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NFL Week 1 DFS Takedown Breakdown | September 8, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Lineup Review and Analysis · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: The system's going clear, the left up? What's up? Ember one?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo, and it's back.
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  Speaker 1: What's back? Your number two of the Takedown Breakdown gonna
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  Speaker 1: be breaking down all the week one DFS thoughts, got
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  Speaker 1: some DraftKings, actually have some fan duel lineup reviews, some
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  Speaker 1: community lineup reviews, and special guests today joining me here,
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  Speaker 1: my guy, Alex Blickel. He's got you fresh off a
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  Speaker 1: fifty K score, seventh place in the Mega MILLI yesterday
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  Speaker 1: with a single bullet and it was not an entry fee.
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  Speaker 1: It was built in off of a satellite ticket. So Alex,
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  Speaker 1: without further ado, Man, I'm gonna bring you in. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on? My man? Excited to have you here for
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  Speaker 1: this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be really fun.
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  Speaker 3: We always have a blast together on shows, and I
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  Speaker 3: think today's gonna be more the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny. When me and you were texting eleven,
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  Speaker 1: I had someone's like, oh, so you just bring the
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  Speaker 1: guy on because he wins the money. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: we've had shows before. Maybe more news on that later,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like, man, we were texting well before
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  Speaker 1: and this is like one of your favorite plays of
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  Speaker 1: the week that you like this week was Nico Collins.
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  Speaker 1: And when we get to the lineup review here shortly,
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  Speaker 1: this guy literally cost you nine hundred fifty thousands he
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  Speaker 1: needed If you got fifteen points from Nico Collins in
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  Speaker 1: that game, with those injuries, with everything going on, you
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  Speaker 1: ship the millie again. You see the sign. Everybody knows it,
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  Speaker 1: nobody cares work harder. You're you know, you've been speaking
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  Speaker 1: the same language as me forever on that stuff. You
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  Speaker 1: get it. But still in fifty k not bad for
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  Speaker 1: a week one. Talk to me a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the sweat yesterday and we'll get to the lineup here shortly.
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  Speaker 1: But Nico was your guy and he did not come through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say I'm not I have nothing against
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  Speaker 3: Nico Collins. I am very, very upset with their offensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 3: Like he just did antros entrocious job of getting Nico
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  Speaker 3: some easy touches, getting him in rhythm.
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  Speaker 2: It could have been a huge day.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, like you mentioned it, it's
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  Speaker 3: always worth like taking an actual, like real perspective on
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  Speaker 3: these things. Every single thing that needed to go my
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  Speaker 3: way in the early games went my way.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the things that I needed went my way.
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  Speaker 3: I can't be too upset that one or two things
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  Speaker 3: if you want include Brian Times Junior as well, did
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  Speaker 3: not go my way. It was it was a really
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  Speaker 3: fun day. It was really fun sweat. I got as
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  Speaker 3: high as fourth place for one hundred k, but it
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  Speaker 3: definitely felt for a lot of the day like I
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  Speaker 3: was the favorite to win the Millie because no one
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  Speaker 3: had more minutes remaining than I did starting the second
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  Speaker 3: wave of games that was ahead of me, and no
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  Speaker 3: one was more than like fifteen points ahead of me.
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  Speaker 3: And in addition to having more minutes remaining like my
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  Speaker 3: minutes for McCaffrey and Nico Collins, most of the people
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  Speaker 3: headed me with like a defense and Ricky piersoll a
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  Speaker 3: defense at Smith and Jigbo. So you know, the path
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  Speaker 3: was there for a million yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun and that's all you
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  Speaker 1: can do, right, That's what the show is all about.
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  Speaker 1: We talk a lot about review application. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: got DFS Mastermind. We have as the project over at
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  Speaker 1: ship a Nation. More on that in a bit as well,
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  Speaker 1: but just to note, like if you use the tools,
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  Speaker 1: you can find your way to put yourself in a position,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't just review today. I know it's we're
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  Speaker 1: all here for now, but Alex is actually gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: through his entire process for building a single bullet for
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  Speaker 1: a tournament of that high stakes, knowing all the other
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  Speaker 1: pros that are in it, that play full time and
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  Speaker 1: have multiple entries, how he thinks about his lineup build.
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  Speaker 1: And it was at Danny Dollars build who titled myself
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  Speaker 1: We're on the show yesterday we were making fun of that.
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  Speaker 1: You all went from Danny Pennies to Danny dimes to
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  Speaker 1: what Danny dollars. This could be the spot. But you
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  Speaker 1: had some amazing stuff pre show you were talking to
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  Speaker 1: me about, and we'll get to that. But guys, as usual,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna break it all down. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: the perfect lineup. Just see if there's anything we can
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  Speaker 1: see in that. It's not about you know, in NFL,
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  Speaker 1: it's very rare. You're seeing the optimal happen, right. You'll
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  Speaker 1: see you could be thirty fifty points off even, but
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  Speaker 1: the whole goal is still toil build accordingly, have your
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  Speaker 1: own process, get towards that, and you know, learn how
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  Speaker 1: to play not just focus on who to play. The
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  Speaker 1: how can help lead to the who, and then you
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  Speaker 1: got to get the results out of it. So we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk more on that. I think Alex is gonna do
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  Speaker 1: an incredible job breaking that down. We've got some member
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  Speaker 1: lineup reviews from the community later and then a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, a little bit of news later on that
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna bust down for you. So appreciate everyone being here.
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  Speaker 1: Join us for the rest of the show. Hit the like,
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  Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe. Alex, I'm gonna go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: pull this up here and see if we can swap
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  Speaker 1: it out. Let me just move my my stuff around quick.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the perfect lineup from yesterday and it
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  Speaker 1: was a justin Fields at quarterback. But I will say
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  Speaker 1: the interesting thing is, and we always talk about this
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  Speaker 1: in week one and the way it shows up it
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  Speaker 1: just sometimes goes this way is you know, you got
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  Speaker 1: Bijon Okay, it makes sense, Bejon with it with Igbuka.
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  Speaker 1: You got Christian McCaffrey with JSN. You know, people like
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  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels. You got a piece of that with Deebo Samuel,
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  Speaker 1: even though he was his old school Deebo Samuel, Like
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  Speaker 1: running an end around in for one one spot there,
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  Speaker 1: Phuka Nakua is in there, you know the Colts d
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  Speaker 1: There's there's a bunch of different stuff going on. What
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  Speaker 1: is your thoughts on this? This this perfect lineup for
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  Speaker 1: week one did use the max salary at fifty thousand
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  Speaker 1: as you see there, and it did hit two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and four points, whereas like the winner in your contest
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  Speaker 1: was you know, classic og Peter Gibbons, the men, he
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of stuff done yesterday in live finals,
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  Speaker 1: the you know the Millie all that, but he had
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  Speaker 1: I think one sixty one point four. We'll pull it
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  Speaker 1: up here in a bit. What's your first thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 1: I see some leverage points, I see some you know,
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  Speaker 1: some spots people talk about but don't be about. What's
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  Speaker 1: your first thoughts on it?
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  Speaker 3: I think the the thing that I see is that
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's there's no there's no stack things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So much of this is just it shows like how
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  Speaker 3: random football is. But the one consistent thing that I
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  Speaker 3: see in this lineup that I'm will he's trying to
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  Speaker 3: do is there's a very nice balance between high upside
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  Speaker 3: contrarian players and the high probability chok type player.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm even gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Put McCaffrey in that chalk type player mold, even though
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  Speaker 3: he ended up ten percent in the in the MILLI
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  Speaker 3: just because that was a weird like injury thing, Whereas
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  Speaker 3: you know, he would have been forty five percent if
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  Speaker 3: that calf report never came out. So you've got McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 3: you've got a Mecca, a Buka. A lot of the
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  Speaker 3: research that I've done over the last few years has
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  Speaker 3: shown that mega chalk wide receivers hit at a rate
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  Speaker 3: so much higher than any other chop type in any
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  Speaker 3: other position in NFL dfs, So Abuka was obviously a
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  Speaker 3: solid play. So yeah, I don't I don't have too
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  Speaker 3: many takeaways here. I just think it's you get the
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  Speaker 3: contrarian upside, you get the high probability plays, and together
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  Speaker 3: they often make for a really good lineups.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of the interesting things was with
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  Speaker 1: Field yesterday, not saying, you know, getting to him or
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  Speaker 1: going crazy with it, but the Steelers kept steaming up
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  Speaker 1: all week defense. So again, if you talk about leverage,
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  Speaker 1: you and I like talking about leverage, So if you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at that, that would be a spot where you
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  Speaker 1: could have got leverage in that way. It's not that
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  Speaker 1: you had to, but I understand it for sure. And
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  Speaker 1: obviously Garrett Wilson kind of stood out a little bit too.
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  Speaker 1: I know, if you use the stone over at ship
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  Speaker 1: in Nation, we had Garrett Wilson highlighted. Again, doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that you would get to it. But the point being
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  Speaker 1: when you're thinking about the slate as a whole, and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that more when we get to
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  Speaker 1: your lineup here shortly. But that's a thought process. Eg Buka,
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  Speaker 1: how do you get different people? It was criminal the
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  Speaker 1: Jon Robinson. Everybody wanted six k running backs. Bijeon was
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  Speaker 1: in there at eight thousand and I think he finished
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  Speaker 1: at twelve percent in like the main lottery, and that's
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  Speaker 1: like ninety percent of the field doesn't want this guy.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know, it's not even results oriented, like
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  Speaker 1: could have had a bad game too. Lots of guys
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  Speaker 1: had bad game, just saying it's just interesting to always
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  Speaker 1: see how weak one sets up. Eg Buka was by
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  Speaker 1: far the guy that everybody was talking about that we
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  Speaker 1: were saying, look, he's gonna be chalk relaxed, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be Okay, there's a clear reason there's no Godwin, there's
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  Speaker 1: no villain. He's got his own teammates, Sterling Shepherd. They're
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  Speaker 1: saying this guy is mini Godwin and he's priced wrong
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  Speaker 1: because it's we only because it's week one, So it's
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  Speaker 1: got to think about ways to get different. I know
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  Speaker 1: there's some lineup reviews are gonna do later that feature
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  Speaker 1: him almost you know, a tunnel lineups featured him today,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something to be said about that. I know
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  Speaker 1: you'll bring it up later with Egbuka and Drake London,
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  Speaker 1: which was very common pairing and going off of that,
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  Speaker 1: so Deebo Samuel fifty two hundred same price as Tet
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  Speaker 1: right Tet was in there, a lot of these other
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  Speaker 1: rookie receivers things like that that would make a ton
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  Speaker 1: of sense. And then Willie Kay brings it up in
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  Speaker 1: the chat. We again, we love talking about the leverage,
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  Speaker 1: leverage off the Kamaras steam. There is no hill, there
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  Speaker 1: is no moreau. Every snap rattler can't throw, you know,
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  Speaker 1: more than ten yards. That's kind of the setup that works.
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  Speaker 1: And then you use the San Francisco Seattle spot. If
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  Speaker 1: you like McCaffrey, you run it from JSN. Again, nobody
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  Speaker 1: got to this. This is way beyond what won most
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  Speaker 1: tournaments out there, but just to note it, you can
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  Speaker 1: still see some things in this lineup that you can
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  Speaker 1: use to build accordingly with and get different. I will
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  Speaker 1: say another big thing about this lineup and even the
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  Speaker 1: what lineups. A lot of the tournaments yesterday, I think
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  Speaker 1: yours would fit in the mold as well. They were
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  Speaker 1: really built for ceiling. And I know that sounds obvious
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  Speaker 1: to some and like, okay, thanks Tambo, good tips, like
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  Speaker 1: you gotta hit the ceiling in a million maker. It's
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  Speaker 1: not about the obvious. It's saying I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff with the chalk got paired up too commonly,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you have some combatorial ownership stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you can look at. We talk about that a ton
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  Speaker 1: in the PGA streets as well, which is where we're
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  Speaker 1: usually doing our shows. But I have I've told you men,
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  Speaker 1: you're sharp across all sports. You've got an amazing DFS
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: mind and especially when it comes to single entry, and
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  Speaker 1: I just can't wait to get your process here in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. On your lineup. We talked pre show
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  Speaker 1: a little, but it's a good one. And so with
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  Speaker 1: that said, it's like this lineup, well, okay, book is
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  Speaker 1: the chalk, but we knew he did have this ceiling,
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  Speaker 1: Like there was definitely an outcome to get to twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: Someone will say, like some of these other guys were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people mentioned Puka didn't get to them.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people mentioned JSN didn't get to him.
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  Speaker 1: Bijon McCaffrey. Fields can put up thirty points. I mean
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  Speaker 1: if he put up twenty, he could have put up
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  Speaker 1: fifteen here still won the Millionmaker or something like. It's
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the point across all this. You can
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  Speaker 1: dock some of these guys. So I'm and say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: Juwan kind of went off. He could have got ten. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: go to twenty, go to ten, go to seven. You
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  Speaker 1: still have a shitload of points and win in the
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  Speaker 1: Millionmakers out there. So it's hard to put it all together.
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  Speaker 1: But there was some mini correlations. There was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ceilings, and there was stuff that made sense here.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to hit on before we beat
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  Speaker 1: it to death and just you know, move on to
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  Speaker 1: the next thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the last thing I'll say here is if you
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  Speaker 3: did have a really strong feeling about fields, and if
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  Speaker 3: you did want if you did land on fields in
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  Speaker 3: part because you wanted to leverage Pittsburgh, like, one of
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  Speaker 3: the very easy things you could have done is you
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  Speaker 3: could have had Reesehall and or Garrett Wilson in this
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  Speaker 3: lineup as well, and like neither of them made this optimal,
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  Speaker 3: But if you put Reesehall in for any of these
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  Speaker 3: running backs, if you put Garrett Wilson in for any
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  Speaker 3: of these receivers, and of course it would probably be
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  Speaker 3: like a two v two or maybe even a three
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  Speaker 3: v three somewhere in the lineup. If you did that,
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  Speaker 3: you were going to be really really close to this score. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: both of those guys crush. So even though this optimal
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  Speaker 3: didn't have correlation, stacking fields still would have worked quite well.
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  Speaker 3: And you could have also had a bringback like Metcalf
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  Speaker 3: didn't quite get there, but he very easily could have
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  Speaker 3: right Rogers th four touchdowns over the odds that they
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  Speaker 3: were all going to go to just like random scrubs
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  Speaker 3: like Calvin Austin was completely unknown, and I think he
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  Speaker 3: was like wide receiver six or something on the slate,
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  Speaker 3: So you very well could have done even a double
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  Speaker 3: stack with a bringback ended up very close to this score,
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  Speaker 3: So even though the optimal wasn't stacked, it still would
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  Speaker 3: have made a lot of sense to stacking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on
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  Speaker 1: this because obviously most people are are DK focused, but
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  Speaker 1: I will bring it up. Shout up to my guy
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  Speaker 1: big Ed always here supporting, We appreciate you. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: look at this. The one thing I'll say different that
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: stands out right away. It's a lot of it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the same guys, right, it's you know, look
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  Speaker 1: justin Field's Bijon and Google who broke the sleigh, broke
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  Speaker 1: the slate. It kind of all makes sense for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, Puka, but this one, you know, two hundred
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  Speaker 1: bucks shy gets everything else on there. But I will
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  Speaker 1: note that this is more set up right, like this
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  Speaker 1: is your stack here, This is your you know, instead
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: of Brian Thomas Junior, who is a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: popular in some places, not super popular because again price
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  Speaker 1: tag on DraftKings, but you know, instead of using him,
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  Speaker 1: it goes here. Deebo still fits in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people like Jayden Daniels myself included. That was a way
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  Speaker 1: to get after it with him, But then a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff this is a secondary stack Brock Bauers pooka.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say on this site, and it is true.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if we're looking for sealing PPR scores, but
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  Speaker 1: twenty plus points the thirty play, can they get the
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  Speaker 1: thirty type thing on DraftKings. This is gonna be more
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  Speaker 1: on fan duel where you're looking for those touchdowns, right,
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  Speaker 1: Can can justin fields throw for two and run one
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  Speaker 1: in or run two in and throw for one? Yes?
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Could the one be to Garrett Wilson? Could it be two? Possibly? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: these are possibilities. Could Deebo run one in and catch one? Possibly?
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  Speaker 1: But if we get one, I'm always like counting touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: on this site, and I'm saying, like, in reality the
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  Speaker 1: highest price defense and Denver versus you know, Rookie cam
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  Speaker 1: Ward who looked pretty good. Still, I mean that that
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  Speaker 1: could be a touchdown. Poop can be two. Brock Bawers
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  Speaker 1: can be too. These are people are like, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: all of them to get we know that that's the
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  Speaker 1: outcome of how you win a million dollars. I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: would it be crazy to think Brock Bauers can score
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  Speaker 1: two touchdowns? No, Garrett Wilson two debo, call it one.
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  Speaker 1: He's old. You want to dock him for the old
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  Speaker 1: man now and he's got a senior on his name
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  Speaker 1: and make himself look even older. Bazell just one of
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  Speaker 1: those you know, in your thirties and you dye your
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  Speaker 1: hair gray, like all right, well, just you're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: that to me. They don't expect people not to call
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  Speaker 1: me old. Hey, Buka, can he score a touchdown? Yes? Bijon?
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  Speaker 1: Can he score five? No? Maybe not five, but two
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  Speaker 1: or three? Yes? Eten Junior. This was super more of
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  Speaker 1: like a product of the optimal. I know people were
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: worried about Bigsby one of the takeaways I had and
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: thought here and big edds back in there saying, who
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  Speaker 1: would have thought he'd be that's a risk you take.
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  Speaker 1: But if you think about the lineup as a whole,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: if you just take the chalky or sorry, the low
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  Speaker 1: owned stack of fields in Wilson against a popular Steelers defense,
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  Speaker 1: you can basically just say, okay, secondary stack, some fill
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  Speaker 1: ins and some leverage and it fits the best d
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  Speaker 1: on the slate. But the thing about Etn Junior definitely
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  Speaker 1: a risk of your play was all to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Cohen and that offense and everything coming in there, and
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  Speaker 1: then a lot of comps from sharper players out there
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  Speaker 1: and people in the industry and analysts and whatnot, talking
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  Speaker 1: about Bucky Irving the way he got his points all
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  Speaker 1: season last year, and how ETN Junior would kind of
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  Speaker 1: fit that mold if somebody was to do so. And
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I know there was one huge run on the outside
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: there and that's kind of what Bucky used to do.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: It was reminiscent of that. So while others could have
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: popped in and stole his thunder again, you wouldn't have
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: needed it, wouldn't necessarily needed this. There was definitely other
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: guys you could have went to here and filled the spot.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: I also the ATN was also just a product of
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: the matchup, which I will talk a lot about when
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: we get to my lineup with Indianapolis. But I mean,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: we have a DVAA adjusted Fantasy points against data over
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: at FT and fantasy and last year at Carolina allowed
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: eight point three more Fantasy points per game than their
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: opponent's average at the running back position. It was far
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: and away the best matchup for any position in the league.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: So going right to that one, made a lot of
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: sets with ATM.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and check to my guy Naid's usually joining me
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: on this show this season. Get a little bit of
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: a different setup. We're bringing in some guests. Knaves will
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: be back for other versions, but just to note it,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: he says this as well, very very true, very popular.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: And another thing if you are going to be playing
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel, like big Ed mention and part of the review,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: we'll get to the setup here with Alex in a
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: second for his Mega Milli Maker, but part of the
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: setup is looking for leverage off both sites. Like you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was really steaming up on DraftKings. Well, fields can
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: still make sense on both sites. He can rush touchdowns.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: He's still only seventy two hundred, which is a low
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: priced quarterback on FanDuel versus on DraftKings that would be
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the highest price or whatever when Jayden's seven K. So
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: it's different pricing obviously with ten k more to spend
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel, but that leverage off ATILA, a lot of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: people wanted that game and wanted Brian Thomas Junior or
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: looking at those secondary receivers. By the way, Brenton Strange
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: had a good game, could have done something different there
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: as well. You just never know, Like this line up
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: probably could add Brenton Strange at tight end and Christian
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey at running back or something and still got different
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: bases covered. So I think that's what can happen. And
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: that's one things I would say you want to look at.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: But let's move on. You know we're gonna go to
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: your line up here in a second. I will show
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: this off just because we don't show it on the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: show anymore on Sundays. I know you guys have your
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: tools over at FTN, You've got stuff in your discord.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: You'll you'll talk more about that, I'm sure throughout and
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: at the end. But everyone wanted that isn't a member
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: that wants to see the stone. We could show it
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the day after now to give you a, you know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a sort of taste of what you're missing out on.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: We had a lot of these spots designated and then
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: you can go through and it's all color coded on
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the stone to see. But I know you're gonna love
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: some Michael Pittman Junior, he was right there almost and again,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: this ownership was slightly off because more lottery versus the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: main slide. But you were monitoring this stuff quite heavily,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that the steam that was coming to these guys, and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it was definitely downs getting more love. But you see,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: like Ceiling, almost the exact same. The leverage was better
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: on Michael Pittman already due to the ownership. Tyler Warren
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: popped up. We talked about Danny Jones being in a
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: spot and if you weren't gonna play Jonathan Taylor and
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: other spots. So lots of different things you can do.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But if you want to try out the stone, go
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: to ship at nation dot com. Make sure you get
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: that and you'll be in the discord right away. All right,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: let's look at yours. I usually work up on this show, Alex,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: going from like the yesterday would be the five dollars
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to one hundred. There's a crazy dip, you know, shout
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: at the petty theft. One of the best to ever
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: do it, especially in the NBA df S streets retired
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: now he says from from the NBA DFS, but I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: know he took or at least we'll double check it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: When I last looked, he took a nine hundred K
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: hit on that last Denver play of the game, the
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: three point swap, So that sucked. Hate to see that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Obviously a good guy like Petty, but just to note it,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I mean everyone, that's what these tournaments are, right. You
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: can't and he wouldn't be he's been playing as a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: pro for years. But it's like you're not counting your
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: money until the end because all those things can happen.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It's even crazier in showdown. We'll be back by the
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: way two pm Eastern hoop title and myself breaking down
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: tonight's game with the Vikings and the Bear should be
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a fun one there. But Jim Blickel, it's almost like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: what what's the Washington's full name again? It's like Jacorey Brisket.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Corey Krossky, Marrit, Yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Crosky Marrit, Yeah. I call him Jack Cory. This guy
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: they call Bill, This is Alex Blickel, but he goes
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: by Jim blikel in the DF streets. I'm not sure
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: if there's a story there that I've missed out on
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: all along, but there's your seventh place line up. We
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: are going to go backwards today and start with you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: There is a story. It's it's not a good one.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: It's when I was man was I maybe a freshman
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: in college. My dad was in the Draft Kings League
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: with a couple buddies, like they were planning on doing
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the league.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: They decided not to do the league. My dad had
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars in the account. He was like, I'm not
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: going to use this. You want to take this over?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And I said sure, not realizing I would never ever
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: ever be able to change that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Usernads stuck with it for good, full name government shit
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: right on there and just run with it. Yeah, it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: all good, none that it matters. These days, they can
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: find anything. I saw like a you know, you scroll
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the feeds at night, just bored as hell and you
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: see something pop up. It's like, don't take pictures of
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: your kids. They'll be turned into like AI bots and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: used against him. Like there's literally a billion kids pictures
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: on the internet already, Like you're not stopping that is
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: basically like shaming parents and putting kids pictures online again
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to each their own. And I'm just saying, it's pretty
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: tricky to keep your name and stuff out of it
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: these days. But here you are. We're gonna work backwards,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: not only from the tournament. Again, guys, I know not
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: everybody plays in the forty four to forty four Megamillie,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, and I've told a story a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: million times. I don't either. The way to stay sustainable
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: in DFS is to play tournaments that you feel comfortable in,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: are good for your mindset, are within your bankroll. I'll
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: play it when I win a ticket to it. Spoiler alert,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Alex want a ticket to this. I don't think he's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: buying into five K tournaments. Often it's with satellites, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: we're gonna spend a little bit more. Well, maybe go
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: on a little walk down Satellite Street here in a
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: little bit and talk about that. I know people know
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: about Narrative Street, but we'll go down Satellite Street in
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But I'm gonna start with you. In seventh.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: We will look at Peter Gibbons, we will look at
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Shady Advice, YODICAO, Fantas, sin rs Bathla JBC, all these
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: guys that are there. There's a ton of amazing players
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: up top, but your lineups here, Alex, So do me
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: a favor. I think people are gonna want to know
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of things. One, how you got to Daniel Jones.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: That's just the more common one. But then the other
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: thing I want to know is about the breakdown of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like one lineup versus most of the pros I think
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: had up to thirty, right, I think thirty was the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: max yesterday? So how do you treat it? And that's
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the part I want people to be able to extrapolate
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: backwards from. If you're usually a twenty dollars tournament player
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: or twenty five dollars single entry player, you can apply
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: these thoughts in single entry, but it's better and usually
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: helps more when you're applying it to Okay, I'm usually
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a twenty five dollars single entry player, but now I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just want a nine dollars satellite to get in a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: five point fifty five milli maker, and everyone has one
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty teams. How do I play one lineup
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: versus single entry. There's a big difference in the sense
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of obviously one versus a lot of people having one
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: fifty in this case thirty, but this is also almost
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: five grand. It's the best players in the world. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'll let you take it away. Let's talk to this here.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of the best place to
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: start here.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I think where I'll start is I wrote the Miami
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: chapter of the FTN Almanac, and I had a line
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: in there, and just for some background information, we basically
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: do like two waves of chapters. We said it because
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: otherwise the editors get overwhelmed, and so this was one
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: of the earlier chapters, and I had a line in
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the Miami portion where I said, like, this defense and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: particularly the secondary, is a disaster waiting to happen. They
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: had no depth, they didn't have enough talent. And then
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks later, Jalen Ramsey got traded and
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: they went from a disaster waiting to happen to a disaster.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And then we got to the preseason and two season
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: ending injuries happened to the secondary on top of what
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I already thought was the disaster of the secondary. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I knew coming in, like Miami's a team I want
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to attack kind of as often as possible.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: I didn't know exactly how I wanted to attack them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Then I let ownership and everything and just finding ways
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: to leverage kind of guide me because I'm always looking
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: for not just football reasons to play, guys, but we're
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: playing the game of DFS, right, We're not playing fantasy football.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: We're playing the game of DFS. So there were two
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: things that really helped me get to Daniel Jones on
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: top of just wanting to attack Miami. The first was
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I had the highest ownership projection I do all our
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: ownership and all our projections over at FT and Fantasy.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I had the highest ownership projection in the industry on
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor. I had him at twenty five point seven percent.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He came in at thirty one percent, So that was
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: kind of right on the money. I think the industry
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: average for him was all the way down like fifteen
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: percent owned. So being that right about Taylor really helped
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: me not just leverage Taylor, but it also told me
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and showed me, Okay, if Taylor's the one steaming, then
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Daniel Jones stacks can't steam themselves, right, Like, I never
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: want to have the guy that I think is going
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: to be ten percent owned the slight starts I look
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: in and oh god, my quarterbacks in twenty five percent
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: of laps, right, So having that protection for the steam
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: because it was Taylor that was going to get the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: steam was really important. And then to kind of closed
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: this out, and you mentioned like, how do you play
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: single bullets when so many other people have so many options?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I knew.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Danie gol Zones was still going to be in around
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: eight percent lanes. I think he ended up in something
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: like ten percent. So I knew there were going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: be a lot of Daniel Jones lamps that I had
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to be. Well, I really didn't see any reason why
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Josh Downs should be getting all of the love instead
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: of Michael Pittman. We actually had Pittman projected better and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: at much lower ownership. And one of the things I
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: told you beforehand is I actually loved like looking back
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: at contests and seeing combinatorial ownership and what I call
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: conditional ownership. In sixty seven percent of Daniel Jones stacks,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Josh Downs was included. That's a massive, massive number. Simply
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: by not using Josh Downs in a Daniel Jones sack,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: you were getting significantly more unique than just using Daniel Jones.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: So I wanted Pittman, and then I also really wanted
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Tyler Warren because I felt like, hey, if there's a
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: tight end on the slate that is going to have
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: a huge role that we don't that we can't project
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: that role for coming into the week. Tyler Warren, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: is certainly up there. He even got a carry in
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: the game, and it seems like he's going to have
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: some opportunities for carries around the goal line too this year.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be surprised if he ends up with two
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: or three rushing touchdowns at the end of the season.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: So Daniel Jones, Tyler Warren, Michael Pittman. Pittman was in
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: forty three percent of Daniel Jones stacks. Tyler Warren was
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: in fifteen and a half percent of Daniel Jones stacks,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So that double was extremely unique.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I had the a Chan bring back. So yeah, it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: just felt like.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Number one from a football perspective, I was in an
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: awesome spot because I was attacking what I believe could
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: be a historically bad defense all season, and then it
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: was really cheap across the board, which allowed me to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: pay up for some really high probability contrarian plays that
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I loved, even if Nico Collins did not.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Come through on that.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: But but yeah, I felt like it was it was
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: leveraging all of the right things. It was really high
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: probability in and of itself, and it had a really
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: good chance to kind of separate.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: From the field. Yeah, So I mean it sounds amazing
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: because it sounds like how you do a sort of
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: reverse engineer, and this is going to go into exactly
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what I want to talk about in a second, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: that's why we'll spend a little bit of time on this.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: This should help people regardless of this the buy in
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: that they're playing, but you know, reverse engineering the thought
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of how people are playing and then being able to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: put that thought into play here to say, look, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: only got one, but it's going to be my best
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: effort at it with some really good thoughts based on
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: how people are playing the game and then applying some
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: of your quote unquote no ball and our guy Sheets
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: over at ship Nation always talks about that as well.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: The people that actually, you know, know DFS and know
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit bit of ball. When you can combine
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the two of those together, that's the best case scenario.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: And you're kind of a genius at it based on
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: how you just broke it out, Like that's just the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: thought process you're going through. So it's amazing to hear
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: from somebody directly how they're doing it. The one thing
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I'll say is like, I guess what people might ask
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: is if they're going to smack up this d defense,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: do you like, what's the thought around a Chan still
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: getting there? Like let's say these guys really do go
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: off and they're up eighteen or up seventeen, twenty one, nothing,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Do you think did you just
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: think a Chan could still stay in the mix or
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: was you you were hoping he was going to get
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: things started and force those guys to speed up.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: No, So the a Chan play was was also kind
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: of following the analysis that I did for the Ft
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and Amanac, where I have very little faith that Miami
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: is ever going to be able to throw the ball
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: downfield again, at least this iteration of Miami. And so
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you then also say John neu Smith is gone, Darren
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Waller is out.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Where are those short targets going?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: They had to go to a chant And so I
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: felt like I was in a really good shape here
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: where like regardless of the game script, this was going
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: to work out well with the correlation was going to
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: be fantastic. I think one mistake that people make it
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: and We're going to talk more about this very quickly
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: with with Drake London and a Mecca book is. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: think people make the mistake of automatically assuming that guys
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: who are.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: In the same game are positively correlated.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: They here, it's important to game stack, it's imporant to ministack.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: So if they're in the same game, I'm going to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: click them and I'm gonna get some correlation advantage. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: think you really have to think through the actual game
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: itself and how the correlation can play out. And so
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: with a Chan, I felt like, okay, number one, he's
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: an explosive play threat. If he happens to hit on
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: one of those explosive plays, my Indianapolis stack hits the
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: ball back immediately. But then also, if my Indianapolis stack
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: gets up to a big start and Miami has to
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: speed things up, they're not gonna be able to throw
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the ball downfield.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: They're gonna have to check it down a lot.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I thought Hm, quite frankly, was going to be even
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: more involved in the receiving game than he was. Part
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: of that was Tua was just atrocious, and he kept
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: targeting eight Chan in the flat and kept making like
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: awful throws. So a couple of drive vendors that you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Ahn not only would have had two or three more receptions,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: but also Miami would have kept the ball and then
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: had more scoring opportunities, which could have ended up.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Pushing Indianapolis even more. So it could have been even bigger.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: But I also feel like I did luck out a
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: little bit with that late a Chant touchdown, because it
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: looked like he was going to be, you know, a
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins pype bust for a lot of the games.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of the other things too that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you just said that it's so important is like, also
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you know gamescript independent in your mind, like gamescript independent
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: where it's like, even if he gets down, he's got away,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: but he also could be what sets it off. And
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: so when you can find that and that takes up
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: three of your spots already and you know it's at three, five,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: eight percent whatever it might be, it's like, damn, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: can kind of do whatever I want. And that's how
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you can get to a guy like that. Go collect asked.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I will say this too, It would be amazing if
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: there was a place I could talk with you about
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: this before the slate started that's what I'm thinking in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the back of my mind right now. But as far
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: as right now goes, it says, Alex, did you ever
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: consider moving off CMC and Nico when you saw how
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the first game, first wave of games played out. Can
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: imagine not because they played out really good and those
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: are like Nico is your favorite guy, and CMC was
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: now healthy and playing. But I'll let you give this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Part of it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Part of my answer is no, because I felt like
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the McCaffrey ownership number one, I hadn't projected it. I
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: think seventeen percent at the end might have been even higher,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: like nineteen percent. But I thought it was a massive
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: mistake from the field to be as low on McCaffrey
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: as they were because of that report. If it was
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: any other player in any other situation, that exact injury report,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: including the calf, would have taken a guy from like
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I had him projected at forty plus percent before that report.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: It would have taken him from forty to I don't know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: thirty to thirty five percent. The fact that it went
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: as low as it did, I think was just a
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: massive of reaction and shows like I remember, I think
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: it was dick Meyer on etr was talking about like
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: best ball brain, and to me, this was just an
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: extension of how many people like believe McCaffrey can't make
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: it through an entire season. We don't need him to
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: make it through an entire season. We just needed to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: make it through one game. So I felt like he
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: was incredibly under owned, and at that point I didn't.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Care necessarily about the ownership.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I cared about just the expectation, and I felt like
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: he was far and away the highest probability play anywhere
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: in that range. In the second wave of games, I
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: did consider coming off Nico Collins, and had I been
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: able to get to Jamiir Gibbs, I probably would have,
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: But as you can see, I didn't have the salary
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: for that. So I did it cross my mind to,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: like at least think about who I could pivot to. Yes,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: But it never got to one where like I was
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: thinking about a one v one because you know, it
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: could have been Josh Jacobs didn't want to do that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It could have been I'm on Ross Saint Brown didn't
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: want to do that. And as as Kimball alluded to,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: like I loved Nico Collins, I didn't just love him
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: for the ownership. I thought that he was one of
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the highest projected players of the slay. The Rams really
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: really struggled with outside wide receivers last year, and I
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: did not think they did anything personnel wise to adjust
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: They did actually.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Employ like a very similar strategy against AJ Brown as
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: they did to Nico Collins, So maybe I could have
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: taken something from that to be a little bit more
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: hesitant on it. But like I said at the beginning,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I don't think this was a Nico Collins failure. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: think this was a Houston offensive ordinator failure. To that point,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: if you want to criticize me for my Collins confidence,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I think the better question is why was I that
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: confident in the Houston offensive coordinator to counter any strong
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: LA game plans. I don't have a good answer for that,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: But I really liked Nico Collins, so I didn't really
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: consider coming off of it. But I think you're right
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: to say, like, Hey, given the position I was in,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: could I have pivoted if I had more.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Salary flexibility? I would have looked at.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Some more on if there was more available. So I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: think the key was, like, if you're in anytime someone's
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: in that position with a morning that goes almost perfect,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you definitely should be looking like that's what the whole
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: point is where people talk about there's still edge with
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: ladswop and so many people avoid it. That's the prime spot.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You just had almost the perfect runout outside of Brian Thomas, which,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: by the way, that game got suspended for quite some times,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: so it's like you would have been sitting staring at
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: him thinking, oh, at least he's coming back with all
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: this time left, I got him. Nico McCaffrey left, like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a good spot here, so
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you can look at it, but you can't move on Thomas.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So I'd be thinking, like, what am I I'm not
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: changing anything, like you know, I'm looking at it for sure,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: but I'm with you, I'm leaving it as is. This
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: was also an injury spot. There was a ton of
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: opportunity there for him and your tricky stuff, Like would
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: have been McCaffrey to Gibbs and have to drop Nico
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Collins down to a seven K option like I don't
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's I would have just left it as as myself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: But it's definitely a good point people brought up to be.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: One other thing I'll say here is earlier in the
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: week when I when I was confident that the mccafrey
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: was going to be the highest on player on the slate.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: My game plan coming in was I was going to
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: have McCaffrey in the flex and if I needed to
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: catch up, I was going to swot McCaffrey to Nico Collins.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So like that was actually part of my early week
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: game plan.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And then when when the McCaffrey Asury report came out
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I was like, oh my god,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: McCaffrey's going to be the highest projective player on the
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: slate by three points and he's going to be under
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Then I just wanted to happen both.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, last thing I want to say on this one
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: lineup and then I'll move on because you broke it
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: down phenomenally. This is the other thing I look at
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: is like when you have Warren with Daniel Jones and
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a Chan and all this stuff. Now let's go back
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for a second to compare exposures, and you had this
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: ownership kind of beefed up going in, Like you said,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: one of the things is at BUKA in London. That's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: another talking point for this slate. Anyway, we'll see it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: another lineup, So let's just wait till we get there
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: for that point, because I think it's a really good
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: one you have. But if you're moving and leveraging Jonathan
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Taylor into the other spot, it's also interesting that the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: tight end, so that's to Daniel Jones, the tight end
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that goes with him, and again reviewing before you submit
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: your lineups, not just after, you end up seeing that
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Warren can fit in here at forty four hundred, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you double leverage this, decide to leave out London, which
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: is good for at Buka, which the way you set
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it up, and then you still see a chan here.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: So it's like kind of the thought process, like I
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: can leverage this, leverage this, will use this, still use that,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: but not use him. Comboed up and probably the highestoned
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: combo on the entire slate. I know you have that there.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I can still get Brian Thomas. And that's where when
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, but they just played all the chalk.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I mean you literally did not play all the chalk.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You go back one last time, but eight ten, five, three,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: five ten, and even those nine point nines and whatnot
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: seemed like Nico. I'm surprised he even got to ten. Honestly,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I know he had the injury and stuff, but he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: could have been five to ten INN ranges going in.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: So just little things like that that I think are
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: somewhat interesting.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: We have some really good contest data. When you're using
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: the FTN Optimizer. You can look at the analysis tab
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: on the lineup stage and you can see things like.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Historically or this might.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Even be just like in the last couple of years,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: something like eighty percent of top ten or top five
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: finishes in big tournaments include at least two players under
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: five percent owned, compared to only like fifty percent of
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: overall lineups do that. So you're getting massive mass of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: like it's basically it's just it's a really winning trend
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: to have at least two players under five percent in
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: your lineup. And so I really liked the fact that,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: you know, I had three guys who were close to
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: being under five percent or had a chance to be
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: under five percent, and I think maybe all three ended
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: up being that the Raiders defense and then Pittman and Warrant.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: So one additional point I want to make about that
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: is I love the fact that two of my potential
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: under five percent guys were actually correlated. Right, It's it's
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: hard to hit on multiple guys under two percent. It's
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: easier if you're counting on the same game environment kind
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: of taking off of those guys, and it worked that
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: way for me where those guys were both Like the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: feature part of the offense was it was clear after
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: one drive that I had the right colts and that
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Downs was the wrong colt. So I think that is
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: another point, like when you're going either super cheap in
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: your lineup or when you're going super controlling in your lineup,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: if you can make those really cheap or really contrairing
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: pieces correlated, it really boosts the potential that your whole line.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Well, let's segue that right into Peter Gibbons, the winning lineup,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: who obviously a legend incredible DFS player, probably one of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: the most underrated. Those who know definitely know. But I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: mean as far as like others out there, they would
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: automatically just assume Uticaz the ma Glove is all there.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think Utica is the best, and there's tons of
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: different things you can say about all these players, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Gibbons just shows up time and time again, and congrats
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to him. He's an awesome dude. Met him at a
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: ton of Live finals. Brings his wife, good good, good person,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: just great person all around. And you talked about pairing
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: these up point seven point one, like just like that,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: there's your spot, by the way, whatever else people want
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: to say about the lineup, then you can just get
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: to everybody. Kamara twenty five percent, Connor is twenty seven
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and in the same game London thirty seven and Muka
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: forty one. Craft is still different, but still different at
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the bottom. I'm just saying, like when people are like, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: how can you just jam all the chalk and win?
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You play a point seven, a point one, a five,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a ten or two and you get there that way.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And even if you change his lineup, you know, up
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: seven hundred bucks here and he's got a hundred left
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: on the table and bring like he could have went
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: to Rams and and Djoku and I think he still
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: wins by zero point one or something like. It's again,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: he could have played even more or not Rams sorry
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Raiders like you had at twenty six hundred and got
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: ten and I think in Jok who got like seven
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: point five or somethings gonna be very close, so or
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: at least be right there. Now, he didn't do that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying to show you that's how you get
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: away with it. It ties in perfectly with your point
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: you brought up before. So anything else you see here,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned a little bit about the London
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Egbuka stuff, but anything else you see with this one
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: as we go through, you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Know what I see here.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I see the fact that he was like I think,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: probably ten points behind me going a late wave of games,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: and it was Craft in the Rams against Nico Collins,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: and Craft in the Rams outscored Nico.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Collins by more than ten points, and that's killing to me.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: But other than that, I think I think you said,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: really well, this is obviously a really strong line up
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and leveraged the Pittsburgh defense and then also went to
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a contrarie defense in a pretty similar price range.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: So a lot of really really smart things in his life.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I was surprise there.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: That's what makes it tricky too, And you know, like, yeah,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you're blocked, McCaffrey, but you have an amazing head to
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: head I know, like Craft is in there too, But
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: like the Rams against Nico Collins and Nico can score
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: and they could still score points too, But at least
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you hope that he has a big game and it
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: goes off from there. Everybody knows Shady advice incredible, like
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: all these players are incredible. Shady's no different, but Daniel Jones,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Pittman and then fill it out like Neighbors was definitely different.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Running the combo pack. I've talked about this a ton
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: on the shows. If you're not gonna run like a
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: CMC or something, he's got Kittle and Piercell down there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: If you're not gonna play Burrow, Chase Brown, Higgins, Jamar Chase,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of these Browns were getting a little bit
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: of love. He went with the Cleveland d at min
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Price against them, so I think that's interesting. But yeah,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like he had a close call. There is anything you
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: see with this one particularly. I just see that there's
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like a few lower owned plays obviously making it up,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: but he's on Daniel Jones Pittman stack like you.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to be certain about this.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I asked him.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I never spoken to him, but I would bet that
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the Kittle Piersoll double there was a late swap decision.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty confident that he didn't go into the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: slate saying I'm definitely playing both Kittle and pearsall without
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Rock Purty. I think he probably said, you know what,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of McCaffrey lineups near me that
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I have to leverage. I can't fit him myself, so
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I want to leverage those guys so I have a
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: chance to get up to the top. And because I'm
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: near the top, I don't need ceiling performances from both
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: my tight end and my flex.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I just need good performances.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: And if one of them has a ceiling performance and
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the other just is okay, that will also get the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: job done for me. So I'm pretty confident in saying
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: that the Kittle Piersoll was a late swap choice and
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: not something he went into the slate saying he was
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: going to do.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: But I could be wrong about that. Maybe he just
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: felt really good about them without Purty for some reason.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, But like I said.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: I'm I would bet pretty good money if that was
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: a late swap decision.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: It's definitely possible, and I think that's something that not
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: enough people think about. But like you said, again, you
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: know Shady's playing to win the million dollars. Our guy,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Nate said, Kittle hurt Shady more than me. He was
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: an injury. They got him there. But I think to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: your point, like that's kind of the setup as well,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like win it. If he's gonna come up short, it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: nice to still win two hundred grand on a Sunday
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: under grand. It's like, it's not about the Kittle stuff.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Think people are gonna confused because I just brought that
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: common up. I'm saying to your point of looking forward,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna switch to the ceiling that just you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: know if I he doesn't need to win by fifty
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: points to say like, oh, if I get there, I'm
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: gonna win by a bunch. It's it's not about how
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: much how much you win by, it's about how much
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you win. And when you're talking about six figure scores
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: up to a million for all the top five prizes,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it's a way to do both, right. You basically just
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: de risk yourself to say, without even risking it at all,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna win the million. You can easily
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: still win the MILLI he was right there to win
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the Millie and had a big injury in his lineup,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: but he gave himself both grounds. It's like, I'm gonna
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: win two hundred k plus hopefully, but I still can
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: really crush and win the MILLI. Here. This is the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: this is the lineup combo that puts me in the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: best position. Again, maybe he didn't swap, but maybe he did.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: So if you guys like what we're talking about here,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the other lineups in that in
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: a second. But one thing I want to note for
• 40:58
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• 41:01
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• 41:03
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• 41:05
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• 41:07
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• 41:09
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• 41:12
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• 41:16
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• 41:20
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• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a ton more information on the stuff that we're talking
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: about here and breaking down going down to Uticao, who
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: everybody knows he had a pretty McCaffrey Kittle no, sorry
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: JSN runback and then he had like Marv Harrison ted
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor with the indid Like this was still pretty
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: correlated spending the money but still had one two really
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, Marv was kind of low for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: this tournament Kittles fair, but like JSN, nobody was really
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: on and this was I thought a pretty sneaky way
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to get to him while still playing some of the chalk.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: What else is new? Like Udicow knows that to sort
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of use these plays to his advantage. What did you
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: think of this one? Because I think it's more correlated
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: than what will typically you know, or it's as correlates
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: what will typically see what I'm saying like there was
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of good game theory and thought process behind
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: how he did it, like no James Connor, but instead
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: has Marvin Harrison able to play the two wide receivers
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: in this spot together by getting different with a wide
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: receiver in the flex like you did and going to JSN.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So what do you see with this lineup? How does
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: this one shake out for you?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it's really about correlated.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: It also goes to show like I can't be that
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: upset about Nico Collins underwhelming when literally two guys ahead
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: of me had George Kittle leave the game right away, right,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: So bad.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Breaks happen all the time. Obviously a lot really went
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: my way.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: But I think one of the things that I want
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: to think about more this year is this idea of
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: pairing quarterbacks with running backs. Yeah, and I think I
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: saw eleven of the twelve games on this slate went
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: under their totals, and so this ended up being a
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: really good slate to have the quarterback running back stack.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Because essentially, what you're saying is, Okay, if all of
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: the games are going to underwhelm, if there's not going
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: to be an offense that if there aren't going to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: be multiple offenses that really go off, if I can
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: find the one offense that scores thirty five points, I mentionine,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: if like Buffalo or Baltimore were on yesterday's slate, if
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: you just had a bunch of those guys like Lamar
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: and Henry and Ze Flowers, you would have crushed because
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: the offense in and of itself is just creating so
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: many more fantasy points than any other. So even though
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: you think like, oh, if you have Purty, I want
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: or if you have McCaffrey, you want him scoring while
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: a rushing touchdown hurts Purty, okay, but if they score
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: five touchdowns as a team, there's room. So it's something
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: I want to think through more. And it's especially valuable,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: I think when that running back can also catch a
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: lot of passes and catch a touchdown, which of course
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: could help Purty as well. So yeah, I thought this
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: was a really smart lineup. And I also like the
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: fact that he went to JSN instead of Kenneth Walker,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: who I thought was one of the worst place in
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the slate ownership.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a difference to the hundred bucks there and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: he didn't have it anyway, but just to note it.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But I do think that's another interesting thing. Kind of
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: went with the London piece from earlier, and we'll be
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: spending way less time on the other lineups this week.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I think this is way more valuable getting your actual process,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: breaking it down and us being able to sort of
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: go through it all. But like for JSN to be
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: for this all to make sense, it's you build it
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: like this. If Brock Purty, CMC and George Kittle are cooking,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have JSN need to be involved. On the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: other side, if JSN gets rolling early, they're gonna be
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: coming back. And who do you think they're gonna be
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: going through? That's their best skill players. So like again
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to others that see it, are like, well, clearly that
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: made sense, Like, well, let's do it. Let's get after that.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: You should be doing in your builds and fighting for
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty seven plus points with the Kittle
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: injury and other guys in there that could have done more,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Like Shady also had the Kittle blocker, but he has
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Purty Shady didn't have him. Who else had? There was
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: CMCs up there, but of all the combos, the Brock
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and JSN stuff, that would have been enough to bring
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: him up to the top. Right, So lots of opportunity
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: new there for you to with that spot as well.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and also, like let's say that he felt like
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: he needed more of a ceiling from the party stag,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: then maybe he goes from McCaffrey to a Gibbs or
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: a Jacobs or something like that and then says, Okay,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: now now I can get the forty point performance from
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: from Gibbs and the thirty five point performance from party
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: or something like that. So yeah, I thought that was
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: another really well thought out on it.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I talked about Mastermind earlier. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: got they gave me ship for it last week. I'll
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: call him out shout out to ship my Money DFS. Yeah.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I think he's a good guy. But he said, you know,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about learning from Uticao, why
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: don't you go check out the site where you can
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: actually see him. Man, it's just simple, simple, Like Alex
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and I are going through, is this a free show?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: We break it all down every week reviewing this. Obviously
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: we have Mastermind that has some stuff that you can
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: pay for for additional but if you want to see
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: how guys like Uticao win and looking through process and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: even more in depth of this stuff, that's what the
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Mastermind project that Ship a Nation is all about. So,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, you can go to the site, you
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: can get the free corps, or you can jump over
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and get involved to see more. But that's what we're
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: looking at. How these guys are playing. All these guys
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: are good fantasym My buddy Gillome, he just won six
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty K in the baseball the thirty three
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to thirty three MEGA a couple of weeks ago. He's
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: always in the mix for a ton of different stuff.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: He came in second at the Fantasy Golf World Championship
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: last year, not the most recent, for six hundred K,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: like he's won million makers. This is his lineup quickly.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: But Daniel Jones Pittman just like you, McCaffrey, the same, Agbuka,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the same. Slightly different variation of where you were at.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: But I think the lineup still tells the story and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense. Not sure what fully I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: mean again, he was probably feeling a pretty good later on.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: He had Josh Jacobs still going, which was different than
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you guys. So there was opportunity for a lot of
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: people up there at the end of this slate, as
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: there usually is. But this was a good back and forth.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I like this build though, Jones Pittman don't need to
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: run it back the London Nigmuka, the Kamara McBride. You
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: get two good running backs in McCaffrey and Jacobs. He'd
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: played the Giants and he could have played Cleveland and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it only would have been a point. More so it
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: wouldn't matter. But I think either of those were fine.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, if you're not on Jayden Daniels, I talk
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: about this all the time, why not use them? They
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: have a good pass rush. It makes sense if you're
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: not on any of the Sincy stuff, why not Cleveland
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: at Home in the dog poun Miles Garrett, cetera. It's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: possible as well. Any any thoughts on this lineup and
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: then we'll keep it moving.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a perfect way to bring
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: up the Abukah stuff I alluded to earlier.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: So this is the second, maybe even.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: The third lineup that we've seen that has the Ibuco
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: London pairing that finished above me and I want to
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: talk about that pairing because there's obviously value and merit
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: to using these like mini correlations, these mini steps, but
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think people think through them well enough where
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think of Buka and Drake London were positively
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: correlated unless you got into the type of game environment
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: where you would want that full game stack, you'd want
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: either a Baker double or a Penix double. So having
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: them that just like just London and a Buka I
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: thought was going to be massively overhewned because there there
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: wasn't going to be the type of positive correlation you're
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: looking for from them. And I knew that their combinatorial
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: ownership was going to be really high. Like if you
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: just take their two ownerships together and you and you
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: just like randomly put them in the lineups without any consideration,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: they'd be in something like fifteen percent of lineups together.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: They weren't twenty percent of lineups together. So it's it's
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: like so many people are clicking both of them because
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: they want that quote unquote correlation that I don't believe
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: is there. So I felt like a really really good
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: approach to the slate was to use one of the two,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: and my preference was at Buka because he had less
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: price competition, Like there wasn't anyone in his range other
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: than Pittman who I used that I felt really good about,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Whereas there were a lot of receivers in the Drake
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: London range that I felt really good about, particularly Brian
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, and so like, just like Nico Collins, let
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: me down, if Brian Tummas Junior had a better game,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: he ended up with nine Fantasy points, if he had
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: nineteen Fantasy points, I'm also lead rogging all of those
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: London and Booga combinations, and that's the thing that would
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: have won mellion million dollars. That's something that I spent
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of time in my discord talking about, something
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: that I started talking about a ton in PGA. Like
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: there were times where I think it was like Matt
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick we can talk about here because I know so
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: much of your audience is also a PGA fan. But
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: like Matt Fitzpatrick was the chalk of the slate, and
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: yet using him and secondary chalk right below him in
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Price was in.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Like one percent of lineups, and I think it was
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: in the Scottish Open. So it was Fitzpatrick, Ryan Fox
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: and Harry Hall.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick and Fox was in one percent of labs, Fitzpatrick
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: and Hall was in one percent of labs. Fox and
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Hall was in five percent of lineups together. Like people
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: make these really really interesting psychological decisions where they say, Okay,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: I don't want the chalk, so I'm not playing Fitzpatrick,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: and so instead of using the chalk and a pivot,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: they play both pivots at a much much higher rate
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: than Fitzpatrick.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: With either or the other two.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: We see a lot of that in NFL, and I
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: thought that this Abuca London pairing was a really good
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: example of just an.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Over owned combination that was very easy.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: To leverage with other chockey players like Brian Thomas Junior
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: also twenty three percent owned instead of being twenty percent
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: owned with a book of Brian Thomas and a book
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: of were only in eight percent of lineups, so much
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: much lower combinatorial ownership, even though Thomas was also chalking himself.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: So that's the kind of thing that I talk a
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: ton about in my discord, and I think a really
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: important point there is that's leveraging all of the people
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: who are using contest sims in a in a bit
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: of an overrelying way. So it's it's something that I
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: think is becoming more and more important with every year.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Of NFL defense.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even though you typically will find those percentages
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: out after Locke, right, those are ones that you will
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: find out after Again, if you're reviewing stuff in advance,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you can start to sort of figure it out on
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: your own. It's almost like a different angle of attack.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: And it's what we preach all the time talking about
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it's how to play, not who to play. I talk about.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: It's not who you play, it's how you play them.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: These are one liners, but people just confuse them with like, oh,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: just a funny one liner, like nobody cares work hard,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like he's making up a quote. It's actually things that
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: professional DFS players are thinking about. These are part of
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: whether it's built into their spreadsheet, whether it's within sabersim
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: or the contest sims you've got, or any whatever they're using.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of this thought process that's going into it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Your inputs are your outputs. Another one liner for you,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: but it's exactly true. And when you start to think
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: about those things, that's how you can find different angles
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: of attack, like you said, and leverage if you will,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: from there. So we'll keep using that word leverage. So
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: we'll see Gerald, if only there was a place that
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: we could talk about this more and figure this out,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that maybe here in a little bit.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Going to one hundred dollars quickly and then we're gonna
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: get to some just breeze through it quickly. This was
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: what I was telling you about. So lots of good
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: players up here. The you know, a better lineup for
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Peter Gibbons than what his his main line. It was
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: one sixty one that won the Milli and won all
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the world championship seats and whatnot. But in this he
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: had a different outlier that was there. Hishbu's the man.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: He's a really good player. He had a great lineup.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Mamola has been around forever. Poor Petty theft. Like I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: said it was, it wasn't just Denver though, because Denver
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: added three at the end. It must have been Pierceil
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: as well or Puka because he had an Indie onslaught.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: He had Daniel Jonesapple playing with the running back together
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Pittman and the indid Vijon Cuba as the leverage to Tet.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I liked that one quite a bit. He didn't even
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: really have a great game and he still scored great
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: so I was like, man, like that guy could have
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: done a lot more played at BUCA, but not with
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: not with London. And I also liked Sutton. So I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: liked Sutton, and I liked Brian Thomas junior. Brian Thomas
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Junior only nine points. Well, they those two were kind
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: of the ranger. I liked there as well, and I
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like bo Nicks as well. With Sutton, so it just
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: didn't pan out. But I thought that was at least
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: somewhat interesting. Anything to add on these spots here. I
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: know we've already talked through a ton of it.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: So in my discord at eleven thirty, I put the
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: put combinations Abuka and Neighbors, Abuka BTJ, Abukah and Higgins,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Abuka and Sutton. I did not pick the right one.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Sutton was the right one as to pivot off of London. So, man,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: there's there's a lot in Petty's lineup that like fits
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: exactly what I was talked about, including of course betting
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: very heavily against this Miami team.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely a thought. I mean, we already talked
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: through these. It's interesting Henderson popped in there. But I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: know there was some people playing Drake May so maybe
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: you know thought processes there with weather and you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: get a guy on the ground fifty five hundred, it
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna be in a good spot. But
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the rest of this lineup is basically just you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: a single stack, let's run it. We'll go against that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: We'll play the best d in Denver. On paper, it
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean what it was actually did score really well,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: just noting it, I thought Tillman and the Warren, that's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: like a mini flip, right, If you're not gonna play
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: downs and in Djoku or Pittman and you're not using
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: those guys with their quarterback anyway, why not play this
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: is where like it's almost like what you talked about earlier.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: It's another thought around this commentorial ownership. I'm saying, like, Okay,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: they're not even in the same game or correlated, but
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: this is you know, I read this from your stuff
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: last year, And why I think you're just so sharp
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: at figuring this stuff out is like you tell the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: story kind of like how I tell it. Good storytellers,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: like you could say it and help others understand it. Well,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Warren and Tillman aren't in the same game, aren't in
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the same position, Like there's literally nothing. So to the
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: average player, they'd be like, what the hell are you
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: talking about? The conversation stems around. We know that in
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Djoko was super popular at tight end. We knew that
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: if people were picking a forty four hundred dollars range,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: he was forty six hundred dollars wide receiver, a lot
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: could go to downs. If they weren't going to Aguka,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: and in this case, I'm using Downs because they just
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: flipped it and said, how can I do all this differently?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And however it works out is how it works out,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: we don't know. But the thought process going in is
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the way to get a little bit unique is that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Warren at tight end as opposed to Enjoku, and you'll
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: playing a lower owned guy there, and then a wide
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: receiver playing Tilman instead of Downs whoever else. Now Pittman
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: could have worked even better. I'm just saying it's just
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the thought process of that is. I think not enough,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: not enough people think about that when they're building their lineups.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: And I know you can add on, yeah, I think
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: the key there is it's this idea that obviously we
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: have to be right about who we play to get
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: a takedown, but there's also this like hidden element of
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: we also need to be right about who we don't play,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: because if who we don't play goes off, we're gonna
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: get past even if even if our guys do well.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: So if you were right about Tyler Warren here, you're
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: also right about your decision to not play Josh Downs,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: and you're right about your decision to not playing Joku. Similarly,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: if you're right about the Tilman play, you're right about
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: your decision to not playing Joku, to not play Jerry Judy,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: and to not play Josh Downs. So all of that,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I think is is really well said by you, and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and it becomes a lot easier to understand how this
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: is all connected when you realize that you also have
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: to be right about who you do not play.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the best example I think it was last year
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Bucky Irving was chalk. He was in a really great spot.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, it was like he was literally the
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: best chalk on the slate by far. If you look
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: at like you know, some of the stuff we use
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I was talking about, the stone is like you could
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: see yesterday. I'll go down to CMC for a second.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: We had him pegged that there was some thought process
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: going in and he could be injured. Obviously came up
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: good in the morning, but we had him around thirteen
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: point four percent. We liked him fourteen and a half
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: percent of the time. He already knew he was going.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Bucky last year in this spot that I'm talking about
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: was over twenty. Then he was in like he was
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: just in the nut spot. It happened sometimes and it
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: was like just a really good slate for him, And
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: then everyone was mad because he only got twenty three
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and Sean Tucker came in and got like thirty. But
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: like if you didn't have Sean Tucker, first of all,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: like nobody there was maybe twenty thirty lineups in the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: whole tournament of one hundred and fifty thousand plus people
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that had Sean Tucker. They didn't. They were just so
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it was so unlikely they were going to get there.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: You should be you should be you're worse off, or
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you should be more pissed off if you don't have
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the guy that gets there and crushes and you should
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: have had them. And others caught on to it, versus
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: being mad that you didn't get the guy behind them
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: or mad that they ate BUCkies lunch. It was like
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Bucky still ended up in winning lineups, so on and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: so forth. So all that to say, it's like you
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: nailed the point. You kind of got to think about
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: it from a few different angles really quickly. I think
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: there was too many entries I forgot this from last year.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: They don't really even the oh sorry, I gotta swap
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: my screen chair. I apologize, but we're gonna go to
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the line of reviews because time, and because the five
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: dollars is actually not in because it's eight hundred thousand
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: entries and it freezes up the system and breaks everything
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: on their end, So they usually don't put that in
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: unless it's later that they bring it up. But my
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: guy New's I think was here earlier. He's submitted his lineup.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: It was a Drake May said, nothing like a nice
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Monday review. Give us your thoughts on this one, Alyx,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: We got Drake May and stick around just a little
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: bit longer with those guys and know we usually end
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, but we do have
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: some big news still to drop that I think you're
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be excited about if you like this show and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: go collect says, I have missed this show so much.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: People love this show. Breaking it down. I think you
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and I do a good job, you know, together in general.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: But here's what Drake May line up. Give me your
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this one. You know, not necessarily results oriented,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: because I know people talked about the weather and all that,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: but I think it's correlated well, and there is some
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: difference here of how they built it. So let's let's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: give him the goods on that. And if there's then
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you don't like, let us know as well.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I like this lineup quite a bit. I like the correlation,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: and I think that you should be very, very excited
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: to run this stack back next week when they play MiNet.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Let's cross our fingers that may stacks are not the
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: chalk of the town next week. Hopefully people don't realize
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: yet just how bad that Miami defense is. I have
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: a feeling New England sacks are.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Going off next week.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about that more and shout out to Jerald. Yeah,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: if you want to post that question in the Mastermind discord,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you can, but you might want to stick around to
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: hear a little bit more as well. And I think this.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: I know Newan's quite well. You know, I've worked with him.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: He's in Mastermind. He's a ship at Nation member, has
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: been there since day, helped us with some of our
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: optimizer stuff in the past, all these different things. But
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: amazing guy just in building the line though, he's learned
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: quite a bit over time. And again, how does it
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: end up getting there? You don't know till the end.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: But the build is sound. It's may Diggs Henry unlocked
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the full ceiling. When not using Innjoku, why not play Tilman.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: It's another version of what we just talked about. He
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: runs it back with Myers, a certified receiver on a team.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: I know there's contract disputes and whatnot in thought present,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: but instead of going to tet or Abuka or something
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like that in that spot, he's double whammying that because
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: I think it was fifty one hundred for Myers and Tilman.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: You can frame it up however you want, but Agbuka
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: would have been a fine play in this lineup. It's
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: already more than unique enough. I'm just saying because he's
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: not going there. He leveraged that as well with Bucky
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: went those two running backs against each other. So all
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: that to say, the build is sound. If you're not
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: playing Detroit. Guys, we've talked about this a ton. They
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: know he knows this. There's nothing wrong with playing Green Bay,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: who looked good at home and improved Micah Parsons. So
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: all that to say, it's like, this is a fine build,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: a fine score by the way, one hundred and forty eight.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: It had a great shot on yesterday's slate. So I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: think you did a wonderful job putting this one together.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And we don't blow smoke on this show. Anybody who
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: knows that, and Alex will learn he doesn't know already.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: He knows me quite well. But I definitely don't blow
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: smoke on anything. I'll tell you straight up if I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: don't like it, And why doesn't mean I'm right. I
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: just like to put my spin on it, and thoughts,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I think this lineup's fine, and I think it was
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: built accordingly. And again, other people will worry, but oh
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the weather. You know, he's an idiot for playing that game.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And they said this, that and the other, you know,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: to each their own. But when you're putting your lineup,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: he could have been one of his one hundred and
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: fifty for all we know, like just noting it. So
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: there's a couple Baker lineups here. But I just saw
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Coach sav pop in and say, hey, I'm late. Did
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I miss the review shows? Again? You can always watch
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: this on playback, but love to see that you're here.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: We've got your lineup up on the screen that you
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to submit, it, says thoughts. And by the way, guys,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I love when you do this because it really helps
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: us get behind your mind. Right, Go go into the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: mind and do that in mastermind is like it's called
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: behind the mind. We want to get to know Alex today.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: It's way better than just me reviewing a seventh place
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: lineup of a guy I know and saying this is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: probably what he was thinking. I wouldn't have thought half
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: that stuff. It's just like I said, it's phenomenal to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: get the actual process of what you were thinking of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: before that. And shout out to Jordan. He said, always
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: appreciate the breakdowns. You guys are great. So coach sav
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: let's do your lineup. Gave us the thoughts, said Baker
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: to Igmuka CMC Late News and Late Slate low owned
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Connor is belcow. But I think I messed up putting
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: him versus in versus the d Yes. I mean on
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a mainsleet, you don't again, can you get away with it? Yes?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Do you need it on a main slate with this
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: many games?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: But just to note it. Nico late Slate stud Deebo
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: was price strange, cheap tight end, Brown Lates Slate stud
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Saints cheap leverage, Pivot so thoughts on this. I mean,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to bring it up right out
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: of the gates. I know everybody has their own opinions
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: on it. If I was putting anything against my defense,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: it would probably be like a tight end or a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: wide receiver that can just rap up PPR. Again, they
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: both can still get there, but on a mainslid it's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: not usually necessary or not something you're going to get
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: a ton of. But I'll let you take it away.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely wouldn't have that running back defense pairing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: I think one thing I want to touch on. I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: don't know if you're saying this coup so, but it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: sounds a little bit like you're saying you had Nico
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm on Russaint Brown because you like having someone
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: into late window to help your your your team climb
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: your leaderboard. I think it's really important to recognize the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: fact that it does not matter what time your points
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: are scored.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Your points get ended up all the same.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: The way it does matter is if you're leaving yourself
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: late swop flexibility so that you know, maybe maybe if
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you like had this, you know you already had McAffrey.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: But let's say McAffrey wasn't in the lineup. So you
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: get to the to the late slate and you're in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: a really good position. So you can say, Okay, I'm
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: in a great position. I'm just gonna use McAffrey, who
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I think is the best projected play remaining. And then
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: if you're not, you can say, all right, I'm going
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: to swap to Jamior Games. I'm on Act Brown or
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins because now I have the information that I
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: need to be more contrarian and maybe I need the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: you know, the forty point upside that Nico Collins can't
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: give me with two long touchdowns. So if you're saying
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: that if you wanted these guys late just you had
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: the flexibility, great. If you're saying that you wanted them
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: just because you wanted like a late afternoon hammer to
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: help you climb the leaderboard, that's irrelevant.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you're just shrinking your
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: playerpool for no reason.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Agreed, And that's a great point to bring up. So
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I think there's definitely some stuff you could throw in there.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: And I think also, you know, you had opportunity to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: swap different things, but you already had really good options there.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: So that's fine as well, but I think just in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: noting that, I would have looked at it a little
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: bit differently. But other than that, nothing too crazy. There
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: was one more that I wanted to bring up, and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: it was Heart said five dollars single, Madrey kate Hart said,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: thought process in the lineup Revius channel of the Mastermind.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Just I'm not going to bring that up right now,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: but I know you did post it there, so just
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: to note, just to see his lineup, give me your
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this one analysis. It's bake Igbuca, Shepherd with
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Viijon and London so full over over stack, Chase Brown
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: in Djoku secondary stack, McCaffrey and Giants going against Washington.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's important to note that's when he could
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: fit there and Cleveland wouldn't have made sense to the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: previous lineup up against Chase Brown, et cetera. So your
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this lineup, just how you're seeing it play out.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: It obviously played for an overstack of that Tampa Bay
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Atlanta game.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so first of all, let me say I liked
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: the Giants Stevens, so I thought I thought that was
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: a sharp take. That's that's gonna be a really really
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: good pass run. Where I will start here is the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Baker stack without Evans. I think it's always worth thinking about. Okay,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: when Baker access is his ceiling, how's he doing that? Okay,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: always throwing touchdowns? Who does Baker usually throw touchdowns to?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Mike?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Gets right?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: So when you have a Baker four touchdown game, a
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: thirty to thirty five point draftings point performance, the likelihood
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: that Evans also is smashing is so high, and he
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't high enough owned to be scared off of him
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: or to feel like you needed to break away from
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: him that I think Baker needed to be with Evans.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: If you wanted to get contram with Shepherd, I think
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: it would have been Baker, Evans, Shepherd and then leaving
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: out the Abuka chalk. But I also would have been
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: very happy with Baker, Evans and Abuka. I like the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: London bring back in that case as long as Evans
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: was there. But like now you're saying, Okay, you needed
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: London to outperform Evans while Baker was also outperforming Penix.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Now you're getting into some really weird correlations that I
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: don't love.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: But the overall structure is really good.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Last thing I'll say is I do think the Djoku
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: and Chase Brown mini correlation might be one of those
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: where there isn't any correlation there, And so now you
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: also have a higher owned combination of players than what
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: they deserve to be, just because so many people like clicking.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Guys for the same game.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say like, well, there is some
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: lower owned pieces in this, and it kind of like
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can make an argument it fits some
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: of the molds we saw earlier because there's a five
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: percent or a point two to five percenter, a nine
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to twelve, like it's not that far off of the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: other ones. But the again, when that's why I said,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: it's important, like you said, even if you don't get
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: to see it till after the tournament ends. Just thinking
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: about clearly people are playing London and Igbuca together right,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Clearly people are playing Chase Brown and in Djoku thinking
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: that Brown's gonna score on the ground and then in joke,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: who's gonna come back? Clearly, in the lineups that fit
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the cheaper guys like Brown, Eggbuka, even London, like sixty
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: five hundred, not too much, you can get to McCaffrey,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: so you're really putting a lot more of that. It's
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: a fin dollar single entry, so at least you had
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: an overstack. You had lower own leverage options. But to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: your point, one of the biggest ones that stood out
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: for me is like the this is where I think
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: another position that people will make a mistake. It doesn't
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: it doesn't mean its necessary a mistake, but it could
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: be a leak in your game, because of course anything
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: could happen. What if Shepherd did get two touchdowns yesterday
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: and makes this lineup pop off and then he's like, oh,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that's the case. But I will note a lot of
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: people see like Bijon and Shepherd and go look at
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: that projection, and if you flip it to Mike Evans,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: even if you move McCaffrey up and land on somebody else,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it would fit Bill or somebody
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: like that in there that we talked about earlier, like
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: where it's like still fine and might actually even project better.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: It's not saying that's what you need it. It's not
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: about the result, just noting it. But it's like my
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: point is, even if Shepherd and Bijon projected one to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: two points better then your Evans X version of that,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: like wherever you land, which one makes more sense for
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: your lineup? Because if Baker's actually gonna ceiling out, that's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: where I think, you know, and people get caught up
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: in this. In NBA, projections are even more important, and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: they'll say an NFL and other sports are not as important. Sure,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: but I'm still gonna trust the projections. But I'm saying, like,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: if it's a point or two off, or that's where
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: it's like, if it's ten points off, I'm not gonna
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: care as much. I want to tell the story that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: makes the most sense. You say, oh, but Robinson speeds
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: it up. But yeah, then you also told the story
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: of Robinson and London hitting that ceiling with Baker via Sterling,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Shepherd Buchan both needed to get there. So I think
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: this is to your point earlier you made a really
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: good point of like an example of where people have
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: a thought process around how to play, and like, oh,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: you got to just got a stack, do a secondary
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and then I'm good and in week one everything looks good.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: But that would be my point where it's like, you know,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you were counting on Shepherd to unlock Baker ceiling, even
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: if your other guys fully unlocked their ceiling. I'll say
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Beijon had a really good game and he was an
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: awesome plan at that ownership. But I think that's where
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: you could have made London Mike Evans and then decided
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: on a different Shepherd. You could have made Shepherd Mike
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Evans and then moved up McCaffrey, moved Robinson to somebody else,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: like or if you went with a third running back,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: moved a third running back up there, left McCaffrey. My
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: point being, it's not results oriented to talk about it
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: in this way. Alex brought it up. I'm kind of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: closing the deal on it, so you guys know. But
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that's just the breakdown on our thoughts on that. Alex,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: was there any final thoughts from you on these lineups
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: that we've looked at or anything else you want to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: bring up there.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's clear that all these lineups, like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: they're not just playing fantasy football, They're they're playing the
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: game of DFS. So that that's really good to see
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: that there's there's thought beyond just I'm playing this guy
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: because I think he's going to do well and As
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: long as you're doing that, you're you're on the right track.
• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:19
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• 1:09:22
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• 1:09:25
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• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: If you want my projections and ownership, go to ftnfantasy
• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:35
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• 1:09:39
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• 1:09:44
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• 1:09:48
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, we're gonna be featuring it right here
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  Speaker 1: on the ship at Nation YouTube station. This is exciting
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  Speaker 1: and we talked all throughout the show. I hinted at
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  Speaker 1: at a few times. You guys know, I like to tease.
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  Speaker 1: They call me to te's and tambo sometimes. This is
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  Speaker 1: the thing. We talked through it from a review perspective today,
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  Speaker 1: what if we could talk about it before the slate starts.
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  Speaker 1: So I had a lot of people reach out this
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: season asked me to do shows. I actually denied all
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: of them, including Alex. I was like, really not feeling it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think I want to do
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  Speaker 1: a show, but Alex talked me and do it enough.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago we started talking about a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more heavily to get into the streets, but
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  Speaker 1: we didn't want to rush anything for week one. What
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  Speaker 1: we want to focus on is the stuff that we
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  Speaker 1: talked about on today's show. It's just more that fits
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  Speaker 1: the model of what both of us do, deep slate
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  Speaker 1: strategy thoughts going in to the slate, and so we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna debut the show, believe next Friday, the nineteenth, at
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  Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern. But it's actually just some prior engagements
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  Speaker 1: and we want to plan for it to make sure
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  Speaker 1: we're ready. But we are going to be on Saturdays
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  Speaker 1: at ten am Eastern and it's gonna be called Leverage Lane.
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  Speaker 1: Come up with that name a little while ago. I
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: thought it'd be a good title for this one. Everyone
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: talks about narrative Street, we talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: Satellite Street, using those to get into these tournaments. But
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  Speaker 1: we are going to have a GPP Leverage show free
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  Speaker 1: on the Ship at Nation YouTube station, Alex myself every
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  Speaker 1: week starting Friday the nineteenth at seven Eastern to debut it.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll be back every Saturday for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the season at ten am Eastern to break it down
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  Speaker 1: for you guys before the slate starts. Alex, I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: for this one. Man. This is you know something that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure I was going to do many shows
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  Speaker 1: this season, but you started talking about that and then
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  Speaker 1: I said, man, that would be a good idea, but
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  Speaker 1: I'd want it to look like this. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: worked out the framework a little bit of how we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to look. Didn't want to rush it for week one,
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  Speaker 1: but that's why I thought it was cool. You end
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  Speaker 1: up going out and crushing Week one, getting fifty K score,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: almost winning a MILLI out of the gates. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that's going to be a ton of fun. I
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  Speaker 1: think our chemistry saw it, and I think we think
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: very similarly but in different ways. That will help people
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  Speaker 1: get better at the game of DFS. Your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: everything as we move forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's going to be a blast, and
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  Speaker 3: I think the thing that we were going to slam
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  Speaker 3: home a lot is like there are so many shows
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  Speaker 3: for the industry, and so many of these shows are
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  Speaker 3: just I.
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  Speaker 2: Like this guy, I like that guy.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're watching a bunch of different shows, you're
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: getting like so many recommendations you have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: How to possibly sift through them all to who you
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: actually play.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: And what we're gonna do is we're gonna say it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily matter who you play, like we'll give you
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  Speaker 3: an indication of who we like, but it's how you
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: play them. It's the strategy behind them is how to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: leverage other builds. And I alluded to it earlier, but
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  Speaker 3: like specifically, it's how to leverage all of the people
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: who are overly reliant on these contest sims and are
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: just pressing buttons and letting things happen for them in
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  Speaker 3: a weird way, like, contest sims have made the field
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: so much more predictable, They've made the field so much
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  Speaker 3: more like just open to being leveraged in a really
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  Speaker 3: really strong way. And we're gonna hammer that and I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: think we're gonna have a really good season.
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  Speaker 2: As a result.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have contest sims. We've got contest SIMS
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  Speaker 1: with Saber SIM. It's definitely we're for those. We're saying
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  Speaker 1: that you want to how people need to know, and
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  Speaker 1: it's clear from our discord. I'm sure it's the same
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: in yours. How do I use them? I think so
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: many people not saying you guys that are watching right
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: now because you're working on your game to get better,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: and we appreciate that, and that's what this is all
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: about out But I think a lot of people see
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: a logo up top with SIM in the name, or
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: run the SIM, Saber SIM, whatever it might be, and
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: just assume all, I gotta go sign up for that
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: once I use it and click buttons, all be good.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Your inputs are your outputs. You are still able to
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: adjust your inputs before you go in. Alex was able
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to see in his stuff and his mind that, Okay,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot more Jonathan Taylor than I would suspect.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: That means others are as well. That means I better
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  Speaker 1: boost his ownership projection so that my contest SIMS and
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: my brain and all that can be put together to say,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: how can I use that to my advantage. We're still
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: using these tools to our advantage. That way, but it's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: your inputs are your outputs. You're investing money, You're putting
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: your real hard earned money behind this stuff to try
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: and win more. You have to be thinking about these
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: things going in and that's what we're so passionate about,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: and that's why we want it. There will be a
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: huge focus on single entry three max, twenty max, all
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: the stuff the other shows don't necessarily focus on as much,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the situational stuff like one lineup versus single entry lineup.
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  Speaker 1: Alex just talked about that when everybody else has this many,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: that doesn't matter that he was in a forty four
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  Speaker 1: to forty four. He won the satellite ticket, but if
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  Speaker 1: you were in a three three thirty three, it'd be
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  Speaker 1: a similar thought process. It's not single entry, it's one
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  Speaker 1: lineup versus everybody having one fifty in that case. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to break it down. We're gonna talk
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: about satellite street on that show as well, like how
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: you can apply this in satellites, whether it's a large
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: field or a smaller field, the differences, and then we're
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: gonna spend a lot of time just talking about maybe
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: you know, three to four, a carousel of ideas of like, Okay,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: everybody's on Jonathan Taylor, what's that look like? Steelers d
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: is getting pushed up, what does that look like? And
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: again big Ed is back again shout out the Big
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Ed sticking with us the whole way says that is
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: my issue knowing how to utilize sabersims. It's any optimizer
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: or SIMS, but I think that's kind of the key.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Learn how to still be competitive and not just accept
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: exactly what it gives you. That's my goal with it.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: It's look, I will say that the truth of what
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I know and what you know as well. It's it's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: made it more predictable, but it's it's if somebody was
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: sitting at home handbuilding all their lineups, it's obviously going
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: to be much worse ninety nine percent of the time
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: than signing up for a site with tools like this
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: that have good projections, good ownership, and then they can
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: simulate out positive ROI lineups. But just because you have
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: positive ROI lineups doesn't mean you're adding any spin to them.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I've seen people who run a full set of very
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: positive ROI lineups and it was better for them. Don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, But what I'm saying is then they
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: come back and say, holy smokes, I didn't know I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: had no of this guy. Well, because you didn't even
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: review what you did. You just trusted the button and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: put it in. You did put yourself in a better
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: position than you would have sitting on the toilet handbuilding
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  Speaker 1: ten lineups a day all week and doing it that way,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but you still could have put more thought process into
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: a review before and after. That's what this is going
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: to be about. Alex and I are going to handle
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the before as usual. I'll be back every Monday with
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: this show with the after, with different guests throughout the season.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can get some more guests on. I'll have
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: my guy Naids on while some people from the community
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: over at Mastermind and ship at Nation. But it's gonna
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Alex. I'm excited for this,
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  Speaker 1: so thank you so much for hopping on to do
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  Speaker 1: this with us today. Thank you for everybody that tuned in.
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  Speaker 1: We will be back together you and I Friday, September
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  Speaker 1: nineteenth at seven pm Eastern for the week three Leverage
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  Speaker 1: Lane kickoff, the debut version of that show and then
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: also today two pm Eastern Hoop title and myself gonna
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: be breaking down a showdown for this evening. Alex. Appreciate
• 1:17:21
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• 1:17:23
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