Latest / Simply Bitcoin / BREAKING: Michael Saylor Reveals That EVERY MAJOR Bank is Buying Bitcoin?! | EP 1394
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- 0:00Wholesaler just revealed that every major bank is privately
- 0:04asking him how to buy Bitcoin. And once you hear what he says
- 0:08in this clip we're about to play for you, you might finally
- 0:11understand why he's been frantically buying as much
- 0:15Bitcoin as possible in 2025. It's really all starting to make
- 0:20sense why he's been projecting he wants to own a million
- 0:24Bitcoin. It's it's kind of nuts, as we've
- 0:27been asking on the show for a long time.
- 0:29It's like, what does he know? Well, he finally revealed it to
- 0:32everyone what he's been sitting on.
- 0:35Let's hear from the Bitcoin MENA stage.
- 0:38Major inflection point is all of the large banks in the United
- 0:42States have gone from not banking Bitcoin 12 months ago to
- 0:47in the past six months. I have I have noted and been
- 0:51approached by BNY Mellon, by Wells Fargo, by Bank of America,
- 0:57by Charles Schwab, by JP Morgan, by city.
- 1:03They are all starting to issue credit against either Bitcoin or
- 1:07against Bitcoin derivatives like I bit.
- 1:10And so there's a sea change here.
- 1:13Wells Fargo and City of both announced intent to allow the
- 1:18custody of Bitcoin within the banks.
- 1:20And the year 2026, they'll start to extend credit.
- 1:25You heard it there guys, literally every major bank.
- 1:28Now, I know from a Bitcoiner perspective, from like a
- 1:30hardcore perspective, you're like, who cares, man?
- 1:33Like I, I didn't get in this for the banks to adopt Bitcoin.
- 1:37But as we always say, you know, Bitcoin is for enemies.
- 1:40And if you hear some of the earliest ridings in Bitcoin,
- 1:43again, in particular how Finney, this is kind of how it was
- 1:46always going to play out. And so as I've been saying for
- 1:49you guys, 2025 is fundamentally that year where we did cross the
- 1:55Rubicon. I remember earlier in this year,
- 1:57I kept kind of hinting on this idea that it feels like 2025 is
- 2:02the year that all the institutions come in that we do
- 2:05get mainstream acceptance. And yet, and though retail
- 2:08hasn't really survived here, or rather hasn't really arrived
- 2:12here, we have noticed that fundamentally the institutions
- 2:17want your Bitcoin. And not only do they want your
- 2:20Bitcoin, but they are positioning themselves to
- 2:23unleash all of these Bitcoin products.
- 2:26And as I said, you know, sailors been out here frantically buying
- 2:30Bitcoin. Actually, when I was kind of
- 2:31going over this idea this morning, I, I was making the
- 2:35analogy that Sailor reminds me and he's been in Bitcoin for
- 2:38what, over four or five years at this point?
- 2:40But Sailor reminds me of when you first get into Bitcoin and
- 2:44you have this feeling like Bitcoin is going to RIP and
- 2:48you're just trying to stack as much Bitcoin as possible
- 2:51because, you know, like, it's going to go soon.
- 2:53Now, we didn't see that play out in 2025, but as we've kind of
- 2:58been hearing throughout the year, Sailor has been hinting on
- 3:00all of these ideas is like, like some of the conversations I'm
- 3:04having with some of the biggest names.
- 3:07It's really happening now. And This is why I think he's
- 3:10been, you know, buying as much Bitcoin as possible, unleashing
- 3:13all of these different Bitcoin products so that he can position
- 3:16himself. And he has said he wants to get
- 3:19to 1,000,000 Bitcoin. Now, for a while there, it was
- 3:22like, that's going to be impossible.
- 3:23But you got to remember, since the Trump administration came
- 3:27out pro Bitcoin, Sailor has stacked about 400,000 plus
- 3:31coins. Now, if the price stays at these
- 3:34levels for another six months, I don't think it's gonna be too,
- 3:38too big of a guess to say that sailor might actually acquire
- 3:41another what, 350,000 coins? I, I think he might be on that
- 3:45boat now. I'm not alone of course.
- 3:47I got Sophie with me today before I play another clip
- 3:51coming out of Bitcoin MENA where he also dropped another
- 3:54bombshell about who's he's talking to right now.
- 3:57Let's start here 'cause Soph, I know we've been covering the
- 4:00news of the institutions, the banks on On one hand, it doesn't
- 4:03really make you feel the best. You're like, I'm here to
- 4:05separate money from state. But now we know that the signal
- 4:09has been essentially shot. Like if you are looking at all
- 4:13this news right now and it doesn't make you feel like you
- 4:17need to own some Bitcoin. If you are a no coiner right now
- 4:19and you're seeing all of the biggest banks in the world.
- 4:22And this is basically like, Oh yeah, you know, I knew I
- 4:25shouldn't have bought it because the banks want it.
- 4:27Now it it's really hard to see how people are looking at this
- 4:31and not trying to stack as much Bitcoin as possible when every
- 4:34signal is saying you should probably get some of this stuff
- 4:37right now. So actually Sophie, I know we
- 4:40were talking this morning about Wall Street Co opting Bitcoin.
- 4:43I don't know if this is the angle you want to go on, so I'm
- 4:45going to just throw that out there.
- 4:47What's your thoughts on this? So.
- 4:48I mean, it's it's not so much just that Wall Street is Co
- 4:52opting Bitcoin or seeing the writing on the wall.
- 4:54I think that we've been making that case for, you know, the
- 4:58longest time, I think ever since October was a total failure.
- 5:02But what surprises me about what sailors talking about, and, you
- 5:06know, now I am, I understand the reason that he was so calm this
- 5:10entire time about, you know, we all thought, oh, my God, he's
- 5:14going to get liquidated AT70K. What happens if that happens?
- 5:18And this man was just like, totally cool.
- 5:21Even when he had that attack by JP Morgan Chase, he was he was
- 5:26like, well, that might be kind of an exaggeration.
- 5:29Like he just totally took it in stride.
- 5:31And I think it's because the banks have absolutely humbled
- 5:36themselves to Sailor. They have not just bent the knee
- 5:40to Bitcoin, which, you know, was a no brainer.
- 5:44I think anybody could see that eventually traditional finance
- 5:47was going to bend the need to Bitcoin.
- 5:50But they've bent the need to Sailor.
- 5:53They've bent the need to the outsider, essentially.
- 5:56And I find that extremely interesting because if they're
- 6:01capitulating to Sailor, then that means that not just not
- 6:06just sailors frantically buying Bitcoin, but they are too.
- 6:10And that could probably explain why there has been so much price
- 6:14manipulation. I think now we've confirmed that
- 6:17it's coming from inside of trad Phi and we've also seen some
- 6:22manipulation from the government.
- 6:25Frankly, I mean, for for our side, for our side, it's been a
- 6:29totally positive type of manipulation, but it is
- 6:32manipulation nonetheless. I mean, there are laws that are
- 6:35trying to be passed in favor of Bitcoin, in favor of stable
- 6:39coins, in favor of creating an infrastructure that supports
- 6:44Bitcoin. So they aren't just buy the the
- 6:47banks are kind of like they I feel like they think that
- 6:50they're late to the game. They aren't just admitting that
- 6:52they want to buy Bitcoin, but they're also saying we don't
- 6:56know how. And when they say they don't
- 6:58know how the, the humility that is required to ask Sailor
- 7:02specifically, that's the real signal that while we've been in
- 7:07a quote, UN quote bear market year, we have so much to look
- 7:12forward to in 2026. And this is absolutely not the
- 7:16end. I think that if you would have
- 7:18asked Bitcoiners 2 years ago if we would be happy with 94 K
- 7:23Bitcoin, we would all be over the moon.
- 7:25So it's just a matter of following the, you know, the,
- 7:30the principles of long time preference and being a little
- 7:35bit patient, right? Because eventually they are all
- 7:39gonna be on the same boat as us. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think
- 7:43it's become very clear this year that and I actually like the
- 7:46point that you said, they all kind of not just bent the knee
- 7:49to Bitcoin, but they bent the knee to Sailor and remember how
- 7:52much Flack Sailor was getting. And look, I, I've given Sailor a
- 7:55lot of shit on this show. I like I'll, I'll be, you know,
- 7:58I'm completely transparent on that.
- 7:59I do talk a lot of shit, you know, and I think everyone knows
- 8:03that. But I think, like the biggest
- 8:07example of this was the JP Morgan kind of scenario where,
- 8:11you know, they flooded strategy and then literally a week later
- 8:14they announced their own kind of sailor copycat model.
- 8:18And now kind of it goes into what Simon Dixon was saying for
- 8:22a while there. He's like, look, JP Morgan is
- 8:24not out here attacking Michael Saylor.
- 8:27And now Michael Saylor himself says, like, yeah, I was having
- 8:29conversations with JP Morgan, so that's probably going into why
- 8:33he was just like, yeah, you know, my stock's kind of getting
- 8:36pummeled right now. You know, I get it.
- 8:38It's kind of like a bear market vibe.
- 8:40Everyone's piling on. But remember all those clips?
- 8:44He was very calm. He was actually almost gleeful
- 8:47through them. He's just like, yeah, dude, it
- 8:49doesn't matter. Like we're going to issue more,
- 8:52you know, more, more shares, we're going to, we're going to
- 8:54still buy more Bitcoin, etcetera.
- 8:56And I actually on a, on a kind of slightly different note
- 8:59before I do cover a little more of this stuff, I like, I like
- 9:01this comment right here by Rofo and it goes, it's the opposite.
- 9:04Buy Bitcoin because the banks are buying got to get it first.
- 9:07And I, I think this is like the best signal 'cause there is a
- 9:11lot of people out there, even hardcore bitcoiners that are
- 9:14thinking, man, I, I'm not going to buy any more Bitcoin.
- 9:18Like Wall Street's here, Bitcoins here, Bitcoin has lost
- 9:22it's, you know, cypherpunk revolutionary spirit.
- 9:27And this comment kind of hits the nail on the head.
- 9:29It's like, no, you should be buying more now so that you
- 9:32actually get the Bitcoin instead of the banks.
- 9:34That's what you should be doing, especially when they're out here
- 9:37telling you, yeah, we want to acquire as much of this as
- 9:39humanly possible. The only thing you can actually
- 9:42do if you do believe in the cypherpunk ethos, if you do
- 9:45believe in the self custody revolution, is you need to
- 9:48acquire more Bitcoin. Now, obviously we don't have to
- 9:51capital of banks, but every SAT that you do buy and take into
- 9:55cold storage is 1 less SAT that the institutions in Wall Street
- 10:00get. So you know, shouts out the ROFO
- 10:02on that because that that is literally what I was trying to
- 10:04say. OK, you.
- 10:05Know I I agree with that. I think that if Sailor is
- 10:09scrambling to buy a million Bitcoin, then you should also
- 10:14probably be scrambling to raise your stack as much as possible.
- 10:19Because once institutions get their grubby little hands on
- 10:23Bitcoin and they start repurposing it as paper Bitcoin
- 10:28and selling it to your grandma and grandpa and start, you know,
- 10:31promoting 4 O1 KS with Bitcoin ETFs, you're going to wish that
- 10:37you had more Bitcoin. Whether that's that's for better
- 10:41or for worse, you're going to wish.
- 10:42Look at the topic though. Look at the comet.
- 10:44Oh God, what? Even Sophie is more Polish than
- 10:48Nico. Well, well behind the scenes she
- 10:51was actually probably more bearish.
- 10:52I was. Having a moment.
- 10:53I was having a moment. I was really scared.
- 10:56I was like, it's over, we're done.
- 10:59We're going to have to hibernate for another two to three years.
- 11:03You know, the, the typical Penelope Cruise and that scene
- 11:06of blow. What are we going to do to live?
- 11:09But yeah, that was me. But I'm I'm OK now.
- 11:13I'm back to earth. I've.
- 11:15Been making content so I've been drinking my own Hopi.
- 11:18I'm getting high on my own supply and, and honestly, I
- 11:23just, I need to take my emotions out of it and realize that all
- 11:26of the pieces are coming together.
- 11:28I need to like switch from my female brain to my male brain
- 11:32and just be like, all right, logically speaking, the
- 11:35government, traditional finance Sailor, they are all going hard
- 11:43on Bitcoin. Something listen, it's going to
- 11:46happen. You just got to have faith.
- 11:48You got to wait. I'm a woman of God.
- 11:51I, I have been through this before on a spiritual level.
- 11:55And this is, and this is what it is.
- 11:56It's just having a little bit of, of faith and I think it's
- 12:01going to be OK. I, I really, honestly this,
- 12:04everything that Sailor said at this conference put me back into
- 12:09the paradigm that we are going to possibly RIP in 2026.
- 12:15Yeah, I'm sorry. The chat, the chat's, the chat's
- 12:18killing it right now. All right, anyways, let's let's
- 12:20go a little further on this first particular news before I
- 12:23play you one more clip from Sailor at the Bitcoin MENA
- 12:26conference. I really like this response here
- 12:28from Caitlin Long. Obviously you guys remember her
- 12:32whole kind of saga with her custodia bank where they
- 12:36basically didn't give her a bank charter because she was fully
- 12:39collateralized and then said, oh, this isn't safe.
- 12:42Here's her take on this. So she is, I would argue, an
- 12:45insider on how banks work and how Bitcoin bank should properly
- 12:49work. And now that the big banks are
- 12:51coming into Bitcoin, this is her take.
- 12:54This is fine as long as the loans never go above 1 to one.
- 12:57If the banks are leveraged over 1 to one, this is not fine.
- 13:01Understand the difference between commodity credit versus
- 13:04circulation credit. Commodity credit is fine.
- 13:06Circulate credit is not so, you know, as as much as Sailor has
- 13:11come out here and he's been really touting this idea of
- 13:14digital credit, it's like, you know, it's his new kind of line
- 13:18here. Remember it was like cyber
- 13:19Hornets. I, I forget, I forget what the
- 13:21old stuff was what you know, I, I forget, you know, the energy
- 13:26of cyber Hornets protecting the goddess of, of money.
- 13:29I, I forget what they were, but I, I did like the old sailor
- 13:33isms. Now, you can tell if you did
- 13:36watch this Bitcoin MENA conference, I think all of his
- 13:38kind of not just a keynote, but every presentation he had, you
- 13:43can kind of see a different tone and kind of a different,
- 13:48slightly different perspective of what he's doing.
- 13:50And I think that is because he understands that he's talking to
- 13:53a whole new audience. He's no longer talking to the
- 13:56plebs out here. He's talking to sovereign wealth
- 13:58funds, nation states, the institutions, and so his his, I
- 14:04don't want to say his narrative is shifted, but his kind of
- 14:07example. His tone of voice is his.
- 14:10Examples are shifted. Had to shift.
- 14:12If you talk to these people, I'm not even going to say what was
- 14:17on my mind originally. You talk to these people in the
- 14:21same with the same incentives that would drive regular people,
- 14:27plebs, what have you, cypherpunks into buying Bitcoin.
- 14:31They're going to be like, why would we want this?
- 14:33But if you start speaking their language and say digital asset
- 14:38borrowing, whatever, like mumbo jumbo, if you start packaging it
- 14:43up in this neat, nice little wrapping paper with a cherry on
- 14:47top and disguise it as the stuff that they have usually been
- 14:53selling to their clients. Well then it might just work for
- 14:58them. And that those might be their
- 15:01reasons for buying it. And The funny thing is that our
- 15:04incentives don't have to necessarily align because
- 15:08Bitcoin is going to do what it's going to do.
- 15:10It's rooted in truth. You can't print more of it.
- 15:13You can't control it. You can't.
- 15:15But if you if you tell these people you're going to be super
- 15:19rich if you just buy a bunch of Bitcoin and repackage it and
- 15:22sell it. However you want, but the whole
- 15:24point is buying more Bitcoin and to us smarter people keeping it
- 15:29in self custody, then, you know, it's kind of a win win for both
- 15:33sides in my opinion. Yeah, there's there's comment on
- 15:37Rumble. Hilarious, He goes, what is it,
- 15:39Ben Benazit, Ben Assets. He goes, it's OK to be on the
- 15:44same boat as long as it's not the Titanic.
- 15:46So as long as we're not on the Titanic, we should be good.
- 15:51OK. Anyways, I do want to play one
- 15:54more clip. To that point, self custody
- 15:56would be the life. Yeah, yeah, exactly 100.
- 15:59Percent Think about who it is that tied on the Titanic, but
- 16:02that's that's a that's conspiracy theory for a
- 16:05different day. We're not here to talk about
- 16:08conspiracy theories. I love it.
- 16:11I love what Sophie thought. OK, OK, OK, next clip here.
- 16:14I don't know if you guys saw this, but Sailor also revealed
- 16:20other people that he's talking to.
- 16:23And I, I thought this was almost good enough for a show
- 16:27yesterday, but I'm really glad I saved it until we heard Sailor's
- 16:30keynote. Because if you combine both of
- 16:32these clips together, I think he's really kind of telegraphing
- 16:36and projecting where things are going.
- 16:38It's really the first half of this clip, but since he's been
- 16:41talking about digital credit and all this stuff, I'm going to
- 16:44play the whole clip that that's kind of the reason why I didn't,
- 16:47I didn't play it yesterday because I'm like, like the first
- 16:49part of the clip is really good. Now this whole digital credit
- 16:51stuff, I maybe it's because I'm a 42 IQ and I can't really
- 16:54understand fully what he's doing.
- 16:57I've never, I, I've never been shy to say on the show that I
- 17:01don't fully understand what Sailor is doing.
- 17:04I think he's doing something that in hindsight will look back
- 17:07and be like, OK, that was genius.
- 17:09So I'm going to play the clip in entirety, but really connect
- 17:13that first clip with the first part of this clip.
- 17:16And then and then you'll kind of get, you know, the second part
- 17:18of the clip might, might seem like it's really not related,
- 17:21but but I do kind of think it is.
- 17:23So here's the second clip from Bitcoin Mina.
- 17:26This actually aired before his keynote speech.
- 17:28So again, combining these two clips together, it's hard to not
- 17:32stay bullish right now, even though the price has pretty much
- 17:35been down all year. Stable coin it it's it hasn't
- 17:38been the best year, to be honest, but let's play the clip
- 17:40and we'll be right back. So I've been meeting with, I've
- 17:45been obviously meeting with all the sovereign wealth funds.
- 17:48I've been meeting with, I don't know, 50, a hundred different
- 17:55investors, hedge funds, family office investors that are
- 18:00interested. I've been meeting with banks and
- 18:05people that own banks, Oregon run banks.
- 18:08I've been meeting with fund managers that offer financial
- 18:13products. I've been meeting with
- 18:15regulators in every jurisdiction.
- 18:19And I think, and my message by the way is, is very, very
- 18:25straightforward. My message is we now have
- 18:30digital capital. Bitcoin is digital capital is
- 18:33digital gold. On top of digital capital we
- 18:37have a new asset class called digital credit.
- 18:41Digital credit strips the volatility from the capital and
- 18:46provides yield income. So the simple idea is if you
- 18:52have a 5 year old kid, you can give them $1,000,000 worth of
- 18:55land in Manhattan. That's capital and tell them
- 18:59wait 30 years and then maybe they'll be rich but there are no
- 19:03cash flows. Or you can give them a credit
- 19:06instrument that pays them $10,000 a month forever,
- 19:09starting now. It's yeah, like crazy financial
- 19:15engineering to say the least. But I like, I don't, I don't
- 19:20know. What that just meant that just
- 19:22put me on the other side of the bell curve.
- 19:24Yeah, yeah. No, I mean like, look, as a long
- 19:27time Bitcoiner, anytime I hear he'll yield, hear the idea of
- 19:32getting yield on your Bitcoin, it's ended in a disaster.
- 19:37And so maybe this is, I don't know, May just like old
- 19:42thinking, like PTSD, you know, maybe I haven't updated my model
- 19:47and fully understood this idea of yield.
- 19:49I know, I know Tratfi loves this idea of yield.
- 19:52That's one of their biggest kind of retorts against Bitcoin is
- 19:55like, oh, Bitcoins an unproductive product.
- 19:57It's got no yield, bro. And now sailor seems to have
- 20:01figured it out, though. I know a lot of people, even
- 20:04some of my friends in the chat are like, it sounds like he's
- 20:06running a Ponzi, bro. I look, I don't know about even
- 20:09kind of Jack Mahler's almost kind of said that the other day.
- 20:13But I have also heard some of my friends basically tell me like
- 20:18yeah the msty product 10% a month bro like.
- 20:21I just give them some Bitcoin. I don't even work a job.
- 20:24I make a good income and I'm like, yo, hey, teach me about
- 20:28this a little bit. So look, it is, it is, it is
- 20:32very intriguing to say the least.
- 20:36But this whole idea that he's kind of on again, he is talking
- 20:40to a whole new audience. So he is probably tailoring a
- 20:43whole the all these products as I've been saying for Tranfi
- 20:47institutions for people that are a bit more critical of Bitcoin
- 20:53and kind of giving them what they want.
- 20:55And again, I, I don't have the, the IQ level or the experience
- 21:02from Wall Street to really kind of judge these products.
- 21:07Again, I learned all of my knowledge through the lens of
- 21:10Bitcoin. And so this is one of those
- 21:12points where I know I need to kind of like really dive down
- 21:15and understand this is like, is this actually a viable product?
- 21:19Can this actually work out? Because I have seen a lot of
- 21:21friends do it, but you can tell if you connect the first the
- 21:26first clip with this clip, he said what a couple one very
- 21:31specific trend he's like, I've been talking to everyone,
- 21:34literally everyone who is anyone with any capital is getting
- 21:38interested in Bitcoin right now and you're still bearish like
- 21:43Saylor has been knowing about this for months.
- 21:46This is why he's been so calm, even though he's kind of been
- 21:49getting blasted right now in his stock portfolio.
- 21:51He's still acquiring Bitcoin, but the stock hasn't been
- 21:54looking too good. He is kind of getting attacked
- 21:56from all sides, but this is how you know that there is some
- 22:00crazy stuff coming down the pipeline.
- 22:02And this is how I've kind of maintained my my bullishness
- 22:07throughout this year into 2026 is just looking at all the news.
- 22:11And before I had Sailor basically tell me what I've kind
- 22:14of intuitively understood is that with all the news we've
- 22:18seen this year, it's just very hard for me to believe that with
- 22:23them. And by them, I mean the
- 22:25institutions, the hedge funds, the nation states, the sovereign
- 22:28wealth funds, the banks, with all of them trying to scramble
- 22:32to launch Bitcoin products, scramble to buy Bitcoin, acquire
- 22:36Bitcoin. You're telling me that 2026 is a
- 22:40going to be a -80% bear market? I'm like, it just makes no sense
- 22:44with the amount of Bitcoin that they are.
- 22:46And I will do scare quotes allegedly buying here.
- 22:49I know it's paper Bitcoin summer, but with the amount of
- 22:53Bitcoin that even Sailor himself is buying, it's just, it's, it's
- 22:58going to overwhelm the amount of coins that eventually are going
- 23:02to be sold by the whales, by retail, and then of course by
- 23:05the amount of Bitcoin that gets issued block by block.
- 23:09It's it, it, there's going to be a breaking point here soon.
- 23:12And I think 2026 is probably going to be that year since
- 23:15we've had such a weird 2024-2025.
- 23:19I don't want to say cycle, but year like from from last year
- 23:23into this year, obviously all our models are broken.
- 23:26We're really not fully understanding what's going on.
- 23:30But as I said yesterday, or maybe it was Friday, as the
- 23:32year's gone along more and more and we kind of have more data
- 23:36and we start to see more of the playbook being unleashed or
- 23:39maybe be leaked. It just makes me think like 2026
- 23:42is going to continue to go up. And the fact not just because
- 23:46they're saying it's going to go up.
- 23:47Uh oh, all the buying. All right, we're back.
- 23:56We're going to make it, Bros. We're going to make it.
- 23:58We're going to make it anyway. So you want to add on this or
- 24:02are we could keep the show moving?
- 24:03I mean, I'm trying to figure out a sophisticated way of
- 24:07explaining this. There's this website, right,
- 24:12that you probably know of better than I do, where you put in your
- 24:18Bitcoin stack and then your year over year interest or sorry, not
- 24:23interest, the inflation in your country and how much money
- 24:28essentially you need to live year over year.
- 24:31And then eventually as time progresses, you reach like your
- 24:36Bitcoin day and you can survive. Oh, it's the retirement
- 24:41calculators. Yeah, it's like a retirement
- 24:43calculator, but it's called something specific.
- 24:45I don't know. Nico and I have like tried it
- 24:47out just for fun and, and I the reason I bring that up is
- 24:53because I think that this is a concept that banks and
- 24:56institutions are starting to understand.
- 24:59And I think that's why they are so aggressively trying to create
- 25:03this bubble around the ETFs and why they're trying to launch
- 25:08them so hard. I think that they know that the
- 25:11more Bitcoin they have in self custody, the more powerful they
- 25:15are and then the more they can sell their ETFs so that they can
- 25:19profit off of selling the ETFs and the yield that Bitcoin
- 25:24naturally produces. Does that make sense the way
- 25:27that I'm saying it or no? Yeah.
- 25:30Optus. Look, Amy word.
- 25:32Absolutely no. I, I, I don't want to say it on
- 25:34the stream again because I told you I wasn't going to do that.
- 25:38Oh, you weren't listening to me, He.
- 25:40Did it again. I I was looking at the chat.
- 25:42Sorry. No, it's all good.
- 25:44Repeat it simply one more time. Sorry.
- 25:46Banks want to keep Bitcoin in self custody so that they can
- 25:50sell you paper Bitcoin and make money off of your buying paper
- 25:55Bitcoin. Yes, yes, 100.
- 25:56Percent. And so that's like, I mean,
- 25:59eventually, one day you could become the bank by holding
- 26:03Bitcoin in self custody. Eventually you could be that
- 26:07powerful. And I think that they very much
- 26:10understand that. I think Sailor understands that.
- 26:12I think that's why everybody is trying to have a Bitcoin
- 26:16treasury company right now. I think that's why they're
- 26:19calling it kind of like the ICO of this cycle.
- 26:23And I think that's why sailors going to be successful because
- 26:26he understands that he can make money off of just keeping
- 26:30Bitcoin in self custody and he's telling us to our faces what
- 26:34he's doing. Now The thing is, are, are
- 26:37people going to take the convenient route of keeping, you
- 26:42know, buying Bitcoin from the banks and letting them keep
- 26:46profiting off of your money the way that Fiat has done for a
- 26:51long time now? Or are you going to break the
- 26:54cycle and keep your Bitcoin in self custody?
- 26:57This is why we talked about it and we make such an emphasis on
- 27:00it. It's not just, you know, we, we
- 27:02want you to opt out for no reason.
- 27:04We want you to opt out so that you can like enjoy your
- 27:07grandkids and possibly like retire early and not have to
- 27:11deal with all of this nicely packaged garbage because that's
- 27:16essentially what it is. You're buying paper Bitcoin.
- 27:18You're buying something that isn't really the real thing.
- 27:22It's like people who buy gold over the stock market.
- 27:26You're not actually buying gold. You're not buying the bars of
- 27:28gold. You're buying the the gold that
- 27:32the the guy from Binance was giving Peter Schiff the other
- 27:36day. It's like not real.
- 27:39And and that's why we encourage you to take Bitcoin in self
- 27:42custody because what Sailor said about, you know, buying land in
- 27:46Manhattan 100 years ago, it's it's an analogy that most people
- 27:50can understand. And then having it produce yield
- 27:53right away. He's telling you to your face
- 27:56what it is that he is doing himself and what banks are
- 27:59asking him about himself. And if you don't understand
- 28:02that, if you think that, you know, banks are just in it
- 28:05because, oh, Bitcoin is a hard asset and it's a hedge against
- 28:09inflation. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 28:11These people are the most powerful people in the world.
- 28:14And all they want is to get more powerful overtime.
- 28:18And they see this as a tool to to get more powerful overtime.
- 28:23And while it might seem like a win win for you and them, it's
- 28:27actually a bigger win for them overtime because they get that
- 28:30yield instantly. That's how Bitcoin works.
- 28:33And if you haven't seen that calculator, I highly encourage
- 28:36you to to look at it. I don't know what it's called,
- 28:39but I'm sure someone in the in the comments will figure it out.
- 28:43Yeah, I think we've we've put it on the show before, but I'm I'm
- 28:46blanking on on on the. Name.
- 28:48Right. Yeah, but I don't know what the
- 28:49website was, but to a couple of your points.
- 28:53Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm fully convinced that as this year's
- 28:58progress, and I think it was, I don't know if it was Sailor or
- 29:01if it was Croesus earlier in the year, maybe it was the end of
- 29:04last year. But there was kind of this idea
- 29:07that at a certain point, once Bitcoin is kind of not
- 29:12necessarily the world reserve currency, but when it is so
- 29:15prominently accepted, when all the banks really want Bitcoin,
- 29:18they're going to be looking for Bitcoin.
- 29:20And since there really isn't that much Bitcoin left, there's
- 29:23going to be a point where they're essentially coming to
- 29:25Bitcoiners and paying us to, you know, like paying us a lot so
- 29:30that they can use that Bitcoin. It's like what a savings account
- 29:34used to be like. They'll actually pay you for
- 29:36your your productive assets, even though productive assets
- 29:39might be. Different.
- 29:39I think that that is exactly what happened in October and
- 29:43November of this year. I think that's why these months
- 29:47kind of got cut short to put it, to put it lightly.
- 29:52I think a bunch of, I mean, we saw it, a bunch of Ogs were
- 29:55selling massive amounts of Bitcoin.
- 29:57And I would have loved to have been a family on the wall for
- 30:00those conversations because I, I genuinely think that they sold
- 30:04it to these large institutions, maybe at a premium even, because
- 30:09they saw the opportunity in the writing on the wall.
- 30:13Yeah, totally. I I think I totally agree with
- 30:17that. So Sophie, wait, there already
- 30:19is a Sofi bank, Sophie Bank soon, Optibank soon.
- 30:23Simply Bitcoin chat bank soon. No, no, we won't.
- 30:27We won't be doing that anyways. Well, well, maybe.
- 30:31Maybe, I don't know, Like, no, not not us personally, but but I
- 30:35think individuals in general, I think that that person has the
- 30:39right idea. I think individuals in general
- 30:41might start decentralizing finance as we know it, and I
- 30:46think that's what the banks want to try to avoid by all means
- 30:50necessary. That's why they're trying to
- 30:52front run us. But the reality is that a lot of
- 30:55us have already seen the writing on the wall.
- 30:58We already hold Bitcoin in self custody and now you know, our
- 31:02our patience is being tested. We are trying to get shaken out
- 31:06by the very system that we are opting out of.
- 31:10And you just got to keep fighting.
- 31:12This is the peaceful revolution, but it doesn't mean that you
- 31:15don't have to fight. Yeah, totally.
- 31:18And wow, I just blanked on the the last part.
- 31:22What? What did you say?
- 31:22I wanted to respond. I, I, I, I I got distracted in
- 31:27the chat and I had a good response to this and.
- 31:30Just because it's the peaceful revolution doesn't mean that you
- 31:32don't have to fight. No, no, no, it was before that.
- 31:36Well, anyways, anyways, whatever.
- 31:38That's on you for not. Listening.
- 31:40No, it wasn't it wasn't that I wasn't listening.
- 31:42I I actually was listening and I was gonna have a good response,
- 31:45but I completely blanked on what I wanted to say.
- 31:48Anyways guys. Do you had a very good weekend
- 31:51this weekend? Hey yo chill, hey yo, stand on
- 31:56my business selfie. Sheesh, man, there was something
- 32:01I wanted to say anyways, whatever, it'll come back to me
- 32:03later. Of course guys, before I keep
- 32:06the show going, I want to remind you to smash the like button,
- 32:09comment on the show, let us know what you think and of course,
- 32:11hit the subscribe if you like. Sophie over here, she's dropping
- 32:14content. We also have Dante and Rustin
- 32:17and Ocean's dropping content. We drop the most content guys
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- 34:59The current Bitcoin price is $93,950.
- 35:04I repeat 93,950. We are back above 93 guys, if we
- 35:09can hold on to 93 K, I'm really I'm like gonna be stupidly
- 35:14bullish on the show. Obviously my next number is one
- 35:16O 8. If we break one O 8, I think
- 35:19it's game on. But if we can hold on to this 93
- 35:22I, I, I think it's, it's pretty healthy guys.
- 35:25It's looking a little frothy anyways.
- 35:26We are at a -25.5% discount from all time high and the market cap
- 35:31is currently 1.88 trillion. We're coming back to 2 trillion.
- 35:35And then of course, really the only time that matters on planet
- 35:39Earth is the block height. And we are currently at 927,156
- 35:44again. TikTok next block.
- 35:47All right guys, So this next clip, first of all, you know
- 35:52what's up? What's this?
- 35:53What's up with Dasha though? Dasha burns Hello.
- 35:55Hey, I like her Dasha hello. Anyways, Anyways anyways
- 36:03anyways. One's in the.
- 36:06Chat if you miss me anyways. Anyways, we we've been covering
- 36:10on this show for a while, actually basically all year.
- 36:14The war between the Trump administration or the the
- 36:18Treasury Secretary versus the Fed, Trump versus Jay Powell,
- 36:22Scott Besson versus Jay Powell. And recently, as we've been
- 36:26covering on the show, it seems like we might be getting a, you
- 36:32know, X Coinbase advisor to replace Jay Powell and Trump
- 36:36just did this interview. And, you know, obviously if
- 36:40Trump is able to kind of corral the Fed and really put them
- 36:44under their their kind of control, then we all know what
- 36:48he wants to do. He wants to cut interest rates,
- 36:50obviously, you know, increase liquidity into the system QE by
- 36:53any other name. Well, in this interview, he got
- 36:56asked point blank if this is what he he wants to do and he
- 37:00pretty much said so. So let's listen to this real
- 37:02clip. It's short.
- 37:03It's like 20 seconds and we'll be right back in.
- 37:05Remember this a little bit. I want to ask about interest
- 37:08rates because a lot of Americans agree with you that they're too
- 37:11high. You're going to pick a new Fed
- 37:13chair soon. Is it a litmus test that the new
- 37:15chair lower interest rates immediately?
- 37:17Yes. Well, this guy too should too,
- 37:21but I think he's a combination of not a smart person and
- 37:25doesn't like Trump. Yeah, he's still got it, guys.
- 37:30He's still got it. Got it.
- 37:32Say what you want about Trump, but the man is entertaining.
- 37:34Yeah, he is hilarious. A natural born comedian, so
- 37:39entertaining. Yeah, 100% now.
- 37:41OK. The reason I'm bringing this up
- 37:43is obviously we are going to see tomorrow whether we get rate
- 37:47cuts. I think it's almost a lock in.
- 37:49I didn't look at the Poly market odds this morning, but I think
- 37:53I, I think the consensus right now is it's not so much if we're
- 37:57going to get rate cuts, it's just how much are we going to
- 38:00get rate cuts. And obviously, as he kind of
- 38:04leaked in that, you know, maybe telegraphed a little bit, he is
- 38:08going to pick a new Fed chair. A lot of people in the cabinet
- 38:11have been saying it's going to happen by end of year.
- 38:13There's been a lot of rumors saying that Jay Powell is going
- 38:17to resign the beginning of the year.
- 38:19I highly doubt he will resign considering that his tenure's up
- 38:22in April. So, you know, I'm pretty sure
- 38:25he'll be in in his position until April.
- 38:29Who knows what happens, Obviously political circus and
- 38:32all that stuff. But what we do know is the next
- 38:36Fed chair, basically the guy to replace Jerome Powell, is most
- 38:41likely going to be a Trump guy. And right now, as I've been
- 38:45saying, the odds are that Coinbase X or ex Coinbase
- 38:50advisor Kevin Hassett seems to be the leader on this.
- 38:53And he has been around doing the round basically saying that it's
- 38:57time to cautiously start cutting rates again.
- 39:01You know, cautiously start cutting rates.
- 39:03Who knows what that means? It could still be an aggressive
- 39:06rate cutting schedule, but it could be kind of, you know, 25
- 39:09bits here, 25 bits there. A lot of people, I think he even
- 39:13said a couple of weeks ago that the Fed should cut like 100 bits
- 39:17this month. So tomorrow we'll see if that
- 39:21happened. We're going to see.
- 39:22I mean, I, I think rate cuts are pretty much locked in.
- 39:25But again, as I've been telling you guys all year long, look,
- 39:30Trump is kind of hilarious. He is soda sort of like low key
- 39:33bipolar sometimes, you know, sometimes the tariffs are on,
- 39:36sometimes they're off. 1 moment we're in a trade war, next
- 39:40minute we're not in a trade war. You know, there's, there's been
- 39:43a lot of conflicting information coming out of the Trump
- 39:46administration so that the not only the whole world, but all of
- 39:50the world's economics are kind of in this, in this weird
- 39:53purgatory right now. Because we really don't know
- 39:56what's going to happen. We we don't know if this week is
- 39:58going to be the same as next week.
- 40:00But one thing has maintained the same throughout the whole year.
- 40:04Trump really wants rate cuts. He wants cheaper money.
- 40:08He wants more liquidity. And now we know for a fact that
- 40:12the next guy that comes in is most likely going to be all on
- 40:17board on the Mar A Lago Accords. AKA cut rates, increased
- 40:21liquidity. We all know QT just ended a
- 40:23couple days ago. The money printer is about to go
- 40:27into OverDrive. Guys, this is like they're
- 40:29they've been they've been saying this without saying it for the
- 40:33whole year. Now it's becoming very obvious
- 40:35that this is the case. If it is Kevin Hassett as the
- 40:38next chair of the Fed, obviously, I guess you could
- 40:42argue kind of a bitcoiner, maybe the bitcoiners are taking over
- 40:45the Fed Obviously we wanted to end the Fed, but I guess first
- 40:48step is taking over the Fed. So, you know, baby steps here, I
- 40:52mean. What better way to end the Fed
- 40:55but to show people that we can just print money into oblivion?
- 41:00What better way to show people that this model is dead than to
- 41:05print money for free that you have to work for, as Nico always
- 41:08said. And remember, Trump is between a
- 41:12rock and a hard place. The GOP has to have midterms
- 41:17next year. And people are really pissed off
- 41:20with the party. A lot of people who voted for
- 41:23Trump are extremely dissatisfied with his presidency.
- 41:28It is not at all what people thought it would be.
- 41:31And if the economy doesn't rebound, then the GOP is going
- 41:35to lose. I mean, I don't know what magic
- 41:37he's going to pull out of his, you know what?
- 41:39But he he's got to do something. And I think that at this point,
- 41:44having Kevin Hassett be the new Fed chair is kind of like a Hail
- 41:49Mary. And even then, like we who knows
- 41:53what how this is going to actually affect the economy.
- 41:57I think this is going to be great for Bitcoin.
- 41:59And, you know, don't forget that him and his family have a
- 42:04personal vested interest in in Bitcoin.
- 42:08But how is this going to affect the rest of the country?
- 42:12We don't know. I'm I'm hoping that it's it's a
- 42:15positive thing. Well, I mean, if a few things.
- 42:20First off, we've been saying rate cuts are going to be very
- 42:24positive all year. Every time they did it, the
- 42:27Bitcoin price dropped. So I think in the short term it
- 42:31might not be the best. So there might be some
- 42:34volatility, but in the long run, what Sophie said is true.
- 42:38We all know what is going to happen.
- 42:40They're going to increase the money printer, they're going to
- 42:42increase the liquidity. All that's going to eventually
- 42:45find a home. We think Bitcoin's going to go
- 42:47up because of that. So in the short term, you know,
- 42:50the Fed rate cuts haven't actually been that bullish when
- 42:53they happen, but they've been bullish in the long term
- 42:56afterwards. So like, I think that's what's
- 42:58going to play out, will probably play out tomorrow.
- 43:00I think what Trump is looking for is just like headline,
- 43:04right? He just needs good press at this
- 43:07point because everything has been against him.
- 43:10And I'm talking about this as someone who witnessed him go
- 43:14through Russiagate, get impeached twice.
- 43:18I don't think I've ever seen so many people, especially on his
- 43:23side be against Trump. And it's because he has no room
- 43:27to stand or no leg to stand on anymore.
- 43:30He can't just blame all of this on the Democrats.
- 43:33He has the House, he has the Senate.
- 43:35He, it's his administration. He won the presidency.
- 43:37So what is going on? And the thing that he ran on,
- 43:42which was improving the economy, he is really not delivering on
- 43:48that promise. I mean, he, he literally, he, he
- 43:51decreased the, the rates, the interest rates and somehow the
- 43:57price of housing just kept going up.
- 43:59We know how that under how that works.
- 44:02We understand how inflation works.
- 44:04We understand how Fiat works and it's to our benefit, it's to the
- 44:09benefit of bitcoiners and people holding hard assets.
- 44:12But how does that affect the daily person like the normal
- 44:17average person? And that's kind of the concern
- 44:20that I have with him cutting rates.
- 44:22I mean obviously like on a selfish level would be great,
- 44:26but how, how is this going to affect the economy for real?
- 44:32Yeah. And to your point, again, I I
- 44:36don't really believe the official data and the polling
- 44:38out there, but I did just see a recent poll and I believe it was
- 44:43on CNN. So again, take it with a grain
- 44:44of salt here. It's probably not totally
- 44:47factually correct, but they did just have a headline that said
- 44:51like 75% of Americans are not happy with the economy.
- 44:55And if that is the case, you know, again, I'm, I'm, I'm
- 44:58taking that as a given here, an assumption.
- 45:01If that is the case, what we've been saying the last few weeks,
- 45:04like they really do have an uphill battle here because,
- 45:07look, Republicans usually run on a better economy.
- 45:10And if the economy is getting worse, they're going to get
- 45:13absolutely cooked in the midterms.
- 45:14And then anything that happens after the midterms, any,
- 45:17anything that the Trump administration want to do with
- 45:19Bitcoin or any other kind of, you know, legislation that they
- 45:23had on board or in mind, it's not going to happen.
- 45:26It's totally over. But then here's the other side
- 45:29of that coin. What if the people who are his
- 45:33biggest donors have to gain from this?
- 45:36Because remember when he when they made the biggest rate cuts
- 45:40back in 2021 when, you know, the whole pandemic happened, like a
- 45:48lot of people became very wealthy, very wealthy overnight,
- 45:52especially people in real estate, especially people
- 45:55invested in the S&P 500, etcetera.
- 45:58And you know, that was that was great for for them.
- 46:03And So what if these rate cuts are benefiting the very, very
- 46:08tiny, you know, small percentage at the top and the people who
- 46:12are actually running our politics?
- 46:14Wait, what if? What if?
- 46:16Yeah, Well, well. Crazy extremist over here.
- 46:20What if? I'm just asking questions I
- 46:22can't actually. Yeah, wait.
- 46:24Oh, yeah, sorry. It was a rhetorical question.
- 46:25Rhetorical. I actually am not allowed to
- 46:27make any bold statement. My opinions are.
- 46:31My own, not the. Opinions of simply Bitcoin?
- 46:33I, I mean, I love how it was rhetorical.
- 46:37I would argue that we're probably seeing the politicians
- 46:41raid the coffers right now and it's becoming very obvious
- 46:45because everyone is getting poorer.
- 46:47So like, anyways, anyways, let's keep it moving because we do
- 46:51have, again, guys, I, I said it yesterday, we have a lot of news
- 46:56coming out of the banks right now.
- 46:57And it really does go into what Saylor was saying.
- 47:02And then not only that, but we do have some recent news coming
- 47:05out of the regulatory front, which on its surface is you
- 47:09could say maybe a little shit, Coiny.
- 47:12But I think this will eventually lead to what a lot of us bit
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- 50:33little serious here. So first.
- 50:34Serious. First, yeah, first serious,
- 50:36seriously serious here. First bit of news here is PNC
- 50:41becomes the first major bank to launch a direct Bitcoin access
- 50:45for its clients powered by Coinbase's quote crypto as a
- 50:49service infrastructure. So they just announced that they
- 50:52launched direct spot Bitcoin trading capabilities for their
- 50:56eligible clients. I think big point here, eligible
- 50:59clients for PNC Private bank. Now you may not know PNC,
- 51:03they're not the biggest bank, they're like the 7th largest
- 51:06bank. They hold about half a trillion
- 51:07dollars of assets, but it is technically the first major bank
- 51:12to unleash quote direct spot Bitcoin trading capabilities.
- 51:16Again, it's for a quote eligible client, which is a trend we've
- 51:21seen throughout this whole year and started last year that first
- 51:25they unleash this to usually their high net worth
- 51:27individuals, you know, the high net worth clients and then
- 51:30eventually they'll let the peasants get it afterwards.
- 51:32It seems to be that this is what they're doing again.
- 51:34But hey, you know, announcements coming from the bank, as I've
- 51:37been telling you guys all all this week and all of last week,
- 51:42every bank since JP Morgan came out and offered their, you know,
- 51:47strategy, Copycat is now positioning themselves.
- 51:50They seem to be launching these Bitcoin products like, you know,
- 51:54Domino's falling. As Sailor said in the beginning
- 51:57of the show, every major bank, every hedge fund, sovereign
- 52:01wealth fund in the world has been talking to him.
- 52:03And now it's finally happened. Now my biggest question to this,
- 52:08and I don't know if I want to read any of the any of the
- 52:10quotes in here, but you know, it's kind of like it's kind of
- 52:13it's kind of just like standard. Hey guys, I just I want to tell
- 52:17you a little secret ready coming closer.
- 52:21You can just buy Bitcoin. You don't you don't have to be a
- 52:25high net worth individual. You don't even have to buy a
- 52:27whole entire Bitcoin. You can just buy Bitcoin and
- 52:32keep it in self custody. Yes, and let all the rest of the
- 52:36people buying paper Bitcoin have fun staying poor. 100% here
- 52:42actually I will read a little more of this because there's a
- 52:44couple interesting, you know, you can kind of really see what
- 52:48what they want to do these. People are crazy.
- 52:50Like these people are insane. I'm I'm actually like kind of
- 52:55about to crash out on this. OK, eligible.
- 52:58You have to be an eligible client to buy this super
- 53:03exclusive Bitcoin ETF. Like, are you OK?
- 53:09Like, I'm sorry, are people really that lazy?
- 53:14I think so. Like just buy Bitcoin.
- 53:17Just buy Bitcoin. Just literally like buy Bitcoin
- 53:21and if your family doesn't know how to do it, buy Bitcoin for
- 53:24them. Well, well, well, I think what
- 53:27is most interesting and I, I am going to read a couple of
- 53:31comments here or sorry, a couple of the quotes from this press
- 53:33release before I do have some other news here.
- 53:35But what I do find to be the most interesting it, it is kind
- 53:39of what Sophie just said. It really does blow my mind that
- 53:43a lot of people out there are still kind of waiting for their,
- 53:47you know, asset manager, their money manager to, to give them
- 53:50the green light to go into Bitcoin and.
- 53:54It's crazy. Yeah.
- 53:55And then what, what's more interesting to me is even though
- 53:59they are coming out and saying all of this, it doesn't seem to
- 54:03be moving the needle like we thought it would in the past.
- 54:05You'd think that like the Black Rock asset managers, the
- 54:08Vanguards, the JP Morgan's and all them coming out and talking
- 54:11to their clients and be like, hey, you should probably have
- 54:13like 1 to 4% of Bitcoin in your portfolio.
- 54:16You you'd think that more people would start to understand this.
- 54:20Well, why would they do that? It would make their jobs
- 54:22obsolete. Well, they're but The thing is,
- 54:24is they are shilling it. They they still are.
- 54:26Shilling it. They're shilling.
- 54:28I mean, I of course, but still, even even though they're
- 54:31shilling. They're not going to tell you to
- 54:33buy Bitcoin unless they can make money off.
- 54:36Of I totally agree. I totally agree.
- 54:38You buying Bitcoin and this is like, this is the beautiful
- 54:41thing about it. Like they figured it out, they
- 54:44figured it out. They figured out how to pay, how
- 54:47to package Bitcoin in a way where it's like no, no, no, no,
- 54:50no. You don't have to buy it.
- 54:52You don't have to go that self custody thing that's too
- 54:54complicated for your tiny little pea brain that doesn't even know
- 54:58how to how to trade in the US Stock Exchange.
- 55:03They think you're stupid and they want your money.
- 55:07Yeah, but further, people don't even seem to be buying it, which
- 55:10is kind of the point where I was like like, they're shilling it
- 55:13and people still don't even seem to want it, which is just crazy
- 55:16to me. Anyway, I do want to read a
- 55:18little bit of this before I move on 'cause it's going to make
- 55:20Sophie crash out even more. It goes The first generation of
- 55:23PN CS new crypto for clients quote solution integrates
- 55:27Coinbase's institutional grade CAAS infrastructure within the
- 55:32PNC Private Bank online platform through portfolio view.
- 55:36Eligible clients can now access this crypto custody type
- 55:38capabilities to directly buy, hold and sell Bitcoin.
- 55:42With more than 100 offices and serving high and ultra high net
- 55:45worth clients, PNC Private Bank is positioned to offer its
- 55:49client base access to the digital asset economy.
- 55:54Nice love, love to see it. Hey, if you're if you're rich,
- 55:57you get, you get first dibs on Bitcoin.
- 56:00If you're just an average person like us, you don't go through
- 56:03the bank to buy the Bitcoin, you just buy the Bitcoin.
- 56:06But you love how they kind of try to separate the 2.
- 56:08This is like the last thing that boomers are doing in the world
- 56:13to just like to just like be like, F you, we're out.
- 56:19We're for our final act. We are going to make all these
- 56:24institutions even more rich than we've made them before by giving
- 56:30them our money to buy Bitcoin and continue to keep control
- 56:37over the world by in the grave. OK, OK.
- 56:44I want to keep it moving. I want to keep it moving.
- 56:47Instead of just like just give that money to your kids so that
- 56:51they can buy you Bitcoin so that they can like help you like your
- 56:55actual family members that will actually take care of you into
- 57:00like, you know, This is why so many of them are in retirement
- 57:03homes. If you don't want to end up in a
- 57:06retirement home, give your money to your crazy Bitcoiner child
- 57:11who you see as a child, but is actually 35 and living at your
- 57:15house and let them buy you Bitcoin so that you can be rich
- 57:20and powerful. And so then one day they might
- 57:23be rich for their kids and give them the same things that you
- 57:27maybe gave your kids. I don't know, it seems like you
- 57:30hate them. It seems like you hate them for
- 57:34giving your money to the banks that have literally screwed you
- 57:39over. They've just been leeching off
- 57:41of your bank accounts forever and you're too dumb to realize
- 57:47it. Yeah, Boomer's final act.
- 57:50F dem kid. Wait.
- 57:51Boomer's fun. Sorry, I'm muting myself.
- 57:53I meant to mute Sophie. I said Boomer's final act.
- 57:56Just F them, kid. Don't care yeah that that was
- 58:00good good crash out so good crash out OK all right let me
- 58:03keep it moving because I I do want to cover this on today's
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- 58:44So we just got this note coming out of the CFTC.
- 58:49Again, as I've been telling you last week, it does seem like the
- 58:53SEC and the CFTC are kind of working together to give us
- 58:58some, as they always say, clear route, Rd. rules, clear rules of
- 59:02the road. Wow, that was a tongue twister
- 59:04for a little bit. Anyways, we got acting Chairman
- 59:06Pham announces, announces launch of digital assets pilot program
- 59:11for tokenized collateral in derivatives markets.
- 59:14Now, my initial reading of this is like, OK, they're going to
- 59:18tokenize all the things. And I think that is probably the
- 59:21initial read of this, but I think it all will eventually
- 59:25lead to Bitcoin in in due time. So CFTC Acting Chairman Caroline
- 59:30D Fam today announced the launch of a digital asset pilot program
- 59:33for certain digital assets, including Bitcoin, ETH and USD.
- 59:37C Very interesting that they added USDC in particular, but
- 59:43you know, that's a whole other can of worms to be used as
- 59:46collateral in derivatives market guidance on tokenized collateral
- 59:50and withdrawal of outdated requirements given the enactment
- 59:53of the GENIUS Act. So there's going to be hinging
- 59:56on whether they can pass the GENIUS Act, but today's
- 59:58announcement marks a significant milestone in the expanded
- 1:00:02adoption of digital assets and regulated markets with
- 1:00:04appropriate guardrails and follows A tokenized collateral
- 1:00:08initiative. Acting Chairman fam launched in
- 1:00:10September as part of CFT CS crypto Sprint to implement
- 1:00:13recommendations in the President Working Group on digital assets
- 1:00:16market report quote under my leadership this year, the CFTC
- 1:00:20has led the way forward into America's golden age of
- 1:00:24innovation in crypto. This imperative has never been
- 1:00:27more important given recent customer losses on non-us crypto
- 1:00:30exchanges. Americans deserve safe U.S.
- 1:00:33markets as an alternative to offshore platforms and that's
- 1:00:36why last week I announced that spot crypto so can now be traded
- 1:00:39on CFTC registered exchanges. Today I am launching AUS digital
- 1:00:45ass pilot program for tokenized collateral, including Bitcoin
- 1:00:49and the mother of all shit coin in our derivatives market that
- 1:00:52establishes clear guard rails to protect customer assets and
- 1:00:55provides enhanced CFTC monitoring and reporting.
- 1:00:59The CFTC is also providing regulatory clarity through
- 1:01:02tokenized collateral, guidance for real world assets like U.S.,
- 1:01:05Treasuries, and withdrawing CFTC requirements that are now
- 1:01:08outdated under the Genius Act. As I've said before, embracing
- 1:01:14responsibility innovation ensures that U.S. markets are
- 1:01:18the world leader and drives progress that will unleash U.S.
- 1:01:21economic growth. Market participants can safely
- 1:01:24put their dollars to work smarter and go further.
- 1:01:27Anyways, the initial read obviously, as I was kind of
- 1:01:31saying a minute ago, is it does kind of lend the idea of what
- 1:01:36Larry Fink's been saying for a while.
- 1:01:38He's like, we're going to tokenize all the things, all the
- 1:01:41equities, you know, all the commodities, everything's going
- 1:01:44to get put on the blockchain. It's like we've heard that,
- 1:01:48we've heard that before. We've heard that in 20/16/2017
- 1:01:52we're going to tokenize all the things and you know, every,
- 1:01:55everything in the world is going to have its own token.
- 1:02:00Well, it seems like now that is official.
- 1:02:04But I think the more less cynical read of this is that no
- 1:02:09longer is Bitcoin kind of the speculative outsider.
- 1:02:14This is, it's fundamentally being brought inside.
- 1:02:18They're making the rails here, and I think the powers that be,
- 1:02:22these regulators, I think they believe that by doing this,
- 1:02:25they're going to basically be able to control Bitcoin.
- 1:02:29But I think it's going to be the reverse.
- 1:02:31Like they just let the Trojan horse in and eventually it's all
- 1:02:35going to lead to Bitcoin being the pristine collateral, which
- 1:02:38is a lot of what Bitcoiners have been talking about.
- 1:02:40So this is a quote test pilot. So yeah, they're testing some
- 1:02:44other things here, but I think it's all going to eventually
- 1:02:47lead to just Bitcoin being the best collateral.
- 1:02:49Period. Go back to 2018 to 2021 and
- 1:02:55they'll get their test results. Yeah, 100% so.
- 1:03:01Like I don't get why they're talking about this.
- 1:03:03This is just so stupid. Well, it is a fundamental shift,
- 1:03:07like from a quote, regulatory stance like this is a
- 1:03:11revolutionary difference. I think that this is just, you
- 1:03:15know, institutions going through what the regular old person and
- 1:03:21went through back in 20 again, look between 2018 and 2021 and
- 1:03:27you will see the future of of all this testing.
- 1:03:33Everything is going to have a token like good luck.
- 1:03:37Good luck. There's it's been this hard to
- 1:03:40get people to buy into Bitcoin, which is the hardest asset that
- 1:03:44has ever existed in the world. Good luck getting people to buy
- 1:03:50your random token coin and like actually feel like a serious
- 1:03:56individual. What do you what do you mean?
- 1:03:59I thought fart coin was taking over the world.
- 1:04:01Sophie. I'm dead I I wonder how is is
- 1:04:04like. Dude it went out like 15X this
- 1:04:05year like it was it honestly like outperformed Bitcoin by a
- 1:04:08lot. You should have known the memes
- 1:04:10were going to do well, but that totally totally different
- 1:04:13conversation. A lot of the memes did poorly.
- 1:04:16Like listen. Yeah, but it was called fart
- 1:04:18coin. You should have known it was
- 1:04:20going to pop. That's the logic behind it
- 1:04:25anyways. Anyways, Anyways, let's keep it.
- 1:04:27Oh, wrong one. Dude, I'm spazzing out on the
- 1:04:30soundboard today anyways cuz I keep interrupting.
- 1:04:33Yeah, yeah, I keep muting myself.
- 1:04:35No, he he wants to mute me but I keep interrupting.
- 1:04:39Him anyways, we'll be right back.
- 1:04:41I have look, I'm going to be completely honest with you guys
- 1:04:45here. I'm just do, I'm just throwing
- 1:04:47some bull sauce out here. I fully don't even know what it
- 1:04:49means, but hey, it makes me feel bullish.
- 1:04:51So I want to relay it to you guys.
- 1:04:53So that's literally what I'm doing today on the culture.
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- 1:06:53freedom. All right guys you got you guys
- 1:07:00are killing it in the chat. It's it's pretty funny yeah
- 1:07:04doing good anyways, I saw this post again.
- 1:07:07Maybe you guys can fully explain this to me.
- 1:07:09I did kind of like ChatGPT this because I I don't know what it
- 1:07:14means, but you know me. My job is to stake stupidly
- 1:07:18bullish on here, and when I see some bull sauce, you already
- 1:07:22know I'm going to be talking about it, OK?
- 1:07:24I've been staying bullish while everyone around me has become
- 1:07:29bearish and so I'm literally going to be when we pump.
- 1:07:32I'm going to be so vindicated and so obnoxious about it that
- 1:07:36I'm starting my victory lap now and I think it's going to start
- 1:07:39ripping, OK? Anyways, here is what I saw.
- 1:07:43I saw Geordie Vizer Vizer post this and he's the guy that did
- 1:07:47the Bitcoin IPO moment where he kind of explained what
- 1:07:52potentially is happening in 2025 where finally Bitcoin is liquid
- 1:07:55enough that the OG whales are able to kind of sell out or sell
- 1:08:00part of their stacks without completely demolishing the
- 1:08:02market. And it seems to be a really good
- 1:08:05framework of what's going on. And he's actually been doing a
- 1:08:07lot of good kind of articles similar on his sub stack.
- 1:08:11The last one was something like there is light at the end of the
- 1:08:14Bitcoin tunnel or something like that.
- 1:08:16It was a good read. I, I think I was going to cover
- 1:08:18it or I might have read a little bit on the show, but he just
- 1:08:22dropped this chart. Now, again, maybe I'm, I'm not
- 1:08:25the biggest macro guy, you know, I, I've been dabbling in the
- 1:08:28macro, but hey, a little bull sauce for you guys on Tuesday to
- 1:08:32keep you going. That's my job here.
- 1:08:34OK, Anyways, he dropped this and he goes.
- 1:08:38The stock market is giving a warning that Bitcoin is about to
- 1:08:41rally pure volatility in quotes, beta versus pure profitability.
- 1:08:47Quote quality fell hard as Bitcoin fell, fell from 1:15 to
- 1:08:5280, which I believe was right here.
- 1:08:56This this kind of yellow line drop here and says now beta
- 1:09:01versus quality has ripped back to highs in 10 of the last 16
- 1:09:05days right here while Bitcoin is trying to gain its footing.
- 1:09:09Pure volatility versus quality correlated to PMI over time,
- 1:09:14higher Bitcoin to come again, I I ChatGPT this because I'm like
- 1:09:18what the hell is he talking about?
- 1:09:19This is like way more macro than I I even understand he's using
- 1:09:23all these acronyms. You know I'm just like what the
- 1:09:25hell am I reading anyways? The TLDR without reading the
- 1:09:28whole ChatGPT, you know, isms and dashes and all that stuff
- 1:09:32was this line right here, which I think is really kind of the
- 1:09:38big take away that it does feel like this is happening.
- 1:09:42And if this is what Jordy Bizer saying, if this is what the
- 1:09:45markets are kind of looking at, is this one sentence.
- 1:09:48The core idea, risk appetite and equities is coming back fast.
- 1:09:52And historically that lines up with Bitcoin rallying shortly
- 1:09:56after. That's the whole thesis right
- 1:09:58there that it looks like people are in the stock market looking
- 1:10:02for more risky bets, you know, more risky investments.
- 1:10:05And if that money comes back on the table, because we have been
- 1:10:08contracted acting as an economy, we have seen, you know, without
- 1:10:11all the crazy stuff we've seen this year, everyone has pretty
- 1:10:15much been sitting on the sidelines, like, I don't know
- 1:10:17what to do with my money right now.
- 1:10:18I have no clue what to do. Again, like I said, you know,
- 1:10:22one week there's a trade war. The next week it's off.
- 1:10:25One day it's 100% tariffs on China, the next day it's zero,
- 1:10:30and then the following day it's 150%.
- 1:10:33It's like no one's been able to really understand what's going
- 1:10:37on. And especially when you see
- 1:10:38what's going on. But the feds, something very
- 1:10:39similar. One day the signal is, hey, the
- 1:10:43feds going to cut rates. The next, they're not.
- 1:10:45You know, they came out before the last Fed rate cut.
- 1:10:47And they were like, yeah, we're not going to actually cut this.
- 1:10:50Even the Fed board members themselves were confused on what
- 1:10:54to do right now. So there's been a lot of
- 1:10:56uncertainty. But as you can see, it does.
- 1:11:00Look, at least this is what ChatGPT is telling me.
- 1:11:03You know, you guys in the chat could explain this better to me.
- 1:11:06Maybe you guys with the experience, but it seems like
- 1:11:10the investors are looking for a little a little more risk, a
- 1:11:13little more return, which kind of tells me that the uncertainty
- 1:11:18in the market is starting to kind of, you know, ease its way
- 1:11:21out and people are starting to make their bets for what's going
- 1:11:25to happen in 2026. So hey, if this plays out, I'll
- 1:11:28I'll show you the chart one more time.
- 1:11:31It looks like What would this be?
- 1:11:34You know, we're going to RIP back up to all time high very
- 1:11:37shortly, which I'm all for. I have been talking one of my
- 1:11:41friends and I I was actually trolling with Sophie.
- 1:11:44I didn't know if I was going to bring it up because it it like I
- 1:11:47am kind of trolling with him, but he's also like I'm kind of
- 1:11:50serious about it and I trolled him the other day.
- 1:11:53I'm like, yo, like he's getting into astrology now, which is
- 1:11:57just like hilarious to me. So I'm like, I don't know if I
- 1:11:59believe it, but I kind of do. And I asked him like, all right,
- 1:12:03do do the Bitcoin price as like an astrology chart.
- 1:12:07And he was telling me he's like, dude, December 10th is when it's
- 1:12:10a RIP and it lines up with the Fed rate cuts.
- 1:12:12And I'm like, if you're right, you're my official astrologer
- 1:12:15now throw everything. I I'm all for the bull saws.
- 1:12:21I didn't understand anything that you just talked about, and
- 1:12:24now I know. Until, until it was astrology.
- 1:12:27Well, now I know. I was going to say now I know
- 1:12:29how men feel when women talk about astrology like this is it
- 1:12:35when you guys chart boy, I'm just like, OK, like you can tell
- 1:12:39the future, but also like you're wrong half the time.
- 1:12:42It's literally. Yeah, Well, well, charts is
- 1:12:45literally astrology. So, you know, that's why I
- 1:12:48thought I was going to add this, but I yeah, let's, let's do,
- 1:12:51let's do selfie's analogy because this one's actually kind
- 1:12:54of funny too. And we're just, we're just
- 1:12:56shooting the shit here, guys. It just you know this one.
- 1:12:59This one's really, really different.
- 1:13:03Pull up. Pull up the the screenshot that
- 1:13:05I sent you. Oh, yeah.
- 1:13:07Wait, wait, hold on. Did you text it to me?
- 1:13:09I did text it to you in the. Group chat.
- 1:13:12Oh, in the group chat. Oh yeah, the group chat.
- 1:13:14OK, wait, wait. I don't know if I can, Can I
- 1:13:16share this group chat? Hold on.
- 1:13:17No, just pull up the screenshot dude.
- 1:13:20I don't know. Give me a second.
- 1:13:22Yeah, just to give you a. Little bit of background, I got
- 1:13:25it. I am part of a different group
- 1:13:27chat. It's a mom group chat.
- 1:13:30It's specifically a mom group chat that is exclusively a lot
- 1:13:35of bitcoiners and we all got pregnant at the same time
- 1:13:42completely by chance. We did not plan this.
- 1:13:45We're not even that close of friends, but but you know, over
- 1:13:50time we've we've become friends and at the time that we all had
- 1:13:55our children. The price of Bitcoin in you
- 1:14:00know, I gave it a range between January 1st 2024 to March 31st
- 1:14:062024, the price went from 42,582 to 71,333.
- 1:14:18We are all pregnant again at the same time at the same damn time
- 1:14:25this like again, not planned, but it's like the craziest thing
- 1:14:30and it it's so weird and so now my point of.
- 1:14:37Yeah, your astrology chart of the.
- 1:14:39Astrology chart of We're going to the moon is all of us Bitcoin
- 1:14:44moms our children are going to bring the price up and if if
- 1:14:49that happens honestly like we're we're we all got to like talk
- 1:14:52about making this happen again for 1/3 time because.
- 1:14:55Yeah, just keep. Single handedly carrying the
- 1:14:58price of Bitcoin on our backs. Yeah, there's this comment in
- 1:15:03here. That's crazy.
- 1:15:04Robert's crazy. Robert's crazy in the chat.
- 1:15:06That's that's a good one, dude. I don't.
- 1:15:11Know all the comments have been going.
- 1:15:15Oh my God, that was bloody man. Well.
- 1:15:18But yeah, no, that's a true story.
- 1:15:21Obviously not going to name any names, but like a lot of us, I
- 1:15:24think it's like at least like five of us are like a week apart
- 1:15:29in our due dates. And it's it's really crazy.
- 1:15:33And I guess I'll let you know if this conspiracy theory is is
- 1:15:38real. Yeah, well, you know, I think
- 1:15:41your theory on Bitcoin moms getting pregnant to pump the
- 1:15:46price is as good a theory as astrology and Bitcoin, so I'm
- 1:15:51glad we did this today. You.
- 1:15:52Know what everything is? Energy.
- 1:15:55Everything is vibes. Vibes and energy and the market
- 1:15:59is heavily speculative so I'm not even joking about that.
- 1:16:02Like people put money down four things based on how they feel
- 1:16:07about it. It's not really always about the
- 1:16:10charts. The charts provide these
- 1:16:12feelings. And so I feel totally valid in
- 1:16:17in my. Analysis.
- 1:16:18Yeah, that was like the most Miami thing I've.
- 1:16:23Ever on the show was it I? Feel like it was more LA.
- 1:16:25It was giving more LA. Like.
- 1:16:27Valley girl kind of like crystals and and yoga.
- 1:16:33That was why anyways, as as you can tell, we got to get off the
- 1:16:36show or else it's going to really go downhill and off the
- 1:16:38rails. So.
- 1:16:40We should have an after show. I've said this for so long where
- 1:16:43like I can be unleashed because no one's ever.
- 1:16:47We don't, we, I don't think we, I don't think our brand can
- 1:16:49handle selfie unleashed that. Would be a Rumble exclusive.
- 1:16:52I don't even think it can make it too rumble.
- 1:16:54Exclusive and. Yeah, like it can make it to
- 1:16:59rum. No, Nico would literally come
- 1:17:01here and just like pull me off air.
- 1:17:02Be like you're done. You're done.
- 1:17:05That's that's literally what I'm doing right now.
- 1:17:08That's exactly what is happening right now.
- 1:17:10All right, guys, look, I hope you enjoyed this show.
- 1:17:14No, dude, you're muted. Get out of here.
- 1:17:16Niko's ending the Fed by by pumping the price.
- 1:17:20That's been my the best conspiracy.
- 1:17:22Well, he's not doing a good job at pumping the price, I'll tell
- 1:17:25you that much. Well.
- 1:17:26Just wait, baby's not here yet. Just.
- 1:17:29Wait, I get it now. OK, All right, enough.
- 1:17:31All right. You know, Sophie, I made the
- 1:17:33mistake of having you speak at the end of the show before.
- 1:17:37I'm not going to make that again.
- 1:17:38So she's cut off, completely cut off today.
- 1:17:42On that note, guys, I love you guys.
- 1:17:44We love you guys. Yeah, I don't know about that.
- 1:17:48More like simply Bitcoin done forever.
- 1:17:52Yeah, we're like simply wrecked. All right, guys, again, enough
- 1:17:57joking. We love you guys.
- 1:17:58We appreciate you guys. Smash the like button, comment
- 1:18:00on the show, subscribe, all that good stuff.
- 1:18:02We will be back tomorrow at roughly 1240 PMI know it says
- 1:18:071216, but roughly 1240. You know, I, I, it takes it
- 1:18:11takes a lot to to be this beautiful and animated and
- 1:18:15charismatic on the show. So I have to doom scroll before
- 1:18:19a little bit and, you know, unwind and then I lose my shit
- 1:18:21on the show. This is this is how the magic
- 1:18:24happens. So quit yelling at me about it
- 1:18:26because I'm not going to change. All right.
- 1:18:28Anyways, we love you. We'll see you tomorrow.
- 1:18:31Have a good rest of your day. Actually, are you dropping a
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- 1:18:36You. Guys should totally.
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- 1:18:40It's a lot going on, all right, It's it's a lot going on.
- 1:18:43But if you love the show, go check it out.
- 1:18:47It's about the EU censoring people.
- 1:18:51What's new, what is new is that now they find Elon Musk $140
- 1:18:57million. So you should check that out.
- 1:18:59You should see how that affects Bitcoin and how we are kind of
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