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Episode One Hundred Ninety Three: The Interview Ruhles · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and ninety three of
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Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host on today's show. Kamala finally sets her
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Speaker 1: first national one on one interview, and it's.
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Speaker 2: Hard to believe who it is.
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Speaker 1: With Nebraska whims out on their proposed electoral college change,
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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi admonishes CNN brasking questions again, the CDC director
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Speaker 1: at the start of COVID endorses Trump, and will Brett
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Speaker 1: Farv now become the new symbol for the liberal attempt
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Speaker 1: to end tackle football. We have a lot to get
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Speaker 1: to on this episode number one hundred and ninety three
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Speaker 1: of the Death of Journalism podcast. We begin with late
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Speaker 1: breaking news as I taped this episode on Wednesday morning.
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has agreed to her first national one on
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Speaker 1: one sit down interview since being installed as the Democratic
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Speaker 1: presidential nominee. This would be newsworthy under any circumstances, although
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Speaker 1: considering the fact that we're now quite a while since
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Speaker 1: the point where she was installed as the nominee, that
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Speaker 1: would make it newsworthy. It's unbelievable that this is We're
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Speaker 1: into the end of September now almost in October, and
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Speaker 1: this is the first time that she's agreed to do
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Speaker 1: a national one on one sit down interview. But that's
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Speaker 1: not the reason why I'm opening the podcast with it. It's
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Speaker 1: because of who she's doing the interview with. It's MSNBC's
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Speaker 1: Stephanie Rule. Now that might not mean anything to you
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Speaker 1: unless you are a very avid listener to this podcast,
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Speaker 1: and if you are not, why are you not? And
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Speaker 1: of course you also have to have a good memory,
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Speaker 1: although not that good a memory, because it was just
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Speaker 1: in the last episode of the podcast where we talked
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Speaker 1: about Stephanie Rule's appearance on Bill Maher's HBO Real Time Show,
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Speaker 1: where she made a very very clear argument that Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris should not be answering questions, that there's no need
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Speaker 1: for her to be answering questions because she's running against
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and that therefore, why bother, why give anybody
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Speaker 1: a reason not to vote for you? When I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, when for all intents and purposes, you have
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Speaker 1: somebody on the other side that any in her world
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Speaker 1: rational person is never going to vote for. And I
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Speaker 1: you know, made the point, and it may have sounded
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Speaker 1: like I was somehow defending Rule.
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Speaker 2: I didn't intend to do that. I was just saying
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Speaker 2: that in.
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Speaker 1: Rule's world, she was correct from a strategic standpoint. If
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Speaker 1: she was giving strategic advice to Harris, she wasn't wrong,
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Speaker 1: because Harris, all she needs to do with a huge
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Speaker 1: portion of the population is not offend them, not scare them.
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Speaker 1: And because Trump is the opponent, they will vote for
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Speaker 1: her because he's not a viable alternative. Now, this was,
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Speaker 1: you know, in my opinion, inappropriate, although in this day
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Speaker 1: and age that we now live in, it's hardly unusual
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Speaker 1: for an MSNBC host to effectively giving to be giving
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Speaker 1: strategic advice to the Democratic presidential nominee on HBO. I mean, okay,
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Speaker 1: she's an opinion person as well as a newsperson. Fine,
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Speaker 1: those are the new rules. But for her to now
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Speaker 1: be named as the person that Harris is going to
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Speaker 1: do her first one on one interview with, it's literally
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Speaker 1: beyond parody. You cannot make this up. This is effectively infected.
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Speaker 1: I think it's actually worse. This is effectively like Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump only doing one interview since becoming the Republican presidential nominee,
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Speaker 1: and that interview is with Sean Hannity. Now, Trump, for
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Speaker 1: all of his weaknesses, has done a ton of interviews.
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Speaker 1: He has gone to the Black Journalists Association, you know,
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Speaker 1: the lions Den, which was a highly partisan event. He's
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Speaker 1: done two debates with adversarial media CNN and ABC, which obviously, well,
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Speaker 1: they didn't formally rig the debate against him, as some
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Speaker 1: on the right have tried to claim, including Trump, they
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Speaker 1: were clearly biased against him in that debate. So you
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Speaker 1: have to give Trump at least some credit for that.
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Speaker 1: But there's so many elements of this Rule situation that
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Speaker 1: are both outrageous as well as so indicative of the
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Speaker 1: death of journalism because the left wing media is not
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Speaker 1: going to in my opinion, in my estimation, is not
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Speaker 1: going to object to this at all. And my guess
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Speaker 1: is that the clip that we played on this podcast
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Speaker 1: from the Bill Marshow is not going to get widely
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Speaker 1: played in the ain stream news media and certainly not
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Speaker 1: in the left wing media.
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Speaker 2: And when it comes to the context.
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Speaker 1: Of how it is that Harris decided that Stephanie Rule
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Speaker 1: ought to be the person with whom she sits down
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Speaker 1: to do her first interview as the Democratic presidential nominee,
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Speaker 1: now in case you've forgotten, I want to play this
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Speaker 1: clip again because it's absolutely it was a remarkable clip
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Speaker 1: at the time, but now it's off the charts, and
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Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out that, based upon
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Speaker 1: my interpretation and my experience and my understanding the way
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Speaker 1: these things go, plus just basic interpretation of human nature,
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance that when Stephanie Rule
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Speaker 1: made these statements, you know, less than a week ago
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Speaker 1: on Bill Maher's HBO show, that she knew or even had.
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Speaker 2: A good faith belief that.
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Speaker 1: She was going to be the first person to interview
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. And that makes no sense to me because
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Speaker 1: if she knew that that was going to happen, I
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Speaker 1: don't believe that she would have made these kind of
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Speaker 1: declarative statements. This would have been a really, really stupid
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Speaker 1: thing to do if you had a believe that there
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Speaker 1: was even a remotely good chance that you were going
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Speaker 1: to be the first person to interview Harris, because you
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Speaker 1: would have to know one that theoretically could jeopardize the
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Speaker 1: interview because it would make you look like you're not objective,
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Speaker 1: and you know the fact that you're literally saying she
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Speaker 1: shouldn't answer questions.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't make this up.
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Speaker 1: You can't get a situation that is more contradictory to
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Speaker 1: the entire essence of what journalism is supposed to be about. So,
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, in my very strong opinion, rule would
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Speaker 1: never even think to articulate this on a national show
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Speaker 1: like Bill Maher's on HBO.
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Speaker 2: If she thought that she was going.
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Speaker 1: Going to be the first person to interview Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: in a national one on one interview, I could be
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Speaker 1: wrong about that if I mean, maybe she's just really reckless,
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Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't give a damn, but there's nothing about
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Speaker 1: this clip that you're about to hear that to me,
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Speaker 1: is consistent.
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Speaker 2: With the idea that she had a good idea.
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Speaker 1: And certainly didn't have knowledge that she would be interviewing
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris for the first time on the national level
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Speaker 1: in a one on one interview.
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Speaker 2: You can decide that for yourself.
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Speaker 1: But if I'm right, and I think it's pretty clear
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Speaker 1: that I am, then that leads us to the next
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Speaker 1: part of this equation, which is so it was after
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Speaker 1: this clip. It was after this appearance that Harris or
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Speaker 1: somebody within her organization decided to reach out to Stephanie
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Speaker 1: Rule and say, Aha, Okay, you're a perfect person for
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Speaker 1: us to sit down with for our first one on
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Speaker 1: one interview. I mean, as Ben Shapiro tweeted out on
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Speaker 1: this News, you know, Stephanie Ruhle says Harris shouldn't answer questions.
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Speaker 1: Kamala says, hey, would you like to interview me? That's
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Speaker 1: basically what happened here. And for the record, here is
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Speaker 1: what Rule said in a bit of a debate with
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Speaker 1: Brett Stevens, a pseudo conservative columnist from The New York Times,
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Speaker 1: on Bill Maher's HBO show about how it is that,
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Speaker 1: in her opinion, Harris does not need to answer any
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Speaker 1: real questions while running for president.
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Speaker 3: It's not too much to ask Kamala say, are you
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Speaker 3: for a Palestinian state? If Hamas is going to run
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Speaker 3: that state?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 1: Just or no?
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Speaker 4: And let's say you don't like her answer, are you
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Speaker 4: going to vote for Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 4: I'm not not running for perfect. She's running against Trump.
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Speaker 4: We have two choices, and so there are some things
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Speaker 4: you might not know her answer to. And in twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty four, unlike two thousand and six, for a lot
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Speaker 4: of the American people, we know exactly what Trump will do,
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Speaker 4: who he is, and the kind of threat he is
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Speaker 4: to democracy.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's unfeeling me, oh, the cold and
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Speaker 2: the point.
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Speaker 3: The problem that a lot of people have with Kama
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Speaker 3: is we don't know her answer to anything.
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Speaker 4: Okay, his answer to everything.
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Speaker 3: And that's why I would never vote for him, and
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Speaker 3: people should vote for him. But people also are expected
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Speaker 3: to have some idea of what the program is of
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Speaker 3: the person you're supposed to vote for. You're just not
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Speaker 3: supposed to say, well, you have to vote for why
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Speaker 3: because X is this, that and the other.
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Speaker 2: Let's find out a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's a lot to ask her
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Speaker 3: to sit down for a real interview as opposed to
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Speaker 3: a tough piece in which she describes, like her her
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Speaker 3: feelings of growing up in openland with nice laws.
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Speaker 4: Then I would just say to that, when you moved
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Speaker 4: to Nirvana, give me your real estate broker's number and
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Speaker 4: I'll be your next or.
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Speaker 2: Enable we don't live there.
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Speaker 1: If you had told me when I first saw that
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Speaker 1: that within a week that that person Stephanie Rule, would
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Speaker 1: be the first person to interview Kamala Harris is the
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Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nominee. You know, one on one interview on
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Speaker 1: a national platform, I would not have believed you. I
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Speaker 1: mean when I saw this this morning, I was truly shocked.
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Speaker 1: And it's difficult to shock me in anything in this world,
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Speaker 1: but specifically when it comes to mediam malpractice, especially in
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Speaker 1: this campaign cycle. But this literally shocked me. I mean,
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Speaker 1: really seriously. It's almost like they're trolling us.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's a troll job. I don't know
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Speaker 2: that that's the case.
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Speaker 1: I don't even really know if I believe that, but
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Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. I mean, were Montel Williams
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Speaker 1: and Willie Brown not available for the assignment.
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Speaker 2: Because those are the only two.
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Speaker 1: People I can think of, both of them who have
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Speaker 1: dated com Harris in the past, that would be more
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Speaker 1: assured of providing a softball interview for her than Stephanie
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Speaker 1: Rule will be.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Rule is on record saying.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't have to answer questions, So how in the
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Speaker 1: world could she possibly be seen as a credible interviewer
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Speaker 1: when that's the entire purpose of the fucking.
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Speaker 2: Interview is to get her to finally answer some questions.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you just cannot make this shit up. Now.
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Speaker 2: I have no expectation that.
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Speaker 1: There will be anything remotely journalistic in this interview. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll probably be some funny moments. If there are,
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Speaker 1: we'll play for the play them for you in the
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Speaker 1: next episode of the podcast. This interview will actually be
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Speaker 1: out by the time that you have the ability to
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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, but obviously I don't have any
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Speaker 1: clips from it.
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Speaker 2: It will not be aired live, of course.
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Speaker 1: Which gives MSNBC the opportunity to potentially edit it, which
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Speaker 1: is important to understand when it comes to interpreting the
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Speaker 1: context of an interview. And so there we have it.
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Speaker 1: That's the state of journalism in twenty twenty four. You campaign,
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Speaker 1: in fact, she didn't even campaign to do the interview.
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Speaker 1: She frankly campaigned for Harris not to do interviews, and
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Speaker 1: it appears, based upon my analysis, that that helped her
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Speaker 1: land the interview.
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Speaker 2: We are living in.
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Speaker 1: Such an upside down world, and this whole situation is
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Speaker 1: a perfect example of that. Now there's been a major
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Speaker 1: development with regard to the electoral College and this presidential election,
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Speaker 1: which I have been talking about for a very long time,
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Speaker 1: probably before most people ever even thought about it. We
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Speaker 1: have given an enormous amount of coverage to the whole
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Speaker 1: issue of the second Congressional district in Nebraska and whether
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Speaker 1: or not that district would go for Trump or for Harris,
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Speaker 1: and how that district could potentially fairly easey end up
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Speaker 1: determining the winner of the election. It could even toss
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Speaker 1: this into a two sixty nine and two sixty nine tie,
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Speaker 1: which would then go to the House of Representatives. And
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Speaker 1: in the last episode of the podcast, I told you
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Speaker 1: that there was an effort within the Nebraska legislature, supported
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Speaker 1: by the.
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Speaker 2: Governor, for Nebraska to change.
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Speaker 1: The way that they allocate their electoral college votes, that
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Speaker 1: they would do it the same way that everybody else
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Speaker 1: other than Maine does it, which is its winner take all. Currently,
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Speaker 1: Nebraska and Maine give two electoral college votes for the
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Speaker 1: winner of the state, plus one electoral college vote for
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Speaker 1: each congressional district. By the way, I don't think I've
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Speaker 1: ever mentioned this, but I actually think.
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Speaker 2: Every state ought to do this.
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Speaker 1: I really think we are to be going in the
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Speaker 1: other direction for so many reasons. I mean, it's not
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Speaker 1: just because California provides an enormous advantage for Democrats because
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Speaker 1: they are sure of getting all of the Electoral College
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Speaker 1: votes from California and also in New York. So that's
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Speaker 1: why that will never happen. I mean, it's been proposed before,
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Speaker 1: but no big state is going to do that because
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Speaker 1: they would give up, especially in California. They would give
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Speaker 1: up an enormous amount of leverage and power for Democrats.
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Speaker 1: But if by some miracle, you could change the system
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Speaker 1: for all the states, and you can't because no one's
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Speaker 1: going to go first.
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Speaker 2: No one's going to give up their power first.
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Speaker 1: So but if there was a magical way to do this,
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Speaker 1: that's the way to elect a president. Two votes for
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Speaker 1: winning the state, one for each congressional district. Now there's
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Speaker 1: pros and cons to this. One of the negatives would
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Speaker 1: it be it would take a lot longer to determine
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Speaker 1: who won if it was a close election. But on
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Speaker 1: the other side of that equation, it would eliminate for
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Speaker 1: all intensive purposes, statewide recounts to determine the election winner, like,
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Speaker 1: for instance, if we had done this in the two
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Speaker 1: thousand election, which came down to just a few hundred
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Speaker 1: votes in Florida and which took over a month to
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Speaker 1: decide before George Bush finally was declared the winner.
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Speaker 2: That would not have happened under my proposal.
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Speaker 1: Interestingly, the electoral college result, because I did this research
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Speaker 1: on this at the time.
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Speaker 2: The electoral college result would have.
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Speaker 1: Been exactly the same, exactly the same numbers if you
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Speaker 1: had gone.
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Speaker 2: By congressional district instead of winner take all in each state.
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Speaker 1: But if you went by congressional district, you know, the
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Speaker 1: whole country would matter.
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Speaker 2: We wouldn't just have six states.
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Speaker 1: Deciding the election, which is basically where we are right now.
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Speaker 1: You'd have the whole country mattering, and you'd have a
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Speaker 1: hell of a lot more competitive congressional districts then you
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Speaker 1: do competitive states in this very divided era. So I
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of advantages to doing it that way,
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Speaker 1: but unfortunately, politically it's possible for that to ever.
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Speaker 2: Actually happen nationwide.
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Speaker 1: But as we last talked about this, there was a
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Speaker 1: thought that Nebraska might be able to do this in
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Speaker 1: a way that was too late for Maine to counter them,
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Speaker 1: and that therefore, if Nebraska went to winner take all
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Speaker 1: and Maine was stuck with the same old formula for
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Speaker 1: how they determine where they give their electoral college votes.
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Speaker 1: That would be an advantage to Trump, that would give
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Speaker 1: him one extra electoral college vote. Now, I said in
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Speaker 1: the last episode, I didn't know whether or not this
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Speaker 1: was a move that indicated genius because they were just
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Speaker 1: waiting in the weeds until it was too late for
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Speaker 1: Maine to counter, or whether this was a last ditch
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Speaker 1: hail Mary attempt that really hadn't been thought out. And
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Speaker 1: I told you, my gut told me this wasn't gonna happen,
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Speaker 1: that this was just.
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Speaker 2: Too good to be true.
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Speaker 1: It's too late to do this, and oh, by the way,
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Speaker 1: if you do this, you're probably going to piss off Omaha,
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Speaker 1: Nebraska so much you're going to lose a Republican House
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Speaker 1: seat over this. Well, as is often the case, my
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Speaker 1: gut instinct was correct, because a Key senator announced not
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Speaker 1: long after we taped the last episode of the podcast
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Speaker 1: that he was a Republican, was not going to support
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Speaker 1: the Key vote, was not going to support changing Nebraska's
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Speaker 1: electoral college voting system, and they were going to stay
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Speaker 1: with the current system, which would appear to be likely
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Speaker 1: to give Kamala Harris one electoral college vote that she
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Speaker 1: would not ordinarily get if Nebraska went winn or take off.
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Speaker 1: So we now apparently officially know that there will be
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Speaker 1: no change and that it is very likely, not assured,
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Speaker 1: but very likely Harris will win a congressional district in Nebraska.
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Speaker 1: Trump will win a congressional district in Maine. So that's
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Speaker 1: kind of a wash. It does still have the potential
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Speaker 1: wrinkle because both districts are close enough that where if
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Speaker 1: we end up in a super tight electoral college election,
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Speaker 1: we could still be waiting on Nebraska to or in
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Speaker 1: the main congression district.
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Speaker 2: Also the second congression district in Maine. That's still a possibility.
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Speaker 1: But the most likely scenario is that this is a
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Speaker 1: wash because Trump wins a district in Maine and Harris
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Speaker 1: wins a district in Nebraska. So that issue apparently is
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Speaker 1: put to bed. There's another issue that has come up
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Speaker 1: that is not directly related to the presidential election but
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Speaker 1: could end up playing a major role in it, and
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Speaker 1: that is what's happening in North Carolina with the Republican
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Speaker 1: gubernatorial candidate and current lieutenant governor there, Mark Robinson. Now,
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Speaker 1: Mark Robinson is an interesting character. I'm not sure I've
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Speaker 1: ever talked about him on the podcast before. On the surface,
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Speaker 1: I can understand why Trump fans and Donald Trump himself
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Speaker 1: have praised the guy. He's very politically incorrect. He's a
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Speaker 1: good speaker, he's charismatic. You know, he says a lot
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Speaker 1: of things that you would like to believe are true,
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Speaker 1: but no one's you know, has the guts to say them,
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Speaker 1: and as a black man, he has the ability to
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Speaker 1: say them. So there's a lot of things about him
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Speaker 1: that on the surface you like, but there's also a
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff you don't like. He's a conspiracy theorist.
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Speaker 1: He said a lot of crazy things as well as
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Speaker 1: things that are politically incorrect. And it was always going
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Speaker 1: to be a problem because as he got more attention.
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Speaker 1: You know, as a lieutenant governor, you don't get much attention,
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Speaker 1: but when you're running for governor in a big state
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Speaker 1: like North Carolina, you're gonna get a lot more attention.
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Speaker 1: And it's a lot of negative attention, especially when the
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Speaker 1: liberal media is out to get you and they see
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Speaker 1: him as a bigger threat because he happens to be
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Speaker 1: a black man. So I get all this. I understand,
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Speaker 1: you know why there are those that are eager to
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Speaker 1: defend Mark Robinson, but he is now embroiled and yet
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Speaker 1: another controversy, this time involving apparently him posting all sorts
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Speaker 1: of bizarre messages on a pornography website. This is a
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Speaker 1: story that was broken on CNN, and it sure seems
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Speaker 1: to me as if Robinson is guilty here. He's denying it,
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Speaker 1: and he's making CNN the focus of his attacks, which
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Speaker 1: to me is right out of the I'm guilty as
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Speaker 1: hell playbook, because that's what you would do. If you're
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Speaker 1: a Republican, a conservative, and you want your base to
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Speaker 1: not believe a story, you blame the messenger, and CNN
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Speaker 1: is obviously a messenger that his base is very willing.
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Speaker 2: To believe would make this up.
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Speaker 1: But I've not seen any substance on his side to
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Speaker 1: indicate that the stories are not true. It's to me,
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Speaker 1: it feels very much like he's got to be guilty.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: The Republican governor in Georgia has withdrawn his endorsement for Robinson.
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Speaker 1: Other prominent Republicans have withdrawn their endorsement. There's pressure on
21:14
Speaker 1: Trump to withdraw his endorsement. There's no chance that Robinson
21:19
Speaker 1: is going to win the governor's race there. Now, he
21:23
Speaker 1: was always an underdog to win the governor's race there anyway.
21:27
Speaker 1: But the key question is how is this going to
21:30
Speaker 1: impact the presidential race, if at all. I don't have
21:34
Speaker 1: an answer to this, And frankly, if you've noticed in
21:38
Speaker 1: my you know, each episode, I do an electoral College
21:42
Speaker 1: update on where I see things as they currently stand today,
21:46
Speaker 1: and I'm very much on the fence regarding North Carolina.
21:50
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm uncertain about all the swing states, everybody
21:52
Speaker 1: is at this moment, but I'm probably most uncertain about
21:56
Speaker 1: North Carolina. I could make an argument that Trump will
21:58
Speaker 1: win North Carolina. I could make an argument that Trump
22:01
Speaker 1: would lose North Carolina. I can make an argument that
22:03
Speaker 1: Robinson kills him, kills Trump in North Carolina. Can make
22:07
Speaker 1: an argument it's not going to make any difference. I
22:09
Speaker 1: think I need to see more of the dust subtle
22:13
Speaker 1: and a bit more polling data there after this most
22:16
Speaker 1: recent development regarding Robinson. Now you may recall I have
22:21
Speaker 1: a little bit of a contrarian This is unusual for me.
22:24
Speaker 1: I know a contrarian theory when it comes to down
22:28
Speaker 1: ballot races when Trump is involved and I don't know
22:33
Speaker 1: whether or not I'm right about this. I frankly think
22:35
Speaker 1: that there's some evidence recently indicating that I'm right. You
22:38
Speaker 1: may recall that my theory is this that when Trump
22:43
Speaker 1: is doing well and it looks like he's going to win,
22:48
Speaker 1: that's actually bad for Republican Senate candidates in key states.
22:55
Speaker 1: But when he's not doing as well, and now, all
22:58
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there are a lot of independ voters
23:00
Speaker 1: that have to think about the idea of, Okay, are
23:02
Speaker 1: we going to have Harris with a Democratic Congress. I
23:06
Speaker 1: don't know if I think I like that idea. So
23:08
Speaker 1: maybe I'll hedge my bets and I'll vote for Marino
23:13
Speaker 1: in Ohio, or I'll vote against Tester in Bontana, the
23:18
Speaker 1: Democratic incumbent. And by the way, as the perception has
23:23
Speaker 1: increased that Harris is the favorite, guess what's happened. The
23:27
Speaker 1: Republican candidate in the Senate race in Montana.
23:30
Speaker 2: Has surged, as has the.
23:33
Speaker 1: Republican senatorial candidate in Ohio based upon Reason polling. Now,
23:39
Speaker 1: I'm still not convinced that Marina is going to win
23:41
Speaker 1: in Ohio, but I'm feeling pretty good about what's happening
23:43
Speaker 1: in Montana.
23:44
Speaker 2: I won't feel great.
23:45
Speaker 1: Until we actually see the results, because I think the
23:48
Speaker 1: Montana race is maybe the most important race other than President.
23:51
Speaker 2: In the entire country.
23:52
Speaker 1: It might not even be close, But my theory has
23:56
Speaker 1: always been that Trump required.
24:00
Speaker 2: A Trump vote requires.
24:01
Speaker 1: An awful lot for the non Trumpster, for the moderate voter,
24:07
Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna expend a lot of your
24:10
Speaker 1: voting capital and voting for Trump, you're probably gonna headge
24:13
Speaker 1: your bet and vote for the Democrat down ballot. And
24:18
Speaker 1: it also works conversely, and that gets me to North Carolina. See,
24:23
Speaker 1: I'm not positive that Robinson tanking is gonna make Trump
24:30
Speaker 1: doa in North Carolina. I'm not suggesting it's gonna help,
24:35
Speaker 1: but I don't think it hurts him that much because
24:38
Speaker 1: I think what's gonna end up happening here is you're
24:41
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of weak Republican voters or moderate voters,
24:45
Speaker 1: or conservative Democrat voters.
24:47
Speaker 2: In North Carolina is a.
24:48
Speaker 1: State where there is still a significant number of so
24:51
Speaker 1: called conservative Democrats. All those people are now gonna vote
24:55
Speaker 1: for the Democratic incumbent candidate for governor. Well, what does
25:01
Speaker 1: that do? In a weird way? In my opinion, this
25:06
Speaker 1: helps free them up to vote for Trump, because these
25:10
Speaker 1: are people that would not ordinarily be full on one
25:14
Speaker 1: hundred percent Democratic voters. So if you were potentially going
25:20
Speaker 1: to vote for Robinson, but now you're going to vote
25:23
Speaker 1: for the Democratic candidate for governor, I think, even subconsciously,
25:28
Speaker 1: and I'm not pretending that this is a conscious decision,
25:31
Speaker 1: I think subconsciously it actually makes it a little bit
25:34
Speaker 1: easier to vote for Trump in order to balance your ticket.
25:40
Speaker 2: I could be wrong about this, it's just a theory.
25:44
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure how the Robinson situation is
25:46
Speaker 1: going to play out in North Carolina, but I can
25:48
Speaker 1: tell you this, North Carolina is critical. Everyone talks about Pennsylvania.
25:54
Speaker 1: I talk about Pennsylvania all the time. Pennsylvania is huge.
25:58
Speaker 1: It's absolutely the most important state right now, though I'm
26:02
Speaker 1: beginning to think maybe Wisconsin is right up there with Pennsylvania.
26:06
Speaker 1: But under the current theory of how Trump wins this,
26:11
Speaker 1: the current path that makes the most sense. Currently could change,
26:17
Speaker 1: but the current path is Pennsylvania, North Carolina.
26:19
Speaker 2: And Georgia.
26:21
Speaker 1: Well, you've gotta have North Carolina if you're Trump. I mean,
26:25
Speaker 1: if Trump does not win North Carolina. It is really
26:30
Speaker 1: hard to see a path because the only path that
26:32
Speaker 1: even makes any sense at all if Trump loses North
26:36
Speaker 1: Carolina is for Trump to win Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. There's
26:42
Speaker 1: no other way to do it without North Carolina. If
26:45
Speaker 1: you don't win North Carolina, you gotta win Pennsylvania. You
26:48
Speaker 1: gotta win Wisconsin. And North Carolina is a state that
26:52
Speaker 1: Trump has won twice before. So it's really, really, really
26:56
Speaker 1: hard to comprehend a scenario where Trump loses in twenty
27:02
Speaker 1: twenty but wins North Carolina, and then in the four
27:07
Speaker 1: years that.
27:08
Speaker 2: Go by, you know, he gets impeached.
27:11
Speaker 1: Over January sixth, he gets indicted four times, convicted of
27:15
Speaker 1: thirty four felony counts everything else that's happened. You lose
27:20
Speaker 1: North Carolina to a much more popular opponent in Harris
27:26
Speaker 1: than you know, the dimension ridden Joe Biden, and you
27:31
Speaker 1: win the election. I mean, that's just really hard to
27:34
Speaker 1: fathom how that would happen. So North Carolina is as
27:38
Speaker 1: big a must win state as any I mean, I've
27:41
Speaker 1: always said Georgia is number one as far as just
27:45
Speaker 1: even the building blocks of a victory. You gotta win Georgia.
27:49
Speaker 1: You gotta win North Carolina, then you hope for the
27:52
Speaker 1: best to try to pick off Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. I think
27:56
Speaker 1: Michigan has probably lost at this point, but I'll keep
27:59
Speaker 1: Michigan in play at least for now. But that's how
28:04
Speaker 1: important North Carolina is. And as I've said, I still
28:08
Speaker 1: have North Carolina currently in the Harris camp. But I'm
28:12
Speaker 1: I'm easily persuaded there was a good pull out for
28:16
Speaker 1: Trump today in North Carolina. All I need is a
28:20
Speaker 1: post Robinson scandal poll showing that Trump is up by
28:25
Speaker 1: a few points in North Carolina, and I will shift
28:28
Speaker 1: North Carolina back to Trump. But I'm going to stick
28:31
Speaker 1: for now with the same projection that I've made in
28:35
Speaker 1: the last episode, which is that currently, if the election
28:37
Speaker 1: were today, Harris would win two ninety two to two
28:40
Speaker 1: forty six in the electoral College vote. Just for context,
28:46
Speaker 1: if North Carolina. If I were to shift North Carolina
28:49
Speaker 1: to the Trump camp, that would make it two seventy.
28:52
Speaker 2: Six to sixty two for Harris.
28:55
Speaker 1: Trump would still need another state, and you know that state,
29:01
Speaker 1: you know, could be Nevada. But under the current the
29:06
Speaker 1: current numbers, the current reality that I have it as
29:12
Speaker 1: North Carolina alone would not do it because I don't
29:15
Speaker 1: have Trump winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. And just to
29:21
Speaker 1: be clear, now that it appears as if in the
29:24
Speaker 1: second congression district in Nebraska is off the table, that
29:28
Speaker 1: means Trump has to win one of those three big
29:32
Speaker 1: ten states, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania. You know, I've yet
29:37
Speaker 1: to see a poll that shows me that Trump is
29:40
Speaker 1: clearly winning Pennsylvania. I haven't seen one in a very
29:43
Speaker 1: long time against Terrace. I can't even remember there ever
29:46
Speaker 1: being one. And it's a similar situation in Wisconsin. But
29:49
Speaker 1: the polls are very very very very close in both
29:52
Speaker 1: states and certainly within the margin of error. And I'm
29:57
Speaker 1: starting to become convinced that maybe Wisconsin is a better
30:00
Speaker 1: shot for Trump than Pennsylvania for reasons that I kind
30:06
Speaker 1: of went into in the last episode of the podcast
30:07
Speaker 1: and I'll go into again.
30:09
Speaker 2: If we continue to think that.
30:11
Speaker 1: That's the better path for Trump, there's really only two
30:14
Speaker 1: paths Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia or Wisconsin.
30:20
Speaker 2: And then you win the sun Belt states.
30:21
Speaker 1: You gotta win Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia, So you
30:25
Speaker 1: got to win four of the swing states. If it's Wisconsin,
30:28
Speaker 1: you only have to win three of the swing states
30:30
Speaker 1: if it's Pennsylvania. So that's the situation with regard to
30:34
Speaker 1: the state of the race. There's one other demographic issue
30:38
Speaker 1: that I wanted to raise because this is really remarkable.
30:41
Speaker 1: I don't know how much impact it's going to have
30:43
Speaker 1: on the actual election, but it does show so much
30:46
Speaker 1: about our culture and our politics and our media.
30:50
Speaker 2: There's a new poll that shows that Kamala Harris.
30:53
Speaker 1: Is up thirty eight points with Asian Americans, eight points
31:01
Speaker 1: among Asian Americans. Biden was up fifteen points in July,
31:07
Speaker 1: two weeks before dropping out. Harris's favorability among Asian Americans
31:13
Speaker 1: is plus twenty six, up two points up, not just
31:18
Speaker 1: two points she was up. She was plus two in July.
31:21
Speaker 1: So she's skyrocketed among Asian Americans since becoming the nominee.
31:27
Speaker 1: Indian Americans, and of course, you know her racial makeup
31:32
Speaker 1: is supposed to be half I guess you would call
31:35
Speaker 1: black and then half Indian. Indian Americans are breaking sixty
31:40
Speaker 1: nine to twenty five in Harris's favor It was forty
31:44
Speaker 1: six to twenty nine with Biden. Now I can get
31:47
Speaker 1: the Indian American thing because obviously her mom was Indian, and.
31:52
Speaker 2: So therefore I get it there.
31:54
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with had to make some sense,
31:57
Speaker 1: even though it's clearly not based in any.
31:59
Speaker 2: Sort of policy or philosophy or anything like that. People
32:03
Speaker 2: are just voting.
32:04
Speaker 1: Because hey, she's part of our tribe, which you know
32:07
Speaker 1: is not the best thing in the world. But I
32:09
Speaker 1: don't think it's inherently wrong either, And it bothers me
32:14
Speaker 1: greatly that the only time that that's considered to be
32:16
Speaker 1: totally wrong is when white people do it. And that
32:21
Speaker 1: is the secondary issue I want.
32:22
Speaker 2: To raise here. But the first issue is it is.
32:25
Speaker 1: Absolutely astonishing to me that in twenty twenty four Asian
32:30
Speaker 1: Americans can be so pro democratic, so pro Harris, when
32:38
Speaker 1: they are the one racial demographic that are clearly targeted
32:44
Speaker 1: by democratic policies, clearly targeted.
32:48
Speaker 2: Now, there's always been a.
32:49
Speaker 1: Lot of talk about how is it that Jewish people
32:51
Speaker 1: can possibly be so overwhelmingly democratic? How does that make
32:55
Speaker 1: any sense, especially given the fact that democratic support for
32:59
Speaker 1: Israel to be rather weak.
33:01
Speaker 2: They seem to be taken hostage.
33:03
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has at least parts of it by
33:05
Speaker 1: the pro Hamas wing of the progressive movement, and so
33:11
Speaker 1: I totally understand why people are confused. I don't understand
33:14
Speaker 1: it from a capital socialism standpoint. You know, most Jewish
33:18
Speaker 1: people are very capitalistic. So I am baffled and always
33:23
Speaker 1: have been, by Jewish people voting Democrat, especially in this cycle.
33:28
Speaker 1: But I understand it because it's cultural. I mean, I've
33:32
Speaker 1: talked all the time about how Judaism is a lot
33:35
Speaker 1: of things. It's a culture, it's a religion, it's a state,
33:40
Speaker 1: it's a race. I mean, it's a very complex situation,
33:45
Speaker 1: and there is a tradition of voting Democrat.
33:48
Speaker 2: So I don't agree with it. I don't like it,
33:52
Speaker 2: but at.
33:52
Speaker 1: Least it makes a little bit of sense to me.
33:55
Speaker 1: The Asian American thing makes no sense to me philosophically.
34:02
Speaker 1: Asian Americans should not be voting Democrat, and specifically, if
34:08
Speaker 1: for no other reason than the fact that the Democratic
34:11
Speaker 1: Party is openly in favor of DEI efforts, especially in academia,
34:18
Speaker 1: that target Asian American children and Asian American young people,
34:25
Speaker 1: whether it's for positions in schools or for jobs, they
34:30
Speaker 1: are targeted by Democratic policy. They are discriminated against more
34:36
Speaker 1: than any other racial demographic and it has apparently no impact,
34:43
Speaker 1: especially with Harris as the nominee, on how Asian Americans vote,
34:47
Speaker 1: where they are still now more overwhelmingly than they did
34:51
Speaker 1: with Biden going to vote for Harris, and it is
34:55
Speaker 1: absolutely baffling to me. And you know, Republicans have not
34:59
Speaker 1: done a great job of reaching out to Asian Americans,
35:03
Speaker 1: but frankly, I don't.
35:04
Speaker 2: Know that they should have to. It should be so obvious.
35:06
Speaker 1: I mean, the Asian American culture is so against so
35:12
Speaker 1: much of what the Democratic Party has become. And then
35:15
Speaker 1: when you add on top of it the fact that
35:17
Speaker 1: in their never ending effort to try to prop up
35:21
Speaker 1: minority populations and to give advantages to minority populations, they
35:27
Speaker 1: are overtly discriminating against Asian Americans, and Asian Americans seemingly
35:33
Speaker 1: don't care, and they are apparently way more enthusiastic about
35:38
Speaker 1: Harris than they were about Biden. And in hearing lies,
35:43
Speaker 1: I think maybe the greatest disadvantage that the Republican Party has.
35:49
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of disadvantages, largely because of the
35:52
Speaker 1: media bias that pervades our elections, but I think that
35:57
Speaker 1: at least subtly, the most un underrated. If not the greatest,
36:02
Speaker 1: it might be the greatest of it's definitely the most underrated.
36:05
Speaker 1: The most underrated disadvantage of the Republican Party has is
36:09
Speaker 1: that they, unlike the Democratic Party, are not allowed to
36:13
Speaker 1: appeal to the race of their voters. The media will
36:17
Speaker 1: not allow it. It is a massive double standard. Democrats
36:23
Speaker 1: can do anything they want to openly appeal, for instance,
36:28
Speaker 1: to black voters, and it's applauded in the media. But Trump, obviously,
36:35
Speaker 1: who is much more popular with white voters than he
36:40
Speaker 1: is with any other racial demographic, is not Even Trump
36:43
Speaker 1: is not allowed to remotely directly appeal to white people.
36:49
Speaker 1: He's not allowed because the media would go apoplectic. Now
36:54
Speaker 1: if I've never understood, okay, so why is it that
36:58
Speaker 1: you're allowed to appeal to black voters directly basically bribing
37:03
Speaker 1: black voters at times if you're the Democratic Party, but
37:07
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to even subtly say, hey, white people,
37:12
Speaker 1: you know you're under attack because you are.
37:16
Speaker 2: Now. Look, if we were in the nineteen.
37:19
Speaker 1: Sixties, still prior to the Civil Rights Act, I would say, okay, yeah,
37:24
Speaker 1: that would be racist to directly appeal to white people.
37:28
Speaker 2: But the world has completely.
37:30
Speaker 1: Changed now and there are you know, hell, in this state,
37:35
Speaker 1: we're effectively a minority in California. So I've never understood,
37:39
Speaker 1: So why is it then that you're not allowed to
37:42
Speaker 1: appeal to white people and at least make the argument, Hey, look,
37:46
Speaker 1: if you want to protect your rights and your children's rights,
37:50
Speaker 1: and your children's ability to get into schools and your
37:52
Speaker 1: children's ability to get jobs, then you don't want this
37:57
Speaker 1: dei president.
37:59
Speaker 2: But they're not even allowed to make that argument.
38:01
Speaker 1: Republicans are, because it would be deemed to be inherently racist,
38:05
Speaker 1: even though the other side is allowed to do whatever
38:07
Speaker 1: the hell they want when it comes to appealing to
38:10
Speaker 1: black voters. And it's in a massive disadvantage. There's so
38:14
Speaker 1: many of them when it comes to national campaigns because
38:17
Speaker 1: of the media double standard and the media bias. But
38:20
Speaker 1: that one, to me is by far the most underrated.
38:24
Speaker 1: The second issue in this campaign that is the biggest,
38:27
Speaker 1: you know, one of the bigger disadvantages for Republicans, and
38:31
Speaker 1: it gets a lot of attention is.
38:33
Speaker 2: The abortion issue. And look, I.
38:36
Speaker 1: Think this is something that Trumpers are not fully putting
38:40
Speaker 1: into the equation. You know, when they look at the
38:43
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen results and the twenty twenty results, and they say, well,
38:47
Speaker 1: Trump is way ahead of where he was then, and
38:49
Speaker 1: so therefore he's going to win this election. One of
38:52
Speaker 1: the major factors that they're not calculating is that since
38:57
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty election, we had a major decision with
39:01
Speaker 1: regard to abortion in the Supreme Court, and we've had
39:06
Speaker 1: all sorts of state laws. And you know, also we've
39:10
Speaker 1: talked about this many many times before. So this now
39:13
Speaker 1: is a massive issue and a major driver of turnout
39:18
Speaker 1: among key Democrat Democratic demographics, especially now that Taylor Swift
39:24
Speaker 1: has made her endorsement of Kamala Harris. And look, I
39:30
Speaker 1: don't understand the logic of abortion being the be all,
39:35
Speaker 1: end all issue. I get why in certain demographics like
39:39
Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift crowd, that that's something that they care
39:42
Speaker 1: a lot about. I get it, and it's an incredibly
39:45
Speaker 1: complex issue, and I don't even have a strong opinion.
39:48
Speaker 2: About what the law ought to be.
39:50
Speaker 1: But I do know that the media is desperately searching,
39:56
Speaker 1: desperately searching for Aha, the Aha story that proves that
40:03
Speaker 1: these new Republican laws are endangering the lives of women
40:08
Speaker 1: and that women aren't being able to get abortions and
40:12
Speaker 1: that this is causing a health crisis. And I mean
40:15
Speaker 1: they have worked over time to find the perfect case.
40:20
Speaker 1: Now they've claimed to have found it. A couple of
40:22
Speaker 1: times they haven't because when you look at the details,
40:26
Speaker 1: there's always a problem and invariably you know nothing that
40:31
Speaker 1: the Republicans have done an abortion directly resulted in whatever
40:35
Speaker 1: the story was about. But there's another one that came
40:37
Speaker 1: up that really bugged me, which I tweeted about that
40:40
Speaker 1: I want to at least mention on the podcast. This one,
40:43
Speaker 1: to me, what reason why it resonated was because it's
40:48
Speaker 1: so clearly a story that the news media decided fit
40:54
Speaker 1: what they wanted to be the narrative, and so therefore
40:58
Speaker 1: they just ran with it and basically pretended that the
41:02
Speaker 1: story was about abortion when it absolutely had nothing to
41:06
Speaker 1: do with abortion. I'm referring to a story out of
41:09
Speaker 1: South Carolina. See, now, when I'm looking at this from
41:13
Speaker 1: the media perspective, I'm pretending that, you know, I'm a national.
41:17
Speaker 2: Liberal media.
41:19
Speaker 1: Editor or assignment editor or a reporter, and I'm looking
41:23
Speaker 1: at the basics of a narrative and whether or not
41:26
Speaker 1: it checks the boxes for what might serve our agenda
41:32
Speaker 1: on the abortion issue. So South Carolina is the perfect place,
41:36
Speaker 1: right conservative state run by Republicans. Therefore, you can pretty
41:42
Speaker 1: much rest assure that anything that happened.
41:44
Speaker 2: Here, it's the fault of Republicans.
41:47
Speaker 1: So headline here south Carolina woman accused of murder after
41:53
Speaker 1: losing her pregnancy. Well, the woman is young and she's black. Okay,
42:00
Speaker 1: now we're cooking with oil. We've got South Carolina. We've
42:04
Speaker 1: got a young black woman. She's accused of murder after
42:09
Speaker 1: losing her pregnancy. And this story has been shared far
42:13
Speaker 1: and wide by liberals with great proficiency. In fact, I
42:18
Speaker 1: saw one example where over eight million views. There's been
42:23
Speaker 1: over eight million views for one posting on Twitter of
42:27
Speaker 1: this particular story that pretended that this story was about abortion.
42:33
Speaker 2: The story has literally nothing to do with abortion. Nothing.
42:39
Speaker 1: This is a woman who had a premature pregnancy at home.
42:43
Speaker 1: She put the baby, the premature baby, in the toilet.
42:49
Speaker 1: She was told to take the baby out of the toilet.
42:53
Speaker 1: She didn't do it. The baby died. That was partially,
42:56
Speaker 1: at least partially why the baby died. And that's why. Eventually,
43:02
Speaker 1: after full investigation by a Democratic prosecutor who said this
43:07
Speaker 1: issue had nothing to do with abortion whatsoever, decided to
43:11
Speaker 1: prosecute her for murder, and yet somehow this is an
43:16
Speaker 1: example of a story that has become used by the
43:20
Speaker 1: media and by the Democratic.
43:22
Speaker 2: Party as aha see, this is.
43:24
Speaker 1: The world Republicans want you to live in when it
43:26
Speaker 1: comes to the health of young women.
43:30
Speaker 2: No, this was a horrible situation.
43:32
Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not this woman deserves to
43:35
Speaker 1: be accused of murder or some lesser charge. It sounds
43:39
Speaker 1: like a horrendous situation and maybe panics set in, who knows,
43:44
Speaker 1: But I don't care about that.
43:46
Speaker 2: With regard to the abortion issue, this case.
43:49
Speaker 1: Again, as the Democratic prosecutor publicly stated, has nothing to
43:53
Speaker 1: do with abortion, and in fact, in South Carolina, it's
43:58
Speaker 1: specifically part of the law that a woman cannot be
44:01
Speaker 1: charged with murder in relation to the attempt to have
44:05
Speaker 1: an abortion.
44:06
Speaker 2: That's in the law in South Carolina.
44:09
Speaker 1: But this, to me was just a great example of
44:11
Speaker 1: how desperate the Democrats are and how desperate the liberal
44:15
Speaker 1: media are to try to continue to add fuel to
44:19
Speaker 1: this fire, to outrage people and to make it a
44:24
Speaker 1: cause which will turn out Democratic votes in November. And
44:28
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be effective, because there are a
44:31
Speaker 1: lot of people who have been fooled into thinking, oh
44:33
Speaker 1: my god, we can't get an abortion anymore. As I
44:36
Speaker 1: say constantly on this issue, can we at least acknowledge
44:39
Speaker 1: that there's now a thing called an abortion pill, a
44:43
Speaker 1: morning after pill. The technology surrounding abortion has dramatically changed
44:50
Speaker 1: since Roe v. Wade was once the law of the land.
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Speaker 1: And of course, you know what happened with the Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court has been grossly misinterpreted and has been misperceived and
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Speaker 1: bastardized by the liberal media for obvious political purposes. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was the correct decision from.
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Speaker 2: A legal perspective.
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Speaker 1: It allowed states to decide what they want to do. Now,
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Speaker 1: have some states gone further than I think makes sense? Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: But we're living in a different world in nineteen seventy three,
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Speaker 1: and the media refuses to accept that because they don't
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Speaker 1: want anything that confuses this issue.
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Speaker 2: They want this to be as clear cut.
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Speaker 1: Republicans are against the health of young women and against
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Speaker 1: abortion rights, and this is a sacred right, and you know,
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Speaker 1: this is what will motivate young women to actually vote,
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Speaker 1: and that will be good for Democrats. Well, almost every
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Speaker 1: single time they try to come up with the perfect
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Speaker 1: test case for this, the perfect aha moment. It has
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Speaker 1: nothing to do directly with the Roe v. Wade decision
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Speaker 1: or with republic looking laws when it comes to abortion.
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Speaker 1: Speaking of the states and their role in the national election,
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Speaker 1: I have been saying time and time again that the
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Speaker 1: biggest mistake that the Trump campaign is making is not
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Speaker 1: focusing on a daily basis intensely on the California issue
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Speaker 1: with regard to Kamala Harris, that the California dysfunction, and
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Speaker 1: that the California nanny state and the California socialism and
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Speaker 1: Marxism that should be hanging around Kamala Harris's neck at
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Speaker 1: every opportunity.
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Speaker 2: It's not just because she's from California. She was the San.
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Speaker 1: Francisco DA, the California Attorney General, California Senator. She's close
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Speaker 1: to Newsom, she's close to Nancy Pelosi literally engineered the
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Speaker 1: coup that allowed her to take over as the Democratic
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Speaker 1: presidential nominee. She should own, I mean California, California, California
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Speaker 1: Comrade Kamala or Kamala from California.
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Speaker 2: That should be the mantra. And it has not.
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Speaker 1: Been, and and yet Gavin Newsom here in California has
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Speaker 1: been passing law after law, signing law after law that
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Speaker 1: really plays right into this narrative. It's almost I mean,
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Speaker 1: the lack of creative thinking and the number of missed
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Speaker 1: opportunities by the Trump campaign has really been depressing because
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Speaker 1: I know, it's this time of year when the California
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Speaker 1: legislature wraps up and they.
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Speaker 2: Put all these wacky ideas.
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Speaker 1: Together, and then Newsom decides which ones he's gonna sign,
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Speaker 1: and almost every day you're like, oh my god, they're
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Speaker 1: gonna do this to us, They're gonna do that to us.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna screw us here, they're gonna screw us there.
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Speaker 1: And yet the Trump campaign, because they have not set
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Speaker 1: this narrative, is not taking advantage of this. Newsom is
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Speaker 1: playing right into this whole potential.
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Speaker 2: Narrative, this entire idea of do.
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Speaker 1: You want the rest of the country to be like California?
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Speaker 1: I mean, just as an example one of many. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I could go through probably a dozen in just the
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Speaker 1: last few days. But Newsom signed a law banning plastic
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Speaker 1: bags from grocery stores. Incredibly small nuisance, but it's the
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Speaker 1: pain in the ass. I mean, I religiously now go
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Speaker 1: to the grocery store with my own.
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Speaker 2: Bag because I refuse to pay.
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Speaker 1: For a bag, And I mean, it's a pain in
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Speaker 1: the butt, but I do it just, you know, out
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Speaker 1: of philosophical concerns.
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Speaker 2: Well, now you're not even gonna be able to.
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Speaker 1: Buy a plastic bag from the grocery store, even though
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Speaker 1: you're gonna.
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Speaker 2: Be able to get plastic all over the place.
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Speaker 1: At you know, fast food restaurants, you gotta ask for
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Speaker 1: a plastic straw. At McDonald's you can usually get one.
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Speaker 1: It just makes no sense, It does absolutely nothing. It's
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Speaker 1: just a great example of the nanny state that in California,
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Speaker 1: the state believes they know how to live your life
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Speaker 1: better than you do. And connecting this to Harris is
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Speaker 1: not difficult. We have Harris on tape saying that she
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Speaker 1: is in favor of banning plastic straws, although she does
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Speaker 1: say in the clip that she magically wants there to
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Speaker 1: be a better version of the paper straw, that she
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Speaker 1: doesn't like paper straws, but she's in favor of banning
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Speaker 1: plastic straws because it's a virtue signal. It's a liberal
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Speaker 1: virtue signal that somehow. That's where they want to draw
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Speaker 1: the line when it comes to this environmental effort that
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Speaker 1: seemingly has no impact whatsoever and is just intended to
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Speaker 1: exert governmental authority over our lives and to create a
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Speaker 1: nanny state.
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Speaker 2: That's what this is. It's a nanny state.
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Speaker 1: And it seems like a small issue, but if it's
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Speaker 1: part of a much larger narrative, I think it can
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Speaker 1: be very effective. Harris needs to own California, and every
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Speaker 1: American ought to be forced to decide, Okay, philosophically, do
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Speaker 1: we want the rest of the country to be more
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Speaker 1: like California or not? That should be, frankly, the primary
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Speaker 1: question put in front of voters when it comes to
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, and that has not happened. That has not happened,
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Speaker 1: and I don't see any sign that it's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: There have been so many missed opportunities.
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Speaker 2: My god, there's.
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Speaker 1: Another one coming up this week. The Oakland A's are
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Speaker 1: about to play their last home game in Oakland. Story
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Speaker 1: baseball franchise the city of Oakland, harris is hometown. I'm
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Speaker 1: not blaming her for this, but can you imagine if
50:52
Speaker 1: Oakland was a conservative place, and if that's where Trump
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Speaker 1: was from.
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Speaker 2: And Oakland was about to lose their full.
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Speaker 1: Professional sports franchise in less than a generation and now
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Speaker 1: be completely without any professional sports, all because of total dysfunction.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this would be a national issue, but because
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Speaker 1: the predicate hasn't been set, the narrative hasn't been said.
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Speaker 1: You know, every time you talk about something that seems
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Speaker 1: small or trivial, people will toss it aside. But if
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Speaker 1: it's part of a larger issue, a larger question, Hey,
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Speaker 1: look at California.
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Speaker 2: Is this really the way you want the rest of
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Speaker 2: the United States to be? If it is, then go ahead.
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Speaker 1: And vote for Kamala Harris because California is in her DNA.
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Speaker 1: She's a large part of how California got to be
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Speaker 1: where it is. Obviously not in totality, but she's played
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Speaker 1: a significant role. She was the Attorney general of this state.
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Speaker 1: She was the Senator from this state. She was the
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Speaker 1: District attorney of San Francisco, and her are all the
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Speaker 1: ones that have been in charge, obviously Newsom and Pelosi
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Speaker 1: most prominently among them. I mean, I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: not difficult yet. The Trump team has largely have not
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Speaker 1: totally fumbled this.
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Speaker 2: Entire issue and it drives me crazy.
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