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Interview with Mama SunFiyahh from Witchtok. · The Philip Ryan Deal Podcast

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Welcome to the very first brujo Ryan podcast.
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My name is Ryan, and I'm going to be your host tonight.
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We're going to be talking to Mama Sunfire, who is the queen
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of who do on Tech top. I've become quite popular on
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Tick, Tock myself accruing, about 65 thousand followers, and
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it's been really great and I I decided that I wanted to
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interview other people on which talk that I find to have amazing
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content or amazing spiritual practitioners, who are very
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inspirational and Mama Sunfire is at the top of my list.
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So welcome. Welcome, welcome.
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And without further Ado, we are going to interview mamas on
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fire. Now, right after an
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announcement, Hello.
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Hello. Can you hear me?
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Okay, I can indeed, I think clear.
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Hey everybody! Its Bruno!
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Ryan on the first brujo Ryan podcast and we have got Mama
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Sunfire. Right here on the phone, she was
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your number one. Most requested Tick-Tock.
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ER, To be interviewed and we love you.
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That's the truth. Oh, I love you guys, too.
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So, yeah, I mean, you have such an amazing and interesting story
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and your content is always fresh and you bring so much
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information. But you also bring so much like
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entertainment move on to all of your tick-tocks.
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And I guess the big question is like, what, what made you get?
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Tick-Tock like what brought you to it.
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You want the truth. Okay?
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So the truth is a friend of mine from Facebook.
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I've I'm a Facebook person or I was a Facebook person and she
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was, she did a lot of tick-tocks, which I thought were
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really funny and she says, hey, what's your tribe Tick-Tock?
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There are a lot of herbalism spiritual people on there and I
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said, ah she sent a video, a tick tock and I followed it.
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I can't remember who it was. It was the most hilarious video
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I've seen in a long time. Long time.
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And because of that video, I tried my first Tick Tock and
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fell in love with it. Of course, it was doing covid
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time so you know stuck in the house and one Tick Tock is and
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was out of how many I have now, but 170,000 people later I'm
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stuck on. I'm stuck Tick-Tock.
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How does it feel to have such a huge following?
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It's Amazing. It's a it's a it's scary.
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I'm learning a lot because the personalities here on Tick-Tock
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are little different from some of the other social media
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platforms. I'm on, but it is very
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overwhelming, and I am really grateful and thankful for it.
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So I really appreciate everyone who's taking the time to follow
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me and comment and all that other stuff.
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I'm really honored. So what do you think are some of
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the pros of being on the app and some of the cons?
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Like what are your favorite parts of the app?
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Well, surely. I love the videos though.
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The songs thus lip-syncing. And that's my favorite part
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because I love music and and I don't know of any other platform
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that offers that well, I guess there are some But I like Tick
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Tock. And then the people here seem to
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be quite supportive of one another, depending on the number
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of people, I'll call it the common folk.
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Yeah. Pretty supportive, the cons, the
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cons to it. Is that the council Community to
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Camp cancel is pretty strong here.
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And then Some of the people I have I have run into some very,
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very mean-spirited people. And so it's kind of, you know,
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you have to weed through the negativity because they're quite
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a few people varying ages and some people can be really,
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really mean and so if they're you know good and bad to all
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things but overall I really love tick-tock.
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Odd. Me too, I agree with you.
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Yeah. So tell us about your life in
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the church so because that time I remember the time you posted
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that picture of you and you are in in your minister uniform and
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I was like no way Yahweh go. Tell us about your spiritual
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journey because you have all the time in the world here to tell
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us. About how you were raised, how
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you got involved in the church and then how you, you know,
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became who you are now. Yeah.
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Well, just like any other kind of initiated a religion, many of
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the times, you much of the time you are born into it.
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You know, of course, you know, there are those who come by it,
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come through it and and initiated into it, or became a
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member of it. But overall, in my family, we
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were born into Christianity. I come from a long line of
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ministers. On my father's side.
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My grandmother on my yeah, my grandmother was one of the
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founding members of Family church.
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And so there's a lot of history for for my father's side of the
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family as far as religion. And of course, my mother's side.
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We've always been Christian. So I was raised in a Christian
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household. Several Generations, grandmother
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took watched me and took care of me so I was always in church
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Vacation Bible School, Sunday school.
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I was in it all choir on various boards and so that was my entire
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And then, when I became a teenager, a young adult.
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I got saved, like, for real, yeah, I got saved and I started
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going to various churches. Well, actually my best friend at
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the time. Her mother and her family.
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They were Pentecostals. And I was Baptist so we didn't
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do that, Pentecostal stuff. But it was very interesting the
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experiences that I had in her church and as I got older is
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just church was Is not anything that I forgot and it just was a
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big part of my life, you know, starting from when you were in
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diapers, until well, starting from when I was in diapers until
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College, you know, that was all I ever did on Sundays where it
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was church. So, you know, just into
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adulthood, you know, you know how it goes into adulthood and
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still a part of the church. The thing about it though I have
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always been a bear. Quizzed of person and I like to
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study into research. So as I became an adult and then
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became part of a Ministry where I became a minister I would do
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the research and I found out a lot of things that he didn't
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teach that wasn't taught in church per se and I had
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questions, but I filed them in the back of my mind and the
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recesses of my mind so as the devil.
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So so that the devil wouldn't He tricked me and make me think
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things that aren't really true. You know you know.
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So it just was that that Journey that just about everybody has,
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you know? But when I became an adult, I
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became a Pentecostal, I put away my Baptist, my Missionary
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Baptist shirt and clothing and exchange it for a long
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Pentecostal skirt with socks and tennis shoes and a t-shirt with
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my head cut. The little bit, you know, a
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little here. I don't wear my head covered,
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but I wore my I wore the some of the little homely is looking
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clothes I've ever seen. I look back on my picture, I was
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like good. Ah, you can tell I would say,
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no. But what, what is the Song of
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Solomon? Say it said you were comely.
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I will cover come, I was homely. That's what only yes, little
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sister. I was a, it was a running joke,
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you know, because in the churches that I went to, I'ma
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get to what you ask me, but in the churches that that I went to
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the women, I'll had this uniform way of looking, you know.
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So you know, of course, it was the very modest clothing which
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there's nothing wrong with that. We couldn't wear jewelry.
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No makeup. Very, you know, very plain.
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And there's nothing wrong with, you know, not wearing makeup.
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I'm just but very Why not to me not much thought was put into
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look at any kind of way, and then the hair was always the
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same. You know, you pulled back in a
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bun, French grow with some curls on the side of something, you
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know, something very plain anyway.
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So the running joke. Is that one of the sisters
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always, she was really extra. Holy, you know, she was
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Sanctified and she saw was talked about how people could
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see God on her and knew that she was a woman of God and new.
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By just knowing that the Holy Spirit rest on her, you know,
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all these kinds of things, they knew it, you know because she
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was a peculiar person in all these things that she talked
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about herself and the and the side joke was no they knew the
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shoes been accosted at Casa del homely as skirt, she had on a
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few things. Where you know, because of what
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we believe we should you know, a woman that God should look like
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and I fit into that mold into that stereotype but you know, as
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I got older I just I began to after studying, after going to
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through ministers training and getting my being ordained and
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all those things starting my own Ministry, and being having been
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a minister and lay Minister Sochi.
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It pastor of a church and all of that, good stuff.
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I had a tragedy to happen to me. And the person that I love
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dearly died, and I was already teetering in and out of church.
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Anyway. As a matter of fact, I had just
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come back to church because, you know, some years prior to that I
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had been kicked out of church, you know, at and out of the
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ministry that I was part of I was completely excommunicated
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from the ministry. Wow.
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Oh yeah, yeah, they kicked me out because I had dared to ask
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questions and to questions a man of God, so I obviously had a
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devil or demon and actually they prophesy told me that something
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terrible was going to happen to me because I dared to question
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the man of God. So they put me out.
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So, you know, it took a lot for me to go back to church, but I
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did and my, you know, the person that man that I was in love with
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Time he died and it made me ask the hard questions because of
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the circumstances around his death and the vision that I got
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and the experience that I had with him that at the time and I
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just asked God what was the truth and that I didn't care
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where the truth led me. I just wanted the truth and I
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heard plain as day, you know, people say there's you know, you
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do. Really hearing.
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I heard it within myself. I don't think I Heard a Voice
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external of myself, but I definitely heard within me.
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And when I said, I wanted the truth and myself said or God
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said, you sure? And I said, and I said, my
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answer was sponsor was yay. Lord, I'm sure wherever you,
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take me, I will go. And God said, even if I take you
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here and then I had a vision. And I said, ye Lord, I'll go.
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And so I woke up and May 15 and that day he died.
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And it took me a long time to adjust to him being gone and I
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ate myself into a heart attack. And I got very, and I got very
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sick and had a very I had a, what did I have myocardial
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infarction? Is that a spontaneous?
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Oh, wow. Yeah, at 47.
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Oh wow. Yeah, I was overweight.
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I was stressed. I work, third shift.
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I didn't get any sleep and so I was diagnosed with congestive
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heart failure, diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea,
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chronic fatigue and obesity. And the Cardiologist told me at
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that time, you know, he said that everything that I had was
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diet-related and asked me if I wanted to live, or if I wanted
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to die. And he told me that if I didn't
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change my way, and what I was doing that, I'd be dead within
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that year. And so I made that change and
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because of that, what I call a near-death experience.
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Because, I mean, I'd have to tell you what happened to me,
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that brought me to this place, but I definitely had an
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experience. And when I, when I came to, I
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thought I wasn't sure if I was in heaven or where I was, you
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know, I had to look around for him in the ligate myself.
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Am I still here and so but, you know.
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So that was the, that was the, the final thing.
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You know, it's his death. And the final thing was, was,
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was my own personal near-death experience that pushed me to
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what I would consider. Her the truth and I haven't, I
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haven't gone back, you know, because I've learned in being on
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this road, now I realized that I've actually come 360 a full
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circle, and I've made my entire Revolution my entire cycle
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around and I'm in a place. Now where I realized that a lot
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of what I learned then, as a Christian, I'm doing right now
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is a root worker. It is the Bible.
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Teaches that is one and the selfsame spirit.
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And so you know this journey being a worker being a
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spiritualist, is it for me is the same Journey I'm doing this.
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When I tell you Ryan I'm doing the same exact thing.
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I'm doing the same exact thing preaching and teaching the
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gospel. I'm teaching the good news as an
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evangelist, I was ordained as an evangelist and Tick-Tock is the
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is the platform and social media platform.
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Are I evangelize? You know amen, hallelujah yes,
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yes. And you know you can see it you
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can see in someone's eyes and through to their soul when
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somebody has come around. Yeah and experienced the spirit
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and experience life. And yeah, I mean man to
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massively traumatic experiences for you to pull you around to
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that. And now At about.
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And so how did you start pulling yourself up with the diet and
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and all of that? Like where did you begin?
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Well to start that. I was when I when I tell you, I
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was terrified, I think I was afraid because it wasn't that I
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was afraid to die. I just didn't want to leave my
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new grandbaby. I just my daughter had just had
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her first child and I wanted to be around to be grandma.
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And so, my cardiologist told me to change my diet and I did
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within 7 days. I went raw vegan cold, turkey,
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from eating, you know, a whole chicken and I can eat.
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I could put down some some holy bird went, you know, and so I
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went from, you know, it took me seven days to adjust to what the
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doctor told me. And then I just went cold turkey
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as a raw vegan and along my journey and I lost a lot of
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weight. It changed my outlook on, on
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life, eating healthy, became a lifestyle, and not something I
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did. And as a result of the foods
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that I was now, putting into my body, it raised my vibration and
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my awareness, a lot. You know, it I saw things in a
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different way and I still do even though I know I had
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something to eat that. I don't normally eat early
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today. But but a ring raise my
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vibration and it as say it healed my body because I, you
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know, I don't suffer with congestive heart failure.
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I don't have that anymore at all.
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I don't have sleep apnea anymore and I don't have chronic
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fatigue. I Irish Artery damage as a
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result of it. But I have worked on that to
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where the last doctor visit that I had they couldn't find the
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Artery damage. So I'm saying that is Fanta.
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Fantastic. What would we say?
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Look at God. Hallelujah, look at God.
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That's a miracle. It's a miracle.
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And miracles do happen. And sometimes it takes you to to
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actually put it into To place, you'll have to sit and wait for
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a miracle to happen to you, you become the miracle, you become
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that, that action, and that, that step of faith, that creates
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the miracle for yourself. But well, thereby saving
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yourself, you know, and so, you know, all of us are still going
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to die, you know, nobody's going to live forever.
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But at least I have now, from that one, little granddaughter,
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who was a micro preemie and a miracle of her own being born at
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1 pound 6 ounces to now, All I have four grandchildren and one
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on the way and I've, you know, I'm still here.
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Thank God for that. And thank the ancestors.
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Well they say, faith without works is dead, right?
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And you have to have the works to work your faith and do you
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help other? I mean, our do you help other
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people on this path to get healthy?
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Tell us about your crap. Yeah, I do as a result of the
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things that I experienced with my health.
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I Started that journey of being a raw vegan.
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I'm now not raw but I would consider myself plant-based and
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I began to work in the health and wellness field working in
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health and wellness retail. Now worked and that setting for
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about 45 years and and of course, they're not.
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Then I became a certified herbalist and it has just been
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my desire because when I was in a church, you know, I was called
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not only to to carry the good news, but I was also called To
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Be A Healer and so that was some of the spiritual work I did in
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the church was what we called, Deliverance Ministry.
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What we would say here on the other side would be banishment
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spiritual malevolent, energy, Spirit ejectment exorcisms and
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healings, right? So I'm a Reiki practitioner, I'm
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a master energy worker. And I'm an herbalist.
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And so when I deal with people spiritually, I always touch on
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mind, body and spirit, you know, so if someone is asking for a
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money ritual, then I'm still going to deal with them on the
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money. I'm going to deal with them
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alone, money ritual that they want, but I'm also going to deal
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with their body. You know, what are you doing
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with your body? That's going to allow the
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abundance that you want to flow how, you know, Oh, and what are
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you doing for your mind? What are you eating?
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I mean, what are you thinking, you know, what are you watching?
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And so all those go, all of that goes into inconsistent goes in
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consideration with when someone asks for spell work.
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So it's just not just a spare. You don't just get a spell.
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Not for me, I didn't think so. I assure you they get more than
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their money's worth when they're dealing when they're working
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with you for real. So I mean it's just it's like
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when you talk about your practice and when we watch your
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videos and we see that you you live you live the life I mean
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this isn't something you do this isn't a cottage business for
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you. This being a who doest being a
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root worker being an evangelist, this is of a lifelong Mission
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and a full-time job. It's not just something you do
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for fun. Absolutely, absolutely P.
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I'm sorry. Well go ahead.
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You don't have to say you have a choice you know I hear all the
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time. God gives you a choice.
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I don't believe that necessarily.
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I didn't have a choice you know now true enough.
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I could have walked away. Yeah I do really walk away and
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not done it but the circumstances in my life made me
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choose this. Like I could not, I would refuse
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to go over those lessons again. You know, I don't want those
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lessons again so I decided to Follow what I believe was the
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path of that I was supposed to take and I read to me, I
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literally didn't have any choice in the matter.
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This is who I am. And what I, what I do.
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And to be honest, I believe I was told, you know, through a
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reading, but I've had visions and dreams about it that I've
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been a Medicine Woman, probably for about eight lifetimes.
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This is all I've ever done, is being a spiritualist and a
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Medicine Woman, a root worker. And so Ryan.
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I can't imagine doing anything else.
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I couldn't imagine you doing anything else.
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And I so that now that we're there, I would love to go down
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the conversation of who do. So could you please, I'm sure a
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lot of people are going to hear this podcast that don't know you
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on Tick Tock and they might have heard of the word who do and I
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would just love for you to Define who do And your practice
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and really what it is. Okay, let me first say being
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that I'm in North Carolina in the southern part of the United
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States Eastern, southern part of the United States who do is a,
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I'll say a diasporic African and Indigenous American practice of
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spirituality, there are various cultures that are Are mingled
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into the practice of who do H 0 0, D 0 0.
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But overall it is very it is based in people of color in a
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practice that of the oppressed, right?
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And so who do is not a religion who do is a spiritual practice,
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it is a way of For the depor, the oppressed to kind of even
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the playing field of the oppression to be able to deal
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with hard times. And so many people nowadays like
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to do a lot of the Spells and do a lot of The Conjuring without
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knowing the history and understanding how it came about.
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Out again who do does not have any deities that we pray to any
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deities that you see people utilizing and who do has been
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brought in by that personal practitioner will use answer,
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right? You guys say that?
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Yeah I was going to say that you know, it's interesting that it's
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really the people who practice who do work In Christians,
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right? So the Bible played an important
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role in the prodigious that absolutely, it played an
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important role in the practice. However, the practice in and of
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itself does not have deities, which means that you can
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practice, who do and not be of any religious affiliation, or
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you can practice hoodoo and be a non-Christian, but the spiritual
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spirituality that That is used for who do would be a Christian
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base again. You don't have to believe in
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Jesus and you don't have to believe in God to practice who
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do here is, why, who do I use as an umbrella term, or, or the
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overall. Like, if you think of
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Christianity, right? Christianity can be Catholic,
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you can be Protestant, you can be you.
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Lutheran, you can be Pentecostal.
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You can be just quite, you know, any of those denominations,
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right? So the umbrella is who do and
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under, who do you'll find root work and then you'll have
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conjuration or Conjuring, right? So you use the term, many people
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use the term root work and who do as some synonymous terms and
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they kind of are, but if you just want to look at it, just
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just plainly root work. Is the practice of Of healing
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with roots and herbs and, and things like that.
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Alright, so it's a medicine work.
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So you can be a hoodoo practitioner and never do
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Conjuring and spells. Your whole premise would be
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healing people by using herbs roots and berries as a herbalism
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right now. See I now here's the thing.
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Mama, you know, I really don't know a lot about it so I'm
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probably going to ask some of those stupid questions that
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people do. No are going to ask so stupid
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questions, they're not stupid at all, you know, so basically what
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you're saying is that, who do as a term can be used as an
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umbrella to express the idea for a lot of different practitioners
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with individualistic ideas and concepts of God, to practice to
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practice, who do. But I just want to clarify that
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route work is about ins and working with herbs and working
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with roots. And now I'm going to ask you a
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question who do and root work are both black American African
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American traditions, right? So white people would not be
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root. Well, I do.
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Now, this is The Gospel According to Sofia.
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Okay. So I would say that the practice
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of Route, well, not real work but a Conjuring.
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Yeah, the practice of voodoo is really a practice that should be
29:20
done by those people whose ancestors dealt with the
29:25
repression of that day of this time that time.
29:28
So you're born really born into root work.
29:31
And let me also say who do. Let me also say that many people
29:36
and in our families and in my family we didn't call it who do
29:41
or anything. It just was the way a life so
29:45
you wouldn't go to the hospital. How to say oh I see you agree
29:47
work. Oh, I see you practice.
29:48
Who do we didn't ever talk about it?
29:51
We just know you went over to Big Mama's house and you got
29:54
something wrong with your foot Big.
29:55
Mama, go outside. Get something out, the backyard,
29:59
come back in. Chew it up in her mouth.
30:00
Spit on it, and they put it on your foot, route work, right?
30:06
Okay, so you go to, you know, something happened to Big Mama's
30:09
great grandbaby and big momma. Go back in the back room and she
30:15
pulled out her Bible, and then she reads recites the scripture
30:20
and they she go to her. Kitchen, and she get some herbs
30:23
and then she sings over those herbs and that she prays and ask
30:27
the Lord or who. However, she's praying to, to
30:32
fix the situation then that becomes conjuration.
30:36
You see I'm saying you still using the roots but the whole
30:39
premise is to change a situation, whatever that
30:43
situation is right. Okay, right?
30:49
And and I think that's a crucial key as what I'm trying to point
30:53
out and get the point across to people is that these practices
30:58
are based in your ancestry and they're based on an ethnicity
31:05
and a tradition of practices that come down through a people.
31:09
Yeah, their culture. This is a cultural heritage and
31:12
it is not. Okay.
31:14
And I'm saying this, I'm not trying.
31:16
To get you to say this, I'm going to say it.
31:17
It is not okay for people to feel that they can colonize the
31:23
spiritual world and start doing practices that are outside of
31:29
their ancestry. Like, people shouldn't be trying
31:31
to conjure the Dead who are not in their own ancestors.
31:35
Yeah, I agree with that and the only reason why if you're
31:39
Conjuring, the dad is this that you were late.
31:41
And I understand people are led to do a particular work.
31:44
You know, he's kind of hard to create.
31:46
Line of demarcation between what's, you know, what you
31:49
believe is spiritual or what you were led to do.
31:51
And what you believe you supposed to do within your own
31:53
self, like I feel like this is right, you could be wrong.
31:56
It just could be you, right? But when we, we do a lot of
32:02
Brave yard work because we work with spirits of the data.
32:05
Not. And I'm told there are other
32:07
diasporic religions and practices that work with the
32:10
dead too. And there are other folk magic,
32:13
you know, folk practitioners, From other places even European
32:17
places that work with the dead as well, you know, but in the
32:23
way it's done, is what makes it a cultural, you know, said,
32:29
because everybody's got ancestor, you know, right?
32:33
And so you have your direct ancestors.
32:36
Ancestors, you have your higher ancestors, like maybe and people
32:40
who have died, who are part of the community.
32:42
You let me so many Martin Luther King jr.
32:45
And, you know, Malcolm X. Those are elevated ancestors.
32:48
You have your direct bloodline lineage like your mom, your
32:52
grandma, your mother your great-grandfather.
32:54
Got you direct bloodline lineage and then you have your bloodline
32:57
your bloodline Uncle Bobo, cousin, Leroy, you know, sister,
33:01
Sue Mi, whatever, you know. So there's a lot of people and
33:06
then, you know, with me, I go to the graveyard a lot.
33:09
I don't know. Those people in their yard, You
33:12
know, at in the graveyard that I go to, and I don't know them, I
33:15
know that the graveyard that I like to visit that people see me
33:19
visit on Tick-Tock a lot that the graveyard was for, for this
33:24
church. That's in a local church.
33:27
Many of the African American members of were buried there and
33:31
that almost forgotten graveyard there.
33:36
And so, I go and I sit and I commune with the, with their
33:40
energies that are there As we know after 18:8, you know, from
33:44
1892 until today, I don't think anybody's bone sitting in there
33:52
in that respect, you know what the energy we talked about the
33:55
energy of it all and the vibration and there are places
34:00
that have more Texas and portals and openings.
34:04
And so a graveyard is one of those places is a great
34:07
concentration of energy. And so You know, I have a thing
34:13
about people buying graveyard dirt, and written graveyard
34:17
dirt, and using it in their spiritual practice.
34:20
And, and it's not part of, it's not in, and of itself is just
34:25
not part of their cultural practice.
34:28
Not what you do. You know, it's not culturally
34:30
what you do. So I know, I don't think people
34:34
who are not part of the culture, should really be practicing
34:38
Voodoo. There are a whole lot of other
34:40
things that they can practice with.
34:41
In their own ethnicity and culture, you know.
34:47
Yeah. Actually, there were Germans
34:52
that were German, German and Irish people that came over to
34:56
the new world who got pushed down into Pennsylvania, because
34:59
in New England, the people were very there.
35:04
Puritans New England was very puritanical and a lot of these
35:08
people that came over from Germany and from Ireland, many
35:11
different Christian backgrounds, they were Christian to And
35:18
basically, there are, there are traditions of Catholic folk
35:21
magic and other Protestant folk magic Traditions that were
35:24
brought over here by Germans and Irish people that that if
35:28
anybody who has a European or a Western European Heritage can
35:32
just look right to the Appalachian Mountains and
35:35
Appalachia for these Conger Traditions that were practiced
35:38
by these immigrants of Ireland, and immigrants of German.
35:42
So that's why I never understand why someone.
35:46
Has to be so adamant. They have to be so adamant.
35:50
Do I have the right to be able to do something?
35:54
Especially in. This is my favorite one because
35:57
as long as you do it, respectfully.
35:59
Girl, if I heard, if I had a nickel for every time I heard
36:04
someone say, well, as long as you do something respectfully,
36:08
you can do whatever you want. And it's like, whoa, back up
36:14
with that level of entitlement. You know that but that's like
36:17
saying you know you invite me over to your house and I'm
36:21
really nice and I really appreciate it but you know what,
36:24
I'd like your I like your your wallet, it's sitting right there
36:29
and I just said, you know, I like your wallet and I'm going
36:32
to treat your wallet very good and you know, just let me have
36:35
it. I'm just going to take it you
36:37
know, no harm no foul and walk out with it.
36:40
How would you feel about that? Exactly.
36:47
And I mean, I have I have Heritage that comes from the
36:50
Caribbean and everybody who follows me on Tick Tock nose and
36:53
I'm really into the spiritism that comes out of Puerto Rico,
36:57
which is where my, my family comes from and it's the same
37:02
thing. Like we have something called
37:04
simi's, they were the They were the items, the that the Taino
37:10
Indians saw as to be sacred objects or things that housed
37:16
the ancestors. It was a form of ancestral
37:18
veneration. And if I saw somebody, you know,
37:22
who you know, has no idea what they're doing, putting Sydney's
37:27
on their altar, trying to work with these indigenous Spirits
37:32
from the Caribbean, not even knowing anything about them and
37:35
being completely removed from the culture.
37:37
I'd be pissed. I'm not gonna lie, I would I
37:39
would be uncomfortable to see someone else doing these things
37:44
and I will say Ryan that because people are so ethnically diverse
37:51
diverse there that it is sometimes hard to pinpoint, you
37:57
know. So here's why I say this.
38:00
So I am 87 is 89 percent, African West.
38:07
Can specifically Congolese and Nigeria.
38:12
Okay. And you know, all of the other
38:17
countries, there, that's a few other ones.
38:19
I'm also 11 percent, European Scandinavian and finish.
38:28
So and then the 2% I am South Asian which would be I think
38:38
maybe Hindu you know, something like that.
38:41
So now technically that's what they say but I know that it I'm
38:47
Native American I got to do have Native Americans, we found the
38:49
information on the training room, father's family,
38:52
historians documented. But anyway with that being said,
38:58
I I could within my own ethnic background, genetic makeup.
39:03
If I wanted to, I could participate in something that
39:08
belonged what people would say would be traditionally European
39:12
because there is 11% of me that is European.
39:17
However, the the dominant part of me is not And so as a result
39:24
of that, what I did was a divination or what I had done
39:28
was a divination to find out what and where I'm supposed to
39:32
be placed and what I'm supposed to practice hits, I'm a good
39:38
worker hoodoo practitioner. I could have done African
39:42
traditional religion but that's not what I was called to.
39:46
I am called to this this particular practice and so I
39:51
would say To people who are trying, you know, trying to
39:54
figure out what they fit, where they fit, or if they want to do,
39:56
who do and they're not a part of the culture, find out where you
40:00
are, not just feeling title. Well, you know what, nobody can,
40:04
you know, Corner, the market on spirit.
40:06
And spirit told me I can do this.
40:09
No, you liked it. You saw what it was.
40:11
It was being done. You like the way it look and now
40:14
you identify with it. Do a divination.
40:20
Right, and so right there with you, in the Traditions like
40:27
Voodoo Haitian, Voodoo Santeria Palo mayombe, and a lot of other
40:34
Traditions, most Traditions that come out of the Caribbean.
40:38
In order to get started on that path, you have to go to a
40:41
babalao, are you have to go to a mambo or someone who was a
40:45
priest or Priestess in these traditions and get a reading to
40:49
find out whether Not those Spirits have, yeah, even invited
40:53
you to come and be a part. And so traditionally, the first
40:59
place to start is to get a reading from someone who is
41:01
actually in the tradition who practices, who can tell you
41:06
whether or not there's a place for you in the religion.
41:10
And and that's pretty much a lot of the Traditions that come out
41:15
of the Caribbean, our initiation base.
41:17
So they're not closed after their ethnically.
41:21
Many different kinds of people can get initiated if they feel
41:24
like the spirit has called them, and if the priest and the
41:27
tradition have said, yes, this is something for you.
41:31
But once again it's about taking the proper steps to know whether
41:36
or not you know the right because it's a license.
41:41
It's a license that you receive you know, when you when you get
41:44
initiated or when you grow up in these Traditions.
41:47
Now let me give you We give you an example of that today in
41:55
Christianity. You know, I was ordained
41:58
ordained minister in Christianity.
42:00
Before you became an ordained minister.
42:02
You had to go through ministers training, Seminary, theater,
42:06
Theological, Seminary or something, right before you
42:09
could to get you where you can get your call and say that you
42:12
are a minister, you have to go through the process of
42:15
initiation right now. There are many people who Who
42:21
don't do that and they feel as though they're called, right?
42:24
And they teach the gospel, right?
42:26
They just teach it. Those are the ones.
42:29
You wind up. Finding that they are
42:32
misinterpreting scripture. Because they don't have any
42:36
education on it. You see them saying.
42:41
So before there's a saying that we used to say in church, some
42:44
are called the Bible. Talk about you, I'll call some
42:47
are called but few are chosen. We used to say some are called
42:51
some are sent, and some just went.
42:54
And so, you know, I'm still so. So the we're talking about the
42:59
just went people. So the people who are
43:01
practicing, who do, who just feel as though, you know, I you
43:04
can't tell me if I can't do a Honey Jar.
43:07
You can tell me, Allah Allah whatever they going to say.
43:09
Right? You can you don't you can't tell
43:11
Spirit what to do know that chose the oh whatever they say,
43:15
right? You are one of those who just
43:17
went because I can't or I'm about to go down that road.
43:24
Go down that road girl cuz that's why I let me tell you
43:27
something, right? I had a had a person who who
43:31
wanted to to learn Hootie and and she wanted to learn who do
43:38
she felt that she was called to do?
43:39
Who do, and she did all her little magickal workings and had
43:42
her little jars, and we'll crystals.
43:45
And she just had her little cards, and it was so cute.
43:48
I've sent what about to cuss. I sent her out to the graveyard.
43:54
To go and stand out in a graveyard.
43:56
You know, we go at night, you go to the graveyard and I'm gonna
43:59
need you to stand right there in the graveyard and then be led to
44:03
which grave that you going to use because you need to go ahead
44:05
and get some dirt and I all the things I told her do the first
44:08
thing she said well I don't think I should go to the
44:11
graveyard at night girl you say I got off, I'll sit in the car.
44:15
We wait for not take a you know what have we need to take a bad,
44:18
a gun or whatever you feel like somebody's gonna jump out the
44:20
bushes but IMA need you to go. She couldn't do it.
44:24
This is part of the practice. This is, this is part of what
44:29
you do. And so, you know, as long as
44:32
there's love and light and logs this cute little jars.
44:36
They're okay. But when you tell someone to go
44:39
down there and get that chicken down the road and I'm gonna need
44:42
you to cut the chickens throat and put the blood on the thing.
44:44
Then they're like, oh my God, I can't do that.
44:50
Do you think I'm saying, I absolutely know 100% what you're
44:57
saying. So yeah, not I I know that who
45:00
do does not have an initiation process and and I don't think it
45:05
should, but daggumit, before you become a hoodoo practitioner
45:09
some you need to set up under somebody and learn how to do it.
45:14
You know, it's because it's you could really hurt somebody and
45:18
you can hurt yourself. Yeah, yeah, I'ma tell you
45:23
something funny. I know, I didn't mean to cut you
45:24
off and tell you something fun, you know, had a student.
45:28
Well, she was kind of my student with one of my daughters
45:31
friends, and she watched me on Facebook, and you watching on
45:34
YouTube and she calls me, my mom, or this guy is bothering
45:37
me. And he's done all these things
45:38
and I'm going to do a jar. I'm sorry.
45:41
I'm kind, you know how to do them.
45:42
Yeah, I know how to do. Okay, so she did her jar and she
45:47
put all his belongings, whatever she wants to put in the jar.
45:50
What? So I don't know, maybe a couple
45:54
of days later might even been a week later.
45:56
She calls me in a panic. Mama mama mama something's going
45:58
on. She says I think my jar is
46:00
really working. She says but it looks weird and
46:03
I say well what did you do? She said well I put his things
46:06
in there and I put some herbs in there.
46:08
What? Bla la la I put some Clorox in
46:10
there and she said and I put some pee in there.
46:15
I peed in it and I was shaking three day.
46:18
I said you did what she said. I peed in It.
46:22
And I said, what did your jar and look like she says, well as
46:25
smoking I said, it's the top bubbled up.
46:29
She says, yes, and your jar is about to explode.
46:30
You got to have pee everywhere about to have a piss bomb.
46:33
She's leaving you me because she puts crying
47:01
It makes a volatile mixture and you bout to blow up stuff well
47:06
at least explode the jar. Wow.
47:13
Is this a quick but that shit under his cars?
47:18
Gonna blow something up, you better take a quick clip
47:21
somewhere. It's going to blow up on the
47:22
motherfucker, Okay, bomb. Are you kidding me?
47:27
It's so you know and that's the thing that most people don't
47:31
understand that. The truth is this is chemistry.
47:36
That's why I'm big on science. You know, there's a meaning
47:41
behind certain herbs that you use, and if you don't have the
47:44
training, you're going to mix things together.
47:46
That's can not only harm you, it could harm somebody.
47:48
You give it to Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
47:54
We're talking about real substances that do real things.
47:57
When I'm telling people, I tell them, I say, look, if you're
48:02
going to use an herb, you need to know how it works medicinally
48:06
as well as magically. Like, if you're going to use an
48:09
urban magic, you need to know what that thing does, you know,
48:13
period? And there's so many people.
48:14
I see practicing, I'd say in quotations, magical herbalism,
48:19
that don't know. Absolutely, Anything about the
48:21
actual medicinal uses of the plants.
48:24
And so I'm a real big stickler for that.
48:27
But when you were telling me about that, girl, who just
48:29
couldn't go to the cemetery, it makes me, it makes me say, you
48:33
know what? Her spirits would not let her,
48:37
That's that's that's what I would say for my tradition.
48:39
I would say her spirits wouldn't let her.
48:42
They just would not let her do it because, you know, they know.
48:47
Yeah, they knew she didn't know. Yeah, but it could have been any
48:50
of those fail. I mean, she did shit.
48:53
It just could have been. She was scared as hell.
48:54
I mean, but it could be just what you said, Ryan her spirits
48:57
wouldn't let her, and that's why she was afraid, you know?
49:01
So it manifests, however, I Spirits manifest.
49:04
I mean, our Spirits manifest differently in each, Person.
49:07
So you're absolutely, you can be absolutely correct about that
49:10
and but people are not aware, they just want the cute stuff.
49:16
You know. They just want the part that
49:18
looks so nice. You know, if Sephora can sell
49:21
Sage, then I know we're in trouble.
49:26
You know what I'm saying? If they can sell white things, I
49:28
know we're in trouble and we're talking about beauty products.
49:31
If you decide to go to the dollar store in the we have a
49:34
Five Below store, Five Below store, they sell smudge sticks.
49:40
And I'm looking at this, like, are you serious?
49:45
The dollar store sells smudged. It's, you know, that everywhere.
49:51
Oh, I see a mineral and I don't even want to get on the tangent
49:53
about using what, you know, who should use, why Sage or not.
49:56
We, I'm not even going to get on that.
49:58
I'm just going to say, as an herbalist.
50:00
It has various medicinal qualities and of those medicinal
50:03
qualities, that it has the therapeutic value of it.
50:07
It is an antiviral antifungal antimicrobial, Microbial.
50:11
And it's another one viral fungal bacterial.
50:16
So if it's going to heal or prohibit the growing of bacteria
50:22
that prohibit the growing of fungus is going to clear cleanse
50:26
and all this other kind of stuff, you need to know how to
50:28
use it. You just don't burn it.
50:31
I just you know, I just got out I just got a baronet cut the
50:33
stuff, uh, good now. Okay, Karen, okay, little Karen,
50:43
which Taryn witchcraft, that's what we call you know people do
50:46
it all over couldn't you know Rishi Kapoor where she could do
50:49
it too. You know I'm saying?
50:52
I just know I just like to say and I'm telling people you know,
50:56
if you're going to cleanse someone, why are you saying?
51:00
Everybody. Why you smudging everybody with
51:02
sage? You can smudge with other things
51:05
and these are the things that people do not study, don't take
51:08
the time to study. They like what's trending And
51:12
so, right? So your spiritual practice, you
51:15
know, you being at what you call it experience, what you call it,
51:19
what it is. A series of tea, set of spirit
51:23
at what you practice, that should not be trending.
51:28
You know, the practices that you do with getting your spiritual
51:32
experience, you should not be trendy and people should not be
51:35
jumping on the bandwagon. Oh, that's not really like that.
51:38
So I'm going to do that. No, absolutely not.
51:43
So that's my own soap box. I'ma leave that alone.
51:45
Yeah, they're all know I've had so boxes is great.
51:51
I got my own soap box over here. I jump on it all the time and
51:56
it's true. I mean I and it's tick tock is
52:01
miraculously fast at manifesting and also getting rid of Trends
52:06
very quick. Like, I can't even tell you how
52:08
many magical Trends I've seen pop up in the I don't know. 90
52:13
Days that I've been on Tick-Tock it was it was a honey cross on
52:18
the tongue. Then it was some making putting
52:22
razor blades in jars. And I mean, I and I saw the
52:25
girl, I like the girl that did the razor blades in the jars and
52:27
all of that. But the thing that I'm saying is
52:30
I've what I'm saying, is that things come so fast and they go
52:33
so fast on Tick-Tock and they Trend.
52:37
And then, what, what grills me is that will people will come to
52:40
me and they'll say, you know, No mama mama Sunfire said to do
52:46
this blah blah blah our which foot told me to do this glob La,
52:49
what do you think? And it's like, you know, don't
52:51
ask me you know, don't ask me what I think of other
52:54
practitioners practices. Because yeah, I you know it's
52:59
not my business. What other practitioners do?
53:02
It's not. I agree with you, 100%.
53:08
And it's those people who are coming around, like, they're
53:10
constantly asking for permission.
53:12
It's like, can I do this? Can I do that?
53:14
Can I do this, is it okay? If I do this, is it okay, if I
53:17
do that and I that's just one thing that is tired for me,
53:21
really tired is to asking for permission to do things.
53:27
But you know what? At the same time there are is a
53:29
lot of kids, there's a lot of kids on tick tock, And this is
53:37
one of the only Outlets that they have in order to learn
53:39
about this stuff. I mean, it's amazing to me that
53:41
any parent I love all my baby which is out there, but it's
53:46
amazing to me that any parent is going to hand, you know, a
53:50
child. And I say, child like 10, 13, 11
53:53
years old, 12 years old, 14, whatever phone and allow them to
53:57
download tick-tocking get on and just leave them completely
54:00
unsupervised on the app because there's a lot of stuff, there's
54:05
a lot of stuff with They're like a bad stuff on there, you know.
54:10
But if this is the only way that the little witches are able to
54:15
learn something. Then the people who are actually
54:18
adults have to act responsible and that's the problem.
54:23
I don't see adults in there, I'd say 30s, 40s, 50s, even older
54:28
than that. Acting very responsible.
54:31
As far as putting out information is concerned and let
54:35
me show you how much I agree with that.
54:36
When I first started I was, you know, putting videos videos out
54:42
and I would show you know, how to do spells and things like
54:46
that and I would always know. I always try to do a disclaimer
54:49
and then I started thinking I did will not too terribly long
54:52
ago to start thinking. You know, what really I don't
54:55
want anybody doing this. I don't want anybody doing this.
54:57
If you don't understand, understand It.
55:01
So, I stopped putting ingredients, you know, I stopped
55:05
eating so much information on it just show you certain things but
55:09
not everything and not all things, you know?
55:12
And and and then I get I've gotten quite a few young.
55:17
People wanting to wanting me to help them.
55:21
And I have one young lady. I think she was like 16.
55:25
And the answer was absolutely not.
55:29
Not let you get your parents. A permit.
55:31
I get your parents permission and I don't know how you're
55:33
going to do that. I'm not getting ready to get.
55:35
Tell you what to do. I'm not doing it.
55:37
And only reason I say that because I really wouldn't want
55:39
the child to go and get it from anywhere else, you know, a non
55:44
reputable place. However, there's there, there
55:48
has to be a line where you give information to children.
55:53
I mean, I don't feel comfortable giving information to anybody's
55:56
child really, you know? So, It's kind of yeah, I'm not
56:03
sure where to place that but we definitely have to be aware and
56:09
concerned and careful about what kind of information we put out.
56:14
This is true. So I do fall into that trap and
56:17
I'm going to moving forward. I think I'm gonna do a little
56:21
bit better, be a little bit more conscientious and diligent about
56:25
not arming people with information or not giving them
56:29
enough information. For them to make it correct,
56:32
it's not getting them information.
56:33
It's just it's too risky, you know.
56:40
I 100% agree with you because when I first got on The Tick
56:44
Tock app, I kind of had that same perception.
56:47
Oh this is going to be really nice.
56:48
I'm going to be able to show people how to cast spells.
56:50
I'm going to be able to show people how to do this and do
56:53
that with these ingredients and this and that and then I also
56:56
realized really fast, wait a minute this is not the kind of
56:59
information that You know, I really want to be putting out
57:03
there because for one thing, it's your secrets, it's your
57:07
Mysteries. It's your secrets that you
57:09
working with your spirits in your spirits guide.
57:11
You, you know, why would you put that out there for everyone in
57:16
the world to see one and then number two, right?
57:20
The any information you put online is going to be used to
57:24
weaponize somebody in order to act.
57:28
So I get it. I think the biggest problem is
57:31
that At the kids are going to be there regardless of whether you
57:33
want them to or not. It is hot.
57:35
It's hard to, you know, it's a fine line and in some time and I
57:41
just don't know where it is on which side of the line to stand.
57:45
So, you know, just each day, it's something different.
57:51
And so today I may say no, you know, I absolutely not going to
57:55
do it and then somewhere, you know, in a day or two, I feel
57:58
like, you know, I feel really okay with that somewhere.
58:04
And you know, what's that smell right?
58:06
Going back to what you asked me before about the pros and cons
58:10
of tick. Tock, one of the cons is that
58:14
people are so and I said this, that are so mean sometimes that
58:21
that anything that you do or say they like to pit one person
58:27
against the other because some people just so hungry for drama.
58:31
And problems and I am purposing in my heart to be not part of
58:37
the drama. You know, are you?
58:39
Sometimes you get attacked, you know, and add of Being Human at
58:43
a of your Humanity, you know, you want to respond and you say
58:47
what you have to say or you defend yourself or whatever.
58:51
But moving forward, I just I'm feeling I feel like if someone
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gives misinformation I'ma do my best to share the information
58:59
that I know about it. And we don't have to argue, I
59:03
don't have to cuss you out if you don't make me and then you
59:06
don't have to custom. Yeah, I don't want to, I don't
59:09
want to make you, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to
59:12
create that energy. And that is definitely, you
59:14
know, bad energy. And sometimes people just sit at
59:18
Ryan. Sometimes people just sit around
59:21
looking and waiting for something to pop off so that
59:26
they can leech off of that energy and create more drama.
59:30
And really At my age. I'm 55 years old.
59:33
I ain't I got time for it. I'm you know I'm playing my
59:38
grandbaby, you know. Well, I just hit 40 that looks
59:49
like that. Looks like maybe sometimes my
59:57
spirits like to fight. Yeah, not gonna let it sometimes
59:59
they like, absolutely. I do too.
1:00:01
I used to, when I was young Ryan, I used to, you know, I
1:00:04
used to be a fighter. I used to fight, you know, for
1:00:07
real like fight boys fight girls.
1:00:09
I mean, I had those hands and one time, you know, so, so
1:00:14
fighting is not in far far from Sorry, but I have to remember,
1:00:19
you know. Okay, so let's not, you know,
1:00:22
let's not So what I'm going to do is because I was going to
1:00:32
keep okay my interviews to about an hour and we are on an hour
1:00:37
but I guess I want to end on a light note.
1:00:39
So I would just want to kind of rapidly.
1:00:41
Ask you some questions and you can just answer them.
1:00:46
Well, I have a couple. What's your favorite color?
1:00:47
So warm colors are my favorite, red, orange or yellow.
1:00:55
Okay, what's your favorite dessert?
1:01:02
My favorite is sweet, potato pie.
1:01:07
Oh, you're kidding me. I love me cuz I love sweet.
1:01:11
Potato pie. So what would be like, soul food
1:01:18
for you? Something that you love to eat?
1:01:20
It's like your comfort food. Your meal is the meal that you
1:01:23
need when you need? So refreshing, leave or not?
1:01:26
You might comfort food. If it's cooked, will be like
1:01:30
cabbage, collard greens beans and maybe some cornbread.
1:01:34
Not me anymore would be. Yeah, something like that.
1:01:42
And I do like, however, I do like chocolate.
1:01:47
Sometimes chocolate comes up, and I have to have me a piece of
1:01:51
chocolate, but not a fun. I do drink generally, I drink
1:01:58
coffee when I'm out so but I don't drink it at home anymore.
1:02:03
So I drink tea. So what is the color?
1:02:11
Purple favorite movies of all time?
1:02:16
Harlem Nights. Because there's another one and
1:02:20
I know To Sir with Love with Sidney Poitier.
1:02:25
Yeah, those are my all-time favorite.
1:02:29
Yeah, that's great. This is what kind of music you
1:02:35
like? But my on the top of my list, I
1:02:40
like Funk. So I love old bands, funk music,
1:02:45
Parliament-Funkadelic the average, right?
1:02:50
I like it out. I like Punk.
1:02:53
And then, you know, I like old R&B, the old rhythm and blues
1:02:59
from the from, from back in the 70s and 60s and 70s.
1:03:03
I like that. Yeah.
1:03:06
Old old old school, that's great.
1:03:10
Yeah, that is so great. What are you?
1:03:16
What are you currently reading? Like do you have a book Look, do
1:03:19
you have like a? I'm sure like you have tons of
1:03:21
books that you always want to read all the time.
1:03:23
But you know what what do you have?
1:03:25
Don't have anything open right now.
1:03:27
I've read all the books and it's so funny because I can't right
1:03:31
now I'm having a brain fart and I can't think of one title.
1:03:38
Okay well I tell you what I'll tell you my favorite one.
1:03:46
My favorite book was The Alchemist.
1:03:48
Okay. Okay.
1:03:50
But was that Paolo sale? Whatever.
1:03:54
I don't know how the Alchemist was my favorite book.
1:04:00
Okay. All right.
1:04:01
I didn't if it wasn't very good luck to very good.
1:04:09
And are you a, are you watching any particular series on Netflix
1:04:15
or anything specific? You're following on?
1:04:18
I don't really watch TV but, you know, I watched the internet but
1:04:22
the last thing I watched on Netflix was Lovecraft country.
1:04:28
I watch. Okay.
1:04:30
Yeah, I saw the car and see the rest of it.
1:04:33
I was up there. Yeah, that's the last thing I
1:04:40
saw. So if you could give like, you
1:04:47
know, a few words of advice to the people who look up to you,
1:04:52
who, you know, are just looking for some kind of some advice for
1:04:56
you from you, about how to continue on going on last night.
1:05:01
Wise, what would you say for four people on the spiritual
1:05:04
path as well as my advice for anybody.
1:05:07
Anybody on any path for any reason is research?
1:05:13
Don't believe nothing, anyone tells you you look it up for
1:05:17
yourself and then when you look it up you better.
1:05:21
Make sure that whatever you're looking up you always look up
1:05:25
the counter argument of that thing, I just did a tick tock
1:05:29
about it, please do not believe what people tell you, research
1:05:35
it for yourself, then come to your own conclusion based on the
1:05:40
evidence that you have found. Security.
1:05:48
And that's another thing that I really love about you because
1:05:50
you have respect for science, science is Magic.
1:05:54
Yeah, absolutely. Well Mama send fire.
1:06:01
Thank you so much for doing this interview.
1:06:05
Very, very exciting. I'm sure everyone's going to
1:06:08
really love this and that's really, yeah, you're a
1:06:12
fantastic. And I follow you and love
1:06:15
everything you do and I hope that everything continues to go
1:06:21
along. Just find and Tick-Tock and
1:06:24
you're in that, it's very applicable.
1:06:29
Peace. All right.
1:06:32
Bye-bye. Well everybody that was our
1:06:54
interview. I hope you enjoyed it.
1:06:57
I hope you subscribe to this podcast, if you're on Tick Tock
1:07:02
you can actually go to my website which is brujo Ryan.com.
1:07:06
And you'll find my linked read all my social platforms.
1:07:10
So, next time, we are going to be interviewing the one and only
1:07:18
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1:07:22
you can find out when that interview hits the streets.
1:07:26
Peace out y'all