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B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast S2 Ep. 12 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome back to another edition of the Be Forever Cool podcast,
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  My Name Is Rex 45. My name is TJ with two rows and
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  coffee. What's going on, man?
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  How are things? Everything's getting colder.
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  It's it's that November weather kicking in, right.
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  I I see. I see the beard is the beard is
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  coming out so that I I know what that's like because for me, you
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  know when I was in Boston, you know after I stopped shaving
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  after September. So by the time December came, I
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  had a halfway decent beard. You know, I'm so used to wearing
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  hoodies or long sleeves just because I'm in New England.
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  Jealous. You're wearing that T-shirt
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  right now. I got you, man.
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  I got you. I'm going to be there in a few
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  days. I got, I got you for sure.
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  But yeah, I know. I was on a call earlier today
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  and or video call and and the people I were talking to man,
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  they were in Chicago and Boston and it was ski hats and sweaters
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  bro. Oh man, that's we got a brutal
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  5-6 months of this, so I guess we're getting ready for it now.
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  Yeah, listen, I can't talk. I was in Homestead this past
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  weekend and the past weekend Sunday and did a track day there
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  for the first time and you know it it it it was nice to drive 3
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  hours to Homestead, you know what I'm saying?
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  Because I'm used to 2830 hours when I was up that way, so.
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  How how? Let's talk about your, your
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  track day. I mean I know we're used to
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  drive in what an hour and a half, two hours with traffic.
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  Yeah it's allowed in and like I've been to New York safety
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  track it's about four hours. So.
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  So it's about that was a that was a long trip for me.
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  Yeah, yeah, you know, that's so. But I know you, you're used to,
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  you know, going long distance for tracks.
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  So how'd that feel to go to a track day and three hours away?
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  It it felt pretty good because it was a short track.
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  It was a short trip. And then then you know with with
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  the converted trailer, I used to stay in hotels, but now I stay
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  in RV parks, so. I thought there's a lot more
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  down there than up here soon. Yeah, for sure.
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  There there's there's stuff up north, but I think I don't know
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  what it's like once it gets cold, you know, but definitely
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  there's stuff up north. But you know, traveling and
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  staying at RV parks is RV. I don't think they call parks,
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  but you know campgrounds and and and RV places is definitely
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  different than staying in hotels.
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  For sure. One is cheaper and that's the
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  and and that's the best part. And you can come and go and then
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  you can cook your own food and do everything you need to do.
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  So that's the plus side of it all, you know, But it's
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  definitely different. There you go.
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  So I know you haven't been on the track since what Daytona?
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  So now you did you, did you have all your belongings and
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  everything went well? No, no, no.
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  Forget like tire warmers. No, I had tire warmers and
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  stuff, but definitely. And that's something.
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  It's weird, right? Because once you're in a
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  consistent season, you got all your stuff.
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  But I think I can't speak for everyone but for me not having a
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  consistent schedule. Yeah, I definitely, you know
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  forgot things. You know forgot tables and not
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  not. I mean I had to tie warmers.
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  I I had that. You know, I can check my tire
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  pressure. I have my toolbox.
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  You know what I'm saying? I, I, I I could ride, right.
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  But it it's the it's the ancillary stuff.
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  You know what I'm stuff, the stuff that you need, you know
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  what I'm saying? Not necessary to go riding, but
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  just to make your your weekend more comfortable.
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  You know, I got a nice red chair that you know you can sit in for
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  5-6 hours easily without getting you know, getting tired of it
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  type of thing. Probably even longer and like I
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  forgot that. And again, it's not the end of
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  the world, but it's creature comforts, right?
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  You know what? I mean, I know that chair.
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  That chair You used to brag about that chair a lot.
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  I sign that chair, right? That's crucial.
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  Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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  So, like forgetting those things.
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  So yeah, you know, it it it definitely and just, you know,
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  I'm from the racing background more than I am from the track
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  background, right. I didn't start out doing track
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  days. I jumped.
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  I mean a gym would point out you know even the classroom I
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  Penguin for the for the Friday before race weekend is is a
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  track day. But you know outside of that I
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  didn't do any for a while. So it still feels weird because
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  you know, you, you, you, you, almost you, your body, you know,
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  does this thing around race weekend for a lot of people,
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  regardless of whatever you're racing, regardless of basketball
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  or whatever, you know, it's that it's that fight or flight mode.
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  You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like things
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  start to happen to your body. You start to get into a certain
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  space and and your mindset and then all of a sudden it's just
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  like, oh, we're not racing. Yeah, that's true.
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  And it's just like oh like so for me it's it's a little
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  different because now it's kind of like it's it's practice.
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  You know it's like, OK go out there.
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  You know I'm going out there trying to you know I was going
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  out there literally trying to just pick through everybody and
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  and you know and I'm on I'm on my RC390 right.
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  And and a lot of big bikes out there and stuff like that.
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  You know, and and my mindset is like, I'll just catch the next
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  person, catch the next person instead of like am I working on
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  anything? I'm like, you know, like I'm not
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  working on anything. I'm just really just trying to
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  pick through traffic and and you know, catch whoever's in front
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  of me. Yeah, that's the go ahead.
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  OK. I was going to say that was
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  that's that's the tricky thing about a a track day.
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  You know some people take it as, you know, practicing to get up
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  to speed and you know trying to make passes and some people are
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  there just to work on things. And for your sake, you know
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  we're so used to racing. So like when we go to a track
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  day, we like it's. We have to find something to
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  work on you know because just so used to race.
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  Exactly. So it took a little bit to
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  settle in into like OK, like you know what I'm saying?
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  Like you got to work on something you know what I'm
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  saying? Like like you know whatever
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  apex, whatever. Figure out something but you got
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  to work on something because you know that's what it is and and
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  you know and it it. So that was that took a little
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  bit for my mind to get into that role and and and you know great
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  like I felt pretty good some good sessions I probably I may
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  even had my you know when I had some open track in front of me I
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  probably even got one of my fastest times on on the on the
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  KTM so I felt really good about that but it is interesting
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  because like I I signed up for the intermediate class my first
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  day at this track group but never used them before or
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  anything like that. So I really didn't know what to
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  expect or anything So I didn't want to go throw myself to the
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  wolves because in the X in the advance group there's you know
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  there's some rules but at the end of the day everybody knows
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  how to ride and and and I'm on a smaller bike so I took the
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  intermediate group. So that was a little bit
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  different because they're all different caliber of riders in
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  there and and and so for me and and and and and I'm pretty sure
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  people who have been doing track days and racing, I probably have
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  more experience with within me showing up and trying to figure
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  it out. But it's weird when I'm, you
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  know on the track with thousands.
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  You know what I mean? It is weird.
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  I almost wish that it was like OK, you know there's three
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  groups you know novice, intermediate in advance but it
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  almost and and and it could be a time thing or whatever could
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  could be but it almost should be breaking up by CCS to a level as
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  well because you know what are the biggest problems I had like
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  I can I can deal with. I can catch guys and gals in the
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  corners and stuff like that. But in a straightaway people
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  pull away from me but then they'll park it in into the into
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  the corners. So then you know and with the
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  rules you really can't pass as in a race.
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  So therefore I'm kind of stuck behind riders that I that you
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  know you know I I would want to get in front of you know by and
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  so by like you know there's I think there's like 7 or 8
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  sessions So you know by like the sixth session you know I was
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  just passing people on the outside.
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  I was just, it was just, it was it was one of those things like
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  like for me to get a really good lap, good laps and I, I had to
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  pass people. And still even even doing that I
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  still didn't get. I was still 3 seconds slower
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  than I what I was when I had no one in front of me.
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  So I had fun. It's a little different big, you
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  know, because you got to practice and there's all type of
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  writers on it, on on on it, and it's a whole different mindset.
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  But you know, I do like it and and I I plan to do more track
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  days regardless if it's with this place or somewhere else.
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  Discrepancy Because now you can't find things to work on
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  because someone's breaking too, you know they're passing on the
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  straight, and then they're breaking too early.
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  Now you got to adjust to their breaking instead of finding
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  something to work on, right? And let me tell you on on a on a
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  42 horsepower bike, it's different than when you're on
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  the R6. 'Cause you're like, hey bro, I'm
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  not breaking and I and I can't hurry up through the corner.
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  Yeah. And I can't gasp past them, you
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  know what I'm saying? Like that, you know, without it
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  making be, you know, it is what it is.
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  I I tended that, I had fun. It was I I felt really good on
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  the bike. You know, I I this bike I've
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  been dealing with all year trying to sort it out.
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  And you know this is the second Daytona was the first round that
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  I felt really good on a bike and then this round to follow it up
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  it, it felt good. Yeah.
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  So you know, I just saw the other day with CCS that they're
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  going to start combining classes, which is something
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  that, you know, for somebody who likes to do a lot of races,
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  that's going to be a problem because now it's just kind of
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  like there's 300 and 400 super bike races and then there's 300
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  and 400 super sport races. So now in a weekend, if I wanted
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  to do a race on my KTMI can either do the the 300 or the 400
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  or both, but only do one race and then there's a 400 GP and
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  then there's I think it's the GT Lite or the 501 of those things
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  for the the 20, the 24 minutes to 25 minute race.
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  So there's not a lot of options. So I'm kind of disappointed that
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  the races are now being combined together instead of keeping them
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  separate, which is something that you know for us.
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  Again, for for myself, I was hoping to do some 400 races and
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  some 300 races, but now I just got to pick, you know, one or
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  the other. Yeah, that's tough that they
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  decide to do something like that.
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  I mean that's one thing that I'm still trying to figure things
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  out is, you know the rule book. I mean we we all read part of
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  the rule book, but just for our like our class of bikes, only
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  things that we care about. Well, well, I mean like when I
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  first, when I first started, you know, I I knew about the rule
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  book, but I didn't know about the class of riding.
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  So my I started out in Penguin. Racing so I did.
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  I did a couple of races on there on a rented 400, so when the
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  following year came around I got the R6.
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  I deleted the 400 and everything out of the profile.
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  So when I signed, when I signed up for races, it still made me
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  sign up for racer 3 and four, which are which are races for
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  four hundreds and and lower. So I'm out there on A600 racing
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  with four hundreds and I get disqualified, you know, and I'm
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  just like for what you know. And they're like, oh, you got to
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  be in, you got to be in a racer 2 or racer one.
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  And I'm just like, OK, no, who's playing that to me?
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  So them taking them the classes in and out, you know, it's just
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  something that I hope is just playing a little bit better, so.
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  I don't understand why they would take out some races for
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  that particular class. So it's a little more
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  frustrating for you, right? Exactly.
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  You know, I don't know, maybe they're looking at numbers.
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  Maybe a lot of people don't sign up for the 300 races for the 400
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  races. Well a lot of people sign up for
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  the 400 races, so the ninjas probably probably doing better,
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  but you still got, you know the KTMS and and the R threes and
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  and the ninja 3 hundreds and the Hondas and stuff like that.
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  So it may be a consolidation thing, it may be a revamping
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  thing. You know, you know it, it you
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  know it. I don't want to sit here and
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  bash anyone because I don't know the the the reasoning behind it
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  but from a rider's perspective you know now I only the most I
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  can do on my bike is probably 4 races in a weekend outside of
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  Azra 400 if I'm racing CCS Azra now I I know if you look at
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  where we're in some of these other places I think the most is
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  probably 2 races each day if it's a two day round and stuff
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  like that If if you're racing a small bike and other bike so you
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  know I don't I know the insurance and out of it but it
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  definitely less races. Well, I mean, I know, I know.
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  Four races for me in a weekend. That's about a good amount.
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  Some people can do 6 to 8 and I just don't know how.
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  Yeah, oh man, that that's that's a lot, A lot of funs.
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  But it's it's, it's a lot also on the body.
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  Yeah. 4/4 races pretty good. That's what I usually try to do
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  on the weekend, but I don't know the size on the 400 is probably
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  a little. Easier on the body, A little
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  easier on the body for sure. Same thing though.
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  I mean you know, I, you know for the folks that won't like sign
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  up for a lot of races, Good luck to you, good luck to you.
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  That's all I can say. You know I've done 8 races in a
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  weekend, you know what I'm saying?
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  So I've done rounds where it is the the, you know, back in the
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  day, I can say back in the 8 now God is double there, there was a
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  Sprint round. So it's it's it's it would it's
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  double the weekend. So if you normally sign up for
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  four races, you know what I'm saying.
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  Now it's eight races 'cause it's the same race again the next day
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  type of thing. So I've I've done it and it can
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  be done. You know it can it can be done
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  and and you know folks who endure endurance races and stuff
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  like that it can be done. But realistically you know I I
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  I, you know I like to I like to relax a little bit and you know
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  I like to do 4/4 races four or five races is is I think it's a
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  good amount for me. I don't necessarily need to do
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  8I, I don't know. I just say I don't need to do 8
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  races because if those, if those rounds came back and it was
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  double, it was Sprint rounds, then I'd be doing them.
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  You just did them, you just knew you had to do them and stuff
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  like that. But realistically, yeah, I'm
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  okay with not doing 8 to 12 races in the weekend.
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  Well, if you're chasing, chasing championship points then.
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  That makes sense, right? You know you want to get as many
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  races as you can out there, right?
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  Overall championship points, Yeah, overall championship
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  points. If you're chasing that or if
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  you're just endurance junkie, you know, I'm saying because you
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  know, you know, you know, like, listen, some people want to do
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  them 100 mile, 100 something mile marathons and all that.
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  I'll do 26. I'm OK You know what I'm saying?
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  But you know what I'm saying. So you know they they they're
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  folks out there that you know they're into the endurance game
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  and and and and you know, I, I, I I dream about it.
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  I I think I can do it. But I've done.
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  I got a friend that allowed in who doesn't stay the night and
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  he just comes down on the race day.
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  He does the GTU and then he does the the dash and he's going
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  home. That's it.
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  Two races. Two races, the longest ones,
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  yeah. Yeah exactly.
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  And one day you know what I mean?
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  So I think for everyone it's it's it's a bit different for
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  sure but you know, I I don't you know I like the smaller bikes
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  you know I mean I like all of them.
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  I I don't think you know if I was racing earlier in my life
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  maybe I'll I'll be racing 1000. But I have no desire not to say
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  I have no desire to raise 1000, but I don't have a desire to
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  raise 1000. I mean, I would definitely take
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  1000 on a track day if I had a clear track.
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  But you know, I need like a, you know, like how they do like a
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  test day. Yeah, you know I need just like.
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  Couple people there, Nothing too crazy, right?
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  And you know, and so one of my hopes is to do track days in
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  Europe, right? That's one of my hopes And I'm
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  probably going to start out on my R6, but I, you know like
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  those tracks. I think you probably need to be
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  on a bigger bike because they just bigger tracks but small
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  tracks you know what I'm saying for me and in in in the fatigue
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  part of it because you know the the it's a lot of energy.
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  It is a lot of energy to ride those bike to brake and the gas.
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  It's it's it's all it's more it's the most fatigue you're
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  going to be. So you got to be in the shape
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  that you need to be in to ride those bike and you know some of
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  these tracks in the US I'm not I don't know what the numbers are
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  but a lot of tracks you know the the the lap records on 6
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  hundreds are very good. So you know what I'm saying and
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  and you know they're usually smaller bikes that you did the
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  lap work records are being set on so you know seven 5600 type
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  of thing. So you know it it it's one of
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  those things where you know if if if I can't ride the wheels
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  off of R6 or 600 bike or middle weight bike, what am I going to
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  1000 for? That is true.
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  So yeah, you got to you know try to master the scale at least on
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  the bike, bike you have before you move up, You know, that's
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  the proper way to do it. That is the proper way.
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  Like you know you got that bike coming down sideways doing all
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  type of things on that 600 like you're throwing it around like
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  it's a tricycle that when you're doing that then that makes
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  sense. But I, you know, I I find that
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  there are people riding big bikes that probably should be on
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  small bikes. There I said it.
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  I'm not going to upset some people, but it's you can see it.
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  Yeah, that's true. I mean you just want them to
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  develop a better skill as opposed to doing it that way.
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  But you know some some of those leader bikes are more rider
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  friendly nowadays. I rode A600 on the street for
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  seven years before I even thought about a 1000.
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  And and once I got the 1000, I was like, Oh yeah, now, like it
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  was just so much easier to understand, you know, But can't
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  speak for everybody. Nope, can't, can't speak for
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  everyone. And and the beautiful thing
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  about this country is that anybody can do whatever they
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  want to do. So I stay away from the thousand
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  to thousand classes and you know, even the six hundreds at
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  this point, give me the lightweight.
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  Give me the ultra lightweight bikes.
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  You know, I, you know, that's that's just where I am.
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  I do love, I do miss my 600 racing for sure.
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  Even at Homestead this past week, yesterday I was just kind
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  of like I should have brought that bike just to do some track
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  days and stuff like that, 'cause you know, it is, it is fun.
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  But the thing that you learn on these smaller bikes is, is, is
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  it gives you a little different kind of discipline because you
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  know you have to do all the right things to make the bike go
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  fast. You know what I'm saying?
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  And if you do all the right things on a small bike, it's
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  easier to transition up I think when you and and that's how it
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  is for me because I started on a racing SV650I went to a 600,
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  jacked myself up, figured I should sort things out and I
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  went to the R, the RC to to sort it all out.
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  And these last few years is is is been pretty good, feel really
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  good on the bike and it's also maybe faster on the 600.
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  I know on the track for sure racing lines and racing lines is
• 20:34
  very important. So you don't want to in the
• 20:38
  braking markers, you don't want to decrease that.
• 20:41
  You know what I'm saying? You want to you want to, like go
• 20:44
  faster and increase your braking markers and and and tighten your
• 20:49
  lines. So you don't want to start on,
• 20:52
  you know, a faster bucket and jump on something smaller and
• 20:55
  try to figure it out. Unless you've done it all right.
• 20:57
  So exactly and Speaking of big bikes, man, let's let's roll
• 21:00
  right into it. I we, you know let's go into
• 21:02
  into Moto GP because this past weekend it's pretty wild, man.
• 21:09
  Pretty wild. Are you Team?
• 21:12
  Are you Team Peko Or are you Team Martin?
• 21:14
  I'm Team Ducati, baby. Team Ducati oh, that's a that's
• 21:19
  a that's a a post on Moto GP site.
• 21:23
  Now they they're asking if you're a team you're rooting
• 21:26
  for. Right.
• 21:29
  I know. It's just close.
• 21:30
  It's just down to them too. I I also.
• 21:33
  I've said it before, Ducati wants Peco to win and I'm not a
• 21:40
  conspiracy theory and I am a Peco fan.
• 21:44
  But Jorge Martin performance on Sunday was suspect.
• 21:50
  Oh, hey, Andrea Bastini was like, I'm taking this, I think
• 21:54
  his, I think Martinez riding was OK.
• 21:58
  I think he just didn't have a great start.
• 22:03
  Come on, I mean like I. Mean you finished your fan?
• 22:07
  Come on, he he he finished what? 4th or 5th?
• 22:12
  5th Yeah. I mean, that track is like, it's
• 22:17
  all gas pretty much, yeah. It's like there's there's two
• 22:21
  long straights. I mean, there's a couple tight
• 22:24
  corners. He was off his game a little
• 22:26
  bit, but I mean he he didn't ride like a champion in this.
• 22:29
  Race, Right, Right. Right.
• 22:30
  So you you you showed the three the three bosses didn't go
• 22:33
  tinker with his bike at night. Uploaded some data just to say
• 22:37
  be slower than Pekko. I mean I mean during the the
• 22:42
  practice and and the qualify and he he he was he was out on pole
• 22:46
  for a second. I don't know what Alex Marquez
• 22:49
  was on but I don't know maybe that shook him up a little bit
• 22:55
  but yeah and who knows like maybe they tinkered it by a
• 22:58
  faction of a second. It was like, all right by Lat
• 23:03
  15, he's going to drift away, I promise.
• 23:06
  You know, because I I don't want to blame the rider because he's
• 23:09
  a fast guy. He's always been fast and it'd
• 23:12
  be one thing if he made a mistake, but it was one of those
• 23:14
  things like he even he was a little bit confused at the end,
• 23:19
  like, you know, not believe in his performance.
• 23:21
  And we all get like that for sure, but definitely.
• 23:27
  I was, you know, again, I'm rooting for Peco to win it.
• 23:30
  So I don't know why I'm I'm, I'm, I'm saying this, but I it
• 23:33
  just feels like, you know, if they want team order, they can
• 23:38
  have team order, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:40
  Because it's all Ducati. So they literally can just say,
• 23:43
  hey, we want Peco to win, period.
• 23:47
  I know one thing is when when when the race started and I saw
• 23:52
  that Ducati, that red Ducati out front, I thought it was PECO and
• 23:56
  it was in there. And I'm like what?
• 24:00
  I was surprised that that was because of PECO.
• 24:03
  I think because whatever media brought out there, that question
• 24:07
  that they brought saying if Martine joins, you know, the
• 24:11
  factory team and Peco was like, ah, no, that's not fair.
• 24:16
  I think he's scared to have Martine as a teammate.
• 24:18
  He's like, no, no, that's not fair.
• 24:19
  I don't. I don't think I mean.
• 24:21
  Think about it right. You know, no rider is scared of
• 24:24
  a teammate, right? Because if you're not going to
• 24:26
  be a Moto GP, World super Bike, you're not going to be anywhere
• 24:28
  if you're scared, right? So I don't, I don't think
• 24:31
  scared. I I I feel legally he's he's
• 24:36
  he's on the contract so they can't really get rid of them.
• 24:38
  And I know it's nice to talk about, but you can't really get
• 24:41
  rid of them. You know, it may be a situation
• 24:44
  like like pull Espogero where he's the backup, but it's still
• 24:48
  paying him his money because he's under contract.
• 24:50
  So I, you know, to switch back and forth, I think it's nice to
• 24:53
  talk about, but there's still contracts in place, so I don't
• 24:57
  know how much that's going to happen.
• 24:58
  I don't even think that's even fair for for Anaya.
• 25:01
  But Anaya could have passed Pekko on the Sprint, yeah?
• 25:05
  No, I don't think it was fair for Anaya.
• 25:06
  It was right for Pekko to say that.
• 25:08
  Yeah and and and and and he chose not to.
• 25:11
  He, he he, he he he chose not to because he understands like
• 25:15
  Ducati Factory wants to win. I mean they.
• 25:18
  They at this point they got Ducati is going to win
• 25:21
  regardless but they but but they want the factory to win right
• 25:25
  and and and and he chose to stay behind Petco for that and
• 25:29
  whatever they figured out whatever they figured out that
• 25:34
  the day that they had. They improved on it for Sunday
• 25:37
  and he was able to run away like he did.
• 25:40
  And which I'm happy to see because the dude was fast.
• 25:42
  The dude was fast like I was, you know, at at the beginning of
• 25:45
  the season. Like I thought it was going to
• 25:47
  be him and Pekko and then this is what we wanted to see.
• 25:50
  And then when Marini took him out, you know, you know,
• 25:54
  accident of course when he took him out that that was tough, you
• 25:59
  know what I'm saying? And then when he took himself
• 26:01
  out that was also tough and and you hear in his, in his, his
• 26:05
  speech. At the at the at the end of the
• 26:08
  race you know only his family his girlfriend his friends know
• 26:11
  what he had to go through and and it's like you know when you
• 26:15
  got when you have adversity like that and you and you have to get
• 26:18
  over stuff and then and there's people hunting for your job it's
• 26:21
  tough. And then and and to top all
• 26:23
  that, off with with, with with them saying what they're saying
• 26:26
  like, oh, the way he's riding, you know, he he should get a
• 26:29
  factory seat. And you know outside of Bazeki
• 26:32
  getting hurt Bazeki was riding just as good too right.
• 26:36
  You know what I'm saying And and and Bazeki was he's he still he
• 26:40
  stayed with with with with with with Valentino and he probably
• 26:45
  could have took Frankie's seat in in in Primack Zako's old seat
• 26:50
  right. Right.
• 26:50
  For he's not old because he's still riding it, but for 2024
• 26:54
  and and so you know, for them to say that, you know, I I guess
• 26:58
  it's the proper thing to say. And but and they won that seat
• 27:07
  and no fault of his own obviously the second crash was
• 27:10
  his fault but the first crash was not.
• 27:13
  And it's possible that the first crash probably LED up to the
• 27:15
  second crash because he's just trying to play catch up type of
• 27:19
  thing you know what I'm saying and and for them to say that was
• 27:22
  tough and then for him to come out and and and I you know we've
• 27:24
  all been watching seeing you know he's in a top 12 top ten
• 27:27
  top. It's like, oh man, oh man.
• 27:30
  And it from to do what he did. It's a it's, it was definitely a
• 27:33
  beautiful thing and I'm definitely happy for him, happy
• 27:36
  for him for the win and happy for him for, you know, you know,
• 27:40
  not overtaking his teammate, thinking about the the the the
• 27:43
  factory championship factory championship and not necessarily
• 27:46
  Ducati Championship. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:51
  Oh yeah. No he he rode great like I I he
• 27:55
  he was just on cruise control basically, you know, Right.
• 28:00
  I'm, I'm very happy for him. Like he said it was unfair for
• 28:05
  that that topic to come out to even put it Martin in in there
• 28:09
  in that situation to talk about it like that.
• 28:11
  You know especially like you said when someone goes down with
• 28:15
  an injury, you know the people are so unfair that they just
• 28:21
  like if if this Michael Jordan goes down with an injury or
• 28:23
  someone like that, like when he comes back, they expect them to
• 28:27
  be the exact same right away. And you know it's it's but they
• 28:32
  don't see that process that they have to build up on the on you
• 28:36
  know the outside or where you can't see them and expect them
• 28:41
  to come back to be the same. So I think when that topic came
• 28:45
  up whatever Pecko said just threw another fire under anaia
• 28:48
  he he just took off running. So I was happy to see that.
• 28:52
  And and he had to, he had to prove that he's still a good
• 28:55
  rider cause like couple rounds ago he was like in 20 seconds.
• 28:59
  Oh yeah, And you know, and you know, he's still dealing with
• 29:03
  his injuries. Yeah, definite, definitely.
• 29:06
  So I'm definitely happy for him. You know, I think Pekko's right
• 29:12
  in smart and but you know. The luck is on his side at the
• 29:24
  moment. You know what I'm saying?
• 29:26
  And you know there's only a couple more rounds for this
• 29:29
  year, so he just got to worry about this year.
• 29:31
  But next year, next year is is, is is anybody's game.
• 29:38
  Yeah, you got to come out right from the gate.
• 29:39
  I mean, that's what they all try to do.
• 29:41
  But you got to come out right from the gate.
• 29:44
  Gotcha. Gotcha.
• 29:46
  Yeah. Were there any any surprises
• 29:50
  over the over the weekend as far as Moto GP?
• 29:53
  You know, you know, Miller did fairly well.
• 29:58
  You know the the previous, the previous struggled.
• 30:02
  I think Fabio actually did really well.
• 30:05
  Like just to see the way he rode in practice and the times he was
• 30:09
  putting in and qualifying, he was actually on on pole for a
• 30:13
  little bit. But you know, that was going to
• 30:15
  go down after, you know, the price.
• 30:18
  But I think he rode really well for what he got because you
• 30:22
  haven't seen him up there fighting, you know, for, for a
• 30:28
  while. Yeah, Miller.
• 30:34
  I'm trying to figure out why he keeps drifting back.
• 30:36
  Like he drives really, really well.
• 30:39
  But, you know, like there's something that Brad Bender seems
• 30:45
  to be a little bit stronger. Yeah, a little more figured out.
• 30:49
  Obviously this is Jack Miller's first season, but you know, like
• 30:54
  when someone's super excited and when they start something, they
• 30:59
  give their most the best effort, right?
• 31:02
  So they might, they might get that little a jump on someone
• 31:04
  else. Yeah.
• 31:05
  And he seems to lose traction and fade back almost almost
• 31:09
  every race so. And and he had the same issue
• 31:11
  with Ducati. I don't know and you know this
• 31:14
  is a management of tire thing. I don't know if his tires alone,
• 31:17
  so I won't say that, but it it it it does.
• 31:22
  He's had this issue with Ducati as well and I you know and and
• 31:28
  it and. You know, at that level, you
• 31:30
  know it, it it, it is just, you know, just to hear of a
• 31:34
  difference, right? You know, just to hear of a
• 31:36
  difference on the trigger, to to to the, to to a different rider.
• 31:40
  So just just to save, just to save some life on a tire for two
• 31:45
  laps, you know? Exactly.
• 31:46
  So you know, there's definitely, you can see it in Moto 2 as
• 31:49
  well. There's definitely riders that
• 31:51
  you know at the end of the race chew the tire up way more than
• 31:54
  other riders, that type of thing.
• 31:57
  And he's. You know, I I I like, I'm a big
• 32:02
  fan of Jack Miller. I would love to see him win more
• 32:03
  races for sure but that is the one thing it it it is it's you
• 32:09
  know the end of the race is he he falls backwards instead of
• 32:13
  full. But granted there was a lot of
• 32:14
  other riders this past week and falling backwards too so he
• 32:17
  wasn't alone in that for sure. But you know, he he definitely
• 32:21
  helped KTM, you know, become a top five bike.
• 32:26
  But Oh yeah, he's he's somewhere you know, you know got shuffled
• 32:29
  back a little bit. Yeah, but overall I think they
• 32:34
  they he did well. We're looking forward to next
• 32:38
  round because you know it's one week away.
• 32:40
  They ride back on the bike. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to
• 32:45
  it, you know, and go ahead, I got.
• 32:46
  I was going to switch the mode too, but we're the same.
• 32:48
  Same here. That's what I said.
• 32:49
  Go ahead. Yeah.
• 32:50
  So you know, I like, I root for Aaron Connette all the time, and
• 32:55
  he didn't have a good weekend. No, congratulate Pedro Acosta
• 32:59
  for finally pulling out the championship.
• 33:02
  Woo Hoo. You know he is the 4th rider to
• 33:11
  Intermodal GP, winning the first two premier classes.
• 33:17
  Congratulations, Pedro Acosta. Right, he's a fourth rider.
• 33:20
  Valentino Rossi, Danny Pedroza and Mark Marquez.
• 33:27
  All three. Very good, right?
• 33:30
  And he is one of the youngest writers to do it as well.
• 33:34
  And, you know, pretty impressive.
• 33:38
  But also shout out to her, Mayor Aldogir, right?
• 33:42
  Oh yeah, you know, he's going to get that seat.
• 33:47
  Which seat are we talking about? Oh wait, my favorite Did they
• 33:53
  get offered a a seat for GP? Well, you know, the rumor mill
• 33:57
  has it that Luka Marini is being quoted for Mark Mark has his old
• 34:06
  seat. And if that does happen, if if
• 34:09
  Luka Marini goes to Repsol Honda, which has got to be some
• 34:13
  kind of vindication for Rossi somehow pay me the money
• 34:17
  somehow. It sounds like Fermi might move
• 34:21
  up to Luka Marini's old seat again.
• 34:24
  It's still 2023, so you know he's still riding the bike, but
• 34:29
  you know what I'm saying. So what do you think about it?
• 34:34
  Well, it sounds like he was also offered the the, the Repsol
• 34:39
  seat, so the fact that I think he turned that down.
• 34:42
  Or it was rumored. Same with Polis.
• 34:43
  Progro also was, you know, they were trying to bring him back to
• 34:48
  Honda and those guys didn't want it.
• 34:50
  So it'd be weird that a lot of riders don't want that seat.
• 34:54
  But Luca Marini, you know, is considering it and and it's also
• 34:59
  a way that they didn't offer it to Digin.
• 35:01
  Antonio. As well.
• 35:02
  So they must know something there that they're saying, hey,
• 35:06
  you know, we don't want Digen Antonio, we'd rather deal with
• 35:09
  Rossi even, you know, then deal with Digen Antonio, which is
• 35:13
  kind of also odd, you know, for if I was Luca Marini, they would
• 35:20
  have to offer me a four year deal with with a two year option
• 35:24
  after that. If, if, if you're going to, if
• 35:27
  you, if you want me to, how many crashes between Mir and and
• 35:32
  Marquez this year? Well over 50, yeah.
• 35:37
  Marquez is at 2728. Yeah, almost 50, yeah.
• 35:42
  If if you want me to do that, give me a four year deal, pay me
• 35:46
  a lot of money and give me a two year option at that because at
• 35:49
  least I know I can be a Moto GP for six years.
• 35:52
  You know what I'm saying? Because the one thing as you
• 35:55
  know, I feel bad. I mean even eco, even though Eco
• 35:57
  Luca One O is still on a Honda factory team in World Super
• 36:01
  Bike, Remy Gardner's in World Super Bike.
• 36:04
  You know what I'm saying? Like the owners, I mean, maybe
• 36:10
  always, but you know, there's some riders that I felt like
• 36:14
  just got treated pretty bad. Oh no, I shouldn't say pretty
• 36:17
  bad, but bad. And and and and it's one of
• 36:19
  those things like you don't want to go you don't want to give up
• 36:21
  a good seat that you have you know you're not the you're not
• 36:25
  pram Max so you know and you you you know like he's he's gotten
• 36:29
  poll he I don't think he's won a race yet but he's been on the
• 36:32
  podium Luca Marini and and it's a very good bike so outside of
• 36:37
  money like that mean I mean if Mark Marquez is willing to give
• 36:43
  up his factory seat to go to Grassini.
• 36:47
  Like you you know money is not it.
• 36:49
  Like money is not the end, all right.
• 36:51
  Because Marquez could have just stayed and got the money so I
• 36:55
  can't and and and his brother's is is Valentina Rossi.
• 36:58
  So I can't believe he's sitting here saying, well I'm going to
• 37:02
  go take the money so it it it has to be something more and
• 37:06
  sure when they turn that bike around again when they turn the
• 37:09
  bike around, because they will. I mean they got enough money
• 37:11
  that they will turn the bike around.
• 37:13
  There's, there's, there's, there's there's no question that
• 37:15
  Honda doesn't have the money. I I can't speak for Yamaha, but
• 37:17
  Honda definitely got the money. But you know, as a rider, you
• 37:23
  know you could stay with your brother.
• 37:24
  I don't know how long he could stay with his brother either
• 37:26
  because you know, there's young riders coming up.
• 37:28
  So obviously, you know, if if they're talking about it, having
• 37:32
  that conversation, it it has to be something greater.
• 37:35
  And I got to assume this guy's going to stay in Moto GP for a
• 37:37
  while because I don't think Rossi's going to have his
• 37:40
  brother get bounced out of Moto GP quick, you know what I'm
• 37:43
  saying? He's going to put up some
• 37:46
  dollars, make sure that don't happen.
• 37:48
  I can't see Luka Marini going worse.
• 37:52
  Yeah no, I don't think he will go to World Super Bike.
• 37:55
  But if he leaves you know VR46 Mooney and goes to Honda and
• 38:00
  Honda gets rid of him in a year and a half, two years or
• 38:02
  whatever the case may be And you got firm air on the on Mooney
• 38:08
  next year and then you got Bezeki on and if these guys do
• 38:11
  really well they might move up the class right and and and so
• 38:15
  forth and he still got young riders coming in.
• 38:19
  You know what I'm saying? There's still a lot of young
• 38:20
  riders out there and and and that that are really good.
• 38:23
  So you know it. It's very tricky.
• 38:26
  So I I don't know what's going to happen again.
• 38:30
  If he was to go, he knows he's might not be on the podium again
• 38:35
  and if he stays with VR46 there's a good chance he's going
• 38:37
  to be on the podium. But if he stays with, if he goes
• 38:39
  to Repsol, he may or may not be on the podium again.
• 38:43
  He may or may not have a pole position again.
• 38:45
  Yeah, I mean, they got to have to until they fix their fight.
• 38:50
  Honda will, but whether he's riding it is a different story.
• 38:56
  You know what I'm saying? So, so, yeah, so we'll see what
• 38:59
  happened. It was nice to see you from here
• 39:01
  when, like I said before, that's back-to-back, right?
• 39:05
  Yes, back-to-back. And you know, like I said
• 39:08
  before, I to me, on paper, to me, to me, he was a he was a
• 39:13
  better rider than than than Acosta.
• 39:16
  To me like and and coming out the Argentina before Silas Tina
• 39:20
  took him out last year and stuff like that like he he he he was
• 39:24
  up there and then you know I think he he had a bunch of bad
• 39:27
  luck last year. Not to say that Acosta didn't
• 39:30
  either. But he had more bad luck and he
• 39:33
  and he and and it took him a while to get his seat back, his
• 39:35
  feet back underneath him and he's there.
• 39:38
  And honestly if he's riding away, he's riding.
• 39:41
  Now who's going to catch him next year?
• 39:45
  Yeah, I mean yeah, now Acosta is leaving.
• 39:48
  I mean I know Pedro was trying to be safe.
• 39:51
  He. Beat the Costa by three, 4
• 39:55
  seconds. No, it says he he beat him by 7,
• 39:57
  seven. There you.
• 39:58
  Go. I'm.
• 39:59
  I'm, I'm, I'm making. I don't know what it is.
• 40:02
  I was going to say Pedro obviously knew he was going to
• 40:05
  win the championship so you don't want to make any type of
• 40:07
  mistake. So he knew he had it.
• 40:09
  One with, what's his name, Tony Arbolino.
• 40:13
  He had a crazy incident. Motorcycle racing.
• 40:17
  You gotta love it. That that, that turn 9, like
• 40:21
  there was what, 6 riders that didn't finish?
• 40:24
  Yeah, yeah. And and in one corner 2 riders
• 40:27
  crash at the same time. Yeah, oh.
• 40:30
  Yeah, and A and a Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy.
• 40:32
  Which was, Which was kind of spooky.
• 40:34
  It's like do you get?