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Lunch with Friends - Caroline Kluttz | The Fittest Master's Woman in the World · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Last week, this woman caused a stir.
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  She won the Masters division at crash,
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  and many questioned,
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  was she in the right division?
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  We're going to talk about it next.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  We have Caroline Klutz in the house today.
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  What's going on?
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  hey not much yeah um i'm super excited
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  to have you on i actually talked to
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  you before crash about coming on the show
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  and then made such a big stir and
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  my co-host carolyn privo made a couple
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  comments that just stirred up the internet
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  and uh so i'm so excited you're here
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  now because we can kind of talk through
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  that and then go into a just a
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  normal conversation
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  Yeah.
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  Sounds good.
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  That's awesome.
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  I love Carolyn.
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  Yeah.
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  And I know she wants a rematch.
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  I know that.
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  Yeah.
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  She should have been at crash, man.
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  She should have been at crash.
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  She was like, I think she was like,
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  she didn't even think about the master's
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  division at crash.
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  And when she saw that you only had
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  like five girls there,
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  like she wanted to be there.
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  Right.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, to be honest,
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  I do remember asking her when we were
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  getting drug tested at the Masters Games.
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  I'm like, hey,
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  you should do Crash Masters.
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  Like, you're going to do it?
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  And she's like, no, you know,
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  I look kind of far away.
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  So, I mean, she does.
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  She'd have to come in for it for
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  sure.
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  It's just an hour and like a fourteen
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  minute drive for me up the street.
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  So it's easier for me to get there.
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  But that would've been awesome to have her
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  there for sure.
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  Yeah,
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  and I would have loved to have seen
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  the rematch,
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  the way you guys went head-to-head at the
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  games.
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  It would have been cool to see part
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  two.
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  And I wonder how she feels like she
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  would have done on those workouts in
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  particular.
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  Cause you know,
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  JR has a certain style of how he
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  programs and over the years of doing JR's
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  competitions,
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  whether team or masters individual,
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  I like his style.
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  I don't necessarily train it all the time,
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  but when I see those workouts,
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  they just excite me.
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  I'm like, yeah,
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  something heavy and weird and odd object.
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  And like,
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  running.
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  I don't know.
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  So it's like,
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  I get excited about those workouts and
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  like,
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  I know they're gonna be hard and I
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  just go into a different, I don't know,
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  zone or something,
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  different gear with them.
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  But I do wonder,
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  I don't know if she mentioned,
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  I didn't see, but if she mentioned like,
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  oh yeah,
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  those have been good workouts for me or,
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  you know.
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  So, you know,
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  she prides herself on being an athlete
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  because she played hockey and soccer and
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  all of the,
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  so she likes the surprise stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  And that was different and new and she
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  can adapt to.
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  Um, now she had,
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  everybody knows she's like a world-class
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  deadlifter.
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  Um, and that is her like home run,
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  but she loves when she's faced with figure
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  this out.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I saw her do some like.
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  Thirty inch box clear overs, you know,
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  when the workout was only twenty four inch
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  for us at crash.
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  So watching her do those, I was like,
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  Ooh, she might.
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  Yeah.
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  She,
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  she'd give me a good raise for sure
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  on those.
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  It would've been cool to see.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, she was there.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I hope, I wish so too.
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  It just would have been an epic battle
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  for you guys.
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  Yeah.
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  So let's talk about it.
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  I see, I think JR's in the chat.
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  It would have been great to have.
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  Yeah.
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  So we prefer the hate is in the
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  house.
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  Yeah.
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  You dominated, not dominate,
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  McKenzie was a really good competition.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But when it came to the end of
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  the weekend,
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  Carolyn was putting you into the elite
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  division with your scores and along the
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  way figured out you would have finished in
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  second.
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  We confirmed that with Tyler.
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  You would have finished second in the
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  individual division.
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  That's the second time in three years you
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  did so well it was comparable to the
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  elites.
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  Were you given the option?
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  Did you want the option?
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  Let's clear that up.
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  yeah that's a good question um i don't
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  know that i was not given the option
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  but it wasn't like an obvious this or
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  that you know um it was more like
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  hey you can do masters crucible again this
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  year because i'd done masters two years
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  ago and two years ago i do remember
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  saying i'm i'm still elite i am still
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  at the elite level i'm not going masters
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  yet like i know i'm in the age
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  bracket but it's like i'm not physically
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  mentally like there yet so i'm just gonna
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  stay elite as long as possible like stay
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  in elite it's my new like
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  like hashtag, whatever, but
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  This year,
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  it was more of a reach out of
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  like, hey, you're going to,
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  this is the dates for Crash Master,
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  like Crucible's coming up.
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  You want to do it?
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  Here's the link.
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  And so with, you know,
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  having the team games and then the age
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  group games and then doing,
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  committing to the WFP team, I was like,
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  you know what?
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  I'm not going to be in like elite.
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  I mean, I'll be in shape,
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  but I'll be run down.
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  I'll be hitting a wall.
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  Like I should just stay in my little
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  category of masters and
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  just do well there and then yeah sure
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  still try to put up some good times
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  for the elite girls because i always like
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  to try to do that um so it
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  it wasn't like a yeah you could do
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  either because then i did approach jr at
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  the comp on the last day i'm like
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  man jr you got me in the wrong
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  division like i want to come out and
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  play when can i come play with the
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  big girls and he's like well you you
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  could have and i was like well i
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  didn't want to do a qualifier coming off
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  of all the stuff i did in august
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  i didn't want to do a qualifier and
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  he's like well you wouldn't have had to
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  because
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  any team podium athlete automatically gets
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  an invite.
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  And I was like,
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  you didn't tell me that.
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  I wasn't aware of those rules.
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  Like,
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  so I think if I had known that
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  and then seeing, you know, you know,
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  the Mayhem girls signed up,
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  team athlete girls signed up,
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  Molly and Zoe.
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  And so it's like, dang,
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  I would have done it if they're doing
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  it.
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  Like they would have encouraged me for
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  sure to,
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  because I still think I'm their age or
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  in their league.
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  Right.
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  So I probably would have maybe pushed to
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  go more into the elite.
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  So it was more of just an assumption
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  that because you reached out and said,
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  hey, we're doing it,
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  you just kind of assumed it was the
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  Masters and didn't even really look at it
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  as an option.
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  And then when you got there,
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  kicking yourself a little bit.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  I already knew I was going to rally
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  or rival some people there,
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  just knowing who was coming.
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  I was like, I'm as good as them.
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  Like,
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  I'm going to put up some times to
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  beat.
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  So I already kind of knew that,
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  but I was –
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  I was comfortable, right.
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  Doing masters versus yeah.
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  Going into the elite.
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  It's like, okay,
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  you gotta get a little uncomfortable.
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  Maybe it's a little more scary.
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  It's less pressure for sure.
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  Cause I already had a lot of pressure
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  on me all through August.
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  So I think I was just maybe choosing
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  the less pressure route.
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  So the big question is you put up
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  these amazing times in the master's
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  division without a lot of push at times,
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  right?
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  Um,
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  do you think up against the elite girls,
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  you would have had,
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  you would have had more push and maybe
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  even put up better times?
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  Yeah, that's the, that's the question.
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  I do think having more of a push.
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  Yes.
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  I would pick up the bar faster.
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  I would transition faster.
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  I'd see she's off on the run.
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  I got to catch her on the run.
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  It would hurt a lot more probably too.
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  Right.
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  Going even a little bit faster.
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  Um,
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  There were some workouts where I was like,
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  yeah, I was hurting.
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  I was kind of max capacity maybe.
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  But then there's some where it's like,
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  that wasn't that hard.
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  Like I'm walking off.
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  I'm fine.
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  So in those cases, I'm like,
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  if I had more of a push the
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  whole way through and not just rounds one
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  and two,
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  because everybody comes out hot in the
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  first round.
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  Right.
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  So it's like.
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  Yes.
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  Having that extra push.
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  I know they're all going to go on
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  broken on the double unders.
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  I got to go on broken.
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  You know, I would have,
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  I think I could have put up faster
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  times for sure.
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  Yes.
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  I,
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  and I thrive off of competition and push.
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  So I think it'd be a yes.
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  So does this give you any differing
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  outlook into the twenty six season?
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  yeah reading some comments it's like you
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  should try to go indie and i'm like
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  well if not now when like yeah i'm
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  only getting older but um the thoughts
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  there but i'm kind of in the works
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  of discussing team opportunities and and
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  then the question is like would you rather
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  you know win a championship title on a
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  team potentially or just make indie games
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  And yeah, just see how it goes.
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  I don't know.
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  Just be there.
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  Right.
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  And just compete, but you're not,
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  you're not going to be,
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  I don't think I'm going to be a
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  top ten athlete at the games.
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  It's different.
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  Like Crash is a local comp.
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  It's a big local comp,
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  but it's not an international comp like
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  the CrossFit Games.
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  So, you know,
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  put me up against those girls.
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  Yeah, I would say it's a mid-major.
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  Yeah.
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  It's not the games,
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  but it's not a local company more either
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  by far, right?
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  For sure.
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  And I kind of compare it to college
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  football.
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  You have your Division I,
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  that's the games,
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  and Rogue and Waterpalooza,
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  and then you have your mid-majors like
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  Crash, Metcon Rush, those types of things,
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  right,
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  that have elevated themselves a little
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  more than a local comp.
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  Yeah.
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  And Jer's done an outstanding job with all
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  of that.
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  For sure.
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  The programming is beyond local comp
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  status.
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  It's just like,
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  it's not international still.
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  I mean, we did,
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  there was one girl that flew in from
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  Norway or something for crash.
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  But other than that, you know,
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  there's really good athletes all around
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  the world.
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  And that's always been the thing with me
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  too.
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  It's like, I know I'm like,
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  good in North Carolina I'm good at my
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  gym my local gym but then I never
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  really knew how do I stack up
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  internationally until I started doing like
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  the Masters games and even just CrossFit
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  games on team and then it's kind of
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  cool to see it's like no like I'm
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  pretty good worldwide like this is this is
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  cool it's like another level unlocked um
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  when you realize you're you're good
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  outside of just your gym too
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  so if people don't realize your team took
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  third at the crossfit games you earned a
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  bronze bronze medal to go with your master
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  silver from last year and your master's
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  gold from this year so now you have
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  a gold a silver and a bronze yeah
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  i got them all you my question to
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  you is do you display them or are
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  they sitting in a drawer somewhere
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  yeah um no i was trying to figure
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  out what to do with them because they
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  are cool um and i did just move
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  into a new house so it's they're packed
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  in a box right now but i do
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  want to get them out and do some
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  kind of like shadow box maybe situation
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  and put it in a garage gym uh
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  but right now they're in they're in a
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  moving box somewhere it's a new house does
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  that mean you're getting a garage gym
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  Uh, no,
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  actually I had a great garage gym at
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  my last house and the ceilings were even
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  high enough to do ring muscle ups and
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  bar muscle ups.
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  And I had it all in there,
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  but to be honest,
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  I didn't use it much.
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  I prefer going, you know,
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  to my local box for sure.
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  Um, but in a bind,
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  it's nice to have a quick, easy,
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  you know,
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  location to be able to work out,
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  but no, I don't have a garage here.
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  I have a shed.
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  Try to get like a barn situation going
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  on.
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  Um,
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  But no,
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  they probably won't go up in there either.
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  They'll probably just stay in a box for
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  a year.
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  Unfortunately.
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  Sorry.
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  Apparently there's been some news that
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  broke as we've been on the show.
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  Semi-final locations and qualifying spots
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  are out Masters too.
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  And leaders already angry.
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  JR says Masters will be in with the
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  Indy and take money for the highest
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  Masters finish and be eligible for Indy
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  prize money, including event wins.
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  waiting for a while.
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  So it sounds like Masters can go to
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  the Indy event,
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  can earn prize money for being the highest
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  finishing Masters athlete,
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  and get prize money for event wins,
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  and possibly qualify for the games.
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  I'm taking a step there,
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  and I'm trying to find the post or
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  whatever I can.
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  Oh, this is for Crucible next year.
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  Oh, crash next year.
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  He must be talking about that.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  He's going to combine it.
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  Yeah.
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  Ah, okay.
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  Oh, okay.
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  So that's kind of what,
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  that's kind of what Carolyn said on our
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  show.
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  Um, so yeah, that's cool.
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  So next year you don't have to make
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  the decision.
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  Yeah.
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  The decision will be made for me for
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  twenty twenty six crucible.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, very cool.
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  Yeah.
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  So talking about something else,
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  the in-person events are announced.
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  I can't pull that up.
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  We can talk about it if you care
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  to.
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  Yeah.
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  The in-person events for the CrossFit
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  Games semifinals.
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  Oh, they're really already up.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  Far East Throwdown is going to be in
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  South Korea.
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  Torium Pro.
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  Europe and Africa are the French Slowdown,
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  Rebel Renegade Games,
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  and Mad Fitness Festival.
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  North America East will have the Mayhem
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  Classic.
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  The Magic City Games.
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  And that is,
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  the Magic City Games is for Masters.
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  Oh, okay.
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  It qualifies three men and three women,
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  thirty five to thirty nine and forty to
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  forty four, two men and two women,
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  forty five to forty nine and fifty fifty
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  four and one man, one woman,
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  fifty five plus.
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  Cool syndicate crown will be back in
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  Knoxville and it's going to have teams
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  this year because three men, three women,
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  three teams.
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  That's awesome.
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  and mayhem's three men three women instead
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  of two from last year north america west
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  legends championship is going to qualify
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  two men two women and then three men
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  and three women thirty five to thirty nine
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  forty to forty four same as magic city
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  yeah so two masters qualifying spots and
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  nor cal classic is back with two men
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  and two women
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  and south america copasaur and latin
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  masters so they're going to qualify
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  masters in south america columbia nice
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  cool that's neat you get so many
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  opportunities to make the games you just
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  travel around all the different places so
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  that'll be nine spots qualified through in
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  person and then what the remaining twenty
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  one online yeah
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  opportunities hot off the press yeah
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  that's awesome is carolyn gonna make a run
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  for uh indy again or she committing to
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  the masters uh my guess is she'll probably
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  try to do both again yeah yeah yeah
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  yeah because you can might as well that's
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  awesome
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  Lita says it's fifteen spots live,
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  fifteen online.
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  I did not see.
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  There must have been a Europe one I
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  missed.
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  Yep.
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  French Throwdown.
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  French Throwdown is doing three.
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  So that's twelve.
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  And Torium Pro is doing three.
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  So it's fifteen.
• 16:45
  Okay.
• 16:46
  Okay.
• 16:49
  I think that's huge for the masters
• 16:50
  community.
• 16:51
  Yeah.
• 16:52
  That is neat.
• 16:53
  Um, to get in person.
• 16:55
  It's a, it's the start of something.
• 16:57
  Yeah.
• 16:58
  Um, yeah,
• 17:01
  we're trying to make the masters matter.
• 17:07
  Uh, JR syndicate,
• 17:08
  the only team qualifier in North America.
• 17:09
  See you in Knoxville.
• 17:11
  Yeah, you will.
• 17:14
  I'll be there.
• 17:17
  So,
• 17:18
  The reason I wanted to have you on
• 17:20
  in the first place,
• 17:20
  and we'll get back into some CrossFit
• 17:22
  stuff, but you're a registered dietitian.
• 17:26
  Yes.
• 17:26
  And you and I,
• 17:27
  after the competition sat down,
• 17:28
  we had a great conversation.
• 17:31
  And I really wanted to talk about that
• 17:33
  some more.
• 17:34
  And...
• 17:36
  my first question to you is what your
• 17:38
  registered dietitian we see nutrition
• 17:40
  stuff everywhere right what is the
• 17:42
  difference between a nutritionist and a
• 17:44
  dietitian oh thank you for asking um well
• 17:48
  dietitians are trying to take back the
• 17:51
  name nutritionist as well so now it's
• 17:54
  labeled as a registered dietitian
• 17:56
  nutritionist rdn um but what rdn or
• 18:01
  dietitian
• 18:03
  is or has to do to get that,
• 18:05
  I guess, certification or label.
• 18:09
  You do have to go through, well,
• 18:11
  now I think they're requiring a master's
• 18:13
  degree.
• 18:14
  in human nutrition.
• 18:15
  And then on top of that,
• 18:16
  you have to go through a national,
• 18:19
  like you have to do clinical rotations in
• 18:21
  a hospital setting, inpatient, outpatient.
• 18:24
  So you have to do like an internship
• 18:26
  essentially.
• 18:27
  So you do rotations in every unit in
• 18:28
  a hospital to get like the medical
• 18:31
  nutrition therapy side of it.
• 18:33
  There's also a bunch of coursework you
• 18:34
  have to take too.
• 18:34
  Like there's a whole like sheet of
• 18:37
  you have to take all these different
• 18:38
  classes and chemistry and organic
• 18:40
  chemistry and medical terminology and
• 18:42
  psychology and all these different courses
• 18:45
  and food science class where you like just
• 18:49
  bake cookies on like
• 18:51
  different colored pans or use different
• 18:52
  colored flour and baking so there's a
• 18:54
  whole like food science side of it too
• 18:56
  of like baking and cooking and being in
• 18:59
  like the food service industry um and then
• 19:01
  the medical side so being a dietitian you
• 19:03
  can be in a different a lot of
• 19:04
  different areas um but there's just a lot
• 19:06
  more education that goes into becoming a
• 19:08
  registered dietitian so after you do all
• 19:09
  your clinical rotations inpatient
• 19:11
  outpatient you then have to sit for a
• 19:13
  national board exam
• 19:16
  um and then if you pass that after
• 19:18
  you've done all the required coursework
• 19:19
  you've done all the internship rotation
• 19:21
  work you've passed the board exam then you
• 19:24
  get your license and then you're licensed
• 19:26
  in you can be licensed in whatever state
• 19:29
  you want but you have to have a
• 19:29
  different license you get a national
• 19:31
  provider identifier number um and then
• 19:34
  you're legally recognized to give
• 19:37
  nutrition advice make create meal plans um
• 19:40
  do all that but
• 19:42
  when you're just like a certification
• 19:44
  online, right?
• 19:45
  Not that that's nothing,
• 19:46
  like you still have to take a course,
• 19:48
  there's some education,
• 19:49
  but it might just be like a week
• 19:50
  long thing, maybe a thousand bucks.
• 19:53
  I don't know what people are paying,
• 19:55
  but not like a four year degree or
• 19:56
  anything in it.
• 19:58
  And they definitely don't give you the
• 19:59
  experience of being an inpatient with,
• 20:03
  you know,
• 20:03
  population working one-on-one with people
• 20:05
  that truly need like medical nutrition
• 20:09
  therapy and help.
• 20:09
  So I think the difference is more like
• 20:11
  there's a medical side to nutrition,
• 20:12
  the dietitians kind of deal with and know
• 20:14
  more about.
• 20:14
  And then there's just the like,
• 20:17
  eat your fruits and vegetables, macros,
• 20:21
  you know, kind of nutrition,
• 20:22
  which is still great.
• 20:23
  And like,
• 20:23
  there's nutrition timing for sports
• 20:26
  nutrition that I think some nutritionists
• 20:28
  that have these online certs through
• 20:30
  precision nutrition or whoever, um,
• 20:32
  know more about timing for nutrition with
• 20:35
  sports than like a dietician does that's
• 20:38
  working in the hospital.
• 20:39
  It's a different knowledge base too,
• 20:41
  you know?
• 20:42
  So I'm not saying it's necessary.
• 20:46
  Beautiful segue to my next question.
• 20:48
  Okay.
• 20:49
  And that is, um,
• 20:51
  as an athlete and someone who is trying
• 20:53
  to get their body to perform at its
• 20:56
  max capacity, um,
• 20:59
  we know that Greg back in the day
• 21:02
  started training MDs in CrossFit as,
• 21:05
  as a way to prevent illness instead of
• 21:09
  being retroactive and trying to get it on
• 21:13
  the backend.
• 21:14
  So for you as a dietitian going through
• 21:17
  school registered dietitian and being an
• 21:20
  athlete, were there,
• 21:21
  were there conflicts to that education and
• 21:24
  what you know as an athlete or did
• 21:27
  it pair up pretty well?
• 21:29
  Oh, that's a good question.
• 21:30
  It was just different.
• 21:31
  Like I didn't learn a ton of sports
• 21:33
  nutrition in school at all.
• 21:37
  And so, yeah, there's,
• 21:39
  there's some things I kind of disagree
• 21:41
  with or like you can choose to get
• 21:43
  your continuing education credits and like
• 21:46
  more integrative nutrition too.
• 21:48
  So if you want to kind of go
• 21:49
  more of like a natural therapy kind of
• 21:51
  route versus the medication side to it
• 21:55
  and,
• 21:57
  um but i would say it's just different
• 22:00
  i don't think there was too much
• 22:01
  conflicting because there's still some
• 22:03
  really good um like nutrition sports
• 22:05
  handbooks written by some dietitians that
• 22:10
  talk about timing of you know doing your
• 22:12
  carbs and protein and amounts and
• 22:14
  electrolytes and that all pretty much
• 22:16
  lines up with
• 22:18
  you know, what we would,
• 22:19
  the basics that you would learn in school
• 22:21
  with nutrient timing and,
• 22:23
  and how much to do based off body
• 22:26
  weight and things like that.
• 22:29
  Yeah.
• 22:29
  Meredith is in the chat and she said,
• 22:32
  so a nutritionist has a medical license.
• 22:34
  I think it's the opposite, right?
• 22:35
  Right.
• 22:36
  Dietitians have a national provider
• 22:39
  identifier number,
• 22:40
  which I guess is a medical license in
• 22:43
  a way.
• 22:44
  I mean,
• 22:44
  I can't dietitians can't prescribe
• 22:47
  medications or GLP ones or anything like
• 22:51
  that.
• 22:53
  How have GLP ones affected your day to
• 22:55
  day?
• 22:57
  Oh, it's a little frustrating.
• 22:59
  Cause you know,
• 23:00
  it's the whole idea is to suppress
• 23:02
  people's appetite and they'll eat less.
• 23:06
  Are you talking about how like me working
• 23:07
  with people on GLP ones?
• 23:08
  Yeah.
• 23:09
  And so my big thing is, um,
• 23:11
  Most people I work with from a weight
• 23:13
  loss standpoint or fat loss standpoint,
• 23:17
  they don't eat a lot.
• 23:18
  They eat one meal a day.
• 23:20
  They're not eating much.
• 23:21
  And so just suppress their appetite
• 23:22
  further.
• 23:22
  What are you going to go to like
• 23:24
  half a meal a day?
• 23:24
  Like that's not going to help you.
• 23:26
  And then they're losing right.
• 23:27
  A lot of muscle mass,
• 23:28
  water weight initially,
• 23:29
  if they get that big drop.
• 23:30
  So obviously you want to,
• 23:33
  you don't want to lose muscle.
• 23:35
  Um, so, um,
• 23:36
  My thing is I encourage people to actually
• 23:38
  eat more,
• 23:39
  just more of the right things that will
• 23:41
  help them maintain and build that lean
• 23:44
  muscle mass,
• 23:44
  that metabolically active tissue that we
• 23:46
  want.
• 23:48
  So it's been a little frustrating because
• 23:49
  people want to go on that and eat
• 23:51
  less,
• 23:51
  even less than they're already eating.
• 23:53
  And I'm trying to get them to actually
• 23:54
  eat a little bit more and eat closer
• 23:56
  to their basal metabolic rate or a little
• 23:58
  bit higher so their metabolism doesn't
• 24:00
  start to slow down and they go into
• 24:01
  conservation mode.
• 24:03
  So I want them and like,
• 24:04
  I want to lower the cortisol because your
• 24:05
  body gets stressed when it's not eating
• 24:07
  enough as well.
• 24:08
  Like that's a stress on your body.
• 24:09
  So trying to get people to kind of
• 24:11
  do the opposite,
• 24:12
  but it does help the GLP ones help
• 24:14
  kind of silence the food chatter.
• 24:17
  So I have several individuals I'm working
• 24:19
  with that are on GLP ones and
• 24:22
  as long as they can acknowledge like the
• 24:23
  food chatter is going to be kind of
• 24:25
  turned off and now we're just eating for
• 24:26
  nutrition and fuel and micronutrients and
• 24:30
  longevity and immune system function.
• 24:33
  Like we're eating for all these benefits.
• 24:35
  Um,
• 24:36
  so we're going to eat the right foods
• 24:37
  that help kind of support those things and
• 24:39
  eat enough.
• 24:39
  And it's almost like, yeah,
• 24:41
  in a way you're kind of force feeding
• 24:43
  yourself to eat,
• 24:44
  but you're forcing yourself the right
• 24:45
  things that are going to be helping your
• 24:46
  metabolism, helping lower cortisol, um,
• 24:49
  Um,
• 24:50
  so it is a little bit of a
• 24:51
  battle,
• 24:51
  but if you can kind of create structure
• 24:53
  to people's eating and like have these,
• 24:55
  I call them like regular established
• 24:57
  eating intervals set throughout the day
• 24:59
  and just kind of just like structure,
• 25:00
  like you would plan your day,
• 25:02
  like you're going to plan your meals,
• 25:03
  plan how much protein you're going to be
• 25:04
  getting in and fiber.
• 25:05
  So at the end of the day,
• 25:06
  you can kind of hit these numbers and
• 25:08
  kind of get you out of that huge
• 25:10
  deficit, um,
• 25:11
  that isn't contributing or benefiting you
• 25:14
  really long-term.
• 25:16
  you ever try to advise people not to
• 25:18
  use the glp ones or do you is
• 25:21
  that out of your purview yeah um not
• 25:27
  really i don't i think initially i was
• 25:30
  kind of against them a lot but i've
• 25:32
  seen some people get some decent results
• 25:34
  on they you know got some side effects
• 25:36
  initially but i can see if if they
• 25:39
  will do the work that i'm telling them
• 25:40
  to do while they're on it and they
• 25:43
  can do it safely and
• 25:45
  then I don't have any major hangups with
• 25:48
  it right now.
• 25:50
  And we don't really know full side effects
• 25:53
  because it's so new.
• 25:54
  Yeah.
• 25:55
  Yeah.
• 25:56
  There is some unknowns for sure.
• 25:59
  Jonathan Ortega,
• 26:00
  my food talks to me often.
• 26:03
  Yes, Jonathan.
• 26:05
  Uh, so train olive asks, uh,
• 26:08
  does Carolyn work in an,
• 26:09
  as an RD in a hospital setting?
• 26:11
  And I know this answer cause we talked
• 26:12
  about it at the age group games.
• 26:16
  What does your,
• 26:17
  you can answer that question.
• 26:18
  And then what does a typical day look
• 26:20
  like for you?
• 26:21
  Okay.
• 26:23
  Um, no,
• 26:23
  I do not work in a hospital setting
• 26:25
  anymore.
• 26:25
  That was a long time ago.
• 26:27
  I did that.
• 26:27
  Um, but now I'm more, um,
• 26:30
  did some like outpatient stuff previously
• 26:32
  like an allergy immunology clinic going
• 26:35
  into an office setting but now currently
• 26:37
  my day-to-day i work hundred percent
• 26:40
  remote and see clients through like zoom
• 26:42
  calls um i do take insurance which is
• 26:45
  helpful for a lot of people um but
• 26:47
  it's all kind of it's all remote so
• 26:50
  a typical day um i'll wake up in
• 26:53
  the morning decently early if i want to
• 26:55
  try to get into the gym first but
• 26:57
  like
• 26:57
  I'll go do my training session for at
• 26:58
  least like an hour, hour and a half,
• 27:00
  come back, log on,
• 27:02
  start taking calls for a few hours,
• 27:04
  maybe three or four hours.
• 27:06
  And then I'll try to have a lunch
• 27:07
  break,
• 27:08
  go back to the gym for maybe another
• 27:10
  hour and a half, maybe two,
• 27:11
  depending on the day.
• 27:12
  And then I'll take some evening calls
• 27:14
  again.
• 27:15
  So I do kind of block my schedule
• 27:16
  and treat my time in the gym as
• 27:19
  work as well,
• 27:20
  because I think this past year has kind
• 27:21
  of
• 27:23
  proven that it is kind of work for
• 27:24
  me i am making money doing crossfit now
• 27:26
  so um i do treat my my days
• 27:30
  as like this is part of my work
• 27:31
  schedule is getting in the gym um and
• 27:33
  then i come back and and take client
• 27:35
  calls from anywhere from like two p.m
• 27:38
  three p.m to like six thirty p.m um
• 27:43
  say i'm just back and forth gym home
• 27:45
  computer please tell me you live close to
• 27:48
  the gym
• 27:49
  I lived closer.
• 27:50
  I'm now like twelve, fifteen minutes away,
• 27:53
  which is close.
• 27:54
  Some people, I think,
• 27:55
  drive a lot further for the gym, right?
• 27:56
  Like thirty minutes.
• 27:57
  So, yeah,
• 27:58
  I'd say fifteen minutes isn't bad, right?
• 28:00
  No, no.
• 28:02
  So that's a pretty busy pack day.
• 28:04
  What do you do?
• 28:05
  What do you do to get away and
• 28:08
  to just have time for yourself?
• 28:11
  Or is that gym time that?
• 28:13
  Yeah, that's a good question.
• 28:15
  I think the gym time can definitely be
• 28:17
  that for me.
• 28:19
  And outside of that,
• 28:21
  I like to use weekends because I don't
• 28:23
  work weekends.
• 28:24
  I never work weekends.
• 28:25
  It's been my rule on Monday through Friday
• 28:27
  kind of person.
• 28:28
  And then Saturday, Sunday,
• 28:29
  like I took a trip up to Boone,
• 28:31
  North Carolina,
• 28:32
  the Blue Ridge mountains nearby just to
• 28:35
  get away and like do something different
• 28:37
  to outside the gym.
• 28:37
  Like go hiking.
• 28:38
  My friend came up,
• 28:38
  we went for a good hour,
• 28:40
  two hour hike.
• 28:41
  That was fun.
• 28:42
  Might drop into a gym there just to,
• 28:44
  see some different faces,
• 28:45
  meet some different people,
• 28:46
  make some new friends.
• 28:47
  And that's always fun too.
• 28:49
  Um,
• 28:49
  so I think taking like weekend trips and
• 28:51
  just taking my weekends off,
• 28:53
  that's kind of my like recharge reset.
• 28:55
  And then I can kind of hit the
• 28:57
  ground running for another week.
• 29:00
  So, so back into,
• 29:02
  to CrossFit a little bit,
• 29:03
  you teamed up with Stevie,
• 29:05
  Stevie with a crash last year,
• 29:08
  you guys finished like first and second
• 29:09
  last year, right at crash.
• 29:11
  So I didn't do crash last year.
• 29:12
  Oh, she won.
• 29:14
  Okay.
• 29:15
  But yeah, I gotcha.
• 29:17
  So I did it the year before one.
• 29:20
  Then I was out of the country or
• 29:22
  went somewhere.
• 29:22
  Couldn't make it.
• 29:23
  So she did it.
• 29:25
  She won.
• 29:25
  And then this year, J.R.
• 29:27
  was trying to pin us against each other.
• 29:30
  And she ended up injuring her wrist pretty
• 29:33
  good right after the team games.
• 29:35
  So we never have actually competed against
• 29:37
  each other.
• 29:39
  And that's going to be a uproar the
• 29:41
  day we do.
• 29:42
  It'll be interesting.
• 29:43
  Is she always going to be your teammate?
• 29:45
  Yeah.
• 29:46
  Teammates for life.
• 29:47
  Yeah.
• 29:47
  Yeah.
• 29:48
  We just, we mesh really well together.
• 29:49
  We balance each other out.
• 29:52
  We're not jealous or competitive with each
• 29:54
  other, which is, you know,
• 29:55
  kind of rare with women.
• 29:57
  So we truly just like want each other
• 29:59
  to do really well.
• 30:01
  And even with like,
• 30:02
  I told someone this the other day going,
• 30:04
  she was originally supposed to do the
• 30:05
  masters CrossFit games and
• 30:07
  And I was super excited.
• 30:08
  I talked her into doing it.
• 30:09
  I'm like, you got to do it.
• 30:10
  Like you won,
• 30:10
  you basically won semifinals for masters.
• 30:12
  Like you're going to win the games and
• 30:13
  I'm going to help you do it.
• 30:14
  Like,
• 30:14
  if you want me to get in between
• 30:16
  you and someone else that you get into
• 30:18
  first and I can take second or third,
• 30:19
  like, I don't care.
• 30:19
  Like, I think you could win the games.
• 30:22
  Like, I don't know if I could,
• 30:23
  but I know you could do it.
• 30:24
  Like I was so pumping her up,
• 30:25
  just like,
• 30:26
  I want you to win the games and
• 30:28
  I'll help you do it.
• 30:29
  Um, so yeah, she's a good teammate,
• 30:33
  good person.
• 30:34
  I love her and I want her to,
• 30:36
  I want her to win.
• 30:38
  I think Carolyn just took down receipts.
• 30:39
  Yeah.
• 30:44
  Um,
• 30:44
  so the reason I asked that is you
• 30:48
  had like Taylor Williamson and Andrea, uh,
• 30:50
  who stayed together as teammates their
• 30:53
  whole career.
• 30:54
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  Because they just got along well,
• 30:56
  they worked together well.
• 30:58
  And, and I, it,
• 30:59
  you and Stevie had this seem to have
• 31:01
  that same vibe, uh,
• 31:02
  yeah for sure i think that's a good
• 31:04
  comparison we're a good kind of dynamic
• 31:06
  duo we balance each other out we get
• 31:09
  along well i've never had an issue with
• 31:11
  stevie anything from something stupid
• 31:14
  petty to anything big like we've never had
• 31:17
  any issues um we can kind of calm
• 31:21
  each other down remind each other what the
• 31:22
  workouts are make sure we're both eating
• 31:25
  good i don't know like yeah we just
• 31:27
  and we
• 31:28
  And I think our strengths and weaknesses
• 31:29
  kind of balance out.
• 31:30
  Like I've always been more of like an
• 31:32
  endurance cardio.
• 31:34
  I can do all the burpees.
• 31:34
  I can do more calories on the bike.
• 31:36
  Like I can push harder on kind of
• 31:37
  those things.
• 31:38
  And then she's had more of the strength
• 31:39
  side.
• 31:39
  Like she's just naturally super strong.
• 31:42
  Doesn't need to wear a belt or lifters
• 31:44
  for anything ever.
• 31:45
  Knee sleeves.
• 31:46
  No, she doesn't do any of that.
• 31:47
  And she's still clean and jerking like two
• 31:49
  forty five snatching one ninety.
• 31:51
  Like she's got a bigger snatch than one
• 31:53
  ninety.
• 31:53
  But yeah.
• 31:55
  She's she's just strong.
• 31:56
  So I always rely on her to like,
• 31:57
  all right, you get those extra like ten,
• 31:58
  fifteen pounds on the lift and I'll do
• 32:00
  what I can, you know,
• 32:00
  on the other stuff.
• 32:03
  So I'm slowly trying to catch up to
• 32:04
  her,
• 32:04
  but she definitely encourages me to just
• 32:05
  like get stronger.
• 32:06
  And she's working on her running and she's
• 32:08
  gotten so much better on those ends, too.
• 32:10
  So we're both trying to like fill our
• 32:12
  little holes.
• 32:13
  But like we do balance each other really
• 32:14
  well and we're both consistent.
• 32:17
  What was your athletic background before
• 32:19
  CrossFit?
• 32:20
  Um,
• 32:21
  I tried to play every single sport I
• 32:23
  could growing up.
• 32:24
  I started with like soccer running out,
• 32:26
  like going the wrong way,
• 32:28
  scoring for the other team.
• 32:29
  But it was just like something running
• 32:30
  around playing something,
• 32:31
  but played soccer.
• 32:33
  And then like middle school was a lot
• 32:36
  of volleyball, basketball, soccer,
• 32:38
  swim team.
• 32:39
  And then high school kind of dwindled down
• 32:42
  to just basketball, volleyball.
• 32:44
  And then I kind of just focused on
• 32:45
  volleyball in my senior year,
• 32:47
  thought about trying to play in college,
• 32:49
  but didn't end up playing.
• 32:50
  I just did some like club volleyball in
• 32:52
  college, but.
• 32:55
  always wanted to just be active and run
• 32:56
  and jump and do all the things try
• 32:59
  everything i told all my friends like if
• 33:01
  you ever go for a walk like call
• 33:02
  me if you want to go hiking call
• 33:03
  me if you want to go swimming let
• 33:04
  me know if you want to go kayaking
• 33:06
  like i'm around so it's like whatever's
• 33:09
  going on if you can be active and
• 33:11
  move and be outside i would want in
• 33:14
  on that bike ride yeah
• 33:16
  yeah, when I was in,
• 33:17
  when I was in high school, I,
• 33:18
  I was a four sport athlete and I
• 33:21
  did every intramural sport.
• 33:22
  Like, cause I just,
• 33:24
  I just wanted to be active when I
• 33:25
  was younger.
• 33:26
  Yeah.
• 33:26
  And, uh,
• 33:28
  When I got to college,
• 33:30
  they had intramurals there.
• 33:31
  And I was like, well,
• 33:32
  I did that in high school.
• 33:32
  I'll do it here.
• 33:33
  And what you don't realize is like the
• 33:36
  people playing intramural sports at
• 33:37
  college are like some of the best people.
• 33:40
  Yeah.
• 33:42
  Like I wrestled intramural in college at a
• 33:46
  college that was top five in the country.
• 33:49
  So the people that didn't make the team
• 33:51
  were really, really good.
• 33:52
  Yeah.
• 33:53
  And I was like pinned in ten seconds.
• 33:57
  Yeah, it's true.
• 33:58
  The intramural sports are no joke at
• 34:00
  college.
• 34:01
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  For sure.
• 34:03
  Yeah.
• 34:04
  We're not,
• 34:04
  we can't all be at Carolyn Prevost level,
• 34:06
  but.
• 34:07
  Right.
• 34:08
  Right.
• 34:09
  Yeah.
• 34:10
  It still amazes me.
• 34:11
  Like she's won.
• 34:13
  Twelve national championships.
• 34:15
  That's insane.
• 34:15
  In five different sports.
• 34:18
  She is an athlete.
• 34:19
  She's a definition of an athlete for sure.
• 34:22
  Yeah.
• 34:23
  Yeah.
• 34:24
  She is amazing.
• 34:24
  So, um,
• 34:27
  can't remember.
• 34:28
  So what, why mayhem?
• 34:31
  Oh, um, well,
• 34:33
  I never really had a coach or followed
• 34:35
  anything in particular.
• 34:37
  Um,
• 34:40
  The person that runs my gym,
• 34:41
  Kevin Steinhaus,
• 34:42
  the Grit House in Charlotte,
• 34:43
  North Carolina.
• 34:44
  He does some good programming, though,
• 34:46
  and he would put together like Grit Train
• 34:48
  for like extra programming.
• 34:49
  So I started following some of that and
• 34:50
  definitely got better.
• 34:52
  He would write weights down that would
• 34:53
  scare me,
• 34:53
  like start cycling the seventy pound
• 34:55
  dumbbell.
• 34:55
  And I was like, what?
• 34:56
  No, I can't do this.
• 34:57
  And now try the eighty pound dumbbell.
• 34:59
  Like he just writes down things that I
• 35:01
  don't think I can do,
• 35:02
  but I know he wouldn't write it if
• 35:03
  he didn't think, you know,
• 35:05
  I could do it.
• 35:06
  so i followed a lot of the stuff
• 35:07
  got got good fast like i got better
• 35:10
  for sure because of his programming and
• 35:12
  his class workouts i would just do class
• 35:14
  and then in twenty twenty two when i
• 35:18
  first went team with stevie she was a
• 35:21
  mayhem um well she had been her gym
• 35:23
  in morganton north carolina has always
• 35:26
  been a mayhem affiliate like follows me in
• 35:29
  programming and
• 35:30
  So her and the other guy on my
• 35:32
  team in two and two were both mayhem
• 35:33
  athletes.
• 35:34
  And so I kind of got exposed a
• 35:35
  little bit there and then we would want
• 35:36
  to share like workouts and what'd you get
• 35:38
  on this and what workout are you doing
• 35:39
  today?
• 35:40
  So she would share some stuff,
• 35:41
  but then not until two and two and
• 35:43
  three,
• 35:43
  when we were at semifinals for team,
• 35:45
  I think that we officially get hooked up.
• 35:48
  I say we, as in like me, Kevin,
• 35:50
  that was on my team at the time,
• 35:51
  the guy, Josh, and then Stevie,
• 35:53
  we got officially in with mayhem through
• 35:55
  Stevie, like making the connection.
• 35:57
  with the people at the booth at the
• 35:58
  semifinals in Orlando.
• 36:00
  And so we're like, hey,
• 36:02
  we'd like to be like a Mayhem team.
• 36:03
  And like,
• 36:03
  if we could come out and train with
• 36:05
  the Mayhem team at least once before the
• 36:07
  games,
• 36:07
  because we qualified for the games in two
• 36:09
  and three.
• 36:10
  So we started getting programming from
• 36:12
  them and then ended up taking a trip
• 36:15
  to Cookeville for a long weekend and
• 36:18
  training against like Angelo.
• 36:19
  And I think it was when Kyra was
• 36:21
  on the team, Kyra, Zoe and Sam.
• 36:25
  So got to go up against them,
• 36:26
  see their training facility,
• 36:27
  which is amazing.
• 36:28
  And so ever since then,
• 36:30
  we've just kind of been locked into
• 36:31
  mayhem.
• 36:32
  And I like,
• 36:34
  I do like the volume that mayhem puts
• 36:36
  out, but you definitely need to be,
• 36:37
  you know,
• 36:37
  volume acclimatized and trained to not
• 36:40
  kill yourself, but, um, it's challenging.
• 36:43
  It's good.
• 36:43
  And then I kind of pick and choose
• 36:45
  pieces.
• 36:45
  I see either from the grit house or
• 36:48
  other people post online,
• 36:49
  a good workout that has ring muscle ups
• 36:51
  and I know I need it.
• 36:52
  So I'll kind of incorporate a little bit
• 36:54
  of that might replace one of the main
• 36:56
  pieces that day, but.
• 36:58
  I think Mayhem does a really good job
• 36:59
  with structuring their programming so they
• 37:02
  kind of get a little bit of everything.
• 37:04
  And there's intention behind their pieces
• 37:06
  and what you're
• 37:08
  focus should be or what your rpe should
• 37:11
  be that day and and how hard you
• 37:13
  should push or how you should break this
• 37:14
  up or what the goal should be to
• 37:16
  break it up and then what you actually
• 37:17
  do you know comes down to the game
• 37:19
  time moment but target times i like to
• 37:21
  have those um so they give you target
• 37:24
  times times to to beat and time caps
• 37:26
  right to stop but
• 37:28
  Yeah.
• 37:28
  Name's been good in there and they're just
• 37:30
  good to their athletes too.
• 37:31
  Like every semifinal I've been to or
• 37:34
  games,
• 37:34
  they put together like a little package
• 37:36
  for you of stuff and just make you
• 37:38
  feel special.
• 37:38
  And then.
• 37:39
  hey,
• 37:39
  we're here for you if you need coaching
• 37:40
  strategies.
• 37:42
  Here's some gummy bears and like Rice
• 37:43
  Krispie treats.
• 37:44
  Like make sure you're eating carbs.
• 37:45
  And here's like this year at the Masters
• 37:47
  Games, you know,
• 37:48
  they had a little cold plunge pool and
• 37:50
  the Norma Tech like compression boots and
• 37:52
  a whole recovery lounge for their
• 37:55
  athletes.
• 37:55
  So they do, they make you feel special,
• 37:57
  give you some cool stuff.
• 38:00
  So they've been really good.
• 38:01
  I can't compare them to anybody else.
• 38:02
  I haven't really, like I said,
• 38:03
  never really had a coach or another,
• 38:06
  camp that I was going under,
• 38:07
  but I've really enjoyed working with
• 38:08
  mayhem and I'm all mayhem now.
• 38:12
  I know you found CrossFit through a
• 38:14
  Groupon.
• 38:14
  Oh yeah.
• 38:15
  Which is not, it's not a weird story.
• 38:18
  I've heard it a handful of times.
• 38:20
  Right.
• 38:21
  But it,
• 38:22
  it took you a long time from graduating
• 38:25
  high school,
• 38:26
  being a volleyball player and playing club
• 38:27
  sport to the CrossFit time.
• 38:30
  What were you doing in the,
• 38:31
  in the space in between?
• 38:32
  Yeah.
• 38:32
  Yeah.
• 38:33
  I was going to a regular gym,
• 38:37
  like a Planet Fit, not a Planet Fitness,
• 38:39
  but something like a regular gym and kind
• 38:41
  of got into like the idea I wanted
• 38:43
  to do bodybuilding and maybe do a show.
• 38:46
  But then I was like,
• 38:48
  I don't want to walk around on a
• 38:49
  stage in heels and a bikini and flex
• 38:51
  my muscles.
• 38:52
  Like that sounds terrible.
• 38:53
  I don't really want to do that,
• 38:54
  but I want to look like I'm a
• 38:55
  bodybuilder.
• 38:56
  I want to like get that physique and
• 38:57
  like look good.
• 38:58
  And then I realized you're just like in
• 39:00
  the gym for hours,
• 39:01
  just doing like boring super sets of
• 39:03
  things and eating like chicken rice and
• 39:05
  broccoli.
• 39:06
  I'm like, this isn't fun.
• 39:08
  And so I would try to throw in
• 39:09
  like,
• 39:10
  burpees and then i'd go over new bench
• 39:12
  press and then i'd do deadlifts and then
• 39:14
  i would do some wall balls or then
• 39:16
  i would try to do a handstand like
• 39:17
  so i was just doing some random stuff
• 39:20
  for all through grad school so another
• 39:22
  like four years and i think towards the
• 39:24
  end of grad school um
• 39:27
  I've had people ask me, like,
• 39:28
  what box do you go to?
• 39:29
  I'm like, what's a box?
• 39:30
  And they're like, CrossFit.
• 39:31
  Where do you go to?
• 39:32
  Where do you do CrossFit?
• 39:33
  Like, I don't do CrossFit.
• 39:35
  But I think I already was starting to
• 39:36
  kind of build that, like,
• 39:37
  physique of maybe a CrossFit athlete.
• 39:38
  I don't know.
• 39:39
  So I was like, no,
• 39:40
  I don't really know what CrossFit is.
• 39:42
  I don't do that.
• 39:43
  That's a cult.
• 39:44
  Yeah.
• 39:45
  So then,
• 39:46
  but then I found that Groupon and there
• 39:49
  was a guy that I was interested in
• 39:52
  getting to know and he went to this
• 39:54
  CrossFit gym, right?
• 39:55
  So I was like, oh,
• 39:56
  I'm going to go do CrossFit.
• 39:57
  Yeah.
• 39:58
  So I bought that Groupon,
• 39:59
  went every day that month,
• 40:01
  ended up really liking it and realizing
• 40:02
  that there's skills that you can build on
• 40:04
  it.
• 40:04
  So it's not as boring.
• 40:05
  It's just like going into a gym,
• 40:07
  kind of doing the same routine,
• 40:08
  tricep extensions, bicep curl,
• 40:09
  whatever it is,
• 40:10
  but like
• 40:11
  had more of a focus on like you
• 40:13
  can get better and more efficient and like
• 40:14
  learn these skills i had no idea how
• 40:16
  to do a handstand push-up or kip or
• 40:19
  olympic lift like yeah it was a lot
• 40:22
  of new stuff for me i'm watching some
• 40:23
  old videos and just laughing at some of
• 40:27
  the form you know things that you you
• 40:28
  did back then but yeah so in between
• 40:31
  there's just going i'd still go to the
• 40:32
  gym every day for about an hour to
• 40:34
  two um
• 40:37
  and then yeah i would play volleyball on
• 40:39
  the weekends with friends pickleball
• 40:41
  whatever group almost saving lives back in
• 40:44
  the day for sure it still is actually
• 40:47
  yeah um so you're back to your dietitian
• 40:53
  nutrition yeah bodybuilding is awful about
• 40:57
  nutrition yeah like
• 41:00
  I worked security for the Arnold and my
• 41:03
  job was to escort the physique models from
• 41:07
  the dressing room area to the stage.
• 41:10
  They're so dehydrated.
• 41:13
  They don't even know what direction
• 41:15
  they're walking in.
• 41:17
  It's like herding cats.
• 41:19
  Yeah, that's awful.
• 41:20
  And I realized that quickly.
• 41:21
  I'm like, this is not for me.
• 41:23
  I don't want to be...
• 41:25
  Yeah.
• 41:26
  Sick, dehydrated, malnourished,
• 41:29
  micronutrient deficient.
• 41:30
  So with CrossFit, I realized like, hey,
• 41:32
  I'm eating for performance now.
• 41:34
  And I mean, for fuel.
• 41:35
  I mean,
• 41:35
  for my health and eating to feel good.
• 41:38
  And that's a whole different way of
• 41:39
  eating.
• 41:40
  Yeah.
• 41:40
  Then bodybuilding and eating for
• 41:42
  aesthetic.
• 41:43
  I mean,
• 41:43
  I have a better physique and aesthetics
• 41:46
  than I ever did trying to do bodybuilding.
• 41:48
  by just fueling performance and putting in
• 41:50
  like giving myself enough energy to put in
• 41:52
  hard enough work to get the results I
• 41:55
  want in my physique, if that makes sense,
• 41:58
  which is much more freeing and enjoyable
• 42:01
  way to live.
• 42:02
  So about the gummy bears and the rice
• 42:05
  crispy treats, is there any, like,
• 42:08
  do you think that's a necessity as an
• 42:10
  athlete or do you see some pieces of
• 42:14
  that that aren't necessarily good?
• 42:16
  Yeah.
• 42:17
  Yeah, that's a great question.
• 42:20
  I don't think it is a necessity.
• 42:22
  Um, well, as an athlete,
• 42:25
  I think it depends on what level you're
• 42:27
  competing at, right?
• 42:28
  Like if you're just trying to get in
• 42:30
  quick carbs after an event to recover for
• 42:33
  another event, that's where like,
• 42:35
  you know,
• 42:35
  scooping dextrose powders with some like
• 42:39
  whey protein, getting it in,
• 42:40
  just getting it in quick for recovery,
• 42:43
  muscle cells, like absorbing all that.
• 42:45
  Um,
• 42:46
  and that's where the idea of like, yeah,
• 42:48
  gummy bears and rice crispy treats come in
• 42:51
  just to immediately get those carbs in.
• 42:52
  Cause it's harder to sit there and eat
• 42:53
  a sweet potato and wild rice and quinoa
• 42:55
  and like the things that you should be
• 42:57
  eating the other, the other, the other,
• 42:58
  the other, the other, the other,
• 42:59
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:00
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:01
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:02
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:02
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:04
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:04
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:05
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:06
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:07
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:08
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:09
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:11
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:12
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:13
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:14
  the other, the other, the other,
• 43:14
  the other, the other,
• 43:15
  the
• 43:17
  I guess this year I did do more
• 43:19
  gummies,
• 43:20
  like right before going out to stuff.
• 43:23
  But I would do just like...
• 43:24
  Before anybody clicks that,
• 43:25
  she means the natural,
• 43:27
  just the regular gummies.
• 43:29
  Yeah.
• 43:29
  Like for carbs.
• 43:30
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:31
  Yeah.
• 43:32
  Not like the... Yeah.
• 43:34
  People are getting bought for.
• 43:36
  No, I wouldn't do those.
• 43:38
  But I would do just like rice cakes
• 43:39
  and a banana and...
• 43:43
  fig fig newton bar kind of situations so
• 43:46
  things that seem like a little more
• 43:49
  nourishing than just gummy bears and
• 43:51
  pure sugar, drinking sugar.
• 43:53
  But now I am realizing like it is
• 43:56
  necessary for me at my level to recover
• 43:58
  quicker and feel better faster and not hit
• 44:02
  a wall.
• 44:03
  Sometimes I'm just drinking sugar.
• 44:05
  Now I mix it.
• 44:06
  I'm starting to get into some like first
• 44:08
  form supplements that have like the
• 44:10
  electrolytes and carbs in one.
• 44:13
  And that definitely helps.
• 44:14
  You can tell a difference in a workout
• 44:15
  for sure.
• 44:18
  CrossFit.
• 44:19
  God, I love Fig Newton's.
• 44:20
  Yeah, they're underrated.
• 44:22
  Nobody talks about them.
• 44:24
  Top five sweet things in my life.
• 44:27
  If I need something sweet,
• 44:28
  I want a Fig Newton.
• 44:29
  Yeah.
• 44:30
  And I probably only buy them once every
• 44:32
  two years.
• 44:34
  Yeah.
• 44:34
  They're out there, though.
• 44:35
  Just go get one.
• 44:36
  Go get you some.
• 44:40
  I have some follow-ups,
• 44:40
  but I want to train Olive.
• 44:42
  With double sessions,
• 44:44
  does Caroline track macros or have daily
• 44:46
  calorie goals?
• 44:47
  Yeah, I do.
• 44:49
  I like to track.
• 44:51
  I'm a tracker.
• 44:52
  Um, and it does,
• 44:53
  I mostly track to make sure I'm eating
• 44:54
  enough.
• 44:56
  Cause that is,
• 44:56
  that becomes the issue for me is,
• 44:58
  am I feeling myself enough?
• 45:00
  Um,
• 45:01
  and getting in enough before the training
• 45:02
  session.
• 45:03
  Cause like I've bonked and workouts and
• 45:05
  hit walls way too soon.
• 45:06
  And it is miserable trying to finish a
• 45:08
  workout when you've hit a wall.
• 45:10
  Um, and it's,
• 45:11
  it's been because of under fueling for me.
• 45:14
  So I do like to track and, um,
• 45:18
  I'll do a plug for the app I
• 45:19
  like.
• 45:19
  It's not MyFitnessPal,
• 45:21
  but there's a great tracking app that I
• 45:23
  kind of convert everybody to and a lot
• 45:24
  of my clients to called Cronometer.
• 45:25
  It's C-R-O-N-O-M-E-T-E-R.
• 45:29
  And their free version is great.
• 45:31
  They have the scanning function on there
• 45:33
  that I think MyFitnessPal now charges for.
• 45:35
  So the free one's good.
• 45:36
  There's just some ads,
• 45:37
  but outside of just macros, protein,
• 45:40
  carbs, fats, right?
• 45:41
  You can,
• 45:42
  they do a really good job with their
• 45:43
  micronutrient breakdown.
• 45:45
  So you can see if you're getting all
• 45:46
  the different vitamins and minerals you
• 45:48
  need.
• 45:48
  If you're hitting your fiber goal,
• 45:49
  calcium, zinc, iron, B vitamins, I mean,
• 45:53
  literally everything.
• 45:53
  And then even from the protein section,
• 45:55
  they make sure you're hitting all the
• 45:57
  different amino acids.
• 45:58
  So you can see if you're hitting the
• 45:59
  essential amino acids and you're getting
• 46:01
  the ones that contribute,
• 46:01
  you're getting enough leucine, isoleucine,
• 46:03
  valine.
• 46:04
  that contribute towards like muscle
• 46:05
  building whatever your goals are um so
• 46:08
  that's cool to see especially if you're
• 46:09
  more maybe like plant-based and you think
• 46:11
  you're getting enough protein in but then
• 46:12
  you
• 46:13
  scan your foods in for the day and
• 46:14
  you enter everything in at the end of
• 46:15
  the day it tracks it for you right
• 46:17
  and you can see you're not getting all
• 46:18
  your essential amino acids in um so it's
• 46:21
  just it's a cool tool to be able
• 46:23
  to use it doesn't have to be forever
• 46:25
  but if you have a specific thing you're
• 46:27
  training for or trying to a specific goal
• 46:29
  that you're trying to reach or just to
• 46:31
  optimize your health you can see trends to
• 46:34
  and get like weekly averages of oh i'm
• 46:36
  I'm really low in zinc all the time
• 46:38
  and vitamin C so it's like okay let's
• 46:40
  focus on some foods that are high in
• 46:41
  zinc and vitamin C or maybe you need
• 46:43
  to get a supplement um so I think
• 46:45
  it's it's really useful and I'm I nerd
• 46:47
  out on it so at the end of
• 46:48
  the day I like to see what am
• 46:49
  I you know what did I miss oh
• 46:51
  I got in that you can scan supplements
• 46:53
  in so if I'm taking my vitamin D
• 46:55
  supplement and K-two right it's like all
• 46:57
  right I'm gonna log that make sure that
• 46:59
  that bar is green now instead of being
• 47:01
  empty so
• 47:02
  I do track long, long answer to that,
• 47:05
  but I like tracking.
• 47:06
  It's helpful.
• 47:07
  And I feel better when I do it.
• 47:13
  Back on the Fig Newton.
• 47:14
  Is it a cookie, a cake?
• 47:16
  Who knows?
• 47:16
  Fig Newtons.
• 47:18
  Who cares?
• 47:18
  Yeah.
• 47:19
  Who cares?
• 47:19
  It's good.
• 47:22
  So follow up I had for you is.
• 47:25
  So I,
• 47:26
  I started CrossFit at five hundred and
• 47:28
  thirty pounds.
• 47:30
  I get down to two hundred sixty.
• 47:33
  And I'm loving life,
• 47:34
  but I was feeling like lethargic in the
• 47:37
  gym.
• 47:39
  And then I'm watching all these videos.
• 47:41
  I'm a nerd.
• 47:42
  I'm geeking out, watching Rich Froning,
• 47:44
  watching Matt Fraser, all the stuff.
• 47:48
  And you see them eating in a way
• 47:51
  that's not really designed for someone
• 47:53
  like me.
• 47:54
  Right.
• 47:55
  And so you think at the time, well,
• 47:57
  they're a CrossFitter.
• 47:58
  I'm a CrossFitter.
• 48:00
  I should do what they're doing.
• 48:01
  And then everything gets out of whack.
• 48:04
  And then I get injured and now I'm
• 48:06
  not able to work out like I was.
• 48:08
  And everything kind of blows up in my
• 48:11
  face.
• 48:12
  What do you,
• 48:13
  do you work with other CrossFitters that
• 48:15
  like go through things like this or,
• 48:17
  or are you pretty much just general pop?
• 48:22
  Um,
• 48:23
  I would say actually now I am maybe
• 48:25
  fifty percent of my clients are CrossFit
• 48:28
  CrossFitters or go to a local CrossFit gym
• 48:31
  here in Charlotte.
• 48:32
  Like I'm almost seeing the entire gym,
• 48:34
  which is awesome.
• 48:35
  Just like word of mouth.
• 48:36
  And so I'm helping them.
• 48:37
  But like your situation is.
• 48:40
  yeah that's that's tough because yeah
• 48:42
  you're looking up to these people and you
• 48:44
  want to be like them and like compete
• 48:46
  like them and look like them and you
• 48:48
  see them eating pizzas and things like
• 48:49
  that which i understand like post-comp you
• 48:52
  want to have like a cheat meal right
• 48:53
  because you've been eating good maybe
• 48:56
  fueling for the the you know training days
• 48:58
  leading up um and so that's fine to
• 49:00
  do in moderation like maybe you know one
• 49:02
  night after your comp but
• 49:04
  Yeah,
• 49:04
  that's not the way that the general
• 49:07
  workout population should be eating on a
• 49:12
  regular basis, at least, right?
• 49:14
  But I am an advocate of all things
• 49:15
  in moderation.
• 49:18
  But as long as you're hitting,
• 49:19
  there's certain things I'm like,
• 49:20
  if you can hit your protein goal and
• 49:22
  your fiber goal and your fluid goal,
• 49:24
  enjoy a piece of pizza.
• 49:25
  As long as you're hitting the goals I'm
• 49:27
  giving you that you need to be filling
• 49:29
  up and eating these things and eating
• 49:30
  enough.
• 49:31
  And if you're still craving crappy foods
• 49:33
  and junk foods, then sure.
• 49:35
  But the idea behind a lot of what
• 49:37
  I think I preach is...
• 49:41
  You're going to be so full on protein
• 49:43
  and fiber and fluids and eating the good
• 49:45
  foods and some fruits and vegetables and
• 49:47
  some whole grains and lean proteins,
• 49:50
  nuts and seeds,
• 49:50
  all the stuff and make it in a
• 49:52
  health,
• 49:53
  like a way that you enjoy eating it
• 49:54
  too.
• 49:54
  Not just like,
• 49:55
  I feel like you're eating cardboard,
• 49:56
  but you're gonna be so full on eating
• 49:58
  enough calories and protein that you're
• 50:02
  You're going to maybe still crave some
• 50:04
  junk food or something.
• 50:05
  Maybe it's there, but you're like,
• 50:06
  not right now.
• 50:07
  Like, I'm too full right now.
• 50:08
  I'm going to revisit the thought of coming
• 50:10
  back and getting that slice of pie in
• 50:11
  like an hour.
• 50:12
  So then an hour comes and goes and
• 50:14
  maybe you don't even think about it again
• 50:15
  or you don't want it.
• 50:16
  And then your next meal happens.
• 50:18
  And again,
• 50:18
  you fill up on the good stuff and
• 50:19
  you're full.
• 50:20
  So it's like, ah, dang it.
• 50:22
  I'm still wanting that pie,
• 50:23
  but I'm going to come back.
• 50:24
  I'm too full right now.
• 50:25
  So I don't know if that makes sense,
• 50:27
  but that's kind of the way I want
• 50:29
  people to kind of view it.
• 50:30
  And then still,
• 50:30
  if you want that slice of pie,
• 50:32
  then have the slice of pie and then
• 50:34
  move on and reset for the next meal
• 50:36
  and make good choices.
• 50:39
  The latest debate in the CrossFit space
• 50:42
  around nutrition is the quality of the
• 50:45
  calories you're taking in.
• 50:47
  You know, there are people that are like,
• 50:49
  no matter what you do, it's calories in,
• 50:50
  calories out.
• 50:50
  That's it.
• 50:52
  And I've heard Dave Castro fight against
• 50:54
  it.
• 50:54
  I've heard the people at CrossFit HQ that
• 50:57
  are like the nutritionists and then deal
• 51:01
  with this all the time,
• 51:02
  that it's not just calories in,
• 51:03
  calories out.
• 51:04
  You want to look at the quality of
• 51:05
  the calories you're putting in.
• 51:08
  So your thoughts on that?
• 51:10
  Yeah.
• 51:10
  So that's why I'm a big fan of
• 51:12
  micronutrient tracking.
• 51:14
  And a lot of people I've worked with
• 51:16
  are kind of like, wow,
• 51:17
  I've never really done that before.
• 51:18
  I've only ever looked at like calories and
• 51:20
  macros.
• 51:22
  And if it fits your macros, right,
• 51:24
  you can eat it.
• 51:26
  But
• 51:28
  I like to look at the micronutrients being
• 51:30
  fiber,
• 51:30
  different vitamins and minerals as well,
• 51:33
  calcium.
• 51:33
  Like, are you getting those things in?
• 51:35
  And if you're not,
• 51:36
  then your diet is crap.
• 51:37
  Like you need to be getting all these
• 51:39
  vitamins and minerals through food.
• 51:41
  So that to me is showing if you're
• 51:44
  not, you're not making the right choices,
• 51:46
  even though the macros fit and the
• 51:47
  calories are making sense for your goal,
• 51:50
  you're not getting the micronutrients.
• 51:52
  So therefore like the foods you're
• 51:53
  choosing,
• 51:54
  we need to swap those out for more
• 51:56
  nutrient dense foods.
• 51:58
  So yeah,
• 51:59
  I'm a hundred percent on board with the
• 52:00
  quality.
• 52:00
  And I think that's been ignored for a
• 52:02
  long time.
• 52:04
  So I'm glad that that's a new focus
• 52:06
  for everybody.
• 52:09
  And early on CrossFit kind of endorsed the
• 52:12
  zone.
• 52:13
  And in the zone,
• 52:14
  it was just about your blocks, right?
• 52:17
  No matter how you got the blocks together.
• 52:20
  Right.
• 52:20
  It didn't matter how,
• 52:22
  just that they did fit together.
• 52:24
  Yeah.
• 52:24
  And I think that's carried over for a
• 52:26
  very long time.
• 52:27
  Yeah.
• 52:27
  Yeah.
• 52:29
  For sure.
• 52:31
  Train Olive.
• 52:32
  And I know it says train to live,
• 52:33
  but we make fun of it.
• 52:34
  So it's train Olive.
• 52:36
  I was reading it as Olive every time.
• 52:39
  What insurance does Caroline take?
• 52:42
  Like all of them.
• 52:44
  Blue Cross, Anthem, Cigna, United.
• 52:49
  Let's see other ones.
• 52:51
  I think there's definitely a couple more.
• 52:53
  But if you want to check to see
• 52:55
  if your insurance covers visits with me,
• 52:57
  I know on my Instagram,
• 52:59
  I have the link somewhere.
• 53:02
  I think it's on my bio.
• 53:05
  So my Instagram's crclips.
• 53:08
  Oh, you don't have me.
• 53:09
  I'm a little hashed.
• 53:10
  I'm a little app.
• 53:14
  Yeah.
• 53:14
  So if you go to, Oh, maybe the,
• 53:19
  the two more,
• 53:20
  the wellfield.fit and two more,
• 53:23
  it'd be book your nutrition session here.
• 53:26
  When you click that,
• 53:27
  it should pull up my little bio and
• 53:30
  picture of me.
• 53:30
  And then there's a section you can put
• 53:32
  your insurance info,
• 53:33
  your card and your insurance info,
• 53:34
  and then it'll spit out.
• 53:36
  Stop and then reshare.
• 53:38
  Okay.
• 53:38
  Get up the show.
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:41
  That's the link you would want to use.
• 53:44
  And then you can, yeah,
• 53:46
  get your price is probably what you would
• 53:47
  want to click on the left under my
• 53:49
  little picture.
• 53:51
  And then that's where you can put in
• 53:53
  insurance company member ID.
• 53:54
  Yeah.
• 53:54
  All that.
• 53:55
  And then it'll give you an estimated,
• 53:56
  your sessions are a hundred percent
• 53:58
  covered or you might owe twenty five
• 53:59
  dollars.
• 54:00
  And there's a list of, well, you can't,
• 54:03
  it's not showing the drop down,
• 54:05
  but it is a long list of insurance
• 54:06
  companies.
• 54:08
  Yeah, and actually,
• 54:08
  I can tell you exactly.
• 54:09
  I have a list here.
• 54:14
  If I can pull it up.
• 54:15
  I can read them.
• 54:15
  Aetna, Allianthem, Blue Care Network,
• 54:17
  Blue Cross, Blue Cross, Blue Shield,
• 54:20
  Blue Shield, Care First, Cash Pay, Cigna,
• 54:23
  Empire, Florida Blue, Golden Rule,
• 54:26
  Highmark, Horizon, Humana, Independence,
• 54:30
  Blue Cross, Kaiser, Optum, Oxford,
• 54:34
  Regence, Blue Cross, Blue Shield,
• 54:37
  Select Health, UnitedHealthcare,
• 54:38
  United Medical Resources, and that's it.
• 54:41
  Wow.
• 54:42
  It's a plethora.
• 54:44
  It is.
• 54:46
  Nice use of the word plethora.
• 54:48
  Because I do that right.
• 54:53
  Yeah.
• 54:53
  So, yeah,
• 54:55
  no excuses to not come see a dietician
• 54:58
  and get the help you need today.
• 55:01
  Yeah.
• 55:01
  And zero percent or zero dollars for
• 55:04
  ninety five percent.
• 55:05
  Yeah.
• 55:06
  Yeah.
• 55:06
  That's pretty good deal.
• 55:08
  That's cool.
• 55:08
  You can use your insurance or stuff like
• 55:09
  that,
• 55:10
  because I do think everyone can benefit
• 55:12
  from meeting with like a good dietitian.
• 55:14
  And I feel like I'm a good dietitian.
• 55:16
  I care.
• 55:18
  But I try to address all the areas
• 55:21
  of someone's life.
• 55:23
  Yeah.
• 55:24
  Cool.
• 55:26
  You just have to call her train all
• 55:27
  of.
• 55:28
  Yeah, I'm like, nice to meet you,
• 55:29
  Train Olive.
• 55:30
  I remember you.
• 55:33
  Yeah.
• 55:36
  Her name is actually Winter, I believe.
• 55:38
  Okay, I was like, yeah,
• 55:39
  what name am I looking for when she
• 55:40
  actually comes through?
• 55:41
  Winter.
• 55:41
  That's a cool name.
• 55:42
  Yeah.
• 55:44
  All these people,
• 55:46
  and I have this weird thing with my
• 55:48
  memory that I can just remember goofy
• 55:50
  stuff like that.
• 55:51
  Yeah.
• 55:52
  Well, it's a unique name too, Winter.
• 55:54
  Yeah.
• 55:56
  Um, but yeah, nutrition's pretty awesome.
• 56:00
  And it's,
• 56:00
  there's a lot of information out there and
• 56:02
  you have to definitely do what works for
• 56:05
  you,
• 56:05
  but try to find someone that also has
• 56:08
  some experience working with people like
• 56:11
  you and a lot of people they're similar.
• 56:13
  Here's my last question for you.
• 56:15
  And then I'll let you, you go, um,
• 56:18
  should she sign up as train olive is
• 56:20
  she's she's asking.
• 56:22
  No, I think for like insurance and stuff,
• 56:23
  you got to put your full real name.
• 56:25
  Unless that's on your insurance card,
• 56:26
  you probably have to stick with the real
• 56:28
  name.
• 56:28
  Yeah.
• 56:30
  So there are so many fads and so
• 56:33
  many misconceptions of nutrition.
• 56:37
  Is more of your job debunking those or
• 56:41
  giving the client what they actually need?
• 56:45
  That's another good question.
• 56:48
  Yeah,
• 56:49
  I would say people will come to me
• 56:51
  with fads and questions and I want them
• 56:53
  to, and then we'll kind of go,
• 56:55
  I'll definitely go through those.
• 56:57
  But sometimes I just kind of like smile
• 56:59
  and like, huh, okay, yeah.
• 57:01
  Okay, well,
• 57:01
  this is what I want you to do.
• 57:03
  And then I kind of tell them,
• 57:04
  this is actually your plan.
• 57:07
  And because a lot of them have been
• 57:08
  doing these fads and trying these things.
• 57:10
  I'm like, well,
• 57:10
  you've been doing that and it's not
• 57:12
  working for you.
• 57:12
  So let's try something different.
• 57:14
  That's not the fad.
• 57:16
  And it's what I'm telling you to do.
• 57:17
  And then when I word it like that,
• 57:19
  they're like, yeah, you're right.
• 57:21
  Like I have been doing this for the
• 57:23
  last two years.
• 57:23
  I have been doing keto and here I
• 57:26
  am.
• 57:27
  Well then, yeah,
• 57:28
  let's not try keto for you.
• 57:30
  Does anybody ever bring something to you
• 57:32
  that you're like, oh my gosh,
• 57:34
  I've never heard that before?
• 57:39
  I did have, yeah,
• 57:40
  I did have one recently and it had
• 57:41
  to do with bananas.
• 57:42
  Yes.
• 57:44
  I'm trying to remember what it was,
• 57:45
  but it was something so outlandish.
• 57:47
  Like, no,
• 57:47
  you should never eat a banana because it
• 57:50
  will turn a straight like fat.
• 57:51
  And I'm like, no, it wasn't just like,
• 57:54
  oh, carbs make you fat.
• 57:55
  Like that kind of like just bananas
• 57:59
  thinking.
• 58:00
  Yeah.
• 58:00
  I was just like, no, only bananas.
• 58:01
  Like, no, I cut those on my diet.
• 58:03
  Cause they like make, yeah.
• 58:05
  They make your liver like they do
• 58:06
  something.
• 58:07
  I don't know.
• 58:07
  I'm like, that's, that's not correct.
• 58:10
  Yeah.
• 58:11
  But that was probably the weirdest thing.
• 58:13
  There's definitely people asking me if
• 58:14
  I've read books, this book, this person,
• 58:17
  this doctor.
• 58:17
  So I get a lot of that.
• 58:20
  And I try to keep up with,
• 58:21
  I need a book club.
• 58:22
  I need to be like reading one new
• 58:24
  random nutrition fad book a week.
• 58:28
  a week, maybe, if I could do that,
• 58:30
  if I could read that fast,
• 58:32
  just to stay on top of stuff.
• 58:33
  But there's just, yeah,
• 58:34
  there's just so much garbage out there.
• 58:35
  You just got to filter it out.
• 58:37
  But no,
• 58:38
  I think everyone should be like learning
• 58:39
  and doing their own research and reading a
• 58:40
  book,
• 58:41
  but then being open-minded to like even
• 58:44
  get online and read reviews of the book
• 58:46
  you're wanting to read about, you know,
• 58:48
  like see what other experts in the field
• 58:50
  are saying about that book.
• 58:51
  And because there's always,
• 58:53
  it's kind of just,
• 58:54
  there's balance to everything.
• 58:55
  You can't just
• 58:57
  pick nutrition fads that eliminate total
• 58:59
  food groups or say that one thing is
• 59:01
  inherently like all evil.
• 59:03
  Like, cause of there's always, you know,
• 59:07
  I don't know if caveats are the right
• 59:08
  word, but like,
• 59:08
  there's always something like you just
• 59:11
  gotta have that balance really in
• 59:13
  moderation and things.
• 59:14
  I think that's in keeping it simple.
• 59:16
  I think those kind of three things are
• 59:19
  the key to success,
• 59:21
  simple consistency and balance.
• 59:26
  But I would love to work with you
• 59:27
  more if you ever want to fill out
• 59:29
  my link online.
• 59:32
  We could dive deep.
• 59:34
  Yeah, I would love to dive deep.
• 59:38
  Well, I'm going to wrap it up here.
• 59:40
  If you have not done so already,
• 59:41
  please like and subscribe to the channel.
• 59:43
  We really appreciate that.
• 59:46
  if you can hold on one minute after
• 59:48
  we say goodbye.
• 59:49
  Sure.
• 59:50
  But yeah,
• 59:51
  if I'm so glad Caroline could be here,
• 59:53
  she's just a complete badass.
• 59:55
  It's been fun watching her career over the
• 59:57
  last couple of years.
• 59:58
  And I'm so glad she took the time
• 1:00:00
  to be here.
• 1:00:00
  If you have any questions,
• 1:00:02
  shoot them to my DM,
• 1:00:03
  shoot them to her DM.
• 1:00:04
  I'll get them to her if you shoot
• 1:00:05
  them to me,
• 1:00:07
  but we'll talk to everybody next time on
• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:10
  Bye guys.