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Fraud Friday: Return of the Deacon, Jacquis Neal · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation?
• 0:02
  Speaker 2: Is your girl?
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
• 0:05
  Speaker 3: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 3: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 3: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 3: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 3: and as always, stay scheming.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Scam, Come Robb and froll Scam, Come.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Rubb and froll Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 4: We are the champions my freeze. We keep all scaming
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  Speaker 4: to the aid.
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  Speaker 1: Wee the scam. We all don't buy bus, no time
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: for polease sweet oh, don't scared? Yeah, you get where
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: we're going with this. Hey, y'all, what's up? What's popic Coggregation?
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: If you know?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: We won the iHeartRadio Award for Best Crime, which is
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Thank you guys so much for listening and
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: telling your friends about robbery and also letting your kids
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: stream it after paw patrol in the other room. We
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: all did our part. Absolutely should not be in this category.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Y'all know. We are in comedy podcast that is also
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: doing true crime, but you know we legit like hay
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: let be researching, we having you know oracles, we have
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  Speaker 1: you know footnotes, Okay, we'll be annotating, we'd be having
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: a bibliography, So maybe we have become legitimate. I'm so
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  Speaker 1: sorry for that, but I just want to say thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys, thank you all for listening and for coming back.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously we recorded a lot during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: It's still the Panderoni pandas not even a word anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even come up with fake ords for the
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: pandemic anymore, as dad. Anyway, guys, that was a long intro.
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  Speaker 1: This is Scam Goddess Podcast. If you don't know, if
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: you're new to the show, my name is Lacy Mostly
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  Speaker 1: aka Scam Goddess, and this is the show all about
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  Speaker 1: true crime, Robert Reed, fraud and those who committed and
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: practice it. We love them, we stand most of the time. Guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very yes, you know, I'm just gonna keep it,
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  Speaker 1: keep it to what we always do. I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: I am truly Uh this is a repeat guest. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know if it's the third time or the second time.
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  Speaker 1: I think second, he thinks the third. Ain't nobody finished introducing.
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  Speaker 2: You Hello, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: This is just absolutely ridiculous. Guy, you see what I
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  Speaker 1: have to do. But guys, this is a good friend
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  Speaker 1: of mine. I've known for many years. He's super talented.
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  Speaker 1: He's an actor, comedian, he's a podcaster himself. He is
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  Speaker 1: a voice actor, which I told you have to be
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  Speaker 1: in the Illuminati to so, oh I shouldn't. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: the people. Okay, I take it back. He's not in
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  Speaker 1: the Illuminati and he's a friend of the show. Guys. Please, oh,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what, let me let me just drop
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  Speaker 1: some credits on y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just do that till you've seen them on shows
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  Speaker 1: like Lasan Demand and ABC's Blessed This Mess. He hosts
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  Speaker 1: produced his own podcast with iHeartRadio headcum ear Wolf, and
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  Speaker 1: some of those podcasts include Culture Kings, which was nominated
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  Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one and the Award for Best Comedy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you can check him out on the upcoming season of
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  Speaker 1: Physical on Apple TV. Okay, Okay, Physical on Apple TV
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  Speaker 1: Getting Apple Coin Congregation, Please welcome Jaquis Neil to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I can talk now, y'all, I can talk now.
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  Speaker 2: The Congregation, The deacon is back. I'm calling myself a deacon.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else calling me that, But
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  Speaker 2: I don't want you to be a deacon, since I
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  Speaker 2: saw my granddaddy doing this. So this is my chance,
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  Speaker 2: since I don't go to church.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, get your white gloves out, O, get
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  Speaker 1: my white gloves past. Let you count the money. You
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  Speaker 1: can wear the gloves on, and you can pass the basket.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot pick the basket up. I can pass it
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  Speaker 1: to the first person. Yes, they're down the pew, and
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  Speaker 1: then I'll be at the end of the pew. I
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  Speaker 1: do all of the receiving of baskets. Okay, okay, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, but both of us go steal the money though,
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  Speaker 2: So like here, I'm not steal the money is for you,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, the money is yours. It's your church.
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  Speaker 1: For me. It's more the community, like we gotta building
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  Speaker 1: fund things, gotta.
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  Speaker 2: Get lazy, lazy, we got nothing, and you know damn
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  Speaker 2: well that tied and offering money is going to the pasta.
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  Speaker 1: No, not in my not in my church.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, your church, your church scamming you.
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  Speaker 1: Then who's gonna who's gonna buy these little baskets? To
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  Speaker 1: put the money in the Amazon square charges of percentage
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  Speaker 1: because we do take cards. You know, there's there's places
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  Speaker 1: this money is going all.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. The tides go to the church
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  Speaker 2: and the offerings go to the pastor.
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  Speaker 1: Now, don't act like there wasn't a love offering. A
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  Speaker 1: love offering was going to the pastor, and that what
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  Speaker 1: made him lie about. They would be like, and now
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  Speaker 1: we have a love offer for pastor's anniversary. I never
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  Speaker 1: understood why we had to celebrate pastors relationship anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: We did. We did, and let me tell you something,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's.
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  Speaker 1: Very almost like what's the word. It feels like a
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  Speaker 1: little cheap of the men pastors to be like, okay, baby,
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  Speaker 1: you know what time it's time for our anniversary?
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  Speaker 2: Like take me.
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  Speaker 1: They can't cool. Let me, you know, get a baptismal
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  Speaker 1: in the freaking Pacific or in the Atlantic, Like don't
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  Speaker 1: what's the church doing our anniversary?
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  Speaker 2: Because the pastors ain't got no money, you know, although
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  Speaker 2: they flying the jets and driving the business and they're
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  Speaker 2: doing the service. They doing the service. I know that,
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  Speaker 2: but you know they need the congregation to pay for them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, where you trying to go, Lacy, where
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to go.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to church, and cause I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of places. But if it is an anniversary,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what we're celebrating, then why does have to
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  Speaker 1: be a cash gift? Can I bring some chocolate covered strawberries?
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  Speaker 2: I can't spend chocolate covered strawberries though they melt. One
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  Speaker 2: person can give some chocolate strawberries. But you know, you
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  Speaker 2: know how you go down a gift listen that says
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  Speaker 2: like only one can give this, but then there's cash
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  Speaker 2: registry of that, it's a registry. And my church is
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  Speaker 2: registry because we you know, we monor, you know, we millennials,
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  Speaker 2: and we got gen z ers up in here. We
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  Speaker 2: ain't just paying with cash. We got cash.
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  Speaker 1: App See, I'm telling about things that actually happen to church.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about the church that you're actually trying to
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  Speaker 1: make up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to make a church.
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  Speaker 1: Registry on a pastor's anniversary. I just want to know
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  Speaker 1: if I can give a gift instead of cash, Can
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  Speaker 1: I give them PARTI bes whipped shots.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you can do that. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you can do that. I think it's all cash. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's all cash. Like I said, i'ven't been to
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  Speaker 2: church in a minute, but there's a lot of New
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  Speaker 2: Age churches.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's some churches that's taking crypto and ship.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I could tie in ethereum, like we gotta fight,
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  Speaker 1: like get up, get up, get out of the pool
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  Speaker 1: pit right now, because it's time to toss these holy hands,
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: like are you kidding me? But Jikizu, we always ask
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  Speaker 1: what is your relationship with scams? Have you ever been scammed?
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  Speaker 1: You loven't your hand? You've been on the show before,
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  Speaker 1: but it's anything new happened or you know what, it
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  Speaker 1: could be anything.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Can I tell you what I think?
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: It's a scam? Yes, and we'll get in trouble for this,
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: but I think liberalism and progressiveness it's a damn scam.
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  Speaker 2: It's a scam. It's a scam. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: why it's a scam. Let me tell you why it's
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  Speaker 2: a scam. Because we be fighting for shit and like listen,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be agreeing with the stuff too. But when people
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  Speaker 2: don't be realizing when you talk about man, we want
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  Speaker 2: more people to pay their fair share of taxes and
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: all that shit. That's cool for the billionaires and the millionaires,
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  Speaker 2: leave us thousand aaires alone. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: You know shit, because what the motherfucker's don't tell you
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  Speaker 2: is once you get out of the five digit bracket
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  Speaker 2: and you get into that six is bracket taxes, I'm
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  Speaker 2: about to had my feelings hurt this tax season. We
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  Speaker 2: got so many rules and it's all a scam.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you know, we did leg twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: on this show because it was a shot in the
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  Speaker 1: heart with Donald Trump and it was a shot on
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  Speaker 1: the leg with Joe Biden. There wasn't really a win.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I say it's a scam is because
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  Speaker 2: to a degree, I under I do believe. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: personal responsibility is a thing, but like we have turned
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  Speaker 2: personal responsibility into like a weapon against each other. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: in a way that is very fucking weird. It's very
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  Speaker 2: weird when this shit ain't my fault. Nothing is my fault.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, nothing is our Like
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  Speaker 2: we have we elected people to be put in place
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  Speaker 2: to do the jobs for us, and yes, we have
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  Speaker 2: to do things for our fellow man. But the way
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: we weaponize like all types of shit on both sides,
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  Speaker 2: it is so goddamnnnoy And it's a scam because at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it really truly feels like,
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  Speaker 2: don't shit change. So I don't know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Areting to like really understand my parents, who like I
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: be all fired up about these elections. They'd be like, baby,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's it's all gonna be the same. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: but we are making progress very you know, and much
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  Speaker 1: faster than they used to, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like Black Lives Matter. You know, we was in the streets.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have to get hosed or six by dogs,
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  Speaker 1: So that's a step up. We're still marching, but now
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  Speaker 1: we're marching in athletic shoes that get us further for
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  Speaker 1: the long miles.
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  Speaker 2: We're not We're not We're not marching in church shoes
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  Speaker 2: no more.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get on grew our parents. That's why our
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: parents so damn tired. They hurt, motherfucker. They had no
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: damn yeezies or some some air maxes with the cloud
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: foam on their feet. They had wood on the marshal
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: Wood they for laughing at.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Them, and they really were. It was probably like all
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: types of splinters in them Johnts when.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: They got home and them thoughts was on fire. Man,
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: go look, you know, everybody, all the black people that
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: listen to this show. Next time you meet your grandparents,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: go look at their feet. I bet you them off right.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: It's not lucky enough to have them.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: If you're lucky enough to have your grandparents or your parents,
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: go look at them feet, because they tie it.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: Truly exhausted, clocked out. The last thing I want to
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: say about that was like, you made a good point,
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: you keys about like I feel like America has pitted ourselves,
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: Like you know, our government, so many people are pitting
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: everyone who should be fighting together against one another. And
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: this is no new information, but it always makes me think, Like,
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: you know, when people get upset about redistribution of wealth
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: or welfare or any social programs that help level the
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: playing field for people who were born with less fortunate
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: situations than others, you know, people want to get mad
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: about that and be like you just need to work
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: harder and all this bs Elan earned his money and
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: all this other crap but like nobody gets that mad
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: about infrastructure, Like our tax dollars go to building roads
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and I never see people like, well, I
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: paid more taxes than you, so you shouldn't even be
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: out here on mail rows.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Like fucking crazy.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: You know you were paying for the roads too, and
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: the traffic lights. Do you want people who don't make
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: as much money as you not to use traffic lights?
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: You stop looking up there.
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  Speaker 2: And the way the system is and the way the
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: system is set up. Everybody in the middle fucking pays
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: way more than people at the top.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, every time I drive over a pothole, I just
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: be like screaming at jeff Bezos because it's truly not fair,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: like they're coming for all my ends and more. And
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: then Jeffrey up there just living good with his old
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  Speaker 1: q bott as he dresses like a mannequin on South Beach,
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  Speaker 1: like just walking past random stores.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and not even at the good stores, at
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: the discount stores too, at the discount stores on South
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Be a billionaire just out here killing everybody and stealing
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: all the resources. At least has some drip like you,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: at least got you tripped down every time you walk
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  Speaker 1: into the I mean I almost want you to carry
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  Speaker 1: a cane like I need you to be like I
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  Speaker 1: need you to dress like a villain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will let me get a billion
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: dollars I'm wearing. I'm having a different cane every day,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: different alligated shoes. You want a monocle?
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want just ridiculous opulence, like and it needs
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: to be diamonding crusted, like Dj Callis showed off like
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  Speaker 1: a three million dollar watch that was like all these
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: emerald shaped, ugly ass diamonds the other day on Twitter
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: and everyone was like, this ship is so ugly. This
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  Speaker 1: is what you're doing with.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Your money, Like, yeah, that's what you're doing is money.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: That shit is dope. Probably I want a Ric Flair robe.
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  Speaker 2: I want want I want a motherfucking Rick Flair robe.
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  Speaker 2: And I want somebody following me with interest music as
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: I'm walking down the street. It's my greatest like the
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  Speaker 2: keys money for things?
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Did see that?
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Lazy? I just bought myself a WWF championship belt. Scoff, God, honor.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our first segment here, what's hot and fraud?
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get it. Just completely glazed over that this
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  Speaker 1: is where we've warn our listeners about fraud that's popping
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: in the streets, and more often than not, we get
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: a letter from you guys as always snitch on your
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: friends and family and scam got his pot at gmail
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Just make sure your scam is retired so
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: we don't what yes, fuck up your bag? Ay man,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: I need a fake name for this person. Normally I
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: will just say any gender, any whatever, but they have
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: the scam is like very very old and they have
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: said that they're SI gendered. Man, So yeah, you can
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: give me.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: So we need a name. We need a name, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Victor Victor. You mean last name of
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: this first name.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Johnson, Victim.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Victor Johnson, Victor Johnson.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: So Victor Johnson says. I was listening to the movie
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Mom Scam of the Week, So this was last week
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: with Blairsaki when we're talking about Mom and Donna. If
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: you haven't heard it, it's a pretty wild scam, uh.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: And it reminded me of something that my mom used
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: to do for us as kids. All that also saved
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: money on movies. They messed up when they let everybody
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: that could afford a laptop have the quality or excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: the ability to burn DVDs? Like, what did they think
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen? My mom would rent the latest movies
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: from Blockbuster on a one day release and immediately burn them.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Pretty simple, right. What put my mom over the top
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: was this little scam. She also bought high gloss paper
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: and labels in the shape of discs and blank DVD boxes,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: all in bulk in parentheses. Then she would scan the
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: DVD and the box jacket cover and print them out
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: on the labels and paper respectively. Once applied to the
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: disc and jacket cover. It was like we bought the
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: movie straight from Best Buy and had shelves of the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: latest movies for fractions of the retail price. Nothing major,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: but she was skilled with it and we always had
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: the newest movies to enjoy as a family. Says ps
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  Speaker 1: A is a sis straight black man from Texas. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Htown. Okay, Htown. I'm from Dallas. Shut it down.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: You got that man up Agetown. I'm here with y'all,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Age Town. I'm here with y'all. Even if Dallas ain't.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I'm here with y'all.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, and then this
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: is in all caps, we do listen. That feels scary,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: that feels scary.
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  Speaker 2: See you up here, you up here to shitt on
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: this sound. And he ended that sentence what we do
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: listen right, I'm afraid I.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Think that was meant as a compliment. But I'm now
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: in fear. Okay, I'm shaking.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Can I just say, can I just say that this
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: is I mean, did he did he portray this as
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: like a scam that was happening? Yees?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: So, I guess what he's said is that here's what
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: brother did.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Not grow up around. Other black niggas been doing this ship.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, kudos to your mama. I loved that
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: she was doing it, but Homi's been doing this since
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: the sixties.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I just feel like your mom could have taken it
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: a step further. And she already has like the cases,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the printing capability. She got that good glass, y'all got
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a good printer in the crib that's also colored ink? Like,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: are you sure she didn't she made out on top?
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Did we crunched the numbers on this? She's got a
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: lot of I feel like we could have just got
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: one of those remember those thick. It would be like
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: a soft cover, and there was like a little purse
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for the CDs. You could just you could have put
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: all the CDs and a CD purse, right, But your
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: mom was trying to who was your mom doing this for?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Was she printed out the real DVD cover so that
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: when her homegirls came over she could be like, I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: rich in DVDs. It feels like your mom was trying
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to stunt on the community. Yeah.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that one was scamming. She was trying to stunt.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: She was. She made it flex.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like she had all of them out, you know,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: in a little shelf, and then people would come over.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: She'd be like, what y'all want to watch? We got
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that new Saving Private rhyme? Y'all trying to watch that?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Like also, because she's putting the disc safe shet on
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: the CD and if you bootlegging, you can just write
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: in sharpie what movie is on the top. She wanted
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: people to think that it was.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I don't need Denzel's face, don't remember the Titans. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: can just re remember the Titans. I ain't gotta see
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: his face on the disc. I don't need that. I
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: know who in it I know, Denzel and remember the Titans. Also,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, your mama was doing all that work
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: for kids. Which look, I'm glad your mama loved you.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Mama loved his great parents loving their kids. It's great.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Your mama should have been selling them motherfuckers to people
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: up and down the street too.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Own like a large coat that she could hang the
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: CDs in like bruh Man, and you know, disappear as
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: salons and barbershops and open the coat and sell the DVDs.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: She know, listen, when Big Mama House two came out,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: she could have made bike. She could have made bank
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: on that movie. Everybody loved martin.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: In. Just in case the cop show up, it's Big
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Mama House t o O. Not Big Mama House too, right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Right, Oh no, I got Big Mama House too, Not
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: this is House too. I just got it. Also, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: got it.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to make my house. Also, I don't
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: have to make my house number two. Okay, that's a leek, yo.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: You know what. The man already said he'd be listening,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So we did spend the last five minutes shitting on
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: his whole letter. I'm not shitting on your letther brother,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: we ain't should know your letter. I love that your
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: mama did that for y'all. It was dope, y'all. You
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: had a little secret that y'all was keeping for yourself.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: You're just saying your mama could have went further, That's
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: all we see.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand what who y'all mama was
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: doing this for, Okay, because like it's just like the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: professional quality. It's like she's returning the real DVD two blockbuster, right,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: So all this professional quality shit, like who was that for?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: If it really wanted to be a scam, she should
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: have did all that shit and then gave them the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: bootleg because you know that DVD gonna run out after
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: a while, so she got the real you know, had
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: about fifty plays that DVD gonna be scratching and skipping
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and shap so she should have kept the real ones
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: for hers. So that would have been a scam.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That's certain that the FBI with Martin Lawrence now now
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: he in address and he got shot. What happened? Oh
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it's skilled, they're probably skilled.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: It's skipped. It's skipped. It's skilled. Blockbuster quality don't gone down, y'all,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: which would.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Have been believable because they didn't got your business.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if you don't have kids, when you get kids,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: my brother or Victor, I should say, because you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: however you identify.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But Victor identify as a brother.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: You may not identify as a brother. You know what
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. But whenever you get kids, or if you
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: have kids, when you do some scammy ship, I just
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: want you to think. You know, we got a thing
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: an improv Lacy. You know this. We call it going
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: A to C. You know what I'm saying. Uh, your
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: mama went A to B. I want you to take that,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that's your step and go to see you know, go
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: to C.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: And I remind you. The end of the email says
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: we do listen. So sorry, I don't want to upset him.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Shout out to your mama, Victor. She's She's dope.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It's time for Historic hood Wings. My favorite part of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the show. This is where we were Regale Jakis, so
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the famous con Caper group of criminals squad. Maybe we
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like him, maybe we hate him, we'll see. Uh. Today
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: we're talking about a scam that started in the early nineties.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: A stowaway found frozen in the real well of a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: plane made international headlines. Well that's a dark note to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: start on.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Headlines.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: He was known as the kind of orphan teenager trying
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to escape for like to America for a better life.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Little did anyone know he would grow up to become
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: one of the world's most talented criminals. Okay, so he
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was found frozen, but not to death is what I'm.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Guessing, right, Yeah, so so he was Yeah, so he was.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Just really cold here. Frozen that means dead.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: That means yeah, or he got some missing parts, he
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: got some fingers missing or something.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I just have never heard, like we found
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: her frozen and then yeah, the next sentence she was fine,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, the next sentence is that she became a villain, right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: she became a villain, y'all.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker froze her, y'all. Fror she was mad.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yo, if I thaw out, they would keep me alive.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Just the anger, the sheer raiate me warm ands. I
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like your thaw out. It's over for years.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: You you freeze me, and I un thought I'm turning
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: into the goddamn joker.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Don't let me throw out, So let me throw out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You better make sure I stay frozen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was such a weird way to write that,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: but also hilarious. But look, guys, it's already a positive
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: upswing already.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: And she became a criminal, a world cloud of course.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: That okay, this person became a world class criminal. They
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: survived death.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Right, so let's stowaway. One summer night in nineteen ninety three,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a mechanic in Miami National Airport opened the wheel well
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the DC eight cargo jet as a part of a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: routine security check. I'm glad y'll be opening everything. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate the security checks. Instead of finding it empty, the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: mechanic found a body wearing only a T shirt and cutoffs,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: curled in a ball, unconscious and frozen like an ice cube.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: What okay?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I also feel like, I don't know. If I stowed
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: away in a plane, I feel like I probably would
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: have worked cut offs to thinking it was gonna be
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: hot in there, But the reality you are thirty five
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: thousand feet here and clouds and stuff, so it's probably chilly. Yeah.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And if we be putting dogs and shit down there too,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that's just.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Don't bring that up.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what made me think of that right
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: now and fight down there freezing fight Oh cold man,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that's why fight will be acto different every time. Y'all
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: bring them home from the train.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Did the rod dogs on the plane huck fluffy in them?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They're not built for that life for the plane stow away.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Chili frozen like an ice cube. Wow. One of two things.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Either this person is the person who wrote this has
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: a beautiful imagination and as hyperbolic as hell, or this
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: person is a superhero. How you frozen like an ice
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: cube and you're still alive? That don't compute in my brain.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Et Yeah, because the ice cube is like solid. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like when he humans, like when we get solid,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like that's pretty much it's over for it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: That's a new share of humans. When we get solid,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it's over. We're not supposed to be solid, We're supposed
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to have some softness.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe he was like an ice cube, you know, when
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you're real desperate to have ice and you have an
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: ice the little ice tray, Like I remember college, like
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: we need ice for drinks, and I was like, Okay,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw some water in this ice tray and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: put it in a freezer. So then you're checking it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: every like five minutes, like is it frozen right?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And it got that little layer, get that little.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, skinning lots happening in the middle of steal a water.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: So maybe that's what kind of cube he was like.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Just maybe si, Maybe he was just a top layer
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of ice, just the top layer of ice. He wasn't
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: frozen all the way through that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Sorry, we're laughing at frozenness. If you if you've been frozen.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: We sorry. We also email and tell your story because
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I want to know how you hear how we let.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: It go in the scam got this pot email address. Okay,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: let us know when you was frozen. So paramedics arrived
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: on the scene within fifteen minutes. The first paramedic declared
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the boy dead damn. So he was like all right,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: he saw a frozen this and was like that's what
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: we thought.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: We gotta check. Damn.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: We just hurt frozen. It was like dead, like yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: The second just barely found a pulse. Okay, come on,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: second paramedic. I'm glad we got a second opinion here
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: because they was about to throw our frozen homie in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the in the morgue.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So the plane had been carrying flowers from Bogata, Columbia,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and three and a half. It's like a three and
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a half hour flight away, meaning that anyone stowed in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the wheel well for that time survives negative fifty degree
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: temperatures at thirty thousand feet for three and a half hours.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So you feel different.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: That man, every time the old I've never used to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: be scared of flying, and I'm still not, but as
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I get older, every time I get scared of flying,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: at half percent of me realizes this is the craziest shit.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy. Like we are in a tube. Man,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I don't understand how. It's just in the damn air
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: and we just we're just traveling at like four hundred
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: miles an hour across the sky.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Like it's also other people. It's mad other tubes. It's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: other tubes from different countries all over the plate, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we're not running into each other.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not scared of flying, but every
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: time I get up in the motherfucking air, a part
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of me just thinks this is insane what we're doing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm scared of fly. Every time I get on
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the flight, I'm like, let me just surrender, like God, die,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's not in my hands anymore. I'm like, when the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: drink people come around, I'm like, please, yes, I would
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: love alcohols because I'm trying this is it for me?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I you know I might get there because
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it's crazy. And then also you it's negative fifty degrees
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: up there, like what are we doing? What are we doing?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Is wild?
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: And also like shout out to Janelle James. I'm not
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: gonna like, I don't want to spoil her special, but
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: like get into her special on Netflix The Shandeps. She's brilliant, ABT, elemental.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: She's been on this podcast. I but I love her
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so much. But she talks about in her stand up
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: special and I'll say this because Netflix has used the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: sound bite as like advertisement, so it's out there. But
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: she talks about how because of the COVID price lowering
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: of planes that there's bus people on the plane.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Now I think I don't know how to act, don't play,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and they.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Really got me thinking. I'm like, this whole time, we
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: had this etiquette on the plane, like you know, we'll
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: wear out of the mask, will sit down, will be quiet,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and now I'm like, if the bus people are on
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the plane, like why not they could just open the door.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And the door I know.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: That's the craziest ship.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Like, it'll take nothing. It's just we can open the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: door and we done. We're done.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Like and when we say bus people, I'm not talking
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: about if you take public transportation every.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Day on that we're talking about.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: We're talking about the Greyhound.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about the great We're talking about the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Mega busses.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Ridden the Greyhound. I've ridden the Mega bus. I'm allowed
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to say this. This is not me punching down. But
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: don't act like and you ain't got on one of
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: those busses if you got a good sense and be like, hmm,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: these people are peculiar.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the people on the Mega bus, especially when
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: it's some penny bunters. I didn't. I didn't took the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: penny busses before a couple of places.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: This was to be cute. It used to be like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a college thing, or at least where I was in Pennsylvania.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: We would take it, you know, from Pittsburgh Affilly or
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's New York. It was very much like a collegey
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like clean bus, Wi Fi double decker like it seemed
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: it was nice and fun and then one day it
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: just felt like the greyhound. People heard about it and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it was over.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, you mean to tell me we can get
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: on a bigger bus. Oh, let's run now clean that
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: we can dirty.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: It up like I can change my baby on the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: table that the college students used to.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Use for their papers, and it got the wi fi.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Oh we there, oh were there?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Tragic tragedy. So I do think about that. So, despite
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the dangers the boy could have suffered, such as like hypoxia,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: dietrogen gas embolism, and decompression sickness, he was awake in
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: talking with officials three hours later. The same day, the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: boy told investigators his name was Gian Morro Salas and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he was thirteen years old, and that he was from California,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: or excuse me, Cali, Colombia. I thought he'd said he
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: was from California for a second, because Cali. He's from Cali, Colombia.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He said his parents had died six months previously in
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a bus accident. Oh damn, and we was talking about
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: busses after bait. That's why he dropped out of school. Damn.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: So with no one else to house or feed him,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he decided his chances of stowing away on an airplane
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to the US were better than staying where he was.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Gadima's story made international headlines. Trusts were set up for him.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: He found a pro bono immigration lawyer, and a couple
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: from Washington offered to adopt him. Wow, I feel like
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: if you're a couple for Washington offering to adopt this
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: but oh, he's cute, you a little cute. I think
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: it's funny that the couple in DC's like, we want
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to adopt him. We'd be like your little party favorite weirdos.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: We adopted the boy from the news. Everyone, we're having
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: a salon.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: We'll break out the fine china, right, and the cheese yes.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And the sig jam. He's gonna do It was all
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: about the airplane.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Can I also say this story. I'm excited for this
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: story even more because it's about to have one hell
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: of a turn. Because everything so far, this motherfucker is
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a hero. People want to zopt him.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: A Miami police detective had to Lozano offered to house him.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, He said Garmo was always quiet, grateful
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and fitted in well, fitted in well. Sounds like a
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: scammer to me. However, toys around the house began to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: go missing, and once when the family was out, garm
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: was found to have two hundred dollars in jewels he
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: stole from hotel guests. What that jumped the shark?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, went from toys to jewels, the boy went from
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: stealing legos to crystals.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: He took a few legos and sound, okay, well, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: could probably make a pearl work.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: The authorities two weeks to realize that there was no
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Germo Rosals and that his story was far different from
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: what he had told everyone.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, no, okay, so he said he was thirteen, right, right,
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: he's seventeen.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Columbia officials discovered that Ghirmo Rosals, a thirteen year old boy,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: was seventeen year old Juan Carlos Guzman beck bedenker Wow,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: with a living aunt in Miami and very likely and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a live mother in Colombia.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: He was a result of an affair between a rich
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: man with nine other children and a woman who would
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: end up rejecting him, Between his father who had no
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: part in raising him, and his mother, who tried to
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: give him to another family member who subse subsequently wouldn't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: take him. Juan had only known rejection from childhood. Now
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna say. Huan is not giving good vibes.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like he was a kid with bad vibes.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And his mom gave a boo because she was like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: he got bad vibes.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, there's a picture of him up on the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: screen right now, And I don't know when this picture
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: was taken, but Homie look at least about thirty five
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in this picture right here, Like, yeah, I think the.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Other pictures, the one we saw where he looked younger,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that was him at seventeen. That was it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did still look older for thirteen there too,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: like in that other picture that we saw.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Right, but we were television Like people don't know what
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: thirteen looks like. In Destroyer, you got thirty year olds.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Oh euphoria, you know.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: But this is ninety three, right, this is ninety This
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: is ninety three. I mean it's even.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: In the nineties. Were literally like that. Everybody would be
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in their forties at the high school, like no mom
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: would hang like.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Henry Winkler was fucking Phonsie. Now niggas fifty happy
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: days like my man was a middle aged man playing
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: high school or on Happy Days.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: As soon as Happy Days rapt, he started selling AARP.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: We're like, right fast, he went.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: From Happy Days to sell a retirement plans so on commercial.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: To life alert like, wait a minute, we're missing something here.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Oh shit. There's also the possibility it's not to prolong
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: this part, but there's also a possibility that and this
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: is me giving the criminals and the scammers the benefit
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of the doubt, because that's what we do. There's also
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the possibility that you asked him too many questions too
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: soon after he was a frozen ice cube. His brain
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: was probably scrambled. He probably really.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Thought he was thirteen. Thawed out for three hours though.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, we gotta get a brain a little bit
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: more time, all right, Okay, he was on the temperature. Okay, okay,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: hey listen, you the scam godess I'm learning at your feet.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: So his story ready, Okay, you're right. He wasn't incohering
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: like I think I'm fourteen thirteen, like he was ready, like, okay,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: you're right, Okay.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: He said he was generalal solids. He already had a name.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was like Johnny couch Water.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't come up with missus doubtfire.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: He came up with He didn't do it missus doufire.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Just survey the room and make a name up. He
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: had Garama Rosalas ready.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, rab.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Run So. Additionally, growing up in the like growing up
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: gay in the machismo culture of Guayabel, Colombia, and it's
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like a kind of shanty down on the outskirts of Cali.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what a shanty down is, but I'm
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: guessing it's like, oh, okay, we have a photo.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: It's like a shack.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like some of like some kind of shacks in
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the forest. It looks like, yeah, it's giving forest. But
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: there's also like a nice look at house back there too.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, like that's the crazy thing about some of U,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like these international places I've been to. I've been to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Colombia and I was in right, I ain't in Columbia.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: And it's why like normally you don't get like a
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: mansion like here in America. In many places you don't
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: get like a mansion and then a motor home right
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: next door to each other. But over there you will,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you will get a mansion and then about forty yards
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: down the street is the poorest motherfucking house that you've
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: ever seen in your life. And and it's it's pretty wild.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Feel about that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It's very It was very that it's not segregating, because
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least, like you gotta get some kind
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: of benefit for living next to the mansion, right.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I guess. So listen, if it was me, I want
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I want us to be segregated. I'm talking as a
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I'm talking as a poor person. I'm talking as a
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: poor person, not as a rich person. As a poor person.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I know you're talking about it as a poor person,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. I'm like, I don't know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: do I want to live near the mansion?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I don't want to remind I don't want to be reminded.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Then I ain't got money.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: But I mean the mansion person has to be, you know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: at least making sure the wifis did it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's true, that's true.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Something I can get off of it, right, you right?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And you can hear clear music when they had parties
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and shit, no, you're right, you're right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Terrible man, I'm gonna get canceled right after that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm sorry. They said, you don't want to
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: bom me on here.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, and immediately blamed me, blaming immediately. I'm so sorry,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: but this was your choice. Anyways. Continue, So this is
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: on the outskirts of Cali. And you know, he had
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: his own difficulties because he's a gay man. He's living
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: in a culture that does not, you know, embrace that,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and that's very difficult as well. In July nineteen ninety three,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Huan was deported back to Colombia, looking very different from
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the scarfey stowaway, in a new suit and a new
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: pair of Sony headphones. So they sent him back to Columbia.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But they say, you can keep the drip. That's I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: help with that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Like that. Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: After becoming known to the world as a miracle stowaway,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Huan's charmed fluency and four languages and uncanny ability to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: pick wealthy targets would lead him to a long career
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as a gentleman thief. I'm own gentleman thief.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Gentleman thief. I mean, like he here's the thing, like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: he hasn't he's an attractive dude, right and and like
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and you can tell that he has charisma. Anybody that
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: can unthall and get your story straight and within three
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: hours got Will Smith level charisma.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's popping. And honestly, like I can't rob like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: I do want to just have the lingering scent of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Tom Ford or Aqua Velva something where I'm like, Wow,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: a gentleman thief.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You get them because he he talking to the to
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: your pheromones, to the right part of your pheromones. He
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: gets you. He he's disarming. There's nothing worse than a
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: disarming criminal, because those are motherfuckers that be stealing the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: most because you don't see it, you don't see it coming,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and you feel comfortable around them, and they take advantage
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And you let him do it multiple times.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. That's Guiermone.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: So with Kwan's forging his own like he was forging
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: his own fake id's and stealing passports, nothing could stop him.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: In the summer of two thousand and three, a string
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of burglaries hit Las Vegas. So he's back in the States. Okay,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: dinte In the USA, in particular, the head of security
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: at Illustrious four Seasons, the hotel you know, had a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: story to tell about a man who called himself Daniel Gold. Okay,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: now this name is a little sloppy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but now that now that brain freezing caught up
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: with him. You're just looking around, Daniel Gold Goal. Well,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the ceiling is go go go.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Go, Dang Gold. I'm toning money trauma.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I'm a I'm Joseph Ringlight.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: This is from your own place. He was trying to
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: give the girls like richness, though he was like, you know,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Daniel Gold. A handsome, smartly dressed young man had walked
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: into the hotel and gone directly to the receptionist and
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: told her he wanted his up to date room chargers.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Several minutes later, he returned to the front That's saying
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he misplaced his room key and needed a new one.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: For proof, he offered id with his photo the name
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Daniel Gold. It was later discovered that he had an
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: additional room where he'd photo copy and forge documents with
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: his new key. So the man known as mister Gold
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: went up to his four thousand dollars a night sweet,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: but when he entered, he heard voices of the actual
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Gold family's children and a nanny from an adjoining room.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So Basically he was at the hotel in like a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: crappier room, and he was copying people's passports and copying
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: their IDs, and then he'd be like, I'd like to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: see my up to date room chargers. So Daniel Gold
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: was a real person, and he went up to the room.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not this is where I am confusion. You know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the real Daniel Gold hasn't checked out, so right.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: So why you? Yeah? And you had to at some
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: point get into his room anyway to steal his shit, right, Yeah.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: So when he heard the nanny and the children, he
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: left the suite and, using a phone in the hallway
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: connected to the room, pretended to be a staff member
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: telling the nanny that mister Gould wished to see his
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: children in the spa and they should leave immediately. So
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: he so he didn't give up. When he heard the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: nanny and the kids of the room, he left. He
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: went outside. He was like, hello, this is the full seasons. Uh,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: this is Clive speaking. Uh.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He turned his man Oliver twist.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Mister Gow would.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: Love to see his kids during the's massage. He said,
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: you gotta see him real quick right now.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: He's just like, where are you calling from? Man we
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: in Vegas. Yeah, no, I.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: Bucket the full seasons. My name missa Clive light switch?
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Oh oh light switch? All right, I'll be right down.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: I'll be right there.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Right. So once they left the phone, mister Gold called
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the front desk and said his room safe wasn't working.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: An hour later, the actual Gold family arrived to find
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: the safe unlocked, in more than two one thousand dollars
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: worth of jewels, rolex washes, and cash gone. As room
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: after room of wealthy patrons were rated, it became clear
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: that not only had Huan become exceptionally skilled at discovering
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: key information and using it to take advantage of the
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: vulnerabilities and security, he picked his victims with uncanny precision,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: so he could tell if you really were about that
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: money life, Like he could tell who was big balling
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and who was shot calling right right, because this I've
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: never been to a hotel and was like, let me
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: put two hundred thousand dollars worth of valuables in a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: hotel safe. That is really dumb.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Why you bring what you bring in that for like,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is not waterproof.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You gotta tell them to massage underneath the roles. You
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: gotta keep that bitch the stickle finger under.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Their sticking trying to homicage my wrist. My wrists all good,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: my risk good, my risk, feel great, massage on my wrists?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Right? If you have enough ship that's that valuable at
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a hotel, like you're kind of moving weird, Like why
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: are you taking all that ship with you if you're
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: not gonna wear it on your body?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: You don't need it. Yeah, you don't need it. You
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: don't need it at all.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: That's what I also say about designer luggage, like, if
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you want to get designer luggage, you better be flying private.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And if you want to have a designer it needs
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to be a carry on so that you're always taking
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it with you on the plane. Because if y'all are
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: checking Louis bags, y'all are dumb. Are you kidding me? Tis,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I can open up your bag, break your lock for
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: any old reason they've done to me.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: And several times, and they ain't gonna take care of
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that ship. They're gonna purposely throw that ship in there.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Oh Louis bag hit that hit every wall in the
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: motherfucking airplane.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Can't get me puzzing it all in. They want to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: make sure your ship looks rough get back, So I'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: not smart. So the Goals were on vacation because their
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: house was being renovated and brought all their valuables with
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: them for fear of being robbed. Okay, so Goals, how
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: did y'all, let smooth talking, nice smelling asswan get you
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to tell this much personal information? Well, you are on vacation,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you can make you some little vacation friends. I know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: couples get bored. Y'all got these kids, y'all got the nanny,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: y'all can put them off on. Maybe I thought I
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: was making a little bonding situation, but don't tell people that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: That's just like if you have a Facebook or even
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a Twitter, you don't need to tell people when you're
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: out of town, mostly on Facebook because they might know
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: where you live. Don't tell people when you're out of
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: town on Facebook so you can get robbed.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's dumb. It's dumb. I the amount that
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: we feel comfortable talking to strangers about personal shit is
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: is because you're thinking, Lord, I ain't gonna see them again. Also,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you trying to make yourself look better, look cooler, And meanwhile,
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: wanna here like I'm about to rob you.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Right, robes? Why taking notes?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: One was taking notes? Baby Wine was like, baby, I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: didn't survive. Yeah.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: My name is Daniel Gold. This is my wife, Hattie mctrophy.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And we're just here because our place is being renovated.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And you know how that goes, old pal, you know
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you're renovating. We took all our valuables. Didn't want the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Mexicans to steal you know what I mean?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Not you, though you're one of the good ones. You're
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: at the Four Seasons.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, terrible Mexicans.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what's that paper?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: What are you doing over there?
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I'm writing stocks? I'm writing stocks.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Oh you're writing stocks. I love some stocks man myself.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You know I got two hundred thousand dollars in the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: same What are you doing?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I got my trades upstairs.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Dummy, Dale, you deserve to be robbed. I don't feel
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: bad for you.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I don't feel bad for nobody in the story yet,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: like that Daniels or that Wine is robbed or what
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: you say? What's this? What's his real name? Win name?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, Garrimo was his plane name. His real name, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: they'll go this is his hotel name. So in two
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: thousand and one, there was a string of similar unresolved
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: robberies or unsolved robberies in London where a man had
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: stolen over eighty thousand dollars worth of jewelry cash from
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: several luxury hotels and spend another ten thousand dollars with
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a stolen credit card and a high end closed and
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: chauffeur driven Bentley. So he took a credit card and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna get the drip and I'm also
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: gonna get a whip chauffeur. So he's keeping up the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: facade because you know, somebody pulls up in a high
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: end Bentley and they have a driver and they get
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: out and they're like, ARMANI prevay everything. No, So not
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: only did the man bag high yielding thefts like the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Vegas robbery, he was interested in the money as he
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: was like he was interested in the money as much
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: as he was interested in the luxury goods and services.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So he was living life well you know what I mean,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Like he knew how to spend coin, and I shade that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: It was later discovered that during a night out he
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: had tipped a barman thirty thousand dollars wait he went
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: out and as a tip, he gave a barman a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars potake fully be watched. I can't say
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: it's potake, Philip, Philip, No, I don't know. Yeah, it's
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a really expensive but a POTAO. You know, I just
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: know some like all the rap songs, but it's a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars watch. And he was like, hey, you
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: go keep the change, like what so unflappable and smooth
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: with Swan's operation that during another robbery had a five
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: star hotel in Beverly Hills, he was able to talk
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: his way out even when the suite owner came back early.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: He told the couple that he was a member of
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the staff on a routine check and that is compensation
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: for the unwonted surprise. He would send up a complimary
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: bottle of champagne. So they came back to their room.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: What all in they safe? He's wearing a suit, he's
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: wearing Gucci, he's wearing Top four, but he all in
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: the safe. He's looking through the pana drawer and then excuse.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Me, and he's like, oh, hey, I'm just making sure
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: your stuff is warm and folded.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: We do these routine checks of the underwear drawers. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: it's just because terrorism is would.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Be surprised they be putting the anthrax in the panties
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: and also in the mini bar. Mmmmm, you want that
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: had a lot of cases.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: We call them in eight seventy threes. And y'all aren't
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: supposed to see this. You know, I'm gonna sit y'all
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: like dumber.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna send y'all love a bottle. I wanna send
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: y'all love a bottle for the inconvenience. Oh okay, go ahead,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: all right, He'll be. I love this hotel. They think
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of everything here, uh sports.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: He then left the room, went to the restaurant and
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: ordered the hotel's most expensive bottle, charging it to the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: couple's account. When the Las Vegas detectives got.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: I will send you up a bottle of champagne, he
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: go down and send a bottle to my room. Put
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: it on the room.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Oh I love this brook, he said, I'm a sedule bottle.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: He did say, I'm a pay for it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love this bund.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Like he could take one L. Like I know you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: stole a lot of money. You can take one L
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and just buy the bottle of champagne just to get
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: off sopper you and charged them. He's so disrespectful.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Oh that is fucking beautiful.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: He's rude. This is disrespectful, and I love it. So
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: when the Las Vegas detectives started to hear about the similarities,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: they began contacting authorities around the world to gather stories
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and connect the dots. When a string of burglaries took
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: place at several London top hotels in November two thousand
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and four, authorities are ready for Juan. Wow. So now
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, two thousand and four. I remember the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: him sending a couple of the champagne that he that
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: they paid for. That was two thousand and one. It's
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: just that fourth three years later he is still He's
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: hopping the globe. He's going, you know, to all the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: posh cities and getting the girls.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: And at this point, this dude is under thirty. Because
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: if in ninety three he was seventeen two thousand and three,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four, late twenties, that point, right, I mean.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Listen, this is what I call taking advantage of your
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: twenties year hot your young supple skin. You get out
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: there and you do those robberies, yeah, young thang.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: You sex it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: On occasion. Well, I would pretend to be a guest
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: loitering in the lobby, drinking coffee in the lounge, or
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: ordering drinks at the bar, while actually profiling targets, grabbing
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: names from discarded checks, and ease dropping on reception. Using
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: misinformation and sometimes a fake ID, Juan could become anyone.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: In the final London burglary at the Dorchester on Park Lane,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: he stole around fifty thousand dollars worth of watches, cash
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and clothes, including a two thousand dollars Valentine, a leather jacket,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and a Frank and a Frank Mulair watch. Wow or Muller.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know this brand. Frank Muller.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: I think I've heard of this brand.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I was reading it like Muclair, but it's not Mclair,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's it's Muller. I think it's Muller, Frank Muller. So
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: he stole a Valentin, a leather jacket and a Frank
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Muller watch. He was not damn, He's Robin.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Was robbing. He was robbing everybody for the good shit
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: too right.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: And he pretty much exclusively seemed to do this at hotels.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I think he found his kniche he knew how to
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: work it. And when you think about it, hotels do
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: have lots of places where you can get information from people.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Like if you want to see someone's hotel room once
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: they pay at a bar, if they leave a receipt
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: or you know, the checkout with the you know, signed
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: copy and the tip or whatever, you can open that
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and see what their room number was and their name.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Or if you're listening to reception, people are giving their
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: personal information right then in there, Like there's so many
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: places at hotels where you're giving up personal information to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: check in, check out, buy things.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Mmmm smart smart, let me tell you. And I love
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: this movie, but they had the movie Catch Me if
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you Can with the Leonardo DiCaprio frank A Miguel also
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: kind of similar to this dude, right, oh you talked
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: about it, so yeah, kind of similar to this dude
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like going around to like running scams on like things
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't think you should run scamming, and he was
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: running crazy scams. I want to see a movie about
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: this dude, because this man was this man was doing
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: some crazy shit, like you know, at some like at
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: some point somebody in the FBI had a beat on
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: him and they couldn't catch him for like two or
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: three years.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Oh of course, like like it took him forever to
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: even put it together. This is probably the same person. Yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: and all of the thefts were the same. Also, y'all,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I have descriptions. Everybody wasn't like, he's really young and
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: attractive Colombian.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Man, right, It ain't that many Colombian men out there
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: rob not like this, not like this, you know what
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think in any race. You could probably narrow
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it down if they were any race, because like, who's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: out here just like robbing people in suits? Smelling like
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: you know, Patchulian old wood, Like that's what I imagine.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: He smells like, imagine he smells.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: So good, smell like bread.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I just say, it's very disarming when people smell good.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: It is just like, oh, they must have something going on.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: It's disarming, disarming, disarming criminals.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I always kick myself when I forget to put on
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: perfume because I'm like, oh, that's one of my superpowers.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Like people be like you smell so good, you know,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: trying to get you. Oh, Yeah, it's you gotta give
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: people a censor experience. It's good. So by the Simper.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and four, Scotland Yard detective Andy Swindles what
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: a last name? Had been owing Wan for several years. Ah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you're lay many. You're following him for several years. You
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: lose our following him for several years. If you couldn't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: catch him in six months, you should have gave up quick.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: But let this man live. Let him live, because we live.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: So it was for that reason he was able to
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: immediately recognize Huan walking down the street after walking home
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: from a bar around the corner. Dang, Andy, I hate,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I hate you found him like this? Wan?
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: He was probably he was. He was like, you know what,
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a night off for robbing people and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: just go have me a couple of glasses of wine.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Go ahead and dance to ignition remix.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: No there right, he did not listen to our callerie.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know no more, not no more. But in
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: two thousand and four, two.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Thousand and four, he probably could have been like bounced
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: bounce right, shouldn't have been.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: But you shouldn't have been. Also, didn't that name hit
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: hit the name just popped up and said some Soriano
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: something was his name, not even one, it was one.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Say that mug shot again. So in the meantime MO
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: they pulled it up. Hawan was immediately arrested and taking
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the custody while police were able to track down his
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: apartment and finally find a troll for physical evidence to
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: his thefts and multiple aliases. During questioning, Huan was held
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: so hard to a fake alias that, despite knowing the better,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: detectives were almost fooled. So he when they arrested him,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he had a fake alias. He wasn't going by Huanhe
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: what I saw him? Yeah. He was eventually found guilty
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: and sentenced to only three and a half years to
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: the Stanford Hill Prison on the Isle of Sheppe. Only
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: dad won't even got more.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Sixty years attractive as.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: He got the drip one in the handcuffs.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: He got a little Polos you know, he got like
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: the perfect chisel jaw with the right amount of stubble
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: that classes.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Whan, wherever you at, Bruh, you should be in Hollywood
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: You got a look, Ronnie, did you got them a list? Looks? Boy?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Why look like? Why look like he's gonna be the
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: next Superman in the goddamn little Clark.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Can't ask one? Oh my god, you want the keys
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: to my safe?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Shit, you ain't have to do all that. Maybe all
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: you have to do is ask. You ain't have to ride.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: About one, okay and not the two. Yes, we said
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: we stay. He doing it. I'm not mad at.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Him all right now, I know what I need to
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: do to look better. I need to go get frozen
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: like an ice cube.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Cry at seventeen. He did three hours of cryout right
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and it worked out. Shit, y'all doing Croyd for fifteen minutes.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's not long enough.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Not long enough. You gotta go freeze almost die shit because.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: His cells are regenerating. My goodness. Okay, so he got
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: three years and shipping. I guess the ship. It sounds
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like something British shit in America. We got prisons called rikers,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like we.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Got we got terrible names. We got ship that sounds
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: scary name.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: The name alone sounds terrified. So this has to be
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: in the UK. Ship it welcome to ship.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: In prison ship.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: How would you like to be locked up today? Like? Yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: shep is in Kent, England, thank you. Uh so, yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: we're right. Shepper is definitely not in America because America's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: prisons be like Shank Murder Correctional facility. We don't have
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: names for our prisons.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Don't nobody do obay? That ship sound terrible.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Sounds they trying to put Bay in it to make
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: it sound like you.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Right, we watched straight in to Day. We know what
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Pelican Bay is like, trying to get in our names.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Right, don't sound good. Actually, I would rather be Shank
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Murder correction right at least then I'm not on the island.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Like right, he's another one that's the alcatrazsh that doesn't
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: sound good.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: That just sounds terrible. That's a scary fucking name.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Alcatraz. That sounds like, I'm nice.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Alcatraz had a nickname too, it was called the Rock
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: like you No, that's just sound bad, man.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: And that ship is in the middle of the ocean.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And now they give tours a abation and they're like, yeah,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: this is where they all got syphilists, and this is
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, no, what okay? So Shipping, So he's
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: sentenced It says only three and a half years. So
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: whoever authored this, and I know Kaitlin does excellent research,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: so there's a lot of different articles and stuff. But
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: whoever may be probably wrote only in front of three
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and a half years. No, three and a half is
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: more than us.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: He ain't kill nobody.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: He robs people of some things. Okay, people weren't paying
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: all their taxes anyway.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nobody hurt? They fine, They fine.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Everyone's fine, Okay. Several months into his sentence, he used
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a fake toothache and a doctor's visit to escape my man.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Of course you could be. Here's a shipping they you
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: probably get like that good dental.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Right yo, he said I got a toothache. They literally
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: took him to a dentist.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: What that's crazy? Idel, Like in American you say you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: got two things with security guard, just go hitch.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: You in the mouth with a time which too. All right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: let me pull it out for you. They're just gonna
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: put them on fuck you out, all right. We don't
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: get dental, no novacaine and nothing.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't get dental when you free in America?
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. And the motherfuckers who can. If you
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: don't know it, you only got it. People was on Medicare.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: You can get free dental and medicare if you ask
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: for it. They ain't gonna offer that ship.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: To if you asked for that. It's a part of
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: your plan.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: It's a part of your plan.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: If you know you're not gonna tell you though.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: You gotta guess. You gotta you gotta find out. You
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: gotta find out you got it.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: And so the arresting detective responded, our first reaction was
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: we laughed when when he escaped from the dentist office.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: He was like, oh, my tooth, my brain, and then
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: he got to the dentist office and he left. The
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: detective was like, we was cracking up. It was actually hilarious.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all have a good sense of humor. So Juan was
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: arrested several weeks later after hitting the Marianna Hotel in Dublin, Win.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: He should have just my man, should have went to
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Australia somewhere or Asia where they ain't got extradition laws
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: and just chilled.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I know, he escaped with no money, so unless he
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: had a bank account, he had to he had to
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: do one more.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: He was on he was on the wet bandits home
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: alone ship. He got out of jail and needed to
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: rob the toy stock.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure he was gonna skip down after that.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: But you gotta know when you are the hotel bandit
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that people they the hotels know about you.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Girl. Yeah, you gotta you gotta, you gotta change it up.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: They probably got face.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Up in the in the back room where they you know,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: do the linens and and prep the room service, like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: everybody knows who you are. You can't go back to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: hotel th even not especially not in the you know country.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: You got caught.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Damn, you gotta sco You gotta go rob some country
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: clubs and some ship.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta switch it up.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: They got lockers at the country clubs.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But you know what, though, he probably didn't have all
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: his drip, like they raided his apartment. He you know,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: he's in prison, so he doesn't really have his set
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of tools.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Uh So, I bet you if we saw a picture
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: of him right after jail, it was like he got
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: hit with some kryptonite. He probably looked bad too, So I.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Don't know those shipping they might have haircuts, they might
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: they might let him go to the dentist office and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: his suit he might be I feel more comfortable in
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: my suit at the dinnist and on whatever.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: That's why people are to crying, man, like they can't
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: help themselves. Right, you you broke out of jail and
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: you free, like they ain't find you for several months,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: which means you have been successful.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: But he wasn't waiting the law. But I don't know
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: how he made it over several weeks without you know,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: any access to cash. But so, with multiple charges in
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: multiple countries, he was eventually extradited to France, where charges
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: were pending, and while charges were pending in the United States.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: So France was like, we want to turn and then
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: the US was like, then bring him to us so
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: we can.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Take it to the real jails, right, so we can
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: take that motherfucker the rikers, so we can.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Start making making license plates. He's gonna make license pleas
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: for us and hand sanitiza up since.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be fighting wildfires in California.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: This is so fucked And then when he get out
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: of prison, he can't become a firefighter.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: What right, right? Fucked up?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: It's so fucked up. Literally, persons are just slavewaybro, They're like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: let's get as many people in the jail as we can,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: black and brown preferred, and then work them.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Todn't well pay him Wallam twelve cents.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: So he took the opportunity to flee the United States,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: where he's got charges pending in the US. He took
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: that opportunity to flee to the United States, where he
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: would be arrested in Vermont after getting caught at the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Canadian border. After serving thirty months and being released, he
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: was arrested again in Hong Kong. Damn, bro, Look, I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: know you're tired of handcuffs.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he don't look as good.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's starting to look a little worn down. The
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: arrests are getting to him. Like an addict. His lives
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: grew more ambitious and his execution more careless as he
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: chased his obsession with wealth and luxury. Eventually, in March
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, he was sentenced to fifteen months after stealing
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: two hundred and seventeen thousand euros roughly about two hundred
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: and forty five thousand US dollars worth of cash and
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: jewelry from the hotel Disneyland in the city of Chessi, France.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: As of today, Juan Guzman, but the cure whereabouts are unknown,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and he remains one of the world's most talented and
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: untrustworthy criminals. So I would imagine that he's still out
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: here doing this.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still out here. He's still out here doing
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the damn thing. And the crazy part too, is it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: wild because it's I mean, you say you talked about this,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: so you know Frank Abigail because he's a white man
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: who is a criminal. This man eventually got a job
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: in the FBI helping them, like helping them catch people
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: who was doing what he was doing. Right, if the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: government was smart, they'd be like, bruh, I'm tired of
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: catching you. You tie of being caught man? Right this
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Like like let's help each other out here, brother, Like,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: why don't you come work for us. We're gonna pay
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: you six figures a year and you can work your
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: way up to seven figures. But like, come on, bruh,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Like I'm tired.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: We're still such a waste of government places.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, So to keep catching this man, like either put
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: him away for good or or let this man live. Right,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: let the man live, because as soon as he get out,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: he gonna do the same.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Shit exactly let him live and know the way the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: laws are set up, It's like I can't really charge
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: him for much, you know, Like fifteen months is like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit over a year, thirty months, like he's
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: doing like twoish years. But I don't know.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I just I think, let him go, let him go,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: let him go.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: He's free now, and I don't know how he's doing.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I hope he's doing well.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I'll be doing good. I like or wan, I like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: one one.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Wherever you are out there, stay scheming. Still very proud
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: of you, love your work. Huge fan guys. That brings
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: us at the end of an episode a long one.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: As always, if you want to snitch on your friends
• 1:04:49
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• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Jaquis we love to ask here where would you like
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: to be found? And I think he'd like to promote.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: Oh what a beautiful thing. First of all, I'm so
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: happy and proud for you of you lazy You're you're
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: killing it. Like you said before, we've known each other
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: for what about five six, seven years now, so like
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: it's so dope to see people you come up with
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: killing the game. Congrats on the Best Crime Scam Award.
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