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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, September 23 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. You're running the
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  Speaker 1: gun broke. He's got Jimmy first down, twenty five touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: When it is Monday, September twenty three. This is Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by Jet
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  Speaker 1: Home Loans. And now that coffing, sniffing, sneezing, aching stuff
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  Speaker 1: he knows so you can rest host j P. Shady
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  Speaker 1: topic djur Indeed, welcome to Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick,
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  Speaker 1: Tony Vasselli and Jacksonville Pete Prisco down in Fort Lauderdale.
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  Speaker 1: We've got some things to discuss today. I'll say this,
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  Speaker 1: as much as I enjoyed doing Monday at Football, which
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, I mean I would say right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, listen, if you love football growing up,
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  Speaker 1: you watch Monday and At football. And I was a
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  Speaker 1: kid to think that I'd be calling the game was
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  Speaker 1: the TV was huge. But I'm much prefer being in
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  Speaker 1: studio for the show I do. It's really just because
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  Speaker 1: of me, right, It's not. Pete has nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with it, right, But I think it's JP and the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I actually can hear the words you're saying
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  Speaker 1: because there's some issues earlier. That okay, funny last week, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: we saw you were in the booth or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: guys would come into the booth and you'd be sitting
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  Speaker 1: there waving a lot of distractions. A lot going on
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  Speaker 1: last week. So it's good to be back here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: We're glad to have you. That's good. How did it
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  Speaker 1: go last week? Terrible football game? How do the broadcast?
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about the football? Oh great? I mean
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  Speaker 1: I work with Kevin Harland is one of the best
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  Speaker 1: in the business, So how could it be great? And
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  Speaker 1: a great person? That's the one thing, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: work with Iron Eagle on Thursday nights and Kevin Harland
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  Speaker 1: on Monday nights. I mean, if there's better, there's better guys.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know so and they're really good. What it is, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: All the guys who worked for CBS, we're all good
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  Speaker 1: guys except for you. Yeah. Dot com World, dot com
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  Speaker 1: World doing different. Listen dot com guy anymore? I'm a
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  Speaker 1: TV talent now, No, you don't have a face. Yes
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  Speaker 1: I do. Yes, you can watch me every Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: Friday and sitting next to Brady Quinn, I look so good, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: You can't imagine. What's what station are you on? Where
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  Speaker 1: it's HQ, it's a it's you don't see the ads
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  Speaker 1: all over the games, twenty four hour Sports Network. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's on a computer though, right, I don't think, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think my Bhulu, Apple TV it's on all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. But it's for the cord cutters. JP, I'm
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  Speaker 1: one of those. Are you a cord cutter? I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: starting I think I'm thinking about going cord cutting because
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  Speaker 1: you can, you can want. Do you have Apple TV? Baselle?
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  Speaker 1: Are you too cheap to get it? So I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: allowed to say what I have because I mean, they're
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  Speaker 1: not advertisers on the show, sponsors got I got three
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  Speaker 1: different subscriptions right now, and I'm looking to cut two
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  Speaker 1: of them. I tell you you could find my Hulu,
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  Speaker 1: Apple all those things. You can find CBS Sports, HQ.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty four hours. And me sitting next to Brady
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  Speaker 1: Quinn makes me look so good looking it's unbelievable. Brady
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  Speaker 1: got a game on Fox yesterday. He did, He did
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  Speaker 1: the Cardinals game. One quick thing. I know we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get bunch of again into Tony. You'll appreciate this. I
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  Speaker 1: had a nice argument with him on the air and
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  Speaker 1: the other day about how he's not in the media. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he answered, did you tell him that he is? Of
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  Speaker 1: course I did. He was getting Oh man, did you
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  Speaker 1: see Ron Rivera walk off? The other day when they
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  Speaker 1: were in and Tony and Brady's going, oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: They kept asking the same question and then answer. I go,
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  Speaker 1: just answer the question. That's all I had to do
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  Speaker 1: was answer the question, and you go, oh you media guys,
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  Speaker 1: I go, I go, Brady, you're the same team I
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  Speaker 1: am now, we played the same team. Yeah, listen, I
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  Speaker 1: gave in last year. It took me twelve years to
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  Speaker 1: give in. But I mean, I'm in the media. It's
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  Speaker 1: part of the world I live now. Yes, it took
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  Speaker 1: you how to admit it, but we got you. It's
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  Speaker 1: that it's disappointing. I feel less of a person for it,
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  Speaker 1: But I am. You know what, We're all one team.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a big iron basel I, there's a big
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  Speaker 1: iron Quinn, and there's a giant I in price God
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  Speaker 1: on this program today. Um, we'll start off, well, we're
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  Speaker 1: all doctors apparently. Now Jale Ramsey's out sick. Today, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into that story where that has gone over the
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  Speaker 1: last week or so, the defense playing well with him
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  Speaker 1: on the field last Thursday, Minshew mania isn't here to stay?
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  Speaker 1: Should we tap the brakes? We'll get into that a
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  Speaker 1: little later in Crossfire, we'll delve into the offensive line play,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get some social questions. We'll go around the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League as well. So all this jailor Ramsey trade
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  Speaker 1: stories started after our show last which it all became
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  Speaker 1: public about fifteen minutes after we went off the air
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  Speaker 1: last week, and it was the storyline leading up to
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  Speaker 1: that Thursday night football game all week long. But it
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  Speaker 1: seemed like the Jaguars defense, it's gonna put it aside,
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  Speaker 1: played great football Thursday night. This thing hasn't gone away though,
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  Speaker 1: it's still out there. The storyline, are they gonna trade anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Are they not? And then today he's out sick, and
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  Speaker 1: then Twitter blows up again. But he's really sick. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of things. One, Jalon is really sick talking to
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  Speaker 1: people it's not jail, and trying to get out of practice. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's not him trying to create more pressure on the organization.
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  Speaker 1: It's he's legitimately sick. Now it's terrible timing, um and you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't love everything that Jalen's done. I said, his antics,
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  Speaker 1: especially once I found out he put his hands on
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  Speaker 1: the head coach. I said, I would have suspended him
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  Speaker 1: after the game. But I'm never gonna take one thing
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  Speaker 1: away from Chilan. He loves playing football and he has
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  Speaker 1: never missed the game because of any injury or any reason.
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  Speaker 1: Um and so I so you you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: don't question that about Jillen. You can question his antics.
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  Speaker 1: You can question the strategy and everything else he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to do. That's fair. Um, But he's really sick, and
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  Speaker 1: it happens, and he he went through the proper protocols.
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  Speaker 1: He called the team, he let them know, he went
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  Speaker 1: to the doctor. I mean, he's dealing with it. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll wait to find out Wednesday where he's at on
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  Speaker 1: the injury report, and hopefully he can play by Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, like any other player, UM, he's doing
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  Speaker 1: what he's told by the team and the doctors. And
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  Speaker 1: you know I set that tweet out this afternoon, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, in our wacky world, what if he
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  Speaker 1: really is sick? Because I thought he was and I
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  Speaker 1: had heard he was too, so for me, I'm like immediately,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh no, he's doing this. Why would you
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  Speaker 1: do that? Why why would you do that? And the
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  Speaker 1: guy loves the game. Look, you can say a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things about Janalen Ramsey. He loves to play football,
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  Speaker 1: There's no question about that. He loves the game. All
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  Speaker 1: the other stuff sometimes, Look, does he carry it too far? Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: But he's not going to make up a sickness not
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  Speaker 1: to come to work. That's one of the dumbest things
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  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. It's easily you check it out, You
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  Speaker 1: send your doctors over and see how sick he is well.
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  Speaker 1: And then he practiced last week after the trade request,
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  Speaker 1: before the Thursday night game. Why would that all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden change after the request was afore the last
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  Speaker 1: game anyway? Right, Well, the problem with it is it's lingering.
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  Speaker 1: That's the biggest issue. I mean, your your question is
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  Speaker 1: a good one. I mean that's why I think we're
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  Speaker 1: all the same page three of us say sick and
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  Speaker 1: didn't He's done making this up. So, but the issue
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  Speaker 1: you have is this thing is lingering on and on
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  Speaker 1: and on, and it has legs, and I'm of the
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  Speaker 1: opinion that the team needs to cut those legs out.
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  Speaker 1: How do you do that? You just come out and
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  Speaker 1: say we're not trading them. Who comes out and says
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  Speaker 1: that probably needs to be Tom Coughlin says no, No,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be Tom Coughlin. It needs to
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  Speaker 1: be the owner of the football team. Well, but the
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  Speaker 1: owner has made Tom Coughlin in charge of everything that
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  Speaker 1: happens in football. Is the final say so, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: get that, though, Tony. But at some point the owner
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  Speaker 1: has to step in, and I'm sure he will. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure Sean con will. Uh. You know, he's got a
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  Speaker 1: big things. You can get involved with it. Well, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, I gotta sign a giant check. They gotta
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  Speaker 1: go to shot Com, don't they. I get that, But
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  Speaker 1: if I'm the owner, I want my head of football
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  Speaker 1: to be handling this well. But also, you're football and
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  Speaker 1: the kid that you're talking about don't exactly have the
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  Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy relationship. Guess what problem? Yeah, but guess what, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: have you liked every boss you've ever worked for No. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's part of life. Get over it. But but here's
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  Speaker 1: the other thing. Tony Tom and the coach. I understand
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  Speaker 1: that he's head of football operations and he's the one
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  Speaker 1: who has to sign off on trades and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: So he should just come out and say we're not
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  Speaker 1: trading him or I get that part of it, or
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  Speaker 1: if they're The idea of being comfy and cozy with
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  Speaker 1: your team president is one of the five dumbest things
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  Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Were you cozy with David Selden when
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  Speaker 1: he was the president of the team. David liked me,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, most people weren't. I can tell you that
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  Speaker 1: fair my But my point is this, Pete. You either
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  Speaker 1: come out and say you're not trading him, or I
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  Speaker 1: would say we're not trading him no matter what, and
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  Speaker 1: then you can still be working behind the scenes if
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  Speaker 1: you want to trade him, but just come out and
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  Speaker 1: say we're not trading him. I don't. Hey, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they are trading him. I never thought they were
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  Speaker 1: trading him. Uh. Look, the relationship is fractured. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: They can mend fences. Um, this is on them to
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  Speaker 1: mend defense with him and him to mend defense with him.
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  Speaker 1: And look, here's the thing. He'll get a mega contract
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  Speaker 1: from the Jaguars. It's coming. He just gotta go play.
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  Speaker 1: You'd stop the garbage, what's going on with Kaughlin or
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  Speaker 1: or who complaining about what Marone did or whatever, all
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  Speaker 1: of it, and just go play. What's he unhappy with?
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  Speaker 1: Is he unhappy with the fact that they called him out?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what he's unhappy with? Well, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: earn the right to get called out. Guys get called
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  Speaker 1: out all the time. You call people out. You showed
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  Speaker 1: up your coach a little bit. So for me, just
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  Speaker 1: go play. You get your check and be happy. It's
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  Speaker 1: not that he doesn't like the city. It's not that
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't like the team. He doesn't sometimes he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: like the way he's used, which I get guys get
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  Speaker 1: frustrated in that matter, but so does everyone else. JP.
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  Speaker 1: It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Um, So everybody
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  Speaker 1: goes to lose. You want to go, I'm gonna come
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  Speaker 1: to the podium every week and say, you know what
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  Speaker 1: we lost. I'm okay with That's great that that was
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  Speaker 1: a dumb comment. I hated that comment that he made.
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  Speaker 1: Because it made him sound like, you know, I'm justifying
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  Speaker 1: my behavior because I want to win. The stupid back
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  Speaker 1: to something that you said, which is also really irritating
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  Speaker 1: to me. He doesn't like how he's being used. Does
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  Speaker 1: he think that he's gonna go somewhere else to play
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  Speaker 1: man every snap? There's not a team in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: that plays man on every snap, not one, because nobody
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  Speaker 1: has four Taylor Ramsey's in the second. I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to other defensive corners and they said, like, if we
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  Speaker 1: brought him here, like I have to sit down and
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  Speaker 1: talk to him and say, um, we love you, you're great,
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  Speaker 1: but we're not playing man every snap. So if that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a problem, maybe we need to reconsiderate. I
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  Speaker 1: mean this thing, I don't know. I just a player
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  Speaker 1: of his caliber away unless you get two ones. If
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  Speaker 1: you get two ones, I think about it. Not in
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  Speaker 1: the round ones though those are two's, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Like, if you got for example, say the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs wanted the trade them to two ones, that ain't
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  Speaker 1: worth it, that's two twos. They're gonna be right at
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  Speaker 1: the in the minx and maybe the super Bowl winner, right,
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  Speaker 1: is that worth But like the Eagles giving you two ones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be well, the way they're playing, that
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  Speaker 1: might not be worth it. Might be worth it. But like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, that that trade that somebody reported and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. Uh Hurst and one in
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  Speaker 1: the two that didn't work, it wouldn't do it. No.
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  Speaker 1: And and the other thing is is, look, if you
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  Speaker 1: start this and trade him, who's next? Who's up next?
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock on you do Miles Jack after one
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  Speaker 1: year his new deal. I don't like it. I'm on out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not playing. Don't play. And that's what I tell Ramsey,
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  Speaker 1: don't play. He has no other alternative right now. The
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  Speaker 1: Jaguarris have all the power. He has no option other
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  Speaker 1: than the set now. If he wants to sit, he
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  Speaker 1: does have that option't get paid. And that's why that's
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  Speaker 1: why I think the team has to come out and
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  Speaker 1: say we're not trading them. He's on the team. I
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  Speaker 1: call his agent, we're not training. You sit down with Jalen,
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  Speaker 1: we're not trading You tell the media we're not trading them.
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  Speaker 1: And then I would have an honest conversation with Jalen,
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  Speaker 1: like you're on this team. Be a good teammate, play
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  Speaker 1: your tail off if you want, like all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: he does off the field, like the Brinks truck and
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  Speaker 1: the marketing stuff. I don't care about that, not yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Have a good time. But when you're in the building,
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  Speaker 1: when you're on the team, be a good teammate. Respect
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  Speaker 1: the coaches will respect you, and you're gonna make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money playing this game. There's your question. And
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to, then we're not gonna pay you,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll just sit on the sidelines. Do this. Teammates
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  Speaker 1: like them, I don't know. You hear different things. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not in the locker room. Mean, I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: you hear that. Some do, some don't. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: that means it's like every other locker room, right, because
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  Speaker 1: like name you, guys in your locker rooms then't like you.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the way it goes, that's not true. There are
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  Speaker 1: certain guys guys like. There are certain guys you don't like, period.
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  Speaker 1: That's just just life there. Everybody you work with, people
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  Speaker 1: you don't like, you like something like, don't like others.
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  Speaker 1: That's why it was but every and usually guys gravitate
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  Speaker 1: to them. That's why I'm asking that you guys are
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  Speaker 1: inside that locker room a lot more than I am. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you do they like him or not? Do they gravitate
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  Speaker 1: to him or not? I think the better question Pete,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll let JP give his sense because he's in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room more than I do. Are Do guys
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  Speaker 1: support what he's doing right now? Forget about liking him?
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  Speaker 1: Does he have the support of the locker room. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's depends on the guy you ask. I think
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  Speaker 1: it depends around that locker room. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: a hundred percent, but I don't think anybody in that
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  Speaker 1: locker room would have a hundred percent support of the
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  Speaker 1: whole locker room. But about liking from J, he's we
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  Speaker 1: get it, he's it's he's right. We support what he's
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  Speaker 1: doing here in A couple of guys today talk about
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit. They didn't say a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: it's they understand, Hey, he's doing what he has to
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  Speaker 1: do from he feels like from his business standpoint, um,
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  Speaker 1: and in saying this that he wants to trade and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. But he's still in the football team,
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  Speaker 1: so they understand why he's doing it. But he's still
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  Speaker 1: on the team too, So I don't think it's that
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  Speaker 1: far down the road yet where guys are really fractured
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room. That's just not the feeling I
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  Speaker 1: have gotten walking around there the last But that's not
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  Speaker 1: the question I'm asking. It's not about a fracture because
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  Speaker 1: of this. I'm talking about as a normal everyday teammate
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  Speaker 1: going into the season. Do his teammates like him? Is
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  Speaker 1: he friendly with his teammates? Do they gravitate to him?
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  Speaker 1: Is he got some leadership with them? They on the question.
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  Speaker 1: I'll answer the question never being in that locker room
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  Speaker 1: during a like an open locker room, and I don't go.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly he's Is he an a couple
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  Speaker 1: of questions? Is he the best player in that team? Probably?
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  Speaker 1: Or one of them? Yes, No, he is. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: voted team captain. Usually your best players, he's always he's always,
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  Speaker 1: but he's always said he doesn't want to be a
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  Speaker 1: team captain. Okay, you're missing the point. The players vote
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  Speaker 1: for the team cathains. He's one of your best players, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: you've been around this legal long time. Are usually usually
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  Speaker 1: that works out that way, You get voted in and
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  Speaker 1: you're the team captain. Now. Look, that's why I'm posing
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  Speaker 1: the question, and it has nothing to do with how
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  Speaker 1: he plays, no bearing on him getting a new contract.
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  Speaker 1: I like Jalen Ramsey, I I really do. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's refreshing. I don't mind the stuff he does, and
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  Speaker 1: I think he has the potential to be a great,
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  Speaker 1: great NFL corner. But again, he has no power here.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars have roll of him. If they want to
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  Speaker 1: control him for three more years, and even four, they could.
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  Speaker 1: So where's he going there? Work your butt off, make
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: this team competitive this year, and then after the year
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: they'll knock on your door and they will make you
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the highest paid cornerback in the National Football League. It
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: makes no sense to want to get out. Let me
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: answer that previous question this way a little bit, because
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: in the open locker room times, he's not in there
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a lot. Let's put it that way, Pete. Not that
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: he's not in there. That's with dodging and everybody else.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: That's what that is. But you'd ask for the open
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: locker room, right, that's the open I'm asking for teammates.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I Look, there are a lot of guys that hated
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: me back in the day. But they were good teammates.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And so you know, Tony knows better than I do
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: who the bad good teammates were. But I know guys
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that couldn't stand me, But they were good teammates that
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: they hide from the media. That's no bearing on it whatsoever.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We might not like it. But are you a good teammate?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Do your teammates gravitate to you? Do they respect you?
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Do they rally around you? Are you a guy that's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: going to get them ready to play? And the answer
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: to that question, I don't know because I'm not there.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You guys know better than I do. Right, I could
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: go back to training camp when he came in and
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: was doing the extra work and the guys are staying
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: out there with him. I don't know if he's leading
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: the way on that or not, but he was part
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: of that when he came back to camp, and like
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: many camp days and all that stuff, when he was
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: here in the mandatory mini camp and then in training camp,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and then there are times there's interaction, So I can't
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I can't don't know if I can fully answer that
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I'm dodging around. Yeah, I don't know if anybody can.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: There are guys you know, when you walk into the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: locker room you say, oh, that's the guy, like you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make his head any bigger than it is.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But Basselli was one of those guys. They gravitated to him,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: They went to and they looked to him. And Jeff
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Wadaman was one of those guys back in the day.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And you know, there are a lot of Maurice Jones,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Drew and Fred Tail. Those guys you gravitated. You knew
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: what they were doing. I'm not sure that's the case
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: with Look, if it's not him, that's fine, but that's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: not the you know, for me, it's about keeping him,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: growing with him, making him a star in Jacksonville. All right,
• 18:06
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• 18:10
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• 18:14
  Speaker 1: what he could do. Moving ahead about that, Oh, I'll
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: mean just say this before we go to break. I
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: locked it. I double locked the game. I said we
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: beat the Titans. I said we'd sweep them. It's in play.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I was right again. Yeah, Well, the week before you
• 18:30
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• 18:32
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• 18:34
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• 18:37
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• 18:40
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• 18:42
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• 18:45
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  Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, and here comes Tony Boselli back to join us,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: back on set. Glad to have you. Welcome Welcome back,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: one knew it. Welcome back. Well, you walked right across
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the camera shop. What are we doing? What do we mean?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: This is unbelievable, It's actually believable. It's actually it's embarrassing. Really, Gardner, Um,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Gardner met you this guy. I mean, the way he
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: played the other night, and it's he had a few drops.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It could have been much better than that. Um. The
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: guy that we've talked about this before has played and
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: stepped up in big moments that a lot of other
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks around the league have not been able to do.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And I know it's only a three game window, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: he's doing things, Pete, that are pretty remarkable to see
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: for any quarterback, much less a sixth round rookie who
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, didn't have arm strength
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: coming into the league. Did you see I tweet during
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you guys probably were working You see my tweet, I said, Nick,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: who wow, Okay, now, no, I'm like, I'm kidding around,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: but but look, the bottom line is the kid has confidence,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he has swagger. He believes in himself, and he moves
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: his head. He goes from left to right and right
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: to left. He finds the open receiver, he knows where
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to go pre snap, He's calm in the pocket, he
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: can move to throw. He should have had another touchdown,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you know, d D. Westbrook drop one right in the bucket.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So for me, look again, at home, you're you're playing well.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: He did nice things at the end of the game
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: against the Texans, he rallied against the Chiefs. But now
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you're on the road against the Broncos. And granted, the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Broncos aren't a good team and they haven't had a
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: socker or takeaway in any game yet so far, which
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: is amazing. But still, now you're on the road and Tony,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you go to that place that's tough to
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: play in there. It'll be interested to see what he
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: does this week. I expect him to play well, by
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the way, but he's been outstanding so far. How did
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Von Miller and Bradley Chubb not have one sack and three.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched any tape yet. I mean, how does
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: that happen? Pete? Well, the first game, the ball came
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: out quickly. The second game, the Bears are one of
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: those teams that gets the ball out, you know, that
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: gimmicked up offense that they play, so it's tough. And
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: last yesterday it was Rogers, So I mean that could
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: be you know how that can be. H Well, I'll
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: say this about Minshew. Um. He is everything Pete said,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and he has a lot of composure, and he's wildly accurate.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It's the one thing that's not talked about enough. He's
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: so accurate. And I was talking to Troy MN at
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: halftime or maybe it was before the game about him
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and dropping. Well, he was doing the game on thirs
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: so it's like that's what we do in the media.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: We talked to each other, Um and uh, I said,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: what do you think about watching him one tape? Because
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I love him And the one thing he's dead is
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: how accurate he is seventy four percent pastor and that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: does even included obviously the drops too. It's not he's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: dinking and dunk and either he throws it down the field.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: He's uh, he's not afraid to take the shot. Um
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And watching the tape that this morning, what was really
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: interesting to me about him Now, he missed a couple
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: of guys like every quarterback does, like he's doing behind
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Marques Well, no, because he was getting hit there. I'm saying,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like you watch a play and you watch it over
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, he could have gone here. But
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that's all right. I mean you're getting away, I mean
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: going with through Reeds And it's easy to say that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: on tape. I mean you can do that when you play.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Watch Drew Breeds or Tom Braid or anybody what stands
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out with them. He is yet to make a mistake.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He has not thrown into coverage where the ball can
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: be intercepted by somebody else. The one interception he happened,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the one, the one that he threw on the sideline,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: that kind of he got away with that one a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: little bit, a great throw, but there were two guys there,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: remember he had that was a great It was a corner.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: No one else is catching that. But but Deed, Yeah,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: but it's in the double coverage. You're no, the safety
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: was getting there late. It was he was he saw
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the corner he saw where the safety was. Hey, don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: get me wrong, Tony. I like that that chance throw
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: he had to check down in front of him. It
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: could have been an easy completion. He took the big shot.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: My point is he's not He's not making throws. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm just scarred because we saw it here for
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: five years. That right when the ball is gone, You're like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that's a pick, Like, why is he throwing it there?
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: There's no there's no throws. You're like why, Like what
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: did he see is he doing? Which is remarkable because
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's just going through one read and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: check it out. So looking around he's impressive, and I think,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what if he keeps doing it? I was stole my thunder.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's where I was going, he keeps doing it, doesn't
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a bunch of wins and keep
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: doing it. Or if he keeps doing it and they
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: lose some games along the way, what what level of
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: math do you have to do with all that? Well,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: here's it. I mean, you gotta win, you got you got.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: So they're let's say they're five and four after the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: after the London game. I don't know how you go,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: if he's playing at this level, how do you get
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: off of him? How do you leave him? Well, you
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: look at your bank statement for one, right, I mean
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: you're paying that guy all that money. You're not. But
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: he's back Tony. I'm not saying he's Tom Brady. But
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick had a big payroll. He was paying Drew Bledsoe,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and Tom Brady was winning, and Drew bledso came back
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and and Belichick said, you sit on the sidelines and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: playing the second year guy. Did you just hear that, Pete?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: He just compared him to Tom Brady, compared Moron to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Bill Belijack. No, I'm giving you. You just asked the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: question how do you do that? And I'm giving you
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: an instance, and that's what what happened. You're getting a
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: little ahead of yourself. Here, wait a second, I'm not
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: getting ahead of myself. Let's not let's not do revisionist history.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: None of us knew Tom Brady was gonna be Tom
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Brady in two thousand two when he and by the way,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he was not great. He managed the game. They won
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: games on defense. My guests, if you go look at
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the numbers of his first three games, there were nowhere
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: near what Minshew did. So what you're saying is that
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Minshew can manage them to a Super Bowl, then I'm
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: not saying that nobody knew that as well during that time.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: He come on, now, you know, I remember back there
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was a biays that well hard pressed to take him out,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. Hold on, before we do this, let me
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: ask you a question, because you covered the NFL back then,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and it was a big debate. You keep you keep
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: with Brady or do you go back to the franchise
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Coardyack Bledso who was making it was maybe one of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterbacks at the time in the NFL.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: There was a debate at Super Bowl week, remember, because
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Brady came off the the Bled Show, came off the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: bench and beat the Steelers. Remember that debate at the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Who's gonna start? Yeah, because Brady got hurt
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers, right, And I'll be honest, at the time,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I was a big bled Sow guy. I would have
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: started bled Sew, so you'd have been around. I got
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: two thousand one numbers up, you guys want to hear
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: him Brady bled Sew. So of course the game we
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: got hurt. Here comes Brady in five of ten passing
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: in relief, right, it was against the Jets week two
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: put him out right, and then thirteen or twenty three
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: for Brady the next week against Andy. No touchdowns, no picks.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: That's managing it. I think at Miami twelve eight six
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: yards passing, that's managing it. Got sacked four times at
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the home against San Diego, thirty three or fifty four
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: for sixty two touchdowns. But that was like his high
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: water passing market, the kind of game you're gonna have
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to see from Minshew at some point to sit there
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and say, okay, it's this is a legitimate conversation. One
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of those kind of games to seventy five is in
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that game No. Thirty eight for thirty eight for three
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: thirty and three touchdowns. Is that game? This team doesn't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: want to throw it thirty eight times, you know what,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're forced to. New England did that that year.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: New England want to throw it thirty eight times. Alright, Well,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: here's so that was one. That was fifty four passing
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: attempts in that game. And of course, like the rest
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of the way, his passing numbers are in the two hundreds.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Most amid two hundreds to fifty eight was his next
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: highest the rest of the season. That's my point, And
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: no one back then thought Tom Brady was gonna end
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: up being the greatest quarterback in the history of the NFL.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying, if this, if Minshew keeps on going
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: down the path that he is, playing the efficient football
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that he is, and you win games and you're six
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and three, five and four, it's not an easy decision
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: to go right back to Nick Foles. It's not a
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: given in my book. Okay, So let's play it, spin
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it forward. Say Minshew come plays the rest of the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: way and they go to the playoffs. Then what do
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you do with Nick Foles? Well, you can't do anything.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You're stuck because you have all that money dead money
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on him. You say, you're he's your backup unless someone
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: will trade for him. That's an expensive backup. This elly,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: what do you do with him? Pete? Maybe I don't
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: know a pleasant problem to have. Let's put it that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Can we revisit this in about a month, So read no,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: because we like playing it forward and favorable. Now, so
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: let's let's read the next six games out read the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: next jack six games for the because that's when Nick
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Nick's schedule come back by at Denver. That's right at
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Denver at Carolina both winnable. Might might not have Cam Newton,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: probably won't have Cam Newton. They would rather have Cam
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. No, that's like the easiest question I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: all day. What about you don't lose your job by injury? Yeah,
• 33:57
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  Speaker 1: Get serving up more. You know, you focus on the team.
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  Speaker 1: You can't focus on um hypotheticals like hey, what about this?
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  Speaker 1: Or is this happening? Or is that you know? You
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  Speaker 1: for me, I've gotten myself in trouble in the past,
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  Speaker 1: down in South Florida and his of course, was asked
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  Speaker 1: there about the the Ramsey situation, the distractions, how do
• 39:21
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  Speaker 1: on it? And that that was his answer. So now
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  Speaker 1: the only game they won was the week they had
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  Speaker 1: that distraction, right, I mean, so you just move on.
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• 39:42
  Speaker 1: his teammates went out and played the game. I mean,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that's what you do. You're paid to play football. Once
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: a distraction, look I think distraction sometimes can be so
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: overblown because you just go play and you know that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: better than I do. Tony, you played the game. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: got asked about it, and I said, listen, I gotta
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. It was a he's on the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: other side of the ball. There's no impact on my
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: job and what I do. I probably would have said
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: something to him, but you know, you know, shut up
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I mean, someone would have said something in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the locker room, but then you would have moved on.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have You wouldn't have affected one thing I did, Like,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: it would have zero impact on my life getting ready
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to play the Tennessee Titans. Like the only thing I
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: have said, like, hey man, that's not a good look.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: That's not we should be doing on the sidelines. You
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: can't do that the head coach and it's not good.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Like let's move on. We don't need anymore. Like we
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: had a guy. But as far as and stuff like that,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you care so then in my business. But we had
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we had a guy, and we had a couple. But
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: there's one guy who liked to talk a lot in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the locker room. And Keen and I were laughing about
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: this on the sideline and we'd all just look at him,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: say shut up, and we'd say his name enough, who
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: was it? I'm not gonna say what because it's there's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: certain things that happen to lock room need to stay
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: in the locker Like wait, he talks, talked a lot
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in the locker room. We just talked on the field,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: just would never shut up. Let me see if I
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: can figure out who that is. It doesn't matter. I'm
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna tell you. And but and so, but we
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the lo the locker room. My whole point is the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: locker room. Police it in the locker room, take care
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of it. They'll never shut up. I'm not saying who
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: it is. Why would you say it was twenty five
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: years ago? Because it's a locker room. A lot that's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: our the locker room mess. Certain privileges that unless you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, if you know he's years ago, I'm
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: writing book. He's gonna writ a book later. I was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: gonna break the news he's writing a book. He wants
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to hold the story. You gotta say some good stuff
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: for the book, Pete. You oh, right now, it's taking
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: me like three months to get the first page done.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: So that's about what I would expect. It's almost like
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the two hours it takes you to do a one
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: minute tease for the game you're doing it. Just just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: wait till he has to record the audio book by numbers. Um,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be like Super South Pawl the book,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the kids book I wrote upper ll no, uh no,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: it'll be better than that. But my whole point is
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: it would have been no distraction for me getting ready,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Like the only distraction would have been in the defensive
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: back room. Like if that would have been an offensive lineman, Okay,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: that might be a little bit of a distraction. It
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: was five big guys who weren't worried about Jalen Ramsey.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It might have been a distraction for him because he
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: didn't play that well last week. A couple of balls
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: got caught on him. Yeah, was his best game. He's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: better than that. But there were a couple of moments though,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: where he saw some plays like, okay, this guy is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: still playing here. I thought he played hard. He plays hard,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: he just didn't play as well as he normally does.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Got beat deep. It was a perfect throw. He he
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: was just there, just right over his fingertips and then
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: like on the one scoring drive in the second half,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: he had like three balls throwing in front of him. Now,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: maybe that was the coverage they told everything. Maybe they're
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: telling the dbs keep everything in front of you, just
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: come up and tackle. That could have been so I mean,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it wasn't his best. Now here's the one thing.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna make this much noise as a player,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and this justn't doesn't go for jailing anybody. At some
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: point you have to make a game changing plays. We
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: haven't seen that. I hadn't wanted used to any drop.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: That's right point. Hey, And he was don't don't get
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: me wrong, he was great. I'm not saying he wasn't good,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: but usually he was rated best cornerback in the league
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: or something. Who I Pro Football Focus. Oh, your guys
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: call me on that. I'll tell your story. After I
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: can't tell you on the air, I'll tell you a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: story about because I can't this I cannot this is
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: not years ago, but this is like brand new. I'll
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: tell you later. Um, but you know what I'm saying, Pete,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: When if you're gonna make this much noise and beat
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: your chest that you're the greatest player ever and you
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: want to get paid and everything else up, and Dion
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: will go make like special game changing play. I haven't
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: seen that in the first three games from Jalen Ramsey.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: In fact, the one time he had a chance to
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: win the game, possibly he dropped the pick that was
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: in his hands, it was a pick six. Yeah, but
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: he also took DeAndre Hopkins and neutralized them. That's hard
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to do, Pete, You're missing my point. I'm not. I'm
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: not saying he's not a fabulous player. He's a very
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: good player. He's probably the best corner in football. But
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the more you talk and the more you want the attention,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and more you say, look at me, it's all about me, me, me, me,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: me me. Would you love beat? That's you? You have
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to back it up with some special play. I want
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to he's gotta be like Dion. If he's gonna talk
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to talk, you gotta walk the walk. Hey. One one
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to pivot to here and I want
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to ask you, Tony, and I'm gonna put you on
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: the spot. Okay. I have nothing but the utmost respect
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: for Tom Cofflin. I really do. I think he's a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Hall of fame coach. I think he's an even better person.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: And while I used to have my wars with him,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it was you know back looking back on it, now
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: nothing but respect for the man as both a man
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and a football coach. And when he goes to Canton
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and he will, I will be there. But having said
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: all that, does him being a president of the football
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: team and being on the field with a whistle impact
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: these kind of situations. He's on the field of the whistle.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: While I see one day in practice Cup last year,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think it was he had a whistle on around
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: his I've never seen one. Stop watching the Stopwatch too.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: All the other stuffing, yeah, other, he has a he
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: has a taken notes and stuff. Does that affect But
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: he's in the middle of the thing. He's not like
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a normal president. It's almost like he's assist he's the coach.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: At times he's another coach. Does that impact when you're
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the team president, he's he's the team president, He's not
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: he's the every day he's the executive vice president of football.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: He's not the president. What would you be on the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: field every day in that role? I don't know. I
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: would be on the field, but I would I would
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: not sign on the side was standing the street clothes.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer there's one voice to the football
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: team and that's the head coach. Okay, so back to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: my initial question, but he's that Does that impact how
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: he in this situation, how he relating to Jalen Ramdy. Possibly?
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it might be a fact because I don't
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: know how much he's really involved in the day to
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: day with the coaching staff, so I'm not here in
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that role. But what might be affecting Pete is how
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Tom perceives the situation. He might have his coaching had
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: on and not a vice president of operations had on.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Two different roles. Correct? Does that make sense? So I
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's affecting it from the player's side,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: but I often wonder Tom's a coach at the very
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: core who Tom Conflin is. He is a football coach
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: and now is being asked to be a vice president
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: of operations. That's not a football coach. Different roles, two
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: different things, And you have to you look at things differently.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: You have to look at the big picture, you have
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to look long term, you have to do all that.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Is he doing that or is he looking at this
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: from a coaching standpoint. That's a fair question. Yeah, let's
• 47:48
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• 47:51
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• 47:54
  Speaker 1: poor management by Pete, I mean by JP poor management. JP.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: You did a job. You're the one talking. You're the
• 48:01
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• 48:04
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• 48:07
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• 48:10
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• 48:14
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna go fast. You ready. Topic number one? The
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  Speaker 1: offensive line pretty decent in past protection. What's going on
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  Speaker 1: in the run game up front? Well, they're struggling to
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  Speaker 1: his name blocks. Uh, they're not getting to the next
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  Speaker 1: level very well. Too much penetration just and it's not
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  Speaker 1: every guy every play. They can't get five guys on
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  Speaker 1: the same page. And you have to have that. If
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  Speaker 1: there as well. I don't know if we have a
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  Speaker 1: great in line tight end blocking group. Um, not the
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  Speaker 1: most physical dominating group, so you have some big defenseive
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  Speaker 1: ends that makes them more difficult. And then the final
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  Speaker 1: piece of why the running games that working. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think letter Fournette's running great now. Thursday night was on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, not him as much, um, and he
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: did have one nice long run. I wonder if if
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  Speaker 1: if Leonard four Nette is a zone runner, zone scheme
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  Speaker 1: that he can stretch to the front side, see it
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  Speaker 1: on the back side, plant one foot and get north
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  Speaker 1: and south, or do they need to go to more
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  Speaker 1: of a gap scheme where he's just a one just
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  Speaker 1: a downhill the hole in front of you and put
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  Speaker 1: a lead backer in front of him and just go downhill.
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  Speaker 1: It might just be a stylistic thing. Um. Some guys
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  Speaker 1: can do both. Some camp and it'll be you. Have
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  Speaker 1: posters for Andrew Norwell for stealing. Wow, that's a shot
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  Speaker 1: right there. I mean, look, he's not playing close to
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  Speaker 1: what they're paying him. Let's be real, that's fair. I mean,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and he hasn't played last year. The excuse was that
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  Speaker 1: he was hurt, right, And and look, let's be honest
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  Speaker 1: about it. If you're paying that guy that much money,
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  Speaker 1: he's got to be significantly better than he's been. Same
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  Speaker 1: for the center. Um, that's fair. They need to play
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  Speaker 1: better than tear. You need to play better. I think,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: what do you do a right guard, Tony? I would
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  Speaker 1: play Will Richardson. Um, I play him there. I think
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  Speaker 1: a J's like he's not the problem per se. It's
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: not like a J is the reason why you're not
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  Speaker 1: running the ball. I do think Will Richardson is better
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  Speaker 1: than a J, especially long term. Uh so we'll wait
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  Speaker 1: and see. You know, they rotated last week. I did
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  Speaker 1: not like that. I would not play a boy he
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: had left tackle. It sounds like Cam is gonna get
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: more and more of this. I wouldn't give away any
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: reps that left tackle and this camp's hurting or Will Richardson.
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  Speaker 1: So what would you do you if if you were
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: gonna take Cam out for spurts because he's not in
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the best of shape, you would play Richardson over there? Yes,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I would too. All right, let's move to the next
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: topic quickly here and go to Leonard Fournett the running game.
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  Speaker 1: He's played a hundred and sixty seven of one seventy
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: seven offensive snaps this year. Should they give other running
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  Speaker 1: backs reps? Absolutely, without a doubt, Yes, play rock Armstead.
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  Speaker 1: It's not working right now with Leonard four Nette. I'm
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: not putting it all letter for Nett, but let's see
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  Speaker 1: if someone else can get in a rhythm with his
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: offensive line and have more success, because right now the
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: running game is abysmal, and the easy cop out is
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  Speaker 1: to blame the offensive line. It might be mostly the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. I think it was mostly the offensive line
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night. But still I would give rock arms Rock
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  Speaker 1: Armstead some reps and to see if he can have
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  Speaker 1: more success with the guy's up front. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I would bench Lendond for Nett. He's still my starter,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm putting in the first half against the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: rock armsteads getting two series for me. I'm with Tony.
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  Speaker 1: The kid had explosive ability when you saw him, Um
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  Speaker 1: give him a chance. You're not getting done with for Nett.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: It takes him too long to get to the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and like Tony said, I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: fits with what they're doing and trying another guy. I
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: think fatigue has a play and him not scoring on
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: that long run late in the game. He had been
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: playing all those snaps all game long and usually took
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  Speaker 1: a lot of shots. You usually see him take away.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Eleven. He had eleven carries for minus
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• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: We've touched on the Jaila Ramsey talk. He's really sick apparently. Yes,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: he's actually sick. Yes, not the other thing, Tony. Isn't
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  Speaker 1: it easy to prove to send your doctors over his house? No?
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  Speaker 1: My point is he's actually sick. It's not a faker move.
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  Speaker 1: It's not fair. I didn't think it's not. But I'm
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: saying people who thought it was just send him the
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• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: all you want for some of the antics he is
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  Speaker 1: come up with the last week or so, but this
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: is not an antic. He's really sick, and uh, I
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  Speaker 1: What do you got this all? You got a flu
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  Speaker 1: to No? You guys woke up a little sure throughout
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: this morning. I don't know why. I don't like that though,
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  Speaker 1: so I've been on all the time. He's gonna come
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  Speaker 1: in here and give it to everybody else. That's great. No,
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  Speaker 1: you know what he's gonna do. He's gonna make it
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  Speaker 1: worse by talking again as much as he does, you would.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go quick, Let's go quick. His first answer was,
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  Speaker 1: any minutes you get through all the topics, Pete, that's fair,
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  Speaker 1: that's fair. That's a good point. I got no come
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  Speaker 1: back to that. I'm not gonna talk anymore. We we've
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: touched on, Jalen um mens hu mania? Are you guys
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: tapping the brakes? Are you riding the wave of menshumania?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I'm hanging ten, baby? Are you riding it and riding
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  Speaker 1: it out? Hanging tan Pete? Uh, look, I'm an agreement
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: with him. I love the kid. I think he's great
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: for the game. It's fun to watch him play, and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: he you love seeing a guy who anticipates, and yes,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I'm riding and I look, I want to see him
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  Speaker 1: play well. I like guys who have a swagger and
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: a chip on their shoulder. He certainly has both of them.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, he seems like a good guy too. That's
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the part of that. I've never met him. I've never
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: talked to him um at any extended period of time.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a good guy or not.
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  Speaker 1: But he's fun to watch and uh, he is a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: stud in the pocket handles himself. Uh really well, everything
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I've seen so far, he's probably I'm me. I'm gonna
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: give a little preview. I'm probably gonna lock this game
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: this week. So confident, confident. I'm feeling about it. Roadlock.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: But you lock six wins when by the time, no, no, no,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't lock that. I said, I'm right now between
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: five and six wins thinking about it. But this Denver game, Wolf,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: they're big, defensive, three tackled, three techniques. Yeah, he's not
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be out there. Will linebacker might be out I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: don't even I can't think his name. They have not
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: played very well defensively overall. And like I'll say this,
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  Speaker 1: here's a question for you. If you're picking teams right now,
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  Speaker 1: who are you picking first, Flacco or Minshew. I'm picking Minshew. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: probably not probably, no doubt about the left I want
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you to watch that. Here's what I want assignment for
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: you for this week. Garrett Bolls. I said, first of all,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: he's the worst left tackle I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I said this we I was looking at all the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: tackles two years ago, maybe three years ago. He's out
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  Speaker 1: of Utah. I was great them all and watching them all,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, no chance, I'm drafting Garrett Bowles to
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  Speaker 1: be my left tackle, especially in the first round. No chance.
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  Speaker 1: He is narrow. He does not have a big ars,
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  Speaker 1: so he's not a naturally just big man. And I
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: thought he was struggled with power man. He does. They've
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: asked him to gain weight and he refuses because he
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  Speaker 1: can't be his frame doesn't allow to look at his frame.
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  Speaker 1: He's narrow. He also eats like a vegetarians at a lineman.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, that's I'm telling you one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna end. It's not good for I'm like I
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  Speaker 1: should say, and that's not fair. I don't want all
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: the vegans to get mad, but these people who are
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: gonna like vegan and vegetarian to play professional ball, it's
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  Speaker 1: that going? Okay, what's Tom Brady's method? I don't even
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: know that's a TV twelve. That's not it's not. But
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: when you're when you have six Super Bowls, you can
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  Speaker 1: how's that going, Garrett Vegan, Garrett Bulls, Garret Bulls, Vegetarian
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Cory And to Pete, how's that working on? You just
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: said it does something weird. He's just not good and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: there and they why are they so patient with him?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I can't because they have nobody else. They have nobody else,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: and he's not big enough. The reason they know that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: he needs a gain weight and he's not big enough
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  Speaker 1: strong enough to hang up against the power. So he
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  Speaker 1: ends up holding everybody as soon as the power comes,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and then he leans and when you leave you can't
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  Speaker 1: handle the speed because they get on the edge to
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: wick and you hold again. Well, that's gonna be in
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Gockway over there, right, Yeah, and god Way did not
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: look like himself. No, he's hurt, stilling. Yeah, his hamstring
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: is not. Hopefully I would not. I would tell in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Gockway rehab, come to practice Friday. I don't want to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: see you until that hamstring. Yeah, you're correct, but he's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the only one that didn't, that didn't get pressure. Clay's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Campbell's a beast was working against I think most defensive
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: tackles a league would eat them alive. That guys, he's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: a sun devil. He's terrible. Ok I watched the first
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: two games of the Titans. No one else was doing
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: that against him at that level, but they got him
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: off the scrappy. He's not any good though. I don't
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: care you. Clays Campbell's beating everyone he lined up class
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: is awesome. Don't get me wrong. He's awesome. How many
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: sacks is Clays have? Now? Three in the game? Right? Yeah?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: You had three in the game. I think that's all
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: he said all year. I thought he had no. I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: thought he had one against Houston. Okay. Another guy who
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: had sacks in the game, Josh Allen, rookie defensive end
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: from Kentucky, two sacks in this game. And he was
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: really fired up after the game, of course. Yeah. I
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: mean I think everybody thought we probably fell off and
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: we started owing too. But we're trying to bring that back.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Uh would come back better, says well, be back. I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: guess we just gotta keep pushing from there. Saxonville's back,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: he says after, and he was really excited when he
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: spoke with Jeff log Evan on the radio post game show.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: That was that was a fun interview. I think they
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: could have talked the rest of the hour after the game.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: But you get that guy going, you get Klais going,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: if you can get it, got way healthy. Like that's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: the plan they had coming into the season with that group. Well,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: they have a good group. They have really good defense,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: uh when they are playing even close to their potential.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: And they played great on Thursday night. And one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I thought was really interesting, and I think it
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: showed how little uh Todd wash respected the passing game
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: of Mariota. I bet so. They went zero coverage, all
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: out blitz like four to six times, and you just
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: don't see that in the NFL very often. But start
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it though, Tony, yeah you are. But they came after
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: impeat from the start. I like that. I I like
• 1:07:20
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• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: they did that dominant performance by that front four and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: most of the time. Yeah, but he struggled. He struggled.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: He's not the same player ever since the knee um.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And they did a great job against the run to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: they shut out Derrick Henry. The run game was nothing.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: That was the story coming in. I'm sure they got
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: tired of hearing about it. I was really impressed with
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: just everything they did. What about Tavin Bryant, You had
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: a sack? Yeah? Two? Did you have two? I thought
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: he had one. I thought he got credited with two.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: They got credited. Actually, well, who has smooth? Had to smooth?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Had too? Yes? Right, But you know, Tavin had taken
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of criticism at the end of the preseason
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: and week rightfully so too, by the way, right, but
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: then he played better last week. He's playing better, and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: he played better this week. Credit. Listen, there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 1: with getting criticizing a guy like we live in this
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: world today, Like if you criticize someone like, oh my gosh,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: how dare you? You might hurt their feelings. They're probably vegan.
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  Speaker 1: It's not personal. And you're playing a professional sport. You're
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: where you make a lot of money and fans watch
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you and pay money to see you, and media covers
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: you and they want to tell the true story. Of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: course you can criticize. I agree, And when you get criticized,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that's at the end of the story. That's just part
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: of it. And I give Tavin Bryant, he got criticized rightfully,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: So wasn't playing well? He says, Okay, I want to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: get better. I'm gonna fit sit and he has That's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: that's the way it's supposed to work. That is still
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: a working progress, still working progress. I mean it always is.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: There's a saying you either getting better, you're getting worse.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: You're never staying the same in this world, so you
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: better be always trying to get better. I don't care
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: if your Clay is Campbell or Tavin Bryan, because if
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you're not, if you're staying the same, you're going backwards
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: because everyone else is moving forward. I thought much better
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: on on Thursday night, just from the TV. He looked
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: more active. He got off a block. I mean that's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: you hadn't done that right. No, he played well. He
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: played well against Houston, he played better against uh the Titans.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: He's gonna They're gonna have a great opportunity because I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: don't think that offensive line for Denver is all that good.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I'll dig into the film, watch it more here and
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: understand and have a little better idea come Sunday. Um,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: this is a game that the defense should go dominate again.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Flacco was sacked was six times this Sunday four or six,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. It wasn is pretty good. It's not
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: as good as the Jags defense, So should he look
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: They should be able to get after him on Sunday,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: No question. I think that's gonna be. That's gonna be
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: an easy part of it. The question will become can
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: they block Chubb and Miller? Who everyone else is? Right now?
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: All's getting out and Mitch you is good at moving
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: around and getting away from pressure too, and he gets
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: he makes quick decisions. I think you gotta. I will
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: say they have to get the run game going. They
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: can't count on Mitsche to carry this team in the passing.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: They have to get it going. I mean at some point,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: by the way, we glossed over something from the offensive side.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Know we're talking defense here, but DJ Chark is one
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: of the most improved players in the NFL. No, he's not.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: He is the most improved. Tell me improved. I'm trying
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: to think. I'll think of somebody, but he's up there.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: He's He's like top ten in yards and receptions and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and everything else. After three weeks. He was a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: special teams player last year. Yes, right, and you know
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: that by the way, that's something he actually did very
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: well till he did. It wasn't like he just said
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a special I'm too big
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: for this. He's a competitor. I give him credit, and
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I was wrong. I'm wrong, literally one to two times
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: a year. I was wrong about DJ Chark. I was
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: concerned about him coming out of the preseason. I was
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: concerned about a receiving corps. I didn't see where the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: production was gonna come from. I said it. I was wrong.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Charts playing great, Commy's playing great. DD who I thought
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: was gonna be playing the best is playing the worst
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: of him. I still think he's gonna have a good year. Yeah, minshew,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I give that passing game. You're not getting a lot
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: of production from the tight end a little bit getting
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: some balls to the back in for net, but it's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: mainly the receivers right now making it happen, and led
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: by chart. I give him a ton of credit. I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: was wrong. So some of the chart numbers, and if
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: you're watching on checkgars dot com, you see him some
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: of them on the screen. Eight Teen targets, fifteen receptions.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Those in the terms of the amount of guys that
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: are targeted in the league. It's it's down the list
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: a good bit and then you get the catch percentage.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I mean that's catch percentage is pretty darn good. Average
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: yards per reception is just over eighteen yards per catch,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: which is fantastic. It's thirteenth in the league currently. That
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: will spread out over the year, though, uh tied for
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: fourth and touchdowns tied for sixth in the longest play
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: of the year at sixty nine yard. Average average length
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: of a reception fourteen point nine. So, I mean, the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: guy's got He's on his way. If he can keep
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: this kind of pace up. That's the big question I
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: think with him and this offense. It's it's but if
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: they get a run game, it's gonna even me. It'll help. Yes,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: it will help. That he's doing it without a true
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: running game right now. I do worry about that, and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I worry about it going to a place like Denver.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: If you get stuck to having to throw the ball
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: the entire game, that's not easy. There to be loud,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: the place gets rocking. They have two good, really good
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: pass rushers were not in the line have to put
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: their weight right now. They're not. Are you concerned about
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: d D. No. I think he'll be fine. I do too.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I just had a rough goal last week.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: He'll he'll come out of it. He's fine. Yeah, open,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: he's open. There's no doubt about that. That's step one.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: He'll be fine, not like he's getting. That's a good
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: for a team that didn't have any receivers going into
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: the season. That's become a good. Little group has been good. Great.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: They only had the tight end. That's the one they're
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: missing right there. And Oliver was back in the practice
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: field today. The rookie. It's a lot to ask. We
• 1:13:36
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  Speaker 1: were back on the field today for a short kind
• 1:17:52
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  Speaker 1: Let's do this Number one at Tornado's Soul seven, asking
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  Speaker 1: when will the offensive gameplay include more carries for the
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: other running backs? For Net doesn't seem to be more
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: productive when he's used exclusively as the only running back.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: We touched him this a moment ago, but yeah, he's
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: had all but ten reps of the entire offensive snaps
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: all season long. That was the plan they wanted to
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: do that though going into the season. Yeah, I would, uh,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I would give two series a half to h Armstead
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: two per half. So you have you have thirteen to
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: fourteen series of game Let's say twelve the fourteen, so
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: give you know, three to four of them to do
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Armstead why not? I'm with you. I think he needs
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: to find out what he can do on game day
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  Speaker 1: when it counts. Um, you know, look, you're not getting
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: anything from four NET. You might as well try something
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: else and maybe you keep for Net a little fresh
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: shirt towards the end of or a season or wherever.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: You know you're not beating them up all game long.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe we can run. We'll see. I don't know. You
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: gotta try something. It's not working what you're doing right now.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: It's not all for net. The offensive line has to
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: play better. Next social question from at young BASSELLI, as
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: a young father, I would like to know from Tony
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: since he has kids, how did you know when your
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: kids were faking sick to try to get out of school?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks Fellas. I wonder what this is referring to. Well,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think Jalen's faking it, So let's do let's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: just put that to bed. We've already said that. Um.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: But it's a great question, and you have to be
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a Jedi as a father to
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: read through and to see really what's going on. A
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: key thing is there, find out what they have do
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: as far as homework that day. Find out if there's
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: any tests that day, because the dead giveaway is if
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: they have homework they have not done that's due, or
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: there's a big test that they're not prepared for. It's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: amazing how many people get sick during those situations. But
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: those are keys to look for, Pete, you got an
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: insight to this. I don't have any kids, but I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: don't I remember what I had motto at the Times Union.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I wanted to work. They made me go home. Yeah,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: you're such a tough guy. Yeah, it's all about the team, right, Pete. Huh,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: it's all about the team, right. Well, they were worried
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I was going to infect other people, of course, But
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: that's the whole other story. I'm saying. I was Sam Donald.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: They kept him away, did you see that? Well they
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: had to. You can't play. His spleen might rupture. No,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: not not from playing. I'm saying they kept him out
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: of the facility because you don't want he could have
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: infected other people in the building. You want no one
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: else to get sick. Of course, did you ever miss
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: a practice or anything being sick? But selling? Nope? Never,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: not one perfect attendance for you, huh, college or pros.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: He almost missed today though, because he had a sore throat. No,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: I'm here, tough media guy. Now, the media guy. Look
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: at it. I've played sick before too. That's miserable. Why
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: did you lose all those fluids and your body gets
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: are dying, hurting, miserable, It's miserable. What so, Michael Jordan
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: had the flue game in the finals, did you have
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: one similar to that, like a playoff game or somewhere
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: you're sick? Yeah, like altitudes remember that, remember that throwing
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: up before the game got on. I had to get
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: all like eight I vs. Before I went on the field.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Blue game went dominated was Alfred Williams, isn't it YEA
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: next question I am Mr Bennett asking if Minshew keeps
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: putting up these great numbers, what's the calling Folds is
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: ready to come back. We've touched on this as well,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: these questions before we talk about all this. We're a
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: little far down the road, but I think that he's
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: already replaced them. He's got him cell, he's got him
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Minshew playing the whole year. Yes, not true, he's already
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: putting the ring of honor together. No. The question is
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: if they're six and three or five and four and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: mintsh you was playing, well, how do you make a change.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Let's say, all right, here's another scenario. If they're four
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: and five and Minshew is has pedestrian average numbers, put
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: folds back in. What if they're five and for and
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: he has the same numbers, what's the difference? One lot
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: one more win? Thank you? You know, I mean, because
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's the only guy on the team.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: But you gotta look at the numbers. You have to
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: look at the whole picture. You can't separate the two,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think. And how how it looks in general,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: look at the offense and how think you'll know. I
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: just think you'll know, h Pete, Yeah, you'll know. I'm
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: with Tony. I said that. I don't think they're gonna
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: have a tough time doing it, Tony, That's me. I
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: just think they're gonna have a real tough time doing it.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: Um keeping him in there now if there's not if
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: there's six and three or seven and two, they're not okay.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: If there's seven and two, I mean they win the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: next six, then three. He stays in for sure, no
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: matter how he plays, No, not no matter how he plays.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I mean if he plays a couple of weeks after
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: that and he stinks for a little while, then here
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: comes Falls. Right. No, I'm saying when Falls comes back.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: If they're six and three and he's been good but
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: not great. You keep him in, right, what's the line,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: what's the demarcation line where he put falls back in? Six?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: I mean five wins, five wins, It depends how he's playing. Wow,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: you even got down to five. So if the kid
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: wins for the next six, then you've keeping him in
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: so right, So if he's five and four, it means
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: he's five and three as a starter, and you're keeping
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: him in. It's I'll say this, it's a long conversation
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: with with the rest of the trio him. If I'm
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: the head coach, I'm talking to Dave and Tom about
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: it and talking to my staff. Wow. Pretty amazing, And
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: if that happens to be great story would be something
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: everybody starts showing up the Jatuary games with fake mustaches
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: and and cut off shorts. Did you see that the
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: other day? They asked him at Washington State? He actually
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: cuts his own shorts. He's a trip. I mean, who
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: wears cut off jean shorts nowadays? I mean, I guess Gardner.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: I know one person that does, right, I don't. He
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: was wearing them on the sideline and Pullman. Yeah, that's
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: good for him. He secure he likes it. Comfortable. I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: guess that's a long trip to take on your bye week, George,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: don't I did my your bye week. It's on your weekend.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: I did on my bye week my work here. I
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: went to SA. You did. Yeah, here's a question. It's
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: not a bye week though, Tony bye week? Do you
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: bring this up? Pete? What do you do? You have
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: anything against that? No, it's your time, so it's your time.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: You can do what you want with it. Man, Friday,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: did they even come in Friday? No? Man, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: If you got on a plane Friday, he was there Saturday,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: flew back Sunday. Big deal. He's plus, he's four years old.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You don't even need to sleep when
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: you're that old. Right, it's not an issue. It doesn't matter.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: The next question from at No toes down, what are
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: you seeing from DJ Chark that has led us to
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: his improvement through three games this year? We touched on Chark,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: but what about his game is different now? Is receiving.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: He's big, he's fast, and he's catching everything and the
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: body ConTroll he has them, the deep balls tremendous, so
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: he's putting it all together. He always had the tools,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: and he's just putting all together. He's he has some experience,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: he's more comfortable out there. My guess is with the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: under the tutelage of Keeno McCardell, he's understanding what the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: looks and that he's seeing out there from a defense
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: zone man, what to expect, how to set up routes.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: It's just the progression of a young receiver. He has
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: all the talent. We knew that as far as tools,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: speed and so forth. There might might have been some
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: questions on the hands, but no more because he's catching
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: everything that's near him. Well. The other thing, too, is
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: when you're a young receiver, you get in the league,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: you get see all these coverages and you're thinking and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: not reacting. And now he seems to be reacting and
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: not thinking and he's playing much faster and that usually happens.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: And hey, look, Keen. It is a good coach, you know,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: keenand has done a nice job with all of those guys. Alright,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: final social question. We've touched on this also. We kind
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: of ruined this whole segment. You guys went off script tonight.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: We're talking about you know what it was though, JP
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: nobody's mad. So the questions are all like football related,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: not angry. It's a good point. That's a good point.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: And this is from Marcus Parsley asking what are some
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: feasible adjustments that could be made to milk some production
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: from the running game, and which is more to blame
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: individuals losing their blocking battles. That's one the backs inability
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: to improvise out of a shutdown primary gap too or
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: three scheme slash play calling and B A and B
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: inability to improvise out of a shutdown gap and individuals
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: losing blocking battles. I'm not ready. I'm not ready to
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: make common up to three games on the scheme or
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: the play calling. I don't see anything that's jumping out
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: as not good. No, it's it's the first two for sure.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: They both gotta they gotta be better about those areas.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: Want to run the ball, you gotta be better up front,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: and you gotta have a better back and get make
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: make something out of nothing, something right, not negative. I
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: could fall forward. Well, if there's a hole, if there's
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: a big hole, almost any back can run through it,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: and he's great at running through big holes. Good backs
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: and great backs great backs create space and find space
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: where there is no space. Good backs just need a
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: crease to hit. I mean a great back. I wantcha
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Kawan Barkley run. It's not like there's a huge voice.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: He makes space, He creates his own space. A good
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: back just needs to crease hit correct, and he hasn't.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: He doesn't do that at all. Alright, social media questions
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: are done. There's not a lot of creases either. In
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: that game against Tennessee. No no, no, no, no. Put
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: in the long runny hat. He kind of made that
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: on his own. He spun out of it. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: What what what? What? What are you going in for?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I haven't Yeah, guys stayed on their blocks, and I'm
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: not sure he was really touched. Like one guy got
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: an arm tackle on him, like an arm on him.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: That's it. There was good blocking down the field. Now,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: he did a good job. He kind of put his
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: head down, got in there and moved his feet and
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: spun and all of a sudden there was open field.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't spin, he's probably tackled. Right, Okay, right, yeah, fair,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: very fair. For some reason. I'm not a I'm not
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: a hater. I put it on the offensive line this game.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: I just told you that. For me to do that,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: that's pretty big. Hm. I I did, by the way,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I did go back and uh and watched the two
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: point play from the end zone camera. Should have walked in, Yeah,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: there was an opening to the right early. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I should have walked in And there was actually an
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: opening where he went. He just kind of got shucked with.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: But if he puts his foot in the ground and
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: goes to the rights, he walks in, that's two weeks ago.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: That's in the past. Pete. We're moving forward. I'm just
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: those are the little things that Tony talks about. Barkley,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: he walks in. Then let's come back. We'll look around
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. We'll touch on the a FC South,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: get your power rankings, power rankings, love power ring, and
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: some young quarterbacks around the league are making the splashes
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: earlier in the season. We'll get big pictures on one
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: young quarterback that everyone killed the GM for picking where
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: they picking him where he did, and some analysts at
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: this table mocked somebody else for picking them in the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: mock draft. I don't know who that was. Well, refresh
• 1:30:04
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  Speaker 1: f C South with the standings so far, and oh
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: what could have been if the jackson It punched in
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: that two point play Pete, they would be two and
• 1:33:52
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• 1:33:55
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  Speaker 1: we gotta kind of look to the past when you
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: look at the standing and not only that, they didn't
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: get any help from two teams that you thought would
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: win against division teams yesterday. So I thought the Falcons
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: would beat the Colts and it didn't happen. And I
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: thought the Chargers would beat the Texans and they blew
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: a game. Houston two and one in D two and one,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville one in to Tennessee one and to the Titans
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: have lost two Division games already. Well, the Cults are
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: going to three and one because they play the Raiders
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: at home this week, and the Texans played Kyle Allen
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: and the Panthers, so there's a there's a chance both
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: those teams go to three and one this week. So
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: it's a must win this week again since last week
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: was a must win. Uh. Yeah, I mean I hate
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: saying it must win this earlier in the year, but
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: it's really important, I think more just for the internal
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: confidence of this football team. Just drama going on. Yeah,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean they look it's not a must win, but
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: the way that division is going right now, it looks
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: like you got to try and keep pace right right,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: You don't want to let it, let it because you know,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: don't you think both those teams are gonna win this week? Tony? Uh?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Where's the Carolina game at Euston? Yes? And who the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Colts play Raiders at home? Yes, they're both gonna win.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: They lock? Are you locking those? No? No, he's one
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: in one of his locks this year. I'm one and
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: oh on double locks and want to know yet they
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: haven't done the back end of the yet. You want
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: me to triple lock it, I'll do it. I'll do
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: it right now. I don't think that's ever been seen
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: in the twenty one century. Yeah, it could happen. Let's
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: move on, triple lock man, don't even tease us like that.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Forty different starting quarterbacks has started games this season, including
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: three rookies, Kyler, Murray Gardner, Minshew and Daniel Jones. The
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: young quarterbacks playing pretty well Daniel Jones yesterday. Guys look
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good. And remember who said it first? Who said
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: it first? I did well. I picked him in the
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: mock draft on this broke. No, you never said said
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: I said he would be good. I picked him. You're
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: not surprised, beat, No, I mean a surprise he played
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: that level. Yeah, but no, Uh look I was with
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the kid may and yeah, I just got the you know,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Tony around a quarterback and you just get the presents
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: and you just know. And I had watched his tape
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: and Duke I liked him. See here's the thing with him. Ready,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL people loved him a lot more than the
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: draft Nick and the Twitter, Colt and everybody else did.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: So everybody killed the kid all throughout the draft process,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: and then when he goes that high, they killed him
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: even more. It's just like it's it's unreal how that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: happens with a certain player. And he was that guy
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: if you watched him a duke, he heard his shoulder,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: he came back and played the same year. I mean,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: he's a competitive, tough kid who's athletic and can make
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: all the throws. What's not the like well for an
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: offense that looked I want to say, I'll just I
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, put and that's not fair, but way
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: below average with Eli Manning. You put the rookie and
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: they're all of a sudden, they're moving it up and
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: down the field with no st Kwon Barkley, right, I mean,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: and he was making shots and he ran for two
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: and he's athletic. I mean it looks that. You know
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: what if normally, if you're a Giants fan, you come
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: out of that game and you go our star runners
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: out six to eight weeks with a high ankle sprain,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: you know you won the game, but you could have
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: easily lost the game as a kick. But that's not
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: the story. The story is you look at you got
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback that he looked as every bit as
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: good as Darnald has looked in any game in his career.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Did they wait too did they wait two weeks too
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: long but start Daniel Jones? Maybe maybe they did? And
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: what hell me? I always want to play the kid early?
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: What is? What? Now? What goes on with Eli? What's
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: gonna happen? He's gonna stay there? He doesn't want to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: be traded. Does he have another year after this? He's
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: got no trade clauses. I think he retires after this
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: season and just walks away from the last year. Yeah,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: don't you. I don't know how old is Eli? Thirty?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: He'll be thirty eight. I think that whole group with
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: him in Roethlisberger and Rivers are all I think is
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: he Does he have the same competitive drive as his
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: brother Payton, because if it was Peyton, Payton's going somewhere
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: else to prove to everyone that he's No. I don't
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: think so quired Maybe a little bit differently, Yeah, absolutely,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: the is anybody touching the Patriots Chiefs in the a
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: f C? Are there any other teams at that level?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Right now? It's the Patriots, the Chiefs and everyone else. Yeah,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: you get into the playoffs, anything can happen. Uh, thirteen
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: more games injuries. Anything can happen, So the NFL can
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: change quickly because of injuries, especially at the quarterback position.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: But if Brady and Mahomes stay healthy and neither of
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: those teams get beat up that much, they're gonna be
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the going away favorites to meet in the FC Championship game.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: And my favorite right now would be the Patriots because
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: they're more complete. Okay, don't you agree they're better on defense,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: better on defense, but the Chiefs are better on offense. Yeah,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: but the Patriots, if they have to, can get going
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: on offense. We saw that against the Chiefs in arrowead
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: last year. That's fair. That's right now. On the other
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: side in the NFC, are there any powerhouse NFC teams
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: right now? I know there's Dallas is three and Green
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Base three and oh the Rams in San Francisco are
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: three and oh, but do they qualify? So I think
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: the best two teams in the NFC are the Cowboys
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: in the Rams. Those are the best two teams, and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: I really like I think the Packers will be the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: best team in the NFC. Hold on, before we get there,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: I got a question about the Packers. I like the
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: Cowboys probably even more than the Rams right now, because
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: I think they're better defensively, and they're better on the
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: offensive line. That Rams offensive line has gotten older and
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: not is not great at all. Um, The Packers are
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: interesting to me, beat. I mean, they rebuilt that defense
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: this year, right this offseason, and they're only giving up
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: just over twelve points a game. The offense is not
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: humming yet, but you gotta believe that it's gonna get
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: better with Aaron Rodgers throughout the year. Well you gotta
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: remember too, Tony, Look who they played. The defenses they
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: played open the season, you know, talking about not helming.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: They played the Bears, the Vikings and the Broncos. Those
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: are three pretty good defenses. Yeah, you know we're we're
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: an agreement on that. But I'm saying that's when I
• 1:40:20
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  Speaker 1: it's new offense. Rogers told me felt like a rookie
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  Speaker 1: oft times this summer. So they will get that ball,
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  Speaker 1: I said it earlier. I said that Dran when they
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• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: you're crazy, He's not gonna be dominant on defense. Well,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Petton is a good coach, and Mike Petton has
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  Speaker 1: toys to play with, and when he gets you in
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  Speaker 1: that nickel and dime, he throws so many different looks
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  Speaker 1: this is a good defense. The one knock on him.
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  Speaker 1: Though they're not big and teams have run on them
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Are the a f C powerhouses better
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  Speaker 1: than then? The two best teams in the league are
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Chiefs. Yeah, i'd agree, but a
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: lot of things change over Season's got teams get hurt,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: guys get you know, I mean, you just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But right now it's clear and cut the Patriots in
• 1:41:24
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• 1:41:30
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  Speaker 1: Let's do starting with the Buffalo Bills. Did we do
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  Speaker 1: That's a great Cults one Texans too, Jaguars three Titans four.
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  Speaker 1: I got Texans one, Colts too, Jags three Titans four.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you have the Texans ahead of the Colts?
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  Speaker 1: Why are their defense is better? And if I'm picking quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're really really close. But if I'm picking quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: I'm picking Watson over Yeah, probably so, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think their defense is that good. To be honest with you,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Texas defense is as good as it's. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well people were clamoring for those I'm glad
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• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: National Football Teague, starting with the Buffalo Bills. Frank Gore
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  Speaker 1: heavily touchdown run Josh Allen to three through the air
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  Speaker 1: forty six yards on the ground. They won over the
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: hapless Bengals there, and they got a big game against
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: the Patriots this week, and I think the Bills to
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: go to the playoffs this year. It's in Buffalo, too,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: isn't it, Pete. Yes, Patriots historically have not played great
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I still think, with all that said that
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna kill him, not kill him. But
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: the only concern is is Tony is the The offensive
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: line is banged up, but I know Skarnekia kind of
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  Speaker 1: cures those ailes and so does Brady. That's a good
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  Speaker 1: defense in Buffalo, Buffalo good. I'm with you, Pete. It
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they're the wild card, one of
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: the wild cards at the NFC. They're very good football
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: team and he's a good coach. On mcdarnott, he is
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: a good coach. And Josh Allen, who got killed last year,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: is getting better and better. I think he's a good
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: uh good NFL quarterback. He has he has a chance
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: to be a franchise guy. I agree. We touched on
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They beat the Dolphins thirty one six of
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, No, they won't go over and sixteen they
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: play the Jets twice. The price split right Packers over
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the Broncos seven sixteen. The Colts beat the Falcons twenty
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: seven to twenty four in the type ball game. The
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: Falcons are in trouble and I hate to say if,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: but it might be the end of Thomas Demeatrough and
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, both guys I really like. I think they're
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: both good at their jobs. And I hate to say it,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: but if they don't figure it out. They have way
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: too much talent on that team, especially on the offensive
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: side of the ball, but they're not producing offensive and
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: they struggled in that game to score. Um My guess
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: is Arthur Blank's patients are running out. I would agree
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: with you. He's not very patient heat with He will
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: not be patient with these two. If they don't win
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: this year, they're both out. But here's the funny thing
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: about the NFL. They play the Titans at home this week.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: They should win that game. The Saints play at home
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. That's a tough one to win. I
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: don't care where it is, but it's particularly tough with
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. The Bucks play at the Rams, that's a loss,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: and Carolina plays at Houston. They could look up and say,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: you know what, they're time for first place after this week.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's a good point. Chiefs over the Ravens
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: thirty three. Patrick Mahomes great again, it wasn't that close.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs. Chiefs control that game that you know. Late
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: the Ravens got it going. Um, I think Lamar Jackson's
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good quarterback. I think he did nothing
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: that would change my way. It wasn't good yesterday, but
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: he wasn't terrible by any stretch of imagination. He's not
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. So when you compare it against that, it's hard. Um.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs are just better. They're better. What do you
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: think of up down seven six, fourth and two? You
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: went for it on your own end at the forty something.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: It was that the Ravens. I didn't see the beginning
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: of games. It was early in the game. I got
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: with the exact situation, but I think it was fourth
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: and two at the your own forty eight, and he
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: went for it, didn't get it in. About three plays
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: later it was fourteen six. Yeah, I punted that away.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: That seems desperate. That's that senses desperation to me. Not
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: believing in your team to stop the Chiefs. I would
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: kicked it away and make them drive the field. And
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: then when he made it nine late in the game,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: he went for two. No, he made it eleven and
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: he went for two. That doesn't getting it to nine
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't help you, right, what's the point of that. Coaches
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: do things. I can't explain. Pete Strange, strange the vikings
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: over the Raiders thirty four or fourteen Vikes now two
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: and one. Pete, Well, they can run the ball, they
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: can play good defense. And Kirk Cousins is manageable in
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: games that are big games. If you call a big game,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: he'll curl up. If it's not a big game, he'll
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: be fine. Well, they play the Bears next week on
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: the road, Is that a big game? Yep, he's in trouble.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Simple enough, fair enough. Patriots rolled thirty to fourteen Lions
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: over the Eagles. Was the shocker to me. The Eagles
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: all kinds of issues they have. The two of the
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: receivers are out, um, their defense is not very good,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: especially in the backfield. They're one of the teams in
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: the rumored to be wanting to trade for Jalen Ramsey.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: I can see why they struggled on that side of
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: the ball at one and two. I'm doing the game
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: this week up in Thursday night, they go to Green
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Bay with the Cowboys three and oh, with a a
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: game that they're probably going to win or at least
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: their favorite. They get the four and oh and you're
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: one in three. Three games is a long way to
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: make up. Now, the Texans did it last year against
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, but I don't see the Cowboys collapsing the
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: way the Jaguars did last year. It's a must win
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: for the Eagles in Lamboa on Thursday night. That's tough. Yeah,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: and they lost two defensive tackles, Jackson for the year,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: and then Timmy Journe again went down. I mean they're
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: banged up. They're hurt. Having said all that, though the
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: lines are undefeated their two oh and one, it should
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: be three oh, three and oh because they blew the
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: first to lead the first game against the Cardinals, we
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: went to the Panthers without Cam Newton gotta win thirty
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: eight to twenty with the Cardinals. Giants over the Bucks
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: thirty two thirty wanted Daniel Jones making his first start.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Texans beat the Chargers seven and twenty. The Saints Teddy
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater in a first time in a long time that
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: he started in a game. Obviously comes through the win
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: over the Seahawks seven. The Seahawks can't run the ball
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: consistently when they do, case and fumbles that they had
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: third fumble of the year, third lost bumble, Yeah, fourth fumble,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: third lost one for Carson and then they they came
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: from behind with a bunch of garbage yards from Yes,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: I mean their defense was getting pushed around. Camaro was
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: running all over him. They had the punt return for
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: a touchdown. Look, you got it. That's a Sean Payton
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: win right there. That's what that was. He manufact Bridgewater
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't great. He was good enough. You go into that
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: place and win. That's a big win for them Niners
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: over the Steelers. Are you buying the Niners, Pete? Not yet?
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: You gotta look who they beat box opening Day. They
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, who are terrible, and then they beat
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: the Steelers with a quarterback making his first start and
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: had to come from behind to do it. So the defense,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: you know you're off the three start, You got a
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: good chance to be a wild card team, don't you?
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: And that team, that defense is pretty good. They beat
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: the Steelers yet turning it over five times, they should
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: have scored a bunch more points. They turned it down
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: as they were driving. They gave the short field Mad
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: Crosby as well, Rutolph as well. Um, I think they're
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: pretty good now. I don't think they're winning the division.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna meet the Rams, but I think they're
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: the second best team in that division right now. And
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: I do think they make the wild card. Well, okay,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: so you gotta that means you're eliminating either the Vikings
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: or the Bears, or the Eagles then or the Falcons
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: or the Saints or look, it's too early to say
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: who's made, but three and oh is a great way
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: to start your season. I'll tell you that who do
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: they play this week? Um, they're on the boy, they'll
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: win this one. They can't lose. That's what you don't
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: be undefeated. And then last night the Rams over the
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Browns thirteen was everybody a little premature on the Browns bandwagon. There, Pete, Yes,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to win in this league. He
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: got a first time head coach. You don't know how
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: he's gonna act. And and here's the cardinal sin that
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: they made. An Tonio be the first one to say it.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: They didn't address the offensive line enough and it's coming
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: back to bite him. That line is pathetic. They got
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: rid of Zeitler for Olivier Verdon and that hasn't worked out.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Greg Robinson is a good at left tackle, Hubbert's injured.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: The right tackles a disaster. The left guard is good player,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: the center average at best. They have problems. Um, yeah,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: I think there's too much hype around the quarterback and
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: everything else. He's bad football right now. He's not playing
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: very good. He's been pretty inaccurate. Um, there's some stat
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: out there. If he has to hold the ball at all,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: he's not very His numbers aren't very good. It's all
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: quick game. That's really where his successes come from. He's
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: bad too, I'm not I'm not saying he can't do it.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't be a good player. But man,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: we jumped the gun and all of a sudden he
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: was a hero after a short stint. That just goes
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: to show you how bad the NFL and people want
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: the Browns to be good because they're historic franchise and
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: or how bad they've been for so long. They got
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of hype they didn't deserve. And we'll see
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: how the rest of these season. At draft class, after
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: last year, everybody put Baker one. He might not be
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: one anymore. It might be he might be three, between
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Donald and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, he
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: might be four. Donald hasn't done anything this year. Well,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying he could. I mean, there's my
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: point is there's four guys, the stories yet to be told.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: When everyone said after the end of last year, old
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, what a great pick. He should have been
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: the number one, don't be surprised three year years from
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: now that the other three guys might be better than him, Right,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: the guy I would have picked with Josh Allen. That
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: there's I've never wavered from that one. All right, there
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: you have it. Monday night football coming up. It's an
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: NFC matchup. Is he good or is he not good?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out more tonight as quarterback Mitchell Trapsky
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: leads the one and onces Chicago Bears into Washington to
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: face case Keenum in the Old and two Redskins who
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: are still not starting Dwayne Haskins. Who you got it?
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Land Over? Tonight? I got the Bears. The Bears are
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: a really good defense. I'm not a Mitchell to Ritsky fan. Um,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting really hard Forrown Robinson because I haven't on
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: a fantasy team, so I hope he has a good night.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: You're very selfish. It's all about me, um, But the
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Bears defense is really dang good. I'm with you, Tony.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: This is gonna set football back forty years tonight. It's
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be terrible to watch. But look at the bright side.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Next Monday we get the Steelers in the bank. Oh boy,
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: you know Stilly'll fight each other. Something to watch this
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: year as the season goes on is how many of
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: these games you can't flex Monday night obviously, but Sunday night,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: with the injuries Roethlisberger Andrew Brees, do they start flexing
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: teams out earlier because they're not gonna have the marquee
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: quarterback matchups. Well, when the Jaguars are six and two,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: they're gonna start flexing Gardner Minshew and you're that's what
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, I mean, listen, you gotta get more Mintshew.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're if you have the confidence win
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: to where George's on the sidelines of a college football game,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: you should be flexed into Sunday at football. By the way,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: they blew at seventeen lead with him there, they might
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: watch sixty seven and sixty three twelve football. A lot
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: of defense, A lot of defense there. They love defense.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: There's our look around the National Football League. What's your
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: gut on this Jags game Sunday in Denver. I'm gonna say, now,
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  Speaker 1: it's locked, a guaranteed win. It's locked. They're gonna run
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  Speaker 1: the ball. I don't think the defense of the Denver's
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: that good. Um without Wolf, No, the backup linebacker is
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be in there. I think they're gonna emphasize the
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: run game. I think they're gonna get it going. I
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: think our stead is going to be a part of that.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: For Nett will have a good day. Look for minshow
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: to be a fishing again. His final numbers will be
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: twenty three for thirty eight five two touchdowns. And then
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: then you think they're gonna win easily. Then yeah, I
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: haven't winning by double digits, ten points. I haven't winning.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: I haven't winning the game. I think they won't get
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: the nine sacks they got last week, but they might
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: get five. Yeah, I mean, do they shut out Von
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: Miller although I'm playing for him, but Von might. Von
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: is a good player. He might get there to one
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: of those guys they're gonna get that ball comes out
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: quick with Minshew though, that's fine. Here's what's gonna happen,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: and this is you can lock this as long as
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: you want to. If plays Campbell is gonna run over
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Garret Bolls multiple times, watch it. Yes he will, or
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: whoever's over there will, or they'll get held or whatever
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: it takes. Right, Wow, all right, do you have it?
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: There's a show, great show in the books, JP, Lock
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: it up. Lock, we got another lock? Yeah, locks, A
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: lot of locks out there, boys, it's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: locks on that gate. I need this to happen. I
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: can't go home to unlocks next week. Trying to Pete Brisco,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: CBS Sports Senior writer, kind of tune? Is this right here?
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That's Tony Boselli. Thanks to our entire
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Chris you want to dance? Please don't please? No, for
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: everyone involved, I'm JP Shadows. We'll see you next week.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.