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Chuck Buck 1-15 Hour 3: 12th man Roundtable with Hugh Millen and Gregg Bell · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen. Happy playoffs to you both.
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Speaker 2: Great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, this is exceptional. And Hugh, it's been a
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Speaker 1: little while. I mean, it's been a little while since
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Speaker 1: we got to talk about a playoff game. It's been
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Speaker 1: even longer since we've been able to talk about a
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Speaker 1: long playoff run, something that you guys got used to
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Speaker 1: around here for a few years. So it's kind of
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Speaker 1: great to be back into that seat. Don't you think
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Speaker 1: of people talking about this team possibly winning a Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl this year?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think it was fun during the leagues in
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Speaker 3: a boom times. They were thrilling times, and hats off
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Speaker 3: to all who were involved in that. The defense had
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Speaker 3: four years in a row where they were allowing the
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Speaker 3: fewest points. That's the most in the Super Bowl era. So,
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Speaker 3: but things were kind of front loaded there. Pete Carroll
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Speaker 3: had a fourteen year career at Seattle, divided into two
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Speaker 3: seven year periods. He won nine playoff games in the
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Speaker 3: first seven years, one playoff game in the second seven
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Speaker 3: year stint there. So now it's like there was a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a lull and now it looks like
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Speaker 3: we're requesting over the last twenty five games the Seahawks
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Speaker 3: have won twenty obviously eighty percent. That is best in
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Speaker 3: the NFL. It's the second youngest team. You've got a
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Speaker 3: twenty eight year old quarterback, the rizing greg looks really
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Speaker 3: really optimistic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, number one seed and bears repeating. This is the
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Speaker 2: fourth time in team history they've had the number one seed.
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Speaker 2: The other three times are the only three times the
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Speaker 2: team has advanced to the Super Bowl twenty and five,
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Speaker 2: then thirteen and fourteen. This guy's you may know, but
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Speaker 2: some fans who may have just jumped on board here
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Speaker 2: in the last few years or decade may not know.
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Speaker 2: This is the first time This Saturday will be the
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Speaker 2: first time since January seven, twenty seventeen, the Seahawks have
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Speaker 2: played a home playoff game with fans in the stands.
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Speaker 2: The only other home playoff game they've had in that
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Speaker 2: span was at the end of the twenty twenty season,
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Speaker 2: the pandemic season, when the state of Washington didn't allow
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Speaker 2: fans to sit and watch Seahawk games all that pandemic year.
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Speaker 2: This is what Mike McDonald said out the day he
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Speaker 2: got hired. He said publicly, we want to recreate get
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Speaker 2: back to Lumenfield in the home advantage of twelves rock
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Speaker 2: in the stadium to the point day of a tangible
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Speaker 2: effect on games, and the players that have been around
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Speaker 2: a few days have been talking about that this week.
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Speaker 2: Jared Reid issued a challenge to Seahawks fans yesterday, saying
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Speaker 2: we need to get this place rock and he wants
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Speaker 2: to break the little meter that they have on the
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Speaker 2: one of the side scoreboards about noise. He said, he
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Speaker 2: thinks it's one oh nine as the highest he's ever
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Speaker 2: seen that meter get up to. He wants fans Saturday
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Speaker 2: night to break that meter. Cooper Cup talked about when
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Speaker 2: they Cupp was a member of the Rams in twenty twenty,
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Speaker 2: that team that came up with John Wolford of all people,
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Speaker 2: the quarterback, beat the Seahawks as a six seed in
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Speaker 2: that playoff game with no fans in and he said
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Speaker 2: that day it leveled the play field that the Rams,
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Speaker 2: especially on third down, could hear in the huddle and
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Speaker 2: there were no communication issues and they didn't have to
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Speaker 2: take extra time to repeat. He says, when it's usually
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Speaker 2: rolling in Seattle, the crowd makes the quarterback have to
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Speaker 2: repeat the signals and the calls in the huddle because
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Speaker 2: they can't hear each other in the huddle, and that
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Speaker 2: four or three or four seconds it takes to do
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Speaker 2: that is three or four seconds fewer than he has
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Speaker 2: at the line for his coach to talk in the
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Speaker 2: headset the helmet speaker, for the quarterback to assess the
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Speaker 2: defense before the playcock ends. So there's a tangible effect
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Speaker 2: here that the fans can have. Leonard Williams also aditeddendum
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Speaker 2: to Jaron Reid's challenge the fans, when you're going to
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Speaker 2: scream and yell and make it the loudest, do it
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Speaker 2: when the forty nine ers are entering the huddle, not
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Speaker 2: when they're breaking it for the reasons I just describe
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Speaker 2: of Cooper Cup and the communication issue during the huddle.
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Speaker 2: So the point is the Seahawks, as you mentioned, have
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Speaker 2: come full circle. They're back to where they were at
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Speaker 2: the legion of Boon times with a number one seed
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Speaker 2: in home playoff games, with the crowd having a chance
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Speaker 2: to have a tangible effect on whether this team goes
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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl or not.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we've got tacnical, tactical and tangible things
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Speaker 1: to discuss. But I just following a little bit along
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Speaker 1: these lines, and then we'll move on Mike McDonald's first
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Speaker 1: time as a head coach. I know, in the NBA, Hugh,
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Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jordan had to have his take his lumps,
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Speaker 1: and then he learned how to win in the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: and he had to learn that from Bird who had
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Speaker 1: to take his lumps, and so on and so forth.
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Speaker 1: Do you see any reason why Mike McDonald needs to
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Speaker 1: take some lumps here or that he can't win a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl his first time at the dance? No, I
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Speaker 1: don't see it at all.
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Speaker 3: I think that Seattle catches a break in all the
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Speaker 3: injuries that we know the forty nine ers have had
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Speaker 3: to incur, but they're they're playing it at home. They've
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Speaker 3: earned the number one spot, and I think that with
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Speaker 3: the rest, and we can talk about some of the
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Speaker 3: the advantages of rest. I mean, you know, the forty
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Speaker 3: nine ers are coming in with Officially, the NFL calculates
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Speaker 3: a five days rest playoffs. Since twenty twenty, teams with
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Speaker 3: six or more days of rest versus exactly five days
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Speaker 3: of rest are thirteen and six. And so you've got
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Speaker 3: that component, and then you've just got a very healthy defense.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Greg will give us an update on Kobe Bryant.
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Speaker 3: But if you'd have told me in July August that
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Speaker 3: you'd be playing that you're the number one seed, playing
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Speaker 3: at home against a team that's in the forty nine
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Speaker 3: ers of multiple Hall of Famers out of the game,
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Speaker 3: and you're this healthy, I think they in year two,
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Speaker 3: they have they have learned this is a complex defense.
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Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence came in it says, man, you need a PhD.
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Speaker 3: But the the education piece, Mike McDonald is so good
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Speaker 3: at that that, you know, I mean, here's hearing his
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Speaker 3: press conference yesterday's quoting Einstein. You know, keep it as
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Speaker 3: simple as possible, but no simpler. Well his idea of
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Speaker 3: as simple as possible is pretty damn complex. But yet
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Speaker 3: the teaching, the repetition, Uh, you know, these guys will
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Speaker 3: make adjustments on the flies. Uh, you know, based on formations,
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Speaker 3: based on shifts, movement. They they can they can have
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Speaker 3: defensive audibles that that that they're all on the same
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Speaker 3: page with. So I think at this juncture with the rest,
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Speaker 3: with the culmination being healthy, I don't see any reason
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Speaker 3: why you say, well, Mike McDonald's got to take a
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Speaker 3: few shots on the tin before he can do anything
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Speaker 3: in the postseason. I think quite the contrary. I think
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Speaker 3: that they're going to just be accelerating right on to
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Speaker 3: the NFC Championship game next weekend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, if Mike's considered a genius in some circles
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Speaker 1: and Shanahan's considered a genius in some circles, maybe they
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Speaker 1: counsel each other out on Saturday Night. But talk to
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Speaker 1: a huge point about just how many players the forty
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Speaker 1: nine Ers are missing versus how many players the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: aren't missing, and how that affects a Saturday night's game.
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Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, I think it affects it hugely.
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Speaker 2: Well, well, first of all, they didn't cancel each other
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Speaker 2: out of January. Third, Mike McDonald got up two on that,
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Speaker 2: and big thing about the rest. Before we move to
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Speaker 2: the injuries. This thirteen days the Seahawks have played. When
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Speaker 2: they kick off Saturday, it'll be thirteen days between games.
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Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers will have five games. Since the
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Speaker 2: NFL changed their playoff format to this current one, teams
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Speaker 2: are seven and oh. In that situation, a by team
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Speaker 2: thirteen days in a division round means you to the
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Speaker 2: number one seed. Right. The number one Seeds facing a
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Speaker 2: team that's had five days between games are seven and
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Speaker 2: oh so to huge point, this is optimal for Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald and his team. The injury situation. Ricky Pearsol is
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Speaker 2: back in San Francisco, has been practicing all weeks. Look
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Speaker 2: like the wide receiver hasn't played much at all this year.
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Speaker 2: Will play. Fred Warner's not going to play. He did
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Speaker 2: come back to the All Pro linebacker, did come back
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Speaker 2: to practice this week off injury reserve, but it's an
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Speaker 2: achilles issue. They want to practice him at least a
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Speaker 2: week or more. The forty nine Ers and Mike Kyle
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Speaker 2: Shanahan have said perhaps if they get to the NFC
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Speaker 2: Championship game January twenty fifth, Warner maybe could plan that.
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Speaker 2: Trent Williams looks like he's going to play. He practiced
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Speaker 2: more yesterday than he did the day before he came
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Speaker 2: back from the hamstring injury that he missed the January
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Speaker 2: third game against the Seahawks with. He came back to
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Speaker 2: play the Eagles last week and it was a by
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Speaker 2: all account's a huge boost for the forty nine Ers
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Speaker 2: offense to have Trent Williams still know Nick Bosa, the
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Speaker 2: All Pro edg rusher who wrecked the end of the
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Speaker 2: opener game, and the reason why the Seahawks didn't win
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Speaker 2: the opener is because Nick Bosa pushed a Lucas into
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold, causing a fumble. So there are still big
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Speaker 2: holes in this defense. And Epton Stout was heard coming
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Speaker 2: into the last game the nickelback is now fully healthy.
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Speaker 2: That's one plus in San Francisco's favor on defense. But
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Speaker 2: there are plays to be had down the field. This
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Speaker 2: is a team that was had the fewest sacks in
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Speaker 2: the NFL during the regular season, mainly because Warner and
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Speaker 2: Bosa were not available. And I think you're going to
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Speaker 2: see Clint Kubiak and Sam Darnold taking more shots down
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Speaker 2: the field than they did January third. I don't think
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks can expect to have one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 2: yards rushing. I think the forty nine ers are going
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Speaker 2: to change up their fronts, maybe run blitz, do things
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Speaker 2: differently than they did two weeks ago. But on the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks side, Kobe Bryant has practiced fully in both practices
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Speaker 2: this week is a good chance he's going to play
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Speaker 2: for the first time in about a month knee. It's
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Speaker 2: at safety, although Tyle Katta has been very good playing
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Speaker 2: for him. Charles Cross had something of a setback yesterday.
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Speaker 2: They added a new knee issue on top of the
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Speaker 2: hamstring issue he had. He went from a full participate
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Speaker 2: on Tuesday to a limited one yesterday, so we'll see
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Speaker 2: if that affects him in the game or not. Josh
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Speaker 2: Jones has been very good in the three games he
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Speaker 2: had to play left tackle with the Seahawks' best three
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Speaker 2: running games of the season have been the three that
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Speaker 2: Josh Jones had to start for Cross at left tackle.
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Speaker 2: But the guys that have been nicked up and playing hurt,
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Speaker 2: those are the ones that are going to benefit most
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Speaker 2: by this playoff bye week. Everyone and that's everyone, including
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Speaker 2: Sam Donald, is banged up in some way at this
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Speaker 2: time of year, which is why the one seeds get
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Speaker 2: to buy and it's a huge advantage.
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Speaker 1: Craig Bell and Hugh Millan with us. It's our twelfth
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Speaker 1: Man Roundtable Playoff edition right here on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to wait any longer to just ask this question
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Speaker 1: and get this conversation started because we have to have
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Speaker 1: it last two times. Last time this team these two
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Speaker 1: teams played, it was just a ten point game. But
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Speaker 1: obviously we all know how dominant the Seahawks defense was
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Speaker 1: on that day. So Hugh does it go from here
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Speaker 1: in terms of we're expecting Shannahan adjustments? What could those
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Speaker 1: look like? And then how does Mike McDonald then counteract
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Speaker 1: adjustments that he doesn't know are going to happen. But
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Speaker 1: he obviously read his mind, read his playbook two weeks
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Speaker 1: ago and kind of figured out what Shanahan was thinking.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's certainly a big part of what
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's thinking is. Okay, what is the adjustment going
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Speaker 3: to be? One of them could be that if you
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Speaker 3: look at Rock Purdy in my mind's eye, he's really
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Speaker 3: good at intermediate throws over the middle air yards twelve
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Speaker 3: to twenty five. He normally averages one hundred and eleven yards.
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Speaker 3: In those three weeks leading up to Seattle, that's when
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Speaker 3: the defense got hot. There were none against Seattle, zero completion,
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Speaker 3: zero yards. Obviously, I think the run scheme, they ran
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Speaker 3: it ten time to running backs and there was a
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Speaker 3: drawing there, but they were all inside zones of only
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Speaker 3: one gap scheme a counter left that Derek Hall blew
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Speaker 3: up and along with Jaron Reid, he may do more
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Speaker 3: of that. They had some pin and poll stuff that
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Speaker 3: they threw it on an RPO instead. So I think
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Speaker 3: there may be some more complexity, as I said, gap
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Speaker 3: scheme in the running game. But you know, they they
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Speaker 3: may try and take more shots down the field because
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Speaker 3: here you had in Perty only one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 3: seven yards passing.
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Speaker 2: I believe so.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I've been watching the tape. I went back
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Speaker 3: and rewatched the tape. Seattle was just on it. Look
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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers they averaged for the season one
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Speaker 3: hundred and eleven yards yards after the catch. In their
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Speaker 3: passing game they had by far their lowest against Seattle,
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Speaker 3: just fifty yards. McCaffrey only averaged two and a half yards.
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Speaker 3: So in everything that Seattle did, the Sales mainly his
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Speaker 3: zone team for the season eighty point four percent zone.
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Speaker 3: But when they played man to man they played a
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Speaker 3: man a man nine plays the forty nine ers average eighteen. Well,
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Speaker 3: we don't have to drag a calculator on that average,
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Speaker 3: like it's just every single thing worked it has to
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Speaker 3: be dismayed for Kyle Shannan, it's got to be encouraging
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Speaker 3: for Mike McDonald and you know, and I would say
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Speaker 3: Seattle has a challenge in this. At home, the numbers
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Speaker 3: are the numbers. The defense has average giving up three
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty one yards away just two forty six.
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Speaker 3: At home they give up twenty points away fourteen points.
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Speaker 3: Those are significant differences. It does speak to the challenge
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Speaker 3: that the Seahawks have communicating defensively. Now you know that's
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Speaker 3: heavily on the Tampa Bay and the ram. You know
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Speaker 3: prat falls that you know, defensively and they you can say, well,
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Speaker 3: they happened to be at home. But I think that
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Speaker 3: Seahow's done a really good job, or at least they're
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Speaker 3: attempting to do a good job to be able to
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Speaker 3: rectify that and solve the communication problems because undoubtedly they
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Speaker 3: want the noise cascading down on those forty nine er years.
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Speaker 3: And so those are a couple of things I'm sure
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Speaker 3: that he's thinking about.
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Speaker 2: Greg. They do a lot of hand signals, now that
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Speaker 2: was part of pre snap. You'll see the Seahawks defenders
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Speaker 2: do a lot of hand signals. That was in season adjustment.
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Speaker 2: They went way more on hand signals this year than
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Speaker 2: last because the team was having their better team and
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Speaker 2: they're having more success at home, and the noise was
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Speaker 2: affecting the defense. I look for San Francisco to be
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Speaker 2: different in run defense. One hundred eighty yards rushing for
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks January, third team by farther most of the season.
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Speaker 2: The last three games have been their best three rushing games,
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Speaker 2: but against the forty nine ers the forty nine ers
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Speaker 2: that night, I went through and watched all the tape
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Speaker 2: sixty seven offensive plays. The forty nine ers were in
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Speaker 2: too high safety. Thirty five of those plays they were
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Speaker 2: single high, sometimes shifting from two to single high at
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Speaker 2: the snap thirty two times. Then you look at that
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Speaker 2: and you go, okay, well what happened? By half? In
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Speaker 2: the first half, the majority of plays were in too
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Speaker 2: high and the Seahawks ran in a lighter box for
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen yards in the first half. That
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Speaker 2: was the most yards they had rushing in two seasons
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Speaker 2: in the first half of a game. Second half, Robert
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Speaker 2: Sawell went the majority of the time to single high,
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Speaker 2: so he shifted at halftime and brought a safety down
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Speaker 2: into the box. But the most important play of the
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Speaker 2: second half the third and seventeen run by Kenneth Walker
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Speaker 2: for nineteen yards that Jake Bobo took out three guys
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Speaker 2: on on the edge that led to the clinching field goal.
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Speaker 2: It created a two score game again and where the
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Speaker 2: defensive playing game was over because it was third and seventeen.
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Speaker 2: That was a too high safety coverage for San Francisco
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Speaker 2: expecting pass and Clint Kubiak beat him schematically with a run.
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Speaker 2: So how much more will San Francisco go to one
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Speaker 2: high and bring a safety down in the box to
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Speaker 2: stop the run? If they do it, you know that
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Speaker 2: Kubiak and Donald are going to look to throw the
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Speaker 2: ball down the field against a team that doesn't have
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Speaker 2: a pass rush. So that's the yin and yang of
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Speaker 2: Saturday night. Will Shanahan and Robert Salad change their defense
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Speaker 2: to stop the run because they got gashed so much
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Speaker 2: in January third and if they do, the Seahawks have
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Speaker 2: the NFL's leading receiver and a speedy Pro Bowl kick
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Speaker 2: returner who hasn't really been unleashed in the pass game
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Speaker 2: yet and oh Rashishihi and oh, by the way, a
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Speaker 2: tight end who has six touchdown catches this season. I
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Speaker 2: think it would be to the forty nine ers detriment
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Speaker 2: and perhaps no seasonal end if they stack the box
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Speaker 2: and try to go more one high and stop the
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Speaker 2: run this time. I think the Seahawks are in line
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Speaker 2: for a shootout and throwing the ball down the field
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Speaker 2: against this team if they do that. So we'll see
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Speaker 2: how much they want to hedge toward run defense. And
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Speaker 2: if they do, I think the Seahawks are going to
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Speaker 2: light it up in the pass game all right.
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Speaker 3: So there's some numbers there I think to reflect that
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Speaker 3: conversation Greg. First of all, Seattle, Well, you take completions
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Speaker 3: of fifty or more yards, the Seahawks have seven, that's
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Speaker 3: number one in the NFL, but they have not had
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Speaker 3: any since Week twelve. They had two against the Titans.
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Speaker 3: Haven't seen any since then. We've been doing a lot
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Speaker 3: of handwringing about turnovers. As I've cited previously, If you
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Speaker 3: go to correlation over the last six seasons since two thousand,
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Speaker 3: the correlation to interceptions is actually just point zero thirty three.
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Speaker 3: That's next to nothing, and in fact it has an
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Speaker 3: incrementally positive correlation, meaning the more interceptions you throw, the
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Speaker 3: more you win. Meanwhile, I contrast thirty three to yards
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Speaker 3: per dropback six seventy three correlation to winning and Sam
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Speaker 3: Donald's number one in that for the season. So I
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Speaker 3: think one area where you look at this is down
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Speaker 3: in the red zone, in the red zone fringe. That's
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Speaker 3: the forty to the twenty Seahawks. Over the last three games,
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Speaker 3: they've cranked up the running game on average in one
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Speaker 3: hundred and seventy that's wonderful. But down in the red
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Speaker 3: zone this materialized against the forty nine ers. Down in
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Speaker 3: the red zone Seattle for the last three games, the
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Speaker 3: red zone scoring percentage differential, Seattle's dead last in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: They've got to get some points here. Obviously, Myers has
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Speaker 3: got to kick his make his field goals, win attempted.
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Speaker 3: But here's a couple of things. Shots to the end
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Speaker 3: zone the Broncos have they're the number one seed in
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Speaker 3: the AFC. When they get in the red zone fringe,
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Speaker 3: they got thirteen passes into the end zone for Seattle
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Speaker 3: just has just four. But here's another point, air yards
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Speaker 3: fifteen plush. When Donald, you get down the red zone
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Speaker 3: fringe and you say, let's take some chunks fifteen plus
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Speaker 3: air yards. Donald has a passer rating of one hundred
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Speaker 3: and forty five, that's first in the NFL, but he
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Speaker 3: only has eighteen attempts. Contrast that to the Rams and Stafford.
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Speaker 3: They have thirty nine, more than double. The point is
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Speaker 3: these numbers are pointing to me as like, Okay, as
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Speaker 3: Greg said, if there's gonna be single high safeties, then
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have one on one opportunities. You're gonna have
19:21
Speaker 3: an opportunity to take some shots down the field that
19:24
Speaker 3: we haven't seen. Even if it's Cover four, which is
19:26
Speaker 3: a two deep structure that's San Francisco's number one coverage
19:30
Speaker 3: for the season, there's some opportunities to hit post routes.
19:35
Speaker 3: If you get into the right formation in a two
19:36
Speaker 3: by two, send the slot to clear out the safety
19:39
Speaker 3: and you get one on what the corner that worked
19:41
Speaker 3: against the Steelers, that worked against the the Jaguars' that's
19:45
Speaker 3: worked a number of times this season, just haven't seen
19:48
Speaker 3: them in a while. I think, if anything, you come
19:50
Speaker 3: into this game say and hey, our defense is so
19:53
Speaker 3: good that we can afford to deal with the turnover.
19:57
Speaker 3: If it hap. If it happens, let's go try and
20:01
Speaker 3: big game hunt, go get some points.
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Speaker 1: Well, we got Hugh Milling, we got Greg Bell. I
20:06
Speaker 1: do want to hear what Hugh thinks about the idea
20:09
Speaker 1: of opening up the offense on Saturday night. Also, we
20:12
Speaker 1: should discuss in our next segment how the San Francisco
20:16
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers attack changes without their future Hall of
20:19
Speaker 1: Fame tied end. So we'll get into a few other things,
20:22
Speaker 1: of course, before the end of the hour. It's our
20:24
Speaker 1: twelve man Roundtable Playoff edition right here on Chuck and
20:27
Speaker 1: Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Of course,
20:31
Speaker 1: we lean very heavily this time of the week on
20:33
Speaker 1: our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell from the News Tribune, and
20:36
Speaker 1: also our QB one here at KJR, that is Hugh
20:40
Speaker 1: millon Seahawks and the forty nine Er is going to
20:42
Speaker 1: do battle this Saturday night, five o'clock kickoff. It will
20:46
Speaker 1: be on Fox for those that don't make it to
20:48
Speaker 1: the game, but obviously people are chewing through the walls
20:52
Speaker 1: to get to this game. It's gonna be great weather,
20:54
Speaker 1: it sounds like on Saturday night, and it's gonna be
20:56
Speaker 1: some fantastic drama. We kind of discussed Greg brought up
21:02
Speaker 1: Hugh and maybe opening up the offense a little bit,
21:05
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see Sam Darnold be aggressive. Tie that into
21:10
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and the pressure that apparently people are placing
21:14
Speaker 1: on him, that he's gone a lifetime without playing well
21:18
Speaker 1: in these scenarios. It has to play well in this game.
21:22
Speaker 1: On Saturday night, I.
21:23
Speaker 3: Thought he'd crossed that hurdle when Seattle beat the Rams
21:27
Speaker 3: on the Amazon, because that was a big game, right yeah,
21:30
Speaker 3: And then I thought, okay, well, now let's stop talking
21:33
Speaker 3: about the big game. Well then nope, they kept talking
21:35
Speaker 3: about it. And then I don't say he won it,
21:38
Speaker 3: but he quarterback the Seahawks to a win against the
21:42
Speaker 3: forty nine ers. I think the goalpost keeps changing for
21:45
Speaker 3: some reason on this guy, you know, and go back
21:47
Speaker 3: to last year on December twenty ninth. Does that sound
21:50
Speaker 3: late in the season? Does to me? It's after Christmas.
21:53
Speaker 3: I'll just submit to you this logical syllogism. If you
21:58
Speaker 3: are on the shoulders of your teammates in the locker
22:03
Speaker 3: after a game, then you just won a big game.
22:07
Speaker 3: Like that's inarguable. And yet you can look just YouTube
22:10
Speaker 3: search it Vikings locker room after Packers because they were
22:14
Speaker 3: fighting the winning this division in the history of football,
22:17
Speaker 3: the NFC North last year. So this guy's had to
22:20
Speaker 3: win big games, and he's won a lot of them.
22:24
Speaker 3: But I think it's just I'm certain now if they
22:27
Speaker 3: win the forty nine er game, they'll say, well, forty
22:30
Speaker 3: nine's were depleted. He still hasn't won a big games.
22:33
Speaker 3: So I don't know. But you know, as far as
22:35
Speaker 3: the turnovers, obviously fewer turnovers is going to be better
22:40
Speaker 3: than more turnovers. But let's I wanted to run. I
22:43
Speaker 3: ran some correlation for the total regular season those correlations.
22:47
Speaker 3: But let me make it easier if you're not a
22:52
Speaker 3: correlation function. Guy, one hundred and fifteen playoff games in
22:57
Speaker 3: the last ten years, discounting this year, say we'll win
23:00
Speaker 3: the turnover battle. If you win the turnover battle, fifty
23:04
Speaker 3: eight out of one hundred and fifteen have won. Winners
23:07
Speaker 3: have won the turnover. That's fifty point four percent. That's half. Meanwhile,
23:13
Speaker 3: yards per play differential the winner seventy seven out of
23:17
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen, that's sixty seven percent. Passer rating
23:21
Speaker 3: differential of one hundred and fifteen games, the winner had
23:26
Speaker 3: the better quarterback passer rating ninety out of one hundred
23:31
Speaker 3: and fifteen. That's seventy eight percent. So there's a third
23:33
Speaker 3: down conversion How about this? Why don't we say, let's
23:36
Speaker 3: win the third down conversion percentage battle? If you do
23:40
Speaker 3: seventy eight out of one hundred and fifteen, Like, there's
23:42
Speaker 3: other battles you want to win too. So at an event,
23:47
Speaker 3: I think that Sam Donald, yes, he wants to avoid turnovers.
23:51
Speaker 3: You can't be paralyzed by that. I know that Mike
23:54
Speaker 3: McDonald tells us over and over again. I tell Sam Donald,
23:58
Speaker 3: this is McDonald speaking. I tell him just keep fire,
24:02
Speaker 3: just keep firing your gun, go, you know, words to
24:05
Speaker 3: that effect. So at any event, he'll win this. And
24:08
Speaker 3: I'm sure that the narrative will maintain that he hasn't
24:10
Speaker 3: won a big game. I don't really got to win
24:13
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. I guess then they'll say he hasn't
24:15
Speaker 3: won two.
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Speaker 1: So Greg, how do they reconcile this?
24:19
Speaker 2: Then?
24:19
Speaker 1: I mean, your defense couldn't be playing better heading into
24:21
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and you know, usually when you have a
24:25
Speaker 1: great defense, you know you don't want to lose the
24:27
Speaker 1: turnover battle and open up a door for anybody. You
24:30
Speaker 1: did commit turnovers during the regular season. But my guess
24:34
Speaker 1: is that they're not going to change anything that Sam does,
24:37
Speaker 1: and from your comment, maybe they actually open it up
24:40
Speaker 1: for Sam on Saturday night.
24:43
Speaker 2: I get the feeling you really like Sam Darnold and
24:45
Speaker 2: got that impression over the last State mine.
24:47
Speaker 3: I think he's gotten an unfair RAM. I mean, the
24:51
Speaker 3: guy is the guy in the last in the last
24:54
Speaker 3: four years for what he's forty I'm losing track of
24:58
Speaker 3: all the wins, but thirty two and nine in his
25:01
Speaker 3: last forty one starts with you know, he has won
25:04
Speaker 3: a substantial more higher percentage and produced produced one hundred
25:11
Speaker 3: passer ratings at at I believe sixty three percent Pat
25:16
Speaker 3: Mahomes over that same period is like thirty nine percent
25:20
Speaker 3: one hundred rating. He's he's lost, uh last more games Mahomes.
25:25
Speaker 3: He's had far fewer one hundred passer rating games, like
25:28
Speaker 3: he's the best quarterback of the generation. I don't know
25:30
Speaker 3: my this is. This is another Rubicon. Though he has
25:36
Speaker 3: been in the league for eight years and.
25:37
Speaker 2: Never won a playoff games. He played one last year
25:40
Speaker 2: again Minnesota, and they sacked him. The Rams sacked him
25:42
Speaker 2: nine times, and they run him out of the playoffs
25:45
Speaker 2: and there goes a fourteen and three fourteen and two
25:47
Speaker 2: season to start. So there is this that is real.
25:51
Speaker 2: But look, here's here's what I think the January third
25:55
Speaker 2: game will have an effect on Kubiak and McDonald On
25:57
Speaker 2: Sunday Saturday night, McDonald is in Bolden now that our
26:02
Speaker 2: defense can win games by itself. So let's unleash the quarterback.
26:07
Speaker 2: And he calls it the cost of doing business, and
26:11
Speaker 2: but be smarter on where they do it. Don't throw
26:15
Speaker 2: the ball deep down the field or put it in jeopardy,
26:17
Speaker 2: as mcdonaldke's to say, when the ball's at your own twenty,
26:21
Speaker 2: because then the turnover and it's just a thirty forty
26:24
Speaker 2: yard field and the Buccaneers and the Rams beat you
26:26
Speaker 2: that way for two of your three losses. Do it
26:29
Speaker 2: when you're closer to midfield. So rely on the run game.
26:33
Speaker 2: If it works as well or even happed as well
26:35
Speaker 2: as it did against the forty nine ers two weeks ago.
26:37
Speaker 2: I on the run game to get you to midfield
26:39
Speaker 2: and then take your shots thirty plus yards down the field,
26:41
Speaker 2: so that if the forty nine ers intercept it, they
26:44
Speaker 2: got to go eighty yards. The whole reason that the
26:47
Speaker 2: Seahawks went for an on fourth and goal with the
26:49
Speaker 2: four on the very first drive of the game. McDonald
26:52
Speaker 2: admitted after the game, I should use the word acknowledge,
26:54
Speaker 2: not admitted that we didn't think the forty nine ers
26:58
Speaker 2: are going to drive ninety seven yards on us, And
27:00
Speaker 2: in fact, we thought if we don't get it here,
27:02
Speaker 2: we're going to get the ball back in scoring position
27:04
Speaker 2: anyway on the next drive. So why don't get two
27:06
Speaker 2: chances to score instead of one? And that's exactly what happened.
27:09
Speaker 2: The next drive after a three and out stop, the
27:12
Speaker 2: defense stopped the forty nine ers no tracks against the
27:14
Speaker 2: own goal line of Seahawks got a drive start at
27:16
Speaker 2: their plus thirty five and went in and scored the
27:19
Speaker 2: only touchdown of the game. So I think that's where
27:21
Speaker 2: you're going to see the offense open up. If the
27:24
Speaker 2: Seahawks can get to midfield, which I'm sure they're going to,
27:27
Speaker 2: then you're going to see the deep balls down the field,
27:29
Speaker 2: and the cost of doing business could come into play there.
27:33
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. No matter what they do differently with
27:35
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, no matter what they do, that Ricky Piersol
27:38
Speaker 2: is now back. No matter how what, Rock Purty's four
27:41
Speaker 2: to zero in Seattle in his career. I'm pretty sure
27:44
Speaker 2: McDonald's going to gain plan this to thinking that the
27:46
Speaker 2: forty nine ers aren't having eighty five yeard drives to
27:48
Speaker 2: score touchdowns more than maybe what's in this game, and
27:52
Speaker 2: so bring the offense pushing it down the field to
27:55
Speaker 2: where they can score more than one touchdown and they
27:57
Speaker 2: probably win the game. It's a very simplistic way looking
28:00
Speaker 2: at it, but I think that's where you'll see the
28:01
Speaker 2: Seahawks shots on Saturday.
28:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's some things going on that I think
28:06
Speaker 3: we're kind of vaguely aware of. But I want to
28:10
Speaker 3: bring some focus into this because this is these these
28:15
Speaker 3: numbers are impacting the NFL game substantially. Greg just aptly
28:21
Speaker 3: noted that the Seahawks on their first drive went down
28:23
Speaker 3: to the four yard land, they went for it, and
28:26
Speaker 3: they stopped them, got the punt, and and we're able
28:30
Speaker 3: to score a touchdown. Coach, so you could almost kind
28:32
Speaker 3: of say that sequence did lead to seven points. Go
28:36
Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty three drive starts. Now, this is
28:40
Speaker 3: the NFL stat portal. I don't know why they do
28:42
Speaker 3: thirty one, but they did thirty one yard line or more.
28:45
Speaker 3: Got me six point six percent of this is two
28:48
Speaker 3: years ago, six point six percent of the time drives
28:52
Speaker 3: started the thirty one or beyond. Then last year it
28:57
Speaker 3: got up to fourteen point one percent. This year twenty
29:00
Speaker 3: twenty five, fifty one point one percent of drive start
29:05
Speaker 3: the thirty one. That's never in the history of the
29:08
Speaker 3: NFL has have we had a drive start. That's changing
29:11
Speaker 3: the kickoff rules. The kick changing the kickoff rules. So
29:15
Speaker 3: when you're looking at field goals and if you're kind
29:18
Speaker 3: of a little bit harden, you're an old school football fan,
29:20
Speaker 3: and you go, why aren't they kicking a field goal here?
29:23
Speaker 3: It's because that these coaches know, they're having these analytics
29:28
Speaker 3: advisors in there, and they're saying, look, that value of
29:32
Speaker 3: three points isn't nearly what it was because of where
29:37
Speaker 3: your opponent is going to get the ball after a kickoff.
29:40
Speaker 3: So that is going to play I'm not saying it's
29:43
Speaker 3: going to play a part in the Seahawk forty nine
29:46
Speaker 3: er game, but I promise you from this day forward
29:48
Speaker 3: to the end of the Super Bowl, it's going to
29:50
Speaker 3: play a part in a lot of decisions that we
29:53
Speaker 3: watch and be aware of this, like, that's an incredible
29:58
Speaker 3: surge in field position.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating, and that is exactly what Mike McDonald coached the game.
30:04
Speaker 2: Like in Santa Clara, he mentioned twice now that the
30:08
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers had the best starting position in the
30:10
Speaker 2: NFL on offense entering that game. So when he backed
30:13
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers up with a fourth and goal
30:15
Speaker 2: at the four, he says, Hey, if we don't get it,
30:17
Speaker 2: they're going to be like minus thirty from where they
30:20
Speaker 2: usually average their starting to We don't think they're going
30:23
Speaker 2: to gain those thirty yards on our defense. That's why
30:26
Speaker 2: they went for and they'll do it again on Saturday
30:28
Speaker 2: for the same reason because of what he was just
30:31
Speaker 2: mentioning three points becomes a tie game or worse, after
30:36
Speaker 2: a kickoff. If you go for a touchdown and you
30:38
Speaker 2: don't score, you're not starting at the thirty five or
30:41
Speaker 2: plus like the forty nine ers had been all season
30:44
Speaker 2: because of the Seahawks defense. They can play that way
30:47
Speaker 2: if they had a defense, that changes everything. And I
30:50
Speaker 2: think that's the advantage in see the Attle thinks it
30:52
Speaker 2: has again coming into this game.
30:54
Speaker 1: I like it I like what I'm hearing. Fascinating stuff.
30:56
Speaker 1: All right, tell one more segment twelve Man round Table
30:59
Speaker 1: with Greg and Hughes NEX Sports Radio ninety three point
31:01
Speaker 1: three KJRFM.
31:02
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be gone the rest of day at Seahawks.
31:04
Speaker 1: Oh so you're making brownies, you're checking out. It's everyone's
31:07
Speaker 1: wives birthdays.
31:08
Speaker 4: Everybody's wife's, Spencer Hawes's wife's birthday. Oh definitely not.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you had to check. Twelve Man Roundtable final segment,
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Speaker 1: Hugh mellon Greg Bell with us as we get ready
31:22
Speaker 1: and get you ready for Seahawks forty nine ers on
31:25
Speaker 1: Saturday night. Also, want to let you know Greg's got
31:27
Speaker 1: a specialty show. I don't know if brownies will be included.
31:30
Speaker 1: They might be gone by then, but seven to nine
31:32
Speaker 1: on Friday, Greg's just going full scale Seahawks getting ready
31:36
Speaker 1: for the playoff specialty show right here on our airwaves
31:39
Speaker 1: at KJR following the award winning Dave and Richard Faine
31:46
Speaker 1: radio show on Friday night. So make sure you check
31:49
Speaker 1: in for all of that. All right, Greg, get us started.
31:52
Speaker 1: What are we going to see on Saturday night? What's
31:56
Speaker 1: the keys? What's the result?
31:59
Speaker 2: The keys are stopping Christian McCaffrey. He especially with George
32:03
Speaker 2: Kittle out, he's going to be a bigger part of
32:05
Speaker 2: the pass game than he was. January third, he had
32:08
Speaker 2: six catches for thirty four yards. Nick Emon Worry was
32:12
Speaker 2: on him more than the same the forty nine Ers
32:14
Speaker 2: coaches thought he would be. And we've talked about Emon
32:17
Speaker 2: Worry and how he's an anecdote to a guy like McCaffrey.
32:20
Speaker 2: Those six catches for just thirty four yards were the
32:22
Speaker 2: most catches with the fewest yards and no touchdowns that
32:26
Speaker 2: McCaffrey had since Christmas Night twenty twenty three. Against Mike
32:31
Speaker 2: McDonald's defense, the Baltimore Ravens his eight. McCaffrey's eight rushes
32:36
Speaker 2: for twenty three yards on January third, his fewest yards
32:40
Speaker 2: rushing since the end of his second season twenty eighteen
32:43
Speaker 2: December twenty eighteen, when he was playing with the Carolina Panthers.
32:47
Speaker 2: They have to feature him more. They have to give
32:50
Speaker 2: him the ball more than eight times on the ground
32:53
Speaker 2: and six times in the past game. The Seahawks are
32:56
Speaker 2: going to do the same thing when they go zone.
33:00
Speaker 2: They're going to keep the McCaffrey in front of when
33:02
Speaker 2: they go man, they're going to put Emon Worry on him.
33:04
Speaker 2: And even when they go zone, Emon Warry is going
33:06
Speaker 2: to be the guy who runs out and gets McCaffrey
33:09
Speaker 2: after he catches the pass. Emon Worry is the guy
33:12
Speaker 2: that can be the anecdote again to the San Francisco offense,
33:16
Speaker 2: they are not The Seahawks are not going to hold
33:18
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers to three points. Again. They're not
33:20
Speaker 2: gonna hold into one hundred and seventy three yards, which
33:22
Speaker 2: means the Seahawks need to score more than one touchdown.
33:24
Speaker 2: I think they do because of the lack of pass
33:27
Speaker 2: rush and Fred Warner and Nick Bosa is still not
33:30
Speaker 2: being there. I think you're gonna see one of the
33:32
Speaker 2: bigger pass games from Smith and Jig and Darnold that
33:34
Speaker 2: we've seen in a month or so, and the Seahawks win.
33:37
Speaker 2: Call it seventeen ten, twenty one to ten. With the
33:40
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers just getting one touchdown in an NFC
33:43
Speaker 2: title game in eight days in Seattle.
33:45
Speaker 1: Hannan knows that we're pretty good stop in the run.
33:47
Speaker 1: That's he's aware of that. I think he's I slip
33:50
Speaker 1: him a note on that. All right, great great breakdown,
33:54
Speaker 1: What do you got, Bucky? What do you think is
33:55
Speaker 1: gonna happen Saturday?
33:56
Speaker 4: Well, I do think Shanahan understands where the stats are.
33:59
Speaker 4: I think he has PFF. I bet that's a subscription
34:02
Speaker 4: to it. Everybody uses it. Probably not gonna run real well,
34:04
Speaker 4: but they're gonna try, and they'll do better than they
34:07
Speaker 4: did just simply because they got their all star left
34:10
Speaker 4: tackle back. I also think that'll create a little bit
34:13
Speaker 4: of h security for Purdy back there and in the
34:18
Speaker 4: in the pocket. I think it still is gonna be
34:21
Speaker 4: a hard fought battle.
34:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't.
34:22
Speaker 4: I just feel like that's where division games go, and
34:25
Speaker 4: you get in the playoffs and it leans towards even
34:28
Speaker 4: more competitiveness. As beat up as they are, I have
34:31
Speaker 4: a hard time thinking the Niners win, but I do
34:35
Speaker 4: think they're gonna make a game of it. I'm gonna
34:36
Speaker 4: go nineteen seventeen Seahawks.
34:38
Speaker 1: Nineteen seventeen Seahawks. All right, Hugh, are we gonna fire
34:41
Speaker 1: this thing out? Yeah? To a whole two, Hugh? Where
34:45
Speaker 1: do we close it out?
34:45
Speaker 2: Here?
34:46
Speaker 3: All around table before the nine. I'm gonna go a
34:49
Speaker 3: lot of things on my notes here. I'm gonna go
34:51
Speaker 3: with last night watch the game again from a couple
34:55
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, and I don't know, I felt a
34:58
Speaker 3: little bit morbid and sid district because I'm watching the
35:02
Speaker 3: eight eight hits on brock Purdy. I filtered it, Okay,
35:05
Speaker 3: I want to I want to see those hits because
35:07
Speaker 3: I had the impression that that he got hit a lot.
35:10
Speaker 3: Three of them were sacks, and the last one at
35:14
Speaker 3: the very end of the game, on the fourth down,
35:17
Speaker 3: that had to be the I mean, that was like
35:21
Speaker 3: if you're into horror movies, that was that was uh,
35:25
Speaker 3: you know, popcorn worthy, because brock Purdy got freaking whipsawed
35:31
Speaker 3: by Leonard Williams on his front and by Derek calling
35:34
Speaker 3: the back. If you were at a movie theater in
35:36
Speaker 3: the popcorn line and you saw brock Purdy at six
35:39
Speaker 3: foot tall, you know, looking looking like a guy who's
35:41
Speaker 3: should be throwing a newspaper on your porch, and and
35:44
Speaker 3: you saw standing next to him in line Leonard Williams
35:47
Speaker 3: and Derek Hall, and then you just kind of imagined
35:49
Speaker 3: how they hammered that dude. And that's probably the hardest
35:54
Speaker 3: hit he took. And so it brings me to this,
35:58
Speaker 3: the difference in the pressures without Bosa. The forty nine
36:03
Speaker 3: Ers are thirty second in sacrate. This this is forty
36:06
Speaker 3: nine defense and twenty eighth in pressures. Seahawks are eleventh
36:09
Speaker 3: in sacarate. Good, they're second in pressures. But here here
36:15
Speaker 3: which is obviously great. The percentage of the time that
36:20
Speaker 3: the the Niners bring five rushers are more. They're twenty
36:23
Speaker 3: third in the league. Actually they're both at twenty one
36:26
Speaker 3: point seven. They're both twenty third and twenty fourth league.
36:28
Speaker 3: So they don't do it a lot. But I'm gonna
36:30
Speaker 3: read from the stat portal NFL quote percentage of plays
36:34
Speaker 3: with a five plus man rush that result in negative
36:38
Speaker 3: epa play for the offense end quote, forty nine ers
36:42
Speaker 3: are twenty eight Seattle number one in the NFL. Why
36:46
Speaker 3: when they they don't bring five guys often when they
36:49
Speaker 3: do it is havoc. In the last game it was
36:53
Speaker 3: eight plays. Now this is past plays, not run. These
36:56
Speaker 3: are past just thirty two yards four yard average. That
37:00
Speaker 3: would if you did four yards average, like you'd be
37:03
Speaker 3: not just dead last in the NFL, but dead last
37:05
Speaker 3: by a mile if you were that. So Seattle has
37:08
Speaker 3: that advantage going in. I think offensively it ought to
37:12
Speaker 3: allow Sam Darnold.
37:13
Speaker 2: To uh to uh.
37:16
Speaker 3: Hold the ball for a tick to get to his
37:17
Speaker 3: third or four fourth option instead of feeling the need
37:20
Speaker 3: to pressure and then just keep keep the pressure on
37:24
Speaker 3: on Purty, keep him in the pocket. He had the
37:27
Speaker 3: game winner outside the pocket to Tongus uh. And so
37:32
Speaker 3: if you deli allowed a break of content, break of contain,
37:36
Speaker 3: if you squeeze him from the inside, the defensive ends
37:39
Speaker 3: convert speed to power like they did in the last game.
37:43
Speaker 3: Hit brock Purdy. I think that Bucky's right, it's gonna
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Speaker 3: be more competitive, but I think Seattle uh that they
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Speaker 3: should do enough of what they did in the last
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Speaker 3: game to advance onto that championship game.
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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, gentlemen. We do appreciate it always. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: again tomorrow and of course the game on Saturday. Enjoy
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Speaker 1: enjoys and Greg, don't you enjoy it? You got work
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Speaker 1: to do, you can't enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Greg
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Speaker 1: Hugh joining us right here. The twelve man Roundtable comes
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Speaker 1: to a closed playoff edition. Coming up next, We're gonna
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