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05. Housekeeping and Hovercrafts: The Knickerbocker Hotel and America's First Flying Saucers · Amigos, Afraid!

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Welcome back. Welcome to the Daily BJ Podcast.
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Have you had your daily BJ? If not, you're about to welcome
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back, friends. Welcome back to Episode 37.
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This is not episode 37. It's not.
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Nope, I I don't know what conversations are recorded now
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so I am just going based off of the number of interactions we've
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had since the last episode. You say that, but it's actually
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been far and few between. We have not seen each other
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since. We have not.
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We were just talking about that. Thursday since D&D Day, which
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was fun. The state of our current D&D
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party, like our D&D sessions, are getting more and more fun
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every single time we play. It's been a blast and it's super
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exciting. The role play has been 10 out of
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10. The fighting has been creepy and
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10 out of 10. Yeah, it we, I loved our last
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DND party, but I think the campaign just made it so like
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stressful and not and we weren't really able to like plan ahead
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of what we needed to do because it was so much drama.
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There was no planning and and like no offense to anyone in the
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group, I think because we were new, because they were just like
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the campaign itself was a horror campaign.
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It was hard to plan anything because you couldn't trust
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anyone. No.
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And we couldn't trust each other.
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Honestly, yes, there was a big level of distrust amongst
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people. Everyone had some crazy
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backstories. This new one, this one we're
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doing right now is a lot more light hearted.
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It's a little silly, but still it has some high stakes.
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Yeah, it's it's been fun. I'm excited to play tomorrow.
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We're recording this Tuesday, but we we'll be playing
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tomorrow. No, it's Thursday.
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We're doing this on Thursday, we're releasing this on
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Thursday. Yeah, guys, we actually record
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this like Thursday morning and immediately post.
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It exactly. It's just that's, that's what we
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want to give y'all. Y'all deserve that.
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So we're doing that. Yeah, if you're like the first
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listener, you're practically listening to it live.
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Basically kind of creepy if you think about it.
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Someone, someone reached out to me in person.
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I don't know who I saw. I might have been.
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I think it was Gabe that they're like, dude, I love your podcast.
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That he's like, yeah, I'm just, I'm listening to you right now
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and it's so fun. And also I want to give this
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person a shout out who left a bunch of comments.
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What? Do you know who that is?
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I have not checked my phone, I think it locked me out last time
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I checked. Let me pull up the name Paula
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has been a a common commentator. She's commented on a couple who
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has commented. Gloria commented, but this
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person commented on like 2 episodes back-to-back.
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Cephas under score 97. You have any idea who that would
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be? I have no idea.
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Me neither, but Cephas under score 97.
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Thank you so much for listening, he said on our episode #2 Cock
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Your Hole. Very informative.
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Not sure how I have gone through life without understanding these
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facts and events. You know what it's it's, it's
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the least we can do. And I appreciate that we're like
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being heard and we're reaching a new audience out there that, you
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know, benefiting from this. So I appreciate that.
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Sefas under score 97 Yeah, Thank you.
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Best podcast I've I have ever listened to.
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Dude, if we ever get nominated for something sefas you're we're
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mentioning you in our acceptance speech.
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Yeah, yeah. And if you want to reach out
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just to like, you know, uncover your mystery identity, let us
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know. Unsheathe yourself.
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Wait, wait, wait. What is he unsheathing?
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This is velvet. Listen.
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Steel. Velvet.
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What is it? Velvet.
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Velvet. Cheat the steel anyways.
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I don't know. How have you been?
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Good. I had a very, very, very busy
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weekend, but it was really fun. Cool.
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Happy Mother's Day. Oh yeah, it was Mother's Day.
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Happy. Mother's Day weekend happy.
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Belated Mother's Day. Yeah, we did wish you guys a
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Happy Mother's Day. Yes, we did the episode before
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but now we are mentioning again a couple of days out.
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Hope you guys have celebrated. What did you do to celebrate?
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We went with we took this, so I got out to have breakfast and
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then we went to the Huntington Museum and Garden when it was
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105° outside. Oh, you're so brave for that.
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The museums were air conditioned.
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They were really nice. The art displays were super
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cool. I forgot what one of the
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artist's name. He's at La like local.
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So he's, he's been around. He's like 8090 something now.
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Search it up someone, please. Super fun, super cool.
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And yeah. Then then Sunday took my mom and
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my family to have breakfast. Chill.
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Also super hot, I bet. But we had a great time.
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Because we're Mexican, there's two days of Mother's Day,
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Saturday's the other Las Madres, and then Sunday is Mother's Day.
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So you got to, if you don't see one on Saturday, you got to at
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least mention it via text. Give them a call.
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Dual citizenship, baby. They got to get celebrated.
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On Sunday we we had like a little get together with my mom
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and my Diaz and my mom sends me a bunch of Facebook memes like
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videos. Of course I.
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Don't have Facebook, neither do I and.
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I tell her every time, like mom, I I don't have Facebook so she
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then plays them for me in person and she played me this very long
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skit. It's this one guy.
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I don't remember his name but my mom's like me.
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Who? He reminds me of you every time.
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It's the Daily BJ, it's my podcast.
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And I was, she was showing it to me.
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And it was the guy like celebrating his mom on the on on
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the Saturday and was got her a bunch of gifts, took her
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shopping, got her a car, ends the day.
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And she's like, oh, OK, So what are you going to do for me
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tomorrow? And the guy's like what?
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She's like, yeah, tomorrow for Mother's Day, because today was,
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yeah, that's tomorrow's actual Mother's Day.
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And he's like, I spent all my money.
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I don't know, My, my mom was laughing.
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She's like, that's so funny me whole.
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She's like, I'm like, what are you in?
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Jab, jab, jab. That's so funny.
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Yeah, if only you would do that for me.
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Take me shopping, buy me a car, Buy.
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Me a car? Yeah, two days.
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Buy me two cars. That was fun.
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I think the older I get, the more I want to like, like, get
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to know family stories 'cause even my brother said sometimes
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like, oh, why didn't you tell us that story about, like, some
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family member who did something? Yeah.
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She's like, Amiko, you were so young when it happened.
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Like, you weren't involved. You had no reason to know so.
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But it's nice. Nice hearing the the cheese
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myths and the dramas. Understand what was going on,
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Yeah. Like, oh, you ever wondered why
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so and so doesn't like so and so?
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Here's why, And it's the craziest story you've ever
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heard. Dude, every family has that.
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And you know, girl, getting older, you do get some of those
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stories and you're like, damn, like fuck them.
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You know, like I totally get it. And and it's only one side of
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the story, so who knows what the reality.
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Is but the side of the story is the right.
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Side the right side, yeah for sure.
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But has a. It's a trick.
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She's a muscle as I will go in the got the other side of the
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veins. It is in the veins.
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Let me make my own decisions. Yeah, let me hear both sides and
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I'll I'll find the truth somewhere in the middle.
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Additionally to that, I've been throwing around the idea to my
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mom that we need to have a day where all Mike Diaz gather their
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kids can come to my cousins and bring like the photo books and
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just everyone bring them out, look at them, talk about
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memories. I feel like that would be.
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Such a good, that's wholesome and that's like, that's quality
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time, you know, 'cause then it's people that or family that you
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don't get to talk to on a daily basis and get to spend that time
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just reminiscing about the past and looking at the pictures and,
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you know, you look so little. Oh my God, yeah, it's, it's
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great. It's great.
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Do you remember, like on one of the days we were hanging out and
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you mentioned or we were like gonna play fight or something
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and I was like, Jerry, no, don't hit me.
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He's like, what? You didn't get down.
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Yes. When you were younger, Yes.
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And I was like, no, not really. Like only with my brother.
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Yeah. And then he was like, oh, you
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see, he's not like that. And he's like, and Jerry is
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like. He just said he finds.
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His brother. My cat on Sunday pulled out a
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photo where I'm mid like yanking my brother about to like punch
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him. That counts.
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That counts. It's just it's in our nature,
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you know, it's in boys nature, I think and and I'm not trying to
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like. It's in, yeah.
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Brothers. It's a brothers thing.
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Yeah, I have three brothers. I have two brothers.
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It's three of us. It's going to happen like, and
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then when you're sharing rooms, it's going to happen when you
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like. He took my my shirt and then
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it's yeah, it's it's universal. That's my point.
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Do. You remember the last time you
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got in like an altercation with your with one of your brothers?
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Yeah, when we lived in Mexico, in, in Tijuana, Yeah, I remember
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there was like late. I mean, we would cross the
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border every day so we'd get back.
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And then we started fighting in the car, I think.
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And then we got to we got to our to our apartment.
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And then my parents went outside with the neighbors because now
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they got to talk it up. And then, yeah, we were just in
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there. And then I forgot what he said.
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And he like threw my iPod on the ground and it was like cracked.
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And then like we just got at it. We were like pushing each other.
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Then my little brother woke up and then we were like, like
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socking each other. Yeah, it was just it just handed
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my parents. Like, what are you guys doing?
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Oh my. God, flashbacks.
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That was like years ago. I mean, I was probably like a
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freshman in high school. Yeah, it was been a long time.
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Yeah. Honestly, like on the past, like
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high school, like in high school, never again.
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It was mostly like elementary school until like middle school.
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Yeah. Damn.
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What'd you do Saturday or Friday in the two days I didn't see you
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aside from that? What did I do Friday?
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Dang, what did you do Friday? Let me, let me, let me remind.
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Myself, well since we last recorded saw Beyoncé, we took
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the girls. I I took the girls on the last
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minute Beyoncé concert trip on Wednesday.
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Dude, amazing show. It sounded 10 at a time.
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It was so good we were in like the cheap Nosebleed seats.
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Like who cares? We were up there with the Lord.
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I've never been that like high without being like in a plane.
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I was winded going up the stairs to find her seeds.
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The girl behind me and Melissa was like wait, I still haven't
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caught my breath yet. Give me.
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A second OH. That was like girl, save that.
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'D be me too. And then Friday I had game night
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with friends and then Saturday I had work.
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But after that, it was Gabe's birthday.
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Happy birthday, Gabe. Happy.
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Birthday, Gabe. Thank you for listening.
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What if he's Seth as 97? No.
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Oh, he might be. He's, I think a year younger
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than me. I think he just turned 27.
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I don't know. I don't know, actually, never
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mind. Unless it is, unmask yourself.
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Sepas 97, we're coming for you. We know your IP.
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Address We know your IP. I don't know what I did Friday.
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I went to work and then I left work and then I think we might
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have just stayed in and watched the movie or we went to the
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movies or What did I do? Friday?
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We cleaned. I know that for sure.
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I know we cleaned. Yes, I think that's it because I
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called you. Yeah, I think we just cleaned
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and then you said you were getting ready for for my my
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swagger to come. And I think that was it.
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I think that was it. I'm going to like, we're going
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to finish the episode. I'm going to remember.
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And then I was like, damn, I did.
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I jumped off a skyscraper. And yeah.
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Anyways. I mean I guess whatever it is
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wasn't important. Fast forward literally a week
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from now and you're like Oh my God my first born was born that
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day. Yeah, I was like, shit, how was
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today? Fuck, I forgot.
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They'll hear this eventually. Yep, I will.
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I think that's all I have to update you on.
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Oh I had AI, went to a bartending class yesterday.
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Oh, how's that? It was fun.
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I went with a cousin of the night, friend Carlos.
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We you know, I'm helping out Alan and his small business, his
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bartending beer. You can name his business, They
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We Brew. It's beer barrel.
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Check him out on Instagram. They do Michelalas, they do
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different like alcohol. They're we're starting, they're
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starting. He's starting to expand with
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like open bar and everything but he wants.
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To do like mixed drinks, mixed drinks so hence the.
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Hence class. Yeah, the bartending class.
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So he met a dude at one of my cousin's parties.
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Super cool guy, super chill. I will also put his information
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on the bottom. I forgot.
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I don't have his card. But yeah, he just like he was
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teaching us theory dude. Like he was like, he, he really
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loves what he does. Like he has a shaker tattooed on
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him and a Oh my God, cocktail spoon tattooed on him.
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And just the way he like talks about bartending and like
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service and all that stuff. It's he's legit.
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We made four mixed drinks, a pina colada, a mojito, a Moscow
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Mule and a martini. A OK, what kind of martini?
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Traditional martini, it was shaken, I believe, or or stirred
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and then double strained. Gin martini, Olive dude, I've
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never had a martini. I've had a I've had a espresso
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martini. It was one of my go to's.
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But a traditional martini was good dude with an olive tan out
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of like 10 out of 10. I'm not even kidding.
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That was a really good drink. It was fun one.
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Of these podcasts, would you make us drinks?
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One of these podcasts I will make us drinks for sure.
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Let me know what you need. I'll I'll I'll provide since we
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record here, I'll provide the the cool I need and and we'll
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have a drink. We'll have taste testers, we'll
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have like. Have a live audience and they'll
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be tasting them with us. You can give us their reviews
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that sounds. Fun.
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I like it. That's a good idea, Teach.
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Me how to mix a drink? I have notes.
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OK, OK, I have notes. Someone write that down and then
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text. It to us, let us know what.
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We don't forget because I'm not taking notes.
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I'm what's it called? Summer.
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Summer break? Summer vacation's almost around
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the corner. So Oh yeah.
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Wait so you really just chill or do you work?
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During the summer, I'm going to be working over the summer.
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Yeah, I found a district that's going to be working cool for
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summer, so I'll be working there.
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Nice. Good, collect your paycheck.
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I have secured employment for summer.
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OK. All right, it's time.
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So last week we were supposed to come at you with our paranormal
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episode. We did it. the Renaissance Fair
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took importance. We had to share.
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Yeah, it was a pleasure. Yes dude, I was pleasured at the
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Ren Fair. Ain't that crazy.
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I might go again, Jerry on the 18th.
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Go again. I'm throwing around the idea I.
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Don't know what I'm doing the 18th but do it.
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I mentioned it to to some of the gays on Saturday.
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If you have not gone, please go. Well, I told them, just said
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he'd be interested, Jesse said. Andrew said he'd also be
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interested, but Jesse said he my friend Jesse.
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He's. Really cool.
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He's like, he sounds Nintendo. He works out all the time.
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He has a partner named Eli. Both of them absolutely
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gorgeous. Super, super, super sweet.
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He said he would. He wants to go, but he has a
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vision of dressing up like a very specific Link costume from
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Legend of Zelda. I don't want to take that away
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from him. Like you have your vision,
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understand? Understandable.
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I I remember seeing the the link that was walking around when we
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went This is Eli. No, no, Jesse.
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Jesse, I know for a fact Jesse's link idea is going to be like 10
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times better. He like, I'll show you his
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Instagram. He throws around like kind of
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like kind of like loosely based cosplay things.
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It's really good. He's very talented.
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That's awesome. Do it.
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Anyways, do it again. The Renaissance Fair is just so
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important to us these days. It is.
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Yes, it is. But this week we are we're
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coming back with the supernatural, supernatural
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episode. So do you wanna forward that
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this is we, we did research. We're not coming at you with
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just like, Oh yeah, we. I saw a TikTok I saw.
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A TikTok like oh guys I saw this on TikTok.
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We looked for sources to provide facts.
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But also this is the first time I've done any kind of like I
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would say it like research project essay writing since some
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point in high school like undergrad high school or
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undergrad college. Sorry, like the first the first
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two years of. College, yeah, where you like
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you had to do those assignments and mandatory ones for your like
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your GES and stuff your. APA format and everything.
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I'll tell you this, in high school, when there was like a
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research assignment or like, you know, whatever, I, I didn't do
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it. I didn't do it.
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OK, can't blame me. So this was fun.
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It was fun because. I think when you find that one
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thing that you're like, wow, this is really interesting.
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And then deep dive and then start like pulling different
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sources and kind of matching everything.
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It was pretty fun. It was pretty fun and, and
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honestly, it didn't take me that long.
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It wasn't like like. I agree it was like an hour and
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a half. It was.
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It was pretty easy, OK. Super flowy.
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We haven't told each other what we're talking about.
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Nope, just that we're doing something supernatural.
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Something that's like natural but like super.
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Yeah, like something normal, but like above it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, if you're not like
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superstitious, just like a little stitches, like this is
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your this is your episode. Yes.
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And if you guys like it, we will, we will do like a fully
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like the entire podcast will just be like that topic and we
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will both the research and bring information to the table.
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Yeah, although I do have a lot of, you know, source facts and
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and accounts of whatever happened for this day.
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It was it's pretty short. It's summarizing, Yeah.
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So a deep dive with more time if you all want it, yes, can be
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done. Yes, we're also, I'm going to go
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a little crazy with the editing. So by this point, hopefully
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you're listening to some spooky music in the background.
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Alien noises now cool. I'm going to have to search for
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alien noises I didn't look for any earlier.
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Do you want this? I guess I'll go first because I
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just said what I was going to do.
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OK, God. OK, I'll no you go.
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OK. Are you sure?
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Yeah, I'm sure we can flip a coin.
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OK. No, you go first.
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But I I'll, I'll tell you what I researched, OK?
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I researched this. I was gonna do ghosts and I was
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gonna find, like, haunted places in in, like, LA And I was so
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invested by one specific place that I just wrote about the
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history of this place, OK? It's called the Knickerbocker
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Hotel. In LA.
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In LA, In Hollywood specifically.
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Amazing. So this is like a little history
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lesson of just scary things that happen, spooky, like scary, just
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things that make it like a a mysterious place.
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OK, wow. I mean, if it's in Hollywood, an
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old Hollywood building like Bury, oh, there's some shit that
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went on there. OK, well, I'm glad that you went
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with more of the paranormal vibe because as mentioned, I went
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ahead and did it. Aliens, I'm so excited.
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Aliens, Extraterrestress. This was fun because there was
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so much on Aliens and like there's so much new things that
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are coming out with UFOs and whatever, UF TS or AB CS,
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whatever they're called nowadays.
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But I was like, no, like I want to know when and what was the
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first sighting in the US like in like the modern, like I guess
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era, not not know like 1650 something where this like I
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don't know mine worker. No, like I went as early as
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possible with like trace of information that is like not
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that long ago and all of my searching.
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I'm breathing so hard because I'm that excited.
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OK, I'm excited too. My research and my findings
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proved to be out of this world. Insert alien noises.
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So exactly what does it sound like?
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A animal farm? Animal Crossing?
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Animal Crossing? Animal Crossing?
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So so you've heard of UFOs right?
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It's a universal term. UFO.
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Yeah, there's a new name, right? Yeah, I think so.
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It's like UEPS or unidentified, I don't know, whatever flying
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saucer, I think it's one of the like the first terms that I've
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ever heard, like a flying saucer or whatever.
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The flying saucer came to light 1947 and I picked this and it
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matched up perfectly because on June 24th, which is like in two
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weeks. Oh my God, yeah. 1947, almost 77
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years ago, a man by the name of Kenneth Arnold who was an
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experienced pilot has flown over like 4000 flight hours or
21:09
whatever the that term is. He witnessed the first, if not
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the one of the first, live. Just like flying objects in the
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sky. Yeah, yeah, just flying.
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Objects. So the first aliens it.
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Was the first time. And so the story goes.
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I'm really nervous, guys, OK. Don't be, it's literally just me
21:33
too. No dude, this is.
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There's thousands of people hearing.
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I forgot, I forgot. I don't.
21:37
Know how many aliens are are listening?
21:39
It's going to. Make a really bad joke.
21:43
Go on. Do it.
21:44
No, Nope. Nope.
21:46
OK, well, our friend our our friend Kenneth Arnold.
21:48
Kenny. Our friend Kenny, he was on his
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way to Chehalis, WA. Oh, so this is the United
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States? This.
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Is in the US OK OK, so he was headed to an air show in
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Pendleton, OR. That's already spooky.
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He was like, cool, I'm on my way.
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He had his own little like personal plane.
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I bet I wrote down the name somewhere, a Cal Air A2, a
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little light aircraft. Anyways, he was on his way to
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Oregon and he was like, cool, I'm going to make a quick fuel
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stop in Yakima. Yakima.
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Yakima, Oh, I forgot to mention he was a little business owner.
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He had a It's called the Great Western Fire Control Supply I.
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Don't think your mic is facing you.
22:32
I'm so sorry. There you go.
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It's not. It's not.
22:35
It was not facing me. That's how nervous I am, guys.
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Western Fire Control Supply in Boise, ID, where he sold and
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installed fire suppression systems, But that job took him
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to the PNW, the Pacific Northwest.
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Northwest. OK, our story takes place in
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Mount Rainier. Famous, famous Washington
22:58
Mountain. We've seen Mountain Rainier.
23:00
Yeah, it's a volcano. OK, so he was also a member of
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the Idaho Search and Rescue Unit.
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So and that's important. I'll bring it up in.
23:08
OK, so he's flying, he's on his way to Washington around I think
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it was in Washington where he was also keeping an eye out for
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AUS Marine Corps transport plane that had recently crashed.
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There was 32 Marines on board, so he was like, cool.
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Well, he's part of the search and rescue team in Idaho.
23:29
What if I start looking for this plane question?
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Yeah, so search and rescue like what?
23:34
Like what is he searching and rescuing?
23:35
Like fallen? Just planes?
23:37
Yeah, well, his her search and rescue team, I think in Idaho he
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was, he had his own plane. So he can like, oh, just if.
23:42
Anyone goes missing? Yeah, OK, so he was part of a
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team that does that. But because this just happened
23:47
in Washington, he was like, cool, well, maybe I can like
23:50
find this planes or spot it this, this wreckage and possibly
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earn himself a $5000 reward. Oh, this?
23:57
Was and this was the what time? This was 1947.
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I'll find out how much that is now.
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OK. How much was it?
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$5000 So this was 1947. OK.
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So he was like, I'm gonna make a quick little coin.
24:08
I'm gonna make some money. You know, I'm already flying
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there. I might as well just, you know,
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make a little, make a little. Take a glance here, take a
24:14
glance here. Look for this plane crash.
24:18
So he was flying. Did you find it?
24:19
Go. $71,000. Imagine that, I mean, if you had
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your own plane and you're just casually flying over this
24:26
possible wreckage area, why would you not look, you know,
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keep. An eye, Yeah, For your chance of
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71 grand. OK.
24:32
So my man was smart. My man was smart.
24:34
Oh, Kenny, I like you. So he was flying near Mount
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Rainier. It was around 3:00 PM.
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He saw a bright flash in the sky.
24:43
At first he thought it was a sunlight bouncing off another
24:45
plane, but then more flashes appeared.
24:48
This time they formed a formation.
24:51
There was 9 shiny disc like objects moving rapidly across
24:55
the sky. These objects flew in a loose
24:58
echelon formation, which is like a like a, like a military
25:01
formation so that you know, they had some sort of.
25:04
They were rich, Yeah, Upper echelon.
25:05
Exactly. They moved erratically, they
25:08
were flipping, they were weaving, he quotes.
25:12
It looked like the tail of a Chinese kite.
25:14
He estimated their speed and this is where it was kind of
25:16
like, you know, the different sources at different numbers of
25:19
the speed, somewhat like 700 mph.
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Oh my God, This one, which was the I think it was like the Air
25:25
and Space Museum was he mentioned saying it was going,
25:29
they were going at least 1200 mph, nearly twice the speed of
25:33
any aircraft known at the time. This was months before Chuck
25:36
Yeager broke the sound barrier with the Bell X1.
25:40
So this was still before you know any historic speed or
25:45
airplane aircraft? Speed.
25:46
I believe him. He described the objects as
25:48
circular, about 100 feet wide, no visible tails.
25:52
And in his in his official report to the US Air Force, he
25:56
sketched a shape that looked more like a heel or like a
25:58
pancake rather than a saucer. So this connects to the flying
26:02
saucer. Shape.
26:04
It was like flat shape like a. Flat shape.
26:06
Circular disk. Like a circular disk, almost
26:08
like this, like 1/2 pancake. So like at the time there was a
26:12
prototype aircraft that was round that it was like a round
26:17
shape. Yeah, I'll show you that later,
26:18
too. It's it's it's like, yeah, it
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looks pretty basic, but it looks it looks funky.
26:22
So he never actually used the term flying saucer to describe
26:25
what he saw at first. He told his story to reporters
26:29
for the East Oregonian newspaper.
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And the very next day, one of them, I guess one of the
26:35
reporters, Nolan Skiff, described the objects as a
26:38
saucer like aircraft. A follow up wire story used the
26:41
phrase nine bright saucer like objects and bam, just like that,
26:46
the flying saucer was like the headline and it took off.
26:49
It was literally just like a game of telephone.
26:51
Yeah, yeah. So it was never his intention to
26:54
call them flying saucers. It's just a description that was
26:56
interpreted by reporters that started using the saucer.
26:59
And it and it it took people were like, what?
27:01
Flying saucers in the sky? Yep.
27:03
What? What?
27:04
What's a saucer? So it's like sauce, you know,
27:08
like marinara sauce. Oh my God.
27:12
It's literally like a plate. Yeah, it's literally, that's
27:14
what it looks like. That's literally a saucer.
27:16
Saucer. Just a plate.
27:18
So you know, he was called by radio host.
27:21
He was interviewed anytime. Any chance people got a hold of
27:24
him? He did say that it was kind of
27:27
annoying at 1st and he was overwhelming.
27:30
He wasn't built for the he wasn't built for celebrity
27:32
lifestyle. He just wanted to make his coin,
27:34
find the plane, retire early. You know, the Chicago Sun ran a
27:40
headline. The supersonic flying saucer is
27:41
cited by Idaho pilot. It was just one of the, like,
27:44
the many headlines at the time. So despite the fame, once again,
27:49
he wasn't too thrilled about the spotlight.
27:51
Decades, decades later, he stated that he faced
27:55
embarrassment due to misquotes and misinformation that followed
27:58
him through years. So any bad publicity is good.
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You know what I mean? Yeah.
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You just can't even know that it's OK.
28:07
And that was the story of the flame.
28:08
Of the of the of the 1st. Of the 1st.
28:12
Blind saucer in quotations. So of course, because this was
28:17
the first of first of its time, one-of-a-kind story aliens, this
28:22
guy's crazy. There's going to be skeptics.
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There's going to be, you know, the government intervening of
28:27
like, hey, let's not freak out the public.
28:30
So here are several military officials and researchers
28:35
offering explanations. All that time, so like this
28:38
story goes out on a Monday, by Tuesday morning the government
28:42
is saying. And there's, yeah, people,
28:43
skeptics, everything. Some of them are grounded in
28:46
science. Others are just, you know,
28:48
skeptics. Skepticism.
28:49
Because I said so. Yeah, yeah.
28:51
Who is this guy? OK, so here are a couple
28:53
military officials that were trying to prove it wrong.
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So we have officials at the McCord Army Field.
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This is near Tacoma, WA, so near the area.
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Their theory was that the objects Arnold saw might have
29:05
been AP80 jet fighter or P80A series of P80 jet fighters,
29:11
which were the first operational jet aircraft.
29:15
The McCord officers noted that the nearest base with P 80s was
29:20
March Field in California, around 600 miles away, the
29:25
distance the P80 could cover in about an hour.
29:29
So from California to Washington, this.
29:30
Aircraft and he did say he saw the the plane flying at like.
29:34
Double like normal planes. Crazy, crazy speed.
29:38
OK, but I'm looking at pictures right now that is not disc
29:41
shaped. Exactly.
29:43
So that's a plane, their reasoning.
29:46
So this matters because they were trying to match Arnold's
29:48
description with a known military aircraft, suggesting A
29:52
conventional explanation. They were just like, no, no need
29:55
to freak out everyone. Cover them.
29:56
It's cover rough. Another Lieutenant Lieutenant
30:00
Colonel Harry R Turner, he's a commander at the White Sands
30:06
probing ground probing and that's proving in New Mexico.
30:13
His viewpoint said that the sighting was consistent with jet
30:16
aircraft, again pointing towards a man made explanation do.
30:20
You see if I'm lying to you. So he, it's relevant because he
30:24
says that there was a major testing site in New Mexico for
30:28
advanced aircrafts and missiles. So Turner's opinion carried
30:32
technical weight. So because he probably worked in
30:34
a classified area, he was like, no, no, this is just one of our.
30:37
Yeah, this stuff exists like we have it, so we won't show you,
30:40
but we have it. But we have it, you know, maybe
30:42
they do, maybe they did at the time, but.
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No, we would have seen it by now.
30:46
It's been like how many years? You said like 87080 years.
30:49
Almost 77 years. This is a Army response to the
30:53
Portland sightings. But Jerry saw blessed that he
30:56
stood up. I stood up.
30:57
No, I also almost got a cramp. So Army officials pointed out
31:03
that 24 P80 fighters. So once again, that same
31:06
aircraft, P80 fighters and six bombers had flown over Portland.
31:10
At the time, residents reported seeing discs.
31:14
OK, residents, but it's not residents.
31:15
It was Kenny. He was trying to debunk reports
31:19
of mysterious flying objects by tying them to a scheduled
31:22
military fly over. No, they made that up.
31:26
No, no, no, no, no. This is Stuart Campbell, a
31:29
Scottish science writer and UFO skeptic.
31:32
His theory was that Arnold may have seen mirages of distant
31:35
snow covered peaks in the Cascade Range.
31:39
I'm rolling my eyes. He calculated the speed of the
31:41
objects to match Arnold's aircraft, suggesting they were
31:44
stationary illusions caused by temperature inversions.
31:49
That's no he saw them moving. No, you don't even know what
31:52
you're talking about. How are you?
31:54
How is he going to see them moving faster than his plane and
31:58
they're going to say it was? Oh, it was shit.
32:00
It was a. Trick of your eyesight.
32:03
No Philip J Class A well known UFO debunker and aviation
32:08
journalist. Imagine that's your title.
32:10
I'm a UFOD bunker. I'm a well known UFO debunker.
32:13
I'm the most well known debunker of UFOs.
32:16
So he's claiming that Arnold might have misidentified meteor
32:20
striking across the sky. Oh, they're stretching.
32:25
They're reaching. And then he reached out to a
32:27
journalist. Key Davidson.
32:29
That's key. EAY, OK sure.
32:32
Sure of the San Francisco Examiner no free publicity to
32:40
back up the meteor activity. So the theory and last one last
32:44
but not least, James Easton, UFO researcher and sceptic.
32:49
He claims that Arnold may have seen Pelicans in flight.
32:54
Pelicans moving at 12 hundred, 700 mph Pelicans Pelicans have
33:02
large wingspans, pale underbellies that reflects
33:05
sunlight, and a flight profile that can resemble Crescent
33:08
shapes, especially when soaring at high altitude.
33:10
I'm rolling my eyes. Listen so hard.
33:12
Yeah, they were birds. As a bird aficionado.
33:15
Jerry's a bird expert, I would say.
33:17
If I'm on a plane and I see a Pelican, I'm not going to
33:23
compare a Pelican to a disc, A saucer, OK, that's 100 feet
33:28
wide. OK, no, OK.
33:32
They were flying information formation.
33:34
What do birds do? They find formation.
33:36
They do fly information. Do we know if there was
33:38
Pelicans? That's their flight path?
33:40
Like are are they migrating? How low was he to the ground?
33:45
By Mount Rainier, I don't think a lot of.
33:47
Birds are no it's cold. It's.
33:49
Cold, you know, I mean it was June, so it was June maybe a
33:52
little hotter, but still it's Mount Rainier is pretty sure
33:55
it's freezing. And if there is flight paths,
33:58
you know, around the the Washington area, I still don't
34:01
think a Pelican or a, a series of nine Pelicans can be mistaken
34:05
for a flying UFO. Yeah.
34:08
So that was like my story and I, I had a lot of fun researching
34:12
it. And sorry y'all, it was a little
34:14
a little choppy there. But no, that was so informative.
34:17
Yeah, it was fun. It was fun researching.
34:18
And now I know that was the first US sighting.
34:20
Jerry, I've never heard of this before today.
34:23
Flying saucers now I know now. Flying saucers Sensationalized.
34:26
Sensationalized by The Oregonian.
34:29
Who was it? The The Seattle Times?
34:32
The. OK, yeah, so I looked at the
34:33
Seattle Times. This was the National Air and
34:36
Space Museum. I did use some wiki.
34:38
I know, guys. My bad.
34:40
No, but that was mostly for like, just like the skeptic, the
34:43
skeptics. Who cares?
34:44
Who cares? This is my pocket.
34:45
Listen, you're listening to this for free.
34:47
Nothing we say is concrete fact. And there's, there's once again,
34:51
if you go back and you find another source that says, well,
34:54
actually there's a lot of different numbers, there's a lot
34:57
of different things out there that might have, you know, heard
35:02
a different story and whatever. So yeah, the video I saw was, I
35:07
think it was History Pod, 2 minute video just to get, you
35:11
know, a little briefing of it. But it was fun.
35:13
Dang, this was 19. You said 1947.
35:15
Yeah, not so long ago. No, like they had cameras at
35:18
this point probably like black and white or or sepia or what
35:23
sepia like. You call me?
35:25
Listen, I'm not in the, I'm not one of those people that says
35:29
slurious. I mean, granted, he's probably
35:34
the only one on his plane. I'm just thinking like, how do
35:37
you like, all he has is his word.
35:41
So I understand why people will find it so easy to be skeptical
35:43
'cause it's like, oh, this man just.
35:45
Like it's gonna happen no matter what he.
35:46
Has no proof. Like he said he'd saw them and
35:49
then the newspaper, like, made it bigger than what it was.
35:53
Yeah, I believe it though. You know, but then again, like
35:56
if we're talking about cryptids that are like a well known
35:58
things throughout the whole country and yeah, Oregon,
36:02
Washington, like aliens are just, you know, just a part of
36:06
the. They have to exist.
36:08
We are so small in the grand scheme of things, we're just
36:11
like a dust. Yes, we are.
36:12
And you know, look, we don't have to look at outer space to
36:14
think about aliens. We could look at our oceans to
36:16
look about to to think about aliens that we have.
36:19
Here real scare, I have an octopus.
36:21
Tattooed on me Now that isn't an alien.
36:23
It they look like them. They are.
36:25
I was watching octopus tik toks today of this guy who would put
36:28
his hand in and the octopus was playing with him by like just
36:32
suctioning on for dear life. That did not look like playing.
36:34
That looked like it was. And each one of those arms has a
36:37
brain. Crazy.
36:38
What? That's a different episode guys,
36:40
sorry. Wait, but you're not lying to
36:41
me. No.
36:45
Nope. I don't believe him.
36:47
Chop it off, it'll move around. It's a muscle.
36:51
OK, Thank you very much. That is my Ted Talk.
36:54
Thank you Jerry for sharing that super informative story.
36:57
I will be thinking about it and hopefully my TikTok has listened
37:00
to me and you and will be providing me UFO content.
37:04
Cool, I am presenting. I understand what you meant
37:10
about. That's what I'm saying.
37:11
It's like it's just me, right? I'm right here.
37:14
OK, it's, it's just I take back what I said.
37:16
I'm sorry Fred, you did a really good job.
37:19
Thank you, Fred. I appreciate that.
37:20
Please comment down and let Jerry know he did a good job,
37:23
which I'm proud of him because I've been throwing around the
37:26
idea of doing a presentation night and Jerry has vehemently
37:30
been like, no, I'm not doing that.
37:32
I'm not doing a presentation, I can't.
37:34
But you did a really good job. I'm impressed.
37:37
Thank you. Thank you.
37:39
I appreciate that. You're welcome.
37:41
OK. This was fun.
37:44
So Jerry did say he wanted to do Aliens I.
37:48
The lights just turned off. The lights just turned off.
37:50
Just kidding, it was me. I love ghosts.
37:54
I love the idea of ghosts. I believe there has to be
37:57
ghosts. Like there's something out there
37:59
paranormal like it's just energy is too is too complex to just
38:05
only exist as like in the physical space.
38:08
Like there has to be. There's too many historic
38:12
beliefs of like in afterlife and coming back from the afterlife.
38:17
Depictions of hell. Depictions of heaven.
38:19
Yes, in a whole bunch of different cultures.
38:21
Like, they're the most feared thing I think of of humanity is
38:26
death and what happens after death.
38:28
Like, look, Jerry's so scared right now talking about it.
38:31
Oh, you have a question. Yeah, I have a comment.
38:34
OK, go ahead. We are in no way inviting any
38:37
spirits, any negative energy into the space.
38:41
I could take. It thank you.
38:42
I could take it. Don't say that friend, I want
38:44
to. Experience it.
38:45
Take it back. Take it back.
38:46
No, no back. I welcome no and and negative
38:50
energy don't. Space.
38:52
Yeah, don't follow. Jerry, you're not welcome you.
38:54
Can sleep on my couch, please? I will.
38:57
No, we can. We can live harmoniously.
39:00
If you have something you need to do, you just whisper it into
39:03
my ear. Tell it to be in my dreams.
39:06
There has to be a connection. Mom picked me up.
39:08
Oh. I'm scared.
39:09
I've already scared. Jerry and I haven't started, but
39:13
in my initial research when we were going to maybe do this last
39:16
week, I was going to give like a concise history of like spirit
39:22
worlds in different cultures. I really wanted to focus on like
39:27
like ancient like Mexican cultures specifically like
39:31
Aztecs, Mayan, their thoughts of the the underworld and spirits
39:35
and what spirits meant. So I I'm invested in ghosts.
39:41
This story is like ghost adjacent because it is about a
39:45
place that is reported to be haunted.
39:47
But as I was doing my research, it just had so much like like
39:53
negative energy surrounding it. That probably explains why it
39:56
could be haunted. OK, the place I am going to
40:01
discuss today is called the Knickerbocker Hotel in
40:06
Hollywood. Hollywood.
40:09
Hollywood. Currently, it serves as an
40:13
apartment complex for seniors. Now serving as an apartment
40:17
complex for seniors, the Knickerbocker Hotel sat on Ivory
40:21
Ave. It celebrated its grand opening
40:24
in July of 1929. Wow.
40:26
The hotel welcomed esteemed guests such as Mae W, Bette
40:30
Davis, Francis Farmer and is even linked to famed magician
40:35
Harry Houdini. Amazing.
40:36
Wow. Houdini.
40:39
So we're going to start with Houdini.
40:41
So he never actually visited the hotel.
40:46
The magician known for his miraculous feats of escape died
40:50
at the young age of 52. Houdini was known to escape the
40:53
impossible, which it makes his sudden death in 1926 prior to
40:57
the hotel opening, all the more mysterious.
41:02
After performing for a packed house on October 24th, 1926, he
41:06
was rushed to the hospital due to the onset of appendicitis.
41:10
He succumbed to his illness, dying on Halloween night as the
41:14
ruptured appendix had poisoned his insides by that point.
41:19
I saw that candy he ate that day.
41:21
No, here's the thing. It actually isn't super
41:23
mysterious. So I, I guess a few days before
41:28
this final show, he was backstage getting ready and
41:32
there was like a student there who went up to Houdini and said,
41:36
hey, I heard that you're able to survive hard punches to the gut.
41:41
And Houdini was like, yeah, I can.
41:43
And homie, like wailed on him like four or five times really
41:46
hard in the in the gut. And he had been complaining of
41:49
like stomach pain prior to. Ruptured Appendix.
41:52
And I didn't do any kind of Googling to see if there's a
41:55
correlation, but his appendix burst.
41:57
That's crazy. That's and.
41:59
He had been in pain for days and didn't go to the hospital.
42:03
So anyways he died. He.
42:04
Was going to go away like magic. OK, I guess he is.
42:08
He escaped everything. He thought he could escape
42:10
death. Not death.
42:12
OK, prior to his death, Houdini had promised his wife, named
42:16
Bess, that he would manage to escape death and send her a
42:20
message from the afterlife. Homie was very interested in
42:24
what would happen after death. He did join this community of
42:27
people trying to like kind of debunk the afterlife.
42:31
I didn't do super too much research in this because I
42:33
really wanted to focus on other things that happened at the
42:35
hotel. But the Houdini history is very
42:37
interesting. That's cool.
42:38
So he he would like talk to mediums, try to debunk them.
42:41
He one article said that he thought that they would use
42:44
their their beauty and sensuality to kind of like
42:48
swindle people. So he ended up becoming more
42:51
like pessimistic about the whole idea of there being some kind of
42:55
supernatural afterlife. However, he made that promise to
42:59
his wife. When when I die, I will contact
43:01
you. This started a 10 year tradition
43:05
of best conducting annual seances at the hotel Halloween
43:12
night, hoping that she would once again speak to her deceased
43:15
husband on the roof the roof top of this building.
43:18
For 10 years, on Halloween night, she held seances.
43:21
What did she like do? What did she say to reserve the
43:23
spot? She's like, book me again for
43:26
next year. I'll be back next year.
43:28
I want to reserve the roof. I actually wanted to reserve the
43:30
whole roof whole. Roof.
43:32
Yeah, so she did that for 10 years.
43:35
The last year was 1936. After a 10th failed attempt
43:40
conducted on the hotel's rooftop, she finally gave up.
43:44
Regarding her failures, she said Houdini did not come through.
43:48
I do not believe that Houdini can come back to me or to
43:50
anyone. Some blogs reference that there
43:54
a sudden storm appeared above the hotel on the night of the
43:57
final seance. That above the hotel a storm
44:01
just erupted and lasted for all of 10 minutes.
44:04
Which begs the question, did she actually fail and and stop or
44:07
did she get the confirmation she needed and said we don't have to
44:10
do this anymore? I don't know.
44:13
I'd love to leave it up to to just the mysterious of it all.
44:16
Yeah. And and the storm was only.
44:19
It said it started. Peep.
44:21
The blogs I saw this on said that it started just right above
44:25
the hotel. It lasted like 10 minutes.
44:27
But there was no research I found that was able to provide
44:31
any concrete evidence of any kind of weird weather pattern
44:34
that day. Yeah, granted, it was like 1920
44:37
something 1936, so no one logged that.
44:40
No one could check their weather app.
44:43
Check The Weather Channel. Nope.
44:45
So we're just gonna take their word for it.
44:46
The blog was also very SUS. It had some pictures of like
44:50
Knights on the head. Well, that seems credible to me.
44:53
And it was just a forum post. That's cool.
44:56
That makes total sense. OK, so that that ties up the
45:00
Houdini. OK.
45:02
There was another icon of their time, actress Francis Farmer,
45:07
who is linked to the Knickerbocker Hotel.
45:10
The actress, a member of Paramount's Lucky 7, was scouted
45:13
by the studio in 1935. A Seattle native.
45:17
Seattle. It all leads back to Seattle.
45:19
So Fabi, Emma. She is now remembered more for
45:21
her turbulent life than her career.
45:23
She rose to fame in 1936, and her life quickly began to fall
45:27
apart in the years after. In 1942, she reportedly spent a
45:31
majority of her time alone. She drank heavily and became
45:35
highly dependent on amphetamines, those drugs.
45:39
I think so. I think the drugs, no, Yeah.
45:42
She was like popping Tylenol with some wine for maybe OK,
45:48
well that at that point she had a couple film projects.
45:52
She was super famous. She started drinking a lot.
45:56
She had gotten married, I think. I think she got divorced
46:00
ultimately. She wanted to do Broadway plays.
46:02
She went, she did her thing, but it kind of like came crashing
46:08
down due to the alcoholism. She agreed to do a movie in I
46:14
believe that year 1942 in Mexico, but she only lasted 2
46:18
weeks before quitting. And when she returned back to
46:21
her home, she had found out that her parents had sold all her
46:25
belongings and kicked her out of the house she was renting, and
46:29
she was forced to live at the Knickerbocker Hotel because she
46:31
was running out of money. I was.
46:33
I'll be throwing hands final bang.
46:37
Her downward spiral worsened while she stayed at the hotel.
46:41
While shooting a separate movie, she slapped A hairdresser,
46:45
causing her to fall and severely injure her jaw.
46:48
When the hairdresser went to the police.
46:51
Farmer was arrested at the hotel in connection to a prior drunk
46:54
driving warrant that she had not paid.
46:58
But your tickets? Literally should have DUI that
47:00
should have not finished paying and she slapped her hairdresser
47:02
which led the cops to be like oh you have a warrant out for your
47:05
arrest. So on January 13th, 1943, police
47:09
found her drunk, naked and in a manic episode.
47:12
Afraid she was not afraid, she refused to comply.
47:17
After a night in jail, she was transferred to a psychiatric
47:20
ward at the request of a psychiatrist connected or
47:23
contacted by her family. A few days later, she was
47:26
admitted to a La Crescenta Sanitarium, A psych ward, which
47:30
she would be administered shock therapy prior to her release.
47:35
There are rumors she was even lobotomized by Doctor Walter J
47:39
Freeman, who made the lobotomy famous.
47:42
He's the one who pioneered lobotomy.
47:44
Some accounts even say that one of the pictures of him, like an
47:48
infamous picture of him doing a little a lobotomy, that the
47:52
patient is this actress. What?
47:55
Yes. His motto was lobotomy gets them
47:59
home. Get the fuck out of here.
48:03
Get the fuck out of here. That's crazy.
48:07
She might not be haunting the the Knickerbocker Hotel, but it
48:11
is also like a sad, heavy experience tied to the hotel.
48:16
Trauma, negative energy, stay there like it's not going.
48:19
Anywhere No I I agree. Like, if bad stuff happens, it
48:23
just it like the energy gets trapped in a wall, whether it be
48:27
just memories, kind of if people know what happens there.
48:30
You kind of already go into it with like the mental state of
48:33
like, oh, things have happened here that are not so nice.
48:37
Yeah. I wonder if that opens you up
48:40
to, to believing things like you, if you go in expecting like
48:45
all this place was like, really? Darn.
48:46
Yeah, I, I think your brain does that.
48:48
Like it just looks for things to happen, kind of like when you're
48:52
looking for like you have this car in your head and then like
48:54
you start getting that like pattern and you start seeing it
48:57
out there more often because you're like looking for it.
48:58
Oh, true. Subconsciously.
49:00
Yes, I forgot what that's called, but yes.
49:02
You're like, you're like manifesting.
49:04
Yeah, in a way. In a way.
49:05
But, but who knows? Who knows?
49:07
So she didn't die there. Like I said, someone who did die
49:11
at the hotel kind of sort of was Hollywood royalty, DW Griffith,
49:17
who is kind of regarded as the the one who started the big like
49:22
the movie industry. Whoa.
49:25
The FAME director spent his sunset years at the hotel
49:28
throughout the 1940s. He was a well dressed man and
49:31
was seen around the hotel lobby with his signature cane.
49:35
On July 23rd, 1948 he suffered a massive stroke in the hotel
49:39
lobby right under the crystal chandelier.
49:43
What a what a dramatic place to to die.
49:45
Yep. But what a way to go out, dude.
49:47
I know. But at this point he was already
49:49
he was a way older. His fame had already like kind
49:52
of dwindled out because the movies he made them back in like
49:55
1916 through 1920. So by the 1940s he was already a
49:59
lot older. People said that he was kind of
50:01
like irritable, not there fully mentally would spend most of his
50:06
time reading and just walking around the lobby.
50:09
He didn't necessarily die there. He did suffer his stroke, but
50:11
that's I would say that's a big like transfer of energy.
50:14
Like it ultimately led to his death.
50:17
Dude, I know, and that crystal chandelier stayed there for a
50:20
very long time. Interesting.
50:22
I couldn't find any recent pictures.
50:24
Things are starting because. It's like a senior home now, so
50:26
they probably don't advertise in.
50:28
Yeah, I know. But if it's still there, that's
50:30
scary. Things are becoming crystal
50:34
clear. And that wasn't the first big
50:36
like death experience. The 2nd and most infamous
50:40
happened in 1962 where famed costume designer Irene Lentz
50:45
committed suicide by jumping out of the window in room 1129 two
50:50
weeks before her 61st birthday. So Irene Lance is a costume
50:55
designer for the movie industry. She was super popular or well
50:59
known for like her kind of suit inspired looks for women.
51:04
So she did a lot of like dresses that were like pinstripe had big
51:07
shoulders, very iconic. If you see some like movies, you
51:10
would and you see like very similar outfits.
51:13
It was most likely her cool. It is reported that she Irene
51:18
widely distributed suicide notes, drank 2 bottles of vodka
51:22
and slashed her wrist prior to jumping out the window.
51:27
That happened in 1962. By the 1970's, the hotel's fame
51:31
had began to diminish. The Knickerbocker Hotel had
51:34
fondling disrepair and struggled to attract guests.
51:37
The hotel was sold and converted to a senior living facility by
51:40
1972. All of this dark history
51:45
plaguing the hotel seems to have manifested as supernatural
51:49
activity. Occupants of room 1129 claim to
51:54
feel a lingering chill in the room.
51:57
Some say they feel an inexplicable urge to jump upon
52:00
passing the window. There have been accounts of
52:03
visitors claiming to have seen a disheveled woman standing by the
52:06
windowsill at distance who disappears when they try to
52:10
investigate. Interesting.
52:12
A maintenance worker for the facility, Hector Garcia, told
52:16
The Hollywood Reporter that many have seen her.
52:18
When I work in the basement, shadows go by and doors close
52:21
and open by themselves. No, thank you.
52:24
Imagine you're like, OK, grandma, we're gonna put you in
52:26
this facility and she's stuck in a room 1129.
52:30
Nope. Nope.
52:32
You go visit her and you're like grandma, who's that grandma
52:35
your? Friend, your friend is here.
52:37
You didn't tell me you had a guess.
52:39
Grandma, why is she opening the window?
52:41
Grandma, Why is she grab a watch?
52:42
You jumping? That would scare me, seeing
52:45
someone and then turning back and they're gone in an enclosed
52:48
space. No.
52:50
If it's in public like that, happens all the time.
52:52
Yeah, Look, look back. They're gone.
52:54
They walked away. Yeah, but in your room?
52:56
Nope. So in this room, 1121. 11/29. 29
53:02
The there's a chill. Turn off the AC.
53:05
Yeah. Is it central?
53:07
Is it central? You see?
53:08
Or there's a there's a draft. There's a draft.
53:09
Close the window. The window's not.
53:11
Closed and then when you walk by the window you get a sudden urge
53:14
to jump. Use that space man.
53:17
Use your squats. Get those squats and get those
53:18
box jumps in re re purpose that window.
53:21
Do some burpees. Do some burpees.
53:23
Damn dude that's crazy though. I don't know what that means,
53:26
though. I've never had the sudden urge
53:28
to jump. Do you just, like, look at the
53:31
window? Like real longingly.
53:32
Like, oh, I could. I could, I could.
53:36
I won't, but I could. Never.
53:39
But that is why I mean how high is?
53:42
It's 11, it's on the 11th story, so it's pretty high up there.
53:46
It's like one story but like 11 of them.
53:49
That's crazy. Wow.
53:54
Aside from that, there are even mentions of Marilyn Monroe's
53:57
ghost floating around the hotel. Her ghost is rumored to haunt
54:02
the ladies room where the hotel has housed their Lido Room bar.
54:08
So the bar was called the Lido Room.
54:10
So I guess during the time it was super famous and a lot of
54:15
people went, they also had a bar that a lot of celebrities
54:19
attended to. And in the years when it started
54:22
to kind of dwindle and it wasn't like the hot spot to stay, a lot
54:25
of celebrities would sneak there to like have a little fun and so
54:30
go out for a little drink to spend the night.
54:32
But not not it'd be a huge like fanfare like, oh, Marilyn
54:36
Monroasting at this hotel. It was by that point it was kind
54:38
of seedy, kind of dark, kind of very low key.
54:42
So they went to go do improv. Yeah, definitely used to relive
54:44
those days, you know, before the fame.
54:46
Improv in the Bedroom Reports state that she has been seen
54:51
staring at herself in the bathroom mirror.
54:54
I will too. Another bar, Spirit, is known to
54:56
knock down bottles, touch women's hands and pull on
54:59
chairs. Consent, dude, come on.
55:03
With your spirit or can Do you think they know how to ask?
55:09
You know what? Maybe you can ask your your
55:11
spirit. That's gonna be your.
55:13
Soon I'll be like, you can do whatever you want, give me a
55:18
safe word, OK. And then the the highlight, the
55:25
the cute, the cute little story to the Knickerbocker Hotel is of
55:31
Spec, the name of the ghost dog roaming the halls who once
55:35
belonged to hotel manager Jack Matthews.
55:38
Spec was said to manage the elevators on his own, pressing
55:43
the buttons with his paws. Get the.
55:45
Fuck out of here. That's the cutest to get ever.
55:47
Literally imagine a dog running around and being like oh I gotta
55:50
go home 410. Some have claimed to see his the
55:53
apparition of a dog running down the halls or appearing in the
55:57
elevator. Is there is there like a a
56:00
mention of what kind of dog? There is.
56:03
I'd have to search for it in one of the articles.
56:06
Don't. Worry about it.
56:06
Don't worry about it. That's cute as hell.
56:09
It's like, I think to me, I think of like any spirits that
56:13
are animals, dogs, cats, like those are pure spirits, you
56:16
know, And that to me, just like that doesn't scare me.
56:20
Like compared to like, oh, like spirits of humans and a little
56:23
girl and a lady in white and the dude, whatever.
56:27
Like a ghost dog, a spirit dog. It's just, it sounds so pure to
56:30
me. And I'm like, wow, like I just I
56:32
want to pet it. I want to like.
56:33
An English setter. What is that?
56:37
I'll search it up. I remember it being cute because
56:41
I did look it up and I'm like, oh, that's bigger than I
56:43
thought. Oh Gee, it's so cute.
56:45
Very cute. It looks like a spotted golden
56:49
retriever, kind of. But yeah, those are some of the
56:52
hauntings and some of the the dark histories that have plagued
56:58
the Knickerbocker Hotel. Next time I am walking in
57:03
Hollywood and I see the Knickerbocker, I'm going to look
57:05
up and remember this this podcast.
57:09
And think of the 11th floor. Think of the 11th floor and then
57:11
think of the dog. Yeah.
57:13
And then that's what I'm going to be like subconsciously
57:16
looking out for a ghost dog. And then you're going to see
57:18
that specific dog you Gould, running around the hall.
57:21
And and life will be all well and and happy and flowers and
57:25
dandelions. Wow, that's so cool, Brian,
57:27
this. Made me want to visit but it's
57:29
like there are apartments now. You can't just be like, oh hi, I
57:33
want to, I'm sure walking. Check out the lobby maybe?
57:36
True, but they're going to be like who you trying to see?
57:39
The ghost dog. Where's the dog?
57:43
I need a Petit. Dang, that's true.
57:45
That'd be cool though. If we're ever in the area and
57:47
you know we're not going out of our way to be in two hours of
57:49
traffic to get there, I would be down to like walk by it.
57:52
Dude, it's super close to like to like the the Hollywood movie
57:56
things. It's like a thing a mile out
57:58
from like the Chinese theater. Cool.
57:59
Oh yeah. So it's all that.
58:00
Yeah, it's all around there. That's.
58:01
Cool, when I was looking around the map it's like like 3 miles
58:05
from the Hollywood sign. Wow.
58:06
Well, I'll tell you this friend. Thank you for sharing.
58:10
You're a great storyteller. Thank you, I wrote this as like
58:13
an essay and that's how I read it.
58:17
That was fun though. Look, it even looks spooky.
58:20
Yeah. Is it the Yeah, Yeah.
58:22
That like old school, like billboard, like sign.
58:25
Did you ever work when you were there I.
58:26
Don't maybe, but I don't remember.
58:28
I I did a couple events like early on in, in Hollywood,
58:31
downtown and all those areas, but never like I never had that
58:36
building in my, you know, my arsenal of famous buildings.
58:40
Yeah, that's so cool. I love, I love old buildings,
58:44
like anything from that era, like 1920s to 1940s.
58:47
I think it's so interesting. Like what is the golden age of
58:49
Hollywood? Yeah.
58:51
Wow. Hey, what do you say?
58:53
What do you say the the Knickerbocker?
58:56
Staying at the Knickerbocker. Hey, let's go get a drink at the
59:00
Knickerbocker. Let's go put a ghost dog.
59:02
Hey, what do you say? Oh, the the chandelier might
59:07
still be there. This looks like a very modern
59:09
picture. That's a nice chandelier, OK.
59:11
And think about the fact that DW Griffith had a stroke under
59:14
there. Like I said, good way to go out
59:18
fancy under the fancy chandelier made of oh.
59:20
My God, you he was. He saw the lights.
59:23
He he said this is my time. I'm going.
59:27
This is my sign. But Yep, like I said, I love
59:33
spooky stories. I love ghosts.
59:34
I think they exist. Would you spend the night with
59:37
me at the Queen Mary? Yes, and we will do an episode
59:40
there, OK, with our camera and our equipment.
59:44
And what's the thing called the electromagnetic EMF readers?
59:47
Yep, I'm done. I'm done.
59:50
I've been wanting to buy them and I need a reason to.
59:52
They have like their sections where we when we did the ghost
59:55
tour. Oh, because you did the Ghost
59:58
Tour? Yeah, it was really fun.
1:00:00
They had like the different sections in the boat and we went
1:00:02
down and like the, the, the tour guide was super cool and he was
1:00:06
like really interactive with the with the crowd and stuff.
1:00:09
But he took us to the pool and I really want to go to the.
1:00:11
Pool. Me too.
1:00:12
Quartz, you know, that's like a the pool.
1:00:14
'S made of. Quartz there's like, yeah,
1:00:16
there's like walls or like the, I don't know what exactly, but
1:00:18
there's a lot of. Quartz in there that trapped
1:00:20
some energy. That is totally a portal.
1:00:22
Like it's a portal. It's crazy.
1:00:24
But that'll be another episode. But I am down to go spend the
1:00:28
night. There's a haunted room not
1:00:30
there, but I'm down maybe next door.
1:00:33
No, I'd like to do the haunted room.
1:00:35
Well, I mean whatever happens happens.
1:00:37
Whatever room we get booked, we will go.
1:00:40
Do you think our friends want to join this?
1:00:43
Yeah, of course they're down. Really, I've thrown the idea
1:00:46
around to Melissa and I don't know if she's down.
1:00:49
If I. I think they were they said
1:00:51
they'd be down to stay, but not to like ghost Hunt.
1:00:53
But I want to go. Oh, that's.
1:00:54
Fine, they can stay in the room. We can go.
1:00:56
No. Because they're going to stay in
1:00:57
the room alone and then weird shit's going to.
1:00:58
Happen. I know Goose is down.
1:00:59
Goose is down to ghost hunt. I know she'd be down.
1:01:01
We're going to leave them there with their own.
1:01:05
There'll be two investigations. They stay in the room and they
1:01:09
record what they what they witnessed, and then we'll walk
1:01:12
the halls. It's got to be like at midnight
1:01:13
and stuff dude. 2 in the morning, the reaping hour.
1:01:16
Do you think like, if you do that, you'll walk out and you'll
1:01:18
see other people doing the same thing?
1:01:19
Absolutely. I think people do that a lot,
1:01:21
yeah. Like they go there, they have
1:01:22
like their equipment. Any good emfs?
1:01:25
Hey, how's your EMF looking? Is it reading good?
1:01:27
Yeah, you you find any hotspots? Look at mine, it's my phone.
1:01:31
Look, I found a picture of a child and it's just someone's
1:01:33
child, but you put a black and white filter.
1:01:36
Check this picture out. It's the random picture you
1:01:38
found. What do you think?
1:01:39
Look, it's a selfie. Be in the bathroom.
1:01:43
What do you think? You see it?
1:01:44
Do you see it? It's crazy, right I?
1:01:45
Remember the fact that I'm not wearing a shirt, but do you see
1:01:47
it? That's that's someone else's
1:01:51
shadow. I'll.
1:01:51
Censor it when I put it on Instagram.
1:01:55
I'm down, if you'd like to join us, we'll give a date.
1:01:58
Yeah, no. Man, no, I'm just kidding.
1:02:00
No, we're not going to. Do it.
1:02:01
No, unless, unless you want to ghost hunt like you're one of
1:02:03
our friends and you want to ghost hunt like hit us up.
1:02:08
The ghost sliding himself up. I'm down.
1:02:09
The one that's going to follow you home?
1:02:11
Nope, Jerry. Nope.
1:02:16
Well, Nope. Hope you like the RA paranormal
1:02:19
episode. We would like to have more on
1:02:20
different subjects. Yeah, like I wanna talk about
1:02:25
like, witchcraft and Bruhedia. I know someone who'd be perfect.
1:02:29
For that, I know that 'd be good and we can learn and ask
1:02:34
questions. Yes, we can.
1:02:35
OK, we'll see. We'll see.
1:02:36
We'll have to ask around. Let us know in the comments.
1:02:39
Yeah, What? What do you want to listen to?
1:02:41
What do you want us to research? I think we should also look into
1:02:45
UFOs or aliens some more, especially like those Mexican
1:02:49
aliens that came out like last year.
1:02:52
There's a bunch of new stuff and like the stuff that's been on
1:02:55
the news recently and it's like, wow, like declassified files,
1:02:58
dude. I know I really wanted a deep
1:03:00
dive, but that was a lot of information.
1:03:02
It's. OK, No, that could be something
1:03:04
we research on our own time and once we're ready, we'll present
1:03:07
I'll. Take a speech class.
1:03:09
Yeah. Also, like we said we did, we do
1:03:13
have our sources. Those will be listed in the show
1:03:17
notes, Yeah. Check them out.
1:03:18
Yep, I did use Fact Check me, PBS, Socal, a website called LA
1:03:25
Curb, The Hollywood Reporter, some individually like managed
1:03:34
like blogs, this place called Travelanch.
1:03:37
So if we don't have the most like authentic sources.
1:03:40
Don't worry about. It at least I didn't make it up
1:03:43
on myself. I used someone else's made-up
1:03:44
information. It also would have been super
1:03:46
fascinating and I would have been impressed if he just said I
1:03:49
just came up with that on the spot guys that just lied.
1:03:51
Sorry guys. Those people aren't real.
1:03:53
Those none of the. Names.
1:03:54
Houdini what? That's the most made-up name
1:03:56
I've ever. Heard you've only heard about it
1:03:58
in Dua Lipa Song. Yeah, that's where I got the
1:04:00
inspiration. There you go.
1:04:02
There you go. Wow.
1:04:04
Well this is fun friend. Yeah, I agree.
1:04:07
This is the the most informative I had.
1:04:10
I had a good time listening. I beg to differ.
1:04:13
I think our cocking episode around us more.
1:04:15
Was I mean audiences have agreed.
1:04:18
This is personally my favorite. This is 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.
1:04:21
I mean, we're not even a movie. We got 100%.
1:04:24
We got 100%. This is fun.
1:04:26
This is really fun. Thank you friends for listening.
1:04:28
Thank you very much. And we'll catch you guys next
1:04:31
week for your Daily BJ Daily BJ.