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Ohtani’s Interpreter Fired · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's. Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes it.
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All starts. Right now.
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Welcome back to the three of Tech presented by Sea Kick.
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This is episode 418. I'll be your host, Kyle Cord,
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and I'm here with my Co host, Nate Reyes.
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Nate. What is up, everybody?
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You wanna know a little secret right now?
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It's not that much of A secret. Lay it on me.
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I well. Are you a degenerate gambler
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too? No, not a degenerate.
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I do. I do partake in some in some
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long shot parlays. However, I'm trying to shape up.
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I get. I get married in nine days,
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which is Which is insane to say out loud, but your boy is
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halfway through a four day juice cleanse right now.
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I haven't had a oh single crumb in 48 hours.
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It's pretty crazy. Good for you.
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Yeah, good for you. I feel good.
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Good for you that's you know that's that's.
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Dedication. Thank you.
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That's a clap, lady. Clap, lady.
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I know how much you love your food, so for you to take two
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days from that, that's that's big time.
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It's it's tough. We're only halfway through,
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baby. I got two more to go.
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Proud of you. Proud of you.
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Thanks. I'm also proud of ourselves
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doing a little. Can you help me make sense of
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something real quick? Are we calling this a bonus pod
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because it is this quarter? Opening disc.
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But is it though? Because the status quo has
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always been two episodes during the season, and we have played
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regular season baseball. So is this Is this a bonus pod,
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or is this just part of our regular schedule?
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Is it possible for me to say that the regular season has
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started, but it still hasn't gotten to opening day yet?
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That's not my opening day. It's not my opening day, but we
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need to establish whether or not this is a bonus pod.
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Because honestly, if all of this stuff was Shohei and and eBay
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and all that hadn't happened, I don't necessarily know that we'd
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be recording right now. So is this is this the first
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week of us doing 2 two episodes a week?
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I guess we're here until I'm not and I'm in the Caribbean.
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And then I'll be left here to fend for myself.
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Let's let's get into it. Speaking of international, let's
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just open up here with with some chat on the Korea series and
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then we'll get into the show. Hey and Epe and Blake.
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Snappy Martinez. EPE.
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Is it not EPE? Is it something else?
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I. I always thought it was EPE.
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I keep hearing people say ippy. I don't like that ippy.
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That doesn't. That doesn't feel right.
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It's not Ippy. I I know that much.
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I don't know a lot in this world, but I know it's not ippy.
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And if it is, I'm. I apologize.
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First of all, waking up for this series, I think myself and most
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other baseball fans, us normal people, woke up and caught the
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game when we caught the game. We're not catching first pitch.
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No, because we're not a psychopath.
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So just wanted to get that out there that I was not awake at
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6:00 AM. Although there are a lot.
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There are a healthy number of people on the East Coast that
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are awake at six. AMI was not one of those people
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and regularly I'm not one of those people.
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So full transparency because that's where all that's what
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we're all about here on this podcast.
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I caught both games about halfway through and watched out
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the finished out the rest of both games, so I had to fill in
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the gaps after the games had wrapped up, figure out what I
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missed. But I was not one of those
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people and I can venture to say, Nate, you being out in Phoenix
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did not catch the games from. That's your bottom dollar.
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Your boys not waking up at 3:00 AM ain't happening.
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So caught the the old story on MLB app I'm not what what for
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This doesn't count This isn't what is this This is not my
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opening day I. Will.
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Never address it as that. I saw a lot of people trying to
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defend it and and to their credit, look, I'm not sitting
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here saying Major League Baseball shouldn't be going to
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these different cities, different countries, all that.
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Although I think going to London was about as idiotic of a move
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as they could have done. And they continue to go to
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London, which is insane because they don't care about baseball
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there and they never will care about baseball there because
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they have soccer Korea. I can get down with the Dr.
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obviously can get down with Japan any of these other
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countries go for it. But the the argument that these
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people were trying to make was that well, this isn't about us,
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this is about the people of Korea.
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OK. I hear your case, I would
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understand it a little more if they're playing in front of
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708090 thousand, even 60,000 people because you know over
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there in Asia they got, they got some big ballparks, they were
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playing in front of 15,000 people.
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So who was this really for? It wasn't even a sell out.
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So look, I I I think it's great. Again, the the opportunity for
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some of these guys to immerse themselves in a new culture for
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a week or so or however long they're over there.
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Get to play in front of some some new some new fans, maybe
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some prospective fans, maybe some fans that were on the fence
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about baseball and like oh let me go check out this Dodge
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project. I get all that, but let's not.
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Let's not act like this is for the entire continent of Asia.
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It felt forced to cause like, remember like the day leading up
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where they were saying like fans were like lined up at the
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airport ready to meet all the players and it was like they had
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lined up the night before. It was like, all right, all
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right, like we get it. And for it to be such a small
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venue, for it to not be sold out, I just and whatever, like
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that's cool, man. Like, Look, you already said it.
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I'm fine with going overseas. I don't.
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That's great. Like, spread the game of
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baseball. I'm not against that.
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I'm not crazy. Don't start the season this way.
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Stop doing this. Do it in the middle of the year.
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Do it right after the All Star break.
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Well, figure out better ways of doing it.
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I I understand because this isn't exactly like the
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aforementioned London trip. This isn't the Dr. which is,
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correct me if I'm wrong, In the Eastern Time zone or very close
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to it, it's a little different, So I understand it from that
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point of view. But there was 111 idea that was
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proposed, 'cause I had put out, I had put out the, the, the
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tweet, I guess two days ago, saying how there's something I
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said There's something fundamentally wrong with playing
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baseball games that count playing more spring training
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games and then back to games that count.
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And then a lot of people are talking about, well, when else
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are they supposed to do it? And I got to give credit here.
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I'm just, I'm trying to find the, I'm trying to find the post
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here, 'cause I want to make sure I give proper credit here.
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But there was a there was a a plan proposed, and it it made
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sense. Let me see here.
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I'll find it. Stand by.
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I should have had this pulled up.
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That's on me. I should have, yeah.
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That's on me. Hey, I didn't think I'd be
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given. I didn't think I'd be given
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credit. I'm just here.
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Where is it? Oh, here we go.
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OK, shout out James James, H17 on on Twitter, OK, He says.
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I don't understand why they didn't do this starting on
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Monday, OK, And just have he said I'll just read the tweet
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verbatim, he said. I I don't understand why they
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didn't do this starting on Monday and just have those two
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play a slightly shorter spring with the day off.
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The day after opening day. They could have played Monday
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through Wednesday, had two days off and then a short two game
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series Saturday and Sunday. And I and I'm thinking through
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that and I say you know that accounts for the jet lag and all
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of that. Yeah, if, especially if you do
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like a getaway game, like a getaway day, right.
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What time is it? So it was 6:00 AM for you.
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What time was it locally? I think 7.
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I would imagine like 7:00 PM. And I'm no travel expert.
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Is it that much of a difference for like the Cubs and Cardinals
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to go to London than a West Coast pair of teams to go to
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Korea? I think so.
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It is. I'm not a geography guy, but I I
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I think, yeah, yeah, because Korea's literally unlike the
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other side of the world. Yeah.
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But think about going the go the West Coast way, go over the
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Pacific, but you know. You got to go around a good deal
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of water or go over a good deal of water to get to Korea.
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I don't know. Not, not important.
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You look that up, did you see something that I feel like kind
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of flew under the radar a little bit The the bomb threat?
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I did. It was rumored, Rumored.
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Did you see? That it was specific to Ohtani
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to. Ohtani, I don't.
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What was that about? All right, so can I can I just
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throw something out there? Throw it?
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Can I? Can I put on my?
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Squash to to squash the the bet. I'm gonna put on my tinfoil hat
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here. This came out before we knew
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about the whole scandal that we're about to get into.
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Maybe there was some connection. Obviously nothing happened, and
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they said that there was no threat to those in attendance at
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the ballpark, so it was fine. And again, nothing happened.
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The games went off without a hitch.
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Not an issue. It's in addition to 2000 miles
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so. Yeah, that's that's that's a
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good. Raise around the globe to 5900
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for those wondering, yeah. Literally the Do you think the
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planet do you? Think eBay was just like, hey,
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maybe we mix in a little bit of a a.
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Little bit of a scare. No, no, I'm not putting this on
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eBay. I'm not putting this on eBay.
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I just think it's interesting that all of this happened.
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Within When was the bomb threat? It was before game.
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What day? Well, I Thursday.
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What day? Tuesday.
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Yeah. Or did the report come out the
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morning of the game? Because you have to remember
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they're when they finish up their game, they're basically in
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tomorrow. Like when they finish up a night
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game, they go home, go to bed, and then within hours it's the
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next day. So there's a lot of play here, a
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lot of a lot of confusion. Yeah.
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I don't know why we're trying to dive into time zones and
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distance traveled, distance traveled and all that right now,
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but there's a lot at play here. Let's talk.
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Let's talk a little baseball about it.
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Let's talk a little baseball. You know, this is a baseball
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podcast. Let's let's dive into it.
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So game one, a fairly, fairly normal game.
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Nothing crazy. 5/2 in favor of the Dodgers, as I'm sure you
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know it by this point. A couple takeaways.
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Obviously you had that Jake Cronenworth error, which I don't
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know if you saw, but apparently. I'd hate to call that an error.
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I. I really would.
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It's not an error in my books, but it's not my books that
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they're keeping. So what good does that do?
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But Mad Dog, I don't know if you saw that, but he's.
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Pissed. He was like that.
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Corona War's got to make that play.
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He's like, well, he did in theory.
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Also, it's it's March. How much?
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How much of A beating has that web taken already, you know?
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Maybe there's some carryover. Maybe he's, maybe he's hung onto
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that glove for a while. I'm not.
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We can assume it's new. Or the groan zone.
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Yeah, I put that tweet out. I couldn't help but think of Don
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Orsillo when he's like, you can hit it anywhere, but don't hit
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it to the groan zone. And I said, well, he literally
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hit it into his glove and it didn't matter.
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So yeah, it's tough. Yeah, that's real tough.
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One of the one of the things I did like to see and I put out
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this tweet the other day and I know that you saw it because you
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liked it, but it was I put out just a a little screenshot of my
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notes app. I just said players that I
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believe in didn't add really any context to it.
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I just wanted to get it out on the record so that so that when
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these guys inevitably have a year, I can go back and
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reference this tweet. Sure.
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Hassan Kim was on that list. I'm a Hassan Kim Believer and.
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As am I the. The reception that this dude
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got? Big time.
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Loved it, man. Loved it.
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The signs were, yeah. For like a good chunk like,
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yeah, it was like 7-8 years, wasn't it?
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Yeah, the the signs were all over for him.
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I mean, obviously you had people there to see Shohei and I even
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saw Mookie was making the rounds.
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But surprising. Well, I guess not surprising for
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him and and Korea but to me at least quite a quite a reception.
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Quite a turn out for for Mr. Kim.
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Yeah. So really not much to write home
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about in game one. Padres pitching not efficient.
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They walked nine and then immediately after game one you
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have the tweets coming out being like the the Dodgers are on pace
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for 162 and O. It's still on the table.
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I'm like, OK, are we are we really gonna do this all season?
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Because I think the answer is yes.
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Although it didn't matter because literally game two we
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put an end to that real quick. And game two, I might add,
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quite, quite a high scoring affair, if I do say so myself.
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1511, it was big. It it gave me Red Sox, Yankees,
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London vibes where I'm like. Do you remember?
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I looked it up today, it was like 17 to 13 or something like
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that. Absurd.
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But I I was thinking I was like oh, did we like, forget to put
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the the special balls in play for game one?
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We. Got a We got a little.
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We had a Little Mix up there with the buckets, little boxes,
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balls maybe Lost in Lost in Translation Game 2, not the case
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15 to 11. My guy Mookie with the want to
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make sure I'm correct on this first Homer of the year and all
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of baseball. Put up 17 points for me in
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fantasy today. By the way, I think he said six.
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RB is so big day for Mookie. A couple swipes too.
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Not so much of a great day for Yoshinobu Yamamoto.
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Nailed that, by the way. I haven't heard you say that
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whole name. Thank you on the pod yet, so
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great job there First off. Well, I I am working on my on my
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foreign language skills 'cause I am applying to be Shohei Otani's
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new translator. Not a bad idea.
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You're not a big betting guy, so it's probably probably the first
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question in the interview. You know, do you use DraftKings?
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Have you ever used DraftKings? My answer would say, or my
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answer would be yes in college. Actually, no, I I'm not allowed
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to say that. That never happened.
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I didn't use it in college as a college athlete.
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Never happened. It was a joke.
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Of course, that's a hypothetical.
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Hypothetically, we'll say that I use in College in an effort to
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get a few bucks to get like a sandwich, because, as you know,
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you're broke in college. Yeah, you gotta you gotta do
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what you can. That record's been expunged, I
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retract. Everything.
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I plead the 5th. Yeah, I Yamamoto looked like
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like like crap. Just say it.
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He was. He looked.
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He was booty meat. It was booty meat.
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It was cheap. Bad for for a lot of what we've
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seen him in a Dodger uniform. I is there.
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There's still like the difference of the baseballs.
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Yeah, because like Japanese baseballs, they have a little
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more tackiness. They kind of just show up at the
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ballpark, like pre rubbed up pre tacky, whereas ours are pearls.
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And then they have like that special mud that a clubby was,
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you know, going to rub up a ball before a game.
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Sure. Can we is that enough?
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Is that enough to say like he's not used to it yet?
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Well, there was I I don't know if it was a baseball.
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I saw a lot of speculation as to whether or not the Dodgers were
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distracted in game two based on the findings after game one.
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And I thought, I don't know if that's exactly the reason that
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Yamamoto have a five spot after getting he got.
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He got hit around a little bit this spring before they made the
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long. Would you say 5900?
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Yes, 5900 miles 5. 93 flying right?
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To Korea so. 5953I. Don't know man.
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Yeah, I don't know dude. It's just he doesn't.
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If there's then guys that know pitching can can be aware of
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this. Like if if you have one miss.
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In a start, if you have like a glove side miss or an arm side
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miss or one of your pitches is not being spotted like that,
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that is like a, a mechanical thing, right?
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He's spraying it. He was all over the place
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everywhere, spiking a lot of different stuff.
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It's just I I'm, I think he's fine.
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Yeah, I'm with. You.
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I'm not. You said.
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He'll figure it out. He'll be fine.
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He will be fine. There's always that adjustment
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period and I do go back to like this.
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I think it's a slightly bigger ball for us and it is, it does
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have that like different tackiness over there in Japan,
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so. I will say though, there is a
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sickening amount of people rooting for this kids downfall.
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Oh yeah, sickening amount. He just.
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I mean, there's there's enough people that hate the Dodgers.
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There's enough people that think it's ridiculous for him to get
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300 before ever throwing. Yeah, I get that too.
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But I I I don't know. Like I I wanna.
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I root for good baseball. I don't have really anything
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against the Dodgers. Well, let me ask you this, I, I
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I saw this floating around on social the other day and I
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thought it was it made for an interesting consideration.
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Obviously if you're a rational, thinking human being, you're not
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gonna root for an injury. Sure, but I I as I mentioned, I
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saw this post floating around and it was talking about how
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again, not gonna root for injury, but rooting for a guy
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who you think is way overpaid, maybe showing a little bit of
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giddiness after he gets beat up, gets rocked around a little bit
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after a few outings, is are are you willing to go that far?
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If there will be like a ghost IL stint after four or five starts
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like this, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that'll for sure come
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into play. I mean, if Garrett, I'll just
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put it like this, if Garrett Cole got the contract he got
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back in the day and it turned out to be not as good as we
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thought he would be and eventually would go on to be, I
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would absolutely be pulling for his downfall.
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Performance wise, I would never wear for an injury, of course.
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So from that point of view, I get it if you're like a Giants
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fan or even a Padres fan, but I'm also like, what is this guy?
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What is it? What is this kid really done to
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deserve the hate? I don't understand it.
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I don't understand it. I.
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Don't know either. And you know, as good as
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Japanese hitters are, they're not as good as Major League
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Baseball player hitters. So I am going to go ahead and
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say that there's just gonna be an adjustment period.
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I think it's OK. I don't think there's anything
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wrong. I don't think Dodgers fans need
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to overreact. I don't think we need to like,
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think that this guy's done like he has plenty of time to settle
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in. He's young and I'm not stressed.
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It's fine. I'm with you.
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For the record, Joe Musgrove didn't have all that great of a
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day either. Gave up five, five runs, seven
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hits, two walks, and two and 2/3.
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So pitching was certainly lacking in Game 2.
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Also, we've seen this. We've seen this, this This is a
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tale as old as time. Hitters are now ahead of
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pitchers, right? Like it's flipped.
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We used to have this like we used to have this.
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Hitters need a while to get timing.
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Pitchers have the upper hand for the first few weeks out of the
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out of the gates. It's now flipped because of the
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way pitchers are being handled nowadays, how limited pitch
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counts are now with pitch clock being involved, like now you
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have some guys reporting late like we're babying pitchers so
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much that they're going to. It's now flipped.
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Hitters have the upper hand right now.
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I think you're going to see some high scoring games a lot for the
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first few weeks. I don't think that's relative to
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whatever stadium they were playing in in in Seoul.
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It's a great point Nate. It's a great point.
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Let's let's switch gears here. Let's talk.
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We already alluded to it. The topic that is making its way
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around the baseball world and honestly just the world in
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general. A lot of takes flying on A1
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show. Hey Otani, but let's let's dive
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into it shall we? So I'll be honest, there is a
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lot, as I said, flying around about this, but I still don't
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know if I fully grasped what exactly is going on.
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I don't think any of us know. Because this report came out
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from ESPN, which we'll we'll look at a little more in depth
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here, but this thing comes out, we start getting the the alert
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notifications and then the tweets start rolling out and
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then the YouTube response videos start showing out or showing up.
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I I don't, I don't understand fully and as you mentioned, I'm
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not I'm not exactly a betting man.
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So even even the motivations behind what's being described
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and what's being reported on, I'm not fully comprehending.
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OK. Like I I don't I don't know
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who's if what's being reported is accurate and factual, which
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it sounds like it might not because there's a lot of stories
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being flipped here. But with what we have as of
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right now, if if that's being reported as factual, I don't
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really know who's supposed to be the fall guy who's potentially
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behind a cover up because I just don't fully understand the
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motivations here. And quite frankly, I'm a little
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scared to peel back the curtain here because.
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I think a lot of people are. This could be.
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I mean, I look, let's just call it like we're seeing it.
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You're seeing things like black socks thrown out.
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You're seeing Pete Rose thrown out.
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Oh, Pete. Is coming out.
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He's coming out soon, for sure. You're seeing steroid era
26:59
comparisons being made in terms of the black mark.
27:03
That's potentially gonna hit that.
27:05
That's potentially going to hit baseball.
27:10
And I was thinking back on this, this Astro scandal a a few years
27:15
back and I thought, I don't, I don't remember how quickly that
27:22
unraveled. Because I remember I could take
27:24
you to the exact spot that I was standing when I got that
27:27
notification that the where the floodgates just opened up and
27:30
everything, everything broke loose.
27:35
But with this, it's like, have we even scratched the surface?
27:40
Probably not like I'm for Shohei's sake.
27:47
I'm kind of terrified for what we're potentially going to be
27:52
finding out because Jeff Passan said it today.
27:54
He's been, he's been making his rounds with his follow up
27:58
reporting and all that, but he's like there will be an
28:02
investigation, there will be more to uncover here and there
28:06
will be ramifications that we don't even know about yet that
28:14
will take place. So it's a it's a it's a jarring
28:20
situation. I'd never thought when we did
28:23
last episode, when we did our Hot Takes predictions episode,
28:26
and we did this whole tinfoil award of who we thought would be
28:30
most likely to get swept up in a conspiracy the same week that
28:36
the episode drops. Nobody had a Tony on that bingo
28:40
card. We have the greatest player in
28:43
baseball, many would say of all time, caught up in a 4 1/2 +
28:52
1,000,000 dollar gambling scandal.
28:57
Two technically a game into the season.
29:02
That's where we're at right now, and I hate it.
29:07
I mean, it's selfishly, it's so weird.
29:11
Selfishly, it's great for content, but for baseball, it's
29:14
it's not great. This isn't the kind of attention
29:16
you want for baseball. Do you wanna?
29:20
Should we? Should we look at this article
29:24
here? We should.
29:27
We shall. We shall, we should.
29:29
So there was the the report in in what am I trying to say here
29:37
words the reporting question. The report that we're
29:40
referencing here came out yesterday.
29:42
There was a follow up by the same reporter, Tisha Thompson,
29:47
but the the article that came out yesterday, March 20th at
29:50
5:50 Eastern. Let's just let's take a look at
29:56
this real quick because again, this is, in terms of black and
30:02
white, limited speculation. This is really all we have.
30:07
This is the most Gray thing I've ever seen.
30:11
Well, no, no. What what you're seeing floating
30:14
around on social media that's that's Gray.
30:17
That's the speculation. This is as concrete of
30:23
information as we have available to us right now is what I'm
30:26
saying. Would you not, would you agree
30:29
because that's this is what everything this is what
30:32
everything has stemmed from and then as I mentioned the
30:35
occasional follow up from passing and all that.
30:37
But as of right now, let's see, let's see what we have, Tisha
30:42
writes. Ipe Mizahara, the longtime
30:46
friend and interpreter interpreter for Ohtani,
30:48
interrupted or incurred the gambling debts to a Southern
30:52
California bookmaking operation that is under federal
30:56
investigation, multiple sources told ESPN.
30:58
For those who don't know illegal bookmaking, this is a this is a
31:04
bookie. This is not legal.
31:06
Continue. OK, let's go.
31:09
Gambling entity. This isn't a FanDuel.
31:12
This isn't a DraftKings. This is illegal, which is not
31:16
permitted in Major League Baseball.
31:19
Gambling is allowed. Not on your own sport, but it
31:25
has to be with a legal entity. She goes on to write how he came
31:31
to lose his job. Started with reporters asking
31:34
questions about the wire transfers.
31:36
I I did skim past the opening paragraph that mentions that it
31:40
was four and a half $1,000,000 in in wire transfers.
31:43
So not a small amount of money and isn't four and a with with
31:49
the deferments isn't four and a half million what Ohtani's
31:53
making over the next like decade?
31:56
So I mean, Ohtani's out for his the next decade worth of salary.
32:02
That's that's, oh that's, oh, a single month of a New Balance
32:05
paycheck. That's fair, That's fair, says
32:11
Initially. A spokesman for Ohtani told ESPN
32:14
the slugger had transferred the funds to cover Mizahara's
32:16
gambling debt. The spokesman presented Mizahara
32:19
to ESPN for a 90 minute interview Tuesday night, during
32:22
which Mizahara laid out his account in great detail.
32:26
However, as ESPN published a prepared to publish the story
32:30
Wednesday, the spokesman disavowed Muzahara's account and
32:33
said Ohtani's lawyers would issue a statement to which and
32:37
this isn't exactly what you said, but they basically came
32:39
out and said, no, just kidding, this was theft.
32:43
Yeah. So I mean there was a lot more
32:48
to it and maybe we'll we'll dabble back in, back into it.
32:51
But just taking a brief pause here, a possible scenario that
32:58
we have right now is that Shohei feels bad for his friend.
33:04
A friend for which he's had many years.
33:07
A good friend. Some would say best friend.
33:10
Some would say best friend. I saw a quote floating around
33:13
from Ibei. I I want to say it was maybe
33:16
from the offseason or last year That was him saying that he's
33:22
around Shohei. I think, I think the quote was
33:25
something like that. He's around Shohei more than
33:27
he's around his family because he's around Shohei like 365 days
33:31
a year. So again, getting back to the
33:36
scenario, it's possible that Shohei felt bad for his friend
33:41
paid the debts. Major League Baseball goes woah,
33:45
woah, woah after some more information comes out and then
33:52
Ohtani's team in order to protect their Golden Boy.
33:58
Baseball's Golden Boy, they said, just kidding.
34:01
We didn't mean any of that. We were robbed.
34:10
That's that's that's kind of what what we have right now.
34:13
There is a lot, there's a lot more conspiracies.
34:16
Oh, boy. He's getting his tinfoil hat.
34:18
He brought it, didn't he? I know this man.
34:22
I know this man. For those who don't know, I've.
34:27
I've known we were neighbors when we were, like 3.
34:32
So we've known each other for just about our entire lives.
34:34
The fact that I knew he had a roll of tinfoil and he was
34:37
getting his tinfoil hat, it shouldn't come as a surprise.
34:41
As a surprise to those of you. Buckle up, everyone.
34:44
What do you got for us? The article goes on to say hold.
34:52
On, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
34:53
Before you got that, we got a question from the chat, Jacob
34:56
says. Or Jacob asks, would you guys
34:59
bail each other out for four and a half million dollars?
35:02
How close are Nate and Kyle? No.
35:10
I don't. I don't know where you.
35:11
I don't know what kind of operation you think we're
35:13
running here at the three O take.
35:14
But I relax, Jacob. I can give you 4 1/2 dollars.
35:19
Four and a half dollars, 4.5 dollars.
35:22
I couldn't. I could combine what the three O
35:26
take is pulling in as well as my own personal money and I could
35:30
maybe match half of what Nate's given you I I could maybe go
35:36
like. 225-270-5275, the article goes on to say because of I I
35:48
think, I think it it pay IPA, IPA.
35:53
IPA, I'm just gonna say. IPA.
35:55
I think IPA went rogue. I think IPA was like, yo, this
36:05
doesn't look good. I got you and Shohei's like, I
36:14
don't know what that what that means.
36:17
Next thing you know he's sitting down for a 90 minute interview.
36:21
Homie logs into his bank account and just like, shows stuff.
36:26
The article goes on to say ESPN had reviewed the bank
36:31
information showing Ohtani's name on two $500,000 payments
36:37
sent in September and October to the bookkeeper.
36:44
With his name. Show his name on it.
36:48
What? No, I have not been a fan of
36:59
IPE. Personally, I felt the guy was
37:02
just too much in the spotlight As an interpreter.
37:06
I shouldn't know your name. I don't know any other
37:10
interpreter's name. I don't care if you're hanging
37:14
out with Ohtani. I don't know you.
37:17
I don't want to know you. You're not anybody.
37:19
To me, this is the best baseball player on the planet.
37:24
You can just stay in the shadows.
37:28
I didn't like that baseball card, the rare trio of baseball
37:33
cards that came out where it was Ohtani versus Trout in the WBC.
37:40
And IPE is holding one of them. Which side note?
37:43
Happy one year anniversary? I think I saw today that today
37:46
is one year anniversary that game.
37:48
What a what? An awesome What?
37:51
The tournament. Kind of ironic if you think
37:53
about. It kind of.
37:54
Kind of. Kind of.
37:55
Kind of. Yeah, a year to the date.
37:56
Wow. Anyway.
37:57
For him to be standing there. Like what?
38:00
What are you doing? Why are you a part of this?
38:03
Why are you in this shot? I didn't like it.
38:10
But how? The turntables.
38:12
How the turntables? Ipe's falling on a sword.
38:20
Do you think Ohtani's the degenerate?
38:23
IPE is falling on a sword? Then Here's why for anybody that
38:28
doesn't bet and doesn't get this 0% chance any bookie is letting
38:39
you go in the hole for 4 1/2 milli. 0% chance you have that
38:45
kind of line of credit. I don't even know what an
38:52
interpreter makes. Let's go.
38:54
I mean, give him six figures. We'd give him a couple 100,000
38:57
for a salary. This is a semi relevant detail,
39:00
let's see. It's got to.
39:02
Be Let's see what he makes. Ipe Mizzahara This was from oh
39:09
this was from 9 hours ago. CBS News Ipe Mizzahara, 39, who
39:14
has been standing alongside Ohtani for the entirety of of
39:16
the 29 year old phenom six years in the MLB, was paid up to half,
39:21
$1,000,000 a year to serve as an English translator for the
39:24
native Japanese speaker before being fired.
39:27
It's an absurd, absurd salary. First off, 5. 100K.
39:32
Doing something that Google could do, you're just.
39:34
Talking. Anyway, that's insane.
39:39
There's no way. I don't care, I say that.
39:42
I say that and I know like 2 sentences in Spanish, so credit
39:46
to ipe for number multiple. El bano por vivor the.
39:51
Necesito necesito IR a la Playa con MI baseball E Pedro.
40:06
That's I need to go to the beach with my baseball and my dog.
40:11
You're welcome. Perfect.
40:13
Anyway, continue. Sorry, continue.
40:16
It pays falling on the sword. It pays me right now.
40:21
So I'm understanding you and saying that you think Ohtani's
40:23
the degenerate here. I do.
40:25
Wow, the man. And I tweeted this yesterday.
40:29
You're telling me the man that has a montage on YouTube of him
40:35
doing nothing but picking up trash around Major League
40:38
Baseball stadiums is the degenerate?
40:43
I do. I do.
40:46
I don't buy it. I don't believe it.
40:49
This man. This man has secrets.
40:51
We didn't even know he was engaged.
40:53
Next thing you know, he's married.
40:55
He got what? Did he not get married this
40:57
year? I keep seeing people.
40:59
No, no, no, I I keep seeing people Be like he played for the
41:03
angels for what? How however many years he was
41:07
with the Angels, like 6, he's like he played with the Angels
41:11
and didn't know a thing about this guy.
41:13
And then he comes over to the to the Dodgers and we find out he
41:16
has a wife. And I'm like, OK, well, maybe
41:19
that's because he wasn't married then.
41:21
Because they're we didn't even know newly married.
41:24
So that's what do you even know he's engaged.
41:25
We didn't even know. That's it.
41:28
So what? Who cares?
41:29
These are secrets. Good for this man.
41:33
I know. No, no, no.
41:34
I know you and I and I just know if we would have found out,
41:39
let's just say his engagement lasted a year, traditional
41:42
timetable, if if it would have come out last offseason that
41:51
Shohei Ohtani was engaged and it was all that we talked about.
41:56
For I would have hated it. He would have.
41:58
Hated it for sure. So can we not give the guy some
42:01
slack for maybe not going all crazy public with the OR public
42:05
at all with the engagement information?
42:07
I don't know. I'm engaged.
42:09
I was pretty happy to tell people.
42:13
It's just weird, that's all I'm saying.
42:15
That that's. I'll give you that.
42:16
It's weird. But I'm not gonna knock the guy.
42:18
It's weird. I think they're secrets.
42:21
I think they're secrets. I think it pays.
42:25
Falling on the sword, dawg. Here's why.
42:28
So so yeah, run with this, explain to me because narrative
42:32
that you have in your mind. He goes to ESPN.
42:34
He has this conversation, says hey, look like it's me, I'm the
42:40
one doing it here's. My.
42:41
Account. Yeah, here's my account super
42:45
open. Who does that?
42:47
Nobody does that. Nobody with that kind of debt is
42:49
like, here, here's my debt and shows it to an ESPN reporter.
42:52
This is insane. And then all the sudden Otani's
42:59
lawyers are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
43:01
Otani's name is on that stuff. Dude lies.
43:05
All he said was lies. Everything he just said is not
43:08
correct. If he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
43:10
you're right. 24 hours later, he's like, yeah, yeah, that.
43:12
None of that was right. You're right.
43:13
My bad, my bad. Shohei had no idea.
43:17
How do you tell me in on Tuesday that Shohei knew gave you money
43:24
to bail you out and then Wednesday you said Joey had no
43:28
idea and now it's theft. Not to mention not to mention
43:35
the clips of them inter interacting in the dugout during
43:39
game I guess. Yeah, game one and the the the
43:44
comments were like, this doesn't appear to be a video of two
43:50
people who are at odds right now because they were interacting
43:53
just fine. And maybe that was upfront, I
43:56
don't know. But just a lot of weird.
44:00
And then the. The shift to theft was the thing
44:03
that got me. I'm like shift.
44:04
To theft. Whoa, whoa.
44:05
You don't have your story straight.
44:08
Like, it's one thing if we go like E Pay was responsible for
44:12
this gambling debt to then go whoa, whoa, whoa, it was
44:16
actually Ohtani who was responsible for this debt.
44:19
We need to launch an investigation.
44:21
Yeah, but to go from, hey, this was just a a guy paying off his
44:26
friend's debt to make sure he didn't do it again and just do
44:29
him a solid to this guy robbed me.
44:32
Yeah. Then for then, what are we
44:35
doing? This is where the hat the hat's
44:37
coming in soon. OK, what do you got?
44:40
Then for the update to come from me, come to me on Bleacher
44:43
Report at 4:08 Pacific Time today.
44:48
As Ohtani's reps tried to determine what happened, they
44:52
initially relied on EPA's translation.
44:56
So now we're gonna say it's a lost in translation situation.
45:01
What? You're telling me Shohei's
45:04
lawyers don't speak Japanese? You're telling me Shohei's
45:07
lawyers aren't able to speak directly?
45:10
Ipei's the only one that can translate Ohtani's words.
45:14
What are you talking about? So we went from ipei, spilling
45:19
the beans. ESP NS like let's ride.
45:22
We're releasing this puppy, reversing it, saying Nope.
45:29
Uh huh. All of that was a lie.
45:31
Lawyers come in. Block this, block this.
45:34
Now it's lost in translation. All in the middle of this.
45:39
ML BS like Otani's fine. What do we We're not
45:43
investigating this. And I I tweeted that out that I
45:47
said That was the most predictable headline of all
45:49
time. Major League Baseball.
45:52
Where you think Robbie Manfred is looking into OTAN?
45:57
This is the if we remove stats and skill set, we can argue that
46:05
this is probably the most popular baseball player of all
46:09
time since Babe Ruth. And even then, Babe Ruth
46:13
probably didn't reach this legendary status with his name
46:18
until after he was done playing. And it's not even his fault.
46:22
It's just because the media that exists today didn't exist in
46:25
newspapers. It's not even his fault.
46:27
When we're talking about like the arguably one of the biggest
46:31
international stars, I would say we have like Christian
46:34
Christianado, Ronaldo, Lionel Messi and Otani's on his way up.
46:40
Otani's in that category as far as, like, I don't even watch
46:43
your sport, but I know who you are.
46:47
So sit here and say Robbie Manfred, because that's what the
46:50
punishment is. If you get caught betting,
46:57
you're under investigation by your own commissioner, Robbie
47:02
Manfred's sweeping this puppy under the rug.
47:04
Robbie Manfred went to the Dodgers, the Dodgers went to IPA
47:09
said. Hey, you're taking this, You're
47:14
taking this fall. I'm sorry.
47:21
It's not even Ohtani's call. It's not even Ohtani trying to
47:25
clean up his own mess. Oh, I guarantee you for what's
47:30
the legal term? Plausible deniability.
47:34
No chance. Shohei is even within a mile
47:37
radius of the building that these conversations are are
47:40
taking place with. With IPE.
47:42
Not a shot. Correct, they say.
47:44
Hey, go. You know what?
47:49
Here's 10 grand. Go, enjoy, Go enjoy a nice, nice
47:52
night out on the town with the new wife.
47:55
Just blow it all. Paint the town blue.
48:00
Honest. And you're telling me that IPE
48:03
broke the news to the LA Dodgers in the clubhouse?
48:07
Who is IPE? Who are you?
48:10
Who are you? You're a translator.
48:13
Why are you addressing what? What are you talking about?
48:18
The whole I I'm, I'm kind of with you on the falling on the
48:22
sword angle and it's not Even so much it's it's not so much about
48:29
looking at who's responsible. It's more about the the response
48:34
for me. When you look at what he said,
48:37
it's just a dead giveaway. He said obviously he mean you
48:43
know Tani wasn't happy about it and said he would help me out to
48:45
make sure I never do this again. He decided to pay it off for me.
48:48
I want everyone to know Shohei had zero involvement in betting.
48:52
I want people to know I did not know this was illegal.
48:55
I learned my lesson the hard way.
48:56
I will never do sports betting ever again.
49:00
No shot. You didn't know this was
49:02
illegal. Whoever it was, Ohtani, Ipe, I
49:06
don't care. No shot.
49:08
You didn't know this was illegal.
49:10
And for you to use absolutes like that, that's it.
49:13
If we've learned anything, forget the legal world.
49:16
If we've learned anything from from people under the radar or
49:21
under the microscope in baseball, you think Mark
49:24
McGuire, guys like that who've been caught up in things, when
49:28
they when they start using absolutes like that, that's when
49:33
you know something. Something and for him to say,
49:36
yeah, I want people to something did not know this was illegal.
49:39
I would never do sports betting ever again now.
49:42
This isn't you've you've been in California for years, Years.
49:51
And what makes you think that, like Ohtani would be OK with
49:58
saying I'm at my status and my translator's getting into some
50:05
of the biggest possible gambling holes, and I'm not gonna put an
50:11
end to that. My lawyers aren't gonna put an
50:13
end to that. You live in California.
50:16
It's not legal there. You know what's going on?
50:20
Bets outside of baseball. I don't know about that.
50:26
I can't comment on that. I don't know.
50:28
I don't really care. I don't think it matters so
50:30
much. When I heard that, and I'm I'm
50:33
really not trying to speculate, even though I know this, we're
50:36
ultimately only speculating, 'cause we don't, we have barely
50:39
anything to go off of. But this is obviously a big
50:41
deal. It needs to be talked about.
50:43
When I saw the bit about, it was international soccer there.
50:50
There's a couple other sports. That, yeah, it says
50:52
international soccer and other sports.
50:54
Hyphen but not. Baseball that to me that seems
50:59
like an opportunity for the guilty party.
51:03
You fill in the blank with, if you're listening, whatever party
51:06
you want to believe is at fault here and and their corresponding
51:11
camp. To me, that seemed like an
51:14
opportunity to go well, maybe this is 1 area where we can save
51:18
face. Like we're kind of out in the
51:20
open here with the amount of money that's been made public,
51:24
the people that are involved. But at the very least we can
51:27
say, well, we didn't, we didn't get him on baseball to maybe
51:32
soften the blow a little bit. I don't think it helps, but
51:35
maybe that's what their thought process was and.
51:37
You're telling me that Shohei isn't smart enough to go to one
51:40
of his attorneys, one of his agents, one of his managers, and
51:44
say Homie's got a pretty big debt?
51:48
I think I'm gonna pay it for him.
51:50
I think I'm just gonna send money right to the guy.
51:54
There's no one there to say, hey, there's no financial
51:57
manager to say, hey, actually that's illegal.
52:01
I don't think we should have your name anywhere near this.
52:04
So to sit here and say I wanted to give the money to to the
52:09
bookkeeper to make sure Ipe learned his lesson and wouldn't
52:12
bet anymore. Nice try.
52:16
Can I ask you, can I ask you something as as someone who has
52:20
been known to, to put down a dollar or two?
52:24
Yeah, I'm not a big bettber, by the way.
52:26
I've never bet more than 20 bucks on anything.
52:28
On legal on legal platforms, I might add yes.
52:35
Answer me this if you can. The I think the the the part,
52:40
the detail that I'm getting hung up on is differentiating between
52:45
the active gambling, like proactively gambling, putting
52:51
down money ahead of time ahead of an event, whether it be
52:55
baseball, what other, whatever other sporting event, and then
52:58
paying off those debts to a bookie.
53:02
Like, do those carry the same weight in terms of legality or
53:08
lack thereof or? Well a a bookie is not upfront
53:12
money whereas FanDuel is right. FanDuel, DraftKings.
53:17
You have the money in your account, You place that, you go
53:21
to the horse track. You give money on placing his
53:24
bet. Right.
53:25
Bookies. No.
53:27
Bookies typically will have like because they have a pool of
53:30
people betting they're gonna say, I take this bet, I take
53:33
this bet. Bookies set the odds the same
53:36
way fans sure picks odds, right. So bookies setting odds and all
53:40
these people are giving them money and say, OK, these odds
53:42
are changing now because like I'm gonna be in the hole if I
53:45
continue to have these great of odds.
53:47
So odds change. Typically all this money comes
53:50
in and then on Fridays they're gonna say, all right, I'm gonna
53:54
pay out the winners, losers, you owe me this, right.
53:57
So that's where, like the money isn't given up front, the way
54:02
our typical betting is that we're all familiar with.
54:07
Yeah, that makes sense. What's?
54:08
Fishy about this. How do you continue to get up to
54:11
four and a half million dollars? Like, but that's what I'm trying
54:15
to figure out. Let's just say that the the
54:17
scenario that's or one of the hypothetical scenarios that's
54:22
floating around out there is is reality is what actually
54:25
happened. Let's just say the IPE was the
54:29
one responsible for these bets. And then let's just say Ohtani
54:34
didn't know that he was in this deep.
54:36
And let's just say Ohtani wanted to do his friend a solid.
54:42
Who in the eyes of the law is more at fault here?
54:48
Or who? Like who's going to receive the
54:50
greater degree of punishment? Is it Ibe who proactively put
54:53
these bets down or is it Shohei who?
54:56
Who has? What did we say to documented at
55:00
least wire transfers of five? What was it, $500,000?
55:06
I don't know. Like if you don't know, because
55:09
like, wire, even money, that's still pretty sticky.
55:12
I think it's worse to go through the action and place the bet.
55:15
And if there's evidence of you placing an illegal bet, that's
55:19
probably a worse breaking of the law.
55:23
It's probably a worse crime. Sure.
55:28
But the fact that your name is, like, attached to complete an
55:34
illegal transaction, that's pretty bad too.
55:46
And this bookie is like, yeah, dude, I saw the checks.
55:50
I saw Shohei's name on there. I didn't say anything.
55:56
This bookie is 100% Bookies are sketchy.
56:00
Bookies are sketchy. They're underground, right?
56:03
They're underground stuff. So if you're having Ohtani's
56:06
name exactly and you're able to tell other betters.
56:11
Yup. Ohtani trusts me with his money.
56:14
You should too. He's not going around saying
56:21
Ipe. Who the heck's Ipe?
56:24
Goes back to what you said a few minutes ago.
56:26
Who's Ipe? Who are you?
56:29
Yeah. No, I I'm with you.
56:32
Boyer is the bookie's name. I can't remember what his first
56:37
name was, but. Doesn't matter.
56:39
It says. Bookie, Boyer.
56:42
Boyer the bookie. Bookie bookie Boyer, it said.
56:46
Matthew Boyer s s California book bookie Matthew Boyer.
56:55
It says in this article this is Alice.
56:57
His Alice was rated at some point.
57:05
I mean yeah, rated by federal authorities in October facing
57:12
potential felony charges. Dude, there's this is just
57:16
messy. And you got Dave.
57:21
Poor Dave, Poor Dave Roberts, man.
57:23
He's like he's on the hot seat for his job and now he's being
57:25
asked to comment on a multi $1,000,000 gambling scandal.
57:31
Oh yeah, there it is, Missouri Mizuhara confirmed to ESPN.
57:35
He has been paid between 300 and 500 K annually.
57:39
What a salary. Crazy dude, So all right, let
57:44
Well, I feel like we've been going on about this long enough,
57:48
Jacob says in the chat. Who's hippie?
57:52
The League rule book states that Betts placed with illegal
57:55
bookmakers are subject to punishment at the commissioner's
58:00
discretion. You think Robbie Manfred is
58:05
about to run a a the name that is gonna carry over for
58:13
centuries for this sport out of town?
58:20
No Shot. What?
58:21
I will say. What's that?
58:23
I saw two gifts today on Twitter and I'd like to report that they
58:27
made me laugh out loud. The one where the guy's like
58:31
leaning behind the tree and he's like rubbing his hands together.
58:34
He's like this. You know what I'm talking about?
58:36
That was like Trevor Bauer right now.
58:41
And then another one. Was real quick on that.
58:46
How much more needs to happen for Trevor Bauer to finally get
58:49
a job? Because I just saw.
58:51
I literally just saw. I saw it was either yesterday or
58:55
today that who was it? Somebody picked up Domingo
59:00
Hermann. Was it the Pirates and the
59:02
Pirates? Pirates.
59:03
Yeah. Wasn't that like just the other
59:05
day? I thought it was a little longer
59:07
ago, but yeah, maybe. It was like a a a resurfaced
59:11
tweet. But anyway, yeah, you got that.
59:13
You've got this. Oh yeah, it's a perfect storm.
59:16
He's gonna sue baseball. I cannot wait for that
59:19
prediction to to come out. If you haven't listened to hot
59:21
takes or predictions episode, please go back because we will
59:25
reference that throughout the year.
59:27
The other one was, you know, the guy, I don't remember what
59:30
player it is, but like, he's the the bald, like, basketball
59:32
player where he's like sitting on the bench.
59:34
He's like, Oh yeah, where he was like where it was like when you
59:39
see Yamamoto give up five runs in the first, but you remember
59:43
you put money on the Padres money line.
59:48
It's Otani just being like, yeah.
59:51
Oh, man. All right, let's put a bow on
59:55
this because we just got to get to one or two quick things here
59:58
at the end. So you're of the mindset, you're
1:00:02
of the belief that Ohtani is the one that was putting these bets
1:00:09
down. Lawyers stepped in pretty late,
1:00:14
but you can only pull at that string for so long and I think
1:00:19
if they went rogue or maybe this comes from the top, maybe Robbie
1:00:29
Manfred, so. So when you say.
1:00:31
Down to him. So when you say he went rogue,
1:00:34
I'm envisioning A regiment going to battle.
1:00:39
Let's just let's, let's let's go World War 2 here.
1:00:42
So you've got, you've got the front lines here, you've got the
1:00:46
Allies fighting the Germans. The Allies go.
1:00:52
We're not having our best day here.
1:00:53
We should probably fall back. And then Ibei, you got the You
1:01:00
got the Allies falling back, and then you've got Ibei San.
1:01:05
I've got this. And he just runs into the
1:01:09
trenches, right? Never to be seen.
1:01:11
Again, that's what you're saying, guys.
1:01:13
It's like when Jon Snow just started booking it.
1:01:18
I know, I know that Jiff. I know the.
1:01:20
Reference. Yeah, he's just booking it solo
1:01:22
dolo. That's what IPE was doing.
1:01:25
Good for IPE. Good for IPE.
1:01:28
I was not an IPE guy. I respect the hustle.
1:01:33
I respect this is the ultimate sacrifice, I think.
1:01:38
So good for you, IPE. But I think this is.
1:01:43
I think it's someone else pulling the strings, man.
1:01:45
I I don't know, but I want to know when this investigation
1:01:48
started, like when did this investigation come about?
1:01:57
It says on in the article Boyer's operation is being
1:02:00
investigated. It's.
1:02:06
Got to be a few months, yeah. It's it said.
1:02:10
I want to say. Was it like back in the fall?
1:02:14
Because I think a report initially came out in January
1:02:17
about some of this stuff, but it I don't think it enough had
1:02:21
materialized for it to really warrant any sort of response.
1:02:24
I think that's what I saw All that to say I I think this is
1:02:28
just the beginning. I the the last thing I'll say
1:02:31
here before we move on. I think the thing that people
1:02:34
need to keep in mind with this, regardless what Rob Manfred
1:02:37
says, regardless what Major League Baseball says about
1:02:41
refusing to investigate their golden child in Shohei Otani.
1:02:48
I'll tell you there's a couple federal agencies that couldn't
1:02:52
care less how fast Shohei Otani can throw or how far he can hit
1:02:57
a baseball. The IRS being one of them.
1:03:03
The FBI Ever heard of them? Yeah, that's what we're talking
1:03:07
about. So if they get, if they get
1:03:09
further involved in this and you know they will.
1:03:14
I don't, can I? I don't say I don't want fully,
1:03:19
fully concerned about the Dodgers season.
1:03:23
I don't think it's crazy to say this stank ain't going anywhere
1:03:27
anytime soon. And what did I tell you?
1:03:31
Granted, I didn't foresee a A multi $1,000,000 gambling
1:03:35
conspiracy unfolding the same week, but earlier this week in
1:03:39
our Hot Tags predictions episode, I said you're a fool to
1:03:43
think that the Dodgers are gonna run the table because that's
1:03:45
just not how baseball works. And I I simply said that because
1:03:48
I just don't believe that baseball is that easy.
1:03:51
Like it you you just don't assemble a super team and it's
1:03:54
it's a guarantee. Again, that was before this
1:03:58
happened. You throw this into the mix.
1:04:00
I'm fully on board with what you're saying.
1:04:02
I Yeah, I think thirsty, if this, if this continues,
1:04:05
nervous, fully in jeopardy. I'm nervous, 'cause you got guys
1:04:09
on that roster like Freddy Mookie, Will Smith, Jason
1:04:13
Hayward, you got guys that just like Chris Taylor.
1:04:16
They just want a ball. They just want a ball.
1:04:19
Like, I don't want to deal with these questions.
1:04:21
And if Ohtani's not answering questions, these other players
1:04:25
are going to be hearing these questions.
1:04:27
It's going to spread. This is not going any way
1:04:30
anytime soon. It's going to be tough to win
1:04:32
ball games. I'm going to be honest.
1:04:33
I'm pretty, pretty nervous if I'm a Dodgers fan.
1:04:39
Joey asked. What if Otani suspended and
1:04:41
plays basketball for a year? Oh, I I saw a lot of Jordan
1:04:45
comps with this whole thing. Yeah, look, Jordan just beat it
1:04:51
in the nick of time before social media started coming
1:04:53
around. It's a fact.
1:04:56
Yeah. That is a fact.
1:04:59
All right, well, I'm glad to know where you stand on this.
1:05:01
I I I gotta be honest, I didn't think I had Nate thinking that
1:05:06
Otani was a degenerate gambler on my.
1:05:08
Bingo. Pro ipe.
1:05:10
I'm pro ipe. Wow.
1:05:11
OK, I've completely flipped. Pro ipe.
1:05:15
What a what AG. To be able to to to take the
1:05:18
bullet there. Take a lot of bullets.
1:05:22
Yeah. Man four and a half million
1:05:26
bullets. Let's talk real quick as a
1:05:31
couple days pass at this point but Blake Snell finally signs
1:05:35
with the how much said New York Giants Wild The San Francisco
1:05:40
Giants two year $62 million deal and as you would imagine has an
1:05:47
opt out. I think we can safely say that
1:05:51
Scott Boris can I say it? Can I just say it?
1:05:58
Shat the bed. Well, I wasn't gonna go that
1:06:02
far. I was just gonna say washed.
1:06:05
Sure, sure. And look, you can.
1:06:10
You can tell me. Well, they're gonna opt out and
1:06:15
then they're gonna get the bag next year if Blake Snell can't
1:06:20
get a bag after winning the Cy Young.
1:06:24
That's a great point. Don't try to convince me that
1:06:26
he's somehow going to get a bag next year at What are We Talking
1:06:31
About? I think the questions
1:06:34
surrounding a guy like Blake Snell are are greater and
1:06:38
outweigh what even another season of what he just did could
1:06:46
account for. Yeah, I don't know.
1:06:53
I mean good, good signing if you're if you're the Giants.
1:06:57
I I don't hate it. I am a little butthurt, if I'm
1:07:04
going to be honest, just as a Yankees fan.
1:07:06
Like the restructuring where I I don't know the exact details,
1:07:11
but he's getting 17 now. Well.
1:07:17
Yeah, after the season, right? Has like a signing bonus for
1:07:20
next year. Got a 17,000,000, $17 million
1:07:23
signing bonus and is set to make 15 mil this year and then 30 mil
1:07:30
next year. Half of the signing bonus.
1:07:33
Until 2027. Signing bonus doesn't count
1:07:36
against team salary cap. I would venture to say no.
1:07:43
'Cause that's kind of how like the Tom Bradys structured stuff
1:07:48
like tom-tom Brady did that with the Patriots for a long time to
1:07:50
give them like roster flexibility and stuff.
1:07:54
So we've seen a couple workarounds this year between
1:07:57
like Ohtani's large deferment, this restructure.
1:08:02
I'm personally a little butthurt that like because the Yankees we
1:08:08
talked about it last episode like and and any other team for
1:08:12
the for that matter, being at the top of their cap.
1:08:15
Understanding that if you crossover you're, you're
1:08:17
reaching this point where like you're basically playing double.
1:08:24
Paying double of 17 is a lot better than paying double of 33.
1:08:30
You tell me the Yankees couldn't work something out like that.
1:08:32
So like that bugs me a little bit.
1:08:34
I don't. I don't love that as a Yankees
1:08:36
fan, but. Yeah, I mean.
1:08:41
Talking Logan Webb and Blake Snell and 1/2 like I can talk.
1:08:46
I can talk noise on the Giants, but.
1:08:48
That was the Cy Young finish order, wasn't it?
1:08:51
You got Snell and wet. Well, Snell obviously went in.
1:08:54
But then Webb was #2. Yep.
1:09:00
But yeah, to your point, there was a lot of fan bases clamoring
1:09:02
for that deal. They're gone.
1:09:05
We waited it out. But didn't think it would be
1:09:09
this reasonable. I use air quotes.
1:09:13
I. Don't know.
1:09:15
In fact, a lot of teams could have benefited from that and I'm
1:09:18
surprised the Giants are the one to pull the trigger.
1:09:20
But it goes back to what I said this guy.
1:09:21
It was very evident that this guy wanted to be out West.
1:09:24
And I think, yeah, yeah, even if it means going to a I I can't
1:09:31
even say directionless Giants anymore because the more I think
1:09:34
about it, they they had a heck of an offseason.
1:09:37
Like I know, I know you've been talking a little bit of noise on
1:09:42
on their direction, but as I don't get it the last, the last
1:09:45
month they've really, they've really done some.
1:09:49
I'm not a huge fan of the of the direction.
1:09:52
In certain ways I think it's an overpay on on certain players.
1:09:58
But like, for Boris, I mean this is a like a a wildly
1:10:06
underwhelming. This is like, I'm, I know
1:10:08
there's delusions of grandeur there, but like this was a
1:10:12
horrible offseason for him. Horrible.
1:10:17
This was not good. And I think this is the last
1:10:22
time you're ever gonna see in, you know, Monty probably being
1:10:26
the last, bigger name. This is the last time you're
1:10:29
ever gonna see this Major League Baseball MLBPA.
1:10:34
They're stepping in. There's gonna be a deadline.
1:10:36
There's gonna be some type of period.
1:10:40
I keep seeing all this talk about there being, like,
1:10:43
collusion among some Major League teams.
1:10:45
I'm like, what are we talking about?
1:10:49
Good on. The teams, I didn't hear
1:10:50
anything. Good on the teams for Well, I'm
1:10:53
just in terms of like waiting out Scott Boris.
1:10:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
1:10:59
Yeah. Probably not.
1:11:00
But yeah, I like that if. That's happening.
1:11:02
Good, good on the team. Like I know we're always pro
1:11:05
player. We're never, we're never gonna
1:11:07
be like pro ownership or pro league or whatever.
1:11:12
But screw Scott, Boris, you know.
1:11:14
In this scenario whatever. Like if if all 30, if all 30
1:11:18
teams got in the same room and were like, you know what?
1:11:23
Let's make this guy sweat. Then so be it, man.
1:11:26
Like, I don't. This guy, it's he's dry.
1:11:29
He's dragging free agency into the wrong direction, and we need
1:11:33
to reclaim it and take it back the other way in the form of
1:11:36
possibly a deadline. I'm seriously, we talked about
1:11:39
it a recent episode. I'm OK with that.
1:11:41
Yeah, me too. Me too.
1:11:44
And like, it was perfect timing for what the NFL offseason
1:11:47
looked like. Like for that was insane.
1:11:50
And that was fun. Twitter was nuts for a few days
1:11:54
and now it's like, now we know, right.
1:11:57
And don't talk to me about well, injuries happen.
1:11:59
Hello. The NFL.
1:12:02
The injuries happen more there. So like no, I'm not doing that
1:12:07
good for good for baseball to make him sweat it out.
1:12:10
I think. Yeah, there's gonna be a
1:12:12
deadline. Did you see the the Bob
1:12:15
Nightingale tweet? Which take of the grain of salt,
1:12:18
but this seemed pretty accurate that Giants GM Farhad oh.
1:12:27
Zahidi. Zahidi, that he started off his
1:12:30
press conference, so he's like, I deserve a a Medal of Honor
1:12:35
from the president for having to negotiate with Scott Boris three
1:12:39
times this offseason or whatever.
1:12:41
Yeah, amazing. Oh my gosh.
1:12:44
Yeah, yeah, dude. Big ballpark too, you know, Big
1:12:53
ballpark going from San Diego to there.
1:12:57
Speaking of that's a good point. But Speaking of ballparks, how
1:13:02
do we closing it out here? JD Martinez today or this
1:13:07
evening rather signed with the New York Mets.
1:13:11
How do we like that fit at Citi Field?
1:13:14
What was the number one year 12, one year 12, one year 12?
1:13:22
Andy Martino on Twitter said the the Mets were always only going
1:13:29
to sign JD Martinez if the deal became irresistible.
1:13:33
It got their per league source 4 1/2 mil this year, 1 1/2 a year
1:13:39
deferred from 2034 to 2038. That's pretty irresistible, for
1:13:46
sure. What does that look like If he's
1:13:50
traded mid mid season? They finish out the rest.
1:13:54
But the Mets are on the hook for the deferred amount.
1:13:56
Like you can't trade the deferred amount, right?
1:14:01
I wouldn't think, no, I wouldn't think so, Yeah.
1:14:03
So it'd just be very tradable, very tradable.
1:14:08
Even if it wasn't, even if it wasn't deferred.
1:14:10
Like 12 mil, Yeah. Yeah.
1:14:17
Unbelievable. It's crazy, man.
1:14:20
That's the worst offseason I think an agent has ever had.
1:14:24
I mean, it's a little more understandable with a guy like
1:14:26
JD. Like, personally, I still think
1:14:28
JD can provide some great value to an offense, but like on
1:14:32
paper, I understand why. Maybe he was a little later.
1:14:36
To be honest, dude, if if Jock Peterson is getting is getting
1:14:40
play and it took this long for JD Martinez to get play, I'm a
1:14:43
little lost. I'm a little confused, like to
1:14:46
be like a 75% of the year DHA professional hitter, a guy that
1:14:53
will absolutely talk hitting with anybody in that clubhouse.
1:14:58
That's worth every dollar for me and very tradable.
1:15:02
If he starts off hot, you move him.
1:15:06
Get a prospect for a guy like yeah, I like it.
1:15:14
I would have liked I I I don't know I would have liked to see
1:15:16
the Padres. But all good all good.
1:15:21
I'm gonna waste away in in Queens.
1:15:25
I'm not an anti JD guy. Even when he was a sock, he
1:15:28
never really like got under my skin.
1:15:31
I like he's a hitting nerd and I like hitting nerds.
1:15:34
Yeah, he for you at least. He's a guy that can kind of
1:15:38
transcend the the uniform, right a little bit.
1:15:42
So I yeah, I can appreciate that, but.
1:15:46
Also I think it was easier easier to look alike, easier
1:15:49
Major League look alike. Wow, that's.
1:15:52
I'll take that man feel. Free to put that tweet up
1:15:55
tomorrow when when you when you drop that little pornographic
1:15:59
Kyle Koran, JD Martinez, separated at birth.
1:16:05
I'll take it. I mean, he's a little, he's a
1:16:07
little Husky, but I mean, yeah, but he's, I'm no string bean.
1:16:10
He's approaching 40, right? So you got time to put on put on
1:16:14
some L BS. Oh, going the wrong direction,
1:16:18
but I, I I see what you're saying anyway, that that about
1:16:22
does it went as as usual, deeper than we thought.
1:16:27
I'll be honest, you I I didn't intend on getting it on here and
1:16:31
having to goal on this journey with you of of where you thought
1:16:36
this whole gambling. That.
1:16:39
Was fantastic. Would recommend would ride here
1:16:42
again. That was a great freaking roller
1:16:45
coaster ride. Because I got on here thinking,
1:16:50
you know, maybe we'd throw around a little bit of
1:16:52
speculation. Maybe we'll show hey, maybe it
1:16:54
was Ipe. Maybe Manfred's involved
1:16:56
somehow. But you said, Nope, Ohtani is
1:16:58
the degenerate. And so I said, OK, I guess this
1:17:01
is where we're going for the next half hour.
1:17:03
So again, apologize, went a little deep, but we had to get
1:17:10
this to you. We know that's all people are
1:17:12
really talking about right now. Is Zip a Shohei and the Monet?
1:17:18
Oh, oh oh. Just found here.
1:17:21
Just found the title of our episode right there.
1:17:23
Oh. I like that.
1:17:29
But anyway, we will get back to you guys next week.
1:17:33
Nate, not to put you on the spot here, but what's your what's
1:17:36
your recording plan? What are you what are you
1:17:39
thinking, recording wise, with the wedding coming up?
1:17:41
You will not hear from me post opening day immediately.
1:17:46
Yeah, that's just that's probably a promise.
1:17:50
So we may. Opening the 28th married on the
1:17:52
Thursday. So you're and maybe we'll get
1:17:56
you like for a little opening day you and then.
1:17:59
Right, right. That's fair.
1:18:02
Yep. And then I expect.
1:18:03
I'll be honest. Late, late, late episode of the
1:18:10
week, post opening day. Maybe.
1:18:15
Lot of inconsistency. Let's be honest, Lot of
1:18:17
inconsistency. Oh, I will say, 'cause you won't
1:18:20
hear. I guess no one will hear from us
1:18:24
until that point. If you're bored in the afternoon
1:18:28
on Tuesday and you want to talk a little Yankee stuff, come meet
1:18:31
me in the chat. I'll be on Bleacher Report 2:00
1:18:35
PM Eastern. So you want to get in the chat,
1:18:38
Show a little love, talk a little Yanks.
1:18:40
I'll be there. Nate returns to Bleacher Report.
1:18:45
There it is. That's awesome.
1:18:50
Anything else before we get out of here?
1:18:55
Pray for me two more days without food. 2 days.
1:19:00
Finish out strong, finish up a week strong.
1:19:01
It's crazy. I actually feel pretty good.
1:19:03
I'm not gonna lie, someone started talking about
1:19:06
cheeseburgers today and it wasn't pretty.
1:19:09
But outside of that, are they good?
1:19:11
Yeah, I started imagining Shake Shack and telling everybody that
1:19:15
in and out sucks. Yeah, it was a lot.
1:19:19
Anywho, you guys know the drill. Don't go chasing curveballs.
1:19:25
We love y'all and as always, looking forward to talking more
1:19:27
baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.