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- Chad: Sure. Byron: Welcome back to another episode of Cut the Cuck, the show where we talk about the sport we love but know absolutely nothing about. There is rugby coming at us from all different angles, and it's been a fantastic week, and we're here to catch up on it all. Chad, let's cut the cuck. Chad: Yeah. Let's cut the cuck barn. Another fantastic week of rugby. can absolutely get used to having the they should have it every year. Just all round. Just don't don't worry about clubs. ⁓ Don't about rest. I mean we've got ⁓ the We we could do Springbox could do it. It'd be fine. Byron: Just all your all year rugby. No rest. Yeah, we've got enough we've got is enough enough players to rest everybody week in and week out and stuff. Chad: And we can start lending our players out. We c that's how we can make money. We can sell our players the Welsh for a weekend. Byron: To the Welsh or Fiji or Italy maybe. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, we live in England. Byron: Well well, you know. think before we get started, shout out of support from everyone here at Cut the Cuck, to Miss Amy Barrett Turan. ⁓ best wishes and recovery. Wish nothing but the best. Thank you for all that you've done and for everything you're gonna do. Chad: Mm-hmm. Hundred percent. And if anyone can do it, it is Amy Baratron. Yeah. Byron: She can. The the ref with the most gears. Chad: With added dash. Byron: Ref with the most hearts, Amy Barritura on. all right. Chad, where do you wanna start? I don't I'm exhausted from all the rugby. ⁓ was so good. Three perfect let's br Chad: Absolutely loved it though. So good. couldn't have Arsenal the the only thing I'm a but annoyed about is that we don't have any international rugby this weekend. Byron: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't even know outside of the curry cup what's happening this weekend. I don't know if there's something else I should be watching. All I know is the curry cup. I haven't even thought any further than Chad: I don't know what I'm gonna do with myself. There is rugby league. Byron: Maybe we should give it a go. It's ⁓ Chad: Yep. I have been watching more and more league. Byron: And how are you how how are you feeling towards it? Chad: I think also a bit sick, so there's gonna be a couple of coughs to this episode. ⁓ The ⁓ I they do. once I've my head around that it's not the same sport Byron: That's okay, we forgive you. I don't, but they do. Yes? Chad: I I I get it, it's okay, it's okay to watch. I'm up to it. The only thing that makes me wanna honestly I don't know throw spuds at children ⁓ the scrum. Byron: Mm-hmm. Okay. Chad: Well it's it's not. It's Byron: Yeah. You could just you could put all of the guys together facing one another and then just kick it back like you normally do and let the game go on because there's no need to fake the scrum. Chad: What? There is no need to do what they it's theatrics. Is all it is. And it upsets me and it makes me angry and it's just pointless. Byron: Yes. Yeah. It is pointless. Okay. Well then let's let's maybe pick one or two games for this weekend to watch start to finish and we can discuss them next week on the show. I'm done. Alright. Then should we just do the curry cup since it was the first week and not much to discuss? so the cup got Chad: I haven't watched a single game and I don't know any of the results. Byron: Okay, so I'll go through the results with you. I too did not watch a single game because there was so much other rugby on to consume. But here we go. Friday, the sharks beat the Pumas 26 24. Should have put a sharks jersey on. Should have. But no, it is late because the box did significantly better than the sharks did. sharks beat the Pumas 26 24. Chad: I should have put my sharks jersey on. 26. I still can. It's not too late. Close one. Byron: Western Province beat the Chikwas twenty five nineteen. Cheetahs beat the Lions twenty nine twenty seven. ⁓ the only game that wasn't close was the last game of the weekend. Burland beat the Blue Bulls twenty four ten. Chad: Was Faf in the squad? Buland beat the Blue Bulls. Byron: Well if you think about it, there's no one left at the Bull Bulls, at the Blue Bulls, because they're all at the Springbox Academy or this the Springbox Alignment Camp. so week, Cheetahs play the Sharks, Lions play the Pumas, Hriquas play the Bulls, and Burland will host the province. And that will be our weekend ⁓ union fixtures since also gonna watch some league. so we got four union fixtures to get hold. Chad: Yes, this is. Yeah, that's Okay. Yeah, okay, cool. Byron: But that's the start of the curry cup. Sharks win, province win, cheetahs win, Burland win. Chad: There we go, yeah. It's it's exciting. And like I said just before the show, I found out literally yesterday that the Curry Cup is on Sky Sports. So I will be lurking around at all hours in the morning watching the Curry Cup now. Which is fantastic. Byron: Be able to watch. Like a creep. Shout out Sky Sports New Zealand. We normally only have bad things to say about you because of chat. so shout out Sky Sports New Zealand for a change. ⁓ all right. Do you want to hop into the under 20 since we've got a little trophy ch to ⁓ about? Chad: Yeah. Yeah. The the the back to back baby bock champions. Byron: Which is crazy to think about it at for that competition because it's basically a new squad every comp. Chad: Yeah. It's how it's how age works. Yeah. Well, now you know. ⁓ did you watch the game? Byron: Thanks, Chad. I was I was unaware before we started the show. Now I know I'm I'm better for it. I watched most of the games. I actually have a question for you about a rule. I don't know if you saw it. Scotland under 20s had a goal line dropout. This was against ⁓ bring me a second. This was the fifth place playoff against Wales. Scotland Wales. First place playoff. Didn't watch it. Alright, then I want to ask your opinion on something. Because it didn't happen. But I'll I'm curious if it does happen. is supposed to happen? Chad: Mm. Then then watch that game. Byron: So give me a second. So Scotland had a goal line dropout. Wales misjudged the kick. It bounced and rolled all the way into the end goal. It stopped about half a meter short of the dead ball line. So if you're Scottish, that's the perfect goal line dropout because now dotted down and Wales get a goal line dropout. So you've basically gone from one end of the field to the other and you're getting the ball back. So for Scotland, couldn't be better. Chad: Mm-hmm. Byron: My question is, and I didn't want to look this up. I wanted to hear from you. What do you think is the best thing, or what do you think is the right thing to happen if you kick the ball dead on the opposite goal line from your from your goal line dropout? Do you get a five meter scrum five meters from where you kicked it? Does the opposite team get a 22 meter dropout? Chad: From your goal line. Byron: Do you just start with a goal line drop? What do you how does that work? Chad: I it's ⁓ fan you just that's a great question. I actually have no idea. Five meter scrum? Byron: I don't know either. I think a five meter scrum to non-kicking team should be the right decision. Yeah. Yeah. But it was crazy to watch because, like, it stopped just before the dead ball. And I was like, that's it. That is the most goal line dropout I've ever seen. Chad: Yeah. So it'll be coming a five meter technic scrub. Yeah. Byron: But yeah, Wales terribly misjudged it, went over all of their heads and just rolled. okay, yeah, I think a five meter scrum is the best, but for anyone watching, if you actually know the real answer, please please let us know. Chad: Ha ha. got me thinking, I don't know, but I'm pretty sure five meter scrum is the right answer. Byron: So too, but I don't know. Maybe I'll give it a Google after this and we'll see what happens. we okay, so we're still under twenties. results-wise, I don't think there's too much to talk about. Maybe we just talk about the two finals. Chad: Yep. The yep. Byron: So third place playoff, New Zealand beat England quite comfortably, forty one twenty six. And then final, France versus South Africa had everything. Chad: What a fun game that was. was a bit worried in the first ⁓ first half. Byron: Sixty eight minutes? I was worried. Chad: no, but I was worried that we didn't score. No, I I I felt like we did a lot better in the second half. I don't know what coach said, but coach sorted them out a bit. I mean our our kicking was not flash, but when we came out, scored that first try in the forty something minutes. ⁓ Byron: No, but look, Ahmed, Yakim Ahmed a fly half in the making. Chad: ⁓ a hundred percent him and I mean everybody speaks about him. our center. Adams, Ethan Adams. Ethan Adams, bro, that man is unreal. Byron: ⁓ yeah, ⁓ who he signed for the Lions, Adams. ⁓ Ethan Adams. W what are the and he's also square. He him and Paul must work out together because the two of them are just rectangles. don't don't know how to describe them. Chad: I think him and Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. I I was saying I was watching with someone else the game with someone else and I was like I do not remember nineteen year olds being built like that. Like I when was playing rugby, not even close. Byron: During the week was SA Schools versus SA Schools A. Which hold on, SA Schools A pulled off the win, which is if you're a part of the SA schools team, you gotta have a look at yourself. But also, those are high school boys, Chad. And I would feel like a child standing next to them. Chad: Watched that game too. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I'm glad you're with that game because that game was so much fun and I watched saw it on YouTube, dude. Byron: Uh-huh. So much fun to watch. It was it was class. And then before that was the the the women's schools, if I'm not mistaken as well, that I caught some of 'cause I started late, but Chad: So much fun to watch. Yeah, I started late on that one too. I didn't didn't get to catch up. Byron: But z if we're talking size of the under twenties, the schoolboys are right up there with them. Chad: Yeah, it's crazy that that's the the machine that's busy feeding us. Byron: Or I wanna know what's feeding them. That's that's what's Chad: Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's rough. Byron: How much puppin' fleece do you need to get to that size? Chad: You know how much brow would must be sacrificed to feed just if you take every single Springbok squad Byron: Team from the schools all the way up to the box. Chad: How much brahmeat and how much I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna say brandy for like the school boys and stuff, but Byron: Well, you know you know. Chad: We've we've all been there. We've been on a rugby camp or two. And how many bars do you think have happened between the the whole women's men schools under seven, all way up? Byron: It's basically a small country's worth of GDP put into just just bras and bra meat. Yeah, exactly. So next time you ask why the tickets are more expensive, just look at the size of them and say, you know how much it takes to feed these boys? Chad: Probably. Yeah. It's probably where the ticket price is all going. It's wild. Byron: okay sorry we keep getting distracted. look where do even start with this game? Great game, tight game, fun game. Result went our way, luckily at the end. But I wanted to say two things about Ahmed quickly. One is he run a 10. He runs like an inside center. Yeah. Brilliant. So aggressive for a 10. But also Chad: Mm. No, right? It's like a center. Yeah. Byron: He's place kicking. Who does it remind you of? Chad: He's place kicking, I don't know. Byron: Mm-hmm. Pat yeah, ⁓ no not Lambey. ⁓ what's his name? Stein, Franz Stein. Chad: Patrick Vanby? You reckon? Short little run up? Byron: Because I don't know if you heard the commentator for this one. wasn't in the final, it was in the the the semi-final. They were talking about how many balls got lost because of Ahmed kicking it over the fence. Because even even if they score right under the poles, he still thumps out of the stadium. ⁓ And penalties was taking, 55 meters, 60 meters. Chad: Didn't know. Yeah. Byron: Sailing over the bar with tons and tons of room still to go. Reminded me a lot of Franz Stein. Because he just he thumps it and it it doesn't even drop by the time it's going over the post from 50 meters. It's still climbing. ⁓ terrifying, terrifying. But what your opinion on ⁓ number tries chalked off by the TMO in that game? Chad: Mm. Frozen. It's still it's still going. Yeah. Dude, the t that that it was r so frustrating to watch. Byron: You never knew what was happening. Chad: No. comes in and he didn't like I don't wanna say ruin. Ruin's hectic, but made it so unenjoyable to watch. Byron: Mm-hmm. 'Cause every try you go, Well, I can't celebrate it 'cause I don't know if it's going to be a try And that literally happened over and over and over and over. Chad: Yeah. How many were there that were overturned? Byron: Without going back and looking at it, I can remember at least four. Chad: Yeah. It feels like there was way more than that, but it was so annoying. Byron: Way more. But the last one is the one I really want to discuss. The one where they said Ahmed jumped over the tackle and the try doesn't stand because he jumped into the tackle. Chad: Mm-hmm. yes. Bro, I'll make Old mate got his ankles That's all that was that wasn't a jump, that was being tackled. Byron: I also want to know how do you jump someone when you're bent over falling forward? You what? Maybe he is the super athlete the TMO thinks he is. And ⁓ of this man can do more than what physics allows. That's the only explanation I can. Chad: Running forward. Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah, nah. It was Byron: Because yeah, his ankles got tackled and he flew over, scored the tribe. But I don't know how you can call that a jump. I don't know how Chad: No. And unless he's got underneath his boots that can propel him. Byron: To to jump falling forward is crazy to me. ⁓ but yeah, the TMO in that one was Chad: Unreal. Yeah. Byron: It it was the thing is he got they did get it right every time they chalked off a try. Chad: Yeah. Does that come down I've got question on that one while we while we're here. Does that come down to Byron: Yeah. Chad: Below average referee. And forcing the TMO to come into the game? Byron: I think that those decisions were so small that if you don't have a TMO you make the call as a ref and you say trial no try, you can't really be mad at the decision because there were such small technical issues. Like the one where they went back, I can't tell you how many phases where the winger had gone out of play and they didn't count the try because his foot went into touch. But if you watch the replay Chad: Yeah. Byron: Does his foot actually go into touch? Because his foot's floating. It is over the line, but I don't know if it touches the ground. So it's I don't know, it's it was very small decisions. I think they were the right decisions. It just sucks when it's you know, four, five, six, seven tries get chalked off. Cause then as a supporter, you're just like, Well, they scored, cool. But let's not celebrate because yeah, let's wait. yeah, that was a that was a bit of a tough one, I think. Chad: ⁓ I thought it did. Yeah. White. It's white. Yeah. Byron: But back to back under twenty champions. Chad: Back to back, yeah. And well deserved. I mean they went to that tournament just absolutely blitzing pretty much everyone. Other than the final. Byron: Well deserved. I think the the look the f and the semifinal, I know the result looked pretty good, but until England got that red card, it wasn't an easy game for the baby box in the semis. Yeah, that red card changed things. Chad: No, no. I don't think we should mix up don't mix up people and easy. Not not the same. Byron: Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Did you see there was that post that said who did it better? And it had Bakes Borta doing that headbutt. I think it was against New Zealand. And then the one from the England under twenties player on ⁓ Guillermo. Chad: ⁓ bro, that headbutt was p Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ that's that was stupid. Like, brother, come on. Byron: Crazy. Yeah. Yeah, especially in a semifinal where you're they were beating us at the time against the baby box. Like I would love to know it was, like what triggered him. Chad: Yeah. I think it was just and I mean you could say the same thing about Bucky's Buerta. Bucky's Buerta did it every game for fun. And in training probably. Byron: Chair, I've been Yeah exactly. Chad: Like Byron: That was it was insane to watch. It was absolutely insane to watch. But it worked out in our favor, so we can't be too upset. Chad: Yeah. Byron: But congratulations to the baby box. Very, very, very awesome to see. And I think I mean Cesro already part of Bulls. inside center coming to the Lions. Chad: I was having a giggle at all of the the commentators saying his name 'cause they pronounced it three different ways in the same Joast, Juiced, Justin. Yeah. It was funny. Three the same commentator said it differently three times. It was fantastic. Byron: Jost. Yeah. Juicer. should we move into Nations Cup or Nations Championship? Chad: let's go nations championship and then into the cup. Byron: Okay. I got a question for you before we even start talking about the results. New Zealand and South Africa, would say, took three very, very, very different approaches to the three games. I think New Zealand played their best available team three weeks in a row. Chad: Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Byron: And the box played three new teams basically three weeks in a row. Now we've got the greatest rivalry coming up. Do you think that the New Zealand approach, which is probably the regular approach, let's get our best boys up and running, throw in a few new players every now and then, and make sure everyone's up to standard? Is that better than going, you know what? We need. Chad: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Byron: 50 players who can play in any position at any time, we need them. What do you think's Because it's two different approaches. Chad: ⁓ I think we're in two different stages of where we are 'cause both we both have the same goal in mind. When I say we I mean South Africa New Zealand, we both want to win the Rugby World Cup, right? We can both agree that. it's difficult to compare to say which one's right. I think for where New Zealand is at the moment, having come from such a fractured team and having a coach pulled sacked, and new coach put in new systems, new everything. Twelve what, eighteen months out of a Rugby World Cup. I think it's probably the right thing for them to do to get together, play together, everything out and get as much game time as we can. For us, we've had what, most of our team for four, four and a half years. Yeah, for some of them. I think it's just different. I think hard to compare. I did have a question for you though. Byron: Nearly eight years at this point. Yeah. Ooh. Chad: Sorry, I didn't really answer your question. But Byron: No, you said it's good for both of them. So yeah, you didn't answer me, but I appreciate your your your effort. Chad: Yeah. No. I think it's just I think it's it's hard you can't it's difficult to compare 'cause we both do Byron: Because we're at different stages of what we need. ⁓ before you answer your before you ask your question, to that point though, one of the commentators said it this weekend as well that I thought was pretty what's her name? dear Lendez on like 98 caps, Creel's on like 99 caps or whatever it is. The way the box are playing, it's gonna be very hard for some players to reach 50 caps or a hundred caps. Chad: Yeah. Mm. Byron: Because, know, if you're looking at the nations championship or rugby championship, which would normally happen, but it's the greatest rivalry this season, you would have players that would play all six for the nations championship, for example. Whereas we've had players only play one, some two, some three. But I it might be very difficult for some players to reach those milestones just because we have such of a different approach and playing such variety of players. So I thought that was an interesting thing to see. We might not have these fifty capped players, a hundred cap players. But they'll have three World Cups. So like what's more important? ⁓ What's your question? Chad: It is yeah. Yeah, I see Yeah, exactly. or four or five or who knows. So I'm kind of jumping ahead here, but we we'll get into the results and everything. New Zealand played arguably one of the like the best games that I've seen them play. I love the way the style that they're playing at the moment. I've said it last week or the week before, whenever I said it. It feels like they're playing that twenty fifteen style of rugby game where it's little kicking compared to the competitors and it's flair in the back line, get the ball out, swing it wide, get it to Will Jordan, let him score. Byron: Who cares? Always get it wide. Geez Louise. Chad: Give it to Will Jordan and let him do his thing. We still play Bach rugby. Kick up and unders. Yes, it's a little bit different, and we have a bit more of that that flair in it. Yeah. do you reckon if you had to take New Zealand that played against Ireland South that played against Wales and put them against each other? Byron: Give it to Caleb Clark. Give it to Yaspovisa, let him run right over you. Chad: n next weekend, who wins that game? Byron: Does it have to be the exact squad that played Wales or can I Chad: Same squads, same teams, same teams. Byron: Look, I think with the exact starting team against Wales, against the starting team against Ireland, I think New Zealand would probably have the upper hand. That's just based off experience. I mean, we had four starters. Chad: Perfect. I agree. I think of the same thing. For debutons. Yeah. Byron: Yeah, yeah, ⁓ starters, yeah, four debutants. Chad: Do you think yeah, we had four ox on the field and we still beat them forty three nil. Byron: Look, Wales is not a serious side at the moment. So t take that with a pinch of salt. Chad: I know. Do you think that Russie is going to do what he's done in this game against New Zealand when they come over? Byron: Yes. Chad: You reckon he's gonna play a team that's got I mean, I don't think we have four four other debutants to whack on, but Byron: No. look, we said it and Russi said it. He doesn't mind losing leading into a World Cup. And know, England, tough competition, good game. We won. Scotland scared us for a little bit, but it all came together. We won. Wales was a training session. ⁓ Chad: That's good to lose. Mm. Yep. Byron: Look, we've played 160 minutes against Wales, and they haven't scored a point against us, and we've put over a hundred on them. And you can argue that. Chad: That is an actual wild step. That is very true. When what was the score last time we played against him? Byron: Seventy three no. And you can argue that this side was weaker than the side that put seventy on there. And I think the conditions played a major role. You heard the commentators talk about the humidity. Even Russi was talking afterwards about how slippery that ball was. I mean, for Creel to knock the ball on three, four times heading into the triline never happens. So I know there's a lot of spring box supporters that are like, we went clinical. we should have put 80 points on them. Bruh. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Forty, what is the final score? Forty forty-three zero against an international tier one nation. You've got nothing to complain about. Yes, we could have done more. Great. But we did all of the right things. The ball didn't stick. think we need to calm down and be very happy with the way things went. Chad: Forty three zero. I think something that's we should be celebrating, but you also raise a good point about that Wales haven't scored against us in two games. But that is that is that is a crazy stat. I love that. I'm all about that. It is the before we play against Scotland, some towards the end of the game there was some real big Byron: Hundred and sixty minutes of rugby. It's crazy. It's stupid stat. Chad: gaps and lots of points scored against us. This week tight I feel like we tightened those defensive lines up. Byron: Hundred percent. Chad: Clearly, no points and our discipline good. I took that out of this game the most. I feel like we did took our medicine from the week before and put it into action. Mm. Byron: Yep. And fixed it. You know, like even the South African commentators, well was commentating is fuck what's name? Yeah, Shims and someone else. They were so harsh, I think, towards the SA side. At the time that I made the note on it, we were twenty six nil up. And Wales weren't the game. Yes, we didn't have seventy points on the board. Chad: And shims. Byron: But we were 26-0 up. And it wasn't the point where it was like, ⁓ we've scored good tries and the game's been interesting. Wales haven't. No. We dominated Wales, all 26-0. But just because we weren't 70 points up, they were saying, we should be doing better. Could we have done better? Sure. But we don't need to ⁓ Do you know what? You know what? Like it was such a shutout that Chad: Yeah. I think Byron: Because we didn't score 70 points and we had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, I don't think there should be this, we should have done better nonsense about it. Take your 43 nil with 43 nil is a wild score. If we beat New Zealand 43 nil, the would lose their minds. Chad: Yeah, cooked. Byron: So I I don't know. I I I I I think sure it would have nice to be it would have been nice to score more, but at the end of the day it doesn't doesn't really matter. I think we did great. Less bitching. Chad: Yeah. Do you know what I I really did feel bad for was the forwards of the Welsh in the scrums. Byron: Okay, I tried I try to watch as closely as possible and I wanna I wanna point out a few things I saw about the South African forwards in in that game against Wales. Number one was Peter Stef DeToy. Okay. When the engage the set happens, I don't know why this is the case, and I don't know if it's voodoo or Chad: Yeah. You should have told me you want to speak about this. I would've got a I would've got a th a clip or something of what you're talking about, but next time. Byron: That's fine. He's got his hand up in the air during the set when it's whales ball. Once ball's in, his hand hits the ground and they start pushing forward. Does that change anything? I have no idea, but he did it every time it was a whale scrum. When it was our scrum, his hand was always on the ground. What that means, what they've changed, I don't ⁓ But if Stef to Toy does it, Chad: It worked. Byron: And we land up mauling them all the way back into the end goal. If you're a flanker, have your hand in the air and then put it on the ground. That's all I'm saying. Chad: That's it's the it's the the the new tech. Hand up, hand down. Byron: That's the secret source. Then the other thing I noticed is the Springbok mall. I don't know if you saw this as well. Normally, when you have the mall form, everyone comes in, the ball gets funneled to the hooker off the line out, and they start pushing forward. The box did something a little different that I'd I'd like to go back and watch the other games to see if they did it or if they only implemented it for this game. Chad: Who Mm. Byron: But the mall would form, it would start rumbling forward. And then one of the forwards from the lineouts would hang back and wouldn't join the mall. Because obviously, if it's within the five and the fifteen, you can't have other players join the mall. This forward would hang back until the mall was properly formed, the ball was funneled to the hooker, and then he'd come running it at 100 miles an hour just Chad: It's Byron: Hit the back of that mall and push the whole thing forward. I don't know where that came from, when it started, but I noticed it against Wales. Chad: I know it's the same thing, but I haven't seen it again again. I didn't think about too much. Byron: No one else is doing it that I could see because obviously after that game was just the England Argentina game and no one did it. But to have someone come in at a hundred miles an hour and hit that mall after it's already formed, it obviously worked because Wales couldn't stop a fucking thing. Chad: Yes. Yeah. No. was that was rough. Byron: And then Carlo Sadi think if you can have him and Zack Porthon scrumming together, there's no way we don't win the scrum. I've never seen anything like it. Chad: Bad. the when they scrummed that one that you were talking about, when they scrummed them over the ⁓ Byron: ⁓ when they had their own five meter scrum. Brother. Brother. Chad: I mean, you gotta give props to to to Wales 'cause they technically didn't give away a penalty. They s they stayed straight. They just went they yeah. Byron: No. They just ran backwards. Chad: But Byron: But if it was Ahmed and they jumped, then it would have been considered jumping because they were in the same position Ahmed was in when they said he jumped over the the tackle. Chad: Mm. Yeah. It's just y it was rough. That one I was genuinely like, do you just go uncontested? Does the ref just say s this is not this is not safe anymore? Byron: Yeah, like as the opposite team, do you say, you know what, we'll take a prop off. We'll play with fourteen men. Just please don't scrum us anymore. Chad: Please. Please, boss. I'm done. It's that insert that meme for ⁓ ⁓ Byron: Also, Yaku Williams on the wing, what a performance on debut. ⁓ my days was he good. Chad: Mm-hmm. Yeah, so good. Mm-hmm. Looked like he'd been there been there before. Byron: was he was brilliant. I thoroughly, thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed his performance. It was great to see. I do wanna go over the other games that happened in that competition. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, while we Yeah, I'll talk about Byron: ⁓ okay, but hold on before we before we end with the box on this nation's champion. Top of the log. I had the point difference up because I thought it was absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, what's the point? It was 96, 93, 81 point difference. Crazy. Three games against two very good sides and Wales. Chad: I've got it here, if I may tell you. Eighty one. Yeah. Two very good sides and whales. Byron, absolute fucking You're the worst. Byron: Brother, you can't tell me. Wales were they didn't even it were they weren't even mentioned that game. It was so one sided. Chad: No. It was rough. And like I think I said this to you the last time that we beat Wales. And I was like, as a team, as a Welsh fan, player, whatever, what do you take from that game? Byron: Resummit is still very, very good. Chad: That's that's one player. Byron: That's it, that's all you gotta take. That and no matter how bad the scrums get, you can still walk backwards. Chad: don't think they were walking backwards. They were being pushed backwards. They were being bullied. And Byron: Brother, it there were b it was it that's a that's a great term for it. They were bullied. Yeah, I don't know what you take from that. As a coach, that's that just that might be one of those things where you come into the change room after the game and you go, Boys, it's over. We don't need to play them again. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. It's we Not not not yet and not for another year. Byron: Not for another year. That's it, you oaks. You can breathe. Don't worry about the scrum nightmares. The game's done. We don't need to play them again. 'Cause it's Chad: Who do they actually play when do they play next? They play against Japan. ⁓ no, that's Byron: Are looking at the round four fixtures or Chad: No, no, I was looking at Wales fixtures in general. Yeah, the next team that the next time they play is in they play Japan. Byron: Saturday, seventh of November. Chad: yeah, yeah, my Sunday. But yeah, you'll Saturday. Byron: Alright, sorry, the there were there were other games for us to talk about. ⁓ New Zealand, Ireland. Chad: Yeah. New Zealand Ireland. Thoughts? Well, of all, result forty twenty one. Byron: Forty twenty one. your opinion about that Ruve Ruben Love tackle in the fifty first minute? Chad: What is that? Byron: The one where you got the yellow card and then not the yellow card. Chad: ⁓ yeah. Just Doesn't matter. Byron: I think I think with the definition the the referees gave, it was the Chad: Was it because it was because something happened before day? Yeah, yeah. I'm with you. Byron: Yeah. I think what the ref said clears it, but I think I still think they missed a beat on that. I still think it should have been a yellow card. Chad: Yeah, there's a little bit of that this weekend though. Byron: But it doesn't change the result of that game, I think. so it's less of a talking point. But if that was a close game and they overturned that yellow. Chad: Yeah, questions would have been ⁓ Byron: But Ruben Love is great. Brilliant. Coming off with that knee injury though must have been a little scary for the rest of New Zealand. Chad: Yeah. I'm sure you'll be fine. I haven't heard or seen anything about it. ⁓ Byron: what I what I did like was the commentator because we spoke about that whole Ireland traveling to Japan but playing in Australia for two weeks in a row. Why do they get the the benefit and bada da da da. The commentator you know, if this is how Ireland is gonna play after resting for a week, they should have just travelled to Japan so they could have an excuse. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. f a hundred percent correct though. Byron: Hundred percent 'cause they look, you said it and it pisses me off that you're right. You said Irish rugby's on the decline, Scottish rugby's on the incline we're gonna start seeing it soon and this these three weeks have proved it. I Scotland beats Ireland if they play tomorrow. Chad: Hundred percent. And I'm will die on that hill. In the Rugby World Cup, Scotland beat Ireland. I have ⁓ Byron: will beat Ireland. I'm with you. I'm with you. I think I think, you know, if Ireland put all their chips into one basket to beat Scotland, maybe they can do that. But then they're fucked for the rest of the tournament. So Chad: When do they when did we say we play them? I forgot. Was it it was in like the the semifinals or the quarterfinals or something? If it's in a quarter final, they've got fuck all chance. They've got not nothing. They've they might as well not play the game. Byron: No chance. I will not show up. Just call it quits already. France beating Japan expected. Chad: I mean The first the first try from Japan is pretty cool. Byron: absolutely exciting. Well, you thought pretty cool. It was amazing. It perfect Japanese rugby. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, it was so so good. And then I had hope. And then after twenty minutes, I didn't have hope anymore. Byron: Look, France are by far the best team in the northern hemisphere. Chad: ⁓ yeah, a hundred percent. There's but who else in the Northern Hemisphere any at this point? It's just France. Byron: It just France is like a real, real threat. If you'd have time to prepare, you can beat Scotland, and England. Chad: We have. Byron: Exactly. Well we beat all of them. So they're they're they're all beatable. but I think there's a big gap. Chad: Yeah. But the the the like it they go on about the n Yeah. ⁓ between France and everyone else, a hundred percent. But I think it kind of shuts down the debate already about northern hemisphere versus southern hemisphere. Byron: Yeah. Yeah. Well, so actually I had this n written down it it kind of combines concepts, but I'm just gonna go for it and bear with me for a second here, Chad. Is it fair to say that in the world rankings and after watching this nation's championship, world number one, Springboks, world number two, all blacks are ahead world number three? Chad: Okay, let me just let me Who's three? It's not Ireland, is it? France? Byron: France. No, it's France, as far as I remember. matter who it is. It ⁓ Chad: ⁓ mil miles ahead is a a big one. I think definitely ahead. Byron: Look, New Zealand beat it's Ireland number three, France number four. We're miles ahead of Ireland at the moment. Chad: T wild. And so is New Zealand. Byron: Yes. okay, so that's point number one to keep in mind. The next thing is we have the greatest rivalry tour coming up. And we've been talking about how much it costs to fund a rugby program built the way that Russ is built this the Springbok camp from top to bottom, bottom up. Do you think because of the ⁓ the gap Class that is currently available between number one and two and everybody else. That if we had a regular rugby championship, it would be a waste, number one. And number two, do you think that they're going to use the greatest rivalry to create an ungodly amount of wealth? Which is why they've included the US game as the fourth game for both programs leading into the World Cup. Chad: I mean, makes sense. Byron: Right? Think about like how much money's gonna be generated in those four games versus the games they would have done during the rugby championship. And you don't have to pay for travel. Chad: Yeah. Well we don't have to. yeah. Byron: Well, no, well, I mean, even from a New Zealand perspective, they don't need to fly to the to Australia. They don't have to fly to Argentina. Sure, they fly here, but then they're set up for four weeks. Well, for three weeks, they all fly to the US or whatever it might be. But I think they're saving money and making way more money doing this. And also, if you want to play anybody and get better, the only team you really want to play at the moment is New Zealand, if you're the Springbok. Chad: Yeah. Mm. Byron: And if you're New Zealand, the only team you really want to play at the moment are the Springboks. Chad: And in South Africa, it's like apparently the grail of places to go and play rugby. Byron: So like if you're New Zealand and South Africa, I feel like this tour's gonna put both sides even further away from everyone else chasing them. Chad: Yeah. Or they're just gonna fuck each other up and there's gonna be no one to play rugby left. Byron: ⁓ Chad, I don't know if you know this, but we've got three full squads and there's four games. Chad: Yeah, he's okay. We'll be okay. New Zealand won't be. Byron: Ha ha ha I can't wait to see how many players need to be flown back and forth due to injury and replacement after these four weeks are done. Chad: I still reckon that during this season so I saw Rico Iwani's been brought back to the squad because he to cover for injury because he wasn't supposed to be able to play. ⁓ I zero doubt in my mind that we'll see Richie Mamonga in South Africa playing because of Byron: Yes. Yes. Or at the very least in the US. Chad: Yeah, in in the tournaments at at some point, even if it's playing against fucking the sharks or whoever they're playing against. Byron: Yeah, 'cause they've got three club or four club games leading into it and during. It's kinda like a like a British and Irish Lions tour. Chad: There's a there's actually there's a there's a few. it's God it this cough. they play they start off with the Stormers on the eighth of August. Then they go the Sharks, then they go the Bulls, then they play the box, then they play the Lions, then they play the Box, then they play the Box, then they play the Box. Byron: Okay, so three club sides. Chad: three to start off with and then one in the middle, yeah. So four. Four up in total. Byron: I'm so so looking forward. But anyway, my whole point is this is really gonna put one and two so much further ahead of Ireland and France in three and four. Chad: Sucks that we to play them in the finals though. ⁓ no not in the actual final, like in we have to knock them out in the semis or whatever. Byron: if South Africa and New Zealand face one another? Chad: Yeah, the only way it doesn't happen is if Australia beat them in stages. Byron: And we had s ⁓ we had hoped for that when we did it like a year ago. As the way things are going. Chad: Yeah, I'd like to do it again. I'd like to do that s exercise again, closer to the tournament. Byron: We'll do it like a week before the World Cup and then compare it to what we did originally and see what happens. okay. Well, now we had our nice little distraction, where were we? Australia thumped Italy. Chad: They remembered out of school. ⁓ Byron: Bruh, how sp leading into this, Italy rugby was on the up and up. Chad: Yeah. And they were dominating scrums, the forwards were doing amazing things. Byron: What happened? Because Chad: Had too many peeronies. I don't know. Byron: They scored 10 points against Japan in the first round. Japan beat them 27 10. Second round, New Zealand beat them 47 17. Which looking back at the results between New Zealand and Italy, Italy did pretty well. and then to lose 57 10 to Australia, brother, We had hope for you, my friends. Chad: Do you know who had a look at this during the game 'cause I was like, I don't remember the last time Australia scored fifty points. Do you want to guess who they scored fifty points against? Byron: Previously? Well the way you're saying it, it's gonna be someone I don't expect. Is it the box? Chad: No, tummy silly button. Byron: England. Okay, who's it? Chad: Whales. So I don't even know if it counts. Byron: Like that doesn't count. Chad: I'll try to get the exact ⁓ yeah. Real rugby. ⁓ to fair, it was a long time ago, very long time ago. ⁓ Byron: We're talking tier one nations here, Chad. Ha ha. Which when whales whales used to be good. They they will be back. It's just fun to make fun of them. Chad: Yeah. I'm just trying to see. I don't have it yet. I don't know. I don't know where it was, but it was in here. Byron: So it's been a minute, is what you're trying to say. Chad: Very long time ago. Byron: Then Fiji Scotland game, at end of the first half I was on Cloud9. Chad: Yeah, I I I to re I watched the game after I knew the result. But yeah. It was fun. Byron: I was like I thought if Fiji might pull it together and then Scotland made their substitutions and it was okay. All right. Yeah. They are a good side. Chad: And then Yeah, how they don't score anything in the second half was Byron: It was the substitutions that Scotland made. They got they got rid of the the the guys they were giving a chance to to bring on the quality and it showed. It showed instantly. Chad: Yeah, Schumann came on and made impact. Byron: ⁓ schoonman had a cracker. School Chad: Yeah, straight off the bat. Byron: then we've already spoke about the box thrashing whales. This Argentina England game Chad: Dude. Byron: Mars it should have been a football match, the way these people were behaving. Chad: Yeah, it was not I was not impressed. Yeah. I mean that is kind of I think you can expect that from Argentina in Argentina. It is always a little bit like Cafe Mayers Doll on a Friday afternoon. Byron: It was fifty cuffs from the first minute. For ways, brother! Chad: I feel like and I'm not having a dig at Angus here, but I feel like ⁓ Angus l lost control of that game. And w and n ⁓ could control nobody could control it. I'm not it's not a it's not an Angus it was just thirty oaks that just uncontrollable Byron: There were portions of that game w he had no control. No. Yeah. It wasn't Angus's fault, exactly. It was just Also the thirty biggest men in the stadium. Yeah. Chad: Yeah. is Like Yeah. And yeah, you go on. I'm skipping towards I'm skipping towards the end of the game already. Byron: ⁓ but ⁓ you go. No, because my I want to talk about the end of the game. And we both wanna do it. Chad: Yeah. Byron: the Argentina comeback was exciting. It was so good to watch. Chad: Bro. Look, I was in two minds about this one because I had a I had a cheeky bet on for the game. Alright. my bet was that England was gonna win. We won, yeah, we got we picked so all of our picks for last two weeks have been ⁓ bot but the Yeah, so the wanted England to win. My wanted Argentina to win. Byron: Which we won, by the way. Mot on. Chad: And I was was fun. It was good. I thought they had it at end there. I feel like Angus got done by the TMO. He got he didn't get the support that he needed. Angus was actually very much saying, I've seen enough, I'm gonna give this as a penalty. And then kinda got spoken out of it and were only focusing on the his the trial. Byron: Talked out of it. Yeah. The trial. Chad: Not what was leading up to it. Yeah, I feel I felt bad for him 'cause then he got s he got shits from the players for one. And then yeah, some fucking Captain Cum Commander in the crowd throws b beers at him and stuff like that. That's that's not on. Byron: Throwing at him. Yeah. Yeah, and then the players surrounding him at the end of the game was rough. Chad: Yeah. Like I get it. I understand. Like from a player's perspective, you obviously playing at home in front of your fans, you're heated, there's a lot going on. Byron: And also to have the comeback trial score against twenty two phases, like there was a lot into it. I agree with you. But ⁓ Chad: Yeah. But you it's there's no place in the game for that. Byron: No, no. That's what we saw in the rugby w in the soccer world cup with Argentina. there's no place for that in in in in rugby. Chad: Yeah. But Byron: Just because you get red cards for shit like that. But put the the fighting aside, put the yellow cards aside, because he gave away so many yellows, all justified in that game. But all justified, that's the thing. You can't you can't say he did you didn't you didn't do it wrong. It was just it was a hard game to referee. Chad: Six or s six, seven? I hate that I just said that. Yeah. How many? Byron: But we spoke about it and I spoke about it as well from myself refereeing a situation like this and then also we've seen it happen in the past where players are tackling or illegally defending their trial line with high shots. And there two shots. on the Argentinian player in the act of scoring that try. Chad: Yep. But yeah, both of them were. Byron: And neither of those high shots were considered in the act of scoring a try. And I think that the biggest letdown of that occurred. Chad: Wild. But Angus was speaking about it and then it kind of just got lost because the the TMO was going on about the the tri. Yeah. And Angus w said I think twice that I've seen enough. And he came back Byron: Exactly. The grounded. Yeah. Because it wasn't a trial. Chad: No, it wasn't a try, but before that was absolutely two high tackles, back to back. Byron: A high shot. Now am of the opinion, and this might piss people off if defender tackles the player either out of bounds or causes the person in the act of scoring the try to not score the try because of a high tackle, should be a penalty try. Chad: Mm. Byron: I don't think it should go back for a penalty five meters away. Chad: You'd have to have a look at the I think it depends on if there's support coming through, like defenders coming through. I think there would have been. I wouldn't agree in that a penalty, definitely a penalty for sure. Byron: For that one, I think I agree with you. I think there was enough English support because he got tackled and there were two other players there. Shouldn't have been a penalty try. Should have been a yellow card for a high tackle and then a penalty to Argentina on the five meter for that one. But I think if if you are the last defender and you give a high shot and the try's not scored either because of a knock on out of bounds. Chad: Yeah. Yep, and a penalty. Yep. And they tap and they score. Byron: Or whatever it might even hold up. But you hit him high, it should be a penalty try. Chad: I agree. Byron: And then if that's the case, there wouldn't have been any sort of discussion that was needed in this play. Because the way if I were the TMO to look at it, Argentina attacker comes in, shot. Is there supporting players? Yes. So it's not a penalty try. Is there a high shot? Yes. It's a yellow card. Done. Then look, is the try scored? No. Perfect. Come back. Five meter, yellow card. And then the game restarts on the penalty. England have twelve players and then we see what happens. And I think it yeah, go ahead. Chad: But That's exactly what should've happened, but it didn't and sorry. Byron: Well, it it's it's it's happened now. This is the third time that I can recall of a very bad blunder since we started recording a show, where it was the TMO that left that let down the on field referee. Which for me is almost the most unacceptable thing. Because, brother, let me tell you, all you gotta do is sit down and watch the replay. That's it. You know the rules and you know what you've got a laptop in front of you. If you don't know the rules, you give it a goog and you get the answer. Yeah. Yeah, but you got. Like I think it's it's it it is I think as the TMO, you should be telling the onfield referee what to look for in the replay. And if the onfield referee disagrees or agrees, perfect. Chad: Yeah. Ask Suri, bring bring Suri up. I think that I agree with that. I think the referee should be the one making all the shots. He can be given the inf pr presented the information and he has to look at the screen via I don't know what he has to do. But look at the evidence and make a decision. Byron: But it should have been Yeah. Unless it's one of those where you mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's one of those that are clear and obvious and you don't want to slow the game down, you can say, Look, I can tell you right now to knock on before the line should be a goal line dropout or whatever it might be. And if you if you want to, I'll show you the the replays, but it's clear and obvious. Then you don't need to go back to the TMO. But if you say, Look, I think he touches it on the line, but because it's an important decision, I'm going to show you the replays, but I think no try. Let the ref make his call. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: And if the ref says, look, where I'm standing, I can't tell. I need you to tell me if it's clear and obvious, then you get the opinion of the TMO. Chad: Did we just fix rugby? Byron: Chad, we fix rugby every week. They just don't watch. Chad: I yet. Record and they will come. Byron: so yes, England lost. I mean England beat Argentina thirty one twenty four. I wanna see if I can find the log on this website to end off the here it is. So France are on top of the Northern Hemisphere, twelve points, Scotland second with eleven, England third with ten, ⁓ Ireland with ten, Wales fifth with five, and Italy at the bottom with zero. Chad: The log four? Mm-hmm. Do wanna give us the points difference for Ireland? Byron: You're such an asshole. have negative ninety four, ⁓ have minus one. Chad: ⁓ still like it's Yeah, but it's Italy. yeah. Byron: Then on the Southern Hemisphere side, the two undefeated teams also winning both games with bonus points. South Africa on fifteen, New Zealand on fifteen. The difference is we have a point difference of plus eighty one and New Zealand have plus fifty one. but we still need to play Italy, so that can change. ⁓ Australia, which is crazy to me, have won only one game but have twelve points. Chad: Real fast. Byron: Which compared to England and Ireland, they've both won two and they only have ten points apiece. So. Chad: Yeah. ⁓ and they arguably should have won their game against Byron: Yeah. Well that's that definitely arguably. I'm glad you added that. Argentina. Actually hold on. How does Australia get to twelve points with one win? Chad: Yeah. But ⁓ they were within I think they got bonus points for scoring tries. ⁓ four four tries and then within seven points. Byron: So that gives you one. Losing Gives you two. So you get two bonus points. Chad: Yep. So two plus two. Byron: Four. Plus five for the win. Chad: Yeah. Byron: need I'm I'm probably v missing something here, but I don't understand how Chad: Yeah, okay. Round one, they played against Ireland. They scored One, two, three, four tries. It's bonus point. And they were within points, so that's two points for that game. Byron: Hold on, this makes more sense. I'm looking at the the table now on the world rugby website, and Australia have eight points. Chad: Sure, it does have eight points. Byron: If you're on the nation's championship website, they've got twelve points. Chad: well that's incorrect boss. I can look I'm looking at eight, sorry. I was look Byron: Well then at eight it makes perfect sense. You don't even need at eight, complaints. I agree with everybody. At twelve, mathematically doesn't make sense. Eight makes perfect sense to me. We move on. So nation championship.com, fix your shit. where were we? Argentina in fourth with seven, Japan in fifth with four, and Fiji with zero. That's it. Chad: Doesn't make sense. Okay. Byron: Then you want to talk about the most e besides the quality of rugby. The Chad: The the real rugby. The absolute the real McCoy. Byron: The most exciting rugby because of how close every single game has been. Chad: Bro, what a I ⁓ low enjoyed this competition more than the the championship. It is Byron: Hundred percent. The only the only caveat to that would be the Springbok games. Chad: Yeah. Byron: For obvious reasons, but in terms of watching rugby, the nation's cup more screen time than anything else. I as as rugby fans, I think like diehard rugby fans need more exposure, and there needs to be more advertising and more money spent in the marketing of the nation's cup. Chad: Hundred percent. Agree. Byron: because the Romania comeback against Samoa to win by one point. Chad: Unreal. Byron: If that if if that was like versus New Zealand, for example, it would be ⁓ would people never stop talking about it. But it happened, it was just Romania versus Samoa, so no one's talking about it. But if you're a fan of rugby, go watch that game because it had everything. Chad: It'd be on T V for months. Yeah. ⁓ the the the the Uruguay Hong Kong China game had me same thing. Last wasn't the last minute, but it was there was what, like the seventy-ninth minute is when it happened. Byron: A another one. But also, Kong China were ahead. And then Uruguay did and then Uruguay pulled ahead to a point where I thought Hong Kong China were not gonna come back to this. And I was wrong, happily. What a game. Final score forty two forty to Hong Kong China. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Right. So so good. I was watching it from bed and I had the the little little guy next to me who was chilling. He I was like shouting and going for Hong Kong China. He got up and left. He was like, You being too noisy. My kid who doesn't shut up and is so loud was like, Nah, ⁓ you stop? Can you calm down? Byron: Brother. The only the only one that was a bit of a a wash was Georgia Chile, which was forty nine twenty two. But then listen to the scores of the other game. Portugal Tonga, thirty two twenty eight. USA this was a bit of a shocker for me. USA Spain twenty nine twelve twenty two. I thought Spain would win that game. Chad: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Byron: And then the heartbreaker of the weekend. Canada twenty three, sables nineteen. Chad: Ugh. Bro. And for the stables to come back from thirty nil down at half time to do that. Byron: What a game. What a game. And also, you know, it even got it even got more difficult for them because they weren't the first to score in the second. Chad: So fun. No. Byron: So that was that was sixteen mil downs. Chad: And it was that try at the end of the first half that I think made Yeah, I was like Byron: That hurt. But also the the the the the for the sables to come in and score that try in the 80th minute just to to not give up. Man, I can't wait to see more of Zimbabwe rugby. I know we talk about it every week. But it's ⁓ it can only get better from here. Man, if please everybody Chad: And the delay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was lecker. It's so fun. Yeah. Byron: When when Chad: And th also that game there was that big there was a big delay in the was it the lightning that happened in that game? Yeah. I blame the lightning. If there wasn't any lightning they would have won. Byron: When when I for ⁓ end of year fixtures of the nations cup I implore everyone ⁓ take time out of their day to watch the the fixtures. It's the same it's it's gonna be the same time as championship, no? Chad: When when is it? Isn't there just three? Is there more? I thought it was Ava. Byron: I hope not, but if you're right, you're right. We'll see. 'Cause there isn't one scheduled for next, so it might be over. But that wouldn't make sense. Six teams per pool, just like the championship you would play the other three teams. Chad: That's what I thought too. I hope I'm wrong. But ⁓ didn't I thought it was finished. Yeah. Same. I also hope I'm Byron: I hope I'm right. I hope you're wrong. We'll see. ⁓ but to to to if that is the end of the competition, one of the groups will have USA on top with 14 points, Chile in second with 10. And this is interesting. Third, fourth, fifth, and sixth all have seven points, but point difference separates them and head to head or whatever it might be. You got Samoa, Tonga, Canada, Canada, and Uruguay at the bottom. Can I Canada? Then in the other group you have Georgia on top with fourteen, Portugal in second with twelve, Spain in third with nine, Romania in fourth with nine, Hong Kong China in fifth with five, and Zimbabwe in sixth with two. What a great competition. We're so happy it happened and I hope it's not over. Chad: I hope it happens every every year. Byron: think that's all the rugby chad. ⁓ the only other thing I had for that Portugal game. If you want to see, remember the it's not as impressive, but the mortar from the 2019 Rugby World Cup, where we mouled Japan like 40 meters. Go watch the Portugal Mortra from the 35th minute. Chad: Think that is all rugby. Also, hmm. We mouled halfway across the field. Yeah. Byron: I'm almost certain it's at least twenty five meters of mauling before the trial scored. Chad: ⁓ yeah. Byron: So go watch the Portugal Maltri, it was so impressive to watch. think that's it. Chad: Think you're out. Byron: An amazing end three weeks of classy international international fixtures. Chad: And now we have to go watch League. Byron: And the curry cup. Chad: And the carry cap, which is Byron: In preparation for the greatest rivalry. Chad: It'd be so fun. Byron: So it's if we thought these three weeks were good. The only thing is we're not gonna have seven AM rugby till nine PM rugby. Chad: I don't think we could handle that amount of cortisol. Byron: Actually I lie. It was seven A. ⁓ to like five AM because of the nation's cup fixtures if you Chad: It was literally from Saturday night through until yeah, all the way through until Sunday, like midday. Byron: For you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's as good as it gets. It's as good as it gets. Chad: It was rough. It was brutal. It it was. Byron: Not for your significant other, but for us it's as good as it gets. Chad: A as as a rugby lover, it's a dream. As as a partner of that, probably not as much. Byron: No. So we want to thank you all for the continued support. We greatly appreciate all the time you put into watching. So please continue to like, share, and subscribe. We want to continue to bring you these chats because it's just two fools talking about rugby. That's all it is. Chad: Is Byron: Think we've cut the cock, Chad? Thank you everybody. Goodbye.