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The Food Episode · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to Nick and Kristen in the podcast.
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  I'm Nick. That's Kristen.
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  This is our podcast. We used to be on a radio show.
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  At what point do I stop saying that?
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  Because. Yeah, I mean.
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  Been three months. Now we're now more podcasters
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  than we are radio personalities at this point.
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  Definitely. Yeah.
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  Like no one now anybody listening remembers us as
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  podcasters. I don't think it's only we've
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  gone that far, but yeah, like at some point we're future radio
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  people. We'd like to.
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  We'd like to get back into it. Yes.
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  So thank you for listening. Don't forget to like and
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  subscribe. We have a daughter.
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  And did I say we're married? Because yeah.
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  We're the Married podcast. Today we came across a
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  realization that we may be old, and that's why everything sucks.
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  There's a new place that launched down the street from
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  where we live. It's a Hawaiian BBQ place and
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  Kristen has been mentioning this.
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  I don't know why you kept mentioning it.
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  Well, because. I knew you like Hawaiian BBQ.
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  It was a place like, so if you don't realize, like Vegas, which
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  is where Nick and I met, but Nick kind of grew up there.
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  I lived there for a a big chunk of time.
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  But like, Vegas is very heavily Hawaiian and so you.
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  Never would have thought it, but there's.
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  Tons of Hawaiian restaurants and they're always pretty decent.
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  A lot of our friends were Hawaiian and so we kind of like
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  always went to Hawaiian style places and we really haven't had
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  those experiences since living in Vegas because Hawaiian food
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  is not something that's like readily available to a lot of
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  people. Yeah, and there's a couple
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  Hawaiian places here that we've gone to garbage.
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  Like they're all just like, you're just like, oh God, that's
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  terrible. And so when they launched this
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  one, Kristen kept saying how there's a line out the door.
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  Everyone's lined up for this place.
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  I'm seeing TikTok videos about it.
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  Yeah. And so we made a beeline for it
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  today when Kristen doesn't work on Wednesdays.
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  And so I was like, well, I, I also don't work on Wednesdays.
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  And so like, let's go have lunch together.
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  Yeah. And so we went down there a
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  little bit of a line. Yeah, it.
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  Was still pretty busy. And I got the food.
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  It looked good. It looked like good Hawaiian
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  food. The rice was good, which is, you
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  know, just rice and and I tried everything and it was fine.
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  I it all had flavor, I think. But at the end of the at the end
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  of the meal, I go, is it me? Am I broken or is the system
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  broken? No, because.
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  I'm also I'm feeling the same way.
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  OK, because but it could be that we're both just old now.
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  Like are we just not have our our taste buds dead and they
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  don't taste anything anymore? Have they over experienced life
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  and now they're just kind of done and giving up?
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  I'm sure there's some science to this.
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  There is some science to this and a lot of people, because
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  surprisingly a lot of people are feeling this way.
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  You go on the Internet and everyone's like, why is
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  everything taste bad? And ultimately it's the real
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  reason. Is that like the company Cisco
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  owns like 80% of the food distribution companies?
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  And so like there's no local ingredients being used in
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  anything anymore. If it is like that's their
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  thing, like we're the local place, but like everybody's
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  getting their protein, their vegetables, everything from
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  Cisco. And so everything has started to
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  taste the same. And there was like this whole
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  documentary that we watch where this guy went to multiple
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  different States and ordered jalapeno poppers at all
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  different restaurants. And he took pictures of them and
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  he tried them and he's like, they're all the same jalapeno
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  poppers because they all come from Cisco.
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  And he did like this whole expose thing on it.
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  But my thing is like I have no joy in eating anymore and I
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  don't know if these two are maybe related.
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  I think so, because everywhere we go it feels like nobody
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  flavors anything. No, it's simple, basic flavor.
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  Salt and pepper. I don't know, like I said, if
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  it's because we're old and everything just turns to garbage
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  when you get to 40 or whatever, but or, or if it's actually the,
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  the whole system that's being weird because ever since the
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  pandemic, it feels like everything's cut back.
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  People stop caring about the flavors of things.
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  And I was validated because there's a guy I follow on
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  TikTok. He's called the Taco Fiend and
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  he goes, he went to all 50 states to try all the tacos and
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  like, you know, he came here where we live and he just had
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  tacos and he's like, why? How could this look like this
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  and have no flavor whatsoever? Very strange.
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  It's a weird phenomenon out here that's supposed to be like the
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  great Foodie City. And it might be in like very
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  downtown Portland, right? But right outside of Portland,
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  nothing has any. Flavor.
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  It's very, very odd because you'll look at something and
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  it'll be in a sauce. It will have salsa on it.
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  Yeah. And you'll take a bite and
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  you're like, I don't taste anything.
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  It's very strange. Especially avocados out here.
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  Yeah. So, so weird.
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  You can buy a plate that has avocados on it and it doesn't.
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  It's like you, I mean, there's no flavor.
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  None. You buy an avocado from the
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  grocery store and there's zero flavor.
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  So like, is this a thing nationwide?
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  I don't know. I don't know but it's driving me
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  crazy. I think I'm losing my mind.
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  I make stuff at home now more than I ever went out to eat and
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  now when we drive by places that are out I go.
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  I'd rather make it at home. It's not worth it.
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  The the price they're charging now and the taste of nothingness
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  is just not seem to be worth it anymore.
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  Well, and then on my part, it's like I have no joy around eating
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  anything. And it used to be like your
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  That's your comfort. Well, yeah.
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  And like, I mean, foodie is one of the the great pleasures of
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  life, right? I mean, this is like the thing
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  that people like. Like I wake up every morning and
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  I go, I know I have to eat something, but I don't even care
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  what it is. Like I don't want anything.
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  Like today I I came down the stairs and I sat for like an
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  hour and I'm like, I know I should eat something.
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  And you're like, I'll make you something.
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  Omelette potatoes, like scrambled eggs, I'll make you a
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  bagel. Like I'll make you anything you
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  want. And I was like, all of that
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  sounds awful. Yeah, You've had a you've been
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  in a weird mood the last couple of days because you'll eat like
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  you've never done this before in the like 15 or 16 or 20 years
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  that I've known you. You start eating something and
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  then you just stop. Yeah, like you're just done.
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  I was like, I was like, you're just done.
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  Well, we had popcorn last night. Yeah, I had like 3 handfuls of
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  popcorn because that's how you measure popcorn, by the way,
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  handfuls. And I was just like, I don't
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  want any more of this. I can't.
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  I can't stomach any more of this.
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  You left a full bowl of cereal because you don't eat it with
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  milk. So you just poured a cereal into
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  a bowl. Yeah.
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  And you had a bite and just left it there.
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  And you're like, I just don't want to.
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  It's been a weird thing that's happened over, like, the last
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  couple of weeks. Yeah.
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  Is you just stop. Eating I just stop eating
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  because I'm like why am I still eating this?
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  Like I don't want to be eating I.
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  Wish I could do that. Yeah, well.
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  But like on some levels. I'm not, I'm not losing any
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  weight because that really, yeah, a couple days ago I was
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  like, well, I must be like down a couple pounds because I feel
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  like I'm not eating anything. I step on the scale.
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  I'm exactly the same. So I'm getting the same caloric
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  intake. You're still eating, but you
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  hate every. Moment I'm still, I'm still
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  eating, but it's like it doesn't matter anymore what it is.
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  And that's so strange to me because like where I work in
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  Vancouver, they just opened a brand new in and out.
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  Like I'm from California. In and out's my jam.
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  I love in and out. It's my fast food burger place.
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  That's what I grew up on. I know a lot of people out here
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  have very strong opinions, but like, as a Californian, like I
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  love that place. And like, I'll have two hours in
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  my schedule that's like in between clients and I go, I'm
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  hungry, like I should eat something.
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  And I'm like, Oh yeah, there's that in and out down the street,
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  like. Is it because of the line or?
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  Because like, just like I don't want the time, I just don't want
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  to eat anything. And I have snacks in my office.
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  I have like beef jerky sticks. I have, I have low fat popcorn
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  and I have like granola bars. And I'll sit there and I'll just
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  be like, well, I'll just have a beef stick because at least
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  that's protein. I know that I'm fueling my body
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  for the next client or whatever. And I'll just sit here and do
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  work. And it's just like, it's a very
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  sad feeling because it's like, well, wait a second.
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  Like there was so much joy out of like going to a restaurant
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  with my husband and sitting down and having a great steak.
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  And now it's just like, why bother?
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  Well, you see that on My 600 LB Life because that used to be our
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  jam too. We.
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  Eat ice cream. And watch my £600.
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  Life doctor now was the best. The best and you see that on
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  there where they take you take the joy out of food and then
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  it's like there's no reason for them to continue eating that
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  way. And and it feels like I wish I
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  don't have a lot of joy in the food anymore, like because it's
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  not very tasty. But but I still, I still eat and
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  I still eat everybody's food. Like I know Lily will stop
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  eating and I'll eat it. Lily and Kristen.
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  Will stop eating. And I'll eat it.
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  Stop doing that because. I know that so wasteful,
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  especially now where I'm in like like hold on to everything mode
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  that I'm not throwing anything away like I'll I'll eat whatever
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  you don't eat. So, you know, on the same vein
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  of this, because we had this talk today, like, is this an
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  older person experience? Do does, does everybody kind of
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  get to a point in their life where they realize like the food
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  isn't worth it? I'd rather eat at home.
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  But also it's like filtered into experiences too.
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  And we were talking about that like and I'm not trying to like
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  call anybody out. I feel like everybody should
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  know, has been aware of this. I think all the millennials,
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  anyway. But it's like, I'm going to use
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  a very specific example. So we've lived out here for six
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  years. We've never been to Tillamook
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  the factory. And they make all the cheese
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  there and the ice cream and it's a big thing.
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  And there's like this big cafeteria where they serve like
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  burgers and it always looks really good.
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  And I've always said like we need, we should go up to
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  Tillamook. We should go see what it.
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  Looks like everyone tells us to go to the yeah.
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  Go. To Tillamook.
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  Go yeah, take the tour. And so I was looking at it
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  online and it was like, have the VIP experience.
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  And I was like, OK. And I was like, what is that all
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  about? What does that entail?
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  And it was like, you get to see how ice cream's made.
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  And I was like. For 35.
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  Dollars for $35 a person or something like that don't quote
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  me on it but I was just like shouldn't that be part of the
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  tour like the VIP experience would be like come into our
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  kitchen get your hair net on you can make your own flavor of ice
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  cream I. Would feel very important.
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  If I just watched, like it should just be on the tour, like
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  I'm at the Tillamook Cheese and Ice Cream Factory.
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  Why did you decide that the making of the ice cream was the
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  VIP experience? And all I'm going to do is sit
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  there and listen to somebody talk about making ice cream.
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  And then maybe they'll give me a free scoop of something.
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  Maybe. I don't know.
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  But then they'll just be like, all right, adios.
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  It's just like, why isn't that general admission?
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  Yeah. Everyone does every Anything
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  that's mildly entertaining now is an extra upcharge.
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  And so it's just they must find that people like that the most
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  part of the tour, and they're like, well, we charge a little
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  bit more money because they're not, you know, not making
• 10:51
  enough. But this is what we were talking
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  about earlier today that I want to bring to you on the podcast
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  is this idea of like companies have lost the art of keeping a
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  customer. They're very good at creating a
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  customer and they. Create the buzz and they bring
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  the people in and they get all. The social media, right, like
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  they get these influence out there, the influencers film
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  themselves having these fabulous experiences, these fabulous
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  times, and then the the average person goes out there and they
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  get this absolutely mediocre at best experience.
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  And it's like the company was like, well, we got you.
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  And it's like, yes, but I'm never coming back.
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  I'm never, this isn't going to be an annual thing that I do
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  with my family. And that's.
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  Why I made? It a bad experience.
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  And that's why a lot of businesses go out of go out of
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  business. I know that's the first year.
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  Like, sure, you got the buzz that people are coming in, but
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  if they didn't have a good time while they were there, we're not
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  coming back. And so you told me about this
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  one guy on TikTok that focused on bringing customers back.
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  So he would give them free stuff as they on the first day if it
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  was. Their first He owned a
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  restaurant. Yeah.
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  And so he would give them, you know, give them a discount on
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  the next thing. And then so you start to build
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  like this, like rapport with people.
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  And then they keep coming because like, that's my jam,
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  that's my place. And if you also deliver good
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  food, because you can give away free food all you want, but if
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  it's gross, no ones coming back. It's true.
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  It's just little stuff like that.
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  It seems like nobody cares anymore, and like it does.
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  This is the old person rant that we have.
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  It's totally isn't. Please confirm any of this that
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  you hear in this podcast. Yeah, If you disagree, leave a
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  comment. If you agree, leave a comment
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  because I feel like I'm alone on an island here.
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  All of a sudden we've reached the age where just like
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  everything sucks like it. But it's also just that time.
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  This this post pandemic man has been really weird.
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  It's been weird, but it's also like, I blame so much of this on
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  the rise of social media because everything, everybody goes out
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  of their way and and uses creative editing to make things
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  look like just amazing experiences.
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  And maybe it's killed or at least dulled the part of my
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  brain where mediocracy is the expectation.
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  Yeah. You're.
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  OK with it. Yeah now I go into something
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  having my mind pre blown. I go, man, this is going to be
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  amazing because I saw this one person and they had this
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  wonderful experience and, and they cut out all the boring
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  stuff to make this really exciting video.
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  And so then when I come in and I'm not having like bam, bam,
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  bam, bam, bam, all these exciting things happen.
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  Like, I don't know, maybe, maybe that's what it is.
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  Maybe it's just a, a change in the dopamine centers of my
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  brain. I expect to be entertained or I
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  expect to have this fabulous time.
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  A. Lot of the stuff is not, it's
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  not a secret anymore. So when you see things like
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  that, where they go, oh, and then I went on this ride on the
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  rainbow and then I sat on a Unicorn and then burped glitter.
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  And you're like, oh, cool, I'm going to go there and I'm going
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  to sit on the rainbow and I'm going to see the thing in the
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  burps. Glitter.
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  But you already saw it. Yeah.
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  On social media. So it's nothing that's going to
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  blow your mind. You're now going expecting that.
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  And when you get there you go. I mean, it's not as cool the.
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  Unicorns not as white as I thought they would do.
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  The glitters not as sparkly as I thought it was going to be.
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  We're seeing too much of the things like, yeah, I don't.
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  Know the rainbow was more vibrant in their video, but they
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  probably put a filter on. It they increase the saturation
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  on it, so it's like, yeah, it's stuff, yeah, we're in a weird
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  time and we're at a weird age apparently for this, because I
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  don't know if this is just old people talking or, or if
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  everyone kind of feels the same. So, and this just really
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  confirms the fact that like, I don't want Lily to have access
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  to a phone or social media until she's like 16 because right now
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  when she goes places, it's the best day of her.
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  Life, even if we're like this. Is and I go, I look around and
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  I'm like, this is so junky and like, this is horrible and Oh my
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  gosh, like. The school's putting on like
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  what's the little like carnival or whatever?
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  It's just 5 tables with people playing basic ass games and
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  she's like wow, yeah they have one blow up slide that's like
• 14:40
  dirty. Yeah, and I'm like looking at it
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  and I'm like, this is a carnival.
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  She's having the best day of her life.
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  Yeah, So, OK, I think like we processed this out loud and
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  maybe it's like it's a combination of us expecting just
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  amazing things. And that's our problem.
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  But it's also because we're but we're we're being fed these
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  beautiful images, these beautiful, wonderful things,
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  these experiences through the magic of editing and filters and
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  all these things that could never live up to our
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  expectations. Like we could never go into it
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  and be and be as excited as the person in the video because, you
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  know, we've already. Seen it all 1st for the first
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  time. They're interesting and we're
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  also at an age where we've done a lot of stuff and so not a lot
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  of stuff. Wow, it's like it's.
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  Like, oh, you're gonna have to go a little further.
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  You have to add a little more than just salt and pepper to
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  this steak to make my panties go to the.
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  Floor. So yeah.
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  Exactly. I know, so I'm sorry, this was
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  just a complaining podcast. This was a very like get off my
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  lawn old person type of rant, but please let us know if we're
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  just the old people in the room now or if life has really just
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  kind of been dulled. Or are we on the on our way to
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  Depressionville because you don't want everything you.
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  Sound critically, clinically depressed and it's like.
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  Oh, someone needs to get you a job.
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  They're like, Tillamook was amazing.
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  I love Tillamook, although I yeah I don't like Tillamook.
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  I know you don't like the cheese.
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  Anything. I don't like the cheese, I don't
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  like the ice cream, I don't like yogurt.
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  I don't like anything from Tillamook.
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  Everything about Tillamook is gross.
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  I like, I don't mind Tillamook, like I don't mind the ice cream
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  and I've seen the burgers that they serve like because they
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  have this big outdoor pavilion where they serve like cheese
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  fries and cheeseburgers. All the things that make, they
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  make with the product. Yeah.
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  And like, it's fresh. It's made there, Yeah.
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  And it's like oozy and goozy and people are like, you know,
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  again, I'm seeing videos of people.
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  Like to put the cheese and. I'm going to go there and it's
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  going to be this flaccid piece of cheese.
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  Laying on a not even melting. Yeah, like on a, you know, like
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  lukewarm burger. And I'm going to just be like,
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  hey, everything. The stupid recorder.
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  The heart will go on where it's like you're, but you hear the
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  purr. Purr, purr, purr.
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  It's the JetBlue holiday, right? It's the like.
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  Yeah, all right. I think we're done complaining
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  now. Sorry, this was like such a
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  complaining. Episode more positive stuff on a
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  Friday. We'll see.
• 16:54
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