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D4VD Jail VIP, 1-Word Post After Celeste's Murder: “Decay” · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Bombshell Tonight D four VD.
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  Speaker 1: David Anthony Brooke has somehow managed to become a jail vip,
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  Speaker 1: getting hot meals including turkey, cranberry sauce, dressing, dinner rolls.
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  Speaker 1: What this after we discover his bizarre one word post
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  Speaker 1: following Celeste murder. That one word decay. Good evening. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen a lot of morbid pictures inside the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Gruesome court images reveal the body of teen girls Celeste
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  Speaker 1: rev I thought that.
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  Speaker 3: Other people definitely known about this and how the secret.
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  Speaker 3: He did not ask what happened because he did not
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  Speaker 3: want to know.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, coal question, Oh what are you up to
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  Speaker 1: call me? My work clothes? Bro youdis got the times?
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  Speaker 1: I clean up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You think Kyle's gonna get all that out? I hope's up?
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  Speaker 4: What's your name? David? How are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 1: It was raining?
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  Speaker 4: I I got I had a cold and kind of sick.
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  Speaker 4: What song you put on when you're in bed and
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  Speaker 4: feeling sick?
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  Speaker 1: Romantic homicide?
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  Speaker 4: How's that one going?
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared. It feels like kudn't okay.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Randy Song appreciates you, Bro.
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  Speaker 1: That from our friend Nicholas and nuven at TikTok. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just see that one more time?
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  Speaker 5: Is that actually?
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  Speaker 1: D four VD David Anthony Burke in the grocery wearing
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  Speaker 1: a seemingly bloody shirt talking about romantic homicide. Because I
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  Speaker 1: want to say that one more time?
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 1: Cool question?
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  Speaker 4: Oh what are you up to call me?
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  Speaker 1: My work clothes?
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  Speaker 6: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: You dois got the times? I cleap up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: You think Kyle's gonna get all that out?
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  Speaker 1: I hop's up?
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  Speaker 4: What's your name?
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  Speaker 5: David?
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  Speaker 4: How are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 1: It was raining, so I got I think I had
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  Speaker 1: a cold kind of sick.
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  Speaker 4: What song you put on when you're in bed and
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  Speaker 4: feeling sick?
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  Speaker 1: Romantic homicide?
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  Speaker 4: How does that one going?
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared? It feels like cud okaye.
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  Speaker 5: Little Randy Song appreciates you.
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  Speaker 1: Grow toll you David Anthony Burke fans, I really think
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  Speaker 1: even I could do a better job. And that's from
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas nuvon on TikTok and while D FOURVD sets up
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  Speaker 1: a video to be released of him, singing in a
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  Speaker 1: bloody shirt in the grocery aisle. Here's the reality of
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Celeste.
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  Speaker 7: First item was a bloodstain that was found in the tesla.
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  Speaker 7: It did confirm that it was Celes's DNA, and she said,
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  Speaker 7: the statistic is one septillion times most likely Celestis. That
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  Speaker 7: is a one followed by twenty four zeros. Remember there's
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  Speaker 7: like nine billion people in the whole world, So the
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  Speaker 7: fact that this number the status so precise shows that
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  Speaker 7: this is Celesti's DNA that was found in the tesla.
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  Speaker 7: Another stain that was collected in the lower trunk was
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  Speaker 7: also consistent with Celesi's DNA. Those are the two swabs
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  Speaker 7: that were taken from the tesla that confirmed that her
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  Speaker 7: DNA wasn't there. We've got a red stain that was
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  Speaker 7: recovered from the rowing machine. That one also showed that
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  Speaker 7: it was Celict's DNA with a subtilian chance. That's a
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  Speaker 7: crazy number. We also had a blood stain on the
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  Speaker 7: tesla charger in the garage, also the same thing. It
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  Speaker 7: was a Subtilian chance, but it was Celesi's the green tarp,
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  Speaker 7: same thing, same blood stain, and same statistic. Inside the
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  Speaker 7: bag again, I believe this is the same bag that
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  Speaker 7: had these handwipes. Our eighth item is the handwipes which
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  Speaker 7: did match with Celesis it was a partial profile. It
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  Speaker 7: looks like it's a three trillion chance that it is less.
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  Speaker 7: Is a three followed by twelve zeros. Now, whenever Dude's
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  Speaker 7: team got up and tried to ask Samantha about the
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  Speaker 7: they pretty much wanted her to confirm that DNA can
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  Speaker 7: be transferred any other way.
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  Speaker 1: That is Sloan on TikTok before I go to and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of our All Star panel straight out to
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  Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, death investigator over ten thousand death scenes,
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  Speaker 1: deaths of all nature, suicide, natural causes unexplained, and of
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  Speaker 1: course homicide. I appreciate what Sloane was just saying. Everything
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  Speaker 1: he said was accurate. Did a D four BD actually
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  Speaker 1: think that he could grab a wet wipe and clean
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  Speaker 1: it all up? Did you hear where the blood is
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  Speaker 1: on the rowing machine on that blow up kittie pool
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  Speaker 1: he had to put her body in. According to reports,
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  Speaker 1: this is all just a legend. So the blood wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: get on his floor, but on his floor and his
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  Speaker 1: Tesla in the front of his Taesla, in the back
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  Speaker 1: of his tesla, in the front the front trunk of
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  Speaker 1: his tasla. Oh I forgot throwing about eleven air frushures
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  Speaker 1: on her dead, disarticulated body. Really, what happened to Celeste?
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  Speaker 4: Joe Scott, Nancy, You and I have known one another
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  Speaker 4: for a long long time. In that period of time,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we've written in a car together. I know that
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  Speaker 4: we have have ever asked you to get into the
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  Speaker 4: trunk of the.
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  Speaker 1: Cart Jacksonville State University.
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  Speaker 4: For peace's sake, we did. And I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: ask you know why, why exactly would her DNA be
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  Speaker 4: inside of that trunk. Well, we have an answer to that.
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  Speaker 4: That's because it appears as though that's where her remains
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  Speaker 4: were deposited. Deposited, I remind everyone, and we need to
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  Speaker 4: keep coming back to this because this is about Celeste
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  Speaker 4: deposited after he had rendered her down with sharp instruments
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  Speaker 4: and put her into multiple conveyances. And one of these conveyances,
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  Speaker 4: this bag that they're taught talking about, has got her
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  Speaker 4: DNA on it, right, And then you go back to
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  Speaker 4: this wipe All right, Yeah, I think that it's a
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  Speaker 4: fool's erran to think that you can get rid of
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  Speaker 4: DNA if you've got some kind of sanitary wipe that's
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  Speaker 4: out there, you're going to try to you know, clean
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  Speaker 4: your hands with this sort of thing, and you're not
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  Speaker 4: going to transfer your DNA to that. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: mean councils making a point, they say, well, it can
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  Speaker 4: be transferred any number of ways. Yeah, but it's transferred
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  Speaker 4: in the sense that this is adjunct to a body
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  Speaker 4: that has literally been rendered down and is being stored
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  Speaker 4: in the vehicle in which is owned by the accused.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Yeah, really, did you hear the stats on
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  Speaker 1: that DNA?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? As the numbers are absolutely mind blowing. This drives
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  Speaker 4: defense attorneys are crazy at this point in time because
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  Speaker 4: these these number are so astronomical. You heard this young
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  Speaker 4: man just talking about a second ago Septilian. Are you
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  Speaker 4: kidding me? You know, how do you defeat that?
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  Speaker 8: You know?
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  Speaker 4: And the only way that can really attack something like
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  Speaker 4: this Nancy is procedurally, How was it collected these sorts
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  Speaker 4: of things? Did the process break down? But you cannot
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  Speaker 4: get past these numbers because they're absolutely astronomical.
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  Speaker 1: Place place, wait, please look at your monitor, just go back. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he is wearing a T shirt that says I love
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  Speaker 1: boobs and people are rubbing oil on his body.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What what's the nature behind what they're doing?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: And I think I recognized that young lady that was
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  Speaker 4: there from previous videos relative to being in a bathroom.
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  Speaker 4: Remember they're talking in there, and I find this interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So let's let's think about this just for a second. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: he's surrounded, as we can see by a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people in this environment. These people are actually putting their
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  Speaker 4: hands on him all these other surfaces. It would not
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  Speaker 4: surprise me in the least bit if you do have
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  Speaker 4: transfer from other people in that house that were in
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  Speaker 4: under that roof, whether or not they were living there
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  Speaker 4: or not. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Scott, Yeah, please don't take Eric Pattis down that road.
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  Speaker 1: Now you've carried him about halfway, you've carried him on
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  Speaker 1: your back. That there's going to be unknown DNA. Of
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  Speaker 1: course there is, just like in coburger, have fun with
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  Speaker 1: that to make that your defense area. But you're right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: let me formally introduce at Morgan Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor
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  Speaker 1: Forensics at Jacksonville State university that has a world class
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  Speaker 1: criminal procedure program. In fact, I've called on him multiple
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  Speaker 1: times out of all the people I could find to
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  Speaker 1: help me create reenactments of murders, because every move is important.
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  Speaker 1: Every move the murder, the disarticulation of the body, the
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  Speaker 1: rendering of the body, the hiding the body, the decomposure,
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  Speaker 1: every single move counts. Professor Forensics, Shacksonville State University. He's
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  Speaker 1: the author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. He's
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  Speaker 1: a star of a hit podcast, Body Bags with Joseph
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  Speaker 1: Scott Morgan, and it goes on and on and on,
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  Speaker 1: but he's giving you, well, not really. It was more
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  Speaker 1: of a reader's digest ah thumbnail about what happened to Celeste,
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  Speaker 1: because what happened to her is so upsetting that very
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  Speaker 1: often even we gloss over it here so it won't
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  Speaker 1: be so disturbing. I don't know how a jury is
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  Speaker 1: going to ingest all of this information. But with the
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  Speaker 1: backdrop of D four VD in the grocery aisle singing
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  Speaker 1: his song romantic homicide, how apropos in this case romantic homicide,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got Joe Scott explaining what happened to this
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  Speaker 1: little girl Celeste, that he began courting when he was
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  Speaker 1: eleven years old, still wearing Hello Kitty outfits. We have
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  Speaker 1: d forv D. David Anthony Burke is a v IP
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  Speaker 1: behind bars, a very important person. Okay, hold on, he's
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  Speaker 1: got room service. He doesn't have to eat with general population.
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  Speaker 1: They bring him his meals. And we've learned that the
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  Speaker 1: LA Food Services has implemented a new hot meal program
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  Speaker 1: at men Central, carefully designed to meet recommended daily standards
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  Speaker 1: for calories, protein, carbohydrates, nutrients, with a team of dietitians
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  Speaker 1: and advisors, called the most significant improvement in inmate feeding
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  Speaker 1: in decades across the country. Wow. Also, here's a menu,
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  Speaker 1: chicken royale, pasta, cooked spinach, salad, one day roasted turkey,
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  Speaker 1: candied yams, sweet potatoes, green beans, cranberry salt, salad dressing,
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  Speaker 1: general pumpkin muffin my rear end. Why is he getting
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  Speaker 1: a pumpkin muffin and chocolate milk? This guy is getting
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  Speaker 1: totally babied and coddled. He gets a private escort to
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  Speaker 1: the shower, so there's no pickup the soap please in
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  Speaker 1: the shower. None of that's going on. He's kept away
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  Speaker 1: from GP because he might be bullied while Celeste is dead. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: help me out, Dave Matc. Why is he a VP
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  Speaker 1: behind bars?
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  Speaker 9: It comes down to the partial thing that he was
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  Speaker 9: achieving Nancy, as well as that you know, his the
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  Speaker 9: accusations against D four VD are beyond the pale, and
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  Speaker 9: there are certain aspects of criminal behavior in jail where
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  Speaker 9: somebody who targeted or groomed young people and we're talking
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  Speaker 9: eleven years old here, they are looked on worse than
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  Speaker 9: regular inmates. So he is being kept away from general
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  Speaker 9: population as much to protect himself, you know, from other inmates.
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  Speaker 8: As well as the notoriety. Think about it.
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  Speaker 9: Somebody taking him out because he is a so called
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  Speaker 9: celebrity might bring something. But that you're right when you
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  Speaker 9: described him being escorted wherever he goes. He does have
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  Speaker 9: a self to himself, you know, he doesn't have to.
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  Speaker 8: Communicate with anybody.
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  Speaker 9: He just gets to be by himself all day long,
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  Speaker 9: being waited.
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  Speaker 1: On crime stories with Nancy Grace. I think what you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to say, Dave mac is he's not having to
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  Speaker 1: have an over amorous roommate. He has a private room,
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  Speaker 1: room service, the works. You know, even so straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Annie Alice joining us. She's a star of a
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  Speaker 1: true crime podcast. Seriously, Annie, thank you for being with
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  Speaker 1: us tonight. Annie, could you describe his mansion? This is
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  Speaker 1: a far cry from that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very different than his mansion in the
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Hills. In his house, it was a three story house.
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  Speaker 2: He had a beautiful backyard with a pool, a big
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  Speaker 2: grand piano, a gym where he could work out anytime
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  Speaker 2: he wanted, multiple bedrooms. In the kitchen. It was a
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  Speaker 2: massive with a huge island of tons of windows, lots
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  Speaker 2: of light, double door, refrigerator. Every luxury that you could
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  Speaker 2: possibly want he had at that house. So, now being
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  Speaker 2: stripped down into this jail cell, while you would think
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  Speaker 2: that that's great, he still is, to your point, getting
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  Speaker 2: certain luxuries.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see here, any Elise, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But did he not have a five bed a luxury
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  Speaker 1: mansion that's a yes? No, yes, a five bedroom okay,
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  Speaker 1: with a hot tub yes, and a pool yes, and
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  Speaker 1: a gem, a private gym yes yes. And what is
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  Speaker 1: a luxury kitchen? And is that near his grand piano?
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  Speaker 1: But what is a luxury kitchen?
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  Speaker 2: It is near the grand piano, it's right adjacent to it.
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  Speaker 2: And luxury kitchen, think very every spacious can hold tens
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  Speaker 2: of people, big kitchen, island, every single appliance you could
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  Speaker 2: dream of, lots of natural light, just an area to
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  Speaker 2: congregate with all your friends and have everything at your
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  Speaker 2: disposal to entertain.
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  Speaker 1: Boo hoo. Eric Fattus defense attorney. He's gone from his
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  Speaker 1: mansion in Hollywood Hills to the men Ci but he's
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  Speaker 1: still getting the IP treatment. Fattest is a founder of
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  Speaker 1: the law offices of Eric Fattus, former felony prosecutor, current
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  Speaker 1: criminal defense and civil attorney at Eric Fattus Law dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Why is he getting kid glove treatment?
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  Speaker 4: Nancy?
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  Speaker 10: Heaven forbid? They're feeding this man while he's in custodys.
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  Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, he's getting spinach and potatoes. God forbid.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I think what we're talking about here, as
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  Speaker 10: a person who has presumed innocent under the Constitution, for
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  Speaker 10: whom there are significant safety concerns, right or wrong, how
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  Speaker 10: is this stigma that is going to attach him just
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  Speaker 10: based on the nature of the charges. So the fact
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  Speaker 10: that facility is protecting him and feeding him doesn't seem
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  Speaker 10: so beyond the pale to me.
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  Speaker 1: The Constitution as written by our founding fathers, as interpreted
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  Speaker 1: over the years in court after court after court, does
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  Speaker 1: provide the six Amendment rights. You're right, but do you
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  Speaker 1: even know what chicken royale is? Don't try to google it?
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  Speaker 5: Do you know.
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  Speaker 10: That might have been before my time? Nancy, I'm not
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  Speaker 10: super familiar with that disc Well.
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  Speaker 1: They're serving it right now to D four VD, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about before your time.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you're not a chef, but let me enlighten you.
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  Speaker 1: Classic chicken royale is a rich, comforting baked dish stuffed
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  Speaker 1: chicken breasts, a popular four ingredient, creamy casts roll aversion
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  Speaker 1: stuff with creamy mushroom sauce, breadcrumbs, melted butter, chopped onion,
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  Speaker 1: parsley spices, paprika. I don't believe the Constitution said anything
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  Speaker 1: about him having chicken royale behind bars, much less turkey
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  Speaker 1: and dressing, candy dams and cranberry sauce. She's dead, she
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  Speaker 1: was disarticulated. Why you know what I'm not talking to
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  Speaker 1: you to see Fisher joining US private investigator Missing Persons
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  Speaker 1: specialists in search and rescue, owner of Search investigations at
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  Speaker 1: Searchinvestigations dot Org. Fisher not the police. Fisher goes out
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  Speaker 1: and puts and takes the patent turner pat the street
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  Speaker 1: and turned the corner and gets video a messes v
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  Speaker 1: D ring cam, door cam you name it, seeing D
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  Speaker 1: four VD, David Anthony Burke's car moved from space to space.
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  Speaker 1: He even saw who was driving. Wouldn't tell anybody in
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  Speaker 1: that car in that tuesla is celesteevius disarticulated body. He
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  Speaker 1: found all that he has been inside D four vd's mansion,
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  Speaker 1: the alleged murder, saying you heard Annie Elise Star of
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  Speaker 1: Sereiallessly podcast describing the grand piano, the five bedrooms, the
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  Speaker 1: hot tub of the pool. What did it look like
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  Speaker 1: when you went in, Steve Fisher, You.
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  Speaker 3: Know, it was kind of bizarre because it was it
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  Speaker 3: kind of looks sparsely lived in. And one thing we
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  Speaker 3: couldn't figure out until because we thought David was in
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  Speaker 3: there alone, as why he wasn't living in the master bedroom.
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  Speaker 4: And it was very like.
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  Speaker 3: The furniture that came with the rental was there, but
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  Speaker 3: it was set up more like a streaming house. They
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  Speaker 3: had electronics, big Streme TVs. Everywhere. They did have the
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  Speaker 3: you know, the gym downstairs. It didn't look super used.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, that's the location where it appears he did
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  Speaker 3: this last the pool and everything, but it was really
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  Speaker 3: walked in. If you walked in and didn't know better,
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  Speaker 3: you would think it was probably a house that was
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  Speaker 3: being moved out of or it was like a rental
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  Speaker 3: waiting to be rented.
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  Speaker 11: The one additional consideration is that mister Burke now is
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  Speaker 11: eligible for death penalty. The death penalty considerations are now
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  Speaker 11: being weighed. Part of that consideration will be any submission
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  Speaker 11: that the defense wants to submit.
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  Speaker 6: To the District Attorney's office. It is something that we
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  Speaker 6: will consider on whether or not we will seek the
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  Speaker 6: death penalty. At this point, the death penalty determination has
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  Speaker 6: not been made.
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  Speaker 12: It seems that the defense attorneys are stopping at nothing
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  Speaker 12: in an attempt to discredit the prosecution's evidence, and the
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  Speaker 12: family was horrified that the defense attorneys brought up evidence
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  Speaker 12: to put the blame on a fourteen year old child.
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  Speaker 5: That from KABC and TMZ speaking of the family, Dave Matt,
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  Speaker 5: what can you tell me about the recent discovery that
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  Speaker 5: little Celeste family signed a waiver allegedly for her to
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  Speaker 5: travel out of the country to London with David Anthony Burke.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't they just hand her over on a silver platter.
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  Speaker 8: Anthy, This has been a really shocking time.
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  Speaker 9: When we find out that, we question, how is it
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  Speaker 9: possible for Celeste reebus at less than fourteen years old?
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  Speaker 9: How is it possible for her to travel overseas to London?
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  Speaker 9: How is it possible for her to get on a plane. Well,
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  Speaker 9: apparently Celestereeva's parents signed legal documentation allowing her to travel
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  Speaker 9: with David Anthony Burke. This is something that we've wondered.
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  Speaker 8: How did it happen?
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  Speaker 9: Remember when her passport was found out there in the
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  Speaker 9: Santa Barbara Woods and here we go.
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  Speaker 8: She actually got approval from her.
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  Speaker 9: Parents, so they knew exactly what was going on and
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  Speaker 9: when it was going on.
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  Speaker 1: Nancy straight out to doctor Cheryl Erant joining us out
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  Speaker 1: of this jurisdiction, California licensed Clinical Forensics psychologist specializing in
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  Speaker 1: Trauma Recovery PTSD E M d R. She's at ask
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  Speaker 1: doctor Cheryl dot com. Doctor Cheryl, thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us tonight. It just wasn't consent. It was a
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  Speaker 1: notarized forum that they signed in front of a notary,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the seal to allow their daughter, unchaperoned,
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  Speaker 1: to go to London with D four VD, that guy
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  Speaker 1: that dances around in a bloody shirt him.
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  Speaker 13: I cannot imagine how much those parents must regret having
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  Speaker 13: done that. I can't stop thinking about them being in
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  Speaker 13: the courtroom and actually viewing the photos of their daughter's
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  Speaker 13: body after everything that they cannot unsea, and hearing about
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  Speaker 13: how devastated they are. I cannot speak to what they
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  Speaker 13: were thinking at the time that they granted this permission,
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  Speaker 13: but it is incredibly clear that Celeste was in tremendous danger,
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  Speaker 13: and I am sure in retrospect that they are. There
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  Speaker 13: are many many things that these parents must regret.
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  Speaker 1: Regret, regret, denial, denial that they had anything to do
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  Speaker 1: with it, denial to Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor, forensic death investigator, denial.
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  Speaker 1: I am not blaming the parents. I am saying that
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  Speaker 1: they knew about this relationship D four VD. David Anthony
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  Speaker 1: Burke grew up homeschooled in a highly religious family home
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  Speaker 1: where all they could hear was classical music and evangelical music.
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  Speaker 1: Then he suddenly gets fame and he moves unchaperoned to Hollywood,
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  Speaker 1: living with a bunch of other teens his age. Hmm,
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  Speaker 1: what did they think was going to happen? So they
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  Speaker 1: had to do with her murder, But they see all
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  Speaker 1: that money, all that fame. It's like, you go on,
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  Speaker 1: ce last, you just go on with David Anthony Burke.
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  Speaker 1: Go right ahead. And as a matter of fact, here's
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  Speaker 1: a sign and notarized document allowing you to travel internationally
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  Speaker 1: with David Anthony Burke, the guy in the bloody shirt.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, think about this, all of that home training that
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  Speaker 4: he received, everything, okay, But yet somewhere along the way
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  Speaker 4: he it would appear allegedly that he had no compunction whatsoever,
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  Speaker 4: allegedly of rendering down a human being, a child and
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  Speaker 4: placing them in a garbage bag. Just let that sink
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  Speaker 4: in just for a second. If he did it, all right,
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  Speaker 4: that's what the author these are saying. They're saying he
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  Speaker 4: did that. So you know, again, I go back to Celeste.
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  Speaker 4: Her value as a human being is completely diminished, in
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  Speaker 4: my opinion, all the way around, all the way around.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's a major problem here because I think
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  Speaker 4: and the one thing I'm worried about in this case Nancy,
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  Speaker 4: is that she's going to be forgotten. She's going to
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: be forgotten relative to all of the celebrity height and
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: all of this other stuff. We have to keep in
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: mind what happened to her, Nancy. We do know at
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: this point in time that what was released, and that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: a whole nother story relative to the me's office, is
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: we're talking about injuries, and those injuries are in fact
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: two sharp force injuries, one of which appears to be
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: consistent with having gone into the liver. And I've commented
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: on this before. I think that people think that if
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you're a stabbed in the abdomen, you're going to die
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  Speaker 4: really really quick. You didn't you want because it is
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: a long, languishing death. It's not just a matter of
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: the fact that she was rendered down with sharp instruments.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: It's a fact that she had a blade stuck through
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  Speaker 4: her ribs into her liver, which she would have slowly
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: bled out from over a protracted period of time. This
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: is not like a gunshot wound to the head. It's
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a miserable, miserable death.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Gray. Prosecutors give a moment by
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: moment account of Celesie Revos last night, it was a
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: stream of text messages with DFOURVD before her phone goes
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  Speaker 1: forever silent when she gets to his home. Now in
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: these texts, the last one, her final text is girly pop,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Open your door if you're home. Girly pop,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Open your door if you're home. Straight
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  Speaker 1: out to Annie Elise joining a star of sereallessly Annie
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  Speaker 1: Elise her text before she was ordered up like a
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  Speaker 1: Pepperoni pizza that night by D four VD. Her texts
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: were increasingly frustrated and upset.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Why she was frustrated with him because she didn't feel
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that he was committed to her, that he was seeing
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  Speaker 2: other women, and that she was being discarded. And not
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: only in the text messages in the twenty four hours
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: leading up to her murder, but five weeks before that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: she sends him a text message saying, I feel like
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: all we do is have sex. I want more for
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: my life than that. A few months prior to that,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: she expressed regret about the pregnancy termination. And so you
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: see this pattern building with her where she's starting to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: realize this guy doesn't care about me the way that
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  Speaker 2: I thought he did. He's making me compromise a lot
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  Speaker 2: of my values. And then finally, twenty four hours before
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: she's murdered, she sends him a text message threatening to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: end his career, saying I will damage anything, I will
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: ruin you. I will end your career. And then the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: day of the murder, she texts him, I'll give you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: one more chance. And then, as we know, according to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the prosecutors, he ordered her up through the with the uber,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: delivered her to his house, and she died less than
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes later.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: The response to open the gate from Burke is I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: got you gate open, door unlocked and under an hour.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: According to prosecutors, she's did Dave mac what can you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: tell me about a bizarre one word post from David
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Anthony burt akad four med right after Celeste's murder.
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  Speaker 8: One word Nancy Decay.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how they're going to utilize all this
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: when at trial, but there's so much evidence Nancy within
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: these text messages that dfour VD communicated with Celeste and
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: with others that we're talking eight to ten thousand text
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: messages just between dfour VD and Celeste and they talk
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: about everything he goes on. You know, I mentioned this before, Nancy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: He was setting up his cover story, his alibi, while
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: she was still bleeding out in the house. As soon
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: as she got there, police say, Investigators say, as soon
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: as he arrived, he sends a text message not.
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: Here yet, you know.
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: And he continued that throughout the next hour and a half,
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: sending messages to her like she was not there yet.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: It's just beyond anything one can imagine.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The one word very bizarre post right after celeste murder decay.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think I need a shrink to tell me
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: what that means. But to doctor Cheryl Eric joining us
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: out of Beverly Heels, what do you make of it?
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  Speaker 13: Well, you know, Nancy, many artists channel their unacceptable impulses
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: into their art, but there are some who act them out.
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: And this man was charged with acting out the things
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: that he would say. And the thing that strikes me
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: about David Burke is that he keeps telling on himself
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: with these texts, with the title of his song, with
• 30:58
  Speaker 13: the interview and the jokes and the materials of threatening
• 31:03
  Speaker 13: or joking about cutting off this girl's arms, or the
• 31:06
  Speaker 13: word the other word for disarticulated that he said that
• 31:10
  Speaker 13: his phone was in China being taken apart, well, the
• 31:13
  Speaker 13: phone doesn't have limbs. That in shrink world would be
• 31:18
  Speaker 13: considered something called a Freudian slip, where you the word
• 31:22
  Speaker 13: just kind of slips out that you're actually meaning. And
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: I think there, if we look there, there is a
• 31:30
  Speaker 13: cascade of incidents where he keeps kind of telling on
• 31:35
  Speaker 13: himself in all of these different ways and leaving all
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: of these clues, and it's really striking.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Another issue we've discovered, Dave mac isn't it true that?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And this is according to an interview with The Rolling Stone,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and Steve Fisher has talked to the young girl himself
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that he sends anime Let's see It, where a young
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: girl's arms are severed Nancy.
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  Speaker 9: As I mentioned a minute ago, this is a guy
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: who texts and sends out everything like it doesn't matter
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: to him.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: He's not thinking.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: But he sends a joke to well what he says
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: or is of himself and his alter ego, his alter
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: ego anime character e Tommy Okay. And in this fictional
• 32:24
  Speaker 9: alter ego it Tommy Bert jokes about cutting off the
• 32:31
  Speaker 9: arms of this girl who, by the way, in the
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: Rolling stud interview, she's going by the name Jane to
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: protect her own privacy, but he actually is outing himself
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: through his alter ego E Tommy, saying he wants to
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: cut her arms off again.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: What happened with Celeste Nancy to.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Eric fattis, you'll have a field day trying to keep
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: that evidence out, and you just may be able to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: do it, claiming it's irrelevant and prejudicial. Yeah, very well
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: might be.
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: Look, we have had instances in the past of extreme artists,
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: right you think about Cannibal Corpse, insane clown Posse, Marilyn Manson.
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: These folks certainly pushed the envelope. They're provocative, but being
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: that way in the artistic realm is not a crime.
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: And furthermore, it is probably not relevant evidence to this case,
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: the fact that he sent some video or something, some
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: anime video to some other girl at some point in time.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: To just try to use all of these things against
• 33:34
  Speaker 10: it because he's inflammatory, because he's extreme, I think it's
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: going to be character assassination. I think you, judge might
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: not let it in.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: He mentioned I think something about extreme art regarding Marilyn
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Manson as one of your examples. Didn't multiple women publicly
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: accuse him of sex abuse, physical violence, and grooming? Is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: that one of your great examples?
• 33:55
  Speaker 10: Fattus, There were such accusations. I'm not aware of whether
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: those actually since wherever founded or whence they were established
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: in court, but yeah, there have been accusations made.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, Marilyn Manson real named Brian Warner, there are multiple
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: accusations against them. He is not convicted, He has not
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: been charged. No criminal charges have been filed regarding claims
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of violence, sex assault, U there was expired statutes of
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: limitations in some of those cases. But reminder to everyone
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: there is no statute of limitations for murder. If you
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: know or think you know anything regarding the death of
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: this young girl, Celeste or Divas, please dial two one, three, four,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: eight six, six eight nine zero. We remember American hero
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Firefighter Gary James, Adrian Texas FD died in the line
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of duty, leaving behind sons Gar Garry and Thomas. American
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: hero firefighter Gary James. Thank you to our guests, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: especially to you for being with us. Nancy Grace signing
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: off for tonight, but I'll see you tomorrow night, and
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: until then, good night friend,