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- 0:02Speaker 1: It's seven degrees in Wrexham, but it's seven degrees in
- 0:04Speaker 1: Edinburgh twenty three in Jacksonville.
- 0:06Speaker 2: This is till Talk, the.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Official Jacksonville Jackuars podcast in the UK and Island in
- 0:11Speaker 1: partnership with Gallagher.
- 0:13Speaker 2: I'm Jay Lawrence in a relation. Hello Reese Parkerson, Hello
- 0:19Speaker 2: Jay Lawrence.
- 0:19Speaker 3: We are back another month of doing absolutely nothing while
- 0:22Speaker 3: we look at any piece of news possible to make
- 0:25Speaker 3: this show interesting.
- 0:28Speaker 2: And not even that.
- 0:28Speaker 1: We're over analyzing every single part of the off season.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And that's what being an NFL fan is all about,
- 0:35Speaker 1: just just finding every single scrap and trying to make
- 0:38Speaker 1: it seem like the biggest deal possible.
- 0:40Speaker 2: How's your no NFL action dry spell?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Going heartbroken about some of the players that have left.
- 0:48Speaker 3: I don't know how you're feeling, but are They were painful,
- 0:51Speaker 3: but in general, I'm okay. I tried to book so
- 0:55Speaker 3: Jay z is doing two nights at the Yankee Stadium
- 0:58Speaker 3: in New York and number two hundred and two hundred thousand,
- 1:05Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty thousand in the queue, so I
- 1:08Speaker 3: didn't get any tickets.
- 1:10Speaker 1: So I thought you were about to say that you
- 1:11Speaker 1: were like number two hundred and twelve in the queue
- 1:13Speaker 1: or something.
- 1:16Speaker 3: So that's been the highlights so far since we last
- 1:19Speaker 3: spoke of me not getting tickets to jay Z.
- 1:21Speaker 2: I mean, that's been a low month.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Let's be honest, Reese, that's the highlight, not get jay
- 1:27Speaker 1: Z tickets. It's a it's a funny one really because
- 1:30Speaker 1: March free agency rees and we'll talk about this in
- 1:33Speaker 1: a second with a special guest. Free agency in March Jacksonville, Janquars.
- 1:39Speaker 1: They're not the busiest, No.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Not at all.
- 1:43Speaker 3: And I think you know, the good thing though in
- 1:46Speaker 3: previous years it's kind of been not Yeah, I think
- 1:50Speaker 3: negative as I say, not negative, no negative in the comments.
- 1:54Speaker 3: But now all I see is in Gladstone, we trust.
- 1:57Speaker 3: In Gladstone, we trust. And what at that tattoo, If
- 2:03Speaker 3: you just get there in there, in that, I get glad,
- 2:07Speaker 3: you get stoned, I get trust. And it only works
- 2:10Speaker 3: when we stand next to each other.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that would be really funny once and in
- 2:18Speaker 1: fifty years you'll be like, right, let me explain. So
- 2:22Speaker 1: its me and my mate. You know, you know, you're
- 2:26Speaker 1: all right, You are right. It does feel like there's
- 2:27Speaker 1: been a the attitude is positive and of course it's
- 2:31Speaker 1: all about the NFL Draft trees as well, a lot
- 2:34Speaker 1: to get excited about.
- 2:35Speaker 3: And even that, it's really interesting because you kind of
- 2:38Speaker 3: compare this to last year, and I mean, our pick
- 2:42Speaker 3: this year doesn't seem as as sexy as the having
- 2:45Speaker 3: a top five pick. Was we top five? To remember
- 2:48Speaker 3: last year we traded up.
- 2:49Speaker 2: For trading of course, yeah yeah, so.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Then we trade up for number two, and this year
- 2:53Speaker 3: we're kind of a fifty six with the fifty sixth pick,
- 2:58Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jackson. So it's kind of like there's players
- 3:00Speaker 3: out there, don't get me wrong, but a different year,
- 3:04Speaker 3: which is nice, which means which usually means if you
- 3:07Speaker 3: have a pick like that, if we made a crazy
- 3:09Speaker 3: trade like we did last year, or we're doing well.
- 3:12Speaker 1: I have two points on that, right And you know,
- 3:14Speaker 1: we'll speak about this load over the next few months,
- 3:16Speaker 1: but getting Travis Hunter will feel like a brand new
- 3:19Speaker 1: pick anyway, having been injured for so much of the season.
- 3:23Speaker 1: And also and look, I know nothing and nothing, I
- 3:26Speaker 1: know nothing, but one thing that has been very clear,
- 3:29Speaker 1: very obvious over the tenure of James Gladstone the one
- 3:33Speaker 1: season is he's.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Not scared to trade. So I don't know. Maybe we'll
- 3:38Speaker 2: see something exciting happening on draft night. Rees, Yeah, no, it.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Wouldn't surprise me. I mean, how much have you been
- 3:44Speaker 3: keeping up with a lot of the players that are
- 3:46Speaker 3: coming through. I've seen like obviously you got the Mendoza.
- 3:50Speaker 3: The QB's pretty clear he's going to and not that
- 3:53Speaker 3: we need a QB, but pretty clear he's going sort
- 3:56Speaker 3: of raiders. So it seems like, a yeah, it's not
- 4:02Speaker 3: like a Travis Hunterry draft. It doesn't feel like you've
- 4:05Speaker 3: got those kind of big hitters. The thing that could
- 4:09Speaker 3: be interesting is we could you know, a little backup
- 4:12Speaker 3: QB in there.
- 4:15Speaker 2: We'll wait, we'll speak about the drafts and a bit.
- 4:18Speaker 1: But I do want to feel I feel sorry for you,
- 4:20Speaker 1: Reese because as soon as Travis ah Chan left been
- 4:24Speaker 1: saying his name wrong years a Chan, we've both spoken
- 4:28Speaker 1: to him, I feel like speaking your name wrong every
- 4:32Speaker 1: single time.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Anyway, we weren't the only one.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Anyway, as soon as he left, I was like, let's
- 4:36Speaker 1: have a look AT's Instagram stories. Let's have a look,
- 4:41Speaker 1: and it was like, I can't believe he's gone literally
- 4:45Speaker 1: broken heart.
- 4:46Speaker 3: Ah man, It's it's so I think like is sport
- 4:52Speaker 3: one of those. Okay, apart from my breakup in real life,
- 4:55Speaker 3: have you ever been for a breakup?
- 4:57Speaker 2: Well, we don't need to go through.
- 4:58Speaker 3: You seemed like the kind of guy that's you've been
- 5:00Speaker 3: in a long term relationship and you're just like the
- 5:02Speaker 3: perfect boy.
- 5:03Speaker 2: To be my I am. I'm married and I've been
- 5:06Speaker 2: with my wife for over ten years. Yeah, over ten years.
- 5:10Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I know it, I know exactly. You're You're
- 5:13Speaker 3: a great guy.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Jay Lawrence.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Me on the other hand, no, but I've been through
- 5:19Speaker 3: some breakups. There's some breakups where you're like, you know what,
- 5:23Speaker 3: it's probably the probably the right move, probably the right
- 5:26Speaker 3: from both sides. With some other breakups you're like, oh,
- 5:30Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm gonna get over this one.
- 5:32Speaker 3: And Travis a Chan it's a we are we what
- 5:36Speaker 3: are we are we.
- 5:37Speaker 4: Going to go by? Now?
- 5:37Speaker 2: We're going to a chant?
- 5:40Speaker 3: Travis a Chan and Devin just fell.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Oh.
- 5:46Speaker 2: It's like when you wake up.
- 5:48Speaker 1: The first thing you do when you wake up, you
- 5:49Speaker 1: just go online and been like has Devon gone?
- 5:53Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, it's kind of two.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Sides because on one side for the human, you're for
- 5:59Speaker 3: the person you're liken't get paid like great contracts. Both
- 6:03Speaker 3: for sure, like it's amazing, but as the fan and
- 6:07Speaker 3: you of your team, you're like, I don't want to.
- 6:11Speaker 3: You know, obviously we've seen it other players lined up
- 6:14Speaker 3: with Trevor as well, but Travis is him. It's Trevor's guy.
- 6:19Speaker 3: So I honestly thought Trevor was gonna just have like
- 6:24Speaker 3: a you know, speak to Gladstone and be like anyone
- 6:29Speaker 3: like you've got like, come on, this is my guy.
- 6:32Speaker 3: But you know, obviously I live in a bit of
- 6:34Speaker 3: a fairy tower sometimes with sports and you know, business
- 6:37Speaker 3: is business. But I guess they felt they did what
- 6:40Speaker 3: they needed to do.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Let's introduce our special guest to the show in a second,
- 6:44Speaker 1: but first I did want to mention, by the way, Reese,
- 6:46Speaker 1: that the Jags have been out in the community getting
- 6:48Speaker 1: balls in hands of kids with.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Jack tag Flank football.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Great event last week with fourteen schools over one hundred
- 6:55Speaker 1: and forty kids playing five on five tournament. I don't
- 6:59Speaker 1: know if you saw the pictures in UK socially like
- 7:01Speaker 1: an amazing event. And the one thing I always think
- 7:03Speaker 1: when I see these pictures on social trees is how
- 7:07Speaker 1: I don't know how to throw a ball because you've
- 7:10Speaker 1: got these, You've got these You've got these kids playing
- 7:12Speaker 1: fang football, and the way that they're like their arm,
- 7:14Speaker 1: you can just tell that they are throwing this in
- 7:16Speaker 1: like a perfect spiral. And then I just think, I
- 7:20Speaker 1: don't know how to do that, So credit to them.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Did you ever meet that kids? Who was who's the QB?
- 7:25Speaker 3: And oh he's been at like three Jag Tag events?
- 7:28Speaker 3: God forgive me for forgetting his name, but I always
- 7:31Speaker 3: call him Little Trevor. I see him and I go,
- 7:33Speaker 3: little exactly who who's like that dude can play? And
- 7:39Speaker 3: I'm like, we like, we need to get Gladstone and
- 7:42Speaker 3: some of the scouting team over here to check this
- 7:44Speaker 3: little kid. The dude looks like Trevor Like it's literally like,
- 7:48Speaker 3: what what amazing story would this be? This British kid
- 7:52Speaker 3: ends up playing for the Jags.
- 7:55Speaker 1: And it's amazing talent, you know what I mean, It's
- 7:56Speaker 1: just like amazing talent and it's you know, it's incredible.
- 8:00Speaker 3: JP can recruit him to Alabama, so we've got his
- 8:03Speaker 3: college career sorted and then we can get him in
- 8:05Speaker 3: the draft and it will work out a nice time.
- 8:07Speaker 3: At the back end of Trevor's career.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Well, speaking of JP, shall we welcome the voice of
- 8:14Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, shoul we say, the face of the
- 8:16Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jackson the Man of the Jacksonville Jaguars, JP, Shadrick
- 8:21Speaker 1: joining to your talk, PEO.
- 8:25Speaker 4: J P J.
- 8:27Speaker 2: If he's there, Pete JP.
- 8:28Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep saying JP to peak jpe
- 8:31Speaker 3: J P J, Pete J, Pete JP, JP, the man himself,
- 8:38Speaker 3: he's here on the show.
- 8:40Speaker 4: Welcome, Hello, how are you? We'll go great to be
- 8:45Speaker 4: with you again. That's been a while.
- 8:47Speaker 1: That's the voice of somebody who's spent about twenty five
- 8:49Speaker 1: minutes trying to get his zoom working.
- 8:51Speaker 2: So we could have this conversation.
- 8:54Speaker 4: You know what, somehow overcame on a different product. So
- 8:58Speaker 4: I'm not even on the computer. I'm on the phone.
- 9:00Speaker 4: But we're making it work and rolling with the punches.
- 9:03Speaker 4: Maybe that's it.
- 9:04Speaker 1: We have the last few weeks been for you then, JP.
- 9:06Speaker 1: Obviously free agency, busy time of the year as always,
- 9:10Speaker 1: but with the Janks it's been more outgoings than incomings,
- 9:13Speaker 1: isn't it.
- 9:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been that busy. Be quite honest with you.
- 9:16Speaker 4: It has been pretty, uh, pretty low key compared to
- 9:18Speaker 4: some other offseasons we've had around here in the past.
- 9:21Speaker 4: You know. So they've they've re signed a handful of guys.
- 9:23Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys have talked about that, and then
- 9:25Speaker 4: they went out and got a running back from Washington
- 9:29Speaker 4: and tried to get another receiver that didn't work out.
- 9:32Speaker 4: That's kind of where they are. There's gonna let it
- 9:34Speaker 4: kind of kind of let it come to them. I
- 9:36Speaker 4: think in free agency the rest of the way here,
- 9:38Speaker 4: they don't have to really go out and force a
- 9:41Speaker 4: bunch of money to be spent. They have all these
- 9:44Speaker 4: draft picks, eleven of them in the draft this year,
- 9:46Speaker 4: and you know, not in the first round, but so
- 9:50Speaker 4: that's probably where you're headed now, is looking more towards
- 9:53Speaker 4: the draft there. Like I said, there could be another
- 9:55Speaker 4: couple of you know, veteran free agent guys down the line,
- 9:59Speaker 4: but they were not going to make the splash. That's
- 10:02Speaker 4: just not what it was going to be. And that's
- 10:05Speaker 4: why it's been relatively quiet. And now they're busy on
- 10:08Speaker 4: the football side of things in the offices over there,
- 10:10Speaker 4: getting ready for the draft and working through scenarios and stuff.
- 10:13Speaker 4: But in terms of our coverage of it, that much
- 10:16Speaker 4: going on right now.
- 10:18Speaker 1: That's Chris Rodriguez, the running back from Washington, who's I'm
- 10:21Speaker 1: over And as you mentioned, they try to get a
- 10:23Speaker 1: wide receiver Jake Bobo from by the way, great surname
- 10:27Speaker 1: I think in the NFL, to come over from the Seahawks.
- 10:31Speaker 2: But he says, staying with Seattle race.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Is it hard to get Super Bowl winner over? Just
- 10:37Speaker 3: like that?
- 10:38Speaker 4: He kind of guy, Well, I mean they matched the
- 10:42Speaker 4: offer so or made it better. So yeah, apparently so
- 10:45Speaker 4: it's not as easy as you think. So you know what,
- 10:48Speaker 4: that's another kind of scenario that you look at if
- 10:51Speaker 4: you're not going to spend a lot in free agency,
- 10:52Speaker 4: you have a certain skill set or a guy you like,
- 10:56Speaker 4: you look at all those different types of contracts and
- 10:58Speaker 4: different ways to bring guys in and hey, they threw
- 11:01Speaker 4: an offer out, he got matched the end on to
- 11:04Speaker 4: the next.
- 11:06Speaker 3: And JP, is it a case of I mean, firstly,
- 11:09Speaker 3: what do you think of Chris Rodriguez Junior? And is
- 11:13Speaker 3: that position solidified? Has base all got it? Or is
- 11:16Speaker 3: that a battle that's going to cappen out in training camp.
- 11:19Speaker 3: I'm sure Chris isn't the sort of person that's going
- 11:21Speaker 3: to come in and go, yeah, I'm how happy he's
- 11:23Speaker 3: to be a backup already he's going to try and
- 11:25Speaker 3: take that spot. How do you see that working out?
- 11:28Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't know if it's a
- 11:32Speaker 4: true number one running back scenario now. Etn it worked
- 11:36Speaker 4: out where he was kind of the lead guy at
- 11:38Speaker 4: the end of training camp last year. Improved that with
- 11:40Speaker 4: some big play. But Baseball Touton had some big moments
- 11:43Speaker 4: this season. La Quinn Allen was key in pass rush
- 11:46Speaker 4: situations where he's chipping guys on the edge and doing
- 11:50Speaker 4: that thing. They all had roles, and I think that
- 11:52Speaker 4: will even come more into play now with Rodriguez in there.
- 11:57Speaker 4: He's a between the tackles guy and that's what he's
- 12:00Speaker 4: always Now. He's limited production, right, He had to share
- 12:04Speaker 4: some time in Washington. Was never truly the number one
- 12:06Speaker 4: featured back. But that's why he's getting what he's getting
- 12:10Speaker 4: a year. It's not thirteen million like Etn's getting or
- 12:13Speaker 4: HN now in New Orleans, it's about five. And that's
- 12:17Speaker 4: that tells you, at least from my perspective, that they're
- 12:21Speaker 4: going to share some time and Tooton, I think did
- 12:24Speaker 4: prove a lot last year that he can play physical
- 12:27Speaker 4: football as well, because we didn't really see the true
- 12:31Speaker 4: breakaway speed until the last few weeks of the season.
- 12:33Speaker 4: He was breaking out side. He didn't do that a
- 12:35Speaker 4: lot earlier in the year, and that was what was
- 12:37Speaker 4: advertised coming in and to show that physicality I think
- 12:40Speaker 4: was a big step. So I think they needed a
- 12:42Speaker 4: little more consistency between the tackles. Etn wanted to naturally
- 12:48Speaker 4: just wanted to bounce it out into space a lot
- 12:52Speaker 4: and was getting better at times, you know, just following blockers,
- 12:56Speaker 4: but he sometimes just wouldn't do that and that's okay.
- 13:00Speaker 4: But I think they just wanted a little more consistency
- 13:03Speaker 4: in the middle of the offense.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Obviously, you mentioned Travis going. Devin Lloyd of course has
- 13:07Speaker 1: now gone as well. I mean, it's a city question
- 13:09Speaker 1: in a way, But how easy do you think it's
- 13:11Speaker 1: going to be to replace him?
- 13:13Speaker 4: You know, he had a great season. Devin Lloyd had
- 13:19Speaker 4: an impactful season. He was one of the most impactful
- 13:22Speaker 4: defensive players in the league last year. You can argue that,
- 13:25Speaker 4: certainly it's one year though, that's the other argument that
- 13:29Speaker 4: is it a flash in the pan. Can you count
- 13:31Speaker 4: on five interceptions a year if you're a corner, you
- 13:34Speaker 4: can't count on five interceptions in a season. And there
- 13:37Speaker 4: were some where he was in the right place, right time, somewhere.
- 13:39Speaker 4: He made fantastic plays the Chiefs game Monday night, one
- 13:43Speaker 4: hundred yard picked six. I mean, that is a good
- 13:45Speaker 4: scouting play. And he went and executed what they taught
- 13:49Speaker 4: and what he learned in the film room that week
- 13:51Speaker 4: to step in front of that pass, and that was
- 13:53Speaker 4: really well done on his part. There were a lot
- 13:55Speaker 4: of things like that, but I think in theory they
- 14:00Speaker 4: didn't want to really go over a big number for
- 14:02Speaker 4: that because there there is a feeling I think they
- 14:05Speaker 4: can get that type of position in the drafts this
- 14:09Speaker 4: year names. I don't know, it's too far down in
- 14:11Speaker 4: the list right now. You know, with the Jags going
- 14:14Speaker 4: fifty six and beyond, you know of who those possibilities
- 14:17Speaker 4: could be. But those players are out there, okay, and
- 14:21Speaker 4: they're kind of up against the cap, and okay. He
- 14:24Speaker 4: didn't really perform that great in the years prior. He
- 14:27Speaker 4: had some inconsistencies there and he was used differently last year.
- 14:31Speaker 4: There's all that, so is it a loss. Sure, is
- 14:34Speaker 4: it oh gosh, the sky's falling loss? No? Because I
- 14:37Speaker 4: think they're the way that position's played in college especially.
- 14:41Speaker 4: There are players out there that they feel like can
- 14:43Speaker 4: at least step in and contribute and they probably won't
- 14:46Speaker 4: have five interceptions the season, but that position is really
- 14:49Speaker 4: not designed for that either. It was a fantastic season
- 14:52Speaker 4: for him, but now it's on to the next.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I find it interesting because you know, you're different. Obviously
- 14:59Speaker 3: you're different to us too, in terms of you're in
- 15:01Speaker 3: the building, you're doing media every single day is basically
- 15:06Speaker 3: takes up, you know, most of your hours. Sometimes we've
- 15:10Speaker 3: seen kind of media get very close to like the
- 15:14Speaker 3: Lady or when we've got knocked out of the playoffs,
- 15:16Speaker 3: had the viral moment with coach, and some people were like, ah,
- 15:20Speaker 3: this is this is not how media should be and
- 15:23Speaker 3: we shouldn't get closed, And there's others that kind of like,
- 15:26Speaker 3: this is such a sweet moment, amazing, like you can
- 15:28Speaker 3: see how the impact you hadn't coach, how do you
- 15:31Speaker 3: how close do you get to the players? I mean
- 15:33Speaker 3: when you see someone like maybe let's go with Travis,
- 15:36Speaker 3: who's you know you've known for a long time. You've
- 15:38Speaker 3: interviewed him countless times. Are you detached? You know, have
- 15:42Speaker 3: you been through this enough times where you're detached when
- 15:44Speaker 3: players leave? Or are you a bit like damn, like
- 15:47Speaker 3: that's my guy.
- 15:49Speaker 4: A great question. It really is an INFI perspective, and
- 15:52Speaker 4: you're right, it is a different perspective because I work
- 15:55Speaker 4: in the building with them, right so I'll see them
- 15:57Speaker 4: in different areas during the day that other media that
- 16:01Speaker 4: work outside of the building for independent broadcast companies, you know,
- 16:06Speaker 4: don't have access to some of those guys. And not
- 16:08Speaker 4: that I use that access, but you know, you're around
- 16:11Speaker 4: them in the lunch troop, You're around them walking through
- 16:13Speaker 4: the hall somewhere or whatever. Right there. The presence is
- 16:17Speaker 4: just bigger and it just depends on the person. For me,
- 16:20Speaker 4: I mean in the past, I mean I've been really
- 16:21Speaker 4: close to players where you become tight enough of a
- 16:26Speaker 4: relationship where okay, maybe you do have a dinner or
- 16:30Speaker 4: something out like that. I mean, there's not there's Those
- 16:32Speaker 4: are rare though, because of the turnover and everything that
- 16:35Speaker 4: comes with it. You know, you just have to really
- 16:38Speaker 4: make sure that's a legitimate and a real thing. I'm
- 16:41Speaker 4: not going to go force that with every play that's
- 16:43Speaker 4: just not you know, and I do have to keep
- 16:46Speaker 4: a certain uh, you know, distance, because I do have
- 16:51Speaker 4: to cover them. And sometimes if a performance is not
- 16:55Speaker 4: up to par, I have to tell people why and
- 16:57Speaker 4: what it was, so, you know, I and I learned
- 17:01Speaker 4: that a long time ago too. You gotta be careful,
- 17:04Speaker 4: especially if you're walking around the building with guys and
- 17:06Speaker 4: there's critique of players or something's not going with or
- 17:10Speaker 4: the team stinks. You still have to walk down the
- 17:14Speaker 4: hall next to that guy the next day. And I
- 17:17Speaker 4: learned that a long time ago when I did minor
- 17:18Speaker 4: league baseball, right and I was riding on the bus
- 17:21Speaker 4: with the players and we're, you know, we're driving ten
- 17:23Speaker 4: hours to the next game for three days and it's
- 17:26Speaker 4: a Tuesday night game of Mobile Alabama and the kid
- 17:29Speaker 4: has two errors at shortstop and you know, I explain
- 17:33Speaker 4: why and what of the radio? Well, guess who's listening
- 17:36Speaker 4: on the radio. Mom and dad back home in Kansas
- 17:39Speaker 4: are saying that JP said this about your you know,
- 17:42Speaker 4: their son. And the first thing that happens when the
- 17:45Speaker 4: sun gets on the bus is like, what did you
- 17:47Speaker 4: say about my g You know, So that that's where
- 17:49Speaker 4: it starts. I get that, so I try to, you know,
- 17:54Speaker 4: have some perspective and let them be. I mean, this
- 17:57Speaker 4: is their workplace, so I'm not gonna go sitting there
- 17:59Speaker 4: all day and just make friend with every player. I'll
- 18:01Speaker 4: go in the time i'm allotted. We have a good
- 18:03Speaker 4: working relationship in the forty five minutes we were in the
- 18:05Speaker 4: locker room, and there are some players you grow to
- 18:08Speaker 4: become a little closer to, But in that environment is
- 18:11Speaker 4: usually where I keep that because because you know, it's
- 18:15Speaker 4: just only so many hours in a day and they've
- 18:17Speaker 4: got work to do. I've got work to do. I've
- 18:19Speaker 4: got friends, and it's just like not, that's not how
- 18:21Speaker 4: it goes. Now to your point, there are the guys
- 18:24Speaker 4: that you are close to in the locker room are
- 18:25Speaker 4: fantastic and Etn I think was. I guess he'd be
- 18:29Speaker 4: in that category. He was really good when the mic
- 18:32Speaker 4: was on. If I needed something extra, you know, I
- 18:35Speaker 4: could trust him and go up and hey, what do
- 18:37Speaker 4: you think of this? Real quick and he'd give me
- 18:39Speaker 4: an answer and either for background or whatever like that.
- 18:42Speaker 4: But I was not going to sit his locker for
- 18:44Speaker 4: thirty minutes. And that's just not my style is not
- 18:47Speaker 4: his style, right, I'm not going to do that. Devin
- 18:50Speaker 4: Lloyd when was always available even when things weren't going well,
- 18:55Speaker 4: he's didn't have anything to say because he wasn't playing well.
- 18:57Speaker 4: I mean, that's just part of it. A couple of
- 18:58Speaker 4: years ago, as hit went on this year, he was
- 19:02Speaker 4: really really good with the media and they used him
- 19:05Speaker 4: every week because he was making plays. So it just
- 19:07Speaker 4: depends on the person. That's a long answer, But I
- 19:11Speaker 4: love this topic because the dynamics of you know, relationships
- 19:16Speaker 4: between players and media and who's what media outlet you're
- 19:19Speaker 4: with and how long you're around them. It's just a
- 19:22Speaker 4: little different vibe when you work here in the building.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why it's interesting though, because you know,
- 19:28Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFL, the relationship between players
- 19:32Speaker 1: and media is incredibly different to what it's like in
- 19:35Speaker 1: the Premier League over in the UK. Like the idea
- 19:38Speaker 1: that you get to go in the locker room and
- 19:40Speaker 1: you know, talk to them, whether you're an independent publication
- 19:44Speaker 1: or if you're yourself, where you go to what you
- 19:46Speaker 1: say forty five minutes a day in the locker.
- 19:47Speaker 4: Room, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, it's crazy. It has to
- 19:51Speaker 4: be open forty five minutes a day during the season Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
- 19:56Speaker 4: Sometimes will open it on Monday as a bonus as well.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Other times it'll be just a prey conference with a
- 20:00Speaker 4: couple of players, you know. Coordinators all have to talk
- 20:03Speaker 4: by league rule once a week in front of the
- 20:06Speaker 4: media as well, and the head coach. I think it's
- 20:07Speaker 4: at least twice a week during the practice week. So
- 20:11Speaker 4: there's so much availability here. Well.
- 20:13Speaker 1: As someone who covered a Premier League team for the radio,
- 20:17Speaker 1: you know, you might get a good five minutes, ten
- 20:20Speaker 1: minutes a week something like that, you know, with everybody
- 20:23Speaker 1: else there as well.
- 20:24Speaker 2: So it's very different.
- 20:24Speaker 1: It's very interesting, and you know the next podcast that
- 20:27Speaker 1: we're going to be doing actually, I mean, if you
- 20:29Speaker 1: think about it, it would be the tail end of next month. Well,
- 20:32Speaker 1: what's happening at the tail end of next month, JP, Well,
- 20:34Speaker 1: it is the NFL Draft. Now you mentioned before, there
- 20:38Speaker 1: are no there's no first round pet pick as it
- 20:41Speaker 1: stands for the Jacksonville Jankuars going into it. What are
- 20:45Speaker 1: the positions that you're thinking James Glanston is going to
- 20:48Speaker 1: have an eye on trying to improve the team in
- 20:51Speaker 1: this area.
- 20:52Speaker 4: Let's start with interior defensive linemen, so some kind of
- 20:57Speaker 4: past rushing defensive tackle. Now there's talk of them, and
- 21:02Speaker 4: they did a little bit of this last year. That
- 21:04Speaker 4: looked pretty good with Treyvon Walker sliding inside to play
- 21:07Speaker 4: some tackle because he gave you, you know, a little more
- 21:10Speaker 4: presence in there. But I think they need another guy inside.
- 21:14Speaker 4: Eric arm says, not getting any younger, and Mason Smith
- 21:18Speaker 4: just hasn't performed like the previous regime thought he might.
- 21:21Speaker 4: That's why they drafted him so high. Not that he
- 21:24Speaker 4: can't moving ahead, but he hasn't so far. I mean,
- 21:26Speaker 4: and he was a healthy scratch a lot last year too,
- 21:29Speaker 4: Let's be honest, it's what it is. So I think
- 21:31Speaker 4: that's a real priority in the draft. You got to get,
- 21:34Speaker 4: you know, a defensive lineman on the in the middle somehow.
- 21:38Speaker 4: You can always use a cornerback or extra cornerback or two.
- 21:41Speaker 4: They're a pretty good spot there right now, especially if
- 21:43Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis is fully healthy, and of course Travis Hunter.
- 21:47Speaker 4: You know, Travis is gonna play a little more defense.
- 21:49Speaker 4: It sounds like all defense and then some offense on
- 21:52Speaker 4: the side. So those are your corners. Darian Jones is back.
- 21:56Speaker 4: You know, they're gonna get Ransaw hopefully healthy this year
- 22:00Speaker 4: at play some safety, so they feel pretty positive in
- 22:03Speaker 4: the secondary right now. There's just a few of the names,
- 22:05Speaker 4: but you can always use extra cornerbacks, so I wouldn't
- 22:09Speaker 4: be shocked to see them go that direction. It just
- 22:11Speaker 4: feels a little more defensive heavy this year. They're a
- 22:13Speaker 4: pretty good spot at receiver, you know, running back. Okay,
- 22:16Speaker 4: maybe you go draft a running back too, just to
- 22:19Speaker 4: have a fourth fifth guy to compete, you know, maybe,
- 22:24Speaker 4: but then they're happy at tied end right now. It
- 22:27Speaker 4: seems like offensive line you can always use alignment, so
- 22:30Speaker 4: I bet you they get somebody somewhere in the draft.
- 22:33Speaker 4: And then what's going on a linebacker. So for me though,
- 22:38Speaker 4: the defensive stuff, first D line, you need a linebacker
- 22:43Speaker 4: clearly to since Devin Lloyd's gone, so that'll be a priority.
- 22:46Speaker 4: And then I always can use a corner and it
- 22:49Speaker 4: can always use an offensive lineman.
- 22:52Speaker 1: James Gounston said recently that the compensatory picks a plus
- 23:00Speaker 1: because it gives you some more movement to trade and
- 23:03Speaker 1: I was sort of looking in the future with that,
- 23:06Speaker 1: But do you anticipate. Well, you know he did it
- 23:10Speaker 1: last draft, he wouldn't be he might not be scared
- 23:12Speaker 1: about doing it at this time.
- 23:13Speaker 4: Well that's now. Also, that's a relatively new phenomena in
- 23:16Speaker 4: the league. It's not even ten years old, because I
- 23:19Speaker 4: think twenty seventeen might have been the first year that
- 23:22Speaker 4: teams could actually trade compensatory picks once they received them.
- 23:26Speaker 4: Before that they had to use them, they could not
- 23:29Speaker 4: trade them, and that changed, so that raised the value
- 23:33Speaker 4: of those compicts because you can package those as part
- 23:36Speaker 4: of a deal to move up or you know, that's
- 23:38Speaker 4: happened before. So that's the thinking. Now, there must be
- 23:41Speaker 4: some kind of vision a couple of years down the
- 23:44Speaker 4: line of what could be available in the draft, what
- 23:46Speaker 4: position groups might be strong in two years. Because they
- 23:49Speaker 4: have those projections, they look ahead. That's not foreign to anybody,
- 23:54Speaker 4: So I could see that being Yeah, I mean he
- 23:57Speaker 4: said it, so those are valuable to him, and you
- 24:00Speaker 4: know that's does it help now? Well, right, I mean
- 24:04Speaker 4: it helps in a couple of years. So they're taking
- 24:07Speaker 4: a longer term vision on this thing, especially since they
- 24:09Speaker 4: got a head start. I mean, they won thirteen games
- 24:11Speaker 4: last year and it didn't feel like a fluke at all,
- 24:14Speaker 4: and a lot of the group's coming back, so they
- 24:16Speaker 4: feel like they're in a pretty good spot right now
- 24:18Speaker 4: and can then plan ahead a couple of years down
- 24:21Speaker 4: the line.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Hypeman, JP Reece, of course, I mean JP is usually
- 24:27Speaker 3: the one is telling me to calm down.
- 24:29Speaker 1: I like, JP just said that the Jacks are winning
- 24:32Speaker 1: the Super Bowl essentially, That's why I heard that's lost
- 24:37Speaker 1: in translation.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Yeah, the Atlantic, JP.
- 24:41Speaker 3: If I was to force you to pick a name
- 24:44Speaker 3: in the draft, have you got one on your mind?
- 24:46Speaker 3: And I say that because before the podcast started, I
- 24:49Speaker 3: asked chut ept, give give me the player that the
- 24:55Speaker 3: Jags will dRIT. So it gave me a list and
- 24:57Speaker 3: I was like, no, no, no, no, give me the one.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Do all your statistical analysis. So it's JP versus AI.
- 25:04Speaker 3: And you've actually said, well, you mentioned one of the
- 25:08Speaker 3: positions that GPT has picked as our pick. At fifty six,
- 25:14Speaker 3: I'll give you the reasoning. So at fifty six it
- 25:18Speaker 3: says you're not swinging wild. You're taking a high floor,
- 25:22Speaker 3: high character guy who kind of fell slightly too flap
- 25:26Speaker 3: far down and you're looking all this could be a
- 25:28Speaker 3: still fits a need right draft range Jags type player,
- 25:33Speaker 3: plug and play upside. Don't want to give you a name?
- 25:38Speaker 4: Have you got to Yeah? Because I have no idea
- 25:40Speaker 4: what name to tell you right now? At fifty six,
- 25:43Speaker 4: I really don't. I mean, I like names at the
- 25:45Speaker 4: top of the draft, but the Jags are not at
- 25:46Speaker 4: the top of the draft.
- 25:48Speaker 3: So cornerback, Oh, corner cornerback, cornerback from Missouri, Ennis Reakestraw
- 25:57Speaker 3: junior cornerback. Yeah cool, let's see if that happens.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Should be taking predictive future?
- 26:05Speaker 3: Yeah? And JP and another one?
- 26:09Speaker 2: Do we so?
- 26:11Speaker 4: Nick?
- 26:11Speaker 3: Nick Mullins is our backup? Do you it doesn't look
- 26:17Speaker 3: like an extremely strong QB class just from my opinion
- 26:22Speaker 3: obviously got Mendozo's going up one, I'm sure. But as
- 26:25Speaker 3: you go a bit down your diego Pavia, do you
- 26:29Speaker 3: do you see a world where we go obviously not
- 26:33Speaker 3: looking to replace Trevor in any need, but do you
- 26:36Speaker 3: see they go?
- 26:37Speaker 4: What? Why not?
- 26:38Speaker 3: Let's go for one of these kids? Are Carson Beck
- 26:42Speaker 3: drops to fifty six? And you know, do you do
- 26:45Speaker 3: you see that happening or that's just a bit of
- 26:48Speaker 3: a pipe dream because you've seen it happen before, like
- 26:50Speaker 3: in Atlanta.
- 26:53Speaker 4: Well, think about it this way, where they're paying Trevor
- 26:56Speaker 4: Lawrence fifty five million dollars a year, And so I
- 27:03Speaker 4: got a story for you take out of this to
- 27:05Speaker 4: this a little bit. So Peyton Manning was, of course
- 27:09Speaker 4: the Colts quarterback forever. And there was a question one
- 27:13Speaker 4: time from one of the media members to Tom Moore,
- 27:15Speaker 4: their great offensive coordinator who just recently retired. He's been
- 27:19Speaker 4: coaching for sixty two years, like a legend in the business.
- 27:21Speaker 4: And they asked Tom Moore one day, Hey, why doesn't
- 27:24Speaker 4: so and so backup get more reps at practice like
- 27:29Speaker 4: and Tom Moore and I'll clean this up a little
- 27:32Speaker 4: bit because it's pretty vulgar, but he said, well, if
- 27:37Speaker 4: number eighteen Peyton goes down, then we're screwed, and we
- 27:43Speaker 4: don't practice screwed. So, like, the backup quarterback is what
- 27:48Speaker 4: it is now. There's some instances in league history with
- 27:50Speaker 4: the backup you know, is a miraculous hero, like the
- 27:54Speaker 4: Saint Louis Rams and Kurt Warner. I mean that's there's
- 27:58Speaker 4: a few of those. But he can't bet the farm
- 28:01Speaker 4: on that. So, uh, you know, I think they're happy
- 28:05Speaker 4: with that they have the guy knows the system, he
- 28:07Speaker 4: can get them through a game in and out of
- 28:08Speaker 4: the huddle. And now there is a theory that you
- 28:12Speaker 4: draft a quarterback every year because if they do develop,
- 28:16Speaker 4: then that becomes a valuable piece and comeodity, you can
- 28:19Speaker 4: send on to somebody else and get a higher draft pick,
- 28:22Speaker 4: like six round quarterback. Not nothing wrong with that. If
- 28:26Speaker 4: he develops well and all of a sudden has it
- 28:29Speaker 4: maybe you know Trevor god forbids hurt. He has a
- 28:32Speaker 4: two or three week run where he's playing well, then
- 28:35Speaker 4: all of a sudden trade deadline comes and you can
- 28:36Speaker 4: get a mid round pick for him. Then you've elevated
- 28:39Speaker 4: your pick by like So that's a I wouldn't see
- 28:42Speaker 4: it in the second round for this team, No, I don't.
- 28:45Speaker 4: I don't think so. There are more pertinent needs and
- 28:48Speaker 4: you've got the quarterback that is your franchise guy. You're
- 28:51Speaker 4: not gonna put anybody in there that, truly, I think
- 28:54Speaker 4: he's going to compete for it.
- 28:57Speaker 1: One thing that's definitely happening to other JP, Well do
- 28:59Speaker 1: you think it definitely happened in this year's JP two
- 29:02Speaker 1: games in London for.
- 29:04Speaker 2: The Jacksonville Jankuits.
- 29:05Speaker 1: I mean, we spoke about it at lengthy and we
- 29:07Speaker 1: re in the last podcast and we've been speaking about
- 29:11Speaker 1: any opportunity that we could possibly talk about over the
- 29:13Speaker 1: next few months. But what was your initial reaction when
- 29:16Speaker 1: you heard about it? What was the like the reaction
- 29:18Speaker 1: in the building as well.
- 29:19Speaker 3: He loves it. Well, I know for ant JP loves
- 29:22Speaker 3: even more. You could argue more than us loves London.
- 29:27Speaker 4: I know miss Fiona Fiona's restaurant in Kensington's about to
- 29:30Speaker 4: see my smile on face about four times two weeks
- 29:33Speaker 4: so ken So that's yeah, I love it. I think
- 29:38Speaker 4: it's fantastic. I know it's It's just it's what it
- 29:42Speaker 4: is this year for the Jags because the stadium's under
- 29:44Speaker 4: construction here and they have to be away for that
- 29:48Speaker 4: certain time period for a couple of weeks in a
- 29:50Speaker 4: row and probably a bi week after that, they're hoping,
- 29:53Speaker 4: and then maybe a road game after that. They need
- 29:54Speaker 4: about a month span that part of the season to
- 29:58Speaker 4: do some major things in the state while the team
- 30:01Speaker 4: is not playing here for a month, you know. So
- 30:04Speaker 4: that's the hope when the schedule comes out that it
- 30:05Speaker 4: all kind of works out like that, and that's the
- 30:07Speaker 4: reason why Jags are going to be a home team
- 30:10Speaker 4: at Spurs and then a home team at Wimbley. So
- 30:12Speaker 4: they're going to help the league out with their part
- 30:14Speaker 4: of that deal because they moved that game up. It
- 30:17Speaker 4: was supposed to come in twenty thirty. As you know,
- 30:20Speaker 4: every team has to do one every four years, and
- 30:23Speaker 4: so the Jags made the deal of the league, Hey,
- 30:24Speaker 4: let's move that twenty thirty game that we have to
- 30:27Speaker 4: do an international game up to twenty twenty six, and
- 30:31Speaker 4: we checked the box with the league. The Wimbley game
- 30:34Speaker 4: is not part of the league's deal, okay. And that
- 30:37Speaker 4: way there's an extra game at the new stadium in
- 30:39Speaker 4: Jacksonville in twenty thirty with the full capacity and everything
- 30:42Speaker 4: comes with that. So there's a little foresight to that.
- 30:46Speaker 4: So that's the Jaguars business side of it. But there's
- 30:50Speaker 4: nothing wrong with a couple of weeks in London, at
- 30:52Speaker 4: least for me covered it. I'll tell you that for
- 30:54Speaker 4: a fact.
- 30:55Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've been following the Premier League though,
- 30:58Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if this is a good omen,
- 31:00Speaker 3: but have you seen how Tottenham Hotspur have been performing
- 31:04Speaker 3: at the moment they could be getting relegated.
- 31:07Speaker 4: The natives are getting restless up there in North London.
- 31:10Speaker 4: It sounds like, yeah, it's not not pretty these days,
- 31:13Speaker 4: but you know, stadium is still there, it's lovely.
- 31:16Speaker 2: It will still exist. Yeah, it will still exist.
- 31:19Speaker 3: It will be amazing, Jay if they go down and
- 31:23Speaker 3: then the week before our game it's been Spurs versus
- 31:25Speaker 3: brother Spurs versus Barnsley and then suddenly you've got us
- 31:29Speaker 3: coming in there, that would be quite funny.
- 31:31Speaker 1: But all the the Jags Spurs fans have now turned
- 31:36Speaker 1: off immediately immediately released, and the Rotherham fans as well. JP,
- 31:44Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. What's Jacksonville like
- 31:47Speaker 1: at the moment?
- 31:48Speaker 2: Is it spring? When spring break?
- 31:50Speaker 4: Is that?
- 31:50Speaker 2: Now?
- 31:51Speaker 4: Is that like last week? There are a lot of
- 31:53Speaker 4: the schools and public business were like last week, So
- 31:57Speaker 4: a lot of the schools were out here last week.
- 32:00Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it's been this is that time
- 32:01Speaker 4: of her. March kind of gets busier moving into April. Yeah,
- 32:05Speaker 4: the weather's warming up. It was like eighty five fairnheight yesterday.
- 32:08Speaker 4: It's pretty warm and yeah, I don't know if we're
- 32:11Speaker 4: gonna get down below freezing again. I think those days
- 32:14Speaker 4: are pretty much over. We're getting a lot of rain
- 32:15Speaker 4: now though, so the rate with the heat comes the
- 32:18Speaker 4: rain and some pop up storms. So the next month
- 32:20Speaker 4: we'll have a lot of that coming up.
- 32:22Speaker 2: It's cold.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Say oh yeah, eleventh a year in London.
- 32:29Speaker 1: That's right, cruel is that's cruel JP. Thank you so
- 32:35Speaker 1: much for joining till Talks today and we look forward
- 32:38Speaker 1: to talking talking more jaggs with you over the next
- 32:41Speaker 1: few months. Oh by the way, if you could set
- 32:42Speaker 1: out your zoom for next time, that'd be that would
- 32:44Speaker 1: be great.
- 32:45Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know what let me Uh, I
- 32:49Speaker 4: don't even know how to answer that because uh.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Give it to Jacks I Jags.
- 32:53Speaker 4: I tell that's part of the reason with the issue today.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Here we are give us names, give us.
- 33:06Speaker 4: Don't want to mess with the I T guys. You
- 33:10Speaker 4: mess with the I T guys, you have real problems
- 33:12Speaker 4: coming up.
- 33:14Speaker 2: JP. Thank you so much.
- 33:16Speaker 4: Thanks guys, we'll talk to you next time.
- 33:18Speaker 3: JP. What a guy. Honestly, Jay like that man. He
- 33:24Speaker 3: is in love with London.
- 33:25Speaker 2: He gave a big shout out to Fis in Kensington.
- 33:28Speaker 2: You know, I'll be honest, I don't really go to
- 33:30Speaker 2: Kensington very much, Reese, but it did a little bit
- 33:32Speaker 2: of a just googling it right now looks all right
- 33:36Speaker 2: English fair. So I think we should go what do
- 33:38Speaker 2: you reckon? We should all go go out if.
- 33:40Speaker 3: We just say it a few more times on the
- 33:42Speaker 3: podcast and then send the.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Episode assuming do you reckon that? We could go and
- 33:49Speaker 1: then uh and and pay for it?
- 33:52Speaker 2: Do you reckon?
- 33:55Speaker 3: You know that tall American guy who always wears July shirt.
- 34:01Speaker 4: That's bad.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Yes, him, he said he's going to pay.
- 34:05Speaker 2: He's going to pay for it.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, maybe, because yeah, if it works once, maybe
- 34:10Speaker 1: it works several times, it would be great. But no,
- 34:12Speaker 1: always great having him on on the podcast.
- 34:16Speaker 2: What a man?
- 34:16Speaker 4: What a man?
- 34:17Speaker 2: Do you know?
- 34:17Speaker 1: What the next few weeks is going to be is
- 34:20Speaker 1: one of the best times of the NFL season because
- 34:24Speaker 1: this is the time when we can all get excited,
- 34:27Speaker 1: you know, every single fan base can get excited about
- 34:30Speaker 1: who are they going to who? Who's my team going
- 34:32Speaker 1: to draft? And that's what the next few weeks are
- 34:35Speaker 1: all about, Reese. It's exciting times, exciting times.
- 34:37Speaker 3: It be fun to speak to the international fan of
- 34:40Speaker 3: the year because they're going, aren't they.
- 34:41Speaker 1: Ah, yes, that's a very good point. So yes, so
- 34:45Speaker 1: we'll speak to We'll speak to pedal Bin about call
- 34:49Speaker 1: him count Bin face. That's someone else in it. You
- 34:56Speaker 1: don't be ridiculous, Wow, pedal Bin's going out there.
- 35:08Speaker 2: That is his nickname.
- 35:09Speaker 1: If this is the first podcast you've ever listened to
- 35:11Speaker 1: for till Talk, that that's his nickname.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Is the international fan of the Year.
- 35:14Speaker 1: And he gets to go out to Pittsburgh for the
- 35:17Speaker 1: NFL Draft on behalf of the Jacksonville Jackuars. It's going
- 35:20Speaker 1: to be an amazing, amazing thing. And I know it
- 35:22Speaker 1: means a heck of a lot, doesn't it to him?
- 35:24Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely we'll have to speak to him when
- 35:26Speaker 1: he's back to find out exactly, you know, how it was, Spoilerer.
- 35:31Speaker 1: I bet it's pretty good. I bet, I bet he's
- 35:33Speaker 1: going to have a good time. And of course when
- 35:36Speaker 1: we're back Reese, we will be talking more things NFL Draft,
- 35:41Speaker 1: of course, because we're going to be back in about.
- 35:42Speaker 2: A month's time.
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