Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 03 February 2025
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens
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- 0:11Speaker 2: It'd be.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Welcome morning to you. It's a new day, it's a
- 0:16Speaker 3: new week and time Ed Dickens. And in the next
- 0:18Speaker 3: hour the second phase of the Royal Commission into COVID
- 0:21Speaker 3: gets under way today. How is it different and can
- 0:23Speaker 3: you get involved? We'll have that story in five minutes time.
- 0:26Speaker 3: We've got Andrew Ortison in in about ten to talk
- 0:29Speaker 3: sport and it's all about the football ukp and Tony
- 0:32Speaker 3: Blair has branded the current Prime Minister here as an
- 0:37Speaker 3: out of touch human rights lawyer. So what's to fall out?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Gavin Gray from the UK just for five point thirty
- 0:42Speaker 3: and it's on the tariff war starts between the States,
- 0:45Speaker 3: Mexico and Canada. What should New Zealand do. We'll have
- 0:48Speaker 3: that story for you just between just before the news
- 0:51Speaker 3: at six. We'll have news as it breaks. We'll have
- 0:53Speaker 3: news from around the world, corresponders from around the world
- 0:55Speaker 3: and correspondence from around New Zealand. If you want to
- 0:58Speaker 3: talk to me about stuff, you can text Meek ninety
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- 1:03Speaker 3: really lay into me about stuff, you can email Dickens
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- 1:07Speaker 1: Nz the agenda.
- 1:11Speaker 3: It is seven after five. It's Monday, the third of February.
- 1:13Speaker 3: It's my father's birthday. Canada has announced reluctant retaliatory tariffs
- 1:19Speaker 3: against the United States, just hours after President Donald Trump
- 1:22Speaker 3: ordered his promise tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. Trudeau
- 1:26Speaker 3: responded with a twenty five percent tariff on one hundred
- 1:29Speaker 3: and fifty five billion dollars of US goods, and the
- 1:33Speaker 3: tariff's come into effect tomorrow. Trudeau says Canada did not
- 1:36Speaker 3: ask for this.
- 1:37Speaker 4: The President Trump wants to usher in a new golden
- 1:41Speaker 4: age for the United States. It's a better power is
- 1:45Speaker 4: to partner with Canada after punishment.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Ontario, the state has responded with a punishment of
- 1:51Speaker 3: its own. Premier Doug Ford has announced the province will
- 1:54Speaker 3: no longer sell us booze. So Jack's off, No Jack
- 1:57Speaker 3: Daniels off in Canada, No Jack, and Canada now to Australia.
- 2:02Speaker 3: One person has died in Townsville's flooding emergency. Police have
- 2:05Speaker 3: announced a sixty three year old woman died while trying
- 2:08Speaker 3: to escape the floods. Six suburbs have been evacuated as
- 2:11Speaker 3: some areas received half of Townsville's annual rainfall in just
- 2:15Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Back home, the government's expanding the range
- 2:18Speaker 3: of sanctions included. It has beneficiary traffic light system and scheme.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Job Seekers will now have to perform three job search
- 2:27Speaker 3: activities every week for four weeks. They will also have
- 2:31Speaker 3: to attend employment related courses for at least five hours
- 2:34Speaker 3: a week over a four week period. And finally, to
- 2:36Speaker 3: the States, it's Grammy Day. The Grammy is expected to
- 2:47Speaker 3: be a somber affair this year. The annual Oscars of
- 2:50Speaker 3: Music takes place in La today. That is Billie Eilish
- 2:54Speaker 3: and of course it's going to be somber in response
- 2:56Speaker 3: to the devastating La fires, So we're not going to
- 2:59Speaker 3: have parties and the ceremony will have a strong focus
- 3:01Speaker 3: on the fires and all those who lost their lives
- 3:04Speaker 3: and homes.
- 3:06Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early
- 3:09Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property
- 3:12Speaker 1: Search Simple, News Talk Sippy.
- 3:15Speaker 3: It's time after five, right, good morning to you. Outrage
- 3:18Speaker 3: of the Day is the photograph of the poor cop
- 3:21Speaker 3: and among the mob vest and hat, which was all
- 3:23Speaker 3: over social media. Now it's that the legacy media was
- 3:26Speaker 3: all over the papers yesterday. Now the police commissioner says
- 3:30Speaker 3: the photo is disappointing and below professional standards. The police
- 3:34Speaker 3: are investigating. The police are determining if further action is needed.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Now context is everything. This photo is a couple of
- 3:42Speaker 3: years old, taken before gang Regalia became contraband. I wonder
- 3:47Speaker 3: why it's news now. I wonder why someone started spreading
- 3:50Speaker 3: it on social media. Now what are they trying to say?
- 3:53Speaker 3: This cop appears to be in the police station. He
- 3:55Speaker 3: appears to be in an office. He's wearing his police shirt.
- 3:58Speaker 3: He appears to be parading some conference sate Gang Reghavia
- 4:01Speaker 3: after a successful operation against the gangs. There is no
- 4:05Speaker 3: hint he's glorifying the gang. To me, actually it looks
- 4:08Speaker 3: like he's belittling the gangs. But now the cop is
- 4:11Speaker 3: in trouble because someone thought it was a good idea
- 4:13Speaker 3: to disperse this photo farm wise. Now, look, our cops
- 4:18Speaker 3: have worn the brunt of social media attacks because of
- 4:21Speaker 3: political virtue signaling for years now. A political battle that
- 4:25Speaker 3: said the previous government and the police were soft on crime.
- 4:27Speaker 3: Rebounded on the actual cops. It be little cops who
- 4:31Speaker 3: put their lives on the line every single day. But
- 4:34Speaker 3: some armchair warrior would sit there and say, oh, yes,
- 4:36Speaker 3: soft on crime drove them nuts. They were and now
- 4:42Speaker 3: they're in the firing line again. When that, I feel
- 4:45Speaker 3: probably the cops should be celebrated. Our cops have never
- 4:49Speaker 3: been soft on crime, nor are they now. They need
- 4:51Speaker 3: our support, not our opper probian They're doing the best
- 4:55Speaker 3: in a difficult environment and they don't need some moralizing
- 4:57Speaker 3: of armchair critics when the cop themselves celebrate small winds,
- 5:02Speaker 3: scats and to the talk back topic of the day,
- 5:05Speaker 3: I'm sure this will be done. Who on earth thinks
- 5:07Speaker 3: that banning phizzy drinks from a speedway meeting is going
- 5:09Speaker 3: to help the health of the nation in any material
- 5:11Speaker 3: way whatsoever. I yes, phizzy drinks rot young teeth, but
- 5:16Speaker 3: that's young teeth in the care of parents and families
- 5:20Speaker 3: and on decisions to regularly consume at home, not because
- 5:23Speaker 3: of a big night out celebrating a long week of work.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go family, Let's go to the speedway.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You don't tell Liam Lawson not to drink champagne after
- 5:33Speaker 3: winning a race to you now, and our problem with
- 5:36Speaker 3: the sugary drinks is not their consumption, but they're inappropriate consumption.
- 5:41Speaker 3: So for me, there's no problem with a coke at
- 5:42Speaker 3: the speedway, but there is a problem with coke for
- 5:45Speaker 3: breakfast or a coke every day. So it's coming up
- 5:49Speaker 3: thirteen minutes after five on our first interviews on the
- 5:52Speaker 3: Way with Matthew Haig who's a lawyer and he's part
- 5:55Speaker 3: of this COVID inquiry the Royal Commission. Phase two of
- 5:59Speaker 3: the COVID inquiry kicking in today and it's different and
- 6:02Speaker 3: we'll tell you how in a few moments. Time is
- 6:03Speaker 3: looking at big stuff like mandates and lockdowns. And it's
- 6:07Speaker 3: in a couple of minutes time here on News Talks
- 6:09Speaker 3: at B on.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew
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- 6:19Speaker 1: Youth Talks it B.
- 6:21Speaker 3: Yes, the time is now five fifteen. Phase two of
- 6:23Speaker 3: the COVID inquiry is kicking in today. A submission portal
- 6:27Speaker 3: and awareness campaign is being launched today where the public
- 6:30Speaker 3: can submit feedback around key decisions the New Zealand government
- 6:32Speaker 3: made during the pandemic. And you know these decisions vaccine mandates, lockdowns,
- 6:39Speaker 3: extended lockdowns, rat tests and tracing. I'm sure you've got
- 6:42Speaker 3: an opinion. You can go to the portal. Matthew Haig
- 6:45Speaker 3: is a lawyer who defended a client who didn't want
- 6:48Speaker 3: the COVID JAB and he joins me, now, hello, Matthew.
- 6:51Speaker 5: Good morning Andrew.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Just to remind us, well, why are we having a
- 6:54Speaker 3: second phase of this COVID inquiry.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Yeah, well, the first phase was heavily criticized, and I
- 6:59Speaker 5: think rightly so for two reasons. One is who the
- 7:02Speaker 5: commissioners were. Some were people who had openly publicly advocated
- 7:06Speaker 5: for stronger lockdown measures, and so people perceived there to
- 7:10Speaker 5: be a degree of bias in what their decision would be.
- 7:13Speaker 5: And secondly, the terms of reference for the first phase
- 7:15Speaker 5: were so narrow, they were all future focused and they
- 7:17Speaker 5: didn't really cover the decisions of the government.
- 7:20Speaker 3: So how is this phase different?
- 7:23Speaker 5: Different commissioners, different terms of reference. So this phase specifically
- 7:26Speaker 5: addresses the government decisions, especially the lockdowns in late twenty
- 7:30Speaker 5: twenty one and vaccine mandates.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Yes, in phase two has been there by the chair
- 7:35Speaker 3: Grant Illingworth k C and not Professor Tony Blakeley. That
- 7:38Speaker 3: you've referred to this you know this will minimize the
- 7:41Speaker 3: criticism around bias, won't it.
- 7:44Speaker 5: Yeah? I think so, And I think people should be
- 7:46Speaker 5: optimistic that this phase of the inquiry will address and
- 7:50Speaker 5: scrutinize the decisions that affected so many people in New Zealand.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Yeah. And why do you think they actually went for
- 7:55Speaker 3: Blakely in the first place, You know, because he was
- 7:58Speaker 3: recommending stuff. I know you have medical advice, medical knowledge,
- 8:02Speaker 3: and he could aid in that way. But surely for
- 8:05Speaker 3: these commissions you need someone who is just straight down
- 8:09Speaker 3: the law, a casey, a lawyer.
- 8:12Speaker 5: I think people just want objective scrutiny. And in the
- 8:15Speaker 5: first case, Professor Blackley did openly advocate for stronger lockdown measures.
- 8:21Speaker 5: People didn't trust that they wanted someone who was objective.
- 8:25Speaker 5: I think there's still going to be an area of
- 8:26Speaker 5: mistrust because the end of the day, this is still
- 8:29Speaker 5: a function of the government, even though they are independent.
- 8:32Speaker 5: But I think people should be optimistic that this phase
- 8:35Speaker 5: will be better. And I really encourage anyone who has
- 8:38Speaker 5: a say, whether it's pro or anti measures taken by
- 8:41Speaker 5: government to have their say.
- 8:43Speaker 3: Okay, so what do you think people will be mostly
- 8:46Speaker 3: submitting about because they're the big ones, aren't they the
- 8:49Speaker 3: man that's lockdowns and the rat tests and the tracing.
- 8:52Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there'll be people who have either been
- 8:55Speaker 5: affected by those things or have family or friends who
- 8:58Speaker 5: have been as well. We were lucky to ripre sent
- 9:00Speaker 5: a few dozen people who were and there were hundreds
- 9:04Speaker 5: of people that lost their jobs, including mems of the police,
- 9:06Speaker 5: Defense Force, fire and emergency. There are still people who
- 9:10Speaker 5: are going through the court system now we're waiting on
- 9:11Speaker 5: a Supreme Court decision about the end of their flockdown,
- 9:15Speaker 5: which is only recently presided.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Okay, and are you making any submissions? Are you part
- 9:19Speaker 3: of anybody making submissions to this phase two of the inquiry?
- 9:22Speaker 5: Yeah, I would like to. I'm thinking just carefully about
- 9:25Speaker 5: how I can best do that because the end of
- 9:27Speaker 5: the day, we work for our clients, and so I
- 9:29Speaker 5: just want to think carefully about how I can best
- 9:31Speaker 5: do that, probably in consultation with them.
- 9:33Speaker 3: So what do you hope to get out of that phase?
- 9:35Speaker 3: If you're being involved watching, you know, what would you
- 9:37Speaker 3: like to see get out of it?
- 9:39Speaker 5: Robust findings. You know that this is not going to
- 9:42Speaker 5: be an inquiry that results in compensation or the restoration
- 9:45Speaker 5: of people's jobs. What we want is scrutiny on the
- 9:48Speaker 5: people who made those decisions, the former Prime Minister, Chris
- 9:51Speaker 5: Sippins and others. I think, more than anything don't want
- 9:56Speaker 5: that kind of thing to happen again. In public health
- 9:59Speaker 5: measures can be justified, but they need to be balanced
- 10:02Speaker 5: against individual rights of freedom and the economic cost of
- 10:05Speaker 5: extended lockdowns and mandates on people who really, realistically have
- 10:09Speaker 5: no additional risk than you would face in the supermarket
- 10:12Speaker 5: in the community.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Do you know the address of the submission portal because
- 10:15Speaker 3: I don't.
- 10:17Speaker 5: Yes, it'll be in the media release. So it's an
- 10:19Speaker 5: online portal, so people can easily find that just by
- 10:21Speaker 5: googling the Phase two COVID inquiry, and that it should
- 10:25Speaker 5: be fairly easy for people to make it submission electronically,
- 10:27Speaker 5: and there is an option of requesting to make it
- 10:29Speaker 5: in person.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Great souf, Matthew, thank you for waking up early. Thank
- 10:32Speaker 3: you for your time, Matthew Haig Lawyer. And here it
- 10:35Speaker 3: goes here, it goes here, it goes the big questions,
- 10:37Speaker 3: and isn't it good that we've got illingworth a case
- 10:39Speaker 3: instead of someone who was a medical official, a professional
- 10:42Speaker 3: who was advising pro vaccine. You've got to be right
- 10:45Speaker 3: in the midll, don't you? It is nineteen minutes out
- 10:48Speaker 3: to five, big weekend of sport football or good FC wow,
- 10:53Speaker 3: but Chris would triple wow. You got a hat trick
- 10:56Speaker 3: Andrew Ordison to your next news.
- 10:58Speaker 1: And views you trust to die your day is the
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- 11:07Speaker 3: They'd be five twenty one? What a miracle dragged Andrew
- 11:10Speaker 3: Ordison away from cricket on the television you have? Indeed
- 11:13Speaker 3: England and Indian and India scored two hundred and forty
- 11:17Speaker 3: eight and a T twenty game with the well what.
- 11:20Speaker 6: Did you get?
- 11:20Speaker 7: One hundred and thirty five Extrawdinarry batting display in Mumbai
- 11:25Speaker 7: under lights?
- 11:27Speaker 3: Did you watch aukndif see no, I did well? I did?
- 11:30Speaker 3: I did and I tempressive showing this well. I'll tell
- 11:33Speaker 3: you why they are magnificent in defense. They're very physical.
- 11:37Speaker 3: The refs are allowing physical play. They're a great watch
- 11:39Speaker 3: all the time. You know, and when you do a
- 11:41Speaker 3: big tackle. People go why and if you've got a
- 11:43Speaker 3: hei every every two minutes, you're a happy punter, you know.
- 11:46Speaker 6: Yeah, they're pretty compelling.
- 11:47Speaker 7: And what a start to this this tenure of these
- 11:51Speaker 7: or this season campaign life.
- 11:54Speaker 3: That's what that's what happens when you get a pro
- 11:56Speaker 3: in charge. Speaking about a pro, Chris Wood gets a
- 11:59Speaker 3: hat trick.
- 12:01Speaker 7: I know, just another remarkable display from Chris Wood to
- 12:04Speaker 7: seven NL victory and yeah, seventeen goals this season.
- 12:09Speaker 6: Just yeah, a frontier, just pioneering from New Zealand football.
- 12:13Speaker 7: What Chris Wood's been able to put together there, seventeen
- 12:15Speaker 7: goals for the season and sitting behind for Mohammed Salah
- 12:20Speaker 7: Sala and Early Harland and just continues to go from
- 12:25Speaker 7: strength to stry. I mean, I guess from a team
- 12:26Speaker 7: perspective too, Nottingham Forest. I mean we talk about Wood
- 12:29Speaker 7: is individual. They haven't played in Europe since nineteen ninety
- 12:32Speaker 7: six and they've got a buffer there.
- 12:35Speaker 6: They're well on the way.
- 12:36Speaker 3: I remember Brian cuff Yeah, Brian Cuffe was the manager.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Can I just say how things have changed? We just
- 12:43Speaker 3: talked about football right at the start, and that's how
- 12:46Speaker 3: big football has suddenly become in New Zealand. It's been
- 12:49Speaker 3: growing for a long time. But I think that's great however.
- 12:52Speaker 7: It is, and I think it's a growing trend. I
- 12:55Speaker 7: think it's going to continue.
- 12:57Speaker 3: My boy was at the game and I phoned him
- 12:59Speaker 3: up because one of him come around. We're going to
- 13:00Speaker 3: do dinner. We did dinner last night and I said
- 13:02Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to him about what he wanted
- 13:04Speaker 3: for dinner, and he said he actually takes the back
- 13:05Speaker 3: saying I can't phone you it's too loud. And that's
- 13:08Speaker 3: a good thing. Do we get all, lydia Co? How's
- 13:11Speaker 3: Lydia going now?
- 13:12Speaker 6: Lydia Co struggling at the start.
- 13:14Speaker 7: She's dropped two shots today so far through three holes,
- 13:17Speaker 7: so she's not under overall five strokes off the lead
- 13:20Speaker 7: at the sort of the chief, just trying to defend
- 13:22Speaker 7: your title in Florida. Not looking good so far. But
- 13:26Speaker 7: Lydia Coe, we all know can come back into it.
- 13:29Speaker 3: And you're relentlessly optimistic, aren't you. She is allowed to
- 13:32Speaker 3: lose every now and then. And if you're getting getting
- 13:35Speaker 3: rid of career, if you're getting ready for the super Bowl,
- 13:37Speaker 3: which is in a week's time, for the big kiss
- 13:41Speaker 3: between Travis and that thing of woman. Did you see
- 13:45Speaker 3: the photograph?
- 13:47Speaker 6: No?
- 13:48Speaker 3: No, Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey kiss
- 13:53Speaker 3: after the semi final win. But it broke the internet.
- 13:56Speaker 3: The biggest quarterback and the biggest America's sweetheart.
- 13:58Speaker 6: This is a lot about our society, it doesn't it.
- 14:00Speaker 3: But NFL is coming to Australia.
- 14:02Speaker 6: Yeah, that's remarkable news, isn't it.
- 14:04Speaker 7: So Melbourne looks like they've got three games least, they're
- 14:06Speaker 7: a little locked in starting from twenty twenty six and
- 14:11Speaker 7: they have the sole right to it apparently. So it's
- 14:13Speaker 7: not going to go to Sydney or Perth at the
- 14:15Speaker 7: mc yeah MCG and watch some NFL.
- 14:17Speaker 3: Well are you inviting me? Will you pay? Will you
- 14:22Speaker 3: pay a little bit on your sort of salary?
- 14:25Speaker 4: Oh?
- 14:26Speaker 3: I will be rowing a boat then rowing a boat. Hey, Andrew,
- 14:29Speaker 3: thank you so much. Baking with Sports News.
- 14:32Speaker 1: It's News Talks B the early edition full show podcast
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- 14:41Speaker 3: Talks B and five twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens and
- 14:45Speaker 3: for Ryan Bridge. So the country is desperate to go
- 14:48Speaker 3: for growth for obvious reasons, and that means we're having
- 14:51Speaker 3: a good old debate and I like it. The question
- 14:53Speaker 3: is how and you go to a barbecue, you go anywhere,
- 14:56Speaker 3: people start talking about the economy. What should we do?
- 14:58Speaker 3: What should we do? We're going to have to do
- 14:59Speaker 3: something because what we've been doing over the last thirty
- 15:02Speaker 3: years hasn't worked. We've got three points of view over
- 15:04Speaker 3: the weekend. So first of all, Friday it was the
- 15:06Speaker 3: turn of Matthew Houghton and the Herald. He had a
- 15:09Speaker 3: piece called New Zealand needs this strategic approach to building wealth,
- 15:13Speaker 3: like Singapore's Temasek. Now, Temasek owns and manages assets that
- 15:18Speaker 3: are held directly by the Singapore government. They operate a
- 15:21Speaker 3: major bank and an insurance company, Singapore Airlines, the country's
- 15:24Speaker 3: main port, the Marina Bay, Sandstel, hotel, a load of
- 15:28Speaker 3: other things, biggest company in Singapore. It's a good idea
- 15:32Speaker 3: and we have actually been investigating it for decades. Even
- 15:35Speaker 3: Grant Robinson was interested in having a New Zealand agency
- 15:39Speaker 3: like Temasek here, but nothing's ever happened. So it has
- 15:42Speaker 3: cross party appeal. Why hasn't it happened? No one knows us.
- 15:46Speaker 3: The politicians all talk, no action, Honestly, twenty or thirty
- 15:49Speaker 3: years have been talking about this. Nothing's happened anyway. Then
- 15:52Speaker 3: on Sunday it was the turn of Don Brash at
- 15:54Speaker 3: Michael Riddell, who in a shared piece said our problem
- 15:57Speaker 3: was low productivity. Good Lord, If I had a dollar
- 15:59Speaker 3: for every time someone said our problem is low productivity,
- 16:02Speaker 3: I'd be a very rich man. People say this all
- 16:04Speaker 3: the time, every single politician says that, but nobody has
- 16:07Speaker 3: an answer to it. They just go, what we did
- 16:09Speaker 3: is better productivity. Well, how do we do that? I
- 16:11Speaker 3: don't know, but I know we need better productivity. So
- 16:15Speaker 3: in their piece, Brash and Midell the only profit solution
- 16:19Speaker 3: that they offered in the piece was to lower company
- 16:21Speaker 3: tax rates to attract overseas and local investment. And they
- 16:24Speaker 3: sat there and claimed that we have one of the
- 16:26Speaker 3: highest company tax rates in the world, which is balderdash.
- 16:30Speaker 3: We set it around twenty eight percent. Australia is at
- 16:32Speaker 3: thirty percent, the states in the UK are around twenty
- 16:35Speaker 3: six percent. Were actually slightly above medium. And no disrespect
- 16:39Speaker 3: to Dom Brash, you had terms as a Reserve bank
- 16:42Speaker 3: governor and a leader of a couple of political parties,
- 16:45Speaker 3: and plenty of opportunities to lift productivity, but you failed too.
- 16:51Speaker 3: And the third piece was from Sam Stubbs, who said,
- 16:54Speaker 3: if we're selling public assets, let's sell them to New
- 16:57Speaker 3: Zealanders like super funds. Well stays in New Zealand instead
- 17:01Speaker 3: of being exported. And I agreed with this. Stop staying productivity,
- 17:05Speaker 3: start saying wealth creations, start creating some wealth keeping in
- 17:08Speaker 3: New Zealand, find out how to make or supply stuff
- 17:10Speaker 3: that the world wants, and then keep the profits and
- 17:13Speaker 3: the workers in New Zealand. Then we start generating wealth.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Then we recycle it to make more wealth. And that
- 17:18Speaker 3: is Denmark's trick. You know, you know that Denmark operates
- 17:22Speaker 3: the second largest container ship operation in the world. And
- 17:25Speaker 3: the reason why to import capital rather than to export it.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Andrew Dickens, we got the latest news in just a
- 17:33Speaker 3: few moments time, and then we're around New Zealand and
- 17:36Speaker 3: off to Gavin Gray where Tony Blair has been calling
- 17:38Speaker 3: Keir Starmer names.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof make
- 17:45Speaker 1: your Property search simple, Uth talk Zippy.
- 17:51Speaker 8: No hold them they are cut down, down, down down.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Obviously this is Beyonce. You she's been nominated for far
- 18:02Speaker 3: too many awards in today's Grammys. Sorry, I just thought
- 18:06Speaker 3: this was a cold hearted cash grab, and she'd anyway,
- 18:09Speaker 3: that's just me. This is a fun song. The Grammys
- 18:12Speaker 3: are today. We all have coverages. The day goes on
- 18:15Speaker 3: to text correspondents Andrew, you were incorrect about the business
- 18:20Speaker 3: tax because you're forgetting GST. No, I'm not actually a study.
- 18:24Speaker 3: I look from an international tax organization. Actually factored in
- 18:26Speaker 3: all the sales taxes around the world and every other things.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Of course, overseas you also have federal taxes and state taxes,
- 18:33Speaker 3: and you know local taxes rates. They have more layers
- 18:37Speaker 3: of tax there's all sorts of sort of taxes that
- 18:39Speaker 3: people are having to pay, and they factored this in.
- 18:41Speaker 3: Don't worry. New Zealand is not a high it's not
- 18:44Speaker 3: the highest. It's not what Don Brash said. It's probably
- 18:48Speaker 3: pretty much middle. Someone writes football what an awful word.
- 18:53Speaker 3: It's like calling Mercedes car or champagne drink. Soccer has
- 18:57Speaker 3: lost its identity and it's sad. Sorry you're wrong there too.
- 19:00Speaker 3: I'm afraid. Coming from a football fan family, we've been
- 19:04Speaker 3: football fans for four generations. It was always football soccer
- 19:09Speaker 3: is an American aberration, an invention to differentiate it from
- 19:13Speaker 3: their American football, which they play mostly with their hand.
- 19:16Speaker 3: Go figure that and someone writes how pathetic that z
- 19:19Speaker 3: be cannot in a sports commentary give credit to the
- 19:21Speaker 3: amazing Wellington Blaze for its six Big Bash win in
- 19:24Speaker 3: eight years, but you talk about AUCKLANDFC. Oh, you're obviously
- 19:27Speaker 3: at Auckland Team Murray from pilot. I'm sorry. Wellington Blaze
- 19:31Speaker 3: is amazing, six Big Bash win in eight years. I
- 19:34Speaker 3: hope that makes you happy, so to come in the
- 19:36Speaker 3: program today, we're talking about the tariffs. The tariff war
- 19:40Speaker 3: has started between the United States, Canada and Mexico. It's
- 19:45Speaker 3: a biggie a model gauging the economic impact of Trump's
- 19:49Speaker 3: tariff plan. This was done by Ernst Young. Suggests it
- 19:53Speaker 3: would reduce US growth by one point five percentage points
- 19:56Speaker 3: this year. Because it's the US to play the tariffs,
- 19:59Speaker 3: it's going to through Canada and Mexico into recession and
- 20:03Speaker 3: asherins stag fation. So there's a lot of risks in this.
- 20:07Speaker 3: We're going to be talking about this with an expert
- 20:09Speaker 3: in geopolitical stuff just before six o'clock today. It is
- 20:13Speaker 3: twenty one to six.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Andrew dickens.
- 20:16Speaker 3: His name is Jeffrey Miller. We're around the country right now,
- 20:18Speaker 3: to need didn't we go first? And Callum Proctor joins us. Hello,
- 20:21Speaker 3: Callum morning Andrew. It's a meteorite hunt in South End.
- 20:25Speaker 8: Yeah, it's underway. Unfortunately though a cloudy night on Friday nights,
- 20:30Speaker 8: posing an issue for those trying to pinpoint its exact location.
- 20:34Speaker 8: This meteorite became a fireball and raced above Queenstown around
- 20:38Speaker 8: eleven o'clock on Friday night before burning out over Northern
- 20:42Speaker 8: South and many across the region. So they saw it
- 20:45Speaker 8: and heard the sonic boom. In fact, some in Australia
- 20:47Speaker 8: claim to have seen it as well. A fireballs are
- 20:50Speaker 8: so there was too much cloud cover to get specifics
- 20:52Speaker 8: on the location. There's just a slight chance they might
- 20:55Speaker 8: locate it. If they do, it would be New Zealand's
- 20:58Speaker 8: eleventh documented meteorite.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Fireball altera Roll. What a great name. So how is
- 21:04Speaker 3: the weather today for the great meteor right hunt?
- 21:06Speaker 8: You're good fine today toleed in high twenty five, very
- 21:10Speaker 8: good to.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Canary, We go. Claire Sherwood joins us. Now Helliclaire Hello,
- 21:14Speaker 3: and new charter school opens today.
- 21:16Speaker 9: Yes, Marstery Schools, New Zealand Adapaky opens at Hillsborough this morning.
- 21:20Speaker 9: This is one of three charter schools to open across
- 21:22Speaker 9: the country today. Actually, the role here at the Christ
- 21:25Speaker 9: Church School will start at sixty primary school age children.
- 21:28Speaker 9: There's another forty on the waitlist as well, all of
- 21:31Speaker 9: them children who struggle in mainstream schooling classrooms. Principal Rose
- 21:36Speaker 9: mcinernie says other schools are excited about this opportunity for students.
- 21:40Speaker 9: She says allowing them to come to their school for
- 21:42Speaker 9: a few years will help them before they return to
- 21:45Speaker 9: mainstream schooling. Everyone hopes anyway. Mcinernie says they do do
- 21:49Speaker 9: a few things differently at Marstery Schools, including some longer
- 21:52Speaker 9: school days. There'll also be a higher teacher and teaching
- 21:55Speaker 9: assistant to student ratio.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Great stuff. How's your weather hearing this morning?
- 22:00Speaker 9: It will become fine. Easterly is developing a bit later
- 22:03Speaker 9: and a high of twenty four.
- 22:04Speaker 3: And I thank you and we go to Wellington. Max Toll,
- 22:06Speaker 3: good morning. We missed you on Friday Friday?
- 22:09Speaker 10: Yes, where was I on Friday? I can't think.
- 22:12Speaker 3: We're not They of interested anyway, you have a special
- 22:16Speaker 3: birthing center. What's the story about that today?
- 22:20Speaker 10: Yeah, the new Health Minister is asking for an urgent
- 22:23Speaker 10: briefing after a special care unit for sick babies that
- 22:28Speaker 10: was meant for Lower Hut was effectively quietly shelved. Health
- 22:32Speaker 10: New Zealand had announced back in twenty twenty two under
- 22:35Speaker 10: the previous government, of course, that it planned to repurpose
- 22:39Speaker 10: of the former our Kaivangi a birthing center in Lower
- 22:42Speaker 10: Hut into this into a new unit for sick babies
- 22:45Speaker 10: and young children that was supposed to have opened by
- 22:48Speaker 10: mid last year. A Labour's Hut based MP Ginny Anderson
- 22:52Speaker 10: has been asking questions for several months, parliamentary questions. She's
- 22:55Speaker 10: told our newsroom she now understands that it has been canceled,
- 23:00Speaker 10: which she says as a broken promise to the community.
- 23:02Speaker 10: Simeon Brown says he's looking into it getting updated, but
- 23:06Speaker 10: it doesn't look good for this designated special unit.
- 23:09Speaker 3: Okay, and how's your weather.
- 23:11Speaker 10: She'll be fine today. Northerly's getting up to twenty two central.
- 23:14Speaker 3: Thank you, Max and Neva Lettiman who was in Orkandalla.
- 23:17Speaker 11: Neva, good morning, you paid me a compliment, de sing
- 23:20Speaker 11: you couldn't see or hear me when I first walked
- 23:22Speaker 11: into the studio. Normally I'm like a bull in a
- 23:24Speaker 11: china shop. He every other host goes, oh my goodness,
- 23:27Speaker 11: you're so loud.
- 23:28Speaker 3: Yeah, well look at you. Well you've come back to
- 23:30Speaker 3: type now, haven't you. So we've got a couple of
- 23:33Speaker 3: custody officers who are attacked.
- 23:35Speaker 11: Yes, now, look, what's happened to you? Is that the
- 23:37Speaker 11: two officers they are now apparently recovering from facial injuries. Now,
- 23:41Speaker 11: an attack last week happened and this was at Auckland
- 23:44Speaker 11: District Court if you missed that. So the two they
- 23:46Speaker 11: were escorting a thirty one year old man. This is
- 23:48Speaker 11: from the courtroom back to custody. It happened around three
- 23:51Speaker 11: point fifteen pm on Tuesday afternoon. Now we do know
- 23:54Speaker 11: that one office is suffered a frenchiir jaw, the other
- 23:57Speaker 11: was knocked out and apparently other stuff. They had to
- 24:00Speaker 11: rush through several locked gates to restrain the man. So
- 24:03Speaker 11: police believe that this attack was unprovoked. A colleague of
- 24:07Speaker 11: the officers say, look, also, there's been growing agitation in
- 24:10Speaker 11: the sales due to overcrowding, and he says that you know,
- 24:13Speaker 11: lots of people there have been in custody since Friday,
- 24:15Speaker 11: the previous week, and this is due to delays over
- 24:18Speaker 11: the long weekend. And as you can imagine with the
- 24:20Speaker 11: white Tangye coming up this weekend, so those you know,
- 24:22Speaker 11: more public holidays and Raley this.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Week as a wreck because the holiday is on Thursday,
- 24:28Speaker 3: and then people take the bridge. That's right, except me.
- 24:31Speaker 3: I'm going to be doing Mike's breakfast show for him
- 24:33Speaker 3: because he's taking the bridge because he's already exhausted after
- 24:35Speaker 3: it's two much holiday anyway, and I'm going to.
- 24:37Speaker 11: Be here because I'm on minus ten and your leave days,
- 24:41Speaker 11: so I'm going to be annoying you.
- 24:43Speaker 3: But a Thursday white tangy day, that's good. Thursday white
- 24:45Speaker 3: tangy Day just gets in the wave of all sorts
- 24:47Speaker 3: of productivity and kids at school and all sorts cool.
- 24:49Speaker 3: How's hawks were there?
- 24:51Speaker 5: Right?
- 24:51Speaker 11: Partly cloudy, a few morning showers, but get this hot
- 24:54Speaker 11: and humid in Auckland was hot in humid yesterday? Twenty
- 24:57Speaker 11: seven is the high here?
- 24:59Speaker 3: Can it is? Seventeen minutes to six. We're talking tariffs
- 25:02Speaker 3: before sex with Jeffrey Miller. Here's another one. National Foreign
- 25:06Speaker 3: Trade Council President Jake Colvin says Trump's move threatens to
- 25:10Speaker 3: raise the cost of everything from avocados to automobiles across
- 25:15Speaker 3: basically the whole world, and urge the US, Canada, and
- 25:18Speaker 3: Mexico to find a quick solution to avoid escalation. Can
- 25:21Speaker 3: I tell you about automobile parts? Canada makes some, Mexico
- 25:25Speaker 3: makes some, and then of course America builds the cars.
- 25:29Speaker 3: But then sometimes when they're halfway through building the cars,
- 25:31Speaker 3: to send the cars to Canada or to Mexico to
- 25:34Speaker 3: do a little bit more and then back again. Can
- 25:36Speaker 3: you imagine how much tariff's is going to go on
- 25:38Speaker 3: that vehicle by the time you finally get to market.
- 25:41Speaker 3: I wonder if Americans realize this. But we'll talk about
- 25:43Speaker 3: the implications with Jeffrey Miller just before six here on
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- 26:46Speaker 1: International correspondence with Enzi Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
- 26:50Speaker 1: New Zealand business to the UK.
- 26:53Speaker 3: We Go in The big news is that Sterling Mosses
- 26:56Speaker 3: race car has sold for the highest ever amount it
- 27:00Speaker 3: has ever been paid for a Grand Prix car. It
- 27:03Speaker 3: is a Here we Go. It's a silver W one
- 27:07Speaker 3: nine six Arstroum Liniar Avagen, one of only four complete examples.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Sterling Moss used to race in the whole thing, and
- 27:14Speaker 3: it's sold for fifty one point one to five euros
- 27:17Speaker 3: million euros should they say fifty one point one five
- 27:19Speaker 3: million euros?
- 27:20Speaker 4: Right?
- 27:21Speaker 3: That's one hundred million. That's one hundred and two million
- 27:23Speaker 3: dollars for one race car. And the amazing thing is
- 27:26Speaker 3: Sterling Moss still alive. I've checked them. He's he's ninety
- 27:29Speaker 3: years old today at this moment. The costest car you
- 27:34Speaker 3: ever sold, by the way, if you're interested, was a
- 27:35Speaker 3: nineteen fifty five Mercedes three hundred sl Uhlenhut coupe that
- 27:40Speaker 3: change hands for wait for this, one hundred and thirty
- 27:43Speaker 3: five million euros in May of twenty twenty two. That's
- 27:48Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy million bucks for a car. And
- 27:52Speaker 3: the most expensive Grand Prix before this sold at auction
- 27:55Speaker 3: was a Fangio Mercedes W one nine six from nineteen
- 27:58Speaker 3: fifty four nine point six million US, which is what
- 28:02Speaker 3: fifty of a million dollars, and that was back in
- 28:05Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. So many expensive cars, that's for sure. It's
- 28:08Speaker 3: eleven to six. So, as promised, President Donald Trump has
- 28:15Speaker 3: slapped tariffs on goods coming from Canada, Mexico and China
- 28:19Speaker 3: twenty five percent on imports from Canada and Mexico, China's
- 28:22Speaker 3: getting ten percent. All three countries plan a counter attack.
- 28:25Speaker 3: Canada has already done that, albeit reluctantly. And so to
- 28:29Speaker 3: talk about this, I am joined by geopolitical analyst Jeffrey Miller.
- 28:33Speaker 2: Hello Jeffrey, Good morning, Andrew.
- 28:37Speaker 3: It's all on it's trade wars.
- 28:39Speaker 2: It is indeed, this is the beginning of a new
- 28:42Speaker 2: trade war, and it's just not going to be good
- 28:44Speaker 2: for a country like New Zealand. There's an old African
- 28:47Speaker 2: proverb that says, when the elephants fight, the grass gets trampled.
- 28:50Speaker 2: I think that's applicable yet very good.
- 28:51Speaker 3: We'll talk about that more in a moment. But it's
- 28:53Speaker 3: going to affect America as well. There's an analysis by
- 28:56Speaker 3: Ernest Young that suggests it will reduce UK growth growth
- 29:00Speaker 3: should I say, by one point five percentage points this year,
- 29:04Speaker 3: which you don't want. Canada and Mexico will be thrown
- 29:07Speaker 3: into recession and there will be stagflation in all three countries.
- 29:11Speaker 3: Do you think Americans and Donald Trump truly understand the
- 29:14Speaker 3: economic consequences.
- 29:17Speaker 2: No, I think we're in uncharted territory here. I don't
- 29:19Speaker 2: think we've been here really since the Great Depression. In
- 29:22Speaker 2: many ways, there are similar action taken back in nineteen
- 29:25Speaker 2: thirty ironically, and it does have his does seem familiar
- 29:30Speaker 2: in a sense from that time because the tariffs that
- 29:33Speaker 2: Donald Trump placed on during his first term we're lower
- 29:37Speaker 2: in nature. The tariff that he's promising now are about
- 29:39Speaker 2: three times the level. They're much broader based. There aren't
- 29:43Speaker 2: really the exceptions except for Canadian energy, which we'll get
- 29:47Speaker 2: a ten percent Tariffrutherland twenty five percent. But the tariffs
- 29:51Speaker 2: on China's pretty much on everything. Ten percent on all
- 29:54Speaker 2: Chinese goods and twenty five percent or goods from coming
- 29:58Speaker 2: from Mexico. So it's a big play from Donald Trump,
- 30:00Speaker 2: and the markets don't like it. We're expecting tumbles in
- 30:04Speaker 2: the markets when they open on Monday, anywhere between half
- 30:06Speaker 2: and one percent. It could be more on the days
- 30:09Speaker 2: to come, and that might be the only thing that
- 30:11Speaker 2: possibly changes Donald Trump's mind.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Justin Trudeau has laid out retaliatory tariffs and made it
- 30:16Speaker 3: very clear he's done so reluctantly. Mexico says they will follow.
- 30:19Speaker 3: So apparently America has retaliatory tariffs already I regulated for
- 30:24Speaker 3: so if you do that, it happens as fighting tariff
- 30:28Speaker 3: with tariff's a good move.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Well, he's fighting fire with fire and not backing down.
- 30:34Speaker 2: I guess it's a game of brinksmanship here, and Justin
- 30:38Speaker 2: Trudeau will be betting on some kind of resolution, a
- 30:41Speaker 2: deal being done. Of course, Donald Trump loves the deal,
- 30:44Speaker 2: and he'll be hoping for much the same thing, because
- 30:47Speaker 2: in the end, this is being used as a powerplay.
- 30:50Speaker 2: It's being used that Donald Trump is putting these tariff
- 30:53Speaker 2: in place under emergency legislation dating back to nineteen seventy seven,
- 30:57Speaker 2: which is why he's got these reasons of sentinel and
- 31:00Speaker 2: illegal immigration as the reasons, because he needs a rationale
- 31:05Speaker 2: for doing this, and he's looking for concessions much in
- 31:08Speaker 2: the way that he got concessions from Columbia. Columbia had
- 31:12Speaker 2: to agree to take in those deportation flights, and he'll
- 31:16Speaker 2: be looking for similar kinds of concessions from Mexico and
- 31:20Speaker 2: Canada and getting the United States, as he would see it,
- 31:22Speaker 2: a better deal.
- 31:23Speaker 3: So, look, what kind of message is this sending to
- 31:25Speaker 3: the world. Canada is a close ally of America. Look
- 31:28Speaker 3: at justin Trudeau's speech, he evoked all the fighting on
- 31:31Speaker 3: the beaches and the wars and everything. You know, we
- 31:33Speaker 3: are a close friend, and yet they still have not
- 31:35Speaker 3: been spared. So does New Zealand need to be wary here?
- 31:41Speaker 2: Indeed, look the lesson here is that no one is immune.
- 31:44Speaker 2: If Donald Trump is willing to place tariffs on Canada,
- 31:48Speaker 2: he's also threatening to place tariffs on the EU, then
- 31:51Speaker 2: New Zealand. I don't think he's got any real protection.
- 31:54Speaker 2: New Zealand isn't a formal US allies, a bit more
- 31:57Speaker 2: distance than the likes of Canada and Australia the UK,
- 32:00Speaker 2: so I don't think New Zealom would have any great immunity.
- 32:03Speaker 2: New Zealand exports sixteen billion New Zealand dollars worth of
- 32:07Speaker 2: goods and services to the US every year, even while
- 32:11Speaker 2: there are restrictions on what we export, and New Zealand's
- 32:14Speaker 2: still the exports two and a half billion dollars worth
- 32:16Speaker 2: of beef and other meta exports to the US every
- 32:19Speaker 2: year despite the being restrictions on it. I mean just
- 32:22Speaker 2: that alone, the meatia exports that New Zealand sends to
- 32:25Speaker 2: the US every year, that alone is about the entirety
- 32:29Speaker 2: or even slightly more than what we export to the
- 32:31Speaker 2: golf region every year. And we just signed that new
- 32:35Speaker 2: free trade agreement. Always conclude a negastations on that the
- 32:37Speaker 2: end of last year.
- 32:38Speaker 3: Take you into account that we need to be wary.
- 32:40Speaker 3: The question and should we speak out about what's actually
- 32:42Speaker 3: happening in the world right now? Would that be dangerous?
- 32:45Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. Do you want to poke
- 32:47Speaker 2: your head up above the parapet and speak out? All
- 32:49Speaker 2: that just leads you to being clobbed. I think we're
- 32:51Speaker 2: going to be in Donald Trump's site anyway. As I say,
- 32:54Speaker 2: if Canada and the EU are then New Zealand can't
- 32:57Speaker 2: be far away because we've got even less protection less
- 33:00Speaker 2: to offer, we're much smaller. I think probably the answer
- 33:03Speaker 2: at the moment is to keep our heads down and
- 33:05Speaker 2: work the diplomatic channel. So I think Winston Peter's the
- 33:07Speaker 2: Foreign Minister, Tom McLay the Trade minister, should be working
- 33:10Speaker 2: the phones with their counterparts and trying to get sency
- 33:15Speaker 2: to prevail here because in the end, everyone's going to
- 33:17Speaker 2: be the loser with a trade war.
- 33:19Speaker 3: That's true. Thank you so much, Jeffrey Miller.
- 33:21Speaker 1: The News you need this morning and the in depth
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- 33:31Speaker 3: A fort to six and more semi breaking news. Phil
- 33:36Speaker 3: Punk's attorney, Phil the ground Hog a couple of hours
- 33:39Speaker 3: ago poked his nose out and that means he saw
- 33:41Speaker 3: his shadow, which means apparently there's going to be six
- 33:43Speaker 3: more weeks of winter in America, and due to the
- 33:46Speaker 3: law of reciprocity, that means six more weeks of summer.
- 33:49Speaker 3: Phanzealand Good News and Michael Mike Husking is here.
- 33:52Speaker 12: Very good morning COVID. We'll talk to the heavy Phase
- 33:55Speaker 12: two today. They've openedworth, They've opened a portal.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Yes, they want feedback.
- 34:02Speaker 12: I'm assuming they're bracing for you know, because all about
- 34:04Speaker 12: vaccines and ppe and stuff like that.
- 34:06Speaker 3: The last time they opened a thing online and it's sort
- 34:08Speaker 3: of crash because the.
- 34:10Speaker 12: Prior you wait too when you wait till it opens today,
- 34:12Speaker 12: So there'll be a lot of ans about that.
- 34:13Speaker 3: So we'll do it. We'll talk about that and more
- 34:15Speaker 3: on the more on the tariff since of course grace up.
- 34:18Speaker 3: My name is Andrew Dickinson. My thanks to.
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