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Ghosted: Adore Delano Encountered Ghosts · Spooky Season Podcasts 🎃

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed? It's spooky
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: and kooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm ghosted.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: I was from my dad's. Eat me, please. Hey boo!
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: It's me, Roz, and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast where I talk to people that I like
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: about the paranormal. Oh my god, I don't believe it.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: We've got Adore Delano in the house. Adore Delano, of course,
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: the recording artist's that has traveled the world. She's been
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: on American Idol. She was on RuPaul's Drag Race. She's
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: an international star, honey. And also, somebody that I've known
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: since literally the two of us were teenagers. You guys
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: don't even know what I got up my sleeves, okay?
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: You've known me for years. You don't even know I've
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: known Adore Delano this whole time. But we finally got her.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm so excited to talk to her and to
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: catch up a little bit. She's got some ghost stories.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: They're coming at you. But of course, I got to
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: plug things real quick. This is my time, my time
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  Speaker 1: of the year for my podcast and my YouTube series,
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: The Haunted Doll, where I go to haunted hotels. with
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: guys I meet from Grindr and go ghost hunting. So
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  Speaker 1: spread the word, go enjoy the delights I have for you.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: I'm working on some new episodes. I've shot some ghost
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  Speaker 1: hunts that I've been holding onto that I'm about to release.
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  Speaker 1: So make sure you subscribe to my YouTube channel Roz Hernandez,
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  Speaker 1: the doll. Okay, time to talk to my dear old friend,
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  Speaker 1: Adore Delano. On with the show! Dada Dordolato. Hello. How
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: are you? Thank you for having me. I can't believe it.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: We got you. I know.
• 2:28
  Speaker 3: You got me, gal.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: You people are hard to get. All you drag queen,
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: drag race people. Are we? You always fly into different countries.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this show for so many years, and
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: people have always told us we gotta have you. Really? Yeah.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: I think because, like, I'm an inherent spooky bitch. Like, yeah,
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: it's in the eyes. It's in the eyes.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: And the day has finally come. And I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: hear what these stories are going to be.
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: Are you really, really, really excited? Are you prepared for
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: the spook factor.
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: To go up? I don't know what they're going to be. So,
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: do you know what year I met you? You met
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: me in 2010 or 2009?
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: Because we went to go see Scream 4 when it
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: came out in theaters, when it just came out.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yes, I remember we saw Black Swan.
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: We did see Black Swan, but didn't we see Scream
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  Speaker 3: 4 as well?
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: Probably. What year was Black Swan? I'm looking it up
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  Speaker 1: right now. I'm so goofed. Okay, Black Swan came out
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: in 2010. Yeah, see? I'm good with years. So, 16
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: years I've known you. Isn't that wild? Yes, I know.
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: Take that in.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: Let it sit. 16 years. We met at Tiger Heat.
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: We did meet at Tiger Heat. The 18 and up.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-huh, on Thursdays.
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think any of us were able to drink
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  Speaker 3: back then.
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  Speaker 1: Legally. Legally, yeah. Oh, my God.
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: We were young.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: Spent several gender identities.
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  Speaker 2: Very, very.
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  Speaker 1: Peaks and valleys, I would say. Travel the world.
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  Speaker 3: Travel the world, grab some daisies on the way.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're here talking about ghosts. Look at us
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: all spooky and shit. Two ladies. Two ladies talking about ghosts.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: Two old ladies.
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  Speaker 3: Two old ladies just reminiscing about Black Swan and talking
• 4:24
  Speaker 3: about ghosts.
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: Crazy, right? What a life. I know. Well, let's hear it.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Where do you want me to start? What do you got?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I got childhood stories.
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: I got like preteen stories. I think the preteen stories
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  Speaker 3: are really scary because those were like the most vulnerable
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  Speaker 3: and kind of like weird situations that I was in,
• 4:45
  Speaker 3: like discovering yourself.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: And I think that's when it kind of was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What was like the belief like growing up? Like because
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: you're Mexican. What did that play into it? When it
• 4:57
  Speaker 1: comes to, like, the thought of ghosts and stuff. You
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: know what? Not really.
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: My grandma, like, I low-key, like, she's a witch. But, like,
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: no one calls it that. But, like, she was, like,
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  Speaker 3: reading our palms when we were, like, kids.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Telling me, like, oh, I think she, I remember her
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: telling me I'm not going to have children. And I
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: remember her, like, saying some stuff about.
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  Speaker 1: My life, like, by my house. She's, she's.
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  Speaker 3: Dark sided.
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  Speaker 1: But do you feel like you have some of that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I do.
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  Speaker 1: In what ways?
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  Speaker 3: Just since I was a kid, like just like little,
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  Speaker 3: little like spiritual connections that I kind of like put
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: the red yarn to as I got older and kind
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  Speaker 3: of connected the dots. They were, they were always like
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: vulnerable moments in my life where, where I did feel
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  Speaker 3: like my spirit team or like my angels did come
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  Speaker 3: in and kind of protect me and kind of guide
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  Speaker 3: me to certain, like, whether it was like life choices
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  Speaker 3: or like go in certain directions. Um, I feel like
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: those weren't just like thoughts that I would think when
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: I was a kid. Those are like pushes because I
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: didn't have like the means of having friends or anything.
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  Speaker 1: It was just like, I think that's true. You and
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  Speaker 1: your angels. Yeah, me and my angels. Who are they?
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: I think they change. Really? I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: They have different shifts for like a couple years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it depends like who you are, what
• 6:11
  Speaker 3: connections you had with people before they passed. Uh, I think, um,
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  Speaker 3: it can be as recent as, as somebody who passes
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  Speaker 3: like super like recent. Um, That just, like, kind of, like,
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  Speaker 3: end up on your team and want to see you
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  Speaker 3: do good in this lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that.
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  Speaker 3: But I do get my grandma a lot on my
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: dad's side, which is pretty trippy. Because I only met
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: her once. But I do feel her vibes.
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  Speaker 1: Which is pretty trippy. How do you know? Like, what
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: makes you think it's her? Hmm. You're going to get
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: people calling and be like, she's a psychosis. No. No.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: I truly feel. Not this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: I truly believe this. And I think, like, I started
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: realizing it in my late 20s.
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  Speaker 1: But, like, I would just feel her vibes.
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  Speaker 3: It would be, like, something that would pop in my
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  Speaker 3: head about, like, the one time I met her, like,
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: she would like, she, I remember like we stood up
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: super late and we ate like brownies and like chocolate
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: ice cream. And I remember thinking like, oh my God,
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: she's so cool. Like grandmas usually don't do this. And
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: then I have like a certain like craving of like
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: that specific thing.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh, sweet.
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  Speaker 3: And then I start seeing little things around the apartment
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  Speaker 3: or like if I go get the ice cream, I'll
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  Speaker 3: start seeing like little things that start reminding me of her.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they're always there, but, like, that, like,
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  Speaker 3: opened the window to, like, kind of, like, seeing that she's, like,
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  Speaker 3: kind of, like, giving you a little, like, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So you're the kind of person, like, if you, like,
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: you look for signs and you read into them a
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  Speaker 1: little bit or?
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  Speaker 3: Not all the time. I think, like, if you get, like,
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: a little, like, I just call it an itch. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you get, like, a little, like, wait, like, why am
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  Speaker 3: I feeling this way?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is this? You know what I mean? And
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  Speaker 1: then you can, like.
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: Open that compartmentalized little section of your brain because it
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: can take over your daily life. I know. Yeah.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: See, because I am one of these people that I'm like,
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Why did that just happen? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a sign.
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: Curious.
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  Speaker 1: So what happened to you when you were preteen?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, it was like right before I came out
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  Speaker 3: of the closet as a gay boy. And I really
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: didn't have any what I thought was support at the time.
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  Speaker 1: You came out of the closet? At 12.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus, Louise.
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  Speaker 3: I was 12 years old.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it was like, it was like, you.
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  Speaker 3: Go through like a little traumatic little moment when that happens.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, I was a little spooked up.
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  Speaker 1: 12 is like what grade?
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  Speaker 3: 12 was the beginning of seventh grade. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know.
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  Speaker 3: That was trippy to do. That was like not the funnest.
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, and like, yeah. I don't know, but
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: you start to think like, was that like trauma maybe? That, like,
• 8:47
  Speaker 3: I was, like, hearing things and, like, things were, like,
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  Speaker 3: speaking to me.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all related.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is, too, and to the person, like,
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  Speaker 3: at the time and, like, what they're going through and
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: how much you want to open that up and see and,
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: I guess, make it up along the way as you go.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: But what happened?
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  Speaker 3: There was a little girl named Emily who used to
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: whisper in my ear.
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  Speaker 1: What? Yeah, like dead ass.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: My mom knows about her. My whole family knows about her.
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  Speaker 3: And this was around 12. And it was the summer
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  Speaker 3: before we started school because I was like integrating into
• 9:22
  Speaker 3: like a regular school because I went to an academy
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: school like for like. bad kids. And I was very
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: nervous about like seeing the kids in the regular school.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: And I was very scared. And there was this girl
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: that would like, like mess with stuff in my room.
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  Speaker 3: And my brother and I like, like separated and had
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: our own rooms. And like, I had this little disco
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: ball that would like light up and it would like
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: stop and like fall over sometimes. And then like, I would, like,
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: freak out. And that night, I would, like, hear little
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: whispers and stuff, like, in my ear. And, yeah, like,
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: deadass would run to my mom's room and sleep on
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: her floor.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: And you'd just be like, there was a girl whispering
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: in my ear. Like, not at first.
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  Speaker 3: Because i was a little scared that they wouldn't believe
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: me which.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: They didn't at first wait had you come out yet
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: or this is before you came before but you had
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: a disco ball in your bedroom yes it's like one.
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: Of those spencer's disco balls in my defense it.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Was like Oh, my God. I had everything, Spencer's.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: It was like, you know those.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Color balls that, like, light up the room?
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was that little.
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  Speaker 2: Spencer's.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, that would get messed with and, like, yeah.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: And then, yeah.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Who do you think she was?
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but I think there was, like, another
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: entity that was attached to her that was in that
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: house that, like, for that growing up process. And my
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: brother started encountering stuff after, like, they, like.
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: So it was, like, it was connected to the house.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because I don't really, like, I don't
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: feel like that house is completely ghostless, but I don't
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: feel like it's, there's not that dark energy there anymore that, like,
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: my brothers and I experience, like, in that time frame.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: This is the same house that's still in the family?
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's much more of, like, brighter feeling to the house, but, like,
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: growing up, there was, like, definitely, like, a cloud of, like,
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the shit that was, but, like,
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  Speaker 3: it was very shitty. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But, like, why is it related to, like, coming out
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: and stuff?
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  Speaker 3: I think just personally for me, I think it could
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: have amplified in just, like, everything that I was going through. And, like,
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: kind of, like, ruminating on my thoughts as a kid.
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  Speaker 3: And just kind of, like, you know what I mean? Like,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, maybe that's an explanation for it. But then, like,
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: my brother seen, like, a little girl in the mirror.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: And then, like, how to get rid of the mirror.
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  Speaker 3: And then it started getting really serious. And then he would, like,
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: bang on my mom's door. And I'm like, I told
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: you guys. Because I think it, like, gets... The, like,
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: vulnerable vibe, I think.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Definitely. That's what it's looking for. The youngest. Wait,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: so your brother saw the little girl in the mirror,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and then you got rid of the mirror. Yeah, we
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: eventually got rid of the mirror, yeah. But she was like,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: nice try. Yeah, she's like, I'm still on that disco ball, bitch. Like,
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? You can't get rid of Emily. You
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: can't keep Emily away from Spencer's. Emily, what is it,
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: The Strange or whatever? From Hot Topic, do you remember?
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: The Strange?
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  Speaker 3: Was it Emily the Strange with the little cat? at
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: Hot Topic back.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: In the day do you remember Emily the Strange damn
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: it that wasn't really my thing but like I would
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: go to Hot Topic and I feel like that was
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: something that I was like that's like fine but like
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Spencer's where is that yeah but I mean I liked
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Hot Topic but I was more like into the like
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: rock and roll shirts and stuff like that authentic would
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: you you know I know something so crazy I have
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: A Hot Topics metal studded belt that I don't know why,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: but I've kept since I was like probably 13. And
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Michigan. It's come with me this
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: whole time. I haven't worn it.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: But then, you know, these kids these days. I meet
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: this young man and he's all into this like early 2000s,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: you know, like pop punk or whatever. And I was like,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: I have a legit vintage belt. Of the time. And I, like,
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: pull it out. Like, I felt like I had to
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: have gloves on. I, like, pulled out my metal studded belt. Like,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: of course, it can't fit my damn waist anymore. But
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm holding on to this. You said bite
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: the metal and check.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: It's real. It's real.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: It is real. It was probably $ 12 at the time.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: But it's probably worth, you know, $ 14 or something now.
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: Good old pyramid belt.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, so good. Mm-hmm. Wait, so, okay. Tell me more stories.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: More stories.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like of that time, my grandma's houses used to
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: always be haunted because she owned like a few properties.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: And it's the same one that would like read the palms.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, that grandma.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very spooky.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Is she still around? Yeah, she's hanging on there.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: Cute.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: We don't really get along, but she's there. She's there, yeah.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: But her properties.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Were always very spooky. I remember growing up, and it
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't just me. My brothers and I would feel it,
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: and we would see a guy with a top hat
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: in the hallway, and with a suitcase, and then we'd
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: see him walk into the pool. I wish my brothers
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: were here.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Who was that?
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean he would walk into the pool?
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: We saw him walk into the pool, girl. He was
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: literally stepping into the pool.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: And then he vanished?
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just, yeah, in the deep end, I guess. I
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: don't know if you can swim or not, but he, like, disappeared.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I was literally, like, six years old, by the way, so, yeah.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: But your brother saw it, too.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Both of them, yeah.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: That's pretty, that's something. Mm-hmm. Where were these properties?
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: San Diego was that one. She owns a property in
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: Azusa that's not too far from my mom's house that
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: she has right now. So we would go there and
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: there would be like, we would hear like mattresses, like
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: somebody's jumping on the mattress. We would just be there
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: with our cousins. And then we'd go in there and
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: there'd be no one in the room. Like stuff like that.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Just spooky-ass energy. Like weird vibes.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Did your grandma believe it? Or did she know about it?
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but all my aunts experienced stuff there
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: growing up as well. Like I have foster aunts that
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: grew up in that house that would really get messed with.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: And like, yeah.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Would they talk about the hat guy?
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: No, they would, like, just lights turning off, doors locking
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: them in, like, weird, like, banging, and the doors, like, shaking, like,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, like, scratches on the door. Like, dark stuff.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I don't like that.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I don't like.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Let's call your grandma.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I don't have her number. Oh!
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I don't have her number.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Ugh.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Let's have her look at our palms and see what
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: she has to say. I'm okay. I'm good. I'm going
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: to look at her palm. Okay. I'll tell her about
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: her life. Okay. No, I'm good. Have you had things
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: happen in your adult life? Yeah.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: What?
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Like, spooky stuff.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Tell us.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: This is the place. We traveled. In 2015, we traveled
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to Spain for a show for Battle of the Seasons
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: back in the day.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, what year were you on Drag Race? We filmed 2013.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: It came out 2014. Oh, yeah. Isn't that wild?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I also remember hanging out with you after you filmed
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: before it premiered.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Was it at Shark Club? Yes.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: In Costa Mesa. And you told me... uh, lots of
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: things like about, like, cause I was like, where have you, like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I remember I talked to you right before you went
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: as you were packing. And then I remember when you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: came home, this was like we were reunited. And you
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: were like, there's this girl, Bianca Del Rio. And I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was like, I know who that is. Because she was
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on this series I had watched online. So then you
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: went to Spain. So the show had already been out. Okay,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: so now 2015.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 2015, we were staying in rural Spain. I've never
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: been to this part of Spain. I was super intrigued.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: There was nothing real.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: It was just... To stay the night for a couple nights.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: And I remember, like, that hotel room fucked with me.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Like, can we say fucked? Of course.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: It fucked with me, like, big time. It was like,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I had, like, a sleep paralysis moment. Like, in the morning.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: And then that night I had to stay in the
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: same hotel. And that feeling was, like... It was like
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a weird, like dark, like sluggish feeling that was like
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: over me that entire night.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Like it was so trippy. I never experienced something like that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Was it Bianca?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I think it was Bianca because she was in the
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: same shared joined room.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Dark sluggish feeling. I never thought of that. But wait
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a second. So has sleep paralysis happened to you like
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: other times?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it has.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I've never had it. I'm so scared. It's so scary.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Do you sleep on your back? I do sometimes. Or
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: like on my tummy. Yeah. So you wake up in
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the morning and you're like frozen?
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Just not frozen. Just like the whole, even when I
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: go out to smoke a cigarette, it would like feel
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: like a little bit like lifted. And then I'd go
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: back inside and we were leaving like early evening. And
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I remember thinking like, Let me just pack my shit,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: go in the lobby and wait down there. And like
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: a couple of the girls were down in the lobby
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: as well. I was telling them my experience. Nobody was
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: experiencing it. I was like, I had sleep paralysis. I
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: felt like something was like following me in my room.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Like it was just so sluggish and weird. Like, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: as soon as we got on the bus and we're
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: like leaving that property, I felt so like, oh my God, like.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I hated that experience.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Ooh, what happened?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it was very spooky, and I
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: can always tell the difference of, like, ugh, or, like, oh.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Like, I feel like.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Something's a little spooky here, but it's fine.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Like, people don't always think about this,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: but when you travel all the time like that, you're
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: in so many different kinds of rooms. And, like, it
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're in the nicest, fanciest room. Someone
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: could have died there.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's not like famous for being haunted.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Someone could have died there. Tragically. Someone could have died
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there yesterday. They cleaned it right up.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: They didn't sage. They didn't do nothing. They cleaned it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And now it's your turn.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: And the windows don't even open. So good luck with that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But I.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That stuff like that trips me out. Like.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: But don't you feel that way sometimes? Like, do you ever, like...
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Sort of, yeah. But I try to ignore it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it can.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I purposely stay in haunted hotel rooms
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: for my YouTube series, Roz Hernandez, The Haunted Doll. But
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I don't sleep in them. I sleep in non-haunted rooms.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But they can still be weird. I don't know what
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the hell happened in them. And I do... Anytime I'm alone,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like... What was that? When you're traveling on the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: road all the time, are you, do you, when you're
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: at like performing at a venue, are you ever like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: this place is haunted?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done in England. I feel like theaters.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Theaters in England. England.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Fuck.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: England is so haunted.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: So haunted.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's haunted. It's because it's so old. So those ghosts, like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: they know the drill. They know how to do it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: They've been doing it for years. Yeah. They've seen it all.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: And easy to feel a vibe there. Like, it's always, like... And, like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: not all the time. Like, I'm not saying, like, oh,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: my God. But, like, there are some times, like, I've played.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: I forget where it was, where this guy, wait, can
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I tell the story? This might be like illegal.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us, tell us. Thug life, dude. I don't
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: know this guy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I've never seen him again after this, but I toured,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I had a world tour with my band. We went
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: to Europe. We were doing the end of that leg
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in Europe. And I want to say it was like, Edinburgh?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: How do you say that? Edinburgh. Edinburgh.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Somewhere, like, it was next to a cemetery, and I
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: remember it being really spooky when we got there. Not
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: right next, but it was right by our tour bus.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And when we went in the venue, the guy was, like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: super grody and, like, fucking punk and, like, what.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Are you going to do for me? You want to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: see something fucking cool up in there?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I want to see something cool.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I was, like, drinking back then.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Who was this guy, the guy that worked there? He, like,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he owned it or he worked there. Oh,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm not going to get him in trouble.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't say that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Okay. It was in some town. We don't know which
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: town it was in. It literally was in a random town. Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: So he's like, do you want to see something cool
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: in the attic, right? It's the one that's upstairs or whatever.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: So I go up this little staircase that's going up
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to this little room. And he has all this fucking
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: spooky ass, like, weird maps, all this, like, crazy book shit.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Like, he has, like, really spooky shit, right? All this
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: crazy book shit and maps. All this book shit, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that stuff you guys do. But it's spooky? Like, they're
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: scary books? It just looks, ugh.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And then, like, he has a safe, right? He opens
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the safe and he goes, do you want to see
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a human skull?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Deadass. Did you?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, because I thought he was joking.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Why did he have a human skull? I don't know.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Did it look fresh or was it like an old skull?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it was old. And he said
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like he got it out of like, I forgot where
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: he said he got it. But I was like, I
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: remember telling my manager at the time who was downstairs,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Like, Gina, the guy has a fucking skull in his attic, dude.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Like, that's why we're feeling like it's crazy here.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It felt, not like, it just felt like wet and spooky.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Like the room was like very, it was like, Spooky.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I remember it had like a little kitchen.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: And wet.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But see, that's what I think about. Like, imagine if
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you died and then once you're dead, you're like, you
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: get buried in the ground and then somebody like rips
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your head off and then sells it to someone. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: then it's like in the upstairs of a concert venue.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah. What do you think that it came from? Like
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: a museum or something?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: No, they probably found it. Somebody probably stole it. It's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: probably not legal to have that skull. No, that's not legal. Well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Because, like, I don't know if it's legal.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Can we Google this? Let's Google. Is it legal to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: own a human skull?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, the AI overview says, yes, it is generally
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: legal to own a human skull in most parts of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the United States and in many other countries, provided that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the remains were obtained legally.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: See? What about in England?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: No U.S. federal laws explicitly ban the possession or trade
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of human bones. Because can't you, like, leave... Like, if
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, like, leave a finger to somebody, like,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I could do that, right? Like, Organ donor or something? Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: if you can organ down. But I feel like you can,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: when it's time to die, you can be like, okay,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: this person gets my foot. Head? I have weird friends. Wait, really?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Are you going to give a foot to a friend?
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Probably not, but I could. There's people that would take it,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Like hang it up on the Christmas tree around?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It's my foot.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I don't need it anymore.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're sweet.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait. Tell me more. Tell me more. Okay.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to think about traveling stories in my adulthood. Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Um, I don't know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Did you?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. No, that. No. What were you going to say? Okay.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Um, no, my friend died when I was in middle school. Um,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: and I remember having like really like, like traumatic things
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: happen with that too. But also again, it was like
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: a really like that same year, that same year. No,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: eighth grade. So that would have been right before I
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: was turning 13, he passed away.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Who was your friend?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Thomas.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: How did he die?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: It was, like, a tragic accident, like, on a Sea-Doo. And, yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: And it was my first experience with, like, grief and, like,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: sudden just permanence of disappearance. And I'd never experienced something
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: like that. And, yeah. Yeah, I would, like, things would
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: move around my room, and I would say that it
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: was him, not knowing if it was him or not.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: But it was happening the year prior to that already.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: But that was, like, a feeling that started with me, like, oh,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: that's him. Like, I felt I just distinguished, like, what
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: was him and what was not.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I think you're psychic. You think I'm psychic? Do you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: think trans people are psychic?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I think that there are better chances that trans people
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: are psychic, yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I think trans people are on a different, like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: just level.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because you kind of have to think, you know,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: outside of the box, per se, and color a bit more.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And not be afraid to kind of open certain boxes.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Well, it's sort of, it's like living in the liminal
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: space and, I don't know.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: It's like you live in the back rooms. Exactly.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Getting chased by a fucking pirate. What did you think
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: of that movie? I liked it.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I loved that they tried to do, like, the practical
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: effects moment, but I still think the monster looked a
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: little fake to me. Yeah. Even though it was a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: mask and, like, a fucking, like, dope-ass tall guy.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: That was, like... That was the fun of it. Yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: but I, like, I want... I don't know.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I feel like I want more practical effects, like, to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: look more practical.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Did you see Obsession?
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, yes.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: That... Which store in Burbank? I'm obsessed with Burbank.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And the store that they buy the One Wish Willow
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is in Burbank.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Have you been?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: What's the vibe? Do they have them there?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw them on Instagram that they have them. Like, they're, like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: carrying them. And people are, like, showing up to, like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: come get them. But I had been there before. It's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: called The Green Man is the name of the store.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: That movie was superb. Superb.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so back to you. I love that movie, though.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a psychic?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: No. Really?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Mm-mm. Just your grandma looking at your palm?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Just my grandma teaching me Mary Had a Little Lamb
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and looking at my fucking palm. What do you think about,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like, synchronicities and signs and stuff like that?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Like, I want to hear more about that. It's kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of hard to, like, pinpoint different times that it's happened, but, like...
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: important events in your life, do you feel like, like
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: what about like when you got on Drag Race? Was
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: there things that lined up or was it like?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: There was always like a weird thing that I had
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: when I was a kid where like, I'd be so
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: nervous until like I was put in the situation and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: then I would have like not just a knowing, it
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: was more than that. That like, oh, this is fine.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Like this isn't, this is going to work out.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: It was, I remember with Idol, like we were waiting.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You were on American Idol, like before streaming and stuff.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So like everyone was watching that. Yeah. It was crazy.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: It was like the height of it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The last season of Randy, Paula and Simon.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it was like, we went out with a bang.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: It was like crazy. It was, it was the most
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: crazy experience I've ever done. Like, Even crazier than Drag
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Race because of how impressionable and young I was.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: How old were you?
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I was 17 while we were filming and I turned
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: 18 in the middle of filming. Because when you turn 18,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: you have to stay in the hotels by yourself. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I was with my mom the whole experience. And they
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: separated us and I'd never been away from my mom.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: It was so trippy but so needed. I needed to grow.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Up a little bit.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: But do you feel like there was, like, spiritual things
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: happening with that experience?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think things happen when you're younger to make
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: an impression enough on you to touch you as you
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: get older to make sense of it, if that makes sense. Like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: there would be things that would happen that would be like, oh,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: my God, that's fucked up.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Like, that's really fucked up. As you get older, you look.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Back and be like, oh, my God. Like, that happened
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: with this as well. Like... That's what that was probably
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: trying to tell me back then, my intuition, but I
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: was just too wrapped up in whatever was distracting me
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: at the time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Getting kicked off of the show and getting like my...
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: You know, my old YouTube videos resurfacing on Fox and, like,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: getting me kicked off. Like, it was really traumatic and, like,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: but I wasn't really thinking about, like, what really needed
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to be handled. And it was my gender journey, like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: back then. Yeah. But it was, like, I felt like
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the universe wanted me to experience a little more life before.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Because I was too distracted.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. you understand that as you get older I think.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Those are examples of when I'm like it's all meant
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to be or like everything's supposed to happen when it's
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: supposed to happen like you're just not ready to learn
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that lesson yet totally.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Whatever I believe in that shit that's real that's so
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: real yeah I do I live by that are you
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: a manifester? heavy Yeah?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Like, to what point? Like, do you do, like, vision board?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Not vision board.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I've just been, like, like, I know what I want,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: and I, like, I try, I just, I just don't
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: give up. Like, it's, like, a weird thing, but I
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: tell myself that it's, like, already there.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Like, it's weird.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I have these conversations a lot, like, with homies, but, like,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I'm always, like, I just know, and I'll do anything
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: that it takes to get there eventually, and if it's
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: meant for me, it's meant for me, and I'm not gonna, like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: You know, beat myself up if I gave it my
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: all to try to do it. Because, like, you know,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: it's just going to happen eventually if you just don't
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: give up and, like, keep.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Working at it. Yeah.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: So many, like, proven fucking, like, cases of that. Like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: everybody in the world that's.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Doing what you want to do.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: They never gave up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: It didn't just be handed to them.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: But we all have our own path, too. Sure, sure.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Because it's easy to be like, wait, this person did this,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and why isn't it working for me? But, like... I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: don't know, it's supposed to happen the way it's supposed
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to happen for you and when it's supposed to happen. Just, like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: be at peace and it'll happen.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I think as long as you're okay with that and, like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you're fine with, um, I think, like, besides fear, like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: one of the biggest things that can, like, fuck you
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: up is, like, thinking you know what timeline is gonna, like,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: what the timeline is gonna happen for your life. Like,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: when it's gonna happen and, like, planning for that to
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: happen at this because sometimes it can throw you off and, like,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: It can shake you, but I think like you can
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: work to that timeline, but like if it's something that's
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: supposed to happen for you and you're ready for it then,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: but if you're not ready for it then, you're just going.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: To like, I don't know.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I'm talking in a circle, but I really do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: No, I get what you mean for sure, and it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: like it might not be when you want it or whatever,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but just go for the ride. Yeah. Strap in. Strap on.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Strap in and strap on, bitch.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask a couple more questions because
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I'm curious just sort of your thoughts on different things. Yes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Where are you at with astrology? I love astrology. Libra.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I'm a Libra since Scorpio rising.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I'm a Libra. I don't know what the rest.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Wait, so you're not like an astrology girly? Like, okay, okay.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not. Not really, but like I like it. I'm like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: tell me everything, but... And you're very Libra. Yeah. Right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I'm very Scorpio rising too. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: have a Scorpio Venus as well. So I have like
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: a stallion of Scorpio and a stallion of Libra.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: A stallion? Like stallion. Stallion.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Three signs of the same in your like chart. So
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: it's like... I have three Libra, my sun, moon, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: my Mars is in Libra. And then I have my
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Scorpio Venus rising in Pluto.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah. And then I'll have Capricorn in Jupiter.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Have you done, like, the birth charts and, like, really
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: gone into it? Like, before, yeah. I had a friend that, like,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: was really into it. And, yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: But, like, I just like looking at, like, daily. I'm...
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I'm just a girl who reads Cosmo.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: You like the daily.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I like to see the daily and I like to
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: play with it. I think that's life.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I want to play with life. But does that affect
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: your every day? You read it and you're like, oh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: this said I'm supposed to do this today or whatever.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: No, I think it helps me play with life a
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: little bit and see like, oh, I wasn't feeling that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: But if that does happen, I'm prepared to put a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: thing to it or something and be like, oh, that's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: what that probably was. Anyway. Like, it helps you pay
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: things a little dust, like, a little bit sometimes as well.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, it can, I think. Do you think mermaids
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: are real?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah. Why not? Probably not, but why not?
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: People believe that mermaids are real. You know, the ocean
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: is mainly not discovered. Yeah. What do you feel about mermaids?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Sure!
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Give us a little fucking mermaid auction.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Why not? I think they're ugly as fuck.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Scaly. But I'm like, let's do it. Like, I love that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: The thought of.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that, like, they're human head. Yeah. Whatever. Like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I do think it's probably, like, fish head and, like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: just a weird, like all the weirdest parts of like
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a human, like weird wiener. Just a fish head and tits. Yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I think they're like, you wouldn't realize that that's what
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that is, that that's like a kind of a human.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But I think someone fucked a fish like a long
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: time ago.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And I also think like somebody's like sick fantasy of
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: like a half woman, half fish thing is who like
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: came up with that. Of course.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It's beautiful, but I feel like it's more on the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: lines of being a fish.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, sometimes on the internet you see these things. Like,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: sometimes I get in these TikTok algorithms where it's like
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: real mermaid caught on camera. And I'm like, could that be?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably AI.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: What if that is real that's why I'm scared.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Of Facebook because I'd be like a boomer at heart
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: like I'd be like believing like AI sometimes and I'm
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: like that's so mean like why do they just like
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: throw the cat like that and then like my boyfriend
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: would be like um that's AI yeah exactly what do
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: you think of past lives past lives I believe in
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: it what are your past lives what do you think
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure yet I'm not sure what my past
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: life was but I don't know I think I was
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: just like I don't know I don't even know if
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: I was human I don't.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Know Do you think you're young or old when it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: comes to like the grand scheme of how many times
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you've done this? Oh, like my spirit vibe? I think
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you're old. Yeah, you think so? I think you've done this.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I think you've done this a bunch, fooled around, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: this time you're like... It's time to get to work.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, too. I think it's, like, my
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: third or fourth time, and I'm, like, getting really tired.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My knees hurt. That's how I feel. I'm like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I better get it right this time, because I don't
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: know how many more I got.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Who wants to come back and do all of this
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: all over again?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Well, apparently we do, and that's what people believe.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, people are trying to, like, live forever. That's true.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Do you believe in Bigfoot? Bigfoot? Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I think my brain just, I'm going to go with
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: the first thing that my brain just, it just came in.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: No.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: But I mean, like, it could be, like, something.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But no.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Because I think I grew up with, like, Harry and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: the Henderson. So, like. Well, yeah, I mean.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Who looks like my grandpa. So, just kind of that vibe.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: No way. Your grandpa looks like. Down. Stop.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Down.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think of demons? Demons. Do you
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: think demons are real? Like, do you think there's, like, demonic? Forces. Um, yeah.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Really? I think there's like, I don't know if I
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: would call them demons, but I guess.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Were you raised like Christian-y?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: My mom, Jehovah's Witness. My stepdad, Jehovah's Witness.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Stop.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad, metalhead, cholo.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But, like, they were raised it. Raised.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: But, like, they didn't, like, practice it. No, they didn't
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: instill it, like, in us at all. But she practiced
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: a bit, like, when I was, like, a baby. My mom, like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: went back, like, for a little bit, but never.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: That's a hardcore one.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Never, like, instilled, like, religion in us, though. She always, like,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: we always celebrated, like, holidays because they're not allowed to
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: do that and stuff like that. And she was just
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: kind of punk rock about it all and just, like,
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: was like, they'll decide what they want when they get
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: older because she didn't really.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so cool.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty punk.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: How's your mom doing? She's good.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I was just with her on Saturday. I see her
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: on Saturday.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: She's so cool. She's good.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: We went to In-N-Out.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: What do you think about, what do you think happens
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: when we die? Simple question. I think it's just, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: think it depends on what you believe in. So you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: think it's different for everyone? I kind of think that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I kind of think it's like whatever you think happens.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And I do think that like you create your own movie.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Like I think that it's like, Yeah, not to sound
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: too woo-woo, but I feel like, yeah, I think faith
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: is that strong. And I think you can go on
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and really manifest that into a reality in the spirit.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So what's it going to be?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: What happens? I don't know. Do you want to be
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a ghost or no?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I want to be a ghost.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I really care what anybody's.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Really doing anymore. Yeah. I think I'm going to be, like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I want to, like, have, like, a cool.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: I think, like, I think my afterlife is going to be, like,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: some type of, like, half, um... I don't know. Like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: every day could be, like, one of my favorite movie
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: kind of, like, landscapes or something.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Ew, what are we getting into today?
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It's getting very, like, oh, this.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Is death-proof today, and we're going to fucking, like, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: we're going to, like... Don't murder this guy.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: You know what? I was just thinking the other day about, like,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: let's say we all die and go to, like, heaven
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Well, there's obviously, like, people I want to meet. Like, there's, like,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: famous people that I'd be like, can I meet them? But, like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: what is that like? And now what is it like
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: for them? Now, is that heaven for them that it's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: just a non-never-ending meet and greet? And, like, I just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: want to meet them. And they're like, I'm in fucking
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: heaven right now. Like, can you leave me alone? Or
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: do we think that they're, like, into it? I never
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: thought of it like that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Because once you're starting to involve other people into your heaven,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: then it starts changing things up.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: But we're all in the same place. Are we? Maybe not.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's, see, but that's sad. Like, is there a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: VIP section in heaven?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Like, can we summon the person so they can stay
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: there and like be in our heaven as well?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Because I'm going to be so pissed if it's like
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: all classes. Like I'd get up there and they're like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you don't have the wristband. You can't go.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You cannot meet Madonna right now.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: You cannot meet Marilyn Monroe. Yeah, no. I don't know.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that. Hey, speaking of, can
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I show you a haunted doll? Yes. Wait, like in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: real life? No, I have it on here. Oh, okay.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, are we going to touch it and everything? No, no.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: It's time for The Dolls Are Living. Okay, so I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: go to eBay.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And I find haunted dolls.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Wait, like real haunted dolls?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean... Yes. People sell... I mean, there's money involved.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But these people are very convinced that their dolls are haunted.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And they come in all different kinds of forms. This
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: one in particular, his name is... He doesn't have a name.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: But.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: He is going for $ 369.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: 69.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Right. So this is a pretty pricey item. Jiha, please
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: show us this nameless doll.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's... Wait, come again? That's it. Wait, you're lying.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So what we're looking at is a redheaded, muscular man
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: who's dressed... Very fulsome street fair.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Like, he's got some kind of leather suspenders or something. And, oh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: he's got, like, a dog collar. Mm-hmm. So he might
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: be into, like, some kind of pub play. Yeah. Dom
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: sub situation.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: It's giving very BDSM vibes.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And he's got on... It looks like lower eyeliner. Mm-hmm. Smoldery. Yeah. Smolden? Well,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: he's one of these... So... Every once in a while,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: these people, they sell them for all different reasons. Buy
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: this doll. It's good luck. Buy this doll. It'll save
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you from evil, whatever. This one is the kind that
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: is going to get freaky deaky. Yeah. Wait, do they
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: describe it as that? Well, yes, they do. No, they don't.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You want to hear about it? Please. From my altar
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to your hands, I offer this vessel, bound through ritual,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to a powerful current of desire and manifestation. He is
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a one-of-a-kind bound vessel, carefully prepared to help open pathways
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: for your dreams, your wishes, and your hidden fantasies to
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: take form. Yeah, I think he'll basically have sex with
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you if you want.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Like in your sleep?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It says he's hungry and he wants to taste every drop.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: For $ 300? $ 369. 69. I don't know about all that. He
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: comes clothed and ready, already carrying the essence of devotion
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and ritual fire. You will feel his watch the moment
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you invite him in. Whisper to him what you wish
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to see. And he is there to listen. He is
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: not an empty figure. He is bound, waiting, and ready.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: He will never harm or manipulate. His only purpose is
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to bring pleasure and devotion. So it doesn't really say
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: much about what he does, but he's there for your desires.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I still wouldn't touch it.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is you want, you just whisper it down
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Would you be interested in giving me a back rub?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: And he'll work it out for you.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't you be afraid that, like, somebody, like, put a
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: spell on it or something, like a sexual spell, and, like,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: you're going to touch it, and it's going to, like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: latch itself onto you or something?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Obsession 2.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Very Obsession 2.0. Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Honestly, because people constantly ask me if I want a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: haunted doll or if I own a haunted doll or whatever.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like the only way I would be into
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: it is if it was like this. Because some of
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: these ones I read, it's like, the ghost of a
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: little girl that'll breathe on your face and scratch you.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want nothing to do with that.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: People have snapped their ankles while looking at her. Yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of that. But I'm like, some guy
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: that's there to serve me, I'm fine with it. I'm bad.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I'm bad. Okay. Adore Zolano. It's time for EVPs or
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: EV Please. EVP stands for Electronic Voice Phenomenal. Okay. It's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like on a ghost hunting show when they hear a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: ghost speaking.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: That's hot.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I love that. Super hot. So I've got two of
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: them for you, and I want you to listen in.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Tell me what you hear. Okay. And then I'll give
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you an A, B, C, D options.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: One of them is what the person that posted it
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: thinks the ghost is saying. Wait, oh, you're going to, oh,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it's like a multiple choice. It'll be a multiple choice,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but let's just hear what you think first. This one
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: is from After Dark Club Paranormal ADV9095 on YouTube. What
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: is this ghost saying?
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Again?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Can you play it one more time? I couldn't make
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: what she was saying. Oh, you think it's a she? Yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I'll give you some options.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Do you think it was A, I shaved your mama?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I hope it's that one. Is it B, I came
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: here to stop him? C, I'm staying. I gotcha. Or D,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: my name is Bianca. Okay, wait. Is it C? I'm staying,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I gotcha.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: No, the one before that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I came here to stop him.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, maybe it's Bianca.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: They think it's Bianca. Bianca then?
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: No.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: They think it's my name is Bianca. Of course, she's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: already haunting us before she dies. Oh, okay, yeah. I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: hear it. I do too. And it sounds... Demonic. Yeah. Okay.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Here's one more. This one was posted by an account
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: called Michigan Ghost Watchers. And this was at the Michigan
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: State Prison. What is this ghost saying? Okay. So there's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: like definitely people talking and we're trying to listen in
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to this voice that is like closer to the microphone.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: It's like. Mm hmm. That voice, okay.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Can I.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Get the options? Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Is it A, I'm coming. B, don't cut it. C,
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: don't commit. Or D, I'm done with your shit.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: It's one of those.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: The second to the last.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Don't commit?
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yes.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: They believe. It's don't cut it. Okay, wait. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Sure.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: That's scary.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: You know what's really scary? We're done. We're done already?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Last chance, do you have any other ghost stories? Not really.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Just a haunted Stretch Armstrong.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: What is that? You don't know what a Stretch Armstrong is? No,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what a haunted Stretch Armstrong is.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: My brother and I were just really afraid of Stretch
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Armstrong because he would just hide and be in different places.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure it was just us.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Making it up. Or was it? It was a haunted doll.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: It was a haunted doll. It was that one. See,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: that's what I think Toy Story is about is haunted dolls.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: No, but explain it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was living people that are now dead
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and they're now trapped inside for eternity of these fucking dolls.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Where they kind of live.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Do you remember, was it Small Soldiers?
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. Iconic.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: They played Wannabe by Spice Girls. What a vibe.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Remember Spice World?
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Spice World, yes.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I own the VHS. I bought the VHS and a
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: VHS player so I could watch Spice World.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: They said that they're going to be able to stream
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: it soon, but they always say that, don't they?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: This happens to me every time. Something that you can't
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: find anywhere, I buy it. And then it's available everywhere.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: What is that? Bullshit. But that is, like, I think
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: there's something spiritual there. Like, if you want something available
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: to stream for free, let me buy it first.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just wait a little longer.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I just did that with Tales from the Crypt. Really?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Couldn't find Tales from the Crypt anywhere for years. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: bought the complete series on DVD, and I bought a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: DVD player to go with it. Really? Where is it
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: at now? I was going to say Shudder. Yeah, it
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: gives Shudder. Maybe it's a sign to, like, you know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: just wait a little longer what's around the corner. I guess.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, you know something else I remember about you? What? I,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: you were, like, probably the first person I ever met
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that was, like, a Elvira fan. Yes, heavy. Because I was.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And I felt like, you know, 2010, sure, there was
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of fans of hers, but, like, I feel
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: like our generation, there's been more merch since then and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: more just, like, she's around more and stuff. But I
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: feel like, like, in 2010, like, It was like you
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: really had to be in the know to love her.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: You had to really be, I don't know, someone else.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: You had to be a cool girl to kind of
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: get it before like, It was like pop culture phenomenon
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: for the kids. Before it was like Hot Topic Eyes.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Because I remember being like, wait, you like
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Elvira too?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: And you know what? She's been on this podcast.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Has she?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: She told me all her ghost stories.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Shut up. I read her book. Well, one and a
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: half times, but I love it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Cassandra.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, Cassandra.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: That's what I learned from her audio book. To say Cassandra? Yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: she says it. She says it in her audio book.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It's pronounced Cassandra. Cassandra. So he said Cassandra. If anyone
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: is watching this on YouTube, you wouldn't be able to
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: find the Cassandra Peterson episode. You'd have to go to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: the audio version wherever you get podcasts because it was
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: before we did YouTube. It was a long time ago.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going to listen to that. I'm obsessed with her.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: She has the best ghost stories.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Iconic. Even that story about, like, the murder that happened, like,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Was it across the street from the place that she
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: was living at? Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: How fucking terrifying. Very scary.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Like, I was listening to that on my walk, like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: at night. Like, oh, my God.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Like, this is fucking spooky. Yeah, it could happen anywhere. Anywhere. Well,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I think we're done. Thanks for having me. Oh, my God.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this. I'll come back anytime. Tell people, like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you know, what's going on.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I am gradually getting into the acting field. I just
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: signed with an acting agency.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. And then auditioning for stuff.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: And my birthday's coming up, so it's going to.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Be a fun little end of the year. Yeah. Cute.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, I think that's about it. Thank you
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: for having me. Oh, my God. Thanks for doing this.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: This was fun to relive some spooky past.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I'm Bianca.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I knew it. Thank you so much to Adore. Isn't
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: she lovely? I just love her so much. And she's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: got stories. She's a magical person. She really is. And
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: so are you. I love you all. Both living and dead.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: haunt me. Okay, bye! This has been an Exactly Right production.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast? I
• 52:29
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• 52:33
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• 52:43
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• 52:53
  Speaker 1: My senior producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kottner. My theme music is by
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the spine-chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lilac.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Caron. Executive produced by the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: chilling Karen Kilgariff, the spooky Georgia Hardstark, and the frightening
• 53:35
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