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Intuitive Design with Spiritual Solopreneur Podcast Host Bev Young · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:39
  SPEAKER_04: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bridges and Beacons podcast.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, and I am so, so excited today because on the other side of the virtual table for me is my friend Bev Young, who is also a podcaster.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna read her bio to you and then we're gonna get into it because I don't know about you.
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  SPEAKER_04: If you're a listening listener and you are a podcaster, like there is something really cool about hanging with a podcaster because we're in the vibes.
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  SPEAKER_04: We're we're already ready to get the juices flowing.
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  SPEAKER_04: So Bev Young is a soulful digital strategist and brand storyteller who empowers purpose-driven entrepreneurs to elevate their online presence with clarity and heart.
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  SPEAKER_04: Her work blends intuitive design with marketing strategies seamlessly to create digital platforms that don't just look good but feel aligned and create real impact.
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  SPEAKER_04: Dev, thank you so much for coming on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for having me, Kelly.
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  SPEAKER_00: That that what you just said there, that's a fancy way of saying web designer.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you know what?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like it's so much more than that.
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  SPEAKER_04: You're so much more than just a web designer because it's it's what informs you in your work.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, you're you're really cultivating a space for spiritual entrepreneurs to have support from someone who has a podcast that's all about entrepreneurs with that spiritual lens.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you and I have had a grand old time since we met sending each other people back and forth, like, oh my gosh, this is gonna be a great conversation for you.
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  SPEAKER_04: You gotta talk to this person.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think that is what I love about podcasting, at least in the podcasting that we do, there's zero competition.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I'm hyping you up everywhere I go because people will always say to me, All right, I used it's used to be the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, it's now Bridges and Beacons podcast, still spirituality, still, you know, science and and data kind of bringing that intuition and logic together.
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  SPEAKER_04: But people come on and they say, I want to go on a podcast like yours.
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  SPEAKER_04: I want to talk to somebody who has this comfort and ease with talking about all things spiritual.
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  SPEAKER_04: So I think it's really one of the cool, fun things that we get to do.
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  SPEAKER_04: Just like, you know, send each other these gifts of interviews that we get to have with people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it because I open up my email.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, here's another Prezi from Kelly.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's another person I can talk to.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is so awesome.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean, I don't do uh do you do only interviews?
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  SPEAKER_00: Mostly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Mostly interviews.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's a rare, rare time.
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  SPEAKER_04: I I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_04: Do you do you only do interviews or do you like to, yeah.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've only I haven't haven't, you know, expounded on my own yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just doing interviews, but I love doing interviews so much because these, as we were just saying earlier, these people are high vibe that we're talking to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and I am interested in raising the vibration of me, primarily, and because I'm a selfish person, and secondarily, the planet would also be nice to raise that vibration.
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  SPEAKER_00: But these these people do that, and just by being who they are, and it's quite amazing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you mentioned the that the logic mixed with the intuitive, which I love because this is what I do in my business too, in web design.
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  SPEAKER_00: I, you know, my clients have the magic, and I have the logic.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have the I have some intuition as well, and I use that in my process, which I think they relate to quite well.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, I like to say I I add the logic, I provide the logic without losing the magic, because there are certain sort of nuts and bolts that have to be in a website.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't care who you are.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: So you, you know, you need functionality, you need a platform, you need plugins, you need et cetera, et cetera.
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  SPEAKER_00: But with the spiritual entrepreneurs, what I find is they they go at this marketing thing a completely different way than maybe some other people.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't like to generalize, but if you say to Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Average business owner, what what are your goals for this year or this month?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll probably say something like, I want to increase my generate 20% more leads or increase my income by X amount.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the same question to a spiritual entrepreneur.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not that they don't want those things, those are the things they do.
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  SPEAKER_00: They just have a completely different perspective on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they'll say something like, I want to help a hundred people understand their soul's purpose so they can live their best life sustainably.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and so it's a just a different, it's a completely different perspective, but it's not they're not that far apart, really, when you when you really think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that that I love that about them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love working with them because of the vibe and just because they have that perspective, which I think is so cool.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I love that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you know what I didn't ask you about?
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  SPEAKER_04: What if you know off the top of your head, do you know your human design?
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  SPEAKER_04: Generator.
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  SPEAKER_04: Your generator.
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  SPEAKER_04: Do you know any more other than that?
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  SPEAKER_04: Like you're open and oh go for it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Open?
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  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know about open.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like in terms of your like open centers and defined centers, like you said, you I have authority, inner authority.
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  SPEAKER_00: Inner authority, sacral?
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  SPEAKER_00: Sacral, gotcha.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_00: I have is it profile or something?
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  SPEAKER_00: Three five.
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  SPEAKER_04: You're a three-five.
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  SPEAKER_04: Ooh, I love that that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have satisfaction and frustration as the the two things.
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  SPEAKER_00: I might have some I might have other information too, but that's what I got.
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  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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  unknown: What does it mean?
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_04: What does it mean?
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, well, just you know, if you just start from from type, as a generator, you you have sacral energy.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you have the energy to do, to work.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, you have that motor that kind of keeps you going.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, anybody who's a generator has energy consistently.
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  SPEAKER_04: Versus people who are not generators, manifestors, reflectors, projectors, they do not have sacral definitions.
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  SPEAKER_04: So their energy is inconsistent.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, and because we're generators, we need to burn our batteries every day.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, and it can't be just like we can't just burn our mental battery, we also have to burn our physical battery.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, if you've ever, if you're listening, listener, if you've ever found yourself lying in bed and you're like, I'm just not tired, it may be that you didn't burn your physical energy enough.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_04: We kind of need to move our bodies.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's so funny because I'm a manifesting generator, my husband's a generator, my son's a generator.
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  SPEAKER_04: And manifesting generators are a little bit different in our energy.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like we do need to burn it, but we kind of use it differently.
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  SPEAKER_04: Whereas like generators, if they get to the end of the day, like I used to go crazy because my husband and my son would be like wrestling before bed.
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  SPEAKER_04: And meanwhile, I'm like, I need to lower the lights.
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  SPEAKER_04: I need to like, you know, do like tea and and quiet time.
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  SPEAKER_04: And like I can't go from like like 60 miles an hour to zero.
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  SPEAKER_04: I have to like like strategically wind myself down.
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  SPEAKER_04: But if they get towards bedtime and they have any energy left to burn, they just burn it.
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  SPEAKER_04: And when I finally read that, I read that in one of one of my friends in the human design world, her name is April Quarter.
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  SPEAKER_04: She wrote a book all about that, like understanding children and their human design and how to parent the child that you have.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it was in that book that I read that and I was like, oh, that makes so much more sense.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_04: It's because we're we're different energy types, you know, they only burn their energy.
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  SPEAKER_04: So that's one part of being a generator.
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  SPEAKER_04: You have sacral authority, which means that you get your sense of like yeses and no as like a whole body, yes or no.
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  SPEAKER_04: And it might sound like physically moving your body or shaking your head, right?
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, and when you tune into that authority, you sort of know, you know whether something is for you or not.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, it might also be like if you, if you were to, you know, test your yeses and noes doing like a biofeedback, like standing and swaying, or you know, there's all different ways that you could do it, putting your arm up and pushing it down.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you would get the sense if you ask some like questions that you know are yes, like how your body says yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Does it lean forward?
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  SPEAKER_04: You know, do you say, mmm, you know, I feel like generators that or people that have that sacral authority are more likely to make happy sounds with their food.
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  SPEAKER_03: I hope.
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  SPEAKER_03: I hate food sounds.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like, like, no, like not sounds eating your food, but like, mmm, like that tastes good.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_04: Like, like do that, do that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: I do, yeah, I do resonate what you said about about sort of the go constantly producing, because I've been doing that since grade two.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I remember just constantly being asking for homework and things like that at school because I wanted to keep it going, keep it going.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got more juice to burn here.
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  SPEAKER_00: But as I get older, I you know, I don't I don't have this boost of energy like you at the end of the day, that's for sure.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm like you now.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you abuse it all up.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think the other thing about that is you want to be doing things that satisfaction and frustration, those I like to call those like your signs of alignment, whether you're feeling satisfied or frustrated.
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  SPEAKER_04: So when you're feeling frustrated, you're probably not doing enough that lights you up.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it sounds like for you, your work, your your podcast, the things that you're doing are lighting you up.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so you're not really like costing yourself any energy to do that.
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  SPEAKER_04: But when you have to force yourself to do things that you don't enjoy, or like people that work in industries that they're just miserable and they go every day, like that's when you start to actually get sick and it starts to affect your body.
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  SPEAKER_04: You go through burnout.
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  SPEAKER_04: And generators don't necessarily experience burnout where like they're like shut down and on the couch.
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  SPEAKER_04: They can, but a lot of times they have functional burnout, which means that you just keep going, but you're like a shell of yourself.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_04: So, and I didn't I didn't know that until like, you know, just within the past few years.
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  SPEAKER_04: And when I realized that, I was like, oh yeah, I get that.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_04: Like where you just like you just keep going, but you don't you don't feel good, but you can show up and you can do the work and do as much as you were doing before.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, I I I see that I've done that, and I often find if there's something I I don't want to do for whatever reason, it's like a wall comes up.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: But if I do it anyway, by the end of it, I'm really glad I did it.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's like something good for you, it's I think it's a false, a false barrier or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's something else there, I'm not sure.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, I'm horribly introverted as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if if it's something like where I have to have to, or I'm going to do speaking or something like that, uh I'm going to be apprehensive about it.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I may even think, you know what, it'd be easier just to not do that.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_04: Sure.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, yeah, that sounds that sounds like some some like fear, which could be purpose-driven fear, but it could also be whether or not your throat is defined.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so if your throat is not defined, then you have inconsistent energy for speaking.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_04: And interestingly enough, you were saying, you know, typically your episodes are you're speaking to someone, but that's like another feature of generators.
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  SPEAKER_04: Our our role is to respond.
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  SPEAKER_04: So it's so much easier for us to exist in conversations than to just go off the cuff.
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  SPEAKER_04: So depending on whether or not you have a defined throat, you may not have consistent energy to speak like that.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_04: But because you're a generator, you can respond to things.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like that's to me, that's like the easiest thing ever to have a conversation with someone.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_04: Responding just like goes very easily.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just going back and forth.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I totally get it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like what we're doing right now is very comfortable.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: So totally.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely awesome.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say the three, five is really cool because it means like when the the first number is lower, it means it's a you have a personal profile.
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  SPEAKER_04: So like you experience things yourself.
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  SPEAKER_04: So the three is all about experience and can have like the the side of like a lot of failure, but it's not failure because you did anything wrong, it's because you're designed to like try, break, try again, nope, try again.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yep, that worked.
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  SPEAKER_04: But because you're the five, that's like leadership vibes.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_04: So, like you, you figure out how something works, and then you can help someone else.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_04: It's what makes you really good at doing web design and helping people with their web design because you're like, I've tried this a million times.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_04: I don't, you don't have to try it.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_04: I can tell you how to do it.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love that exactly, exactly.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I love figuring out stuff that's broken, why is it broken and fixing it, which I find interesting because that's almost like an engineering kind of mindset for somebody that loves also loves design.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess there's two sides to just about everybody.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_04: Well, and I would wonder, yeah, I would wonder, we'll we'll have to like at the end of the show when we go offline, I'll I'll get all your details.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_04: We can look at your tart together.
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  SPEAKER_04: But I'm curious if maybe you have some definition in your head or your ajna, and then like your spleen is defined.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_04: So that's where like you're getting that intuitive piece.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_04: So you literally could be like one of those people who's got all the intuition, and then you've also got like the head piece, the logical piece.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_04: Makes sense.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I'm working with the, just as an example, I'm working with a client.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my process is a little different than other web designers.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people will give a client a bunch of wireframes or picture of squares and lines and triangles and stuff.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I I don't do that because it doesn't mean anything to them, I don't think.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I just don't work that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the way I do it is I have a conversation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Somehow by the end of the conversation, or maybe the next conversation, the vision for the entire look and feel of this website pops into my brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: So all I have to do is translate it into a live prototype.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I show the client, which is lots of fun because it's kind of like a brand reveal.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's a a big design reveal kind of thing.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: But but that's that's what happens.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's more of an intuitive hit that the thing just hits me than piece by piece, I guess.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, and maybe it's like a little, it's like a little bit of like you you've got some definitions somewhere in your head or Ajna in terms of like ideas, but like you said, like you just kind of play with it and you know you get to know the person, you get to know more information, and then the vision is there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So there's probably something up here, whether whether it's a a defined center or a gate or something that's working.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I would be surprised if you don't have definition or at least a lot of gates happening in your spleen, just given how much.
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  SPEAKER_04: But but you you you definitely remind me of somebody who has like a lot of logic and a lot of intuition, and they're like, they're kind of like playing with each other, you know?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that playing with each other.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: At least they're not fighting.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_04: And then it's the the curiosity I always have is like how if they're defined, how are they connected?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_04: Like what channels do you have defined?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: Because that will often, you know, speak to the flavor of what you what you do or what lights you up or what comes super easy to you.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: That's what I love about human design.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_04: It's not like telling people who they are, it's like figuring out where the easy engines are and how you've been designed energetically and figuring out like, am I gonna capitalize on this or that?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_04: Or oh yeah, that makes so much sense.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I I get that.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_04: Like I there is one of the gates that I talk about all the time is your unconscious Mars.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_04: And that is where your core wound to core talent sits.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_04: So like it's something that that probably in your childhood was an issue or something that you've you've suffered with or struggled with, but then as an adult, it becomes the thing that is your core talent.
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  SPEAKER_04: So mine is the 18, which is about judgment and criticism and it's like lower state.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: So, like for me, like feeling criticized, self-criticizing, being judgmental of others.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_04: Anytime I find myself like kind of like slipping into judgment of others, I'm like, there's that 18 again, Kel.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_04: She's showing up every time.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, but it's the gate of correction.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_04: So I am able to see the fine things, like if you just do this, like all the dominoes are gonna fall.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_04: If you just fix this.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_04: And the the way that I use it as a talent is I almost have to be invited to give that.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_04: I can't just offer it because it will come across as criticism instead of like, I'm gonna help you fix this.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a a matter of perspective, I guess.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: Matter of how you approach it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_04: Well, and that's where like you can you can be in like the the sunny side of the gate or the dark side of the gate, you know, and and I I don't even know where I learned at first, but hearing people talk about like just when you feel out of alignment, when it doesn't feel right in your body, you're probably just going more towards that shadow state of the gate.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Because it can be, it can be either or it can be, you know, the dark and the light.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_04: It's the all is possibility.
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  SPEAKER_04: We have full choice, but then it's like, does this feel in alignment for me?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_04: Is this am I, oh, okay, this is me.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm feeling uncomfortable, something is wrong.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I'm in judgment right now.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: That's why.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: I'm sitting in judgment.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'm seeing something that needs correction.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_04: And then sometimes it's like, well, do you need to, do you need to say it a different way, or do you need to put it away?
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_04: Like it's just you are going to always notice the thing that's out of place.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_04: It is just your, it's your core talent, slash wound, you know?
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_04: And so all of the discomfort.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh yeah, exactly.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, oh, that's what's happening here.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_04: But it's having that presence of mind and awareness to be like, there's nothing wrong right now.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_04: This is just, I am, if something is not working and like somebody sits down with me, like my favorite thing is when somebody comes to me with a problem at work and they're like, this is this is going on.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, okay, tell me everything.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_04: All right, do you do you want to do am I telling am I am I just receiving what you have to say, or do you want advice?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: Do you want help?
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: And and making sure that I'm not leaping to the conclusion.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_04: Before somebody is ready to go there with me.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: That's beautiful.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_04: I've made lots of mistakes.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_04: I I'm a one-three.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm I'm with you on the three like try it, try it, fail, fail, make mistakes.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_04: And for a long time I made that like that there was something wrong with me, that I could never quite get it right.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_04: Went down that road of perfectionism.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you've been there.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_04: But two times a day.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: And like I, of course, of course, I felt that tendency towards perfectionism because I'm like, I just want to get it right.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_04: But always making that mistake.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_04: And over and over again, I'm like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_04: That's just my design.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_04: And my one is all about research.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I need to know everything.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_04: I'm a deep diver.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_04: So if I have a topic that I'm interested in, I it's gonna be everything.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna read everything I can find about it.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_04: You know, somebody tells me about an idea, a book, I'm gonna read the book.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_04: Like, there's not even a question.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_04: And I used to be like, oh my gosh, like, do I have to do this?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_04: Like, feels too many, too many books, too many.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_04: And then, like, no, there's never enough for me.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_04: So the combination of the research and then the research hands-on experimentation, then I figure out the thing, and then I'm like, I can tell you exactly steps one through three.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_04: I've already done A through Z all over the place, made a big mess.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: Do it this way, you know, make it easy on yourself.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_04: So I I have, yeah, I have that thing.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_04: Makes me a good teacher.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: And and I do, I love the research thing too.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it's in there, but mine is, of course, usually online going down all kinds of rabbit holes, trying to figure things out, or and and I'm trying to figure out one thing, and of course I come across five things as I'm doing that, that this might be good for that client.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that might be good for that client.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so, and I'm trying to keep it all in my head, which is not a good idea at all.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: It just does not work out.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm trying to get get kind of get a little bit of a better handle on that because I can get carried away pretty easily.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I like to spend 60% of my time on marketing and 40% of my time doing doing the work.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not quite there yet.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I I don't I I don't want to be going down too many rabbit holes out of I'm curious too.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I'm but I want to know about that, you know, and and about three quarters of the time it's useful.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually useful, but some sometimes I think it goes a little overboard.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, gotta put the brakes on.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: I I gotta I need to know how when to put the brakes on so that I don't burn out.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I'm always telling my clients, put the brakes on so you don't burn out.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, I've tried it.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_04: I keep trying it.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_04: Haven't figured it out perfectly just yet, but I'm pretty sure this is the this is the way to avoid it.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_04: You gotta put those brakes on sometime.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, people I work with are are like yourself super empathic and intuitive.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: So they they are susceptible to burnout.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Probably more so than the average population because they're they're receiving energies of all sorts from their own clients.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, and and getting all kinds of intuitive hits, and it's easy to not put the oxygen mask on yourself before trying to help the person in the seat beside you on the airplane.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_04: I've heard that a few times this week, and I feel like is it customers talking to me?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_04: Little message.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: That that might be a message for me.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think I think that's absolutely true.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_04: And I definitely see it in, you know, my my daytime job, I'm an occupational therapist that works with kids.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_04: And it's very common, you know, for us to get burnt out because when you're in a service profession, like you already lean towards giving more to the other.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_04: And if you're someone who is giving in your job during the day and you have a family, and you know, maybe you have aging parents, and your your reflex is so frequently, sure I'll do it, yes, I'll do it.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_04: I can help you.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, that was that was me.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: I literally thought my personality was just very giving.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, learned, oh, actually that's people pleasing.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's that reflexive yes, because I have the energy, but you don't always have the energy.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what happens.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: Like you want to give.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_04: And for me, I have an emotional authority.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_04: So when you have emotional authority, you have a wave that goes up and down, you know, could be over like 24 hours, and you're gonna have the high highs, you're gonna have the low lows, and all of it is normal.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_04: And you're gonna have like that time when you hit the middle and you're stable.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_04: But I have to wait.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like you have sacral authority, so you know it's a yes or it's a no.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_04: My sister had sacral authority.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_04: Like, it's just it's so simple for her because you present something and she's like, absolutely not.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_04: That is not for me.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, if I'm in a hard mood, I might be like, sure, yeah, let's do that.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_04: Or if I'm in a low mood, it's like, absolutely not, nope.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_04: But I have to let it go through.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: I have to, I have to wait for it to come through.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_04: And when I finally learned that, I was like, when I feel that reflexive, yes, I'll do.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, let me think about that.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: I'll get back to you on that.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I literally practicing in the mirror, let me think about that.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_04: I'll get back to you on that.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_04: Awesome.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure yet.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_04: Let's let me feel through that a little bit.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I don't even say it's not thinking, it's feeling.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: I have to feel through it.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, no more, no more committing to like a Friday night dinner on a Monday afternoon or like a Tuesday morning when I'm fully energized.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_04: So now I'm like, I need to think about that because I know probably my energy will be low on a Friday afternoon, and that's not the best time for me.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_04: And I know I'm gonna commit, and then it's gonna be Friday afternoon, and I'm gonna say, I don't want to go.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to do it.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: Don't make me do it.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: I just love it.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: But if you go, if you go, you might be glad you did.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: I might sometimes.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: But it's also that piece of like you like using your energy when you have it, but then recognizing like when you're you're depleting it and choosing to do things that don't light you up or you don't really want to do, but you're doing out of obligation, like for the wrong reason, can be an issue.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it's it's not that easy to imagine when you're feeling really good on Tuesday morning, you can't really imagine correctly how you're going to feel at three o'clock or four o'clock in the afternoon on Friday.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: You do like uh I can't.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like it's cold outside right now.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's all I know.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: If if you're telling me you want me to pack for a trip to the Dominican, I'm gonna have a hard time getting those summer clothes in there because it it just I can't imagine that it's actually gonna be warm.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: I just I just can't, you know, I love I do it, of course, but and then with my luck, I'll get there and it'll be really cold at night and I won't have any sweaters.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't know, maybe it's my emotional authority that makes me overpack.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: Like, I I joke that, like, you know, I I took a trip with one of my coworkers in October to go speak at a conference in Portland, Oregon.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: And she was like, Oh yeah, I'm just I'm just gonna have a carry-on bag.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, that's not enough space.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_04: And she's like, How many pairs of shoes did you pack?
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, Well, I don't know how I'm gonna feel.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what, like, am I gonna be like, I want this pair of shoes and I want this outfit?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_04: And you know, I probably wore almost everything I brought.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_04: I really did.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_04: For you, good for you, and I was like, you know what?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not gonna make down a negative thing anymore.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like, they they let you check your bags, and sometimes I have to pay more.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_04: But I don't like the feeling of not having like what I feel like I need in the moment.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm like so.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I want options.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_04: Whereas like, it's like I just want to like know that it all fits in one bag and I'll figure out.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_04: But then she was like, I don't really like what I packed.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, see?
• 33:52
  unknown: Uh-huh.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I like everything I packed, first of all.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_04: Correct.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_04: Because I have to like imagine, like, okay, imagine this scenario.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_04: And like, what do I want to do?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_04: I also have an undefined identity or G center, which is like your sense of self and direction.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_04: And people who have a defined G-center, they're like very consistent, like where they're going in life and who they are, no matter where they go.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_04: But I'm literally, I dress for what the thing is.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, I can't just join an exercise class.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, okay, what is the vibe?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_04: Like, what are we wearing?
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_04: I like exactly is it stretch pants?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_04: Is it, you know, what what is the vibe?
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_04: I I have to dress for the vibe.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_04: Like, are we makeup?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_04: We're not makeup.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_04: And people be like, I'm just going to the gym.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, no, it's never just that for me.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_04: It's always I need to to be in like I'm like an immersion person.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna feel.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_04: I live in New Jersey.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_04: How am I gonna feel in Portland?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_04: You you just you just can't know.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a process.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_04: So are you an overpacker as well, then?
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: I am.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: What what usually happens for me every once in a while I'll wear everything that I pack, but most of the time I wear the same three things the whole time and don't wear any of the other stuff.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_04: That's great.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_04: But I love that.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_04: I I love that.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_04: It's just like funny little quirks that you think are funny little quirks that you find, and you're like, that's just part of who I am.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm looking at my I'm looking at my human design thing.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, cool.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Definition digestion, environment, perspective, motivation, guilt.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 35:54
  unknown: Probably.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_04: Does it show your your channels that you have activated?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'll send it to you.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, send it to me.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_04: I'll take a look.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_04: We don't have to do it now if you don't want to.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_04: But I I love uh I love looking at that.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_04: You like eating out on that, don't you?
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly, yes.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_04: I really, I really do because I think it's just part of part of me.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: Like I see people's designs in action in their bodies and the way that they act.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_04: I see all the details.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_04: My my design son is gate nine, which is the gate of details.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_04: So like juggling all those details, but then like I love making meaning of them.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_04: So like looking into the depth of somebody's chart and seeing all those pieces and being like, oh my gosh, this is so fun.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_04: Look at look at what you have here.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_04: You know, to me it's like it's it's like tasting all the flavors in a recipe and being like, oh my gosh, there's saffron.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_04: Who knew there was gonna be saffron in here?
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm like, I really like looking at all that, and you can find some cool themes.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_04: And the more people's charts that I dive into, the more I start to really like see patterns because that's one of my other skills is seeing patterns.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, very nice.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, it just occurs to me that you have not been on my podcast.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't a travesty that we're going to I know we'll remedy ASAP.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely, to be able to geek out more.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, uh anytime, anytime, anywhere.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it'll be here on on the digital portal since we're not close.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_04: But if I'm ever in your neck of the woods for sure, I'm looking you up and we're gonna get coffee together.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: We are beautiful British Columbia.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I've never been.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_04: I really do want to go.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_04: I have too many places I want to go to and not enough free time, so I have to remedy that for myself.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's kind of part of my my like goal with life to figure out how do I remedy having more time to travel because I'm really lit up by travel.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't love travel.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: Which is which is an odd thing to say, I think, because most people like it.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: I like I should qualify it.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: I am not big on like the big trip to Europe for a month type thing.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I can't do that because as exciting as it sounds, and I'm sure it would be, it's too long.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm too much of a homebody, it's too long to be away.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_00: When I come back, I'm gonna forget all my passwords, and I'm never gonna be, I won't be able to work for two weeks because I'm not gonna know where anything is.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, it'll drive me crazy.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_04: That is that is like the best reason for struggling with travel.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna come back to forget all my passwords.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, Bev.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_04: I relate so deeply to that, the amount of times that I have to reset passwords.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I can't come up with any more ideas.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not that creative.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I I don't know.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_04: It it's it's one, it's definitely one of my stress points.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: Or like if you if you open something on a different device and then it's like, oh, you need to remember it.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_00: I I need to log in.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_03: No, tell me, don't log me out.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_04: Please don't log me out.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_04: My computer remembers it.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_04: Why can't you just trust me?
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_04: It's me.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_04: It's it's it's definitely me.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, that's so funny.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_04: I relate to that too.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_04: I think I like to travel.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_04: One of my favorite things about travel now is that you can do an Airbnb because I I like to have a routine and a home base.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_04: So, like when my my coworker and I went out to Portland, we got like, oh my gosh, it was the cutest Airbnb.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_04: It was like very modern and super cool.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_04: We picked like a fun neighborhood to be in.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_04: And then I was like, oh, we're gonna like feel the flavor of like being in this neighborhood.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_04: But then I feel like I have my bedroom.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_04: I always love to unpack and set up a space for myself and like get all my you know, toiletry set up so I'm ready for all my routines.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_04: And I am a routine girly, like I do love to set that, but but I'm pretty good about like pack it all up and create the routine and run with it.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_04: But I I feel like you do too.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: Like I I like to be home also and and in my element in my routine.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_04: And although I would say I'm fairly extroverted most of the time, I definitely need my alone time to myself.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_04: And I didn't really honor that for myself for a long time.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_04: But now that I've been pretty consistent, I feel that like draw to just like take some time for myself away from other people.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_04: And I think I think it does have a lot to do with other people's energies as well.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_04: Because I'm so hyper aware of everybody else.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: For sure.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: And and it's we we have to process.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I do.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: I have to process something happens.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_00: I can't give you an answer right away.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: I can't right away.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you how I feel about it right away because I have to process it.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I don't know.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know where that came from.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I love that.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_04: I was a non-sequitur.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_04: No, but it's good because uh no, it really does sound like you probably have some definition somewhere in your head, in your head or in your ajna that oh definition it says triple split definition.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_04: You're a triple split.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_04: I knew you were a split definition.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_04: Does it say I knew it?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_04: Does it say which centers are defined?
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um no.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_04: Are you looking at the picture of the the body graph chart?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: I have that, yes.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so if you look at the ones that are colored in, those are the ones that are defined.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_04: They have color to them.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_04: And the white ones are not.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Almost all of them are colored.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Almost all which ones are not colored?
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: The two on the my right side?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: And the very top one.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_04: Very top one.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, so you have an open head.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_04: And then the two on the right side.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_04: The two triangles?
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, two triangles.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_04: That makes sense.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_04: You do have a defined intuition.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_04: So you have the big square on the bottom is defined.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_04: That's your root.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_04: So you have a defined root, you have an undefined head, you have a defined G center, the the diamond in the middle.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_04: You have an undefined will center, which is the tiny triangle.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_04: So that one's white.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_04: And then there's like a bigger triangle next to that's your emotional solar plexus.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_04: That makes sense.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_04: Because if you had definition your emotional solar plexus, you'd have emotional authority.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_04: And then the triangle on the other side is defined.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I just lost you.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_04: Oh no, find me.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_04: I I still see you.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_04: You're still there.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, good, good.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I can I guess I can talk to you without without seeing you.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: You'll find me.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_00: What happened there?
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what happened.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm hiding.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: I no, I was now my computer's frozen.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, you well, your face is still looking beautiful and bright and and present.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, good.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_04: Well, let's draw a card.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's draw a card then.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_04: So we were talking about some of the decks before.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_04: Did any one of them like call out to you?
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: I I love the curious creatures.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_04: That's my my my latest.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_04: So for for the listener, this is the tower of curious creatures, which is by Chris Ann, who also did the light sears tarot, which is my had been my my favorite tarot.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_04: But this one is new to me.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: So I haven't I haven't even really shuffled it all that much, to be honest.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_04: So let's see.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_04: Are we pulling how many cards are we pulling, Beth?
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_04: Three.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_04: Three.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, this is so exciting for me.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_04: They're like even still super stiff.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't even broken them in.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_04: And they're they're so gorgeous.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_04: The I mean the creatures are so gorgeous, but the cards themselves are gorgeous.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_04: I'll just show you in case you're watching on video.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_04: But they're like purple and red.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_04: They have like a peacock feather.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_04: All right, three cards.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, here we go.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_04: We've got the ace of pentacles.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_04: And it looks like a little bear clock.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_04: Bear in a beak.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_04: Ace of pentacles.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_04: We've got the sun.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_04: Please.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_04: Dev and I'm like please.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_04: All right, so seeds, sun.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_04: We like this.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_04: And the two of pentacles.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_04: Super cute.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_04: So the for the listener, the ace of pentacles is a bear, and he's got like a gold coin with a star.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_04: And then the sun is a lizard in a very cute red and white polka dot bathing suit with cute little high heels.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_04: And she's holding a sunflower above her head.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_04: And then the Two of Pentacles looks to be a duck or a goose standing on an egg with two of those gold coins with a star on it.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: So let's say balancing the coins while while on a sort of moving what balancing while okay.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what's interesting, like right away, we've got a lot of like hand action.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_04: We've got the bear with the hands on the on the pentacle.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_04: We've got the lizard holding the sun up in the air.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_04: And then we've got the goose or the duck holding the coins in either hand.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_04: So balance, but like lots of hands and arms.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_04: All right, let's see what these want to tell us.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_04: All right, we'll go first to the ace of pentacles.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_04: Manifesting power, new beginnings, prosperity, seeds of potential, magnificent success, new ventures or creations, provisions, gifts, a chance to begin anew.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the pathway of earthly abundance.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_04: This ace serves as an entry point to a new journey of security and prosperity.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_04: And your first step is to connect with Mother Earth.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yes, let's do that.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to hear your relationship with your health, your financial wealth, and how you tap into the energies of pleasure and contentment.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_04: The Bear Guide grants safe and joyful passage as you root down into the deep vibration of Mama Gaia.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_04: You are of the earth, and Mother Earth asks you to plant new ideas and plans into her bedrock and to reverently give thanks to the bounties she will in return bestow.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_04: Your relationship with this energy is paramount to your success.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: When your new opportunity looms in front of your eyes, you'll need to call in your optimism, your gratitude, and your diligence.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_04: Know that its successful fruition is your destination, and that all the materials and resources you'll need to build your dream, your earthly environment, will come in sight as you create.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_04: Your harvest will be the incredible reward for the progress made.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_04: So find peace and presence as you begin this new journey.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to enjoy the material realm and embody Earth's magic.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_04: The fire horse is coming in.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_04: There was an eclipse yesterday, wasn't it?
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_04: An eclipse yesterday, like a whole shwammy.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_04: There was a lot of stuff going on.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: I think that that also speaks to what we were talking about with the people that we talked to on our podcasts, uh being the catalyst of the higher vibration.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's starting.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_04: Which I always love to get the sun card.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_04: Mommy's like, yes, more sunshine, please.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_04: It can't go wrong.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_04: It's health, positivity, success, inspiration, joy, feeling, carefree, beauty, nature, life force, vitality.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_04: The sun ushers in good vibes and positive outcomes.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_04: Are you feeling them yet?
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_04: This is a massively positive sign and a giant yes to successful outcomes and hearts brooming with joy.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to radiate freedom, optimism, and fun and to embrace the full expression of self.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_04: Accept yourself enthusiastically and stride toward that piece of peace that you've been looking for.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_04: If you feel any resistance to this card, it's definitely time to ask yourself why you've been blocking your own happiness.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_04: Which part of your life needs a little more sunlight?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_04: Has a less than optimistic mindset been clouding your attention and your focus?
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_04: What's holding you back?
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_04: Lie back and bask in the sun's rays of growth while its vitality reaches your core.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_04: Warm your spirit and its bright blessings because success and laughter are waiting for you when you do.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: Ah.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: How lovely.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_00: There's no downside to the sun.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, other than if you want to say, you know, don't fly too close to it.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: But other than that, basically, there's really no negative interpretation that you can make of the sun.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's just one of those cards.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_04: So this is cool.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_04: So we've got the Ace of Pentacles followed by the Sun, followed by the Two of Pentacles.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_04: So the Sun kind of like sinking herself in the middle of these two.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_04: Two of Pentacles, juggling options, choices, duality, balancing time and energy, feeling pulled between the material and the spiritual planes, pivoting, adapting, equilibrium obligations.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_04: To say you've got choices is an understatement.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_04: Lately you've been juggling your options and your responsibilities like a pro, or hmm, maybe it only looks like that on the outside.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_04: Trying to pivot all day long to find your footing feels a whole lot less stable on the inside.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_04: And there's a good chance you've been doing too many things.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_04: Saying yes to all the obligations, trying to do it all, modern day life often asks far too much of us.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_04: And it can strain your relationship with your own sense of peace, not to mention your relationship with those around you.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_04: Things are wobbly.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_04: So under schedule your life next week and focus on one thing at a time.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_04: What can you let go of?
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_04: Which responsibilities are crucial and which can fall away?
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to find your center and get your ducks in a row.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_04: It's time to consciously create your harmony.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_04: Perfect balance means that which is that which is perfectly fulfilling, healthy, energizing, and rewarding for you.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, I love that.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_04: That's that's nice.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm feeling it.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_04: It's good advice, man.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_04: It's such good advice.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it really does kind of speak to what we were talking about.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_04: Where like you can't you can't say yes to everything.
• 52:52
  unknown: Yeah.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, you can and you will burn down.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_04: And that's what it's it's talking about.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_04: Having that fine balance and having harmony.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_04: So I feel like the message that's coming through is it's the beginning of the year, we're planting our seeds.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_04: We're remembering to bask in the sun that we're using to, you know, make sure those seeds grow and are ready to harvest.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_04: And at the same time, like make sure we're balanced, we're we're not overdoing it.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_04: You can't put your eggs in every basket because there's an egg there, right?
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_04: So we have to talk about the eggs, but you can't put your eggs in every basket, and that it's also important while you're you're going into these new beginnings and this prosperity and all these opportunities, and the sun is here for you.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_04: You have to be conscious about it and realize that life is not all work, it is also having balance and making sure that we're we're giving where we're supposed to be giving.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_04: And we're we're also having that time for ourselves to retreat, that time with other people.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_04: I kind of love that the sun has a little, she's wearing her her lizard bathing suit.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, we're just talking about taking some trips, and you had mentioned Costa Rica, so I feel like Spirit is like, yeah, man, get get some sunshine.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_04: And we've got three pentacles all together.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_04: One, two, three, and three is a magic number, and three cards.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway, sounds fantastic.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: I love that interpretation.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's fantastic.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I I love to read the books because I feel like it it kind of there's usually a word or two that pops out that I'm like, whoop, yep, yep, that's the one.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_04: That makes sense.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_00: That is the message.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: That is that was the right card.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_04: That was it's always the right card.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_04: And I love that there's there's such cute little designs on these.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, the one with the pentacles, there's some some flowers and a little teeny tiny bee.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_04: The one with the sun, her her sunflower sun.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_04: There's a really pretty pink feather that's found its way into the petals.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_04: And this little um, this card, there are one, two, three, four little floating feathers in there.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you can see those, but I can.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_04: I can four little floating feathers.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_04: I've never noticed that.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_04: So there's there's some cute little fun finds on these cards.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_04: And and the I think he, I don't know.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_04: Is he a is he a duck or a goose?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_04: What do we think?
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_04: Or is he a different?
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: I would say duck, but I can't.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_04: Usually they say it says I don't want to insult this gentleman.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_04: No, that would be so rude.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_04: He's a mallard.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_04: Duck.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_04: So he's he's wearing the cutest little like rusty orange tie and a and a sporty vest with stripes and pants and sensible loafers.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he he's juggling, but he's doing okay.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's doing it okay.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_04: He's doing okay, and he doesn't look very stressed.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_04: Like he's doing the balancing act, but he's not stressed by it.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_04: This is this is so fun.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_04: And maybe the ace of pentacles is a bear, and there's a bee, and and the bear is like, I know if I stick close to this bee and these flowers, and I put this pentacle down into the soil, eventually there's more flowers, and where there's a bee and where there's flowers, what does the bear want?
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_04: Honey.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_04: He's like, There's gonna be honey here.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, down the road.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_04: This is like totally this deck is right up my alley because it's super cute and fun.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, it's very cute.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_04: So, listener, you you've got a lot of fun advice as you're starting your February 2026.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_04: Bev, anything else you want to tell us about?
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_04: What do you what do you think is coming up in 2026?
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_04: What are some good, let's let's lean into your skills as a web designer and digital marketer.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_04: What are some things, maybe two to three, that a spiritual entrepreneur can be doing right now to capitalize on the the energies and this amazing set of cards that we got today?
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_00: A spiritual entrepreneur.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_00: Well, one thing that I think I see coming more and more is community.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: And my thought is get into the community.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a spiritual entrepreneur, if you're just starting or you want to do some promotion or whatever it is, get into the community.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we you and I are in a couple of them.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_00: There's lots of them.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_00: Get with the like-minded people and join in the vibration.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's that's paramount.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: I also think that AI is coming hard and fast.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it's it's going to, you know, it's going to help.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's I think it's going to help spiritual entrepreneurs, all entrepreneurs really kind of you know, get their get businesses off the ground.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to help web designers for sure, because there's all kinds of automated things happening.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_00: There's AEO, which is the sort of an off-duit of SEO.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_00: So we can start doing things like getting your website mentioned in Google AI summaries and chat GPT and things like that.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_00: And all these tools that are coming that we can all use.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: And the spiritual entrepreneurs, I know a lot of them are quite savvy.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: They actually are geeky a little bit on tools sometimes because they have they've tried it themselves.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're starting out as a solopreneur, you're not jumping into a big expensive program or hiring a whole team.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: So they kind of tend to start out on their own and kind of get their feet wet on these things and then they start liking it.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: So there's going to be lots of opportunities there.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: But of course, if if if you'd rather not do it yourself, which I recommend hiring someone to do it for you or to work with you.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's so nice to have just somebody to bounce ideas off, even.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um and to do the legwork, do the heavy lifting for you.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're you're as a spiritual entrepreneur.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_00: Your job is to is to get that that energy out there and the vibration, and and we'll do the logic and you do the magic.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_04: I love that.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you are logical and magical, Dev.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_04: And I am so thrilled that you came to speak with me today because I've loved having this conversation.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_04: I've loved taking it in different directions.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_04: And I appreciate your willingness to let me dissect your human design a little bit.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_04: It really does.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_04: That for sure lights me up.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_04: That is definitely one of my one of my geek outs.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_04: And I really encourage everyone to check out her podcast, The Spiritual Solopreneur.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_04: And also, we'll put all of Bev's information in the show notes if you're interested in looking for someone to work with in terms of you know doing your web design.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_04: And if you're a spiritual entrepreneur and you you know this is not your strong suit, and you would love to have someone to support you through it, check out Bev.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_04: And if you feel like you would be an exceptional guest on Bev's podcast, or you want to have like the full experience and you've never been on mine, then pitch to us.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_04: We would love to interview, have you come on the podcast?
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_04: And I mean, I feel like everybody has some great perspective on what to expect in 2026.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_04: I I love your two suggestions, and literally they would have been the two things that I would have thought.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_04: So I think that's that's so cool.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_04: I was totally in line with that.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_04: Community is coming up more and more for sure, and I think people really are driven right now to feel connected to something real and true, those healing vibrations, the right people, like-minded people.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_04: And they are out there.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_04: They are on LinkedIn.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_04: If you're not on LinkedIn, you can find Bev and I there.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_04: And I think they're in our communities too.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm finding more and more people are like, wait, you do what outside of like your day job?
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_04: They're like, wait, will you read my human design?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_04: Can you bring your tarot cards?
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I probably can't bring them to work.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_04: It would probably be like way too distracting for me.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_04: I don't have much discipline when it comes to how much fun I have with it.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_04: But I think finding people in your direct community as well is really important right now and supporting our communities as best we can.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_04: And AI, yeah, I think AI is really such a fascinating area.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_04: I think we're really just starting to get ourselves to understand its potential and capacity.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_04: And, you know, I think we're we're sort of moving past like AI, good or bad, and more into like AI useful, resourceful, or not, right?
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_04: And there are definitely ways to use it that are more helpful, more aligned.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_04: I think automation is going to be a big piece of things.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_04: I think about how much we've had to work on.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know, talk about being generators, like building a website from scratch.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_04: As I go into my, I've I've already I'm going into my fourth, but this one I'm it's it's a landing page.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_04: It's already pretty much designed for me because I, you know, I want to be able to have a place to send people if they want their human design charts, but they don't have to talk with me.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_04: So I'm doing that.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_04: I haven't launched that yet, but I may be like, oh Bab, I want you to give me some pointers for my for my landing page.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, keep me updated about your event brite.
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  SPEAKER_04: And if you have that information, uh, we'll stick it in the show notes.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_04: And if you get it soon, we'll edit the show notes and put it in there.
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  SPEAKER_04: So if you're catching this after the fact, you can participate in Beb's really cool event brite and get some feedback on your existing website and make some little tweaks here and there to have it just pulling in the right people for you.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: Exact them all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just been absolutely lovely.
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  unknown: Good.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_04: I know we're both we were both talking about how like selfishly we enjoy the podcast because it's so life-giving and energy giving by the end.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_04: Like we just feel like our cups are so full and overflowing.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_04: So we just got to fill each other's cups, which is awesome, which is great.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll do again.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_04: I'll come on your podcast and we can uh have a very fun conversation.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_04: All right.
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  SPEAKER_04: Bye for now.