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Trans child care · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: The Ohio Supreme Court hearing arguments today. And there's the
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  Speaker 1: story I'm getting here for the WSYX website at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the story, in the end of the story,
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  Speaker 1: the most intriguing part of the story. I am up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously, I have my own point of view,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm fascinated by people who are on the opposite side.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand them. I think we are where we
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  Speaker 1: need to be. It is the law of the land
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  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio. Legislature passed to build
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  Speaker 1: as the law of the land at this point that
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  Speaker 1: youth miners under eighteen years of age cannot get gender
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  Speaker 1: what they call gender affirming care. I mean they can
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  Speaker 1: get healthcare, they han't gender, meaning that they're choosing to
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  Speaker 1: represent the represent themselves as something in the air nine.
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  Speaker 1: So they will not be aided in changing their physical
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  Speaker 1: makeup from one gender to the other, the other one
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  Speaker 1: other there or two. They that's what the bill in
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  Speaker 1: Ohio that passes. You're not going to get help in
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Now. Once you're eighteen, you to do as
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  Speaker 1: you want. But as a minor, it is illegal for
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  Speaker 1: any doctor, medical facility to do anything that would assist
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  Speaker 1: in what they would call a transition process. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: this was overruled by an appeals level court, and then
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  Speaker 1: there was a stay, and then the Ohia Supreme Court
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  Speaker 1: agreed to hear arguments on whether it should be overturned
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  Speaker 1: or continued to be the law of the land. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the first, the first intriguing part of this story, the
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  Speaker 1: very first line from the WSYX website. The Ohio Supreme
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  Speaker 1: Court spent about thirty minutes Tuesday morning hearing arguments in
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  Speaker 1: a controversial case that could change access to medical care
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  Speaker 1: for transgender miners across the state. Thirty minutes. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's bad. I'm just saying I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe thirty minutes is all this all this merited on
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  Speaker 1: their court schedule. The case Moe versus Yost, as in
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  Speaker 1: Daviost challenges Ohio House Bill sixty eight, a law that
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  Speaker 1: bans doctors from prescribing puberty blockers and hormone therapy to
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  Speaker 1: transgender patients under eighteen. Under eighteen courtroom was packed with
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  Speaker 1: advocates on both sides of the aisle. The law was
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  Speaker 1: passed after the General as simply overrode a veto by
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  Speaker 1: Mike Dwine. Yeah, the governor. The governor was in favor
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  Speaker 1: overrode of veto by Mike Dwine in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: Supporters of the law argue that it protects children from
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  Speaker 1: making life altering medical decisions too early. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: Attorney General Davios defending the law, saying that the state
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  Speaker 1: has the authority to regulate treatments it does not consider
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  Speaker 1: legally recognized healthcare. Don't necessarily agree with that statement. That's
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  Speaker 1: not a direct quote. That's a statement on the WSYX site.
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  Speaker 1: During the hearing, Ohio Solicitor General. I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 1: Thura Sritter han am I saying that correctly, you have
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  Speaker 1: any idea, I don't have any clue. This is a
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  Speaker 1: difficult last name. Sr I d h r A n
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  Speaker 1: srit A hand I think argue that the state can
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  Speaker 1: define what qualifies as healthcare under the law. Again, I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Don't agree with that legally. Here's
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  Speaker 1: a quote. Legally, it is not healthcare, she said, as
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  Speaker 1: long as the Ohio General Assembly makes a determination that
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  Speaker 1: does not constitute legally allowable health care in Ohio. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Now we got to discern between what is legally allowable
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  Speaker 1: and what is healthcare. You don't want experimental therapies and
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  Speaker 1: treatments to be at the discretion of the legislature. They're
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  Speaker 1: not doctors, well most of them or not. And having
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  Speaker 1: the legislature define what is and is not health care, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not. I think you're on You're on the wrong
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  Speaker 1: path to the right goal, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: The story continues on the other side. Attorney Jordan Brock,
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  Speaker 1: representing the families challenging the law, argue that parents have
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  Speaker 1: a fundamental right to make medical decisions for their children. Again,
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  Speaker 1: why if parents? If parents have a fundamental right to
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  Speaker 1: make medical decisions for their children, that that phrase opens
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  Speaker 1: doors that I don't think anybody wants to see the
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  Speaker 1: trouble as you see it through the lens of your
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  Speaker 1: argument and not the big picture. The lawsuit was filed
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  Speaker 1: by a group of parents who say that the band
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  Speaker 1: violates Ohio's health Care Freedom Amendment, which protects individual's rights
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  Speaker 1: to choose their medical care. Exactly, I believe you should
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  Speaker 1: be able to choose your medical care, whether that is
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  Speaker 1: radiation treatments for cancer, whether that is injections of some
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  Speaker 1: sort for diabetes, whether that is wearing a rooster on
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  Speaker 1: your head and singing the theme to Happy Days, whatever
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  Speaker 1: the treatment you want, that should be your right. Civil
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  Speaker 1: rights groups backing the families argue the law interferes with
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  Speaker 1: parental rights and access to necessary health care. Supporters of
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  Speaker 1: the law of maintaining it's a safeguard for miners potentially
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  Speaker 1: irreversible physical changes. I do agree with that that lasts.
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  Speaker 1: This is the problem if a child. If if an
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  Speaker 1: eight year old child can say I want to be whatever,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mean, I want to be a girl instead
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  Speaker 1: of being a boy, and that healthcare has to be
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  Speaker 1: we're going to call it health care has to be
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  Speaker 1: given to them. Their parents aren't even the mix. Are
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  Speaker 1: they think about now? Think about this. This gets very twisted.
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  Speaker 1: They keep saying parents have a right to perform or
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  Speaker 1: allow to be performed, these acts, these surgeries, these treatments
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  Speaker 1: on their kid. If the kid has an inherent right,
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  Speaker 1: are the parents even necessary If an eight year old
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  Speaker 1: says I'm a boy and I want to be a girl,
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  Speaker 1: and a teacher decides to take them to the clinic
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  Speaker 1: and the GENSU comes out, and do the parents have
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  Speaker 1: any right to say no, they can't do that. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: not with this argument. If these children, these babies, have
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  Speaker 1: that right, then it is a right. If it is
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  Speaker 1: not subject to the legislature. If it is not subject
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  Speaker 1: to the law, then it cannot be subject to a parent.
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  Speaker 1: Whether they are a parent or not, does not give
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  Speaker 1: them the control over that right. You're peeing in your
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  Speaker 1: own cheerios. With your argument, you cannot say they have
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  Speaker 1: a right to this treatment while still saying that right
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  Speaker 1: is governed by the parents. Doesn't make sense. Secondly, if
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  Speaker 1: a child, if the eight year old boy can say
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  Speaker 1: I want to be an eight year old girl and
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  Speaker 1: that's okay, they have to be granted whatever alterations they want.
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  Speaker 1: If they can make that kind of decision today, what
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  Speaker 1: other decisions can they make? I mean, shouldn't they be
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  Speaker 1: able to have a beer if they want to? I mean, hey,
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  Speaker 1: they got the right. Well, we have a law that
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  Speaker 1: says well, we have a law that says this too.
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  Speaker 1: What if the eight year old just wants to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have a couple of beers and go to bed or
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  Speaker 1: it's Ohio, we've got recreational weed. Eight year old wants
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  Speaker 1: a beer in a joint and then wants to kick
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  Speaker 1: back for the night, you know, Netflix and chill. That's all.
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  Speaker 1: If they have the right to change their gender, to
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  Speaker 1: have things lopped off or implanted so that they can
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  Speaker 1: look in the mirror and see something that is not
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  Speaker 1: as they were created, why don't they have the right
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  Speaker 1: to everything? In fact, why aren't they legally responsible for
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  Speaker 1: what they do when they're eight years old. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: get down to it. They should be able to sign
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  Speaker 1: contracts and enter into agreements and be held liable in
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  Speaker 1: a court of law, shouldn't they? Or maybe, just maybe
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  Speaker 1: it would make sense to allow them to grow up
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  Speaker 1: and become legal adults before they make life altering decisions,
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  Speaker 1: before they relinquish the comfort of having somebody else in
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  Speaker 1: control of what they can and cannot do, can and
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  Speaker 1: cannot have, where they can go, who they can know.
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  Speaker 1: That's what parents do. I'm telling you, this is that
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  Speaker 1: slippery slope you're always hearing about. If you're going to
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  Speaker 1: tell me that a child has a right to insist
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  Speaker 1: that you lop something off of them so they can
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  Speaker 1: feel pretty, oh so pretty, then how can you argue
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  Speaker 1: with me when I say that child should have a
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  Speaker 1: right to absolutely everything that an adult has. And if
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  Speaker 1: you cannot understand that argument, you're too micro focused on
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  Speaker 1: your own agenda. This, this kettle of crazy is overflowing
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  Speaker 1: at this point. And I don't know how the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court only spent thirty minutes hearing this unless, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: they already had their decision made in advance. Zach, I
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  Speaker 1: will allow you the end of the show to chastise
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  Speaker 1: me and tell me why I'm wrong if you want to,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any I can't do that. Are we
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  Speaker 1: on the same page? I agree with? Okay? Except what
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  Speaker 1: was there something I said you didn't agree with? No?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just I wasn't listening. Oh well, okay, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any disagreement. You will be one of
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  Speaker 2: the people standing at the water cooler tomorrow going what
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  Speaker 2: well you mean?
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  Speaker 1: What? Huh? What? Thirty minutes in front of the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court the last sentence of the story. The court
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  Speaker 1: did not issue a ruling Thursday. A decision is expected
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  Speaker 1: at a later date, when if you only heard it
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  Speaker 1: for thirty minutes, you probably got the decision already there.
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  Speaker 1: Why why not just tell us what we're going to
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  Speaker 1: give your decision on this date at a later date,
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  Speaker 1: and could have further implications in other states considering similar laws.
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  Speaker 1: Forget about other states and similar laws, This could have
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  Speaker 1: further implications on this state and our laws. If the
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  Speaker 1: laws upheld, the story concludes, the band will remain in place.
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  Speaker 1: If overturned, doctors could resume providing gender affirming care to
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  Speaker 1: transgender miners in Ohio. So there it is, and it
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  Speaker 1: worries me, worries me to no end again. Once you
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  Speaker 1: are an adult, this is your choice, and unfortunately you're
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  Speaker 1: probably not prepared to make a decision like that at
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  Speaker 1: eighteen either. Plenty of people made that decision at thirty
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  Speaker 1: and and by thirty five there was I thinking life
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  Speaker 1: may not be easy, but altering your physical being to
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  Speaker 1: look like something that it was not isn't going to
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  Speaker 1: change that. Sometimes life is hard. And when you say,
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  Speaker 1: but I just want to be happy, everybody wants to
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  Speaker 1: be happy. But that's not a right. Happiness is valuable
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  Speaker 1: bonus points. On any given day, the Constitution says I'm
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed hat No, it says life, liberty, and the pursuit
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  Speaker 1: of happiness. It's out there. You have every legal right
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  Speaker 1: to go get it, but it's not granted by the government.
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  Speaker 1: You don't pick it up, it doesn't come in a
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  Speaker 1: check at the end of every month. If the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court UH does not make the right decision here,
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  Speaker 1: which I pray they do, we got trouble.