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#182 - Morgan Smith - Kalm with Kava CEO · The Chris and Mike Show

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  Oh, it's a whole. It's a whole episode, man, Yeah.
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  with all the shorts, reels, etcetera dropped in a couple
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  weeks or so. With that being said, Morgan
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  Smith from Cava Root, right? Is that what we're calling it?
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  Kava root? Yeah, I mean, I, I, I import
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  Kava root from throughout the South Pacific.
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  My company's name is Calm with Kava.
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  I'm a Kava guy. I'm a Kava nerd.
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  Kava guy, so you found us because you watched the Apache
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  Joe show and so you sent me an e-mail or us an e-mail to the
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  show wanted to talk about your products.
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  So I'm pulling up your website right now.
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  If you can see that we are kava.com, so give us a little
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  bit of insight as to what you're it's the websites kava.com,
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  kava.com. So give us a little bit of, you
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  know, we're in an elevator of Morgan pitch.
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  Your pitch, your stuff, man. Well, it's, it's a, it's calm
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  with kava.com. It's calm with AK, calm with
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  kava.com. OK, OK.
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  But I mean, Kava is a, it's a route, it's going throughout the
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  South Pacific, right? So there's a lot of different
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  Kava companies out there. And so I'm just one of them,
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  right? But Kava is a plant that's been
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  going throughout the South Pacific and cava has, it has
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  been used for a long time. It's been used for 3000 years to
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  kind of help people connect with one another and relax.
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  And you know, it's, it's kind of like a, like a Polynesian peace
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  pipe. Oh, right on.
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  Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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  So now expand on how you came to be in this field of expertise,
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  you know, what brought you to this and then how do people use
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  it and apply it that don't know anything about it because I
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  guess I don't know much about it.
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  Yeah, so I found it because like 10-12 years ago I was, I was
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  pretty anxious, I was depressed. I was, I was in AI was in a bad
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  spot. And I, I went to my doctor and I
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  asked them for some help and I got, I got some benzodiazepines
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  like a Xanax, right? And.
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  Been through it myself. OK, All right, So you guys are
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  fully, you know, aware what what that experience is like.
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  For me personally, it hit me really strong.
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  It was like a really crazy sort of a situation where I could not
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  I couldn't really function on it.
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  I I took a pill and then I just blacked out.
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  Like I don't remember what I did the rest of the day.
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  Like I was driving Co workers to lunch and stuff and, and that
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  was not something that was, this is a good thing for me or my
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  family, you know. So I need to find an alternative
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  to help me kind of deal with the stresses of life and and I
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  found. Kava cool, OK, now how did that
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  help? You know, it seems like this is
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  180° from what you and I experienced with with benzos.
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  For me, I just had no emotions. I had no highs or lows anymore
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  right? I was just kind of existing for
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  the year 2, maybe 3 that I took those and I just got tired of
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  it, you know, I, I felt like I was just waking up and every day
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  was Groundhog Day, right? I'm doing the same thing, but
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  I'm not having any fun really. You know, I'm not feeling the
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  good times and I'm also not experiencing the bad times.
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  But when you're going through life like that, you don't
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  realize you're just on autopilot, right?
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  So how did Kava take away the anxiety?
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  Because I we suffer that together, I can promise you, but
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  still allow you to enjoy the, you know, a day-to-day
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  existence. Yeah, I mean, look like I, I, I
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  want to be very careful with like how I say this because, you
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  know, my I, I'm registered with the FDA and so, you know, I
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  cannot say that Cava is going to help with any particular medical
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  claim. I'm.
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  Just asking. Anxiety, yeah.
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  Yeah, Yeah. No, I just want to be very clear
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  here, right? I I'm I'm not in, I'm not
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  interested in getting sued by anyone and and I certainly
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  don't. Want to understood in a way?
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  But I, I will say this, I think that a lot of the
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  pharmaceuticals out there are, you know, they're, they're long
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  term solutions for what a lot of people experience as a short
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  term problem, right? So I know personally, in my
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  experience, I was going through a particular crisis that lasted
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  a couple of months. I did not something I did not
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  need something that was going to last for years and years and
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  years, right? I did not need to be on
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  something for a long time. And so, and I'm, and I'm not
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  saying Western medicine is bad, right?
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  My wife is a nurse and my, my brother's a doctor.
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  I believe in Western medicine, but I think that there should be
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  more of a holistic viewpoint on like what we could potentially
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  use to help us get through our day.
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  And so Kaaba is something that that really helps you relax.
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  It helps you calm down at the end of the day.
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  I, I really like to have it kind of like to, you know, kind of
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  just take a couple of minutes, think about what happened during
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  the day, think about what I can do tomorrow better.
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  And Kaaba kind of helps to just to tone down some of those
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  thoughts and just chill out, right?
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  I, I look at it like kind of like an intense chamomile or
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  maybe like a 10th of weed, right?
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  Like it's not something that's going to be super intense.
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  Can. Relate to that as well.
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  Yeah, like you're not going to be on the ceiling, you're not
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  going to be in space. You're sure you're still going
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  to make good decisions and you're also going to remember
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  what you did last night. So that's that's how I look at
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  Kava. That's a great.
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  So there's so there's a little stigma with it, right?
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  Anything that's that's not like you said, you're FDA, you don't
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  want to you don't want to, you know, specifically claim things
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  because I get that. But there's always a little bit
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  of stigma with stuff that's not Western medicine, right?
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  Because OK, the side effects of this and that and my wife being
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  my wife, when, when I, when I shared your e-mail, she
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  automatically googled everything because that's what she does,
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  right? Even though she doesn't watch
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  the shit. Because, you know, it's kind of
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  like when we, when Mike and I would write our write our songs
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  in the band and stuff. She could care less when the
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  album, when the stuff comes out because she lives it.
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  So sure, she'll never watch it, but she googled it and she's
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  like, oh, I'm going to watch this one, which will be cool if
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  she actually does. Because, you know, she helped me
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  write a book and she's never read the book and people give
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  her shit. So when, when, when people have
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  this, they, they, they create the stigma about things they
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  don't understand, right? It's like when, when marijuana
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  became legalized from medical purpose, you know, everybody's
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  up in arms, right? Oh, you can't do, they can't do
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  that. World's in a crash, right?
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  They they looked at Colorado and how Colorado had all these
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  problems because of that. Even though it was the most
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  prescribed painkiller from 18 whatever until 19 O 5 when
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  aspirin came back around, right? Right.
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  Doctors prescribed it regularly and nobody even talked about the
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  high. They only talked about the
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  medical benefit. It cures my anxiety, my pain, it
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  takes away my arthritis, makes me hungry again, you know,
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  whatever. Right, and it's a reason now
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  that it's the most prescribed even like I've gone to therapy
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  because I had some issues from a child growing up and my
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  therapist one point time she trying to put me on meds.
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  I was like, no, I don't, I'm not doing meds.
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  I've just worked through this. I don't need to be medicated.
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  She's like, well, smoke pot. And I was like, kind of like
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  really. And so she explained the
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  benefits of it. So I, I totally get how that's
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  evolved over over time, you know, and there's a reason why
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  the NFL and baseball, you know, and well-being and stuff, they
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  don't test for pot anymore because it helps for recovery
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  and pain and all that kind of jazz.
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  So when somebody comes out you with negative connotations about
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  Cava and your product and and what you're doing, how do you
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  help them understand? It's, it's not a bad thing
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  because it's like anything else. It's a, it's a, it's a plant
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  based root, right? Yeah, yeah, I mean, OK, so I,
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  I'm really glad that you bring this up because that is the
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  number one reason I reached out is because I feel like I'm kind
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  of on a mission. I'm, I'm a bit of a kavangelist.
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  I'm someone that I just really think that Kava can be very
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  beneficial to people. Yeah.
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  And I and so I, I feel like it's doing the plant and by the way,
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  the, the people that have been growing it for 3000 years a
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  disservice. If we're saying that Kava is one
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  thing when it's completely and. That's why you're here, Morgan.
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  Because we want. We want, we want your side up
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  from somebody who is champion the 'cause it's kind of like
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  hemp. It's been around since, you
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  know, Jesus. Jesus was walking around in hemp
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  suits, man. Like you can't tell me Jesus
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  wasn't in the desert 40 days and 40 nights and wasn't doing a
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  little opium or smoking a little bit weed because, you know, he's
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  randomly talking to people that aren't there.
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  OK of? Course they were.
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  They didn't have the Internet or television, you know.
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  I mean, Moses and and the burning Bush, I'm pretty sure
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  he's got something going on. Right.
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  And the water into wine, Would you actually put that water to
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  make people think it was wine? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So burning Bush was clearly the Acacia Bush, correct?
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  Right. Who knows, man?
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  I'm, I'm not a look, I'm not a biblical scholar here, but I
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  think there's something going on.
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  But so, so like, if you look at Australia, they did a harm
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  ranking study of all of these different substances.
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  They it was like 50 different substances and alcohol was 98
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  out of 100 in terms of how harmful it was, right?
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  We all know that we all, you know, we've all seen our drunk
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  uncle and like kind of what you know, how many Christmases he
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  screwed up, right? Maybe you?
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  Weren't 2121 years sober right here?
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  Nice job, dude. Yeah, yeah.
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  So I mean, you, you get it, right?
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  Alcohol is terrible and everyone knows it and on this exact and
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  you know, if you look at it even from like not even just like a
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  personal health situation, but even just from like a macro
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  economy scale, you go like, well, how many billions of
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  dollars are lost because of hangovers?
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  How many people screw up their entire lives and careers over
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  this stuff? It's super harmful.
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  Kava in that exact same study was a two, it was a 2 out of
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  100. So you know, if you if you talk
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  about like, Oh well, Kava does this or does that, but I can
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  almost guarantee you it's far more benign than any other
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  substance that you're putting into your body.
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  I guarantee you that soda that you drank yesterday that's worse
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  for you than Kava is, well, you. Brought like you can't.
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  Really. You know, you brought up my
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  number one argument, Morgan. No, you're fine.
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  I interrupted you. But it's important that people
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  know on every corner you can buy enough alcohol every minute of
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  every day to kill yourself. Yep.
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  Yes, and it will, right you. The hell.
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  You got 20 bucks you could buy black car heroin.
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  In marijuana. In marijuana to kill yourself,
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  you can't do it right. There's been 0 deaths from
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  people overdosing on marijuana unless they jumped off a bridge.
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  Right, looking for that bag of Cheetos that fell out of their
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  car while they were driving, right?
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  That's the only reason they're jumping off a bridge, right?
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  So. That's a very important point
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  for you to bring up is that you know this is a 2 out of 100
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  scale. And and by the way, Kava is not
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  physically addictive. It has 0 tolerance issues.
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  So you could take it every single day for two years, not
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  have it the next day and you won't care.
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  It would be on the par with eating lettuce every day, right?
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  You're not going to get addicted.
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  To lettuce, it's, it's it, it does not create dependence right
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  now, obviously anything can, can be habitual, right?
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  You could drink Cava every single day because you like the
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  effects and you like how it makes you feel.
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  But that is very different from a physical withdrawal effect
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  that you could get from most other substances out there.
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  And the second thing that you brought up, Mike, is that there
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  is you, you cannot overdose on Cava.
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  You cannot do that. So you know, I, I just think of
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  it from like a harm perspective, man.
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  It is better for you than basically anything out there.
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  OK, now talk to me about the applications, right?
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  We've we've discussed that it's, you know, I'm glad that Chris
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  brought that up because it's important for people to know
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  it's not dangerous, right? Marijuana is not dangerous.
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  It's important to know drugs that are dangerous versus drugs
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  that aren't. And you really, I'm starting to
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  think you don't call this a drug.
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  It's a plan, right? Marijuana is a plan.
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  I, I don't really like when they lump them into the drug
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  category. So if I'm going to use it for my
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  anxiety or maybe I'm going through a rough patch where, you
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  know, things are changing, where my routine is upended, how do I
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  apply this in my life now? Because I'm learning right along
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  with everybody else. I don't really know a lot about
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  it. I think it's awesome.
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  Yeah, and, and just to touch on your first point really quick
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  here too, Cava is considered a food and it's also considered a
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  dietary supplement. It's the same way in which you
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  look at coffee as a food and you look at coffee extract as a
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  supplement. It's the same thing.
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  It's the exact same thing, right?
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  And so it's not a drug. It's just like you said, it's
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  not a drug, it's food. And so I think that's pretty
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  important. Personally, I like to drink it
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  at night. So cava is a sedative.
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  It is going to relax you. It is all cavas are sedative.
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  There's a hundred different varieties of them that are noble
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  cavas, which are basically cavas that you can drink every single
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  day. And of those, right, you know,
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  there's there's a spectrum. It's kind of like marijuana in
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  that some are going to be more sedative than others and some
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  are going to be more euphoric than others.
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  If you look at a map and you look at where cava originated
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  it, it originated in Vanuatu. And in Vanuatu, it's an
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  archipelago a couple 100 miles West of Fiji.
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  And it started out as a wild plant and it was a canoe plant.
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  And as they put in their canoes and they went on to other
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  islands to the east, it changed and morphed as it hit different
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  types of ecosystems. Really.
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  And because of that, you have different varieties of it.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And it's an invention of the South Pacific people.
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  It's something that without those people, you would not have
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  comma today. It does not reproduce on its
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  own. It has to have people to to do
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  this. Interesting.
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  Yeah. And so I, I bring that up
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  because, you know, when you talk about like something that you
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  want to, or like kind of daily sort of rituals or how you could
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  apply it in your own life. In Vanuatu, they like to drink
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  it at 4:00 or 5:00 at night. They drink it for an hour or
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  two, very strong, concentrated, you know, coconut shells, right,
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  shells worth of, of cobba. And then they have dinner and
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  they go to sleep in Fiji or Tonga, they'll drink it all
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  night long. And because it's more diluted
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  and the varieties are far more, you know, just they're just not
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  as intensely sedative. OK.
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  So would you say the first example is more introspective
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  and the second example is more social?
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  Absolutely I right, I like what you did the.
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  People in Fiji are using it as well.
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  I, you know, it's not a mystery that I've smoked my fair share
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  of marijuana. I've used it for both, right?
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  I use it for being introspective when I sit down to write music.
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  But I also like in a social setting with my friends, you
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  know? Yeah.
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  World. Events or whatever.
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  I like to hang out with a bunch of Tongans here in Phoenix and
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  the Tongans, they will legit like, I'm not even kidding here
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  when I say I showed up to a place at like 6:00 at night and
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  and I left at 3:00 in the morning and they were still
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  going hard at about a 10 at about, yeah, I think it was 10
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  in the morning. I, I texted my buddy and I said,
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  hey, man, last night was a lot of fun, you know, so good to see
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  you. He text me a picture back.
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  They're still there hanging out drinking Kava together.
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  They're like, yeah, we're going to make some fry bread in a
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  couple minutes here, right? So like, they just love to drink
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  it, you know, for a long time with their friends, right?
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  Like, OK, so, so, so, so, so not only does it has a calming
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  effect, but like, so now I'm intrigued now because like if
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  I'm drinking something, you know, from 6:00 in the morning
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  or 6 at night until like, you know, like you said, the next
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  morning, is it kind of just it's, is it more like a like,
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  like you kind of referenced A chamomile tea earlier.
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  So it's just kind of like that you're just kind of slowly
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  sipping tea for six hours and just kind of hanging out,
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  socializing, kind of just natural, like chill vibe.
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  But not, you're not high, you're not, you know, stoned, you're
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  not drunk. It's just, I mean, you know.
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  You're definitely feeling it right.
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  Common is euphoric. It does cause definite feelings
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  of just very chill relaxation, right?
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  And you're definitely going to be more socially, you know, sort
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  of less socially anxious. And, and so you definitely feel
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  it in, in your head. And actually, that's the thing
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  that kind of sold me on Cava originally when I was going to,
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  I was going through all my, you know, issues 12 years ago.
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  I I went through like 10 or 12 different sort of substances to
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  try to see what worked best for me.
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  I tried CBD, right? I remember, yeah, when people
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  used to kind of sell CBD, they would, I feel like, I feel like
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  Cava is what people thought CBD was 10 or 12 years ago, right?
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  You know how people are like, Oh yeah, I took CBDI, didn't feel
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  anything. I don't really care about.
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  I never. Tried, I tried, I tried a little
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  bit and I didn't tell anything. I just thought, well, this is
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  dumb. I.
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  Don't think it works for some people.
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  Yeah, somebody gave me some CBD bomb and I'm like.
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  I don't. I actually have friends who, and
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  I'm guilty of this a little bit myself, where edibles just don't
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  work. You know, you hear horror
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  stories about people who take edibles and they get pinned to
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  the couch for 8 hours, right? You can't move anything but
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  their eyes. So I've had it.
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  Taken. Terrible.
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  I can't see. There you go.
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  Now I could take 300 milligrams and drive to McDonald's to get a
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  hamburger and come home and, you know, nothing I don't have.
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  And I think part of it's, you know, I've experienced so many
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  times, but I, I don't think when that chemical reaction takes
• 18:06
  place, it is the same for everyone, right?
• 18:09
  Because I actually have friends who have taken 1000 milligrams
• 18:12
  and felt nothing. I'm not going to be that guy.
• 18:16
  I can't relate to that at all. Sure.
• 18:18
  Yeah, I can't either. I think that's more.
• 18:20
  Grams and I'm on the. Floor dude, I'm kind of
• 18:22
  reinforcing where you were going with you have to through trial
• 18:27
  and error with some of these things, no differently than your
• 18:30
  doctor does when he's prescribing benzos.
• 18:33
  That's very important for people to know.
• 18:35
  That guy has orgal has no idea how you're going to react to
• 18:40
  those. They don't.
• 18:41
  Yep. 100% it's the price. They just do a lot of
• 18:43
  psychotropics, right? They do a lot of psychotropics
• 18:45
  like they're M&M's. Let's try this one, this one,
• 18:48
  and this one and see if it works.
• 18:49
  If that doesn't work, we're going to take, but it's super
• 18:51
  slow. That doses all of a sudden,
• 18:52
  right? That you experience different,
• 18:56
  you know, like there's indicos, there's sativos, there's
• 18:58
  different strains and levels of edibles.
• 19:01
  You have to start out with, you know, little samples of
• 19:04
  different ones, which is what you were talking about doing
• 19:07
  with the carpet. You know if one thing doesn't
• 19:09
  work for you, try the other. Yeah, I always tell people when
• 19:13
  they want to try Kava for the first time, there's a couple of
• 19:16
  basic rules. I would say the first is I
• 19:18
  always try traditional Kava, right?
• 19:20
  There's a ton of different types of products out there, like
• 19:22
  different formats, right? You'd have like traditional
• 19:24
  kavas, you'd have instant kavas, you have Kava extract products.
• 19:28
  I'd say go for the real deal traditional thing, invite some
• 19:31
  friends over, experience it together and do it on an empty
• 19:35
  stomach And you know, you're going to have a great time.
• 19:38
  At least, you know, hanging out with your friends, drinking some
• 19:40
  muddy water and talking about how crazy the feelings are.
• 19:44
  But the, you know, and I also say, I think that you can't just
• 19:48
  try one type of Kava and think that you know what Kava is.
• 19:54
  So many people I've talked to go, oh, well, I had Kava from
• 19:57
  Vanuatu and, and then I go, OK, well, did you try Kava from
• 20:00
  Tonga? Because it's going to feel
• 20:02
  completely different. It's going to taste completely
• 20:03
  different. And Vanuatu cava is they're much
• 20:05
  more like they taste like. A pine cone.
• 20:07
  They're very Piney. They're very bitter.
• 20:09
  Cava in Tongan means bitter. And the more like, the closer it
• 20:15
  is to the wild cavas back in the day before they domesticated
• 20:19
  cava, it is much more bitter. It's much more Piney.
• 20:22
  And the further E you go, the much more they become much more
• 20:26
  sort of mellow in their flavor and they're just not as intense.
• 20:30
  And so certain people just don't like different types of cava
• 20:34
  because of either the flavor or the smell or the OR the effects,
• 20:39
  right? So you got to try different
• 20:40
  types in order to see which one might fit.
• 20:42
  You so so would it be good for someone to start with something
• 20:44
  that's has has kind of I don't want to say potency per SE, but
• 20:47
  it's kind of a lower, lower potency.
• 20:49
  Just if, if, if this is like I've never drank cava in my
• 20:52
  life. I don't I don't drink alcohol.
• 20:54
  I don't take either. I don't do any kinds of
• 20:56
  painkillers and stuff like that because I'm an alcoholic.
• 20:58
  So my system is very just benign.
• 21:01
  Like the first time I had a fake beer after being sober for five
• 21:04
  years, my brain was like, what the hell is this?
• 21:05
  My tongue's like, oh, beer. My brain didn't understand.
• 21:09
  And it really it was, it was, it was a struggle.
• 21:11
  And so it took me about a. Year to really figure.
• 21:13
  Out OK, I can handle fake beer as long as I have this mindset.
• 21:18
  If I don't, I don't have a fake beer because I want a beer.
• 21:21
  I have a fake beer because it's a fleeting thought while I'm
• 21:23
  grilling. Oh, it'd be cool to have a beer
• 21:24
  right now. Oh that's right, I got heine
• 21:26
  conceito in the fridge right. So for someone like me who has 0
• 21:29
  tolerance to anything and everything, because I don't, I
• 21:32
  really I'm I drink 1 cup of coffee every morning with hint
• 21:35
  milk and then the rest of my day is water and iced tea for the
• 21:39
  most part. I do throw in, you know, juices,
• 21:40
  apple or not apple juice, but orange juice and grape juice and
• 21:43
  watermelon juice, that type of stuff.
• 21:45
  But I'm very clean eating. So if I was to go to Tonga Cava,
• 21:48
  I would just kind of thinking that would just sit me on my ass
• 21:52
  and I'm going to see, you know, rainbows and unicorns with, you
• 21:56
  know, people falling out of the walls.
• 21:58
  Is that accurate? Should I go with a little bit
• 22:00
  more mellow beginning kind of diluted over, you know, from
• 22:03
  Tonga to like Arizona, like find an Arizona version?
• 22:08
  Yeah, well, I I would answer that like this.
• 22:11
  You know, earlier we were talking about how coffee is a
• 22:13
  food, Cavo is a food, right? OK, when you go buy coffee, what
• 22:18
  are your like? What?
• 22:21
  How do you determine which type of coffee to buy?
• 22:24
  We stumbled across this, I forget what it's called now.
• 22:28
  Mike introduced me to this one brand.
• 22:30
  We liked that, and then we couldn't find that one day, so
• 22:32
  we found this one that had a pirate ship on it.
• 22:34
  It's a salted caramel and we've stuck with that ever since.
• 22:36
  That sounds good too. You know what's interesting is
• 22:39
  that you never mentioned the caffeine content.
• 22:43
  No, because I could care less about the caffeine content.
• 22:45
  Like I don't drink sodas at all. So like he's.
• 22:47
  Proving your point. He's oh, oh, oh.
• 22:50
  He's making his point for you. Yeah, no.
• 22:53
  So what I'm saying is that no, no, no, I mean, but that's
• 22:56
  exactly my, my point is that I don't look at cava as, oh, this
• 23:01
  needs to be a certain strength or something.
• 23:03
  If you have a cup of coffee in the morning and for some reason
• 23:06
  it just doesn't hit, or maybe you just had an early morning,
• 23:08
  you need another one. You just go have a second cup of
• 23:11
  coffee. It's the exact same thing with
• 23:13
  Kava. And the reason earlier I was
• 23:15
  talking about shells, like coconut shells.
• 23:18
  We literally talk about a shell as like a serving of Kava,
• 23:21
  right? And so when I prepare Kava for
• 23:24
  myself, I will prepare 456, maybe 7 shells of, of Kava,
• 23:31
  which is like 6 to 8 ounces of the actual prepared beverage.
• 23:35
  And then I'll just have as many shells of Kava as I want.
• 23:39
  I, you know, and you space it out every 10-15 minutes and that
• 23:43
  way you can kind of get to the point where you want to be and
• 23:46
  you don't have to go higher than that.
• 23:47
  Or if you just want one, that's fine too.
• 23:50
  It's just you can control it, is what I'm saying.
• 23:54
  It's not like an edible where you take it and then you're just
• 23:56
  on the ceiling. Seen purple elephants flying?
• 24:00
  I wish. It's also one other thing I'll
• 24:03
  say is that like, I feel like a lot of people, they try to
• 24:06
  replace Kava with other things, right?
• 24:08
  And they try to say like, Oh well, I'm going to replace
• 24:10
  alcohol with Kava or I'm going to replace we with Kava.
• 24:14
  Kava is so much more subtle and so much more just mellow.
• 24:19
  It is, it is not something that's super intense, but I
• 24:22
  think that that to me that's a selling point because yeah, I
• 24:26
  don't want to be there. I like, I look, I got kids, man.
• 24:29
  I, I got, I got a wife who needs me to operate, you know, so I
• 24:32
  gotta, I gotta do things. And so to me, I don't want
• 24:35
  something super intense, but I. Think of this more as meditation
• 24:39
  than. You know, it's a great.
• 24:42
  Anybody, anybody. Well, I'm thinking that Chris is
• 24:46
  thinking in the direction that I was thinking at first because
• 24:49
  we've experienced addiction, right?
• 24:51
  So your mind instantly goes to Oh my God, I don't want it to be
• 24:57
  like this, right? Yeah, I had that same reaction
• 25:01
  at 1st and my mind was going there too.
• 25:03
  So anybody that's listening to this that was a former addict
• 25:06
  would think the same thing. So I like how you described it
• 25:09
  as standing in the aisle of the grocery store and deciding
• 25:12
  between, you know, my mother likes to drink tea everyday.
• 25:15
  So she picks her tea, right? It's the same concept.
• 25:19
  She would just pick her strain of cava.
• 25:22
  You know, you can think of strains of tea and coffee as the
• 25:26
  same thing. Or what brand of milk do you
• 25:28
  buy? Skim milk?
• 25:29
  Whole milk, you know right? It's.
• 25:31
  Well, yeah, yeah. OK.
• 25:33
  So it's kind of like the best. So it's kind of like the best
• 25:36
  part of waking up is Folgers in your cup.
• 25:39
  Yeah, except this is the antique coffee.
• 25:41
  So it's like the best part of going, the best part of chilling
• 25:45
  out is. You need a Jingle.
• 25:50
  You need a Jingle, Morgan. You need a Jingle, man.
• 25:53
  You know that to you? Yeah, like good to the last
• 25:55
  drop. Maxwell House, right?
• 25:58
  You need something going off into the Netherlands sleep
• 26:02
  right? So here's a question.
• 26:03
  So, so I, you know, do you drink in Kava, get up in the morning
• 26:07
  like you drink it at night, like you said.
• 26:08
  So you, you have your, you have your Kava at night and you need
• 26:11
  to run to the store. You're completely fine running
• 26:13
  to the store driving, no issues. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I think on
• 26:18
  our bags it says not to operate heavy machinery.
• 26:21
  Personally, hasn't been a huge issue for me.
• 26:24
  You know, I'm not telling people to go do that, but it's not
• 26:26
  something that's going to be like, you know, super intense.
• 26:29
  Yeah. Now is it?
• 26:30
  Is it, is there an age demographic for it?
• 26:33
  Like nobody under 18, nobody under 10, nobody under 5, You
• 26:36
  know, what's that? No, it's like I said, it's it's
• 26:39
  a food. I, you know, I mean, I, I have
• 26:42
  given it to my son, right? I've got a, a bunch of buddies
• 26:45
  who are Polynesians and, you know, their teenage sons will
• 26:48
  walk in and say, hey, come have a Shalakava with me and they'll
• 26:51
  have, you know, one or two of them.
• 26:53
  Actually, that's kind of an interesting topic because that's
• 26:57
  why I asked, you know, yeah, I, I gave it to my son when he was
• 27:02
  going through some. I mean, I won't go through
• 27:04
  exactly what happened, but you didn't have to go through this.
• 27:06
  It was, it was pretty traumatic experience for him.
• 27:09
  And we were not at home and I could not take him to a doctor.
• 27:12
  And I needed something to help him relax because it just was.
• 27:16
  It was a bad situation. It was bad, OK.
• 27:18
  And it helped and it, it definitely helped.
• 27:20
  Now, is it something that I would say you should have your
• 27:23
  kids drink? No, I think that you should go
• 27:25
  to your doctor and see if they're OK with it.
• 27:28
  But you know, it's and it's also, I mean, if you look at old
• 27:30
  Hawaiian stories, so Hawaiian ABBA has a lot of interesting
• 27:34
  historical background. There's a variety of Hawaiian
• 27:37
  ABBA. Now they call it ABBA, not not
• 27:39
  Kava called Nene. And Nene is, it was historically
• 27:44
  used for teething babies or fussy babies.
• 27:49
  So the Kava root itself, it has inside of it something called
• 27:53
  kavane, which is if you think of when you go to the dentist, you
• 27:57
  have novocaine and it numbs your mouth.
• 27:59
  The Coveain has similar properties.
• 28:02
  It'll numb your mouth, it'll numb your throat.
• 28:04
  And so when you chew on the root, it'll numb the gums.
• 28:08
  Interesting. So if you're a teething baby,
• 28:10
  that would help your gums, right?
• 28:12
  So historically, it's been used for kids.
• 28:14
  Yes, I think it's important for people to know too that a lot of
• 28:17
  these cultures, they didn't abuse these things.
• 28:20
  They used them for what they were intended for, right.
• 28:22
  So if you go to Europe, you're going to find a bunch of kids
• 28:26
  who drink and you're going to be like, holy crap, they're
• 28:28
  drinking wine at lunch or beer at dinner.
• 28:31
  That's the only time they do that.
• 28:34
  And it's maybe right once in a while, right It they don't look
• 28:37
  something that oh, wow, this tasted good.
• 28:40
  So I'm going to do it every day. That's just right.
• 28:43
  It's yeah. It's like how Germany drinks
• 28:45
  warm beer, where Americans drink cold beer.
• 28:48
  Like, you know, if you're Germany, you're you're, you're
• 28:51
  straight up drinking room temperature beer because that's
• 28:54
  how they drink it. So weird, right?
• 28:57
  Really weird. Wouldn't even imagine it.
• 29:00
  But that, but that goes back to what Mike just said.
• 29:02
  So the cultures, I mean, before Western medicine, you had all
• 29:05
  these cultures all over the world doing home homeopathic
• 29:09
  remedies for all different kinds of things.
• 29:12
  And a lot of that was based on the roots and plants and what
• 29:15
  you found in the jungles, in the forest and all that kind of
• 29:17
  shit. Right.
• 29:18
  And it's amazing when you use it, what the way it was intended
• 29:22
  it actually, you know, you're like, wow, it works if I don't
• 29:24
  do it from 7:00 in the morning until 11:00 at night, right?
• 29:29
  Which is I've went through those periods in my life where if one
• 29:32
  is good, 100 must be better. So, yeah, yeah, when you start
• 29:36
  using these plants, these food products, these whatever, you
• 29:42
  know, magic mushrooms even, there's things that if they're
• 29:46
  used the way that they were intended in nature, they're
• 29:50
  going to be beneficial to the human.
• 29:52
  And that's what I'm hearing the longer that you're explaining
• 29:55
  this to us, right? Here's how you use it
• 29:57
  effectively, and here's what it will do for you if done
• 30:00
  effectively. Yeah.
• 30:02
  Yeah, exactly. And I don't know, like I feel
• 30:05
  like I've met so many people who use Cava for different reasons,
• 30:10
  right. So some people, you know, I know
• 30:12
  people that drink it while they're at work and they just
• 30:15
  want to kind of just tone down the, the, the stress levels at
• 30:18
  work. Personally, I'm not really a guy
• 30:22
  that you know, does that When I when I drink Cava, I'm like, I
• 30:25
  want to just like chill out and and I'm not going to be working.
• 30:32
  Yeah, so I got your site up again.
• 30:33
  So this is the the Kona Kava basic starter kit.
• 30:37
  So this. Is actually a different company.
• 30:38
  This is not my company. My company is called no, it's
• 30:41
  all good. It's my company is called calm
• 30:42
  with Kava. Okay, yeah.
• 30:45
  Well Dang it, I gotta get to your website then I'm.
• 30:47
  Sorry, it's all good. Yeah, it's it's calm with crap
• 30:49
  with kava.com now it's calm. With a calm, with a.
• 30:53
  Calm. No, I, you know, actually Calm
• 30:55
  with Cava was started by a different guy who was my buddy
• 30:57
  named Mike. And Mike started the company in
• 31:00
  2009 when he went on a honeymoon with his wife Tiffany to Fiji.
• 31:05
  And he drank cava for the first time and he fell in love with it
• 31:10
  and he started importing his own cava because he couldn't find
• 31:13
  any good cavas. He passed away in 2020 and he
• 31:17
  was a good friend of mine. Wow, this is.
• 31:19
  Your and it's, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it was, it was very
• 31:23
  difficult. But one thing that has always,
• 31:25
  you know, kind of struck me that he said he he said it all the
• 31:28
  time was the phrase, you know, rising tides raise all ships,
• 31:32
  right? And I think that that's the same
• 31:35
  kind of thing. The cava industry is so small
• 31:37
  that I feel like if, if anyone loves Cava, they're going to be
• 31:39
  trying my cavas, they're going to be trying other people's
• 31:41
  cavas. And so I'm, I'm not, you know,
• 31:44
  it's. I know, but I don't.
• 31:45
  I didn't mean, I didn't mean to unintentionally share somebody
• 31:48
  else's website because that's not what we do.
• 31:50
  And you did say that earlier on, but it didn't, it didn't
• 31:53
  register with me because I haven't drank my cava today,
• 31:55
  Morgan. And he just threw a bottle 10
• 31:59
  years worth of information at us in 20 minutes.
• 32:02
  Yeah, my bad, dude. No, no, no.
• 32:04
  You're good. No, that's why you're.
• 32:05
  Here, man, I mean that in a good way.
• 32:06
  I just learned a whole bunch in a very short amount.
• 32:09
  I love that. That didn't mean that in a bad
• 32:11
  way at all. Man, no, not at all.
• 32:14
  I had no idea what this was before you started talking.
• 32:16
  Sorry. Yeah, so, so I have the side up.
• 32:18
  So there's the different kinds of types you have listed on your
• 32:20
  site is micronized instant, medium, medium grind, instant
• 32:24
  Cava extract products, cava seltzers and bundles.
• 32:28
  So I'm assuming the medium grind is kind of like like coffee
• 32:32
  grounds? Or is it something that you it's
• 32:34
  a fine powder? Yeah, that's actually like the
• 32:36
  perfect way to describe it. Medium grind cava is the
• 32:39
  traditional way of doing it. So they take the cava roots and
• 32:43
  they pull them out of the ground, they wash them off and
• 32:46
  then they dehydrate them. And then we grind them up right
• 32:50
  into some sort of a rough powder.
• 32:52
  And you take that rough powder and like you can see at the
• 32:54
  bottom there, there's where there's the sample pack, there's
• 32:56
  strainers, right? So you take that strainer, you
• 32:59
  kind of strain it out almost like a tea, right.
• 33:01
  So the FDA actually considers Kava to be a tea.
• 33:05
  Oh, OK. And so that's the yeah.
• 33:08
  So that's, that's the traditional way of doing it,
• 33:10
  micronized or instant varieties. You can just mix it right into
• 33:12
  your cup and go. And then we have the those
• 33:15
  concentrates there that are like, you know, they're Kava
• 33:17
  extract products that are mixed with juices and things like
• 33:20
  that. But the extract products are not
• 33:22
  as like intense that, you know, it's interesting that we we
• 33:26
  brought up edible so early on because Kava has a strange thing
• 33:30
  where most things when you do an extract of it, you know, it
• 33:34
  becomes stronger. Kava is not the same.
• 33:36
  Yeah. Kava extract products, you do
• 33:38
  not feel the full effects of Kava.
• 33:40
  Yeah, wow. I don't know why, but you get
• 33:43
  about 60 to 70% there. You don't get that.
• 33:45
  Extra 30%? That is strange because you're
• 33:48
  right, your liver usually with THC, it changes in to 11 hydroxy
• 33:54
  metabolite, right, which is 4 to five times more psychoactive
• 33:58
  than THC, which is why you freak out.
• 34:01
  You know if you haven't dealt with those things that are in
• 34:04
  the files in the back of your mind that you don't know where
• 34:06
  there you're going to real quick.
• 34:09
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's a little bit different,
• 34:12
  but you know, that's just kind of the, the way, the way it
• 34:16
  goes. So all of these cavas though,
• 34:18
  you know, they're, they're all a little bit different and they're
• 34:21
  all kind of, you know, some are, like I said earlier, some are
• 34:24
  more sedative, some are more euphoric.
• 34:27
  And then we've yeah, those private reserve ones.
• 34:28
  Those are like the really fancy ones.
• 34:29
  So sometimes. Well, that's why I clicked on
• 34:31
  it, Morgan, because it like, oh, private reserve.
• 34:33
  It's kind of like the private Jack when I was drinking, you
• 34:36
  know? Oh, I got to get the best Jack.
• 34:37
  Oh yeah, you got to have that. Right.
• 34:39
  Yeah, yeah. And so there it's a very like
• 34:42
  different sort of thing because it's, they're, they're types of
• 34:47
  cavas that are kind of small batch, right?
• 34:49
  So if you think of any sort of farmed product, the vast
• 34:52
  majority of the time you're talking about farms that are
• 34:55
  huge, right? If you think about buying
• 34:56
  potatoes, these potato farms are thousands of acres.
• 35:00
  Cava is completely different. It's mainly farmed by small
• 35:04
  holder, you know, farmers that have 10 or 15 plants in their
• 35:08
  backyard and then they use it like a savings account.
• 35:11
  So whenever they want to buy, because they don't really use
• 35:14
  money in, in these areas of Polynesia all that much.
• 35:17
  They use money to pay for their kids schooling, maybe for
• 35:20
  tuition or for school uniforms or they'll sell it for or
• 35:25
  they'll, they'll, they'll sell their cava for like building
• 35:28
  materials. Other than that, they plant
• 35:29
  everything that they've got, you know, and that this is Dahonu,
• 35:33
  by the way, this is a great company that we've partnered
• 35:35
  with. We don't currently have it in
• 35:36
  stock, but. I saw that they're all sold out.
• 35:38
  Got it. Yeah.
• 35:39
  Yeah, at the Dahonu website they've got some, but I just
• 35:42
  don't have any personally. OK, that's OK, Warehouse.
• 35:44
  Right now, But yeah, so it's, it's a they, they basically have
• 35:50
  10 or 15 plants. Whenever they want to sell one,
• 35:52
  they'll sell it to someone who's who's going around collecting
• 35:54
  Kava. So there's not really any large
• 35:57
  scale farms of Kava. OK.
• 36:01
  That's crazy. We also have our own farm on the
• 36:03
  Big Island of Hawaii which which is very excited.
• 36:08
  Yeah, I, I, yeah, Either either Becky told me that or you told
• 36:10
  me that in the, in the original contact with the fact that you
• 36:14
  do have a farm in Hawaii. So that's kind of cool, man.
• 36:22
  Yeah, it actually started. So Mike, the guy we're talking
• 36:25
  about earlier who started calm with Kaba, he had about 100
• 36:27
  plants in Hawaii. And when he passed away, we, we
• 36:32
  bought his land and bought some more land.
• 36:35
  And that way now from his 100 plants that he had, we now have
• 36:39
  15,000 plants. Wow.
• 36:42
  What he planted. Yeah, so we're, we're, you know,
• 36:46
  I mean, I, I feel like we're kind of doing, you know, we're
• 36:48
  kind of living out Mike's vision and trying.
• 36:51
  To do you have a picture of this anywhere, Morgan what that.
• 36:53
  Looked like of the farm, yeah. So if you go to.
• 36:56
  See that? Yeah, of course, of course, if
• 36:59
  you go to Instagram or you could go to the website as well, but.
• 37:04
  I'm on the website now this this this website.
• 37:07
  Or a different one? No, the the farm has its own
• 37:11
  website, but the Instagram might be the better kind of way to
• 37:14
  kind of see what's going on right now.
• 37:17
  It's called puiva, which is PUIWA.
• 37:23
  So in Hawaiian, WS are pronounced as AV.
• 37:26
  OK P UW, IA. PUIWA, are you on Instagram
• 37:34
  right now? I am.
• 37:35
  I have not shared it because I want to make sure I pull it up
• 37:37
  first. Yeah.
• 37:37
  It's Puiva Farms Hawaii is the handle.
• 37:41
  PUIWA Farms. Hawaii.
• 37:48
  Farms Hawaii. There it is.
• 37:52
  OK, I'm going to follow it and then I'm going to find a good
• 37:58
  picture and then I'll share it. Yeah, so there's 13 varieties of
• 38:02
  Hawaiian ABBA and they're all quite nice.
• 38:05
  And if you think about it from like a genetic standpoint, you
• 38:08
  know, these guys, they were putting cava in their canoes and
• 38:13
  travelling across the ocean hoping to find land, right?
• 38:16
  And it is what that tells you is that they probably took the very
• 38:21
  best that they had, they had, they took their best medicines,
• 38:23
  they took their best foods, they took their best everything.
• 38:26
  And so eventually you got these varieties of, of Kava that
• 38:29
  literally went through 2 to 3000 years of, of human, you know,
• 38:35
  intervention to, to get the very best plants.
• 38:39
  So. So is this a Kava plant that's
• 38:41
  on the screen right now? Super, super great.
• 38:43
  So is this a Kava? Plant MM Hmm.
• 38:45
  Yep, and that's why I wanted you to pull it up.
• 38:47
  They're. Yeah, they're big.
• 38:48
  Man. They're really big.
• 38:50
  And where can this grow? Yeah, upwards of visual.
• 38:55
  Yeah. So they get upwards of 10 to 12
• 38:56
  feet tall, and it grows pretty much only throughout Micronesia
• 39:01
  and Polynesia and parts of Micronesia as well, so all
• 39:04
  throughout the South Pacific. Generally between like 60. 5 and
• 39:08
  85°. So we're not so you and I live
• 39:11
  in the Arizona, so I'm not pop. I'm not putting this because I
• 39:14
  live on an acre. So I'm not taking the section of
• 39:15
  my acre off and growing Kava plants.
• 39:18
  I think you'd have a hard time. Yeah, OK.
• 39:21
  It. Requires a lot of humidity, a
• 39:23
  lot of lot of water. And I was thinking side hustle,
• 39:27
  you know, hey Mike, I got hey Morgan, I got some Kava for you.
• 39:29
  Little dry, yeah. But the other?
• 39:31
  Thing is kind of cool. Makes it difficult, yeah.
• 39:34
  This, this, sorry to interrupt me, but this is kind of cool.
• 39:36
  And this little reel is kind of showing you how you go from from
• 39:38
  plant to to to liquid. So there's the seeds, right?
• 39:43
  That's when you're planting it, starting it.
• 39:45
  Yep, Yep. So those are cuttings that we
• 39:47
  took. OK.
• 39:48
  So that's the growth. Yep.
• 39:51
  And then there's the roots, which is where it comes from,
• 39:53
  right? Mm hmm.
• 39:56
  So that's a few years from that little seed to what?
• 40:00
  The tall plant. Yes, it takes it.
• 40:03
  Wow, wow. About three years to make Cava.
• 40:06
  Wow, you generally, you really ideally want five years, but
• 40:09
  yeah. So $7079 a bag is is not bad for
• 40:14
  the amount of time that you invest to make this product.
• 40:17
  It's not. Well, I mean, most of them are
• 40:20
  about 60 to 65 a bag. But but yeah, I mean, if you
• 40:25
  think about what went into that, it's a it's actually kind of OK
• 40:30
  to be to be super frank, right? Like I didn't realize what I was
• 40:33
  getting into when I started to farm Like it, it turns out it's
• 40:38
  like the dumbest thing to farm. I could have easily bought some
• 40:42
  land and started buying like, you know, planting flowers and.
• 40:47
  Corn. Yeah, literally just plant
• 40:51
  anything else and you'll probably make more.
• 40:53
  Yeah. That's funny.
• 40:55
  But I really like Kava, so I'm just gonna stick with Kava.
• 40:58
  Well, that's cool, man. Well, and you gotta, you gotta
• 41:00
  start somewhere. Obviously.
• 41:01
  Yeah, you gotta start somewhere. Yeah, it's, it's a passion
• 41:05
  project, you know, I mean, I, I think it's something that like
• 41:08
  deserves a lot of respect and, and I really appreciate the
• 41:11
  people. That have been well that's
• 41:12
  that's why you're here man 3. 1000 years and yeah.
• 41:15
  Yeah, but that's why you're here because it's you reached out and
• 41:17
  we were intrigued by it. And you know, this is
• 41:19
  fascinating. It's absolutely fascinating that
• 41:21
  again, it's just a root. It's it's a plant based root
• 41:24
  people. It's nothing that is going to
• 41:26
  make you addictive. You're not going to like lose
• 41:28
  your job and your wife and your family and your house live on
• 41:31
  the streets and you know, the van in the river van.
• 41:34
  What is that? Live in a van down by the river.
• 41:37
  This is just going to help you function.
• 41:39
  If you need something to help you function and you don't want
• 41:41
  to get shove, you know, psychotropics down your throat
• 41:44
  because that's what Western medicine starts with.
• 41:47
  Oh, let's medicate, medicate, medicate.
• 41:49
  Instead of like hey, let's find a homeopathic solution to see if
• 41:52
  that works first. Or even better yet, let's talk
• 41:56
  about what you're going through. They don't even start there
• 41:59
  anymore, no. Yeah, I, I think that like, to
• 42:03
  me, I mean, I, I really, you know, early on I, I mentioned
• 42:07
  how I specifically don't really want to talk about medical
• 42:09
  claims just because of FDA things.
• 42:11
  But I also legitimately think that like when I go through a
• 42:14
  stressful period of my life, I always go to the thing that
• 42:18
  like, you know, I, I go for a walk, right?
• 42:21
  I go talk to my wife. I go play video games with my
• 42:23
  son, right? Like I do all of these other
• 42:26
  things to be healthy, right? Mentally healthy, right?
• 42:30
  And so I think that that when you, when the first instinct is
• 42:34
  to reach for a substance, that's a problem, right?
• 42:37
  Agreed. And you need to identify, you
• 42:39
  know, the root of the issue, right?
• 42:41
  And so to me, when I drink my Kava, when I'm preparing that
• 42:44
  Kava, it takes me 5 minutes, right?
• 42:46
  And I take that 5 minutes, the house is quiet and the kids are
• 42:49
  asleep and my wife is watching some terrible TV show that I
• 42:53
  don't want to watch. And I get to have 5 minutes to
• 42:55
  myself, right? And that's the time where I can
• 42:58
  kind of meditate and really think about what's going on.
• 43:01
  And that is almost as important as the Kava itself to me.
• 43:05
  You know, all of those other things.
• 43:07
  Cava is just a piece of the puzzle in my Wellness sort of
• 43:11
  routine. Right.
• 43:12
  And and see, do you hit right there Wellness because a lot of
• 43:15
  the stuff that Mike and I started this show based about
• 43:18
  around recovery and music, because that's what we that's
• 43:20
  what we know. We've known each other since
• 43:21
  9293. We both had our struggles with
• 43:26
  with addiction. So the the foundation of this
• 43:29
  really was just music and recovery.
• 43:30
  And and we had this stupid clip 11 show where we were talking,
• 43:34
  We had a guest that flaked on us and we were talking about if one
• 43:37
  of the guests or show you, you know, it may be a guest as long
• 43:40
  as they're living and breathing on a zombie.
• 43:41
  And that, believe it or not, that sparked this crazy amount
• 43:44
  of people want to come on a show because like, oh, these guys are
• 43:46
  fun and they're funny and they're not.
• 43:48
  It's a conversation. If you haven't realized that
• 43:50
  it's not an interview because interviews are boring.
• 43:52
  But when when you talk about the Wellness, that's, that's the
• 43:56
  root of everything. I think that that we as a side
• 43:59
  need to get back to everything just is about being well and
• 44:01
  taking care of yourself. We have one body, we have one
• 44:03
  soul, we have one vessel. That's it.
• 44:06
  We're on borrowed time. We're all terminally ill.
• 44:08
  So if you can live your life better by attaching yourself to
• 44:13
  this route called cava and help you get through some struggles
• 44:15
  and anxiety and stress or whatever the case may be, relax,
• 44:18
  sleep better at night because it helps you sleep better at night,
• 44:20
  does it not? Again, I can't really make that
• 44:23
  claim, but I can say that I like to drink it at 10:00 at night.
• 44:27
  And it helps you, but it helps you personally.
• 44:28
  Does it help you sleep better at night?
• 44:31
  It it helps me kind of wind down for sure.
• 44:34
  I I have a big problem with like personally when AI definitely
• 44:38
  have an issue with sleeping right.
• 44:40
  Like when I hit the pillow my mind is going 1000 miles an
• 44:43
  hour. Me too.
• 44:44
  I need something to we. All have that in common for
• 44:46
  sure. Right.
• 44:48
  And so it definitely helps me kind of stop those thoughts from
• 44:50
  going crazy. OK, Yeah, yeah.
• 44:53
  And and again, we're not, we're not saying that Kaba is the end
• 44:56
  all to everything out there. We just want people to
• 44:59
  understand Kava is not as bad as as some of the things that
• 45:02
  people think it may because again, when my wife googled it,
• 45:04
  oh, it's habit forming. Is this that she's like, you're
• 45:06
  never drinking this, but. So that was the first, I guess.
• 45:09
  We never even went down that road we'd got.
• 45:12
  We squirreled for 40 some minutes away from that.
• 45:15
  That's important. What did Nikki find when she.
• 45:17
  Googled that. I would love to choose that too.
• 45:19
  I wish she was here. I know, I know she's she's a
• 45:22
  teacher. So she's you know, I'll find
• 45:24
  out. I'll find out what she actually
• 45:25
  Googled and I'll share it with you because I have your
• 45:27
  information now. But she just she, she, she just,
• 45:30
  she saw bad, bad. Like right away, that's what
• 45:33
  starts. To come out that's what she saw
• 45:35
  so that to be honest with you Morgan pique my interest even
• 45:38
  more because I knew you would have an answer to that because I
• 45:42
  don't think any human unless your last name is Escobar
• 45:45
  willingly step into a a fundamental project to spread to
• 45:51
  the world if it's not beneficial on some level white Pablo just
• 45:54
  wanted to get the the cocaine out there you know and that was
• 45:59
  purely money based greed based power based, but cava learning
• 46:02
  from you in just this short time.
• 46:04
  It's not it's not habit for me it's not addictive.
• 46:07
  You can stop it tomorrow after drinking it for two years and
• 46:10
  have no physical side effects whatsoever.
• 46:12
  Well, it's a food, just like. It's a food.
• 46:14
  It's been, it's been consumed for thousands and thousands and
• 46:18
  thousands and thousands of years.
• 46:20
  We've learned it originated in in not, not Congo.
• 46:23
  What was it? At Vanuatu or.
• 46:27
  You know. Fiji.
• 46:28
  Tonga, Samoa. Right, Tonga, that's what.
• 46:31
  So yeah, it's it's it's, it's something that's used by tribes
• 46:36
  through centuries. So it's like him.
• 46:38
  It's. Been one last thing I think is
• 46:41
  very important is that, you know, people say all sorts of
• 46:45
  things about the FDA and they say all sorts of things about
• 46:48
  the World Health Organization. You may or may not disagree with
• 46:51
  them. I'm not here to, to, you know,
• 46:54
  decide whether or not they're the, they're the greatest
• 46:56
  organizations or not. I can tell you this, the World
• 47:00
  Health Organization is something that the FDA has been a member
• 47:03
  of for many years, right? They recently left, but in the
• 47:08
  past, right, the World Health Organization back in 2007, they
• 47:11
  did a very in depth study and they wanted to see, you know,
• 47:14
  one of the first things you'll see is that Kava causes liver
• 47:16
  damage. And the World Health
• 47:19
  Organization did a study in 2007 and they found that that likely
• 47:23
  all of the cases of liver damage a happened in Germany from one
• 47:26
  company making one pharmaceutical product stored
• 47:29
  from one farm in Vanuatu. There was an extract product one
• 47:33
  of them. That's it, that's it.
• 47:35
  Those levels of liver issues have never been seen before,
• 47:38
  never been seen outside of Germany, never been seen outside
• 47:42
  of that one product. So the World Health Organization
• 47:45
  2007 showed that that product was to blame, likely because of
• 47:49
  contamination. And or like Co intra.
• 47:55
  What's the word I'm looking for? Basically, when you're using.
• 47:57
  Yeah, combing with other substances, right.
• 48:00
  So think of Germany. We just talked about a lot of
• 48:03
  warm beer. Right.
• 48:04
  Yeah, So you're. Telling me that a bunch of
• 48:05
  Germans are drinking something and it's causing liver damage.
• 48:08
  I wonder what it was. You know what else will damage
• 48:10
  your liver if you take it every day?
• 48:12
  Ibuprofen. Ibuprofen adviled, right?
• 48:16
  So 2016 the World Health Organization submitted a
• 48:21
  proposal to make Kava a food worldwide, and indeed they did.
• 48:25
  They ratified that in 2020. The World Health Organization
• 48:29
  says that there's very, very little risk for liver damage.
• 48:32
  The National Institute of Health said that there's a less than
• 48:35
  one in a million chances of liver damage from taking Kava.
• 48:39
  You know that's a that's a government sponsored thing too.
• 48:42
  Less than a million, right Sir? In in in every certain how many
• 48:45
  that's. Why I bring my example up
• 48:46
  because my example is a certified drug that will damage
• 48:51
  your liver that nobody talks about.
• 48:53
  And the first thing that we're finding when we Google something
• 48:57
  that won't damage your liver is that it will, right?
• 48:59
  There's just so much disinformation out there because
• 49:03
  you have so many lobbyists in Washington for the
• 49:06
  pharmaceutical companies who were saying, hey, we have to
• 49:09
  sell X amount of ibuprofen and Advil and all these other drugs
• 49:13
  or we're not going to be solvent and we can't do research and
• 49:16
  development. And your hospitals and everybody
• 49:19
  are going to suffer because of it, right?
• 49:20
  There's all these threats that if we don't make money year over
• 49:23
  year, our health is going to decline, and actually our health
• 49:26
  is declining because of that. Well, and check and check this
• 49:29
  out, Nick and I met, met a couple recently that that they,
• 49:33
  they lived in South Africa the most of their life, six years in
• 49:35
  Jamaica and then they moved to Arizona I think 3 years ago.
• 49:39
  They were never sick in South Africa or Jamaica like they have
• 49:43
  been since coming to Arizona and living in the United States.
• 49:47
  And it's all because in both countries it's farm to fresh
• 49:49
  food. It's farm to table food.
• 49:51
  You get the the fish come straight from the ocean.
• 49:52
  It's you. You maybe have a a day length of
• 49:55
  time. Nothing's processed.
• 49:57
  Bread gets moldy there in three days opposed to 12.
• 50:00
  They don't have just dyes and all.
• 50:02
  Right, They don't have all the bullshit that America does.
• 50:04
  So it's it's even more interesting that the World
• 50:08
  Health is is behind Cava. And how long would it take
• 50:11
  America to get behind something that's that's natural and it's
• 50:15
  grown naturally and it's not processed like we've talked
• 50:19
  about Mike and I forever when we're growing up, you know,
• 50:22
  Frosted Flakes was a balanced part of your diet.
• 50:24
  In what way? In what way is Frosted Flakes
• 50:27
  balancing your diet, Man, It's 99% sugar, right?
• 50:31
  But that's how we were growing. That's how we were conditioned.
• 50:33
  That's what we grew up watching. Because at some point in time,
• 50:37
  the lobbyists decided, hey, we got to inflate this to get it
• 50:40
  out to the public. You know our grandparents, I
• 50:43
  mean, least mine on my father's side, like kids.
• 50:46
  You not a carton of cigarettes a week, probably 2 or 3/5 of
• 50:50
  whiskey a week. Ate bacon and eggs every single
• 50:52
  day of their lives. Both of them probably had two or
• 50:55
  three bypass services but lived until they were in their 80s or
• 50:57
  90s. But they grew up on unprocessed
• 51:00
  foods. But.
• 51:01
  They grew during their generations Is when they started
• 51:04
  blaming that generation for eating bacon and eggs and heart
• 51:08
  disease. They didn't take into account
• 51:10
  what Chris just said. They drank 1/5 of whiskey a
• 51:13
  week, right? And they smoked a carton of
• 51:14
  cigarettes, right? Yeah.
• 51:16
  Was it those two things that caused the heart disease or was
• 51:19
  it the bacon and eggs? Exactly.
• 51:20
  We now know that it was the whiskey and the smoking for
• 51:23
  sure. Right, right, 'cause you can
• 51:25
  take the frame off the wall and see the white paint behind the
• 51:28
  yellow ring of smoke. Look at all the morons that ate
• 51:31
  egg white omelettes for all those years.
• 51:33
  It's like the egg white. It really has about 0
• 51:36
  nutritional value. Yeah, but the yolk has every
• 51:40
  amino acid needed to rebuild the brain cells that you need, right
• 51:45
  To continue to function. I get Alzheimer's.
• 51:48
  Exactly, I2 to three eggs a day and I'm still sitting here live
• 51:51
  and kicking to my cholesterol level as normal so.
• 51:53
  I just think these points are so important to reinforce what he's
• 51:58
  saying. This is a food.
• 52:00
  It's not going to hurt you. It may not work for everybody.
• 52:02
  That's why I'm always careful to say this is what works for me,
• 52:06
  right? You can try it, it may not work
• 52:09
  for you. There's things that didn't work
• 52:11
  for me that are going to work for other people.
• 52:14
  Well, that's why I asked Morgan the question.
• 52:16
  Like, I know I don't want you to get out there on the podium, say
• 52:18
  this works like this, but that's why some of my questions were
• 52:21
  specifically related to just you for your personal use of it.
• 52:24
  A pen because. People like us, like all three
• 52:26
  of us, our brains don't shut off.
• 52:28
  They don't shut off. I go to bed, there's songs on my
• 52:31
  head and I'm like, shut the fuck up.
• 52:32
  Yeah, I just, I have to meditate before I go to sleep, like 10
• 52:36
  minutes just to just to shut my mind off.
• 52:38
  You know, it's like I'm undiagnosed ADHD, but I'm never
• 52:42
  going to go on medication for it because it's just not who I am.
• 52:45
  It's just you just got to deal with it.
• 52:46
  You learn how to cope. You learn how to deal.
• 52:48
  When someone asked me how I can play a guitar, I say that's
• 52:51
  always going on in here. So I imagine being in my head,
• 52:54
  right? I can play it because I hear it.
• 52:56
  It's like a movie playing in my head that I can regurgitate out
• 53:00
  into the universe. But it's always there, you know?
• 53:02
  Yeah, it's there in your subconscious for recall.
• 53:06
  Just like his lyrics and his melodies are there for him.
• 53:09
  He can sing all those songs in his head without the music.
• 53:13
  That's why I can't. It's a tough.
• 53:16
  Place to be sometimes. I mean, I, I, I like to play, I,
• 53:19
  I play the guitar, I play the piano, I play, I play drums a
• 53:22
  little bit, or at least I'm trying to learn.
• 53:24
  And so I'm, I'm kind of into that.
• 53:25
  But you know what I never have quite figured out in my entire
• 53:28
  life. I remember when I was younger,
• 53:30
  my, my parents would get on me sometimes for listening to some
• 53:32
  music that apparently had some racy lyrics and they're like,
• 53:35
  Oh, you're, and I was like, I don't even, I'm not even hearing
• 53:38
  what you're hearing. And I.
• 53:40
  Was like my mother. I don't.
• 53:42
  I don't even remember what the lyrics are.
• 53:45
  And by the way, I cannot recite a lyric, it is not going to
• 53:48
  happen. So it's wild to me that people
• 53:50
  can do that. I don't know what's wrong with
• 53:51
  my brain, but I like the music part.
• 53:53
  But the lyrics, I don't remember them.
• 53:55
  Not going to happen. How?
• 53:56
  How old are you? I'm 38.
• 54:00
  OK, cool. Just so because I'm 56, Mike's
• 54:03
  50. 52. 52 Yeah, so I wanted because the music thing arrived.
• 54:09
  Shouldn't trust us? That's what we always said when
• 54:11
  we were your age. Don't trust anybody over 50.
• 54:13
  Right when I was a kid. Man, just have to.
• 54:15
  Think about how old I was. So I mean, maybe.
• 54:18
  No, that's okay. When I was a kid, man, when you
• 54:20
  when you hit 40, they had the over the hill parties.
• 54:22
  When you hit when you hit 55, man, people moved to the adult
• 54:25
  communities and by 65 they were dead.
• 54:27
  And it's like like 55 now is like 35, like I told her to
• 54:32
  remember. Being 25, looking at somebody
• 54:34
  that was 50 thinking fuck you're almost dead.
• 54:36
  Yeah, and because the way they looked, just the way that it's,
• 54:40
  it's amazing to me that there's still some people that I see
• 54:43
  that, yeah, they look 59. But it's just how they live
• 54:46
  their life. It's it's, it's how you live.
• 54:48
  It's how you treat your your one vessel that you have from cradle
• 54:52
  to the grave. This is what you got.
• 54:53
  So it's it's how do you? Guys feel like you are.
• 54:57
  I, I, it depends. It depends.
• 54:59
  I, I can, I'm going to say probably more, more in the 40s.
• 55:05
  I people are shocked when they find out I have a six year old
• 55:08
  grandson and a three-year old grandson.
• 55:10
  I would agree with him, you know, and simply because when I
• 55:13
  was, well, when I was four years younger than you, I was in the
• 55:17
  throes of my addiction and I was almost dead.
• 55:20
  So by the time I got to be where you're at now, I had been sober
• 55:26
  for about a year and a half. So I progressively started
• 55:29
  feeling better. So I agree with Chris, it
• 55:31
  depends on the day. Because you're going to have
• 55:33
  your joints are what tell you all the time that you're getting
• 55:37
  older, right? But mentally and physically, I
• 55:42
  feel better now than I did when I was 35, for sure, yeah.
• 55:46
  Like when I was when I was 53, Morgan, I, my son's a Marine.
• 55:51
  So every now and then he'll shoot me something.
• 55:53
  And so when I was 53, he shot me a text, or maybe I was 52.
• 55:58
  He shot me a text, say, hey, dad, I ran a 6 minute mile and
• 55:59
  I'm like, I'm coming for you. OK, old man.
• 56:02
  So when I was 53, I, I, I work at an orange Theory fitness year
• 56:06
  in Arizona. So you probably heard of that.
• 56:07
  Yeah. So I used to do Monday,
• 56:10
  Wednesday, Friday. I do back-to-back classes.
• 56:12
  I'd be at one studio and then go from one studio to the other.
• 56:14
  While going to that studio, I'd I'd hydrate, protein drink and
• 56:17
  eat some, you know, protein, homemade protein balls.
• 56:21
  My wife would make me. So I hit 5 minutes, 55 seconds
• 56:25
  in studio 1 and then an hour later I hit 5 minute 55 seconds
• 56:28
  in studio two. At 53 years old, I can run a
• 56:31
  half marathon an hour and 48 minutes.
• 56:33
  I can hold a plank for 9 1/2 minutes.
• 56:35
  None of this shit could I do when I was 30.
• 56:38
  I can't do that. What's I'm saying, so it's, and
• 56:41
  I'm not saying that the bragging vote, I'm just saying it's,
• 56:43
  it's, it's number one is because my son pushed me because I was
• 56:46
  going to catch him. So he held, he held a 3 minute
• 56:48
  plank. I'm on.
• 56:49
  I'm not going to get you son. And I just kept going until I
• 56:52
  couldn't hold it anymore. And then my best I could do was
• 56:53
  9 minutes, 34 seconds because then I just had to fall down.
• 56:57
  But that's it. But that goes to the answer to
• 56:59
  your questions. Like how do you feel?
• 57:01
  Well, it depends on the day because the days that I would
• 57:04
  work out before I broke my foot, I was doing 8 workouts a day
• 57:07
  with Orangetheory and another 10 workouts during the week because
• 57:09
  I was doing 75 hard. I did 75 hard twice.
• 57:13
  The second time is when I realized I broke my foot and
• 57:15
  that maybe just focus on upper body for eight months, which was
• 57:19
  great, which has helped me hold the plank for as long as I did.
• 57:22
  But I spend Thursdays, I live on an acre, so I spend Thursdays
• 57:26
  doing my yard and every Friday morning I wake up man is fuck me
• 57:30
  because it's I, I have grass. So I have AI have a tractor, I
• 57:34
  have weed whacking. I have to take grass to the
• 57:37
  dumpster, you know what I mean? So it's constant movement for 2
• 57:39
  1/2 three hours. So of course, regardless if
• 57:43
  you're 30 or 55, your, your, your body's going to be sore
• 57:47
  after that. I've learned to turn it into a
• 57:49
  workout, which people think I'm nuts walking across my yard with
• 57:52
  the bands of grass like this, you know, but it's, you know,
• 57:56
  it's one of those things that it keeps you young because it keeps
• 57:59
  you active. You keep constantly moving and
• 58:01
  then you know it's, but there are days when I wake up like I'm
• 58:04
  not getting up, I'm going to sleep in.
• 58:06
  I'm going to stay in bed for an hour.
• 58:08
  I think the key for most people, and I've heard it from everybody
• 58:12
  who said what Chris just said, that you have to be active to
• 58:17
  stay young. But the most important part of
• 58:20
  that 100% is stretching. The reason that people start to
• 58:24
  get hunched over and they shuffle their feet is because
• 58:28
  they got up and they sat in a chair and then they walk to sit
• 58:32
  in another chair and then they walk to lay on the couch and
• 58:34
  then they walk to get in the shower, to sit down, to put
• 58:37
  their makeup on or whatever. You don't realize that you are
• 58:40
  sitting so much, right? That's the one thing that I'm
• 58:43
  lucky at my job. I walk like 4 miles a day, every
• 58:46
  day. So you're going to burn more
• 58:49
  calories walking than doing anything.
• 58:52
  But you have to stretch. That's the first thing I do when
• 58:54
  I get up in the morning. Yeah, it's it's interesting that
• 58:58
  you guys bring this up. I, I don't know when you guys
• 59:00
  started to become super fitness guys or if you guys have always
• 59:03
  done. I'm not I, just I.
• 59:04
  Started when I when I stopped drinking.
• 59:06
  Believe it or not, my my addiction turned to working out
• 59:10
  because I I when I stopped drinking, I was 200, two, 134
• 59:13
  lbs, six feet. I was bloated, alcohol bloated
• 59:19
  and my wife and I kind of went through a thing.
• 59:21
  So I just, I, I, I needed something.
• 59:23
  So I've talked about it before on the show that addicts have to
• 59:26
  chase something. We need something to go after,
• 59:29
  right? You're, you're a heroin addict.
• 59:31
  You're chasing that. My, I had some family member who
• 59:33
  was, who was struggling with heroin towards the end of their
• 59:36
  addiction. They were chasing the needle
• 59:38
  piercing their skin. It wasn't the high, it was is
• 59:41
  this needle going to kill me? Which Which, if you think about
• 59:44
  it from an attic standpoint, we're chasing something.
• 59:47
  We're chasing the result of something.
• 59:49
  You're chasing the first time, every time.
• 59:51
  Right. So when I stopped drinking, I
• 59:53
  had to replace that with something.
• 59:54
  So I just, I walked, I drove past the gym.
• 59:57
  I'm like, oh, I'm going to go work out now.
• 59:58
  I'm going to go back doing that. And that's what it did.
• 1:00:00
  That's what all of a sudden hyper focus from no drinking to
• 1:00:03
  working out. And that's just been constant
• 1:00:05
  since. Because you really is, Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  It really is as simple as that. You're chasing the first time
• 1:00:11
  every time, Yeah. You need.
• 1:00:13
  You need that. That's the most euphoric your
• 1:00:16
  brains ever felt, and it will never feel that way again,
• 1:00:19
  right? You can't ever, can't ever
• 1:00:21
  experience. It's like the first time you had
• 1:00:23
  sex. It's just that much less
• 1:00:29
  adventurous the next time. And the next time you know you
• 1:00:32
  have. Wait, you guys are having sex?
• 1:00:36
  No, I'm just equating that. I'm just equating that to
• 1:00:38
  addiction. No, but it's but this that's the
• 1:00:41
  but that's what I'm that's kind of my point.
• 1:00:43
  We the dopamine right? When you when I I never get
• 1:00:46
  runner's high, which sucks, but when I when I hit those miles
• 1:00:49
  under 6 minutes back-to-back, I was I was the first time I was
• 1:00:52
  like, holy shit, like I was emotional.
• 1:00:54
  I'm like, I can't believe I did that.
• 1:00:55
  I started at 740 mile down to 555.
• 1:00:58
  And it's a reward. It was, it was like, and I and
• 1:01:01
  part of it was like, you know, I got my son.
• 1:01:03
  I beat him and I rubbed it in his face, man, Like I'd rubbed
• 1:01:06
  it in his face. Do you think that you could rub
• 1:01:09
  in his face? Do you think you could take your
• 1:01:10
  son in a fight? No, my son's a Marine.
• 1:01:13
  He's a black belt martial artist.
• 1:01:15
  There's no way. There's no way My son would kick
• 1:01:17
  my ass. He would kick my ass.
• 1:01:19
  I literally just, I literally just heard Joe Rogan and I
• 1:01:22
  laughed my ass off. There was a comedian sitting
• 1:01:25
  across from him and Eric Griffin and Eric Griffin said this jiu
• 1:01:28
  jitsu stuff says explain this to me.
• 1:01:31
  Practically. And Joe said you want me to
• 1:01:33
  explain it to you? Practically, if you and I were
• 1:01:36
  in a fight, I would kill you. That was the end of the state.
• 1:01:40
  Practical. And Eric said, no, I mean, like,
• 1:01:44
  you know, in real life, if we were going to tussle and Joe's,
• 1:01:47
  like, I would kill you, I would grab you by the neck and I would
• 1:01:51
  just keep squeezing until your brain didn't function anymore.
• 1:01:55
  And then he got the point. It's like, yeah, you know, we
• 1:01:58
  are not the same. I am a black belt in jiu jitsu
• 1:02:01
  and you are not. I will kill you.
• 1:02:04
  Yeah. Right.
• 1:02:05
  And the reason I. Asked.
• 1:02:06
  Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah, Go ahead. Go.
• 1:02:08
  No go. Ahead the the reason that I
• 1:02:09
  asked is because I, I started doing weight training about a
• 1:02:12
  year and a half ago and I felt really great sense and you know,
• 1:02:17
  I feel like it's been you know, I don't know why I'd never
• 1:02:21
  really did it before. You know, I feel like I'm, it's,
• 1:02:25
  it's strange to start, I suppose, this old doing that,
• 1:02:28
  but it's been very helpful. And my whole life I've always
• 1:02:32
  thought, you know, my dad worked out all the time and he, he
• 1:02:35
  could take me all the time, right.
• 1:02:37
  And it was only up until he had his heart attack about six
• 1:02:39
  months ago, where I, you know, he's a lie now think of thank
• 1:02:43
  goodness, but only now do I feel like I could actually take my
• 1:02:46
  dad, which is why I asked you, do you think you could take your
• 1:02:50
  son still? You know, but I was never a
• 1:02:52
  Marine. So that's, it's the very big
• 1:02:53
  difference between son and me. Well.
• 1:02:57
  Even but yeah, yeah, my son's a bad ass.
• 1:03:00
  But yeah, I just, I've, I'm trained and I went through a
• 1:03:04
  period where I went through an executive, executive protection
• 1:03:07
  training because I deal with, I deal with some people when I
• 1:03:09
  sell houses that there's, there could be Ndas sign, you know,
• 1:03:15
  and I got a bug in my ear from somebody I was working with.
• 1:03:17
  He said, oh, he should do this. So I, I could, I can, I could
• 1:03:20
  disarm somebody. If, if, you know, if I walked
• 1:03:22
  into a store or something, saw somebody that was, I could tell
• 1:03:25
  was having AI could easily disarm them, you know, and, and
• 1:03:28
  put them on the ground. But to, to, to fight a Marine,
• 1:03:32
  there's no fucking way anybody in the military.
• 1:03:34
  I would not. I mean, I look like I'm in the
• 1:03:38
  military. I get it all the time because
• 1:03:40
  the way I look and I'm just I thank people when they think I'm
• 1:03:42
  in the military because I'm just I'm a military family.
• 1:03:45
  I couldn't get in. That's another long story.
• 1:03:47
  But yeah, my son would kick my ass if he chose to.
• 1:03:50
  I don't think he I don't think he could bring himself to to
• 1:03:53
  throw a punch at his old man. But we have a really good.
• 1:03:56
  I don't see that happening. You know, I don't either, you
• 1:03:58
  know, watch yourself. My daughter, on the other hand,
• 1:04:00
  my daughter, I when my daughter, my I've seen my daughter fight.
• 1:04:03
  She could fucking wail on anybody, man.
• 1:04:04
  She's she's just hard to go, but you piss her off, man.
• 1:04:09
  She'll go at you with a vengeance like you wouldn't
• 1:04:11
  believe, which is pretty cool. Pretty awesome in a nice way,
• 1:04:16
  right? Not psycho, but you know.
• 1:04:17
  No, that's a good quality for a woman to have is to be able to
• 1:04:20
  defend herself for sure. So we've run a little late.
• 1:04:23
  Morgan, I know you. You had your calendar till
• 1:04:24
  11:30, but I want to share your site one more time because I
• 1:04:28
  want people to go buy your stuff and and learn more about you
• 1:04:31
  because this is what we do. And you are welcome at any time
• 1:04:34
  you want to come back on the show.
• 1:04:35
  If, if something changes, if you have some new stuff going on, if
• 1:04:38
  you have some new lines you want to share, if you want to just
• 1:04:41
  update us on production things like that anytime.
• 1:04:44
  You're welcome, man. So it's calm with kava.com and
• 1:04:48
  that's the calm is with the K. This is the website, all the
• 1:04:53
  products like you got Shopkava up here.
• 1:04:54
  We talked about it, the different kinds of types.
• 1:04:56
  I hate when websites do that. You got all these different
• 1:04:59
  kinds of types of Kava. Definitely go through it.
• 1:05:01
  You got varieties. Mike and I have learned so much
• 1:05:04
  with you being on here right now.
• 1:05:05
  Which. I'm going to do a ton more
• 1:05:06
  research now too. This has been awesome man.
• 1:05:08
  There's your Kava gummies. We we kind of talked about the
• 1:05:11
  Kava gummies, but we didn't circle back to because ADHD.
• 1:05:15
  But there's your Kava gummies. Yeah, well, and and if you guys
• 1:05:18
  ever want to drop by, I know Chris, you're here in I can drop
• 1:05:21
  by Mike. 'S normally OK, well in the
• 1:05:24
  middle of the. Porn field.
• 1:05:25
  It'd be a long trip, Mike, but you're invited as well.
• 1:05:28
  If you ever want to kind of come by and check out the facility
• 1:05:31
  here where we import all of the cover roots and grind it up.
• 1:05:33
  I'd I'd love to show you around. I would love to do that, Morgan,
• 1:05:36
  because then I can make, if it's cool, if I'm allowed to, I can
• 1:05:38
  make a little video and stuff and I can actually put it on our
• 1:05:40
  page that. Would be awesome and bring your
• 1:05:43
  wife. Yeah, Yeah, I will.
• 1:05:46
  And help people understand, you know, the benefits of Kava as
• 1:05:49
  opposed to the and I don't know how much it's bad.
• 1:05:52
  I just know what she originally researched.
• 1:05:54
  And that's again that made me wanted to have you on even more
• 1:05:57
  so just to kind of talk about it and the benefits of it.
• 1:06:00
  Because again, Wellness should be a movement in America at
• 1:06:04
  least, because we are the fattest country in the world.
• 1:06:07
  And that's all because of what we're putting in our body from
• 1:06:09
  processing. You watch the show with Apache
• 1:06:12
  Joe. We've had nutritionalist on the
• 1:06:14
  show that I've talked about so many things when it comes to
• 1:06:17
  health and taking care of your bodies.
• 1:06:20
  I think this is is right up there with that.
• 1:06:22
  It's something that's root based.
• 1:06:24
  It's been used for centuries and it's, you know, it's something
• 1:06:28
  that may help you get through some struggles you're having
• 1:06:30
  with as opposed to going to a doctor and taking psychotropic
• 1:06:33
  medications. We're not saying advocating for
• 1:06:36
  that. We're just saying, you know?
• 1:06:38
  It's an option. It's an option.
• 1:06:41
  It's a it's a homeopathic option, which is cool.
• 1:06:43
  So calm with calvin.com, that's with Kay's.
• 1:06:47
  We wrap the show up like this every single time, which I think
• 1:06:50
  you'll appreciate. Morgan, if you're feeling
• 1:06:52
  suicidal or depressed, don't do it.
• 1:06:53
  Go scream in a pillow. Go journal, go work out, go
• 1:06:56
  outside or run. Find somebody to talk to you.
• 1:06:58
  If you cannot find someone to talk to you, text 988.
• 1:07:01
  Somebody is there ready and willing to help you get talked
• 1:07:04
  off that ledge, talked off that Cliff.
• 1:07:06
  Don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart because you don't
• 1:07:08
  wake up tomorrow because tomorrow, believe it or not,
• 1:07:10
  will be a better day with you in it for the Kristen Mike show.
• 1:07:12
  I'm Chris. He's Mike.
• 1:07:13
  This is Morgan Smith of calm with kava.com.
• 1:07:16
  That's calm with AK kava.com. Check him out, try his products.
• 1:07:20
  He's got a sample one in there that's pretty legit.
• 1:07:22
  I'm going to grab that and just, you know, we're going to tell
• 1:07:24
  Nikki, hey babe, we're going to try this and see what she says
• 1:07:27
  for the Kristen Mike show. Everybody have a great day.
• 1:07:30
  Love you, brother. Thank you so much for your time.
• 1:07:33
  Thank you for your time. And we know that time is a
• 1:07:35
  valuable commodity. So we really, really, truly
• 1:07:37
  appreciate you coming on and sharing your story with us and
• 1:07:39
  your product. And I'm going to take you up.
• 1:07:40
  We're going to schedule time for me to come out.
• 1:07:42
  Check out your facility. Excellent.
• 1:07:44
  Awesome start to be here. Thanks so much.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah, don't leave yet. Once we sign off, we're going to
• 1:07:48
  make sure you're uploaded. See everybody, You got it.