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5 Things We Learned Talking To The Buckeyes Tonight · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: Morning for Thursday, September fifth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Tom Moore.
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  Speaker 1: The Western Michigan game in two days, the game against
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  Speaker 1: Michigan in eighty six days. Just got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: talk to Ryan Day and a whole mess of Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna try. There were a million guys
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  Speaker 1: we got a chance to talk to, a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys. Got a chance to talk specialists we haven't
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  Speaker 1: talked to I.
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  Speaker 2: Think all year.
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  Speaker 1: We get a chance to talk to Brandon Nis, karonel Tait,
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys, Lots of injury stuff to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today.
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  Speaker 2: But Tony Garnam Buckehetle dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: Tony, I guess the thing that everyone is going to
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  Speaker 1: be most interested in is, so, what's the update on
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  Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson and Cody Simon.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Day said that they both practiced today, but they
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  Speaker 3: are still day to day so we all, yes, I
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  Speaker 3: practicing how much who knows, but the fact that they
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  Speaker 3: practiced is encouraging. I still don't think they necessarily I
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  Speaker 3: know they don't need to play correct, but it is
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  Speaker 3: interesting that he didn't just say nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he said something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that that materially moves the needle for
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  Speaker 1: me on the likelihood that one or both of them
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  Speaker 1: play on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: But day to day always trumps it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And this is a situation where you've got
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  Speaker 1: a game where they're favored by what thirty eight points
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  Speaker 1: something like that, and after that you get a week off.
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  Speaker 1: So by not playing this weekend, you have another week
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  Speaker 1: off and then another week off after that, and then
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  Speaker 1: you have a week where you could play Marshall and
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  Speaker 1: sort of get ramped up a little bit, and then
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  Speaker 1: a week where you're playing Michigan State and you get
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  Speaker 1: ramped up a little more after that, and then it
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  Speaker 1: sort of starts to get real in October. It would
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  Speaker 1: make a lot of sense to me if they're not
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure on either of those guys, and
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  Speaker 1: if they're day to day it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're not one hundred per cent sure.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like there's a pretty compelling argument to just
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  Speaker 1: set this one out, take another week off next week,
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  Speaker 1: and then come back and play against the Thundering Herd.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because the guys that are playing in place of
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  Speaker 3: those guys can still use all of those snaps they
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  Speaker 3: can this This is a time where they can get
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  Speaker 3: some help from playing, getting that experience that might come
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  Speaker 3: into play later on down the season. So I think
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  Speaker 3: there's as many positives as you need to hold them
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  Speaker 3: out again if you would like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that's kind of the immediate interest
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  Speaker 1: angle through the interviews tonight. I was not over there
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  Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Day. I was talking to Jaden Fielding instead.
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  Speaker 1: So what else did Brian Day have to say?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, he was asked about some of the
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  Speaker 3: people that we've talked to tonight, including like Brandon Innis,
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  Speaker 3: and the importance of that punt return role, and I asked,
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  Speaker 3: and what kind of responsibility is that? And it's like
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  Speaker 3: we tell anybody, with the ball in your hands, you
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  Speaker 3: have the team in your hands. And so that's a
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  Speaker 3: huge responsibility, especially in that position as the punt returner,
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  Speaker 3: where you have so many decisions to make whether to
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  Speaker 3: catch it, whether to let it go, when to catch it,
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  Speaker 3: where to catch it, how to catch it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you've got your eyes up talking to Brandon in us
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  Speaker 3: about where your eyes are where the ball is, Like
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  Speaker 3: it depends on where the ball is and you're just
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  Speaker 3: trying to see if somebody is coming out of the
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  Speaker 3: corner of your eye. But that responsibility, it's not something
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  Speaker 3: they do lightly. Meka Buka did it last year and
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  Speaker 3: Jayden Vallid as well, but they don't hand that off lightly.
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  Speaker 3: They take it very seriously because you know, he saved
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  Speaker 3: them three first downs and one of the ones that
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  Speaker 3: was going to roll gained them like three first downs
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  Speaker 3: on another from thirty yard return, So that's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of hidden yardage that they are putting in his hands.
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  Speaker 3: He's the fourth receiver, probably expected to be one of
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  Speaker 3: the top three guys this year, but having that role,
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  Speaker 3: it's like we've talked about with the Mecca Buca last week.
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  Speaker 3: When he was a true freshman, he didn't view himself
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  Speaker 3: as a wide receiver. He viewed himself as the team's
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  Speaker 3: kick returner. And while Brandon Innis definitely views himself as
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  Speaker 3: still a receiver, he also knows that he is the
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  Speaker 3: team's kick returner or the punt returner.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and being the punt returner has kind of a
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  Speaker 1: different vibe to it this year where it's not just hey,
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  Speaker 1: there's a special teams coach the Ohio State assistance coaches
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  Speaker 1: are all you know, it's Rob Keys, it's Gunner Daniel
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  Speaker 1: who are the special teams guys who you know with
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  Speaker 1: that in their title. But James Lernidis is helping with
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  Speaker 1: special teams in some of the units, and Brian Hartline
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  Speaker 1: is helping with special teams and some of the units.
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  Speaker 2: And it sounded like Brandons when I walked over.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about being Having Brian Hartline there, your
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  Speaker 1: position coach there kind of makes it.
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  Speaker 2: More important that you're really doing a good job.
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  Speaker 1: Because they've talked for years, years about wide receivers being
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  Speaker 1: gunners on punt and earning your spot in the wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver rotation by doing an excellent job with being gunner
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  Speaker 1: on a punt return. I would assume being a punt
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  Speaker 1: returner is probably much the same.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was trying to think back.
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  Speaker 3: Brian Hartline had a punt return touchdown in seven or
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  Speaker 3: eight maybe, I mean he played six or seven and
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  Speaker 3: o eight. He had a punt return touchdown one of
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  Speaker 3: those years. And I'm just wondering how many other guys
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  Speaker 3: between him and now Because you had Chris Field's, you
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  Speaker 3: had Chris Corey Brown, Jalen Marshall.
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  Speaker 2: I'm running out of names.
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  Speaker 1: There have been a lot less between unless you're counting
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  Speaker 1: block punt returns, so I think you're running out of name.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you are running out of names between then
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  Speaker 3: and now. But as we've said, it sure seems like
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  Speaker 3: there's going to be one this season, and they absolutely
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  Speaker 3: believe there will be. Last year they had seventy five
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  Speaker 3: total punt return yards. On Saturday, he had sixty by himself,
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  Speaker 3: so could start.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like that's a positive trend for the punt return unit.
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  Speaker 1: It was very interesting to talk to the special teams
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  Speaker 1: guys tonight because you get a chance to talk to
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  Speaker 1: Joe Maguire, which I'm extremely jealous. I get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Jaden Fielding, who was also very interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I always loved talking to the specialists because we get
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  Speaker 1: to talk to him once or twice a year.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of stuff that.
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  Speaker 1: You can kind of you know, people don't necessarily can't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily relate to I'm trying to block a two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty pound guy ahead of me who can run,
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  Speaker 1: you know, twenty one miles an hour. They can relate
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  Speaker 1: to trying to kick a football everyone's trying to kick
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  Speaker 1: a football at some point, so it's like, oh, I know.
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  Speaker 2: We kickers as you and I, we speak.
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  Speaker 1: The same language. But Jaden Fielding was talking about how
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  Speaker 1: different things are this year in terms of just the
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  Speaker 1: focus and the detail with the with the special teams unit,
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  Speaker 1: which is strange to say when you're going from having
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  Speaker 1: a dedicated special team's coach to having a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: people doing it. Now there are more people doing it.
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  Speaker 1: It's more sets of eyes, which is probably beneficial in
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  Speaker 1: a way. But I just thought that was very interesting
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  Speaker 1: that that was an area where they had a guy
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  Speaker 1: who was supposed to be just working on that last year,
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  Speaker 1: and it feels like there's been a material upgrade that's
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  Speaker 1: already sort of showing up on the field this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, kickers and punters always just have their own people
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  Speaker 3: as well. That's not always the special teams coordinator guy.
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  Speaker 3: But it is interesting that you have even Ryan Day
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  Speaker 3: said the return the return was better this week this
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  Speaker 3: week for you know, whatever reason, after the game, and
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  Speaker 3: it's like, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think there are many subtext there are many reasons, but
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  Speaker 1: also there are more eyes, like you said, but that's
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  Speaker 1: every position as well, because of the new rules, which
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  Speaker 1: is good.
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  Speaker 3: So figure more eyes, more focused, more opportunities to help
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  Speaker 3: guys get better. And with all of these position coaches
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  Speaker 3: wanting to see you also want to see your guys
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  Speaker 3: do well.
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  Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Incentive for that to be something that they can do
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  Speaker 3: now because it didn't ever hasn't felt like they're interested
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  Speaker 3: in making that a weapon. It's just it's just the
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  Speaker 3: mechanism to get the ball back in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been like a vestigial tail or something on
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  Speaker 1: this team for a few years, it has felt like,
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  Speaker 1: and this year it's feeling like it's much more of
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  Speaker 1: the third leg of the team that the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the third piece of the offense defense special team, sort
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  Speaker 1: of triumvirate there. Jaden field being talked him also about
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  Speaker 1: we will get to stuff other than specialists, and don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to the Australian specialist a minute, but we
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  Speaker 1: have to finish up with the Texan specialist. Jaden fielding
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  Speaker 1: he was asked about how they simulated the you know,
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  Speaker 1: simulating the pressure that you feel kicking in a game
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that you might be asked to go
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  Speaker 1: out at with two seconds left in the clock and
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  Speaker 1: kick a fifty yarder with the wind blowing and all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of how do you set how do you
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  Speaker 1: simulate that pressure during practice?
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  Speaker 2: And he said there were a few.
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  Speaker 1: There were I think five practices this year where he
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  Speaker 1: had to go out there and hit five field goals
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  Speaker 1: in a row, or the team had to run.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of practice.
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  Speaker 1: So, oh, boy, do you not want to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy that makes everyone run in the August heat in Columbus?
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  Speaker 1: And he said they hit run once, but four out
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  Speaker 1: of five, And you know it sounds like, boy, that's
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  Speaker 1: that is a great way to feel as close to
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  Speaker 1: in game pressure as you possibly can.
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  Speaker 3: And also hate and angst and anger from the people
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  Speaker 3: around you if you miss a big kick.
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  Speaker 4: It's just what's a way to prepare for that? As well?
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  Speaker 4: Things aren't going to go great for you if you
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  Speaker 4: miss this kick.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that you can't simulate is I didn't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't see any teammates tweeting at him about how
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  Speaker 1: how heavy's a bum on whatever day it was that
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  Speaker 1: he missed. So not not the full missing a field
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  Speaker 1: goal experience, but probably pretty much as close as you
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  Speaker 1: can get without that text, maybe maybe uh, let's uh,
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  Speaker 1: let's move on to the other piece of the punting
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  Speaker 1: and we'll transition with this. I asked him, when they
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  Speaker 1: transitioned from Nick McLardy to Joe McGuire as a starting punter, does.
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  Speaker 2: That change the holder?
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  Speaker 1: Is the starting punter always the holder because it has
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  Speaker 1: always been the holder in the past, And in my
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  Speaker 1: head this was a well, if you're.
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  Speaker 2: On a road game, you might not take a backup.
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  Speaker 1: Punter in terms of your travel squad, so you got
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  Speaker 1: the starting punter has to be And he said no,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily. Joe, John Froehlman and Joe McGuire and he
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  Speaker 1: worked a ton this offseason, so we have seen other
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  Speaker 1: guys holding, but it feels like Joe McGuire was probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the holder regardless of whether he was a
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  Speaker 1: starting punter or not. That was my That was my
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  Speaker 1: question tonight. That was like, this is probably only interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me, but I would like to answer to this.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and somebody's going to ask, maybe only one person.
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  Speaker 1: As long as that person is me. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that anyone else cares, but there you go. It's just
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  Speaker 1: so there you go. That was the the holder question
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  Speaker 1: of the day, Now, Tony, let's talk Australia.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and unfortunately nobody asked Joe McGuire about holding, so uh,
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  Speaker 3: kind of kicking myself now about.
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  Speaker 2: That one or you No, I'm not gonna say that.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, he was talked about talking about how
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  Speaker 3: a week and a half ago it was Nick McClarty,
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  Speaker 3: but that never changed anything that was going on because
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  Speaker 3: they were neck connecked throughout the entire thing, so he
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  Speaker 3: knew there was still time and they just they both
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  Speaker 3: went at it and he came out on top of
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  Speaker 3: this week. He said, but it's you know, you can't
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Nick mcclarty's an example like you can't let
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  Speaker 3: yourself have a bad week or you know, or even
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  Speaker 3: a bad couple of days. And that goes for anybody
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  Speaker 3: on this team because the position battles are always ongoing
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  Speaker 3: in certain spots. So that you know, he was, do
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  Speaker 3: you know how long he's been punting Tom? You know
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  Speaker 3: he's a pro kick Australia guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so, and he's been on the old state team
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  Speaker 1: for years, right, so I'm going to say three years.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: He's been punting for about three years, so he had
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  Speaker 3: to put on about forty five pounds to becoming American
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  Speaker 3: college football player.
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  Speaker 2: He probably could have stoped that sentence.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, he said twenty KOs and he's like, what's
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  Speaker 3: that about forty five pounds? Oh yeah, speak American here,
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  Speaker 3: So you know, he what's your you know, what do
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  Speaker 3: you want to average as the punter? He's like, as
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  Speaker 3: far as possible with his little return as possible. Good
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  Speaker 3: answer there, But you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, is that is yards or meters?
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  Speaker 3: Oh we didn't get into that one, but he did
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  Speaker 3: say the place he plays back home, and he gave
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  Speaker 3: us some name, you know, it's sponsored by something or
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  Speaker 3: other is one hundred thousand, but it's.
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  Speaker 4: It's a fifty to fifty crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so this is the first time.
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  Speaker 3: He's gotten to play and just like what ninety eight
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  Speaker 3: to two crowds. So that was that was fun for him.
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  Speaker 3: But then I thought he did well there and also
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  Speaker 3: out on the field this past week, and that getting
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  Speaker 3: that first game in I think only helps you in
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  Speaker 3: this ongoing competition for the job.
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  Speaker 1: It does, It's gonna be very interesting to see how
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  Speaker 1: that progresses. Is it just him every week or is
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  Speaker 1: it potentially change because if it was that close during
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  Speaker 1: fall camp, you'd think potentially might change. Having three guys,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of pressure and so that's
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  Speaker 1: in some ways you could think that's not good.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not just Nipper Clardy and him.
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  Speaker 1: They have Anthony Vanari from the University of Buffalo Sunni
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo known as the Buffalo Bulls for athletic purposes.
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  Speaker 2: He is here as well. He was in the mix
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  Speaker 2: for that planning job as well.
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  Speaker 1: Having three guys, you know, if someone gets hurt, that's
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  Speaker 1: great to have quality depth in terms of guys who've
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  Speaker 1: done this before, but also just in terms of keeping
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  Speaker 1: you know, you don't want complacency. This has been a
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  Speaker 1: big point of emphasis is don't get complacent. Don't don't
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  Speaker 1: look at Western michigano haha, We're going to beat them.
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  Speaker 1: You have to really be focused every every week, and
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  Speaker 1: having that kind of a competition probably keeps you looking
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  Speaker 1: over your shoulder a little bit and keeps you from
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  Speaker 1: getting a little complacent.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and he was also asked, you know, you were
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  Speaker 3: the one punter that returned and they went in and
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  Speaker 3: brought in two guys to try to take the job
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  Speaker 3: from you, and he's like, yeah, but I was like,
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  Speaker 3: the only guy here, you know, so yeah, you can't
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  Speaker 3: just go with one punter, so that that's kind of understandable.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like, I've been here, I know.
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  Speaker 4: All of this.
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  Speaker 3: I've you know, I've been to the games, I've been
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline. I'm sure he felt like he was
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  Speaker 3: the favorite, and he responded throughout, even when when told
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  Speaker 3: that at somebody else's job, He's like, I don't I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it is here.
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  Speaker 2: Hold my fosters respectfully disagree.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the definitely, definitelynna be interesting to watch that
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  Speaker 1: one play out, because I'm sure I'm sure you're going
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  Speaker 1: to see multiple guys punting over the course of the season,
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  Speaker 1: whether that's just in the fourth quarter of blowouts or otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that'll be interesting to watch that season play out.
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone has had psyched themselves up for the
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  Speaker 1: really tall Australian, but the other Australian.
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  Speaker 2: Since we're doing a perfectly fine job so far.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think they want to get Nick
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  Speaker 3: out there and just because yeah, he hasn't done it yet,
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  Speaker 3: so you want to be able to like Anthony Venaria
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  Speaker 3: has done it, so you at least have that. You
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  Speaker 3: want to get Nick out there so that he can
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  Speaker 3: just experience it, and the first time he's doing it
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  Speaker 3: isn't a you know, at Oregon whatever because of an injury.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you want to you want to get those
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  Speaker 1: first game nerves out in the fourth quarter against Western
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  Speaker 1: Michigan or Marshall or whoever.
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  Speaker 4: Don't against Western Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not up for me, Tony, It's not up
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  Speaker 1: to me. Thinking through some of the other guys we
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  Speaker 1: have to chance to talk to. I got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk to Tyler Williams. He I asked him about
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  Speaker 1: Edwarck Houston, just because Edwarck Houston just played a little
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  Speaker 1: bit but already had two really impactful plays.
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  Speaker 2: Gay Powers got a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to Gay Powers as well, and one of the
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  Speaker 1: plays that Edward Houston made was deflecting to pass into
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  Speaker 1: Gave Power's hands for the pick six. And it feels
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  Speaker 1: like everyone is sort of recognizing that it's not there yet,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna get there. With with Edric Houston, He's
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: already making impactful plays on the field.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: He's only been at on campus since what January, So it's.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: This is that this is pretty early for someone to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: be on the field and making those kind of plays.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: So definitely seeing some seeing some excitement from there, gave
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: powers did someone someone said he got a hand on
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: the ball and gave power striking suit. I think it
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: actually hit him in the helmet on the Uh yeah,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: yeah it was.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: It got it got him somewhere, but yeah, it was.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: That's definitely someone that you're gonna want to just you could,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: if you were so inclined, you could invest in a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: jersey and I'll probably feel pretty good about it for.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: The coming next seasons. Or ninety six not a great
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: looking jersey. I would assume that number is going to
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: change at some point, So that's true. Be careful that
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: he would.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: He's someone who would look really good in it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Eleven like perfect, they don't if they don't give, you know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: maybe give Kate McDonald one and then give him give him.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Talking to J T. T.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Molowow, he was also asked about Edric Houston and the
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: question was framed something to the effect of, uh, j T.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Tyler says Edric has really long arms, and j T
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: looks over Tyler claims like talking about people's arm legs
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: over there and Tyler was like, I was asked, They
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: asked me about it, so I talked about it. But
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: you know, he said, he did say JT said that
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: he had to call him Edrick Houston down before the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: game because he was he was getting very ramped up
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: for his first game as a Buckeye, which is completely understandable,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: and and you know, they got him calmed down and
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: he played well in the fourth quarter and took what happened.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Gaye Powers was also asked about that pick six. Shockingly, Tony,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it was the first thing he was asked.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: About after having an in that old thing. Oh that
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: it was days ago. I don't want to talk about that.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: He was perfectly willing to talk about that.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Surprisingly, he he uh said that as he was running
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in you saw him looking up.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: In the pictures that I have, you can see his
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: eyes looking up. What are you looking at at that point?
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: He said, Well, I was looking at the scoreboard because
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure look at.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: The video board to make sure he wasn't gonna get
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: caught from behind.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: He's he played on an offense in high school as
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: well up in Marysville, and.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You know, so he's comfortable, you know, running with the ball.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: It was a nice catch, but it was.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: A nice It was a nice catch, little juggle made.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They brought it down, caught it on the run, had
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: a nice momentum. Wasn't was not anywhere getting close to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: getting tackled, But yes, was was that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: That was an old Zeke Zeke Elliott move.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Watching the scoreboard and just making just making sure there's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: no one pulling up behind you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: You do not her of your mirrors as a football player.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Uh anything else from J T. Twemloau, No, all good.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: You know, they just want to remain as aggressive as
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: possible and the key to doing that is just doing
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: everything consistently. I mean just every single play doing it.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Don't take any plays off, all of all of the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: coach speak that they hammer into them, technique, effort, consistency,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: all all those things.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: That's what they want to do again this week. Surprise.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I think we've hit everyone who is at my table.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Do you have anyone else that we need?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Will?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I talked to Wilkes America a little bit and people are,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: of course asking, do you think they set up the schedule,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: this non covered schedule for you? Because he got two
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: mac teams and he's coming from Ohio. He's like, no,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think they did, but uh yeah,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So got to talk to him. I asked him, hey,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you know you you you ran a jet sweep in
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: the bowl game last year.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Have you talked to Chip about that? He is, He
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: is not. It's like, I think Chip has enough, you know,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: enough options.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: The skill talent at Ohio State may be slightly better.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Disrespect from our friends and ath.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Well, hey, Sam Wiggles was there, but you know, he
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: was excited about the fact that him and Jelawnie Thurman
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and She's got all played but roughly the same number
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: of snaps. And he was asked, is that you know?
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Is that is that okay? He's like, that's fantastic. Because
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: we're all fresh, we're all able to do different things,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: different packages. So I think they all feel like they're
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: part of the team. And Ryan Day said that they're
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: going to start getting more targets, so that's a concern.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I did go back and look to see how many
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: times last year the tight ends only had one target,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and I think it was just like maybe one game
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: last year where they they only had one target, but
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: mostly they generally have more than that. Because Kate Stewart
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: generally caught the ball, but you would, we would expect
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: More of them being targeted. They Lord knows there's enough
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: of them.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there are. There are plenty of tight ends. And
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: with the wide receiver depth being what it is, you
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: get beyond the top four or so at wide receiver
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and then it gets a little more, you know.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got they've got guys.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: You saw Breston Rodgers for the reception, and I'm sure
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Mylin Graham is going to get worked in there at
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: some point and you cojo Antwetine, all those guys, Jalen,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Jayden Dollard. But there's not six guys who they feel
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: are starting caliber wide receivers this year. And they've got
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: more than one tight end, and you're gonna see some
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: twelve personnel. So yeah, there are definitely gonna be opportunities
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: for the tight ends in the passing game.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And Tony, why wouldn't there be You know what year
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: it is?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: It is the year of the tight end. It is
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It is I just checked.
• 20:13
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• 20:15
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• 20:17
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• 20:20
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• 20:22
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• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Kevin, do we have questions?
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Brian Dodgs, I keep confusing McGuire and McClarty.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, So how do you keep Joe McGuire and Nick
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: McClarty straight if you watch them? Do you know with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: their helmets off, Joe McGuire has like smooth flowing hair.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Nick McLarty kind of has curly hair.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Nick McClarty is also about probably six inches taller, i'm
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: gonna say, than Joe McGuire, So you know, bo both Australians,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: therefore both outstanding at punting. But that's that's how you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: can if you see them on the field or you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: out of uniform, that is how you can.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Tell them apart m mclarger.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Smart.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's up there with my uh no, it's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: better my Noah Rodgers Bryson Rodgers thing from last year,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: which sadly no longer have to keep those.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Two names straight.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: No longer have to keep those no longer.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I yuess right, the Football etxtordinaire.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Do you think Jackson and Simon would be back for
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: the Marshall game.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: So do you think do we think Donovan Jackson and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Cody simonillave back for the Marshall game right now? If
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you are to take Ryan Day at his word, those
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: both guys are day to day. That game is two
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: weeks away. I think there is a very compelling reason
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to if a guy is not one hundred percent right now,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: sit him this weekend. You got the week off next
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: if you don't reaggravate it at that point. If they're
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: day to day now, they should certainly be ready to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: go two weeks from now. So I would be fairly
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: surprised if we saw both of them this weekend. You
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: might see one, but I would be fairly surprised if
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: we saw both of them this weekend. I would be
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: fairly surprised if we didn't see both of them for
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the Marshall game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you put them both out there that way.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: They're not opening their season on the Big Ten, in
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten on the road at Michigan State. Not
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: that we should be concerned about Michigan State, but still
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you would like a run up to.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, well, you'd like you'd like a nice smooth
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: ramp up of Marshall and then Michigan State and then
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Iowa and then Oregon.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: That would you know, that gives you a nice smooth
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: ramp up.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: If you just start at Michigan State, then you're on
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the road, and you know, I don't know that. I
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: think Michigan State is clearly the second best team in
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the state of Michigan.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: This year. We'll see. You don't again, you don't want
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: to overreact to Week one, but.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Week one was not outstanding in East Lansing, So we'll
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: see how that season kind of continues to play it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Smith is going to have that team
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in a pretty good spot in a few years. I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: really like him as a coach. I just don't know
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: if you're one is going to be great?
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Yep, right, next one brig lead Puppy Frog better off
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: season question? Which team is better Ohio State or the
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: first Team All Mac?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So which team is better Ohio State or the first
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Team All MAC? I mean, I have not looked at
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the first Team All Mac from last year particularly closely,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to guess that no more than a
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: handful of those guys are going to get drafted in
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and none of them are going to get
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. So I think, to me,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: that's probably a pretty clear indication that just in terms
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of pure talent, size, speed, all of this sort of measurables.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: It's pretty clear. You know, Ohio State's probably favored by
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: at least a couple of touchdowns against the first team
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: All MAC, assuming the first team All MAC team has
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a full spring and f fall camp.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I mean, you're sort of making things up right now,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: but I don't.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think even that game is a particularly close nail.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Bier No and Western Michigan's running back is all MAC,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: so you'll get a good look at what that is
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And one thing with the Mac is the MAC talent
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: level has really been hit by the transfer portal. I mean,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Lokezmerica is no longer appearing in games for the Ohio
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Bobcats because he's up in Columbus. Nathan Rourke is no
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: longer appearing in games for the Ohio Bobcats because he's
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: in he's the starting quarterback in Indiana.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got you've got a lot of talent
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: drain coming out of the MAC.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And that's that's sort of a unavoidable byproduct of this.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: The talent does go the other way. You mentioned Sam
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Luke Louise earlier. The talent can go the other way.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But if this has I think been a net talent
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: drain on some of the lower level conferences like the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: MAC for sure.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: A little bit of news from myself, walk On linebacker
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Joey Blasquez loses his black stripe.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: All right, so walk On linebacker Joey velaska Is loses
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: his black stripe. He's someone who has been closer to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the rotation than you might have expected. It felt like
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: at times during fall camp. I don't think did he
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: play it all on Saturday. I don't think that he did.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: But you know, he's someone who obviously interesting story there.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: He was going to come to Ohio State as baseball player,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: got a football offer.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: From Michigan, went to Michigan to play football for a.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Few years, won a national title, then came back to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Ohiveh State to play football. It is a transition that
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: not not everyone I think would be able to make.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: But you know that that's he's someone who you're you're
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not going to see him starting this year, but you
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: could see him in some kind of contributing role on
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: special teams.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Or something like that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And he also was part of the latest A College
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Football Update.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, he went and put his name in and got
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: his five hundred bucks or whatever. So good for him.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: How quickly do we see that tunnel screen TOJJ?
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, we were joking about that right
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: before we hit we went live that that you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: you could just come right back with it, because it
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: sure as heck looked like it was going to work
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: last week, it feels and now it's on film, so
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I guess people are going to be looking.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: For it to a certain degree.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But come and go.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can, you can, you know, iterate off
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: of it. But even if it doesn't go sixty yards
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: this time, do it again, run it again?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: You might he might just be able to out athlete
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the guys in the Western Michigan Secondary I don't think
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: there's a bad way to get him the ball in
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: space and just say see where the field turns, right
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: back down there, take it there.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: You know, we joke about the bold predictions with him,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: and they're going to get outlandish. I can't even set
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: a touchdown line at zero point five. No overs, you
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: have to be at one point five before you even
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: start thinking about it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's so far going over.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Why would you go under?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: You know, he's so far going going over that and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the games in his career, so.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: It's he's ridiculous start at this point.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Kyle Warner prediction for this game. Oh boy.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Score prediction for the Western Michigan game. I know it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a thirty eight point line. I have given this absolutely
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: no thought. Have you sent in a score prediction.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've not sent my score prediction in yet, but
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I've got it, got it written down.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Well I will.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I will give you one, and I'm not going to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent commit to it, because I've really given
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: this no thought so far. But I'll go with Ohio
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: State forty two, Western Michigan.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Six.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I went fifty two again, and I believe I went thirteen.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: So let me see here. Yeah, fifty two thirteen is
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: what I went with. I'm just trying to make sure
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I know I went fifty. I'm sticking with fifty two
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: until they don't get it. Okay, So that feels like
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: it's pretty smart. Fifty two to ten.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Ten, all right, boom blowout. Not a big believer in
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the Ohio State defense.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: No, this is a pick six.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Not a big believer in the Ohio State offense, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: am not, says Kevin says forty that I don't recall.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Not a big believer in jaydie fielded.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Anything else?
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Are we think we are.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Covers market x not the Ohio State covers and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: think it is thirty eight.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So it's that's that is a reasonable That is a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: reasonable thing.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Because it is this is a season where you've seen
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams kind of strangle the life out
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the clock. To a certain degree, it would not
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: surprise me if Western Michigan did try to do that
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: at times against Ohio State. They were surprisingly good against
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin last week. So this is this is definitely going
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to be a step up in competition. If you're not
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you're not going from Akron to Alabama, but you're going
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: from you're going from bottom of the MAC to at
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: least middle of the MAC, which is it's a step forward.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And again, as we said, it's good for Ohio State
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to see Western Michigan give Wisconsin the game because there
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: is such respect for Wisconsin in this building. And you've
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: also got Willksmrick, you know, preach the good news of
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: the mac like, hey, we've got players there.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: He's evidence of that, all right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: So we will be there on Saturday night for the
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: first primetime game of the season for the Ohis State Buckeyes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Very likely not the last, but we will be there
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in the Horseshoe Saturday night for the Buckeyes and the Broncos.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Tony Kevin and I will be there.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I have full coverage at bucke huddle dot com and
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of course at YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle as well.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Lots of pre game coverage, lots of postgame coverage. Those
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: primetime postgame shows always get real, real lively, which is
• 29:33
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• 29:35
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• 29:36
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• 29:38
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• 29:40
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• 29:42
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• 29:45
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• 29:48
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• 29:50
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