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Doug Pederson focused on continuity & bold predictions from Pete Prisco | The O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit
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  Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Oser. All right, welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the Ozone Podcast from the twenty twenty three NFL Annual Meeting.
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  Speaker 1: And we were joined today by you know, every Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: fan Nosing. Not every Jaguars fan loves him, but he's
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  Speaker 1: here with us today, Pete Priscoe, CBS Sports. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. What do you mean they
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  Speaker 1: don't love me? What are you talking about? So I
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  Speaker 1: know you you listened to Doug Peterson yesterday. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 1: sort of our lead off today impressions. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: content with what he has and he has today. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: and I know the city isn't real thrilled about what
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  Speaker 1: they've done in the off season, but you've got to
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  Speaker 1: take into account growth and players are going to be better.
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  Speaker 1: Young players are gonna be better. Trevor Lawrence is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be better, Travis etm is gonna be better, the center
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  Speaker 1: is going to be better, Fortner's gonna be a much
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  Speaker 1: stronger kid. And on defensive side of the ball, you
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of you know, Lloyd's gonna be better walking,
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  Speaker 1: So you got to take into account growth when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about where the team's gonna go. And I know
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  Speaker 1: people want names and you'd like to get this guy
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  Speaker 1: and that guy, but look, they've done that. It worked
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  Speaker 1: last year, they got to the postseason, and now you
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  Speaker 1: got to start keeping your guys and making sure they
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  Speaker 1: get better. There's a lack of familiarity with that too.
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  Speaker 1: I think among Jaguars fans for years they've had to
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  Speaker 1: take the approach of chaotic free agency, go spend because
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  Speaker 1: they didn't have a core they could grow. So now
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  Speaker 1: it feels off, but they've never obviously never had maybe
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  Speaker 1: since the nineties. Trevor Lawrence, Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, guys
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  Speaker 1: who you know, to me everything about this team's ability
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  Speaker 1: to go from nine wins to a twelve thirteen win team.
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  Speaker 1: It's obviously about the quarterback, but it's about that continuity.
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  Speaker 1: I've been hitting on it all off season. So I'll
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  Speaker 1: let you how much can a team grow? Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 1: talked about it a lot, but that growth year two,
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  Speaker 1: year three or year one, year two in an offense?
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  Speaker 1: What can that mean? Have you seen an example of
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  Speaker 1: any recent pan sort of latch onto when you go
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  Speaker 1: from in year one. For example, if you're a rookie,
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  Speaker 1: you go to the combine, you do your stuff, you
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  Speaker 1: get ready for the combine. You're not really focusing on
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  Speaker 1: getting your body. You're getting combined body ready or arm ready.
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  Speaker 1: If there's a Trevor's situation. Then you get in there,
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  Speaker 1: your head spin and you're learning a new offense. You're
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  Speaker 1: head spinning, Install, install, Install, You get the camp and
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  Speaker 1: now you got live boats and still spinning. And so
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  Speaker 1: you get to the season and God bless Hibody had
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  Speaker 1: to deal with the embarrassment that was Urban Meyer and
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  Speaker 1: that was a disaster for him. And so now you
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  Speaker 1: flush that out. You're learning a whole new system, and
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  Speaker 1: you get a head coach in Doug Peterson who's great
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  Speaker 1: for the quarterback. And here now you play through the
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  Speaker 1: whole season, and it took you a while to get
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  Speaker 1: up to where you should be, and you saw it
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  Speaker 1: throughout the second half of the season. Now you come
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  Speaker 1: to the offseason. You know the offense, you know your
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  Speaker 1: head coach, you know your receivers, and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you go, oh, this is the way it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where Trevor larks Is and by the way, continuity.
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  Speaker 1: We look at the Chiefs because they've been one of
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  Speaker 1: the one of those teams that's around, stay around teams.
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  Speaker 1: Why the core guys, it starts with them. As long
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  Speaker 1: as you have the quarterback, that's the first and foremost.
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  Speaker 1: But you have Kelsey, you have Chris Jones. You don't
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  Speaker 1: need a ton of core guys. You just need some
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  Speaker 1: and the quarterback will make sure you are around for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, particularly in Jacksonville. How much I thought
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  Speaker 1: Doug's money quote and it wasn't you know one you
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  Speaker 1: put out on Twitter. It wasn't a headline grabber, but
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  Speaker 1: he said the heavy through his availability, we won't be
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  Speaker 1: installing the offense and defense. We're starting at a base
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  Speaker 1: and we're just basically taking what work and growing from there.
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  Speaker 1: That to me said everything. It's it's so much better
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  Speaker 1: for the players. I mean, all you gotta do. And
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  Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna tweak defense. I mean they
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  Speaker 1: haven't come out and quite said that yet, but I
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  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some tweaks on defense. They're hitting
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  Speaker 1: at it. They haven't said it, but you hear rumblings
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  Speaker 1: like maybe they're gonna do some different things on defense.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Trayvon Walker's gonna play more with his hand on
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  Speaker 1: the ground. I mean, that's provided you gotta find somebody
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  Speaker 1: who can rush the passer. But maybe they play, you know,
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  Speaker 1: more of a conventional four three in some situation. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna it's gonna change a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Now how that changes, who knows. There's I think they're
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  Speaker 1: still trying to figure it out. But for a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Devin Lloyd, and this was told to me, but
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  Speaker 1: he came out of college, they didn't have motion and
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  Speaker 1: pre snap all this stuff. And so he gets to
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, he misses most of camp right with the
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  Speaker 1: hamstring injury, gets to the games and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: his head's been in and you can see it on tape.
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  Speaker 1: Every every almost every player Luikhan's telling him were the
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  Speaker 1: line up. So he hurt Lukhan because he wasn't focused
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  Speaker 1: on what he was doing to get him lined up.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's gonna understand what he should be doing better,
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  Speaker 1: and that's important. That's growth. Somebody explained to me this
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  Speaker 1: way with Devin Lloyd and to degree with Chad Muma,
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  Speaker 1: that there was maybe a half step of hesitation because
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  Speaker 1: of what you're talking about, that flash of recognition. Play
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  Speaker 1: starts takes you just that long and then but you're
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  Speaker 1: a step behind the whole plot. Correct The difference in
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  Speaker 1: seeing it immediately and being a step behind, for those
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  Speaker 1: two guys can mean everything. And I assume Trevi and
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  Speaker 1: Walker a little different, but a little bit the same.
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  Speaker 1: That recognition that they will see they don't have to
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  Speaker 1: think as much. Next. Well, the linebackers, it's it's see go,
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  Speaker 1: see go, and those guys were c think go, and
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  Speaker 1: when you're see think go, you don't get there. And
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  Speaker 1: they missed tackles that way, and they had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of I mean, I'll give you a perfect example a
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  Speaker 1: guy who showed the growth we're talking about throughout the
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  Speaker 1: season last year, Andre Cisco. Earlier season, there were questions
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  Speaker 1: about him. I mean, let's be real. They thought he'd
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  Speaker 1: come in be a big time playmaker. There were questions
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  Speaker 1: about him. As the season went on, you could see
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  Speaker 1: him starting to get more confident in what he was
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  Speaker 1: doing and playing smarter and faster. And that's what you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get from a lot of these second year players
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  Speaker 1: this year. How much can this help Josh Allen Trayvon.
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  Speaker 1: I think the whole defensive front. It seemed to me
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  Speaker 1: in the last five six games for this team. They
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  Speaker 1: still weren't a great pass rushing team, but there was
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  Speaker 1: better significant pressure At times quarterbacks didn't feel as comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: My theory as that came because all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: they're in more they're in more games, they have more leads,
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  Speaker 1: and the defense is playing in more passing situations. How
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  Speaker 1: real is that and how much do you think that
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  Speaker 1: could help them? Because their turnovers went way up in
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  Speaker 1: those last five or six games too because the offense
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  Speaker 1: was playing well. Yeah, when you play with the league,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot easier rushed the passer. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's a simple, simple formula for any good team, but
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  Speaker 1: it's often forgotten, you know that intrinsically, and then people
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  Speaker 1: come out and criticize a pass rush that happened to
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  Speaker 1: play with all trailing the previous and you're right, the
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  Speaker 1: pass rush cup or what they don't and didn't do
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  Speaker 1: and still don't do and they need to figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: Is game on the line. My edge guy is gonna
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  Speaker 1: get there and win the game from me, sack, fumble,
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  Speaker 1: game over that has to happen. And so we you know,
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  Speaker 1: we look at Traymon Walker, that's not who he is.
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  Speaker 1: You look at Josh Allen, that's not who he is.
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  Speaker 1: They're good players, don't get me wrong. They're both good
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  Speaker 1: football players. But where's the dynamic edge guy? And somehow,
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  Speaker 1: some way they got to figure out to either make
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys become that dynamic edge guy, or
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  Speaker 1: find one in this draft and put him on the
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  Speaker 1: field and move Traymon Walker down and let him play inside.
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  Speaker 1: Because Traymon Walker could be a monster with his hand
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  Speaker 1: on the ground rushing the pastor, I think, and at
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  Speaker 1: some point you have to play him where he can
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  Speaker 1: be a monster. Just because you drafted him first overall
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  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you got to play him where you think
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  Speaker 1: you need to play him. And you saw it late
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  Speaker 1: in the season when he put his hand on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: he was a better player. If you put the tape
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  Speaker 1: on and he watched the plays, he was much better
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  Speaker 1: doing that. He looked more comfortable. He's a good player,
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  Speaker 1: but every move on the outside, he runs right into
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  Speaker 1: the smack dab in the middle of the offensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: There's no hands, there's no feet, there's no explosiveness up
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  Speaker 1: the field. But he's a great athlete, So why not
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  Speaker 1: take his great athletic ability and power and put him down?
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  Speaker 1: If he became Klaiss Campbell, would they be okay with that? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in case how long if he's lass. If
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  Speaker 1: Arizona had drafted Clais Campel number one overall in his draft, right,
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  Speaker 1: would it be looked at as a good draft pick? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, be looked at a great, great draft pick.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Trayvon Walker could be an all
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  Speaker 1: pro down defensive linement, I really do. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if he's ever going to be an all pro pass rusher.
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  Speaker 1: You talk to more people around the league than we do.
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  Speaker 1: Do you get any vibe or any sense of how
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  Speaker 1: much this how much the league believes this offense will
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  Speaker 1: be help by Calvin Ridley a lot, a lot. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, when you when you talk to people only
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  Speaker 1: you look at why they did that and how they
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  Speaker 1: did it. That's what I'm gonna give him credit. Because
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  Speaker 1: I criticized trumballay the past, I'm gonna give him dit
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  Speaker 1: for that. That's a great move. The free agency class
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  Speaker 1: year bad, the draft not great. So you get a
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  Speaker 1: guy like Calvin Ridley. If Calvin Ridley is Calvin Ridley,
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  Speaker 1: and I've heard nothing but good reports from me. He
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  Speaker 1: told me he was running twenty two and a half
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  Speaker 1: miles per hour on his speedy thing, which is incredible
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  Speaker 1: for a guy who hadn't played football in two years.
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  Speaker 1: And he's a good kid, by the way, in case
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  Speaker 1: anybody's thinking differently, he's a great kid. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna open up Kirk in the middle, and he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: open up more big plays for Zay Jones down the field.
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  Speaker 1: So you add that all up, this offense can be dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about he was a number one receiver the
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  Speaker 1: last year in Atlanta. He was that guy. So if
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  Speaker 1: you have a number one receiver and then you have
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  Speaker 1: Kirk as the two, and Zay is the three and
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  Speaker 1: Ingram as the as the tight end who can catch
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  Speaker 1: passes with etn who can come out of the backfield,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a special offense. They're gonna it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me to see them push what thirty twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine they improved from I think fourteen to twenty four
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  Speaker 1: last year, or push something like that, push thirty this year.
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  Speaker 1: And if you push thirty, you're talking about a lot
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  Speaker 1: of wins. Well, they're gonna win a lot of games,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna make this prediction already, they're gonna win
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  Speaker 1: a lot of games. The division's gonna be playing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of young quarterbacks, no matter who. Houston's gonna have one,
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  Speaker 1: Colts probably have one, and the Titans they have uncertain
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  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. You go to the NFC South,
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  Speaker 1: you play four games against them. You get Derek Carr,
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  Speaker 1: you know he gets a little glazed look at his
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  Speaker 1: face all the time. You get Baker Mayfield, a rookie
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  Speaker 1: in Carolina, and Desmond Ritter in Atlanta. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: win eight to nine of those games, then something's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So you win eight to nine of those, maybe split
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  Speaker 1: the rest of them, you're gonna be aybe. You might
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  Speaker 1: have a two seed, maybe a one seed. You're locking
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  Speaker 1: a two seed or one. Don't forget the Chiefs have
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  Speaker 1: in their division. They still have the Chargers right league wide,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer in a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: things that are being pushed for by you know, or
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  Speaker 1: it feels like people are pushing the Competent Committee to
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  Speaker 1: make roughing the passer our review. I think I think
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  Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. It'll be the same thing that past interference was.
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  Speaker 1: But something we talked about before we came on the air,
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  Speaker 1: the rugby style play. You, who are more tired in
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  Speaker 1: than I am, are hearing that that's not going to
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  Speaker 1: get change. Not even talking about it here now that's
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  Speaker 1: strange to me. Pete, I'm with you. I think it
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  Speaker 1: needs to be outlawed. I think it's a dangerous football play.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about it earlier back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: They outlawed it when they thought football was going by
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  Speaker 1: by the flying wedge in the nineteen o three. But
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  Speaker 1: here's what I think is interesting about them not outlying it.
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  Speaker 1: I could see them trying to stay away from it.
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  Speaker 1: If it was a fun, cool play, you follow me right,
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  Speaker 1: But it's a dud play. It's for it doesn't add excitement,
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  Speaker 1: and it's dangerous. It just seems to me like that
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  Speaker 1: would be huge motivation to get rid of it, because
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  Speaker 1: what's the point. And Dan Campbell at his thing was
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  Speaker 1: talking about they asked him about it, and he said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're fine with it. We're going to figure out a
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  Speaker 1: way to stop it. So what's the way to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get violence in the middle of that pile.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna throw the safeties at the center and try
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  Speaker 1: to push them back. It's gonna be a violent, nasty
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys are gonna get hurt in there.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not worth it. It's not worth the hassle
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  Speaker 1: of having a player go down with a serious injury.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you go back and look at
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  Speaker 1: scrumbs and rugby there, you know it's it's and they
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  Speaker 1: don't wear helmets, so it's different. But there's something bad
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  Speaker 1: is going to happen in there, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: my quarterback doing that all the time either, by the way, right,
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  Speaker 1: And that's where well, unfortunately, it sounds like it might
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  Speaker 1: take an injury to stop it, and it feels sort
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  Speaker 1: of unnecessary. But just like the onside kicks, it took
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the injuries, the band injuries, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how dating back to back and that Jacksonville had one
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  Speaker 1: of the worst injuries on an onside kick we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Thomas, it was the most disgusting. We were on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the field and at river Old
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  Speaker 1: Riverfront Stadium and we heard it crack like it was
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  Speaker 1: a batcracking. I mean, it was terrible answer twenty years
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  Speaker 1: to get that, and I always said, in fact, I
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  Speaker 1: remember doing this to remember I did a story on
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  Speaker 1: that was the most violent playing football was the onsite kick.
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  Speaker 1: That was way back when I was at the Times Union.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's terrible, it's it's you got to
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  Speaker 1: get this legislated out because I think we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a serious injury involved in it. What's the biggest trend
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  Speaker 1: other than what we've talked about that you're following, Meaning,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I get Lamar Jackson, I get Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like they're going to play themselves out.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously there's a couple of weeks. What's the biggest trend
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  Speaker 1: in the league that's you're following. What's sort of striking well?
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  Speaker 1: I think from a strategic standpoint, last year the big
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  Speaker 1: plays where everybody played off right, they played everybody played
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  Speaker 1: cover two or cover three and made you go to the
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  Speaker 1: the length of the field. And so how do you
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  Speaker 1: counter that? What's the counter? You know it's gonna counter,
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  Speaker 1: and you gotta run the ball better, right, And so
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  Speaker 1: if you run the ball better then the big player
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  Speaker 1: will come back because if you run the ball better,
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  Speaker 1: the safety obviously has to come down if you're grinding
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  Speaker 1: on them a little bit. Now I'm a pass first guy,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but at some point, if they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you the run, run it, and then they
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  Speaker 1: stop the run, then you chuck them over the top.
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  Speaker 1: Then you get the big plays off of that. It's
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  Speaker 1: never gonna be a run league. Again, it's like nobody's
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  Speaker 1: gonna end up being Tennessee. You don't want to be that.
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  Speaker 1: But if you can run it consistently to get that
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  Speaker 1: guy down and then you can throw over the top,
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  Speaker 1: then that's what you do. Who did the Jaguars Draft
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  Speaker 1: twenty four final question? I think as much as they'd
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  Speaker 1: like to get a pass rusher at some point in
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  Speaker 1: a corner, I wouldn't be it all shocked to see
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  Speaker 1: him take an offensive lineman. It feels like that's a
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  Speaker 1: sweet spot, and it feels like that's an area to me,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. It feels like that's an area
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  Speaker 1: where you can get value this year at that spot,
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  Speaker 1: build for the future. And I think if if you're
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  Speaker 1: Balky and Peterson, you can give yourself you can give
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  Speaker 1: yourself an example of, hey, did we regret having Walker
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  Speaker 1: a little around this past year? And that probably saved
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  Speaker 1: their season And it saved him a lot of money too,
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  Speaker 1: now when you look at it in the hindsight, because
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a starting offensive tackle and the guy
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  Speaker 1: that you had at right tackle just got twenty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year, so you didn't to pay that money.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you got a draft for the future. Oh Sirens, Torrence,
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  Speaker 1: he's your guy from Florida. Might be the best offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman in this draft. He is a massive man. He's
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  Speaker 1: I think he's six foot five three and forty pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Is a tough, physical guy. He played right guard at
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  Speaker 1: Florida in the If he came to the Jaguars, he
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  Speaker 1: would be the left guard and he would be playing
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  Speaker 1: next to Cam Robinson. You have a center who's going
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  Speaker 1: to be significantly bigger and stronger, Brandon Sheriff is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be healthy next year, and you're gonna have Walker Little
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna be bigger and stronger playing right tackle. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big, physical offensive line. You have that wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: in Ridley is gonna be one Kirk two, Za three
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  Speaker 1: Ingram that backs and Trevor's gonna be better. Go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and stop that offense. You're the belief that this team's
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  Speaker 1: going all offense. Stop us. We'll break some service on
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  Speaker 1: defense and see what would happened. That's what I would do.
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  Speaker 1: And I would try and find some sort of pass
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  Speaker 1: rush hybrid in like the second or third round, and
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  Speaker 1: a corner in the second or third round. So if
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  Speaker 1: I took if I took Torrence in the first round,
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  Speaker 1: then I come back and I get myself a nice
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  Speaker 1: corner who can play more man. By the way, guy
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  Speaker 1: is capable of doing that because when they signed Jack Griffin,
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't play any man. We know that. And then
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  Speaker 1: and then get a pass rusher where maybe you can
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  Speaker 1: move Walker in. And I'll give you an example. The
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  Speaker 1: Lions drafted a Kid Houston last year from Jackson State.
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  Speaker 1: He went to Florida as an off the ball linebacker,
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  Speaker 1: didn't play a lot of Florida. Then he goes to
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  Speaker 1: Jackson State, becomes a little rush guy. They pick him
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  Speaker 1: the sixth round. Well, now they have Hutchinson playing end
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  Speaker 1: and they have him playing strong side linebacker. When they
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  Speaker 1: go to the passing downs, they put one on one side,
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  Speaker 1: one or the other and they rush the passer. And
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  Speaker 1: so you got to find a guy like that. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, against the Jaguars, I think he had
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  Speaker 1: three sacks in that game, Houston. So you got to
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  Speaker 1: be able to rush the passer. You have to be
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  Speaker 1: able to They have to get a pass rusher at
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  Speaker 1: some point in this draft. I don't necessarily think there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one where they picked right there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Will McDonald, Nolan Smith, those kind of guys. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the kind of guys they're gonna make you.
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  Speaker 1: So you got to hope you hit him one of those.
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  Speaker 1: Robert mathis what round did he come in? Fifth? That's
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  Speaker 1: what you gotta hope you get one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: The final one he Frisco. I've been talking footballways for years.
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  Speaker 1: I could do it all day. I appreciate you joining
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  Speaker 1: the Ozon and podcast. We'll talk since we got it.