I
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  Speaker 4: know you have to feel the feeling of holding a
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  Speaker 4: baby in my mother's arm, in a mother's arms, as
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  Speaker 4: if I were a mother.
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  Speaker 8: You build those babies with your feet.
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  Speaker 4: Buried dexterous toes.
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  Speaker 9: That's a method I.
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  Speaker 4: Have to separate the art from the artist. And a
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  Speaker 4: baby is so inherently tied to mother that if I
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  Speaker 4: build the mother with if I build the baby with
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  Speaker 4: my hands, I become mother. I don't want to be mother.
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  Speaker 4: I never want to be mother. I want to be childless.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be able to go to the beach
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  Speaker 4: without hiring a babysitter.
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  Speaker 1: And you using your feet. Is that separation?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it creates a wall between the baby. Do you
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  Speaker 4: between the baby and the mother?
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  Speaker 5: Listen?
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  Speaker 4: Does anyone else feel that the products they create, do
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  Speaker 4: they feel a maternal attachment to them or are they
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  Speaker 4: able to separate it?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I'll say it's not necessarily maternal for the people
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  Speaker 6: Dad in Avatar world. For me, you know, that's pretty
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  Speaker 6: crazy experiences with my avatar people.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the other day I was dad.
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  Speaker 6: There is late at night and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 6: one of the navvy turned on and start saying these weird.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff, you know, like an optatium.
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  Speaker 6: We got to get back to our planet, Jake Sully
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  Speaker 6: and I go, no, I'm TJ And then they say
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  Speaker 6: you are Jake Sully. And then the hair starts coming
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  Speaker 6: off and the tails start wagging at me, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: I think these I think these navi are trying to
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  Speaker 6: fuck me.
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  Speaker 5: I think these Navi are trying to fuck me.
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  Speaker 9: So that's something you put into the design.
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  Speaker 6: Lightly, lightly as a wild card. Yeah, I mean we
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  Speaker 6: all throw in wild cards into our designs, just a
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  Speaker 6: little inside jokes and I just add a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of thing where maybe ten percent more they want to
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  Speaker 6: fuck you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, like putting inside jokes into our slipping
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  Speaker 4: I slipping a single peanut into the baby and because
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  Speaker 4: that's an inside joke I have with my.
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  Speaker 6: Sister, that's a good inside joke that could ruin them
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  Speaker 6: inside machinery. But if you want there's one little peanut
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  Speaker 6: in there, that's great.
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  Speaker 8: I would love to know what the inside joke.
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  Speaker 1: Get it.
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  Speaker 4: You probably won't get it because its ide joke. But
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  Speaker 4: my sister and I were at the Dodger game, and
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  Speaker 4: we are were in the loade section, and we thought
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  Speaker 4: that we were gonna get a foul ball. We thought
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  Speaker 4: a foul ball was coming towards us. We thought we
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  Speaker 4: might be able to catch it. And then at the
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  Speaker 4: exact moment, a guy got hit in the head with
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  Speaker 4: a peanut. And so now we keep looking at each
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  Speaker 4: other and we say peanut, and so we'll hide peanuts
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  Speaker 4: at certain places.
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  Speaker 5: That seems pretty easy to understand.
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  Speaker 4: No, you wouldn't get you had to be there.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely fascinating.
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  Speaker 8: Does that? Does that rock the animatron?
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  Speaker 9: It's programming at all, It's shelved.
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  Speaker 5: It's shelved.
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  Speaker 4: So I and I make sure to put it far
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  Speaker 4: away from the battery and far away from the you know,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: the control system that makes it move. I sort of
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: just strap it to the baby's chest like a little ball.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, like a little bomb, like.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: A little bomb, like a little bob.
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: Classically the only thing you can strap to something.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be careful though, with food and animatronics.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I took some freelance work recently at the Rainforest Cafe,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: and yeah, we had to build some cockatoos.
• 17:14
  Speaker 8: And worked very extensive with the Rainforest Cafe.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I had to replace a gorilla because the fizz
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: from the Coca colas would get in the air and
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: it was corroding.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That is exactly what happened to the cockatoos. And they're
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: just a revolving door with animatronic artists. They will not
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: keep one in house.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Knows people.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: They wheel us and they deal us, they use us
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: up and they throw us out.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I heard the rate for that is like one
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars a week or something.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's not good, my.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Reps bum me up to one hundred and fifty. What
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: are you doing as a day rate for the rainforest?
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: I was paid twenty five dollars per animal and I
• 17:56
  Speaker 7: worked on twenty five animals.
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: Wow, how many animals was you putting? In full? Each animal?
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: Twelve to eighteen?
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: You're being paid with since only our.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: Yes, But that was all during one week, so it
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: was a good rate.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And they feed you. They feed you because I was
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: build building a house.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: Were you I was building a house. I was building
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: right next to the dining it was open.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: I had oriol milkshake after Orio milkshake after o milkshakes.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Are you allowed to eat other things or did you
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: choose that?
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a milkshake man through and through.
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: I had the Tiger Burger for breakfast lunch.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Are you guys on set when you're working or are
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: you just a prep day and a wrap day?
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Well, for me, I'm not really I'd said as much.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of just in the studio and on the rides,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: kind of working on the nave. They are an exceptional
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: race of alien and they are an exceptional creature.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Well, how often are you at the park?
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: I'm at the park all the time. Honestly, there's something
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: that draws me in. You have to go and checked
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: up on the navvy and see how they're doing. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: now it's almost the situation where I've got some crazy ideas,
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: you know, about where they actually belong?
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: Now where do they?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Where?
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Is that I don't belong a dizzy there?
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you that much I tend to agree
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: on you, for agree would be there.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: Of course, on we bought a zoo. Now a lot
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: of animatronics have reached a point of advancement that they
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: are free roaming in a sense that they're not brought
• 19:32
  Speaker 9: in by a truck or something. We have them in
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: a storage area. They walk themselves to set, obviously with
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: a wrangler such as myself, and they are there, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: they might wander off if not carefully paid attention to.
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: And in fact, on we bought a zoo. They had
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: such independence that when I found out that they were
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: going to be cgiing over all of the shots of
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: these animatronic animals, I decided to take it within my
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: own hands to release them onto the set and out
• 20:06
  Speaker 9: of it. All of those animatronic animals were unleashed onto
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: society and are now out well. I've heard some reports
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: of there was a rhinoceros that absolutely terrorized ah wah wah.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I heard about that. Yeah, that was really.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: And got away, absolutely and it got away. So some
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: of them are out there. The Giraft did not make it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: It was shot on set. They got it right on
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: the motherboard, so it did die.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Was the studio? Did they take legal action with you?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Did you have any repercussions?
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: Absolutely not. They were so horrified by the existential reality
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: of what was happening that nobody there even wanted to
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: discuss it afterwards.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: I followed this closely.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: It was a very, very very intense week for upstate
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: New York and it ended when it rained.
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: That is unfortunately every antron is right correct.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about it. Let's talk about the elephant
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: in the room.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: What's you well.
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: At that's never been done again?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I can't figure out how I did.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: That's why, that's why I cannot get fucking hired again,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: because people ask.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: You how did you make the shark from Jaws? And
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: you say, I don't.
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: Know, just like Stephen King with Kujo.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Do you guys?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You guys know those hours that you're.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Spending in your studio or your garage or whatever, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: you're building and at some point, this is back in
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the day when animatronics.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: We were just carving the field.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: We did not know it was our Our head was
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: in a dark asshole.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: We couldn't see left from right time.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: A monkey, Yeah, a monkey, it's like the first, the
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: real monkey, the real one.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: And I mean when you were when you are trying
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: thing after thing after thing, you don't know what you tried.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, it's four a m You're
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: going through it, and that jaw moves and that fucking
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: shark makes a move.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: You are filled with so much joy. You don't remember
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: what you did?
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: You just go take this to set. Take this to
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: set right now.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And they took it to set.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: I called, uh, yeah, I just asked your question was
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: where you were working on the That was a different
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: field of water than set.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: You weren't working on the.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So I was on the Universal lot.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: They gave me a studio there to build, and we
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: had a little pool and I built this thing in
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the water and it was working. And I don't remember
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: if it was the Blue Cord or the Grand Cord.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I don't remember made the fish.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what I did. And I used to
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: be very ashamed that I don't remember. But now I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: have to lead with it because I get hired and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: they say, can you build this in the in the water?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: The fining Nemo ride at Disneyland. They brought me in
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: and I said, guys, my hands are tied. I'm gonna
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: need weeks to figure this.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Do you get hired and then subsequently fired? And so
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: you've been you've been doing this for about forty years,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: a bit of not actually being able to do the job.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I take freelance work. Rainforest Cafe, oh right, right, right right.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: There was a week where the Bob's The Bob's Big
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Boy Burger Guy.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: They wanted him to move.
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: I was one of the most exciting weeks.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Somebody the best weeks I've ever had.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: That was an incredible week.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I think we all interviewed for the position.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: That was so just for that one week they got
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: him to move.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: I did anyone's interview though. Remember remember we had to
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: do it by all the classic cars.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, oh my goodness, that was very exciting. I had
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: to sit in a model T And I can tell
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: them what I would make by Big Boy do if
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: he could come alive.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: What did you say?
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: I said he would play cards, folkard that's funny.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: So he'd sit down and play cards, and.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: He would always look like he had something mischievous of
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: his hand. He had a nice card of his sleeve.
• 24:15
  Speaker 9: A small wing to might bring in extra revenue for
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: Bo's Big Boy. Have him win every time.
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: Beat the Big Boy. It would be a whole It
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: would be a whole gate.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Beat the Big Boy, beat beat that was me and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that Jaws shark beat the Big Boy. Okay, let's talk
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: about it. Do you guys have successful romantic lives here?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Did?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about it because I find that as a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: man who's been building machines, it's hard for me to
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: get out there. My ex wife was just terrified. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: it sounds like.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You've been trying to kiss women on the mouth and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it's hard.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: I did not say it was hard. I said it
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: did happen.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: It was easy for me to kiss her because we
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: had strong feelings for each other at the time, but
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: it was hard.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: For you to keep that relationship going because you're et
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: fell on top of.
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: Features in my room. I would say, I actually a
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: very very good on dates, and I would say I
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: can't keep women, men, anyone off of me.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: They're very interested in me. They love me. They I
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: do not know what it is.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: I do not want to know what I give off,
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: but I have been told is raw animal sexuality. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: when I do try to make things happen and I
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: take them back to my room, that is kind of
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: an issue. I would also say, if we don't go
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: to my room and we go to their house, it
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: goes very well. So the problem is when do I
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: had let them in?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: It's your job.
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: Yeah, have you considered moving? No?
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Because you you I would imagine that you're working a lot,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: you have disposable income, you want to stay with mother?
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, I could move. Thank you, it took.
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: That's all I needed.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: It took.
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: I have not thought about that. Thank you so much.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I will leave.
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: As animatronic makers, we have to be innovatives. We have
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: to earns.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you could be caught in a in a mental
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: loop of oh oh, it has to work like this.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: It has to work like this, and that's the key
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: to problem solving. Sometimes it takes one person to walk
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: in here and go, no, the baby should have two
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: arms instead of none.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Oh do you guys collaborate?
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Who gave you? That's what? Where were you that you
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: didn't realize the baby?
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you asked. It was a fantastic director.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I was doing a spot for Arby's and there's supposed
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: to be a mother holding a baby ordering an Arby's sandwich,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: and I didn't think it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: It didn't even.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Cross my mind that the baby would have arms. You
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, because it's in a blanket. Why
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I it just like, you know, when you're so locked
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: in on something you can't you can't break out of it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Until this director walked up and said why the fuck
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: are there's no arms in this baby? And then I thought,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: oh my god, that's the key to the prom Did
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: you work.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: With the person who made the baby for Twilight?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, what an.
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: Amazing I thought it was, And I could not believe
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: it was that the same baby as American Sniper.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: That, yes, that's the same.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: That's the same animatronic actor of repurposed. And we do
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: call the baby's actors, we do.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: Yes, So baby has had a lot of work on servant.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: So that's actually my My sister does all the all
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the sort of the babies with sinister energy, so in
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: all the horror movies, and that she did the Rosemary's Baby.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Does she do it with her feet too?
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: Does she work on baby geniuses and baby geniuses too?
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Gets a question, are the baby sinister in those movies?
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: Those babies?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Well, she worked on it. So yes, I mean we
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: we are. I mean I should explain we're identical twins
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: raised in the exact set of circumstances. Scientifically, a doctor
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: made it so that we were part of a study.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Anyway, It's like.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Great, yeah, and you make babies with feet.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: We make babies with our feet. We have lived our
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: lives in the exact same conditions except for one thing.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: She does the sinister babies in Hollywood, and I do
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: the regular babies, the more lighthearted babies the commercial spots usually.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Did the study end, No, I don't think it can.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: What you mean, you don't think it can I don't
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: think it can end.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think it can end until they figure out
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: what's going on with woods. They have to like they
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: have not nailed down as a society. Because I do
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: ask the scientists that are weekly checkets. I asked, you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: what is this for.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: It's weekly jackets, right.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: It's weekly jackets. But we do video diaries day and
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: everything like that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: But he said, what is this.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Forn He said, you'll find out when you're older, and
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I said, well, I'm fifty three.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: When when you?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: I can't change a lot of these psychology tests they
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: end when the babies are adults. It's like you you you,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: It's like a child psychology feature versus nurture. It's it's
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: usually that sort of thing. No, this one seems like
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: it's a forever one. So it'll be interesting to see
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: what they find out about twins.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: The scientists they're not getting older.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Overall scientists or is it just it's like a it's
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: like a great.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: Scientists every time you check in.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: You know, I've never thought about how they look a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: little bit different every time. But they they they use
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the same names. They say, Hi, I'm Charles, like you
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: know me from before. I am Tim you know me
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: from before. But sometimes their face looks a little bit different,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: and you know, I never clocked I never clocked that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: But maybe they're different men.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Well, it just takes one person to walk it to
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: your life and introduce you're out.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Incredible?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, how did everyone get into animatronics?
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: I can explain my story?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Oh please, I'm dying to know, because you remember coming out?
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: I do? I do.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: I have pre ordered that on bar dot com.
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: Thank you, Gears and pistons and pain. I mentioned a
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: t J earlier that I have experience with the Jars
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: of Life. Now. When I just got started in this,
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: I was actually a PA on Jurassic Park. You might
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: know the famous scene with the tri serratoons, Sam Neil
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: with his head on it. It's breathing in and out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 9: You might think, oh, similar to Jennifer Aniston's breasts there's
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: pistons inside, but at that time that technology had not
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: been created. In fact, I was inside the triceratops on
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: my back with my feet hot pressing out and in
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: out and in.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Not your hands, not my hands.
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: It was very heavy, very thick, very heavy. It was
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: very hot inside of their not much oxygen. Now what
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: happened was once Steven Spielberg wrapped that shot, they left
• 31:30
  Speaker 9: and left me inside of it. Now I was there
• 31:33
  Speaker 9: for upwards of three days. It's hard to remember. And
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: I learned a lot about animatronics by studying the inside
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: of it, using a box of matches and checking around,
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: studying all of the gears, all of the pistons that
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: were in there. It was fascinating. Eventually they did remember
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: that I was inside and the jars of life had
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: to rip its oh prime, its mouth open, and I
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: had to desperately.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: So they must have known that you couldn't have got
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: you as an animatronics designer. You designed this, and you
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: designed it without.
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: A e I was at the time. Oh, if I
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: had designed to trust me, it's asshole would have been
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: able to expect.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: And that's your signature move, that is.
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: And that's why I specialize in that.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Do you think that all of your animals have such
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a big asshole because you were trapped?
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: I think there's definitely some trauma there causing it, so.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: No matter who's in there, they'll always get out.
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: Absolutely, that is absolutely. I don't want anyone to ever
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: get stuck inside one of my animatronic animals.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: That is beautiful.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: I feel like there probably is a little piece of
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: all of us inside.
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: We were talking about our inside jokes, like a peanut.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Inside every single one, and that as in the thing
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: that you're hiding in.
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what was in Jaws for you?
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did, but.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: Were you just kind of like guessing and putting wires together.
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: It just it checks out to me because historically it's
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: very well known that that shark was very faulty, which
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: is the reason why Steven Spielberg had to shoot so
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: many scenes where you couldn't see the shark.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Stephen would tell me, you gotta get it going, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I go, I can. If I knew it had a mind,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I can. If I knew it had a mind of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: its own, that thing, it really did. But I'll say
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: in the time since it's been many years. I've been
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: comfortable in the unknowing there's a release, because I'll say,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: thank God, I don't know how to build a robot
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  Speaker 2: that could swim and be that big like that, I'd
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: be unstoppable.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: You're worried about getting too powerful.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: My ex wife would be dead.
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  Speaker 5: You would kill this. I'm just killing.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: No man should have that power, and I do believe
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: that God took it away.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm very glad that you don't know this information
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  Speaker 4: so that you remain not a murderer.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But I go back and forth. I wish it so
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I could I go back and I go forth?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I do? I really wish I remember there?
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Maybe to invite your wife to beat yourself thing and
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: then just accidentally an animatrotic shark attacks her. Is that
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: is that the what's the fantasy?
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: You would transport the shock out to the ocean, maybe
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: the day before, then bring your wife the next day
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: and hope the shark doesn't kill anyone during that time,
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: and that your wife would be the only one killed.
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: Or would you not worry about the collateral damage?
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You took the words out of my mouth.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Question exactly, that's exactly my answer.
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  Speaker 9: We ask ourselves questions all the time.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: In this line, oh yeah, I'll just say, oh yeah.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: I think the biggest question we all ask, which is
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: something I think we all struggle with, is what is
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: the line? You know, exactly, what is the line between
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: machine and life?
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: Did you love your animatronics?
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: I'm just wondering what the line is.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm curray to me like you've already sucked them, yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: because you've given them sexual design and if it's all right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: No, it seems like it's already happened iking for us
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: to confirm.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: But I just am wondering if anybody else has had
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: a situation where they're questioning the line between you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: what is lie between life and machine? What is the
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: lie between kissing somebody that is a machine and kissing
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: somebody that's not a machine?
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us which animal at Disneyland you're kissing?
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: It's I know this might come as a shock to everybody,
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: but it's the Nove.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I feel like it's a.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: Huge This might come as a huge groundbreaking thing. But yes,
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: I have hooked up with the Nave, all of them,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: just every single.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: One, every single one On seven fifty seven.
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: Everyone knows that, but just in the way that nave
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: normally hook up with each other with just linking hair
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: to each other.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, both both, it's both because they say, let's do
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: it the version.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: I do the people version, we do the nave version.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: It's really fun.
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: It's a blast, and honestly, there's a lot of drama
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: right now because everybody wants a little piece of TJ.
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: You know whoa they used at my asshole blueprints.
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: All those Yes, thank you so much for those asshole blueprints,
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: which amazing which I heard are going to be in
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: your memoir.
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: Asshole.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: That is fantastic.
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: Yes, but it's one. I mean, it's arguably one of
• 36:50
  Speaker 9: the most human aspects of life.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: You know all those books where it's a chapter book
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and in the middle they have the glossy pictures.
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, here's book.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I have to make a baby that made a
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: mess of itself once, and I did have to license
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: your asshole technology to do that. I just shrunk it down,
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: So, I'm sorry you had to make the baby poop itself.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: You couldn't have just pretended or put the poop in
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: the diaper.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Are you one of those girls that doesn't say I'm just.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Wondering what film or commercially you were shooting where you
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: have to visibly see poop coming out.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I never say poop, and I
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: I resent that I had.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: To say it. Now everybody poops, even an animatronic.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And second of all, this was a very racy campaign
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: by Taco Bell that they were going to air at
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: three am.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: That was an.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Advertisement, believe it or not, for pro eating nachos and
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: having the runs. They were advertising it as like a
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: fun stoner thing, and they had a baby, you know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: make a.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Mess of itself.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: So in this commercial, stoners were feeding a baby nachos
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: and then the baby was pooping itself.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: In your defense, I want to say I worked for
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: Taco Bell as well. One of my first jobs was
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: making the chihuahua.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: And oh that wasn't that was my first job.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: But they make so many changes on the set of
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: Taco Bell and the last people ton't know the animatronics.
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: So you'll be bringing an animatronic that they asked for
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: or five drafts ago, and they have.
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: To work with it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: Once you bring it, they go, oh, we're not doing that. Wow,
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: I have spent thirty thousand dollars on making this creature.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, Taco Bell works fast. Did you make Stewart little?
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: I did not make Stewart little. That is I don't
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: want to say the sea word, but that was c.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Comput Were you in a bidding war at all? Did
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you try to?
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: I was in a bidding war. I pitched, I pitched.
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: I came out three hundred thousand dollars more expensive. And
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: that was frustrating to hear.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: That was frustrating to the classic thing.
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: An animatronic would have been a little to drive that
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: little cost so much better.
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: They would have been able to drive it for real.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, and don't you think it would have been more likable?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: That's what I say all the time.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Is that what animatronics are pulling a performance from an
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: actor because he's in the room with them.
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: Come on, I will tell you.
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: We were brought in for Harry Potter and the Chamber
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: of Secrets. We were brought in to do the Phoenix
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: scene beautiful.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: With Richard Harris and and and Harry Potter.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: And they brought us Daniel radcl Harry Potter on set. Sorry,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: just go ahead, who is that?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Please continue?
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: We were brought in to work with Richard Harris and
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: Harry Potter, and we sat down because they had tried
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: it with C G I and Richard Harris said, I
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: don't know what I'm looking at, and Harry Potter said,
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: it's just right there. And he said, don't you ever
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: tell me what to do. When I was your age,
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: I was smoking cigarettes and it was a Harry.
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: Harry Potter got a Swiss Man.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: Love Harry Potter. I cannot wait to see Harry Potter
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: and here.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Now I hate Swee's an interesting take because it's almost
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: like an actor portraying an animatronic.
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: Which I have to be honest, I'm incredibly uncomfortable with.
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: If everyone does anything like that again too, I will
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: find him.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: No, for sure, it was robot face. It was offensive.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It was it was robot face.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And I'll say, you fucking your animatronics doesn't bother me.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Someone acting like they're an animatronic bothers.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, I got it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: I gotta put my foot down. None of you, none
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: of you have fucked your animatronics.
• 40:35
  Speaker 9: I I have a confession to mind.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I holy ship.
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: Okay, well, okay, I was part of a team. No,
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: I was part of a team.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: You are my hero.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: Reminder, you will recall that I worked on Bicentennial Men.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: Oh my god, I recall, recall I will I will,
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: I will recall.
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: That feeling did develop between me and the bi Centennial men.
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: Oh my god, and things were explored. That was the
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: first time that I really innovated. I probably went too far.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: I do not want to innovated.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: What do you mean.
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: Bicentennial Man was real. Robin Williams was not there on
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: those days. That was a real animatronic robot. Oh those
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: scenes you're seeing is a real robot with real human feelings.
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: It brings that movie to a whole other level. Oh
• 41:29
  Speaker 9: my God of death. Now, something that is not talked about,
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: but I feel it must be, is that once his
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: scenes were finished and we told him you're going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: be shut down later today, he then disappeared and we
• 41:44
  Speaker 9: have yet to see him since. But I feel it's
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: important to say because both of my ex wives have
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: been murdered, strangled by someone with no fingerprints.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Sorry. Did you not fuck him?
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: I did fuck the list? Oh my god, why are you.
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: Asking the one question? His story was so much deeper
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: your soul to that story.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Context. I have a confession to make.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: I know what happened with that, with that shark. What
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: what did you do?
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: I fucked ith.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: You fucked it to work. I fucked it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I fucked it and it turned on.
• 42:32
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• 42:34
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