Latest / Nickel City Crew Podcast / S6 E15: Grow Up!!!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: 15 degrees, you can see your breath.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Out here in the lake of fact. Breaking tables like
- 0:16Speaker 2: it's poetry. Where else would you have to be? Pinto, Ron, Elvis,
- 0:22Speaker 2: and the Lay Ponce Show.
- 0:25Speaker 3: The members that you need to know.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
- 0:42Speaker 1: Rob Crippen.
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- 0:55Speaker 1: We're so glad that you're joining us for some.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today. And
- 1:00Speaker 3: as always, these are my Bills thoughts said out loud.
- 1:05Speaker 2: It's a vibe so ridiculous.
- 1:16Speaker 3: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
- 1:26Speaker 3: tonight's episode for a couple different reasons, but listen, we
- 1:32Speaker 3: never thought the Bills were going to go 17-0. We
- 1:34Speaker 3: never predicted that. Even my co-host who is One of
- 1:38Speaker 3: the most optimistic Bills fans I know didn't say that
- 1:40Speaker 3: we were going to go 17-0.
- 1:42Speaker 1: So, listen, you chalk it up. You live to fight
- 1:45Speaker 1: another day.
- 1:46Speaker 3: And we'll see what happens on Monday night as the
- 1:48Speaker 3: Bills travel out to L.A. to take on the Rams. Listen,
- 1:51Speaker 3: joining me tonight, as always, my co-host, Adam Dump Truck Rupczyk.
- 1:56Speaker 3: Check him out on Instagram and Twitter at AdamRupczyk, R-U-P-C-Z-Y-K.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Holla at the crew, DT. I mean, we got to
- 2:04Speaker 3: go through it. There's some stuff we got to go
- 2:05Speaker 3: through from Sunday. So let's just get.
- 2:08Speaker 1: To it, man.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Nickel City, what's up, Rob? Here we are, Thursday night.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Good to be here. Hey, it is what it is, man.
- 2:15Speaker 2: 17-0 was never in the cards. It might have been.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Maybe there's a few bets that said it was, but
- 2:20Speaker 2: it was never truly in the cards. And it is
- 2:23Speaker 2: what it is, but it's not just forget about it,
- 2:26Speaker 2: move on, and we'll get into that tonight. But, you know,
- 2:28Speaker 2: I think it's, A lot of things need to be
- 2:30Speaker 2: held accountable, and it's the reality of the NFL. And
- 2:35Speaker 2: we saw that, and it's not going to be that
- 2:38Speaker 2: opening night with the fireworks going off and you're opening
- 2:41Speaker 2: the stadium and you beat the shit out of the Lions.
- 2:44Speaker 2: This league's too good to see that week in and
- 2:45Speaker 2: week out, and that's such a loser's mentality to say
- 2:48Speaker 2: that sentence and the cliches I all just did in
- 2:50Speaker 2: that intro, but it is. And it's a team, divisional
- 2:55Speaker 2: team that has our number. And let's unpack it, Rob,
- 2:58Speaker 2: because we have to be fair on both sides. And
- 3:01Speaker 2: I think accountability is something we'll talk about this evening.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have named the episode that way. I
- 3:09Speaker 3: named it the way that I did for a specific reason.
- 3:11Speaker 3: But listen, Bills lose 29-26 at home to the Patriots.
- 3:15Speaker 3: It's interesting, DT, because the game was weird. in respects
- 3:21Speaker 3: of the fact that it was there for the Bills
- 3:23Speaker 3: to take. And some mistakes and some key mistakes by
- 3:26Speaker 3: the Bills really led to that loss, and we'll kind
- 3:29Speaker 3: of break it down. But for me, I was interested
- 3:34Speaker 3: in getting your takes on some of the stuff, and
- 3:35Speaker 3: I know you were traveling back, but 12 carries for
- 3:39Speaker 3: James Cook in a game where he was effective later
- 3:43Speaker 3: in the game. I mean, he's averaging six yards a pop.
- 3:46Speaker 3: I was disappointed in Joe Brady. for a few things
- 3:49Speaker 3: on Sunday. And that was one of them was getting
- 3:51Speaker 3: away from the running game. I thought that, you know,
- 3:54Speaker 3: 12 carries for him is just not enough. I don't
- 3:56Speaker 3: care what kind of game you're in, what kind of
- 3:58Speaker 3: game script, you've got to get this guy the ball
- 4:00Speaker 3: to help out. And it also, I feel like it
- 4:03Speaker 3: helps your quarterback to calm him down a little bit sometimes.
- 4:06Speaker 3: And we kind of saw some of the, you know, unfortunately,
- 4:08Speaker 3: some of that sugar high Josh bullshit from the past
- 4:11Speaker 3: kind of rear its ugly head at certain points in
- 4:14Speaker 3: time in that game, including that little backflip when he
- 4:16Speaker 3: was trying to avoid a safety and It could have
- 4:18Speaker 3: been way worse. DT, I think that sometimes Josh needs
- 4:23Speaker 3: to calm down a little bit, and I need my
- 4:25Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, who is now my head coach, to kind
- 4:29Speaker 3: of have his finger on the pulse of what's going
- 4:31Speaker 3: on and kind of calm him down. I think that
- 4:32Speaker 3: the run game would have helped out with that, but
- 4:34Speaker 3: they went away from it early.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Well, do you think– do you think, I mean, these
- 4:38Speaker 2: 12 carries was strictly in– the fact of we're not
- 4:44Speaker 2: running the ball today or in the fact of I'm
- 4:47Speaker 2: panicking mid-game and I'm just going to put it in
- 4:50Speaker 2: Josh's hands and we're not going to run the ball?
- 4:52Speaker 2: Which side do you think that was? Do you think
- 4:53Speaker 2: coming in he's not running it or do you think
- 4:55Speaker 2: it's panic mid-game?
- 4:57Speaker 3: I think that sometimes I'm starting to think that he's
- 4:59Speaker 3: trying to prove a point in respects to being different.
- 5:02Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right? We're not running like we
- 5:05Speaker 2: did last year, so that's the game plan coming in
- 5:07Speaker 2: this year. We show him we can beat. people with
- 5:09Speaker 2: Josh's arms and our new kind of receiver look and
- 5:12Speaker 2: what we're doing. Still James Cook's getting us production, but
- 5:15Speaker 2: we're not running like we were last year. So is
- 5:17Speaker 2: that it coming in? Or I think it's the latter.
- 5:20Speaker 2: I think it's mid-game, him kind of being a first-year
- 5:24Speaker 2: coach and things are reeling. We had five turnovers the
- 5:30Speaker 2: week before in your home stadium. And things aren't looking
- 5:33Speaker 2: pretty again in front of your home crowd. And you
- 5:36Speaker 2: could have your first loss and start to face the
- 5:38Speaker 2: music for real for the first time. And that's all
- 5:41Speaker 2: hitting you in the middle of this game when you're
- 5:42Speaker 2: kind of getting punched in the mouth and thrown around
- 5:44Speaker 2: a little bit. You panic and go into your default,
- 5:47Speaker 2: which is Superman. And so I see, I think it's that.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I don't think it's, you know, he went in thinking
- 5:55Speaker 2: we should cut down James Cook today. I think, you know,
- 5:58Speaker 2: 12 carries, he still has 75 yards, right? um hey
- 6:01Speaker 2: puts the ball in the grass again though rob we
- 6:03Speaker 2: talked about it last week and i was not you
- 6:05Speaker 2: know worried about it but then another week comes around
- 6:07Speaker 2: and that's what they say about uh insanity right you
- 6:10Speaker 2: think it's not a problem until he puts the ball
- 6:12Speaker 2: on the on the turf every week like can't be
- 6:15Speaker 2: happening so is it something to do with that i
- 6:18Speaker 2: don't think so is it in the game plan no
- 6:21Speaker 2: i think it was mid panic from a first year
- 6:24Speaker 2: coach and we're gonna see these types of.
- 6:26Speaker 3: Things yeah i I maybe I maybe I I think
- 6:31Speaker 3: that there's sometimes that he is trying to he's trying
- 6:33Speaker 3: real hard.
- 6:34Speaker 1: You could see it with this kickoff bullshit that he
- 6:36Speaker 1: is trying to.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Almost it to me. This is me that he's trying
- 6:39Speaker 3: to prove a point. He's trying to we're different. What
- 6:42Speaker 3: does he always say now that they've got to play us? Well,
- 6:45Speaker 3: you know, listen, a lot of that stuff to me, DT,
- 6:48Speaker 3: it rings hollow to a certain degree because what did
- 6:51Speaker 3: I always used to say?
- 6:52Speaker 1: With McDermott, like every coach has their own slogans.
- 6:55Speaker 3: Every coach has their own stuff that they put on
- 6:57Speaker 3: the wall and stuff like that. So for me, it
- 7:00Speaker 3: kind of, you know, it, I don't know, man, we
- 7:03Speaker 3: got to play, got to play us. Well, we have
- 7:05Speaker 3: to play them too. So stop kicking the ball off.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Stop taking the ball after every time that you win
- 7:10Speaker 3: the toss and instead of deferring and trying to get
- 7:13Speaker 3: that double dip. I think that sometimes it's a situation
- 7:15Speaker 3: where he seems to be wanting to make.
- 7:18Speaker 1: To make some type of statement.
- 7:19Speaker 3: That he's different, that he's different than McDermott, that, you know, again,
- 7:22Speaker 3: that he's attack mode and he's not going to be
- 7:25Speaker 3: in a situation where he's letting anybody dictate anything to him.
- 7:28Speaker 1: And I think that that's running some of his decisions.
- 7:30Speaker 3: And I need him to just kind of calm down
- 7:32Speaker 3: sometimes and think about the totality of it.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And I think that that's my major issue with it.
- 7:37Speaker 2: That statement got him three big, significant wins. That statement,
- 7:42Speaker 2: you know, that same mentality, you know, had a gutsy
- 7:46Speaker 2: win on the road for a team with the House
- 7:48Speaker 2: of Whores. You come back and open the stadium and
- 7:51Speaker 2: beat the breaks off a really good Detroit Lions team.
- 7:53Speaker 2: You overcome five turnovers and still cover the spread against
- 7:56Speaker 2: the Chargers with that mentality. So he's like, damn, all right,
- 8:01Speaker 2: this coaching shit is pretty easy. And then runs into
- 8:08Speaker 2: some divisional adversity, and it's a learning experience. But I
- 8:11Speaker 2: think it was visible mid-game of how you know, the
- 8:15Speaker 2: pressure started to get to him and he's, he's got
- 8:18Speaker 2: to learn from this, but I think it was, it
- 8:20Speaker 2: was all sorts of that. And I'm not blaming him
- 8:22Speaker 2: for coming in with that mentality, but I understand from
- 8:25Speaker 2: you too, Rob, like, all right, like kick the ball
- 8:27Speaker 2: and play defense. I agree. But like, you know, but
- 8:31Speaker 2: that type of like, Ooh, let's go. This is us now.
- 8:34Speaker 2: That's got us three and oh, that's got us three
- 8:35Speaker 2: and oh.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Okay.
- 8:36Speaker 2: There was some swagger behind it. There was some swagger
- 8:39Speaker 2: behind it.
- 8:39Speaker 1: All right. Okay.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Listen, I'm not expecting us to agree tonight on everything. Now,
- 8:43Speaker 3: before we talk about the offense, we would be remiss
- 8:46Speaker 3: if we didn't talk about the defense DT. The defense
- 8:48Speaker 3: really shit the bed in this game, and it was
- 8:52Speaker 3: plenty of blame to go around. Now, the defensive line
- 8:54Speaker 3: seemed to have their act together. I know that they
- 8:57Speaker 3: were not necessarily closing the job and finishing the job,
- 9:00Speaker 3: but they were getting pressure on Drake May. He was
- 9:03Speaker 3: escaping the pocket DT, and then the corners were just horrible.
- 9:07Speaker 3: I mean, Mad Max had probably one of the worst
- 9:10Speaker 3: cornerback games that you could see from a Buffalo Bill
- 9:12Speaker 3: in a long time. effort was being questioned I know
- 9:15Speaker 3: that he didn't want to speak to the media afterwards
- 9:17Speaker 3: and he apologized the next day for walking out of
- 9:19Speaker 3: the locker room and not addressing the media I thought
- 9:22Speaker 3: that overall the linebackers to the secondary were just subpar
- 9:26Speaker 3: DT it was a bad day Drake May was able
- 9:29Speaker 3: to leak out I'm getting some runs I think he
- 9:31Speaker 3: had like 54 yards it says on eight carries it
- 9:34Speaker 3: was it was bad DT all around for the defense
- 9:37Speaker 3: so before we talk about offense the defense had Had
- 9:39Speaker 3: a rough day. And like I said, outside of the
- 9:42Speaker 3: defensive line, because the defensive line was getting there.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Unacceptable day for a team that, you know, scored three
- 9:47Speaker 2: points in Jacksonville. And Drake May looks pretty much unplayable
- 9:51Speaker 2: the week before in Jacksonville. And they come in and
- 9:54Speaker 2: he can't be touched. And it's it's not like they
- 9:56Speaker 2: were QB runs and he's breaking the pocket and darting
- 9:59Speaker 2: out for a 14-yard gain it's like long drawing out
- 10:02Speaker 2: you know like is are we gonna get him nope
- 10:05Speaker 2: nope oh he's just getting out okay and then he
- 10:07Speaker 2: runs and there's still nobody near him for 15 yards
- 10:09Speaker 2: like it's a very frustrating way to watch a game
- 10:11Speaker 2: and you lose confidence in a defense quick when it's
- 10:15Speaker 2: it's out of the gate That shit's third and long,
- 10:18Speaker 2: breaking out of the pocket, picking up those yards, third
- 10:20Speaker 2: and long, small screen passes underneath, and they're coming to
- 10:23Speaker 2: the sticks. It makes you lose confidence quick, and the
- 10:26Speaker 2: defense deserves a lot of daggers from this loss in
- 10:29Speaker 2: the fact of they were unplayable in the back end
- 10:32Speaker 2: of this defense. The defensive line, okay, did all right,
- 10:35Speaker 2: but didn't have the sacks down the stretch. And, you know,
- 10:39Speaker 2: the run game, okay, they've been doing a good job
- 10:41Speaker 2: of stopping the run. Nobody's really beaten us that other
- 10:43Speaker 2: than the QB scrambles. linebackers out of position. We're supposed
- 10:46Speaker 2: to have fast linebackers. Dorian Williams, fast. Trell Bernard, fast.
- 10:49Speaker 2: They're smaller, so they're faster. We're out of it. We're
- 10:52Speaker 2: not even close to getting Drake May. And, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 2: going into this week, we'll get into a non-mobile quarterback.
- 10:57Speaker 2: But Mingia, you know, Matt Stafford could have, you know,
- 11:00Speaker 2: get the upward 17 yards on us, you know, bet
- 11:03Speaker 2: that rushing prop. So we've got to start containing these
- 11:06Speaker 2: guys because there's a lot of quarterbacks we're going to
- 11:08Speaker 2: have to play that you do now. I mean, Lamar's
- 11:10Speaker 2: coming up in a few weeks and so on and
- 11:13Speaker 2: so forth. So it's it's time to lock in with
- 11:16Speaker 2: that defensive line let's keep that up dm walker let's
- 11:19Speaker 2: keep that up group you know another another decent game
- 11:22Speaker 2: but we're gonna need sacks to be in the ball
- 11:24Speaker 2: game monday so it needs to get back to their
- 11:26Speaker 2: sack sack attack that we've seen in the first three
- 11:29Speaker 2: weeks linebackers i just i don't know they're horrible there's
- 11:32Speaker 2: no consistency at all i mean there's no good like
- 11:36Speaker 2: they're out of it they're not hitting they can't cover
- 11:39Speaker 2: that needs to be a trade line i think first
- 11:41Speaker 2: thing we look at people are bitching about corner and
- 11:43Speaker 2: i agree but like you can kind of put the
- 11:46Speaker 2: rubber bands together in the defensive backfield, but I think
- 11:49Speaker 2: we need a linebacker. I think we need a linebacker.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I agree. I've been saying it all offseason.
- 11:53Speaker 2: I'm deadass. They're not even coming up and making plays
- 11:56Speaker 2: in the run. I mean, Terrell Bernard was on and off,
- 11:59Speaker 2: on and off, and now can't stay on the field. It's,
- 12:02Speaker 2: you know, Buffalo Joe? Like what? Like what? You know,
- 12:05Speaker 2: he's on an MBT bank commercials all day. I see him,
- 12:07Speaker 2: but I don't see him, you know, in the game,
- 12:11Speaker 2: and he's definitely not going to make plays if he
- 12:12Speaker 2: has to go in. So, I think we need a
- 12:14Speaker 2: linebacker in defensive backfield. We're learning, right? Jim Leonard's given
- 12:19Speaker 2: us different things, things to look at, whatever, but we
- 12:25Speaker 2: can't have a defense that is like the Bengals where
- 12:28Speaker 2: you miss the playoffs because your defense is so bad.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Like that can't happen. And we had the defensive preview
- 12:33Speaker 2: and I know I was in and out of cutting
- 12:34Speaker 2: in and out of that, but our guests were very great.
- 12:37Speaker 2: And our guests brought up, Hey, the defense can't get
- 12:39Speaker 2: worse statistically where, you know, it can't get worse. So
- 12:42Speaker 2: what are we worried about? Well, That was fucking worse
- 12:44Speaker 2: Sunday in the defensive backfield. We never got caught up
- 12:48Speaker 2: like that in the defensive backfield. So that gives me
- 12:50Speaker 2: some concern there. But, hey, I'm believing in Jim Leonard.
- 12:54Speaker 2: It's going to take time. The defensive line is something
- 12:57Speaker 2: we haven't seen over the past couple years. We need
- 12:59Speaker 2: them to keep improving and being dominant and hope it
- 13:01Speaker 2: can deodorize some of the things until we figure it
- 13:03Speaker 2: out on the back end. But need Christian Benford back.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Need CJ, GJ to, you know, okay, like talk. But now, like,
- 13:10Speaker 2: you've got to start putting it on it. And Cole Bishop,
- 13:13Speaker 2: the breakout year you were supposed to have. So it's
- 13:16Speaker 2: time to, you know, we're a month in. You know,
- 13:19Speaker 2: it's not week one no more. Like, it's a month in.
- 13:22Speaker 2: You got to start putting hats on people.
- 13:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's the one thing for me
- 13:28Speaker 3: is that, you know, I've been a strong proponent that,
- 13:31Speaker 3: you know, hey, listen, Jim Leonard told us it was
- 13:33Speaker 3: going to take time. He told us that, you know,
- 13:35Speaker 3: he didn't necessarily have all his horses and things like that.
- 13:37Speaker 3: The funny thing, DT, is that they're playing plenty of zone.
- 13:40Speaker 3: So it's not even a situation where, Well, Benford's not
- 13:43Speaker 3: really a man corner and you know what I mean?
- 13:45Speaker 3: And Harrison played zone at Kentucky and stuff like that.
- 13:48Speaker 3: So it's not even that can't even be an excuse
- 13:50Speaker 3: right now because of the fact that they're playing plenty
- 13:52Speaker 3: of zone. They are just not in the right spots.
- 13:54Speaker 3: They are taking forever to get to the football. And
- 13:58Speaker 3: like I said, Mad Max, I mean, some of that
- 13:59Speaker 3: should eat the fourth, the third down play to end
- 14:02Speaker 3: the game. I'm that's just no on Hunter Henry. That's
- 14:05Speaker 3: just no, that's, that's effort. And you can't teach enough.
- 14:07Speaker 3: You got to just either have it or you don't.
- 14:09Speaker 3: It's unacceptable. I know that he knows that. I know
- 14:11Speaker 3: that he's been told that and stuff like that, but
- 14:13Speaker 3: to see it on film, it was disheartening because this guy,
- 14:16Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You switch your number to
- 14:18Speaker 3: number one, that kind of put the target on your
- 14:21Speaker 3: back too, because you're kind of making a statement like
- 14:22Speaker 3: I'm that motherfucker.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Then be him then, then be him.
- 14:26Speaker 3: And that last effort on that third down, I thought
- 14:28Speaker 3: that that was really poor. because he didn't look like
- 14:30Speaker 3: he wanted to have anything to do with getting in
- 14:32Speaker 3: front of Hunter Henry. I know that he's got plenty
- 14:33Speaker 3: of pounds on him, and he's bigger than him, but
- 14:36Speaker 3: put your body in the way. Try to take out
- 14:38Speaker 3: his legs or something like that and chop him down
- 14:40Speaker 3: like a tree. It was nothing like that. He didn't
- 14:42Speaker 3: want any part of it on that sideline, and it
- 14:45Speaker 3: was just disheartening.
- 14:47Speaker 2: Screen, I mean, we play a lot of zone. We're
- 14:50Speaker 2: not even on the TV screen. These guys are coming in,
- 14:54Speaker 2: catching these balls in the middle of the field. In
- 14:55Speaker 2: the first half, they were attacking the middle pretty easily.
- 14:59Speaker 2: And then we're not even in the screen. We're supposed
- 15:02Speaker 2: to be fast and elusive and smaller but fast. We're
- 15:06Speaker 2: not even in position to be fast. Like, it takes forever,
- 15:10Speaker 2: like you said, to find the ball and get to
- 15:12Speaker 2: the ball, and that's what I think is concerning. Like,
- 15:15Speaker 2: these guys are in wide open spaces, and then all
- 15:17Speaker 2: of a sudden you start to see the Bills emerge,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and it's already 12 yards down the field.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was bad. Listen, now.
- 15:27Speaker 3: As we switch to the offensive side of the ball,
- 15:29Speaker 3: you know, I've had some battles this week on Twitter,
- 15:34Speaker 3: to say the very least.
- 15:36Speaker 1: And one of the things that.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Bothered me most is the fact that it seems like
- 15:42Speaker 3: there's a portion of Bill's mafia. And I guess from history,
- 15:45Speaker 3: I would assume that it's a similar portion of the
- 15:48Speaker 3: mafia that thought, you know, well, you could never fire
- 15:52Speaker 3: Sean McDermott because we'll go back to the drought and
- 15:54Speaker 3: stuff like that. And kind of that clutching Pearls. Well,
- 15:58Speaker 3: you point out some things about Josh on Bill's Twitter, DT,
- 16:01Speaker 3: and you get roasted. I was called not a real fan.
- 16:05Speaker 3: I was told that Josh Allen is the best thing
- 16:08Speaker 3: about the Bills. I was told that we would be
- 16:11Speaker 3: nothing without him. This and that. Water is wet. Like,
- 16:15Speaker 3: don't tell me stuff that I already know. Like, don't
- 16:17Speaker 3: tell me stuff that is already obvious. I understand that
- 16:20Speaker 3: Josh Allen is a great quarterback. I understand that he's
- 16:22Speaker 3: the best quarterback that we've had in quite some time.
- 16:24Speaker 3: What I don't want to hear is people making excuses
- 16:27Speaker 3: for him when he has, when he fucks up and
- 16:29Speaker 3: when he makes bad plays the, like I talked about
- 16:31Speaker 3: earlier that when he's trying to avoid the safety, he
- 16:33Speaker 3: throws that ball back. That's Houston. That's sugar high Josh
- 16:36Speaker 3: back from 2019. I don't want to see that guy anymore.
- 16:39Speaker 3: And I thought that he was kind of working that
- 16:40Speaker 3: out of his game and then the end of the game.
- 16:43Speaker 3: And this has been on me DT all week. And
- 16:46Speaker 3: I had to get this shit off my chest. Listen,
- 16:49Speaker 3: second and six with a minute and change left all
- 16:52Speaker 3: three timeouts and There's no way that you can make
- 16:55Speaker 3: that pass. I don't care what you saw. I don't
- 16:58Speaker 3: care what you thought you saw. I don't care that
- 17:00Speaker 3: the defender came in and spun you around. And then
- 17:02Speaker 3: when you got back to it, you still threw it.
- 17:04Speaker 3: You can't, there's got to be situational awareness.
- 17:08Speaker 1: It is year nine DT for our all world quarterback.
- 17:11Speaker 3: He's making $ 55 million a year. I'm sick of, of
- 17:15Speaker 3: Bill's mafia fans in a portion. It's not all, but
- 17:17Speaker 3: it is a large portion. Cause I was just arguing
- 17:20Speaker 3: with these motherfuckers all week on Twitter. It is time
- 17:23Speaker 3: for him to grow up. And that's why I named
- 17:25Speaker 3: the episode the way that I did. It's time for
- 17:27Speaker 3: him to grow up. And it's not out of line
- 17:29Speaker 3: to ask him to grow up. I was shocked that
- 17:33Speaker 3: he threw that ball. And then, you know, to hear
- 17:35Speaker 3: his explanation afterwards, he talked about how, you know, Palmer
- 17:37Speaker 3: was open.
- 17:38Speaker 1: And he was.
- 17:39Speaker 3: You look at the All-22 and you look at that replay.
- 17:41Speaker 3: He was for a second. Then he got spun around. Well,
- 17:43Speaker 3: when you get spun around, the timing is obviously off.
- 17:45Speaker 3: He doesn't even notice that the safety is coming over
- 17:48Speaker 3: to help out.
- 17:49Speaker 1: You've got Ty Johnson running across.
- 17:51Speaker 3: The linebackers 10 yards behind him or seven yards behind him.
- 17:55Speaker 3: He's got nothing but green grass on that side of
- 17:57Speaker 3: the field. There's absolutely no Patriots defender on that side
- 18:00Speaker 3: of the field on the right side of the field.
- 18:01Speaker 3: I mean, he might get 30, 40 yards. He may
- 18:03Speaker 3: not score, but you're going to bleed clock again. You've
- 18:06Speaker 3: got all three timeouts in your back pocket. It was
- 18:08Speaker 3: just an irresponsible throw. And I don't think that it's
- 18:12Speaker 3: I don't think it's against the rules to point out
- 18:14Speaker 3: that Josh Allen made a bad play. There are so
- 18:17Speaker 3: many members of the mafia that I don't know if
- 18:19Speaker 3: they're worried about him leaving. I saw somebody on Twitter
- 18:22Speaker 3: after the game changed his avatar to Josh Allen in
- 18:25Speaker 3: a Rebs jersey.
- 18:26Speaker 1: Like, I don't get it. I saw people talking about, oh, man,
- 18:29Speaker 1: he's going to leave us eventually. He's going to leave us.
- 18:32Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys think that he's listening
- 18:34Speaker 3: to this and that he's going to leave.
- 18:36Speaker 1: He's going to be mad.
- 18:37Speaker 3: He's a big boy. He understands what he did wrong.
- 18:40Speaker 3: I'm sure that they talked about it, and he knows
- 18:41Speaker 3: that he fucked up. We've got to get out of
- 18:43Speaker 3: this mentality where we cannot even criticize the quarterback because
- 18:46Speaker 3: We haven't had a quarterback like him before. That is
- 18:49Speaker 3: not a good enough excuse for me to not be
- 18:52Speaker 3: able to be critical of him when he fucks up.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I don't I don't care that he's the best quarterback
- 18:55Speaker 3: that we've had since Jim Kelly. I don't care that
- 18:58Speaker 3: he that he's all world. And and, you know, oh,
- 19:01Speaker 3: my gosh, we would be nowhere without him. We know
- 19:02Speaker 3: we would be nowhere without him. And it's still OK
- 19:04Speaker 3: to criticize him when he fucks up DT.
- 19:08Speaker 2: What a monster. What a monster, Rob. What a monster
- 19:11Speaker 2: you are.
- 19:12Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I mean, I don't get it, man.
- 19:15Speaker 1: I caught it all week long. I don't get it.
- 19:17Speaker 2: That's pansy shit. I'm with you on that. You can
- 19:22Speaker 2: be critical and deservingly critical. I mean, who isn't critical
- 19:26Speaker 2: of that? Josh Allen's got to better be critical of
- 19:28Speaker 2: himself in that, obviously.
- 19:30Speaker 1: I hope so.
- 19:38Speaker 2: This is me not saying that's acceptable because it's not,
- 19:42Speaker 2: but this is me breaking down of why we're here
- 19:45Speaker 2: you know, in the fourth quarter of like, there was some,
- 19:50Speaker 2: we need to, Maybe the grow-up is the thing because
- 19:54Speaker 2: we need somebody to keep settled. You said it earlier
- 19:57Speaker 2: in the show. We need somebody to settle it down
- 20:00Speaker 2: a little bit when it gets hot like that and
- 20:02Speaker 2: get him in that rhythm. When it gets high and
- 20:05Speaker 2: hot like that, that's when he makes those things. He's
- 20:07Speaker 2: not just doing it. It's in those moments where everything
- 20:11Speaker 2: is on him. We're going to lose the first game
- 20:14Speaker 2: of the season unless I bring the team down and
- 20:16Speaker 2: score a touchdown. And oh, here's the touchdown. I'm going
- 20:21Speaker 2: to score in front of the home fans, an 80-yard
- 20:23Speaker 2: bomb to Josh Palmer. And I get spun around and
- 20:25Speaker 2: throw the pick. That was stupid. Why would I think
- 20:27Speaker 2: that was going to work in the moment I did
- 20:29Speaker 2: think that was going to work? And he better know that, right?
- 20:32Speaker 2: But we continue to see it. We see it less
- 20:34Speaker 2: and less and less. I mean, we saw some turnovers
- 20:38Speaker 2: last year, but we didn't see it in the– you know,
- 20:40Speaker 2: he came back and willed us into that overtime game
- 20:42Speaker 2: and really sensed Houston in the first wild card game
- 20:46Speaker 2: that we hadn't seen in the playoffs. So are we
- 20:49Speaker 2: seeing it down the stretch in clutch moments yet?
- 20:51Speaker 3: No.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Was it a lot more old times? Yes. As that growth,
- 20:56Speaker 2: he does less and less and less of it, but
- 20:58Speaker 2: it still comes out. And it's a game where you
- 21:01Speaker 2: go up three and a half games in the division
- 21:03Speaker 2: and You, you know, you, you go on a homestand
- 21:06Speaker 2: where people say two and two, we'd love two and
- 21:08Speaker 2: two in preseason. And we're four and all going into
- 21:11Speaker 2: a team that the unanimous champion Rams and they're two
- 21:14Speaker 2: and two might go five and all. Fuck it.
- 21:15Speaker 1: You might've been able to bury the Patriots. You might've
- 21:17Speaker 1: been able to bury them.
- 21:19Speaker 2: And now we're in a situation, the same exact thing
- 21:21Speaker 2: that happened last year. Josh didn't go, you know, sugar
- 21:24Speaker 2: eye Josh to lose against the Patriots last year. That
- 21:26Speaker 2: was a lot of other things too. But the, the, it's,
- 21:30Speaker 2: it's a tough deal because that's the reality and that's
- 21:33Speaker 2: the NFL. And so we don't have time. Like, yes,
- 21:36Speaker 2: it's not coming in the crucial moments and yes, it's,
- 21:38Speaker 2: you know, it, it doesn't happen as often anymore, but
- 21:42Speaker 2: the itch, I will continue to say it. Nickel city crew.
- 21:46Speaker 2: It's the itch that we don't get. And the, in
- 21:48Speaker 2: the inch in that moment was the decision, the quick
- 21:52Speaker 2: split second decision of I'm going to bomb it. Cause
- 21:55Speaker 2: he was open and it might work. It might not boom,
- 21:57Speaker 2: pick it's over. That's the inch, you know, and we're
- 22:00Speaker 2: not getting those because those are still there a little bit.
- 22:04Speaker 2: So we got to get to the strainer. We got
- 22:06Speaker 2: to get them out.
- 22:07Speaker 1: I agree.
- 22:08Speaker 2: And we can criticize, but like, I'm also putting it,
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, that nobody helped out on Sunday either other
- 22:13Speaker 2: than zero. Keon Coleman is the only person on that
- 22:16Speaker 2: team that deserves any credit of positivity, you know, from
- 22:20Speaker 2: Joe Brady to the offensive defensive, the special teams, both
- 22:23Speaker 2: lines got pushed around a little bit, the run game,
- 22:26Speaker 2: the receivers, the defensive backfield. Everybody other than zero is
- 22:30Speaker 2: a narrow down. So we can criticize Josh, but it
- 22:33Speaker 2: also like we need to not be hectic and lose
- 22:36Speaker 2: the run game and have a little more finger on
- 22:39Speaker 2: the pulse. Joe Brady is learning. Let's hope he settles
- 22:41Speaker 2: into the season and doesn't get Josh into those high
- 22:44Speaker 2: blood pressure situations. And Josh learns from this like, damn,
- 22:48Speaker 2: I'm still susceptible to these. I can still freak out
- 22:51Speaker 2: and go nuts, right? So I need to work on that.
- 22:54Speaker 1: See, but this is my problem with it. It wasn't
- 22:56Speaker 1: even a freak-out situation.
- 22:57Speaker 3: I understand what you're talking about in respect to the
- 22:59Speaker 3: fact of what was on the line and a perfect start.
- 23:01Speaker 3: You get a chance to possibly bury the Patriots four
- 23:04Speaker 3: games into the year because of their shitty start. But
- 23:06Speaker 3: it wasn't time to panic. It was not fourth down.
- 23:10Speaker 3: It was not a situation where you even need to panic.
- 23:12Speaker 3: Everybody I kept hearing, they don't even want to acknowledge
- 23:14Speaker 3: Ty Johnson. They just want to say, well, he could
- 23:16Speaker 3: have thrown it away.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Joe Brady said that.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Josh said that after a post game that he could
- 23:20Speaker 3: have thrown it away or what the case may be.
- 23:21Speaker 1: So fine. You don't even want to acknowledge Ty Johnson
- 23:24Speaker 1: that he was wide open. Then fine.
- 23:26Speaker 3: If you don't want to acknowledge that my problem is
- 23:28Speaker 3: that there were, there were other options. There were other
- 23:31Speaker 3: things that you could have done and chiefly go to
- 23:34Speaker 3: third and sixth. Then you've got all three timeouts DT.
- 23:38Speaker 3: You've got everything that you need to cover yourself and
- 23:41Speaker 3: cover your ass on that. In that particular moment, it
- 23:43Speaker 3: was not, it was not panic mode time. It was
- 23:46Speaker 3: the situation didn't call for that. So with, With 1-12
- 23:49Speaker 3: left or whatever was left on the clock, all three timeouts,
- 23:52Speaker 3: that's what I mean when I say grow up. And
- 23:54Speaker 3: I was arguing with people on Twitter by that. Like,
- 23:56Speaker 3: I need the situational awareness of Josh to know risk-reward.
- 24:01Speaker 3: What is at risk if I uncork this motherfucker and
- 24:04Speaker 3: let it go?
- 24:05Speaker 1: And what's the reward? The reward is obviously he catches
- 24:07Speaker 1: the ball and, like you said, all the glory. Touchdown,
- 24:10Speaker 1: and it's awesome. The risk, it far outweighed the reward.
- 24:14Speaker 3: It was not worth it in that particular moment because
- 24:16Speaker 3: it was second-largest in six with all three timeouts. So
- 24:19Speaker 3: when I point that out on Twitter, if your initial
- 24:22Speaker 3: reaction is to, to clutch pearls and to say, well, you, well,
- 24:26Speaker 3: it's the defense and we can't criticize Josh and this
- 24:28Speaker 3: and that. Listen, I keep hearing about the last three
- 24:32Speaker 3: post seasons. Josh Allen has had the ball in his
- 24:35Speaker 3: hands with a chance to go win or tie the game.
- 24:37Speaker 1: He doesn't get it done.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Now I can't stand when people tell me that because
- 24:41Speaker 3: it hurts because it's the truth.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Now, now, yes. Are there other factors? Are there injuries?
- 24:46Speaker 3: Are there, Other factors of the defense always shitting on
- 24:49Speaker 3: themselves back with McDermott and stuff like that in the playoffs.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Yes, I get it.
- 24:53Speaker 3: But the facts is the fact that he has had
- 24:54Speaker 3: the ball the last three times and they didn't get
- 24:56Speaker 3: it done. Just like on Sunday, they did have the
- 24:58Speaker 3: ball with a chance to win it and they did
- 25:00Speaker 3: not get it done or the chance to tie or
- 25:02Speaker 3: win it. I just need situational awareness. And to me,
- 25:06Speaker 3: it wasn't a panic situation. So when you say that
- 25:08Speaker 3: he gets frantic and stuff like that, again, it's year nine.
- 25:11Speaker 3: I thought a lot of that stuff was worked out.
- 25:13Speaker 3: And I guess I'm just not giving him passes because
- 25:16Speaker 3: of the fact that he is a great quarterback for
- 25:19Speaker 3: a team that hasn't had great quarterbacks. That just, it's just,
- 25:22Speaker 3: it's just a, it's a poor, it's a poor man's
- 25:25Speaker 3: straw argument that we can't criticize him because he is
- 25:28Speaker 3: so good and we would be nothing without him.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Again, water is wet. Like I know that we would
- 25:33Speaker 1: be nothing without Josh.
- 25:34Speaker 3: I don't, I don't think that it's against the rules
- 25:37Speaker 3: to let, to just voice when he's, when he's fucking up.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Like I just don't get it, man. I got called
- 25:43Speaker 3: a not a real fan on Twitter yesterday. by a
- 25:45Speaker 3: couple of people and I'm not going to call out
- 25:46Speaker 3: names because it doesn't even matter. I argued with them.
- 25:48Speaker 3: It was, it was DT. I'm you're, you're laughing. It
- 25:52Speaker 3: was all week fucking long from Sunday night, all week long.
- 25:55Speaker 3: I I've been battling people and swiping people away that,
- 25:57Speaker 3: oh man, you can't, but you can't come down on Josh.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Fuck out of here, man. Fuck out of here.
- 26:03Speaker 2: You, you can come down for circumstances of that decision-making
- 26:07Speaker 2: that he did. And, and he did. I mean, nobody
- 26:10Speaker 2: gets a pass. He didn't get a pass. He might
- 26:12Speaker 2: get a pass from these, you know, whoever these softies
- 26:15Speaker 2: are you're battling on Twitter, but he don't get a
- 26:17Speaker 2: pass because there's an L in the column, Rob. The
- 26:20Speaker 2: one is the loss. The one is there. It's there
- 26:23Speaker 2: because of that. It's there because of that and because
- 26:26Speaker 2: of you because you are the $ 55 million man. Like,
- 26:29Speaker 2: it doesn't matter about the defense. It doesn't matter about
- 26:31Speaker 2: any of that cliche, cliche, cliche. It's on you, 17,
- 26:34Speaker 2: and he knows that, and that's one. So nobody gets
- 26:36Speaker 2: a pass. The softies on Twitter can give him a pass,
- 26:39Speaker 2: but the one, he don't get passed. It's the NFL. Yeah.
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- 27:32Speaker 1: DT. Okay. I got that off my chest.
- 27:36Speaker 3: Let's transition a little bit, you know, because I'm not
- 27:39Speaker 3: going to cry over spilled milk. It was a poor opportunity.
- 27:42Speaker 3: It was a great opportunity, and we didn't get it done.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Turning the page, DT, it's a big test. It doesn't
- 27:48Speaker 3: get any easier. This was the stretch of games that
- 27:51Speaker 3: we were talking about that, listen, you've got to show
- 27:54Speaker 3: what kind of team you are. And now it's on
- 27:56Speaker 3: Joe Brady to kind of make some adjustments and make
- 27:58Speaker 3: sure that he's ready to go for Monday Night Football, DT,
- 28:01Speaker 3: at SoFi, the actual venue that the Super Bowl that
- 28:04Speaker 3: we hope will be at in Super Bowl 61. Listen,
- 28:07Speaker 3: the Rams, a team that's been going through their own
- 28:09Speaker 3: shit too. Aaron Donald missed last week. I guess apparently
- 28:12Speaker 3: he's supposed to come back. Miles Garrett is still out
- 28:14Speaker 3: with his injury. DT, this is a game that is
- 28:17Speaker 3: going to be really hard, especially with the way that
- 28:19Speaker 3: your defense.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Has been playing. I'm worried about it because of that,
- 28:23Speaker 1: because of the defense.
- 28:24Speaker 3: I understand that Josh Allen dropped the ball, but Part
- 28:28Speaker 3: of the reason he was in that situation is because
- 28:29Speaker 3: the defense was so shitty. So I can grant everybody that.
- 28:32Speaker 3: It does not get easier. Yes, it's not a mobile
- 28:34Speaker 3: quarterback like you said, but it doesn't get easier. They
- 28:36Speaker 3: have weapons. Puka is back and healthy. You've got Devontae
- 28:40Speaker 3: Adams who looked great to start the season. This is
- 28:42Speaker 3: going to be a barn burner possibly if the defense
- 28:45Speaker 3: can't help out.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Well, the Grinch Kobe's Josh Allen wore when he scored
- 28:49Speaker 2: six touchdowns and they lost the game a few years
- 28:51Speaker 2: ago in SoFi. And then a few years before that,
- 28:54Speaker 2: the season opener, what an awesome game that was when
- 28:57Speaker 2: the Bills beat the breaks off them after their Super Bowl. So, yeah,
- 29:02Speaker 2: they've all been good ones in so far in recent
- 29:05Speaker 2: with 17 of the boys. And this is, yeah, he's
- 29:09Speaker 2: not a mobile quarterback, but he can throw for 600. And, uh,
- 29:12Speaker 2: you know, that might be, uh, that's we got to
- 29:18Speaker 2: keep them under that. So, uh, a big matchup primetime.
- 29:21Speaker 2: I mean, this is the matchup that I I'll admit
- 29:24Speaker 2: hand up DT nickel city crew. I'm the most scared
- 29:27Speaker 2: of in August, looking at this first slate schedule, you know, the,
- 29:30Speaker 2: the Rams are not just a team. Oh, I don't
- 29:32Speaker 2: know if we're winning or losing. I'm scared a little bit.
- 29:35Speaker 2: I'm not scared of any team in the NFL, but
- 29:39Speaker 2: I'm scared of what their potential could be. They're mean
- 29:43Speaker 2: in all facets, and they added a couple of meanest
- 29:45Speaker 2: dudes in the NFL. Thank God Miles Garrett won't be in,
- 29:49Speaker 2: and hopefully Aaron Donald is washed up. He didn't hear
- 29:53Speaker 2: me say that, though. No bulletin board material. But it's
- 29:58Speaker 2: prime time, baby. It's prime time. L.A. under the lights.
- 30:01Speaker 2: And Josh tends to come to the lights when those happen.
- 30:06Speaker 2: And here we are, Monday Night Ball. What could be better?
- 30:09Speaker 2: Keeping us up late, ready to go, hopefully after a W.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Yeah, let's break it down. You know, now we'll break
- 30:15Speaker 3: it down. I mean, Bill's offense against this Rams defense.
- 30:20Speaker 3: You know, listen, they're 2-2. They've had their troubles. They
- 30:24Speaker 3: brought in those two corners, you know, McDuffie. and the
- 30:27Speaker 3: other one from Kansas City. Listen, they've got weapons out
- 30:30Speaker 3: there on defense. I think it's going to be incumbent
- 30:34Speaker 3: on the Bills and Joe Brady to run the football.
- 30:38Speaker 3: This should be a ball control game. This should be
- 30:40Speaker 3: something where you kind of slow it down and you
- 30:43Speaker 3: kind of let drives kind of, you know, marinate a
- 30:47Speaker 3: little bit, if you will. If you've got to go
- 30:48Speaker 3: on a 10-play drive, that's no problem. If you've got
- 30:50Speaker 3: to go on a 12-play drive, no problem. Listen, James
- 30:53Speaker 3: Cook is frustrating us right now by putting the ball
- 30:55Speaker 3: on the ground. He's still a horse. He's still, he's
- 30:57Speaker 3: averaging six yards a pop. Bill's mafia, Nicholson agrees, averaging
- 31:01Speaker 3: six yards a pop. So yes, the fumbles have been frustrating.
- 31:04Speaker 3: I think that they want to get away from the
- 31:06Speaker 3: running game too quickly. Last week, they didn't get to
- 31:08Speaker 3: it until the second half. And then I think it
- 31:11Speaker 3: was just a little bit too late. I think that
- 31:12Speaker 3: you give this guy 20 touches, whether it be between
- 31:16Speaker 3: the running game or out of the backfield, give him
- 31:19Speaker 3: the ball. It doesn't seem like they want to let
- 31:21Speaker 3: Ray Davis run it. They never let Ty Johnson run
- 31:23Speaker 3: it ever. So let James cook, literally, figuratively and literally.
- 31:27Speaker 3: Let him cook. Let him get behind that offensive line.
- 31:30Speaker 3: That's one thing that the offensive is doing great. The
- 31:32Speaker 3: offensive line is blocking well up front. They are blocking
- 31:36Speaker 3: well for run, for run, excuse me, for the run game.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Past pro, I know that they have some issues sometimes.
- 31:42Speaker 3: I know they got out of a bad game and got,
- 31:44Speaker 3: you know.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Off balance.
- 31:45Speaker 2: A couple bad games, Rob. A couple bad games.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Okay.
- 31:48Speaker 3: I understand that the snowman is going through. Listen, the
- 31:52Speaker 3: run game works. It was one of your bread and
- 31:54Speaker 3: butters last year. I'm willing to sacrifice some of the
- 31:58Speaker 3: glitz and glamor to get a W on the road.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I think that you don't have to be pretty on
- 32:02Speaker 3: the road. You go on the road and you find
- 32:04Speaker 3: a way to get the fuck out of there with
- 32:05Speaker 3: a win. And I think that the run game is
- 32:07Speaker 3: going to be key to that.
- 32:08Speaker 1: I really do.
- 32:09Speaker 2: Well, I think the opposite, Rob. I think getting pretty
- 32:12Speaker 2: is what we're going to see Monday night. Now, hear
- 32:16Speaker 2: me out. Hear me out on this. I think getting
- 32:18Speaker 2: pretty because it's the– I mean– Joe Brady's not an
- 32:22Speaker 2: Einstein of the offensive mind, but Sean McVay is working
- 32:25Speaker 2: his way into that creative, all-time offensive mind, young guy culture.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Joe Brady is kind of in lockstep to try to
- 32:34Speaker 2: be what Sean McVay is. So there's going to be
- 32:36Speaker 2: a battle of that going on, I think. And that
- 32:40Speaker 2: is intentional of prime time and things you're not going
- 32:43Speaker 2: to expect. It's week five, so you're going to see
- 32:45Speaker 2: something in the playbook. Bang, that might be something we
- 32:48Speaker 2: could do. And so I see the flashiness in that regard.
- 32:51Speaker 2: But I also think, like we said, we're learning from
- 32:55Speaker 2: our mistakes and we learn that 12 touches isn't enough
- 32:57Speaker 2: for four. And we go into this game knowing, yes, okay,
- 33:00Speaker 2: we do need to control possessions. I need to keep
- 33:02Speaker 2: the finger on Josh. I need to keep it chill.
- 33:04Speaker 2: We need to, you know, we need to last out
- 33:06Speaker 2: drives and kind of control the game and not play
- 33:08Speaker 2: from behind or whatever the case. But I also think
- 33:11Speaker 2: you're going to see the flashy stuff too. So just
- 33:13Speaker 2: the setting of the, the vibe, the coach, the Joe
- 33:16Speaker 2: Brady trying to, you know, still trying to prove himself
- 33:19Speaker 2: in this. I think we'll see some pretty shit, but
- 33:22Speaker 2: I also think we know, we know we're going to
- 33:24Speaker 2: be in a, in a more of a time possession game,
- 33:27Speaker 2: but I think you'll see some pretty shit that you're,
- 33:29Speaker 2: you're not expecting to. I mean, I'm right there. Like,
- 33:32Speaker 2: but I, I, you.
- 33:32Speaker 1: Do, I'm not saying.
- 33:35Speaker 2: We don't live and die off of it and have
- 33:37Speaker 2: that anxiety, but we're seeing it knowing, you know, and
- 33:41Speaker 2: I think you're going to see a lot more on
- 33:42Speaker 2: the ground. So, that's a weird middle place to play,
- 33:45Speaker 2: but you're, it's going to be prettier than you think, Rob.
- 33:49Speaker 3: I don't need Joe Brady to prove that he's the
- 33:51Speaker 3: smartest coach on the field.
- 33:53Speaker 1: He just got out. I know he got, he got out.
- 33:57Speaker 2: I'm telling you what I think is going to happen.
- 34:00Speaker 1: I understand. I don't need him.
- 34:01Speaker 3: I don't need you to prove anything to about McVay
- 34:04Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
- 34:05Speaker 1: Like I know McVay is a, a wonder, a wonder kid. And,
- 34:08Speaker 1: Same thing with Shanahan. I get it.
- 34:09Speaker 3: I don't need you to, I just need you to
- 34:11Speaker 3: go on the road. You've got two straight road games.
- 34:13Speaker 3: And if you can come away with a split, I'll
- 34:16Speaker 3: be happy. If you can go to an O I'll
- 34:17Speaker 3: be ecstatic. Like don't, I don't, I don't know, man,
- 34:20Speaker 3: run the football. Now the bills, the Rams offense against
- 34:24Speaker 3: this bill's defense. That's the number one thing that worries me.
- 34:27Speaker 1: DT.
- 34:27Speaker 3: It's the reason why I'm not confident in this game.
- 34:30Speaker 3: I don't think that, you know, I'm not necessarily saying
- 34:32Speaker 3: it's going to be a loss. If we lose, I
- 34:34Speaker 3: will not be surprised. It's because of the defense. Listen,
- 34:38Speaker 3: I think that the defense, I said two weeks ago,
- 34:41Speaker 3: I said, if the defense lets the Chargers come in
- 34:45Speaker 3: and get their mojo back, that's a bad sign, and
- 34:48Speaker 3: we should start to make sure that the alarm is working.
- 34:50Speaker 3: You don't have to sound the alarm, but you need
- 34:52Speaker 3: to make sure that it's working. Well, they didn't, but
- 34:54Speaker 3: the offense had a shitty game. Last week, it set
- 34:57Speaker 3: me right back to the same thing, DT. We let,
- 34:59Speaker 3: like you talked about earlier in the show, we let
- 35:01Speaker 3: a quarterback who was struggling like no other look like
- 35:05Speaker 3: an MVP candidate all over again from last year, had
- 35:08Speaker 3: a great game, his best game of the season. And,
- 35:11Speaker 3: I mean, yes, there were some crazy plays. That one
- 35:13Speaker 3: wide receiver made that crazy one-handed catch, stuff like that.
- 35:15Speaker 1: But, listen, I don't want.
- 35:17Speaker 3: To see a situation where they're just up and down
- 35:19Speaker 3: the field on us, up and down the field. There's
- 35:21Speaker 3: got to be something that Jim Leonard can do, whether
- 35:23Speaker 3: it be blitzing, whether it be playing more man. Whatever
- 35:26Speaker 3: the case may be, there's got to be something that
- 35:28Speaker 3: we can do because we don't have any new players.
- 35:30Speaker 3: You know, that's not happening right now. So, yeah, I
- 35:32Speaker 3: know that the trade deadline comes, you know, a little
- 35:34Speaker 3: bit later in about a month. Listen, you've got who
- 35:36Speaker 3: you've got right now. there's gotta be something that Jim
- 35:38Speaker 3: Leonard can scheme up because this team can put up
- 35:40Speaker 3: points on you. They can make you look stupid quickly.
- 35:43Speaker 3: If you're not on your P's and Q's and, and
- 35:45Speaker 3: that's the number one thing I'm worried about for, for
- 35:47Speaker 3: this game on Monday night.
- 35:48Speaker 2: I said, I was joking about 600 yards, Rob, but
- 35:51Speaker 2: I mean, I, I need to see what's what's 47
- 35:57Speaker 2: on the injury report today.
- 35:59Speaker 3: We got goodness. I haven't heard because today was their
- 36:02Speaker 3: first day.
- 36:03Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think that's a, that's a necessity.
- 36:07Speaker 2: you know, that's a, that's a necessity to get him
- 36:09Speaker 2: back into the lineup. And yeah, there's really, yeah, but
- 36:14Speaker 2: I mean, it's, what else, what else, you know, what else?
- 36:19Speaker 2: So it's, it's the typical cliche of can't, can't stop them.
- 36:26Speaker 2: So it's going to be a lot of contained and yeah,
- 36:28Speaker 2: whatever that has to do, some new looks, some, we,
- 36:30Speaker 2: this is the point of this defense, right? It's, it
- 36:33Speaker 2: is because you can get exotic and, move in and out.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Shout out Fernando Brazil exotics. And, uh, you know, it's, it's,
- 36:41Speaker 2: that's what we want. That's the point of this. That's
- 36:44Speaker 2: why you do it to have things happen like that.
- 36:46Speaker 2: So that Matt Stafford going to have to, it's hard,
- 36:48Speaker 2: hard guy to confuse. He's seen a lot of things
- 36:50Speaker 2: come his way in, you know, in his day and
- 36:52Speaker 2: he's going to pick you apart. He's going to throw
- 36:54Speaker 2: perfect dimes, not looking, you know, and then some other
- 36:57Speaker 2: crazy stuff nine does, but it's a non-mobile, uh, So,
- 37:02Speaker 2: you know, the Deion walkers and that Oliver, if he
- 37:05Speaker 2: gets back and just being tenacious in the middle to
- 37:08Speaker 2: try to cause havoc, rush for, get your hands up
- 37:10Speaker 2: in the middle, just make it a little uncomfortable to
- 37:13Speaker 2: get them off their timing, off their step. And the
- 37:15Speaker 2: cliche of you're not going to stop them. You just
- 37:17Speaker 2: got to contain them. It's got to keep them under 30,
- 37:20Speaker 2: you know, and that's a tall order with a guy
- 37:24Speaker 2: who could throw for 600 and Devante Adams, Jordan Brand
- 37:27Speaker 2: going for three touchdowns a game and Puka Nakua could
- 37:30Speaker 2: rip off 200 and the running backs are a good
- 37:32Speaker 2: tandem minutes, yada, yada, yada. You can't get embarrassed out here.
- 37:37Speaker 2: If you want to win a super bowl this year,
- 37:38Speaker 2: you know, like that's what it comes down to as well.
- 37:40Speaker 2: Like it's a work in progress. It's this, it's that,
- 37:43Speaker 2: but you can't get, you can't get embarrassed by another
- 37:45Speaker 2: NFL team. You can't, if you want any chance to
- 37:48Speaker 2: win the super bowl, you can't get embarrassed. So there.
- 37:53Speaker 3: Oh, we lose DT. I mean, listen, it'll be interesting
- 37:58Speaker 3: because you definitely don't want to get embarrassed. Now, one thing,
- 38:00Speaker 3: I was reading the IG chat. I appreciate you guys.
- 38:02Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep up with you guys on there
- 38:04Speaker 3: as well. I hope that Skyler does get a jersey 24-7.
- 38:08Speaker 1: I hope he does.
- 38:09Speaker 3: I hope he gets a jersey because I think that
- 38:10Speaker 3: it's past time. This might be a situation where, you know,
- 38:13Speaker 3: I said it before the Chargers game. I said, let
- 38:17Speaker 3: DJ relax, let him rest, and then bring him back
- 38:21Speaker 3: slowly because we need him for the tail end of
- 38:22Speaker 3: the year. This guy has been remarkably durable throughout his career. So,
- 38:27Speaker 3: I was calling for Skylar Bell to get a jersey
- 38:29Speaker 3: a couple weeks ago. I was touching on something from
- 38:32Speaker 3: the IG chat, DT. They were asking if Skylar was
- 38:34Speaker 3: going to get a jersey this week. I said it
- 38:36Speaker 3: before the Chargers game to let this guy, let DJ
- 38:40Speaker 3: rest and let him rest.
- 38:41Speaker 1: And they didn't want to do it because he's a competitor.
- 38:43Speaker 1: He's a warrior.
- 38:44Speaker 3: Well, now we may not have him this week because
- 38:46Speaker 3: you let him play against, you know, right after that
- 38:48Speaker 3: Detroit game.
- 38:49Speaker 1: And I don't know. I'm ready to see Skylar Bell, though.
- 38:51Speaker 1: I am. I'm ready to see Skylar Bell. I want
- 38:53Speaker 1: to see what he's got.
- 38:54Speaker 3: The fact that I think that he can add something
- 38:57Speaker 3: to the offense and we don't know until, you know,
- 38:59Speaker 3: let him play.
- 39:00Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
- 39:01Speaker 2: And it's capital and get them out on the field.
- 39:03Speaker 2: If DJ Moore needs the time, we got to give
- 39:05Speaker 2: it to him. The offense is different without a minute.
- 39:08Speaker 2: It's very clear. It's, it's very, I mean, you cannot
- 39:11Speaker 2: be a deep detailed football fan and notice the difference
- 39:15Speaker 2: when two is out of the game. So it's a
- 39:18Speaker 2: great signing. It's a great thing to have now moving forward,
- 39:21Speaker 2: but we, we need him in, December and January, not,
- 39:24Speaker 2: you know, not so much October, you know, October 10th
- 39:27Speaker 2: in in Los Angeles. I, why not? We draft him high.
- 39:33Speaker 2: There's a lot of high potential about him when he
- 39:35Speaker 2: did have his debut in the preseason, he balled out.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Let's see, let's see what we can do. And you know,
- 39:40Speaker 2: in a situation where there's no film and That's where
- 39:42Speaker 2: you might see the fancy stuff I'm talking about, Rob.
- 39:45Speaker 2: Maybe you see a little jet sweep, a little Skylar
- 39:48Speaker 2: Bell jet sweep, 20-yard touchdown run, anytime touchdown score, Skylar Bell,
- 39:53Speaker 2: Monday night, 820.
- 39:55Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. Fucking DT handing out gambling tips. I mean, okay.
- 40:00Speaker 1: I mean, no problem with it. Listen, I want to
- 40:02Speaker 1: see him on the field.
- 40:03Speaker 2: If he plays.
- 40:03Speaker 1: I want to see him on the field because I
- 40:05Speaker 1: think that DJ needs help.
- 40:06Speaker 3: You're not helping yourself by continuing to put him out
- 40:09Speaker 3: there He's a warrior, and then he gets banged up,
- 40:11Speaker 3: and then you've got to take him out of the
- 40:12Speaker 3: game anyway.
- 40:13Speaker 1: Then you're changing the whole game plan. Let him rest.
- 40:16Speaker 3: Let him figure out a way to get back to 100%.
- 40:19Speaker 3: And like I said, you've got two games. Then you've
- 40:21Speaker 3: got a bye week. You've got plenty of time before
- 40:23Speaker 3: you come back home for Baltimore to get this guy
- 40:26Speaker 3: ready to go. So I'm in favor of it. I've
- 40:28Speaker 3: been in favor of it since before the Chargers game.
- 40:30Speaker 1: So we'll see.
- 40:31Speaker 3: Now, as we begin to wrap up before the tailgate report, DT,
- 40:38Speaker 3: It's funny because, listen, the NFL is just so funny
- 40:43Speaker 3: in the way that.
- 40:44Speaker 1: It works because you've got a team like the Patriots.
- 40:47Speaker 1: They look like they were dead.
- 40:49Speaker 3: We look like we get a chance to bury them,
- 40:51Speaker 3: and then you don't take care of business, and just
- 40:53Speaker 3: like that, things change. And just like that, they're right
- 40:55Speaker 3: back on your ass, and they're looking at you, and
- 40:57Speaker 3: you've got to see them out of the rearview mirror.
- 41:00Speaker 3: What do you think some of the things that need
- 41:01Speaker 3: to be done going forward, and that's not just necessarily
- 41:04Speaker 3: Monday night included because of the fact that It's now
- 41:08Speaker 3: a division race. Whether we wanted it or not, it
- 41:10Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You don't get to coast this year. These
- 41:12Speaker 3: guys are going to be in the mix. And one
- 41:14Speaker 3: of the things for me is that I'm now wrestling
- 41:18Speaker 3: with Joe Brady afterwards and listening to him. And I'm
- 41:21Speaker 3: almost getting ready to just stop listening to him after
- 41:25Speaker 3: games because I think he's talking to us, but I
- 41:29Speaker 3: don't think that he's giving the same message to his team.
- 41:31Speaker 3: And I hope that he's not because he's talking a
- 41:34Speaker 3: lot about Even after the Josh Allen thing, he said,
- 41:36Speaker 3: you know, what did he say? I'll never, I'll never
- 41:39Speaker 3: put it on Josh to, to, to try to neuter
- 41:42Speaker 3: him and not let him go take that shot, which
- 41:44Speaker 3: is an idiotic thing to say after the game that
- 41:47Speaker 3: you just lost because he went viola ball. So listen,
- 41:51Speaker 3: and I see you Zach in there with the comments
- 41:53Speaker 3: and stuff like that. People DT, they keep telling me, well,
- 41:55Speaker 3: you can't take that out of Josh. You can't take
- 41:57Speaker 3: it out of them. And you just got to take
- 41:59Speaker 3: the good with the bad and stuff. And I'm just,
- 42:02Speaker 3: I I'm, I'm, I'm sorry. Like, No, you could take
- 42:05Speaker 3: the good and X out the bad. If, if everybody's
- 42:08Speaker 3: smart and thinking, and again, being situationally aware. So for me, DT,
- 42:13Speaker 3: I'm thinking about just shutting off Brady altogether because I
- 42:16Speaker 3: don't get much from his press conferences other than mad.
- 42:18Speaker 3: I get mad when he talks the way that he talks.
- 42:20Speaker 3: I get mad that he's it seems like he's.
- 42:24Speaker 1: Proving he's trying to prove something.
- 42:26Speaker 3: I don't need him to prove anything to me. I
- 42:28Speaker 3: know that he's not McDermott because he's completely different than McDermott.
- 42:31Speaker 3: But the, just the kicking the ball, you know, taking
- 42:34Speaker 3: the ball every time. Like I just, all of this
- 42:36Speaker 3: type of stuff, he's trying to be different. He's trying to,
- 42:41Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
- 42:41Speaker 1: It's something about that whole, they've got to play us,
- 42:45Speaker 1: where it's like, well, we have to play the other
- 42:47Speaker 1: team too.
- 42:47Speaker 2: So it sounds cool.
- 42:49Speaker 3: And it's like Rex had a slogan and Doug Marone
- 42:51Speaker 3: had a slogan and all coaches have a slogan.
- 42:53Speaker 1: So to me, I don't know.
- 42:55Speaker 3: I'm thinking about just shutting him off and not listening
- 42:57Speaker 3: to him anymore because I see him getting worked up
- 42:59Speaker 3: over it. And I don't think that he's necessarily talking
- 43:01Speaker 3: to his team the same way, or at least I'm,
- 43:03Speaker 3: I pray that he's not.
- 43:04Speaker 2: We're getting worked up because this is, this is the light.
- 43:07Speaker 2: This is our life to win the championship with 17,
- 43:09Speaker 2: but this is has to happen. Like, so you, yes,
- 43:12Speaker 2: it deserves to be worked up and everybody in this
- 43:14Speaker 2: fucking building should be worked up to win a Superbowl.
- 43:16Speaker 2: Like it's inch by inch and everything matters. Every decision matters.
- 43:21Speaker 2: It's the NFL. And that's, that's what it is, man.
- 43:24Speaker 2: If he is trying to prove himself and have the
- 43:26Speaker 2: slogans and whatever, every coach in here would have the same,
- 43:29Speaker 2: Not the same slogan, but a slogan. And there's scarlet letters,
- 43:33Speaker 2: and the scarlet letters are losses. And if you have
- 43:36Speaker 2: enough of them, you get burned at the fucking stake.
- 43:38Speaker 2: And that's it. That's the premise of the NFL through
- 43:42Speaker 2: and through, no matter what your position, from the ball
- 43:44Speaker 2: boy to Josh Allen. If you put too many L's together,
- 43:50Speaker 2: you're burned at the stake. So you can have your slogan.
- 43:52Speaker 2: You can do this. You can do that. But Sunday,
- 43:56Speaker 2: that's your first. You only get so many. And do
- 44:00Speaker 2: you learn that or do you not learn that? We'll
- 44:02Speaker 2: see Monday night. And I believe that he can, obviously.
- 44:06Speaker 2: But I think there's going to be a slogan from anybody.
- 44:09Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Because if you have enough L's, you get burned at
- 44:15Speaker 2: the stake.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Now, are you in agreement with him taking the ball
- 44:18Speaker 3: every time? Because I don't like it. I like the
- 44:20Speaker 3: double dip. Maybe I played too much Madden growing up,
- 44:23Speaker 3: but I like the double dip.
- 44:24Speaker 2: The double dip is obviously analytically with what you should do.
- 44:29Speaker 2: And we've had success with the double dip with this team.
- 44:32Speaker 2: We got back in the games with the double dip.
- 44:34Speaker 2: And this year, it's worked negatively against us twice. With
- 44:38Speaker 2: the Patriots game, getting the ball right out of half,
- 44:40Speaker 2: they go down and score, and then you're trailing. And
- 44:43Speaker 2: in the lions game that they made that way closer
- 44:46Speaker 2: than it ever needed to be because of it. So it's,
- 44:48Speaker 2: it's bit us in the ass twice now and hasn't
- 44:50Speaker 2: helped us. So I would hope that that's enough to
- 44:52Speaker 2: kind of analytically say we should kick it.
- 44:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Listen, it'll be interesting. Like
- 44:59Speaker 3: I said, I, the season is not over or anything
- 45:01Speaker 3: like that. I'm not mad that I don't think that
- 45:04Speaker 3: Josh Allen can't get it done or anything like, no, no,
- 45:06Speaker 3: of course he was in that situation because the defense
- 45:08Speaker 3: was horrible. I just give more grace because I expect
- 45:12Speaker 3: that's just me personally. I knew the defense was going
- 45:14Speaker 3: to be shitty or not shitty, but I knew that
- 45:16Speaker 3: they were going to have their struggles. Jim Leonard told
- 45:18Speaker 3: us as much in training camp. He told us he
- 45:21Speaker 3: was trying to do a nice way to do it.
- 45:23Speaker 3: He was trying to, you know, not say, I don't
- 45:24Speaker 3: have the guys I need, but he was kind of saying, well,
- 45:26Speaker 3: I really don't have all the guys I need right now.
- 45:28Speaker 3: So like he was trying to tell us, whether you
- 45:30Speaker 3: were listening or not, that's on you. But I thought
- 45:32Speaker 3: that the defense would lag behind, which makes it, and
- 45:36Speaker 3: it puts it, the onus is on the offense to carry.
- 45:39Speaker 3: That's just the nature of football. It's one side of
- 45:42Speaker 3: the ball has to carry the other if they're struggling.
- 45:44Speaker 3: And I think that, you know, it was a golden
- 45:46Speaker 3: opportunity missed last week. We'll see how they bounce back.
- 45:49Speaker 3: We've got a formidable opponent on the road. It seems
- 45:52Speaker 3: like the Bills are going to stay out West DT.
- 45:54Speaker 3: I hear rumblings that they're going to stay out West.
- 45:56Speaker 3: Instead of coming back, no point of that with the
- 45:58Speaker 3: short week from.
- 45:59Speaker 2: Monday to Sunday. Don't stay in Vegas, though.
- 46:01Speaker 3: Don't stay in Vegas, no. Do not stay in Vegas.
- 46:04Speaker 3: I would advise against that. But it looks like they
- 46:07Speaker 3: are going to stay out west on that coast and
- 46:09Speaker 3: make sure that their bodies are acclimated. So I'm down
- 46:11Speaker 3: with that, that sports science theory. We'll see what happens, DT.
- 46:15Speaker 3: I think everything is still in front of us, including
- 46:18Speaker 3: the one seed. I know that Kansas City doesn't seem
- 46:20Speaker 3: like they're ready to lose anytime soon. We saw that
- 46:24Speaker 3: story before. You do have to play them. You do
- 46:26Speaker 3: get a chance to play them head up and see
- 46:27Speaker 3: how that works out for you. So everything I think
- 46:30Speaker 3: is still right there in front of you. But I
- 46:32Speaker 3: do need I do need Joe Brady to make sure
- 46:34Speaker 3: that he's got the pulse on the team. And I
- 46:37Speaker 3: and I just that's the only thing that I worry about.
- 46:39Speaker 3: He's a first time head coach. And sometimes I'm worried
- 46:42Speaker 3: that he's trying to prove a point as opposed to
- 46:45Speaker 3: to just coaching his team to win.
- 46:46Speaker 1: And I know that he is. I know.
- 46:48Speaker 2: Yes.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.
- 46:50Speaker 2: You know, and but he's. with the growing pains where
- 46:53Speaker 2: it's inevitable, it's the NFL. Nobody just, just falls out
- 46:56Speaker 2: of their bed and is good at it. You know,
- 46:57Speaker 2: we knew it. So it's going to take growing pains.
- 46:59Speaker 2: We're going to see this. It's how quick can he
- 47:01Speaker 2: learn from these growing pains? And that's what, that's going
- 47:04Speaker 2: to be the difference of being a champion. How quick
- 47:06Speaker 2: can you learn from these growing pains?
- 47:07Speaker 1: So you saw it.
- 47:09Speaker 2: I mean, they were pretty blatantly obvious last week and
- 47:12Speaker 2: even the week before a little bit. So it's like, okay,
- 47:15Speaker 2: let's learn, move forward.
- 47:17Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's learn and move forward. I like it.
- 47:19Speaker 3: Now DT, Listen, the Nickel City Crew tailgate report is
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- 47:25Speaker 3: City Vintage for all of your Buffalo Bills and Buffalo Sabres,
- 47:29Speaker 3: nostalgia gear, hats, shirts, trinkets, all that.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Type of stuff. I just saw Nick pre-show.
- 47:34Speaker 2: Yeah, Nick in the house.
- 47:34Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Nick and shout out to our
- 47:37Speaker 3: boy Kai as well. Listen, Queen City Vintage, they're right
- 47:39Speaker 3: there on Elmwood across from 40 Thieves. Check them out.
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- 47:50Speaker 3: And we're happy to be sponsored with them again this year.
- 47:54Speaker 3: I really do appreciate the partnership. It's been something that
- 47:57Speaker 3: I really do cherish. So I've got one more house
- 48:01Speaker 3: cleaning item. And that is contest winner. Contest winner is
- 48:09Speaker 3: Britt Thomas, number nine on Instagram. So congratulations to Brittany
- 48:14Speaker 3: for winning that Betty Boop shirt. I think we had
- 48:17Speaker 3: the Jill's Betty Boop shirt last year for the ladies
- 48:20Speaker 3: as well.
- 48:21Speaker 1: Yep, it's a classic.
- 48:22Speaker 3: So congratulations to her. We'll get that out to you
- 48:25Speaker 3: as quickly as possible. Zach, you owe us a picture,
- 48:28Speaker 3: by the way. I don't know if you know how
- 48:29Speaker 3: this works. I know you're watching, Zach. You owe us
- 48:32Speaker 3: a picture in the Willis with the hat on so
- 48:34Speaker 3: we can put it on IG and put it on Facebook.
- 48:37Speaker 1: So you do owe us, Zach.
- 48:39Speaker 3: I've been seeing you there in the comments, so if
- 48:40Speaker 3: you're still here or if you listen back to it,
- 48:42Speaker 3: you owe us a picture. Now, you can't win the
- 48:45Speaker 3: contest and then just And then just run off. You
- 48:47Speaker 3: got to help us out and show us the merch.
- 48:49Speaker 3: So we're really appreciative, again, of Queen City Vintage and
- 48:52Speaker 3: their partnership. DT, I'll let you go last because, as always,
- 48:57Speaker 3: you had way more excitement than me. But listen, the
- 49:01Speaker 3: house was jumping here at the Crippin House on Sunday.
- 49:03Speaker 3: I told you, Ivy, last weekend was my weekend with
- 49:06Speaker 3: her in respect to that. So I had her for
- 49:08Speaker 3: the full long weekend from Wednesday all the way through Monday.
- 49:12Speaker 1: And DT, we had a great time. We had pizza.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Because I just wanted something that I knew she'd eat
- 49:17Speaker 3: and I wasn't trying to get elaborate or anything like that.
- 49:20Speaker 3: Just keep it nice and simple. So we have pizza
- 49:22Speaker 3: and fries. And she had a great time. I put
- 49:25Speaker 3: her down for an early nap. I told you I
- 49:26Speaker 3: was going to try to do that so that way
- 49:28Speaker 3: she could be up by one. It worked out perfectly.
- 49:31Speaker 1: She was up.
- 49:31Speaker 3: I woke her up right before kickoff. And it was great, man.
- 49:34Speaker 3: I've got to get a picture out there somehow to
- 49:36Speaker 3: you guys. We had a We had a blast. I
- 49:39Speaker 3: think there's a video of her doing the shout song,
- 49:41Speaker 3: so I have to post that.
- 49:43Speaker 1: She had a blast. I was cussing at the TV
- 49:46Speaker 1: a lot.
- 49:46Speaker 3: She didn't repeat me cussing, so that's a win for
- 49:48Speaker 3: Bill's mom here right there. That's a win for Nickel
- 49:50Speaker 3: City crew. She wasn't repeating me on that, but if
- 49:53Speaker 3: I'm clapping, she's clapping. I'm standing up yelling at the TV.
- 49:56Speaker 3: She's yelling whatever she can decipher. She had a great time. Obviously,
- 50:00Speaker 3: the loss sucks, but she doesn't realize that at two
- 50:03Speaker 3: years old. She'll be two next week, DT, and she
- 50:06Speaker 3: had She was baptized yesterday. Yes, she was born on
- 50:08Speaker 3: a Bills game. Last year was, you know, slow motion.
- 50:11Speaker 1: She's one.
- 50:12Speaker 3: She's a little baby. Now she's moving around. Now she's,
- 50:15Speaker 3: you know, about to be two. She's able to partake.
- 50:18Speaker 3: She had a great time. I had all of my
- 50:19Speaker 3: kings here and my little princess, and we did. We
- 50:22Speaker 3: had a good time. She was in and out of
- 50:23Speaker 3: the house. Quincy's little dog, his mom has a dog,
- 50:26Speaker 3: so she's infatuated with the dog. So he was in
- 50:28Speaker 3: and out of the house, so she was too. But
- 50:30Speaker 3: she was paying attention. We had a great time. She
- 50:33Speaker 3: enjoyed the game, and I love it, man. Making memories
- 50:37Speaker 3: with my kids, it's the best thing on Bill's game day.
- 50:40Speaker 1: It's the best.
- 50:41Speaker 2: That's great, man. The Crippin' Crew, baby. That's awesome. It
- 50:46Speaker 2: was great. Ivy's going to be just like the boys
- 50:49Speaker 2: are and getting in. Wow, yeah. I know. It gets
- 50:54Speaker 2: rowdy in there. It gets rowdy in there. Yeah.
- 50:56Speaker 1: I can't help it.
- 50:57Speaker 2: I know. You order out or you make the pizza?
- 51:00Speaker 1: No, no, no. Order it out. Just make sure it
- 51:02Speaker 1: was simple. Picked it up.
- 51:03Speaker 3: And then when I got back, I just woke her
- 51:05Speaker 3: up from her nap. It was like literally the timing
- 51:07Speaker 3: was perfect. So she was able to catch the whole
- 51:09Speaker 3: game and still had plenty of energy.
- 51:11Speaker 1: So it was cool. Yeah.
- 51:12Speaker 2: Well, too bad, you know, the yell prevailed. But it
- 51:16Speaker 2: is what it is. Glad you guys had a good time. Yes.
- 51:20Speaker 3: DT, tell us about your weekend. I heard your weekend
- 51:22Speaker 3: was entertaining, to say the least.
- 51:25Speaker 2: Yep. So we were wheels up. You know, DT, the
- 51:29Speaker 2: DT wedding tour. We'll call it Nickel City Crew. We're
- 51:32Speaker 2: out and about. every corner of the world, enjoying love,
- 51:36Speaker 2: love around the world and DTs in attendance for all
- 51:40Speaker 2: your weddings. Book me, call my agent. I'll give you
- 51:45Speaker 2: the full package. So we, uh, we go down a
- 51:49Speaker 2: great wedding, a long time, lifelong friend of Ashlyn and
- 51:53Speaker 2: she married Chris down in Manhattan. So me, me and
- 51:58Speaker 2: the squad went down, uh, went down in the heat
- 52:01Speaker 2: of it right in Soho, Tribeca, you know, lower Manhattan,
- 52:04Speaker 2: got into it last weekend. Beautiful top-notch weekend. Shout out
- 52:09Speaker 2: Ashton and Chris. Couldn't be a better wedding weekend from
- 52:12Speaker 2: top to bottom. The details, the beauty, the decor, and
- 52:16Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not, you know, I say I'm a
- 52:18Speaker 2: city boy now living in Buffalo, but that's not even
- 52:21Speaker 2: close to what that's about. So, did it all got
- 52:26Speaker 2: the experience saw a beautiful wedding got on the canal
- 52:29Speaker 2: street with the fake fake bags uh shout out to
- 52:31Speaker 2: my mom she should never go to canal street that
- 52:34Speaker 2: that might be the end of uh there that's that's
- 52:38Speaker 2: uh wheeling and dealing for some louis vuitton bags um
- 52:42Speaker 2: and all that fun so great weekend good time sunday
- 52:46Speaker 2: morning though comes real quick rob you know we got
- 52:49Speaker 2: game day We got kids to get back to. The
- 52:53Speaker 2: squad was ready to rear, and I was part of it.
- 52:55Speaker 2: I said, yep, I'm ready too. Let's get north. We
- 52:57Speaker 2: got game day. So got in the van, packed it
- 53:00Speaker 2: up about 6, 630. That's hard. We're getting old, Rob.
- 53:06Speaker 2: We're getting old, Nickel City crew. That's a tough ride.
- 53:09Speaker 2: Tough ride. Shout out my girl Miranda. Definitely my best
- 53:13Speaker 2: friend just rolling us back, confident, cool, collected, ripping the van,
- 53:17Speaker 2: got us north. Um, yeah, we're, it was hurting, hurting
- 53:21Speaker 2: all the way into one o'clock at the iPad out
- 53:24Speaker 2: on the car. We're going through some state park in
- 53:27Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and got the iPad rolling and, uh, Ross Tucker.
- 53:31Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm about Ross Tucker, the commentator.
- 53:34Speaker 2: He's just a little, yeah, I wasn't, I wasn't feeling ahead,
- 53:37Speaker 2: headed on the Bluetooth of the band, listening to the game,
- 53:39Speaker 2: you know, um, and got back unloaded about, uh, you know,
- 53:44Speaker 2: our normal, uh, think we were just about halftime on
- 53:48Speaker 2: the unload and then i slid into uh cheney road
- 53:51Speaker 2: where i've been you know having my game days kyan
- 53:53Speaker 2: page parents shout out jeff and ann cheney road to
- 53:56Speaker 2: a great anniversary to our shout out kyan page one
- 54:00Speaker 2: year anniversary i can't believe it's already been a year
- 54:03Speaker 2: um we were you know in it last year and
- 54:06Speaker 2: doing all uh doing all the content and nickel city
- 54:09Speaker 2: crew they're great uh followers of ours. And we got
- 54:12Speaker 2: a big trip coming up to Minnesota where Bill's Minnesota,
- 54:15Speaker 2: where their Vikings were bills and happy anniversary kind of page.
- 54:18Speaker 2: And it was a great, great end to a great
- 54:23Speaker 2: end love to the beginning of love to a love weekend,
- 54:26Speaker 2: other than the bills loss, you know, which was the only,
- 54:29Speaker 2: only down spot and the ride six hour ride home
- 54:32Speaker 2: with me fighting for my life. But that's life in
- 54:36Speaker 2: the big leagues.
- 54:37Speaker 1: I love it.
- 54:39Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, man.
- 54:40Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you're the man.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Well, we got all the doubts live on the show here.
- 54:45Speaker 2: What you got? Shout out Britt Thomas. Good win on
- 54:49Speaker 2: the Jill shirt. We'll get that shipped out this week's giveaway.
- 54:52Speaker 2: We'll do live tonight. We'll show the people. We'll get
- 54:55Speaker 2: it up on our content. This one's special. This one's
- 54:59Speaker 2: a piece of Bill's lore that is controversial but loving
- 55:07Speaker 2: but hateful. It is.
- 55:11Speaker 1: Ooh.
- 55:11Speaker 2: Norwood.
- 55:13Speaker 1: Hey, it's not that controversial. I mean, hey.
- 55:16Speaker 2: Signed Beckett. Signed Beckett. This is the real deal, numbered
- 55:21Speaker 2: and all. We got a nice little bag carrying case
- 55:24Speaker 2: to put it in. Norwood. Now, people tell me the
- 55:27Speaker 2: Norwood jerseys, they sometimes print them with the name off
- 55:30Speaker 2: to the right, and I just think that's pretty fucked up, right?
- 55:33Speaker 2: You don't want to be putting that up. So this
- 55:36Speaker 2: is the center, Norwood, the closest we've ever been to
- 55:40Speaker 2: the ring.
- 55:40Speaker 1: Yep.
- 55:41Speaker 2: The close signed on it Beckett nice little jersey there that's.
- 55:45Speaker 3: The real one too you look at you could sell
- 55:46Speaker 3: you could tell by the sleeves that's the real one
- 55:48Speaker 3: too good look at that all right listen I I
- 55:52Speaker 3: would love to have it just as for a piece
- 55:53Speaker 3: of um nostalgia uh in history I I can't I'm
- 55:56Speaker 3: not eligible to win so get on there I uh
- 55:59Speaker 3: take a picture of it for me DT sometime and
- 56:01Speaker 3: I'll get it up there tomorrow um or Saturday and
- 56:04Speaker 3: yeah I'll I'll put up the rules again and let's
- 56:06Speaker 3: let's go let's go round three I'm down with that.
- 56:09Speaker 1: Very nice. Thank you again to queen city vintage for, um, again,
- 56:12Speaker 1: sponsoring us this year. That's a, that's a nice one DT.
- 56:15Speaker 1: Cause that, that, that one, that's the one that you.
- 56:17Speaker 3: Could tell your kids the stories about and all that
- 56:19Speaker 3: other stuff. And, and who's that guy and stuff like that.
- 56:22Speaker 1: And listen, I will, I will contest.
- 56:25Speaker 3: I get chills every single time when I watch four
- 56:28Speaker 3: balls of Buffalo, the day of the parade. And when
- 56:32Speaker 3: they're calling for Scott Norwood to come out, I, I
- 56:35Speaker 3: watched that and I'll.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Get teary eyed.
- 56:37Speaker 3: Or chills or both every single time, because what that did,
- 56:40Speaker 3: what it represented to me was the people of Buffalo,
- 56:43Speaker 3: the Buffalo, the bills, mafia, the fans, the city of
- 56:46Speaker 3: Buffalo and how they embrace that, that man after the
- 56:48Speaker 3: worst moment in his professional life, um, maybe worst moment
- 56:52Speaker 3: in his life. I don't know him personally, but that was, that's,
- 56:55Speaker 3: you can't get much lower than that. I'm feeling like
- 56:57Speaker 3: you lost your team, the game. I know Josh lost
- 56:59Speaker 3: the team, the game on Sunday, but it does, it
- 57:01Speaker 3: pales in comparison to the super bowl.
- 57:03Speaker 1: So, um, That's a nice piece right there, DT. I
- 57:06Speaker 1: like that. But nothing better.
- 57:08Speaker 3: Every time I see that on Four Falls of Buffalo
- 57:09Speaker 3: when they're calling for him, I get actual chills.
- 57:13Speaker 1: I get chills. Yeah.
- 57:15Speaker 2: It's the most, yeah.
- 57:18Speaker 1: That was the best I've ever seen Buffalo, man. That's
- 57:21Speaker 1: when the community really stood up right there. That was
- 57:23Speaker 1: the best I've seen.
- 57:23Speaker 2: And they would. And that's the beauty of it. And
- 57:26Speaker 2: that's why we are the fanatics. And that's what the
- 57:28Speaker 2: Bills Mafia is a thing. And that's why Nickel City
- 57:31Speaker 2: Crew is a thing. It's because of that. It's because
- 57:33Speaker 2: of that passion. So, but we're not going to be
- 57:36Speaker 2: remembered for being the losers anymore, right? We're turning the page.
- 57:39Speaker 2: We're being winners and we'll have our own memories in
- 57:42Speaker 2: that same square this February, you and I, so we're passing,
- 57:47Speaker 2: you know, the Norwood torch to the, to the ring
- 57:51Speaker 2: this year. Then we're going to have our own parade.
- 57:53Speaker 1: I am down.
- 57:53Speaker 3: I will be there with bells on literally with bells
- 57:56Speaker 3: on if we can get it done. So listen, We
- 57:58Speaker 3: appreciate you out there tonight checking us out. Listen, all
- 58:00Speaker 3: the platforms, IG, we see you out there, IG. We
- 58:02Speaker 3: see you out there, YouTube, Twitter. I see my Twitter
- 58:06Speaker 3: crew out there. Listen, we appreciate all of you guys.
- 58:08Speaker 3: And again, thank you for letting me get that off
- 58:11Speaker 3: my chest, DT. I know that you're not on Twitter
- 58:13Speaker 3: like I am. I love Twitter now. It was funny
- 58:15Speaker 3: because I never.
- 58:15Speaker 1: Liked it before.
- 58:17Speaker 3: And then when I got the podcast, I knew that
- 58:20Speaker 3: I had to. At the behest of Justice General and J.
- 58:23Speaker 3: Spence the King, they were like, you have to be
- 58:24Speaker 3: on there. You got to engage with your fans. Well,
- 58:27Speaker 3: I don't know if they're fans or not, but I
- 58:28Speaker 3: know that I was called not a fan because I
- 58:30Speaker 3: criticized 17, and I will never, ever, ever not tell
- 58:35Speaker 3: the truth. I got to keep it funky. I have
- 58:37Speaker 3: to keep it funky. That game was there to win.
- 58:39Speaker 3: We didn't win it. And there's a lot of blame
- 58:41Speaker 3: to go around. There was a lot of blame, and
- 58:43Speaker 3: we talked about it tonight. A lot of blame to
- 58:44Speaker 3: go around on Sunday.
- 58:46Speaker 2: An unacceptable loss with a lot of things at stake.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Divisional game, you know, any loss is tough in the NFL,
- 58:53Speaker 2: but divisional losses are even worse. And, you know, that's
- 58:56Speaker 2: something that sucks because it's the exact same thing that
- 59:00Speaker 2: happened last year. So let's not repeat it and let's
- 59:03Speaker 2: rewrite that ship and let's get back on track and
- 59:05Speaker 2: have the get right game and whatever, blah, blah, blah,
- 59:09Speaker 2: put the ball down. Talk about slogans. I love it.
- 59:14Speaker 3: Listen out there. Enjoy your weekend. Bill's again Monday night.
- 59:18Speaker 3: So listen, you get a chance to chill out this weekend.
- 59:20Speaker 3: Some good college football games on. I know pumpkin patches
- 59:22Speaker 3: are the grades right now and all that stuff. Apple cider,
- 59:25Speaker 3: all that other stuff. Listen, enjoy your Saturday. Enjoy your Sunday.
- 59:28Speaker 3: This might be the weekend that you have to go out, fellas.
- 59:31Speaker 3: The wife might be able to just hook you in.
- 59:33Speaker 3: You don't have the excuse on Sunday. So do whatever
- 59:35Speaker 3: you got to do and get through the weekend and
- 59:38Speaker 3: enjoy it for sure. And yeah, Monday, we'll be ready. 8.30,
- 59:42Speaker 3: I think it is, ESPN. We'll be ready for that.
- 59:45Speaker 3: And I can't wait to see what the Bills can
- 59:46Speaker 3: bounce back. DT, I had a great time tonight. I
- 59:49Speaker 3: appreciate you, sir. Out there, spread love, not hate. Enough
- 59:52Speaker 3: hate going around in this world. Spread love, not hate.
- 59:54Speaker 3: These were my Bills thought. Said out loud, here we go,
- 59:57Speaker 3: Bills DT.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Go Bills. 4-1. We're not in the drought anymore.
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: 4-1.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: I love it. Go Bills.