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Sahih Bukhari left him OUT! (ft. Sayed Mohammed Ali Rizvi) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Esalam Alaikum Muhammad Allahu Barakat and welcome to another
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episode of the aftermath of podcast.
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Some would say this is your favorite shit Amazon podcast.
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Yes, I know another name, another face on the podcast Co
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hosting today since Ahmed Goku's absence.
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I'm sorry if you're disappointed and thank you if you're
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impressed. I'm actually very happy to be
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here because we're going to talk about one of the most important
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individuals of Shia Islam, which is none other than Imam Assad
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Alayhi Salaam. As always, I'm I'm going to go
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I'm going to be Co hosting sorry with one of my older brothers
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Saeed Ali Ladari is Salaam. That I know.
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That Hamdullah. Hamdullah, how are you?
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I can't complain I've been under the weather in the last few
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weeks, so people who listen in week in week out will sound like
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will understand my voice is a bit changed yes that's
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inshallah. That's why we told them to pray
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for us. Yes, especially you for this
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week saying how are you keeping? Well, Hamdullah, not too bad.
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The weather this week has been a bit, you know, not that nice.
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But other than that, I'm excited for tonight.
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I'm really excited. You know, we have a beautiful
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guest with us today and I think me and you especially are going
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to learn a lot today. We are, we are because we are
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going to be discussing Inshallah, the life of Imam
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Jafar Salati Salaam and there is so much to learn from him.
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You know we say we are Jafaris. Yes, we are Shia.
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So we look up to this most important figure we can say when
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it comes to our jurisprudence, which would be to be said at the
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very beginning. And we can't have this
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conversation alone. Of course, we are joined by the
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amazing, the wonderful, the respected Sayed Muhammad Ali,
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Rizvi Saeedna, Salaam Alaikum. Thank you for having.
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Me. Thank you for coming down.
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How was the journey to the studios?
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Al Hamdullah Al Hamdullah, it's an honour to be here and it's
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even more of an honour to be here.
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In the name of the 6th holy man Salaam Alayhi, the Jafar is
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coming together to remember Jafar Assad Salaam.
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Alayhi Salaam say that normally we before we kick start off our
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main discussions when we have like a special guest that comes
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over and you know, always us with their presence and their
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gems and their wisdom. We have like a question our
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viewers know as an icebreaker. But for me it's it's to get to
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know you more and for the viewers and listeners get to
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understand who you are as an individual better.
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But this one's in relation to Imam Jafar Assad, so it's a bit
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different to our normal Ice Breakers.
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So I'm going to give you 2 scenarios.
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And you can't choose both. You have to choose one and say
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the reason why. Option A, say it.
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Now you have the opportunity to serve in the House of Imam Jafar
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Assad. Option two, you have a lifetime
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of learning under him. Imam Al Jafar is your teacher
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and you're his students. Which one would you pick and
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why? It's a tough one.
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It is a tough one. That's a tough.
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One, because both of them are. The best of both.
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Forms of salvation and sada. But I think for me, I would go
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with serving the Imam in his household because I consider
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myself to be his servant, his slave.
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And something tells me just by serving him, I'll be learning
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because it's his household to be there to serve him, to see him.
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Because you know, you, you have in the narrations that those who
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used to serve a little bait, for example, Filtha or Cumber, there
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were servants they used to serve, but at the same time they
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also had reached peaks of Maratha.
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And then there are those who came and learned and became
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students. And yet they, you know,
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deviated. And you know, there's no
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guarantee. So I would choose service over
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maybe a classroom sort of a setting.
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Beautiful, beautiful. I love that.
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I really love that. Especially I know Yasser loves
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Hipler, yes. So this is something he doesn't,
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of course, of course, Allah. Bless all the all those had the
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mean. Of the Allah say it.
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Let's start the discussion. Really.
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There is so much points I think we want to come across and I
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want to make. I want to maximize how much.
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And Charlotte, we can learn from you today saying that when it
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comes to the life of Imam Jafar Asadeh, and I think if we can
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begin here, we know Imam Jafar Asadeh Ali Salaam is one of the
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most important Islamic figures throughout Islamic history.
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But despite this, we find in many, many, many circles, for
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example, when it comes to the Sunni world, he's absent from
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their talks, from their circles. When it comes to the Shiite
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world, he's limited to just to Khala Sadiq, Khala Sadiq,
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nothing more and nothing less. So I feel like there's always
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like an under appreciation. Why do we find ourselves in this
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situation? I agree with that.
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And also just a point here, we should have more on this imam
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for a number of reasons. Number one, I don't know how
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many of us know this, but he's one of the longest living Imams,
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except of course, Imam Sahu Zaman are the ones who were born
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and then were killed, killed fi Sabil Allah, he's one of the
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longest living Imam. So that means we should spend
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the longest on his life, on his teachings, on his studies.
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So that's number one. Number two, he's, we are Jafari
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in Fiq. We are Alawi in Akhida, but we
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are Jafari in Fiq, so we should give him more time.
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Of course we spend time with him, Ali, Ali Salaam, Hassan,
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Imam Hussein. But something tells me that we
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need to spend more time with his fit, with his ideas, with his
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teachings and his students speak for for the Imam himself.
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So I give you credit. I give credit to those who do
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work for the Holy Imam Ali, Sato Salaam, to really try to
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highlight what he taught. I mean, he had students who
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became Imams of others. Yes, we'll get there eventually.
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We have. But he has students who became
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Imams of others. And he's not somebody who needs
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introduction because he's known in Shia circles as well as Sunni
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circles. For example, Imam Jawad may not
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be known in other circles, or for example, Imam Al Hadi al
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Salam may not be known in other circles, but he's someone who's
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known in Sunni circles. Clearly among Jafar Sadiq, yes,
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we know mam, Jafar Sadiq, you're Jafari straight away, Jafar
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Asadiq. So for this reason, I think that
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he's not somebody who needs introduction, but yet at the
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same time he is somebody who needs a lot of dissecting,
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revising, revisiting and opening the in opening the debate.
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Why is it that such a big personality does not get that
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same attention that, for example, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam
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Malik, Imam Shafi or Imam Mohammed Ibn Nahambal, why is it
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that he gets less than them? And so this is where we, we dive
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into it really, and we try to figure out what are the issues.
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You know, why is it, there's clearly a reason.
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I mean if they do not deny the fact that Abu Hanifa and Malik
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study under him, then why is it that he doesn't get that same?
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The answer is simple and short. He is of course the Imams of the
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Shia and there was already a bias that is a Shia Imam
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throughout history. You find that Mamus al Qadim how
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the Imam or Rafi as they said on his janaza when he laid there.
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Who is this? This is the Imam of the Arafat.
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That's one. The other is that the Imam Ali
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Salaam did not give baya to the governments of the time.
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So he didn't have that support, whereas other Imams did.
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So he did not have that backing from the government that the
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other Imams were getting. So now when people ask the
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question, you know, I don't know if you school of thought famous
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Maliki school of thought, famous Shafa, school of thought,
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famous, humbly famous Jafari. Not everybody knows why this is.
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Why? Because there is an ideology
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that was pumped and pushed and Imam Jafar Saaliya Salam's
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ideology was not pumped nor pushed.
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And I I I think the point you're trying to say, or that I
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understand of how I see it, in fact, say it is that because I
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think if they elevate the status of Imam Jafar al Sadiq in those
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four different schools in Shafa Ali Maliki humbly, that it sort
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of opens up questions, possibly a kind of worms of who's your
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teacher? Yeah, you know who who, who is
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this person that you learn all your fit from, for example, that
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might send them straight to your mum, Jafra Sadak.
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Do you think like there's like a?
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Possibility of how do they not ask the question?
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Well, that's what baffles me as well.
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Because I always find it like it's common sense.
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OK, I Revere this man, he teaches me a lot.
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But who taught him? Yeah.
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So that what do the other people in the other schools of thought
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not ask this? And and whilst we're in the same
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topic of Imam Jaffar Saadah teaching students, can we, can I
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ask a question of how was this? How was the classrooms?
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How how are they like, I don't want to say built, but like how
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are they organized? For example, like we know Abu
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Hanifa and Maliki they were. They were taught by Imam Jaffa.
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Directly yes. But how was it?
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Was it in the classroom of 30? Was it in the mosque?
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Was it at random times that the imam say for the next two years
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you're going to be under me? Do you know what I mean?
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Like what's? How was it organized?
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So I definitely don't think the classes were as systemized as
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they are today. Yeah, but we do know from the
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Kitabullah Shard of Al Mufid, he says that the Holy Imam had had
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4000 students. Now 4000 is a big number.
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You don't even have a classroom of 30.
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But that doesn't mean that 4000 sat in one room together at one
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time. It could mean 4000 / a number of
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years who have come and have gone from the beginning to the
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end, whatever. But Sheikh Al Mufid says there
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were 4000 students of the Imam and they were all narrating from
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the Imam. So imagine how many they are
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narrating from the holy Imam Ali Sato Sama.
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There are 4000. Imagine having 40 that are
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narrating from Abu Hanifa. We heard directly from Abu
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Hanifa or Imam is Shafi. Then imagine having 4000.
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So they were definitely not systemized as these and perhaps
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they were not daily, but consistently.
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A bulk of those two years of Abu Hanifa's life were under the
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teachings of Imam Asada and hence his famous statement Lola
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Asanatan Lahalaka. Not a man.
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Had not been for those two years, not a man would have
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perished. And interesting some people have
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tried to tweak this. But wait, he doesn't say he
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studied. He just has two years.
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He doesn't say he studied 2 years under Jafar Asada.
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People need any reason to just exclude a little bit, any reason
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to deny the favila of a little bit Ali Musalaam.
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But Lucy Shaha Sayed Shahabuddin Mahmoud al Lucy, who is the
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Mofasser of Quran tafsir, Ruhul Mahani, his famous tafsir, he's
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a Sunni Mofasser. He says Abu Hanifa by by saying
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this, those two years under Jafra Sadiq is taking pride upon
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those two years which he spent under Imam Masada Khalifa.
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Yeah. So those two years here
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According to him and others, Khanduzi and is Yanabi al
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Mahadda or for example Ibn Hajar in his a Sawaq is a famous, you
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know Mohad, the theme of the Sunni world and their books.
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They also these two years refers to Imam Jafar as Sadiq Alayhi
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Salaam. So the question is who is
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greater than the teacher or the student?
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OK. Yeah, that's a question.
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Why don't people you know why? Why does no one focus on this
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point? Why go to the student when you
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can go to the teacher? Yeah, this is against Apple.
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This is against logic. Yeah.
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And then even on the same topic, you, you mentioned hadiths of
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like, not hadiths, but sayings of maybe Abu Hanifa saying if it
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wasn't for those two years. So do we as the Shia, I believe
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that Abu Hanif al like was taught directly by Java Saleh,
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because I know many that tried to like refute this claim, or
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even on the other side of like the Sunni brothers and sisters
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trying to refute this claim. Because of course, what Sunni
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wants to hear that their scholar, their the person they
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Revere for theft and their, their jurisprudence was taught
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by a Shia to get it. So that how, how do we think
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about it as the Shia? How?
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It's established Sunni or Shia I have in history is history.
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If it's considered authentic then it is accepted right?
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It's established by both Sunni and Shia that these two directly
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and the other two indirectly studied under Imam Sal.
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Imam Sal not only that a lot of people don't know those Mahab
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that didn't exist. You see this for mother hub like
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the for Khalafa. This concept is a new concept as
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in it wasn't there since the prophet or you know, it's not
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something set in stone. Who made-up this concept of four
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the motherhab Motherhab al arbat or the Khalafa Rashidun or the
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you know the the Arba or these aimatl arbat, the four.
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This is made-up over time over history because this was the
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narrative of the government. Otherwise there were other
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mother which have been dropped. For example, the mother hub of
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Sofian authority who was also a student contemporary of Abu
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Hanif, I studied under Imam Masada Ali Salaam that died.
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The mother hub of has Hassan al Basri was close with all my
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years, the Omaris that dropped and died.
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So eventually there were other schools that lived, but
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eventually they died because they weren't supported by the
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government or they didn't have the followers.
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These schools were supported. Abu Hanif had given Bayer to the
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bassets. Imam Malik was honoured by that.
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But he used to have a special seat where he used to sit and
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lecture. He wouldn't just sit on the
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floor, he would have a seat. In fact, the book of Malik, Al
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Mwatta Mwatta al Malik was written under the commands of Al
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Mansoor, the tyrant of the bassets.
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And it's said that, you know, he asked him to write this book so
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that he doesn't narrate anything for Imam Ali.
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And if somebody doesn't believe that, then find me a tradition
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in Mawatta from Ali Abnebith. Ali doesn't read anything
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directly from Imam Ali Alisa. Completely zero say it.
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Nothing directly from Imam Ali Alisa.
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How can a book of hadith be a book of knowledge if it does not
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have a giant like Ali? How can it be a book of
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knowledge if it does not refer back to the door of the city of
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knowledge? So this was unfortunately, this
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was the the political mess of that time.
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The closer you are with the tyrants, the higher your
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position. And So what happened eventually,
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of course, these are hard facts we're talking about.
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And you know, they're not really mentioned.
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And a lot of the things are not known to the people because we
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have what we have what's known as famous history.
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There's history which is famous, but then there's ground
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realities. For example, they say Rasulullah
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Sallallahu alaihiwali wasallam married Khadija when she was 40.
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This is famous history, but not reality.
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Reality is different. Or they will say that he married
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his one of his wives was very young.
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This is famous history, but that's not reality.
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So there's a difference between that which is famous and that
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which is real. And what's famous is what's
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pumped out the narrative, which is pushed out by the by the
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Khalafa, by the, by the and these were the names Hanafi,
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Maliki, Shafi, Hambali, nobody supported.
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And look at the irony Subhan Allah, the fact that the mother
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hub of Imam Jafar Saathi was not supported.
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Yet still it survives without anybody support.
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That shows there's only one real support without any support,
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without any government backing. Today, you know you want
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government backing, you want funds and you get the media you
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get, you know you get the screen time and mam sada al Islam and
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none of that. 100% the backing is from Allah real, the backings
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from Allah say just on the school of Imam Jafar Assad.
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You know, with all these different schools that we've
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been mentioning over the last few minutes, what makes the
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school of Imam Jafar Assadak stand out compared to the other
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4? Is the Imam himself?
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Allah, Allah it. Is the the essence of the Imam?
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You know when we say Imam Jah, it's very easy to say and you
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hear people on the screens that say this Imam Jaffar Sadiq, Imam
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Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shah, Imam Fulan.
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But this Imam Jaffar Sadiq and that Imam can nowhere be
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compared with one another, especially when one is the
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teacher, the other is a student. Imam Abu Hanifa is a much ahead.
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Imam Malik is a much ahead. Imam Asadiq is not a much ahead.
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It's. Not just a law.
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Is masu mansu mean Allah? He's not.
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When we say Imam Jafar Asadi, can we say Imam Shafi?
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We don't mean one too much. The hadin or two of the most.
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You know two of the scholars who do, who do which they had no
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Mahasada Ali Salaam. Doesn't do which they had
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Mahasada Ali Salaam. What he says is Nas.
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What he says is clear. Reality is what he says is
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Islam. What makes him different?
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Let me give an example, Abu Hanif.
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And no, a lot of people wouldn't know this, especially within the
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Sunni circus, because again, this is not what is put out
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there. Abu Hanifa himself is disputed
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within the Sunni circus. Ajit.
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Yeah, Anisa in his Kitabu Doafa, the book of the week, he says
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Abu Hanifa was weak as in we can, you know, narrate as a as a
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had this Imam Bukhari even considers him weak.
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Abu Hanif interesting. Sofia, an authority who was with
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him was a contemporary and a student of Mamasada.
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He had a school of his own, which, you know, died off
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eventually. He says, OK, he was a fatty, but
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he wasn't a mahad. This he was not strong in
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hadith. So he was strong in something
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but weak in something else. Similar things you'll find with
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the others like Maliki. Imam Malik had a book on
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narrations. But then there's scholars who
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would say, well, he was not strong in the scholars who would
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say Shafi was strong in Hadith, but he was weak in Shafi.
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And in fact, if you know, if you study Shafi, he was in Iraq and
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Egypt. When he was in Iraq, his fatwas
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were different. When he went to Egypt, he
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changed the fatwas. He says what I said in Iraq is
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old. What I say in Egypt is new, so
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that must have his qadim and this must have his jadid.
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So he changes his stance. Abu Hanifa will change his
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stance. Malik would change his stance.
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Sometimes they will, you know, they wouldn't allow people to
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don't write this because what I think today may not be that what
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I think tomorrow. So they were all disputed.
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If there is anyone undisputed, that's Imam Jafar, Salam al Baha
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Ali, you will never find Imam Jafar.
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Asadi said Don't write this down because tomorrow might change my
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mind. You would never say Mama sadi
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Ali Salaam say well look in Medina I believe this and today
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I'm in kufa. I believe that they all believe
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the same things. Their statements never changed.
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And where there was strong in for example, the other other
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imams are strong in one subject, they were weak in the other.
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Imam Sadiq was strong in all of the Olum, thick was all
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theology, philosophy, hadith, tafsir of the Holy Quran, juris,
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you name it. Also everything Imam Salih Ali
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Salaam had it covered. This is what makes him
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different. This is what makes him stand out
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from the others, what makes his position different to others.
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You know, there are times that Abu Hanifa was given.
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Mansoor once calls Abu Hanifa and he says test Jafar Abdul
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Muhammad, we'll bring him into the court testing, ask him the
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most difficult questions. Imam Salih Ali Salaam comes, he
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asks, he says I asked him 40 questions, I prepared them the
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most difficult ones. And he says by God he answered
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each and every question like this.
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He says, oh, Abu Hanifa, the people of Medina believe this,
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you believe that and we a little bit a little bait believe this.
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So he says he, he knows our beliefs.
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He knows the belief because he was from Iraq, Iraq Abu Hanifa
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was from from Kufa a little Medina believe that.
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And then he says we believe this.
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So not only does he know the answers, he knows the answers.
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He knows the the belief system of all of the schools.
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He says, by God, I have not seen anyone more alum than Jaffa
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Muhammad, where will you find an imam like this?
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Brothers, you have a look through history.
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You you'd find someone like this.
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But then that's why I have a question as well.
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Sorry to say that I'm work asking so many, but it's I
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honestly I'm just trying to learn as much as I can with this
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hour 45 minutes that we have with you.
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But I wanted to ask Imam Jaffar Salam online.
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Are they they say that he carried on what his father
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before him, Imam Hamid al Barkal laid foundations on.
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Can you give me a bit of history on that?
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Just yes, I understand What's the difference between Imam
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Muhammad al Barkal Salam Ali Ali is school university and how how
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did it differ when Imam Jaffa Salek took took charge because
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we normally say where Jaffa is. So that means he not only did he
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firm the foundations, but he built the pillars of FIP.
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So what was what was Imam Hamdan Barker doing to prepare his son
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to now go and make this out branch to teach so many students
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that that's something I'm trying to.
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Understand the founder absolutely right.
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The foundations were laid and we have to give credit to Al Baqar
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Ali Salaam as well. We do say, you know it's the
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Jafari madrassa or the school, but the foundations were laid by
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Imam Bakar Ali and of course Imam Sadiq had that opportunity
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and none of the other aim before him or after him have had.
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Inshallah, the 12th demand will have that opportunity.
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But the 11 Imams, he had the opportunity.
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He propagated the most. He lived the longest, he had the
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most students. Hassan, Abdullah, Ali Al Washa.
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He was a big name among the theologians of that time, among
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the different schools, like Hassan Basari, you know, these
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guys, he says. Once I entered the Masjid, I saw
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about 900 people were sitting there.
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And there were different circles, you know, like when you
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go to a mosque and they're all discussing studying.
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Like sometimes you go to the House of Niger for home, you see
24:10
the Olama in circles. They're doing what's called
24:13
Mubahifa. Bath and Harridge so.
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Or even even even the introductory students will do
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that, as in they sit and they discuss narrations and whatever
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they've learned. So it shows it's an old, it's an
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old tradition, yes. So I said, I went to the Masjid
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and I saw everybody's in circles and they were discussing.
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So I walked by all of them and they all said the same thing.
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There was 900 there. They all said one thing.
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They narrated the Hadees and they said we heard this from
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Jack for Asad. We heard this from Jack for
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Asad. We heard this from Jack for
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Asad. Because the name Jaffer was so
24:53
common and it was upon the tongues it became known as
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Jafari. One of there's an interesting
25:00
story actually which I just read few days ago in one of the
25:03
books, one of the the the Kavi, not the judge when somebody was
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when two people were brought to him, of course they were from
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the Bassett courts. So when two people were brought
25:15
to him to give testimony as witness, he looked at them and
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he says Jaffarian, Fatimian, these are two Jaffari, Fatimi,
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Shia. So these words I know at that
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time they use the word Jaffari fatimi because there was two of
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them. Jaffarian, these two are
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Jaffari, these two are Fatimi. So the olam up, you know they
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pulled it out from the books and said look even at that time they
25:41
use these words and not that today we use the word Jafari and
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Fatimi and Halloween, these are from that time.
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So because of that though Imam Baker Ali Salam lays the
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foundation, yet the system the school is associated with his
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son. We does it is it?
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Is the correct translation, the splitter of knowledge?
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The splitter. Of knowledge, the one who splits
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the order loom of the Nabi, the knowledge of all of the
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prophets. In other words, he that
26:19
knowledge existed, but he gave he split that knowledge so that
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it was easy to absorb and he gave it, he explained it.
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The tough seal the the details, they come from Alebet Alehem.
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Salaam, you know, whenever we have, for example, if we say
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Allah Sadiq or a hadith from Imam Baraba, for example, or
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whether the Imam has asked her to say, for example, the
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beautiful thing about the alebet is it traces always back to some
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Allah Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
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Ultimately these are the laws of Allah azzawa.
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So it's not like someone came and made-up this ruling and said
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this is Islamic law and that's Haram and this is Mubarak and
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that's must have No, this is what Rasulullah said, right?
27:05
And that's the beautiful, beautiful thing about the
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Jaffrey school of thought. And say just aside from the fic,
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if I can ask about a car, it for a.
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Moment if I just if I can just add on to your point as you made
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a point that you reminded me of a point I wanted to make.
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This is what makes him different to the others because Kala Sadiq
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or Kala Abu Abdullah Sadiq is called Rasulullah but this
27:32
cannot be said for Abu Hanifa or Imam Malik or Imam Shafi or
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Ahmad Ibn Hambal and did you can challenge this to the this.
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Is the truth. To the Sunni world, this can
27:44
only be said for Jafar Asad. Even if they don't accept Imam
27:48
Jafar Asadiq, they must accept that out of these 5 S, four of
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the Aimbatul Arbab Dahlu Sunnah and Imam Jafar Asadi, who is the
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descendant of the Prophet, you go and ask the question.
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There's only one who is from the household of the Prophet.
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And as the Arabic saying goes, sahib al bait adra bimafiha, the
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person within the house knows what's in the house.
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Sahib al bait adra bimafil bait, he knows best what's in the
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house. And and that's what the Holy
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Imam says, Hadithi hadith to Abbi.
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Yes. My hadis is the hadis of my
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father, Wahhadis to Abbi, Hadis to Jeddi, and the saying of my
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father is the saying of my grandfather.
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Wahhadis to Jeddi, Hadif UL Hussain, Wahhadis UL Hussain,
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Hadis UL Hassan, Wahhadis UL Hassan.
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Hadis to Amir al Mahdis, Amir al Mahdi al Mahdi al Mahdi.
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Oh Lulla beautiful. So Jeff Rosati says is the word
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of God. So that.
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Just want to add this as a pointer.
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This is something that makes him different compared to the other.
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Well, thanks for sharing. That is beautiful.
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Inshallah those listening take notes inshallah and learn from
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this man that we're discussing today.
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Say it's we spoke about the fic and normally we refer to the
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other schools. We say for example, the Shafi
29:15
high school of four. Normally we refer to them when
29:17
it comes to fake jurisprudence and things.
29:19
But when it comes to the Al Qaeda, how comes they differed
29:23
if they learn? For example, they spent all
29:26
these years in the classes of Imam Jafar Asadek.
29:29
I'm sure the Imam spoke about al Qaeda as well.
29:32
What happened? What went wrong with the other
29:34
schools? It's interesting because we do
29:36
find that Imam Saadi Ali Salaam at numerous occasions tells off,
29:43
Abu Hanifah tells him off, I was going.
29:47
To ask that, I was going to ask how how did Imam Saddam treat
29:50
those two? How was the teaching?
29:54
System. So again, this is history that's
29:55
not discussed too much. Should we discuss it?
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Yes, yes, of course of. Course, so there is, you know,
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there's some harsh statements from the Holy Imam towards Abu
30:08
Hanifah, especially Al Imam Assad al-Assad in Mamus al Qadim
30:12
Ali Salaam towards Abu Hanifa. Very harsh statements.
30:16
For example, Abu Hanifa, Yeah, Abu Hanifa do not do chaos, you
30:20
know, used to do chaos. Yes, he was known for his chaos.
30:23
It's a jurisprudential 50 terminology, one of his ways to
30:29
derive rulings. Anyway, I don't want to get too
30:30
much into that, but he used to do something where he used to
30:35
apply his own reasoning, basically to keep it simple for
30:38
the audience. He used to apply his own
30:40
reasoning for a ruling where there was no reasoning given in
30:45
Quran or Hadith. So he would say OK, because
30:48
alcohol is Haram, because intoxicates something else is
30:53
Haram. We don't know the reason but
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we'll tell you the reason is the same.
30:58
So he would kind of it's like a guesswork where he now gives his
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opinion, his right, his own opinion.
31:05
This is Haram because because of this, you know it's not really a
31:10
reason for it. So he gives his own.
31:12
Anyway this was forbidden. A little bait never did such a
31:16
thing. You know, either there is nuss
31:19
clear instruction, Quran, hadith, a little bait.
31:22
Otherwise you don't give your own reasoning in this, you keep
31:25
silent. Or you know, there's other
31:27
rulings in Osul that anyway he says do not do chaos for the one
31:33
for in a Wellaman Casa for the one the first one who did chaos
31:38
a bliss. He compares him to Shaitaan.
31:41
He says do not do this. The work the first one to do was
31:45
this was Shaitaan when he said I am, you know, I'm made from fire
31:50
and he's Adam is made from the dust.
31:54
Why should fire bow to the dust? Fire is better.
31:56
You know all these things. He says don't reply your own
31:59
reasoning because I'm better, I'm not going to bow #1 #2.
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Imam Ali Salaam once sees Imam, Imam Sadiq is, you know, is
32:12
going out. Abu Hanifa sees him and the holy
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alarm is holding a, you know, walking stick, a staff.
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He says, you're young, why do you hold a stick?
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He says this is the stick of Rasulullah, this is the assa of
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our grandfather Rasulullah. So he says, Yabna Rasulullah,
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give me permission to kiss it. He bends forward to kiss it.
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The holy man puts his hand out. He says kiss the hand.
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This is the stick of the prophet, but within me is the
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blood of so he's teaching him is so for the first one he's
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teaching him pic with this is teaching him a guide that if you
32:50
honor the stick of the prophet that I am the flesh and the
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blood in the home mini one. I mean all these narrations that
33:00
exist, right, Their blood is my blood.
33:01
Their flesh is my flesh in the mini one, I mean whom I am from
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them there for me. So he says kiss this instead.
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So what went wrong? It goes back to Sakifa.
33:15
The tendencies were there, their loyalties were there.
33:19
Yes, they learned alpha, they learned that, but at the same
33:23
time they were giving allegiance to the Khalafa.
33:26
Different reasons. I mean Imam Sadiq Ali Salaam
33:29
sect could have been much more popular and famous.
33:32
You know why? Because he was offered.
33:35
In fact when that buses came, they said you become the caliph.
33:40
Imam says no, you're not one of us and this is not the time for
33:44
it. There were others who were given
33:47
the position. Why don't you become the the
33:51
chief? The chief judge.
33:54
Judge or as you have the grand muftis today, right, you still
33:58
have the grand muftis, why don't you become the grand mufti?
34:02
It's a no problem, but you must give us baya.
34:05
So a lot of them gave baya and they became the muftis.
34:09
And that's something Imam Sadiq would never do because Imam
34:11
Hussein never did that and Ali Abdalib never did that.
34:14
Imam hasn't never did that. So why would you do that?
34:16
Sense what about the debates live on principles and values
34:19
and this is somethings they learn from their forefathers and
34:22
Sha Allah, this is something we also implement our lives, so
34:25
many settings that we see, especially over the last few
34:28
years. Say I want to ask something
34:30
about the Abbasid callous. You know, between the Omayids
34:34
and the Abbasids, there was like a transitional period.
34:38
I'm not going to say it was rosy.
34:40
It was a huge mess, but it was an opportunity for Imam Masada
34:45
to take a leadership role. If if we can say it like that,
34:48
right? He chose not to and he chose not
34:51
to take any role. Of course, he has his God-given
34:54
role, which is Imama, but any other role he didn't take.
34:58
Why? Why didn't he take the
35:00
opportunity? If he if he had some sort of
35:03
flexibility, I'm not going to say he, he had freedom to do
35:06
what he want, but he had some sort of legitimacy in the name
35:09
of the Abbasid who are saying come rule because we want the
35:14
the Helen Beta rule. If I'm not mistaken, that's what
35:16
how they came back into power as well.
35:18
That was an opportunity for him to, let's say, grow the Shiite
35:21
sects or bring back the son of Rasul Allah to a wider, bigger
35:25
audience. Why did he choose not to?
35:28
Is it a lost opportunity or is there wisdom behind it?
35:31
Well, there's definitely wisdom behind it.
35:33
Never a lost opportunity. Because I I say this, why?
35:37
Not because I believe it's a lost opportunity, but because we
35:39
had the conversation on the life of Imam Al Hassan a few weeks
35:43
back, would say the how much Shara.
35:46
And the question was, why did he do a peace treat with Mahalia?
35:50
But when you know the insurance and outs, you understand the
35:52
wisdom behind all. Yeah.
35:54
So why didn't the Imam take a position, a worldly position?
35:57
Yes. And you've answered it because
36:00
it was a worldly position, because of the mess that was
36:04
involved with him. So they wrote to him, actually.
36:07
Yeah, Abu Muslim who rose up for their bastards, he wrote to me,
36:13
said you be the read the ruler. But the problem is he didn't
36:17
just write to him. They weren't true to the Holy
36:20
Imam. They wrote to a few of the
36:22
elders of Banu Hashim Mamasada al his Salam.
36:26
They wrote to the grandson, one of the great grandsons of Imam
36:29
Hassan al his Salam from Hassan al Mufana and other elders of
36:36
Banu Hashim who were in the time of Imam Sadiq #1.
36:40
So they were not sincere to Imam Assad #2.
36:44
The Imam knew when he's, when they came to him, they said, he
36:47
says to them and to lay some in the region, you're not my men,
36:51
you're not my Shia. Because someone did ask that to
36:54
the Holy Imam. We have in narrations, why not?
36:56
Why, why not? Imam says they're not my Shia.
37:00
That was key. He fools to do that.
37:02
He would do that with his own Shia #1 #2 To work with the
37:10
tyrant is to be under the tyrant.
37:12
Yeah. Or to have a tyrant on your
37:15
team, even if you take leadership role, you still have
37:18
a tyrant on your team because they won't have it any other
37:22
way. They're not saying that we'll
37:23
step away and you come and do what?
37:26
Because otherwise they would have never done anything.
37:28
They would have just gone to the House of Imam Saudi Ali Salaam.
37:31
You lay your hand out and we'll give you bear.
37:35
It's not that the Imam knew you know, he knew the outcome.
37:40
This is not the right outcome. Is same thing with the Imam
37:44
Hassan Ali Salaam Imam Hussein, just give Bay I'll give
37:47
allegiance or do something in our you know, in our for us and
37:52
our support and then you're everything is OK, but they
37:54
wouldn't do that and also the Imam know this is a better
37:56
opportunity. I've got to do undo all of the
38:01
mess that has been coming from sat FIFA, so this is an
38:06
important point now it's. Generational.
38:09
Yes, Imam is now directly fighting the effects of Sakifa.
38:13
You might say what is Imam Sadhguru to do with Sakifa?
38:14
That's Ali Abdullah Ali Salaam Allah Ali and said I said that
38:17
Zahra Salaam Allah Ali Imam fighting directly the effects of
38:21
Sakifa, What were the effects? Don't write hadith Hezbollah
38:27
Kitaballah they said the book of God is enough.
38:31
Imam Saja has not write the hadith, write the olum.
38:37
So what did he do? He took this opportunity to
38:39
propagate the true Muhammadan, Alawi and Fatimi Islam, the true
38:46
Islam. And hence you find that he to
38:50
his students he would propagate his velaya numerous times.
38:54
They would ask him what is the greatest Nahma, would say
38:57
velayatuna a little bit. Once they asked him what is the
39:00
word Allah this Ismullah. I mean there's no word greater
39:05
than this word alif. Then you have the lambs and then
39:10
the ha. He says the alif this is his
39:13
tawi like this is directly from the imam.
39:16
Listen to this. He says the alif is Allah Allah
39:19
which is nama. He says what is the nama?
39:24
He says we laya and then the lambs that come follow the 2
39:29
lamb. He says the lamb is for Altizam
39:32
la Zim incumbent necessary wajib.
39:36
What is that? He says our willaya and then the
39:40
her at the end. He says that her is for halaqa
39:45
perish for who are done our enemies.
39:50
In other words, the name is more of a loss of hana.
39:53
Wataala is willaya of Hellu bait, Tawali and at the same
40:01
time a tabari. From the enemies of a little bit
40:05
Allah cannot be reached without Muhammad Ali, Muhammad.
40:09
So he took this opportunity to preach things like these to a
40:13
wheel of a little bit tough seal of a little bit Hadis was not
40:16
written. You remember Mamaya Salaam wrote
40:18
the tough seal of the Quran, the Quran Ali, Quran Ali, he wrote
40:23
it. He brought it to the caliphs.
40:25
They said we don't want it. Now was the time to teach that
40:29
to the people. So he used this time to try to
40:34
undo the damage of Sativa. Yeah, yeah.
40:37
Wow. A.
40:38
Lot to take in seconds. But then from there I also
40:42
thought, okay so this was a time to teach all those things that
40:46
the Imams before might have not been able to because of the
40:51
Abbas what no the Umayyad dynasty that was on top of them.
40:56
So is it true when we see Imam Jaffar Sadak Sam online Ali had
41:01
more freedom than his forefathers?
41:03
Or was there still a bit of takaya during his time, you
41:06
know, did he have freedom to teach whatever he wanted to to
41:10
his students? Or was there still, I can't say
41:13
this stuff. I know there's spies within my
41:16
own classrooms. No, the whilst the omegas and
41:19
the Abbas's are clashing and fighting, they're still aiming
41:23
to me and they're still trying to get catch me out.
41:25
Or was there? No did the the Imam see wait
41:28
whilst they fight each other? Let me strengthen the Ummah of
41:33
Muhammad, Al Muhammad, let me strengthen the ummah, and let me
41:36
teach them of all those things that they could have been taught
41:39
but weren't able to. If you get one.
41:42
Yeah, so they, he definitely did have an opportunity that the
41:45
other imams didn't have because of the the infighting between
41:50
the, you know, the bastards and the Omar Ween.
41:54
So he definitely had that time and like, and this what I said
41:57
in the beginning that this is the reason why he needs to be
42:00
studied the most because our narrations come directly from
42:03
him. The most narrations are from
42:04
Imam Asad al Kafi daheb, a list of SAR.
42:10
The most narrations are from who the 6th Holy Imam.
42:16
And despite this panel I did, you know, it brings me to the
42:19
point that just this, the fact that he has the most narrations
42:23
in our book and he's the teacher of Abu Hanifa and Malik, He
42:28
doesn't have a single narration in Bukhari.
42:31
Volub say this is Volub. It's hatred.
42:35
It's more than that that tells you something about Bukhari.
42:38
Again, it's another chapter we don't want to open.
42:41
But why did Bukhari not write a single hadith from Imam Asad
42:45
Ali, the teacher of them? There's so many narrations.
42:52
Even if you don't take him as an Imam, you take him as a
42:55
mujdahid. Put his narrations in there.
42:59
But anyway, so that was the answer really.
43:01
That was, you know, that was the time that the Holy Imam really
43:04
did. So he had that.
43:06
But of course there was the for the Shia, because you had the
43:10
likes of Mansour Mansour, who had killed so many Shia that it
43:20
is said that under his palace he had his, you know, his way, his
43:25
daughter Halafa, he had underground tunnels, which of
43:28
when he died, when they opened those rooms, there were skulls
43:31
in there. The whose skulls are these?
43:33
These are the Halloween that we've killed.
43:36
So there was always, I don't think there was any time that it
43:38
was without Takaya, but sometimes it was up, sometimes
43:41
it was down. With he used to appear in his
43:44
classes. Yeah, I like when he would
43:47
teach. He would teach.
43:49
We we would have to look at specific examples, but then that
43:54
would defeat the purpose of. Teaching what?
43:55
What about this hadith that we hear from Imam Assad that where
43:57
he says zapia is my religion and the religion of my forefathers?
44:03
What does he mean by that? Yeah, and one who does not have
44:05
Tapia does not have Iman. Yes, this is misused.
44:11
And and they say, look, you she has used Takia 24/7.
44:13
You're Imam. Yeah, yeah.
44:15
What is this whole hadith all about?
44:17
So the Takia really is there. It's not for it's not for the
44:21
Imam. Takiya is for the alarm is not
44:27
so much for otherwise you know, you know, which Imam did Takiya
44:30
really, which Imam did Takiya, which Imam ever prayed like
44:35
this? Which Imam you know did woohoo
44:42
the other way? Yes, there were certain times
44:46
they would say certain things for the followers.
44:48
Followers. For example, the hadith that
44:51
exist for Zorara, he's praised, but at the same time he's
44:54
condemned to save his life. OK, so there are certain
44:59
traditions that have crept up like this.
45:02
To save the life of the Shia is a Dean.
45:06
You know the Dean. So what does it say if you don't
45:09
have to? You don't have Iman, don't have
45:10
Dean. What is Tahrir?
45:12
Tahrir is basically the weapon of the oppressed, is the only
45:16
weapon I have as an oppressed person.
45:19
I'm going to get killed. I'm going to get, you know,
45:22
beheaded. If they find out, I'm going to
45:25
pray with the turba or they find out something in certain parts
45:30
of the world, OK. For that reason, the Imam
45:32
teaches them takiya. And takiya, by the way, is not
45:34
nifak. As I said, this is nifak.
45:37
It's not lying. It's not lying.
45:39
It's concealing your faith to safeguard yourself in the face
45:43
of a extreme takfiri enemy who's thirsty for your blood.
45:49
That's all it is, is it's not that we are changing our belief.
45:53
No, the heart still stays, stays full of Iman.
45:57
Yes, temporarily, just for the Muslim to protect himself, to
46:01
get out of this situation. You can save his life.
46:04
You know what's wrong with that? So much knowledge about.
46:12
A point of Tapia, we had a discussion on the ultimate
46:15
podcast like many, many months back, where we spoke about
46:19
Takiya when it came to Hamar al Nyah Salah al Allah, when he was
46:23
seeing his mother being tortured.
46:26
And then he came through the Salah and he said to him, you
46:28
know what I I said, I don't, I don't believe in God.
46:30
And then he asked him, what did your heart say?
46:33
He said he believed in God. So there's so much things to go
46:36
back to. Like even if you're not she and
46:37
you listen to this episode thinking about what is Takiya?
46:39
Was Takiya all about? Is there just ask the right
46:42
questions and there are episodes on the podcast are just right
46:45
Takiya and inshallah they will lead you to the right answers to
46:48
the questions you may have. Say there's a question and note
46:51
that I have down here that I wanted to ask, but I think it's
46:55
the right time to possibly bring it into the discussion.
46:57
Now people say there's a link between Imam Assadiq and about
47:04
Abdullah Bossein Alayhi Salaam. For us, the way I see it is Imam
47:11
Assadiq, he spent I think the first 1011 or 12 years on the
47:15
Imam Zena Abedin Alayhi Salaam. So he'd he'd see how Imam Sajjad
47:21
was affected by the events that took place in Karbala.
47:24
His father as a young man was in Karbala.
47:28
He'd see how his father would mourn and remember about
47:31
Abdullah Hussein on the plains of Karbala.
47:34
So there's a connection that I think we find where we can
47:39
fairly say that Imam Sadiq had the connection to his
47:46
grandfather, Imam Al Hussein. What is this link?
47:49
There was a question we asked the Ramadan where we said what
47:52
is the link between Leila Tadr and Fatmatizzahrah?
47:55
How we put the connection together?
47:57
What's the link between Imam Assad Alayhi Salaam and Imam
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Hussein Alayhi? Salaam, you can say he is the
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one, yeah. As I think the word I'm missing
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is Azadari of Imam Hussein. Right.
48:13
So in fact, he, you could say he is the one who established OK,
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the azadari or the Aza of Imam Al Hussein Salaam because the
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majulist begins in his house. You know, today when you have a
48:31
majulist, you have a lecture, you have somebody who recites
48:35
the the know how the Latam or an issue.
48:41
You know something for Imam Hussein Ali Salaam, the nai that
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exist in the time of Imam Asada Ali Saddam.
48:47
And we have narrations of that him in his house.
48:50
He would he would draw a curtain and he would have his the women
48:54
of a little beta, the women of the household would sit on the
48:56
other side of the curtain. He would sit on the other side
48:59
with a MENA and he would invite the reciter and he would say
49:04
recite for me something for my grandfather Hussein.
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And so there are there are names of certain Shara poets who would
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recite Cher. I've heard he was I've heard you
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recite Cher. Do you recite for my grandfather
49:20
Hussein? That gives you the that shows
49:22
you the importance of how much the Imams loved a poet who
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recites for Hussein Abdn Ali, one of them by the name of
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Jaffar Ibn al Fan. He would say, oh, Jaffar, I've
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heard you are a Shah, recite for me something for Hussein.
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And so he would recite for Imam Hussein Ali Salam.
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And he would say, I recited, I saw tears would begin to begin
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to flow from the eyes of Imam Asad al Salam.
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Then he I would end. And then Imam would say, no,
49:49
recite more. And then he was recite more and
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he said you'd cry with a loud voice and then I would end.
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And it's strange because then he says the third time, no, recite
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more. There's a message in this.
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The Imam did not want short majalis.
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You know this whole short majalis.
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Let's keep it as short and sweet 13.
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Minute 1. Very short, the amount in one
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short majalis keep going says do it again, keep going, he says.
50:22
Until I saw that he cried in a way that his, his shoulders
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would shake. You know, sometimes you cry and
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your shoulders move and he cried like that.
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And we would hear the ladies crying on the other side of the
50:33
veil, on the side of the curtain.
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So Imam establishes the azadaria.
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So this is the connection with Sayyudu Shohada about Abdullah
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Hussein, that he establishes it in his house.
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So the second message for us today is to hold majlis in your
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house. You know, they are brothers.
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And you know, I've recited a lot of majlis in a lot of homes.
50:55
Pan Allah, the mini do great, but they're still not mean who
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do not hold majlis in their homes.
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Hold majlis in your homes. This is a tradition that was
51:03
started by Alul Beit, not by the Shia of a Lil bait, by a Lil
51:08
bait themselves. Imam Rava Ali Salaam in his
51:11
house, dabel come and recite, OK, Imam Sajad Ali Salaam, you
51:17
would cry 30 years, he would see water, would cry #1 #2 whenever
51:23
Imam Ali Salatu Salaam would drink water, Imam Masada, that
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water would remind him of his grandfather.
51:31
He would say Salaam Ali Hussein and then he would say he would
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curse Allah, Allah and Yazidim in Waawi.
51:37
He would curse the killers and he says it to the to the rahui
51:41
of the hadith. Daoud ya Daoud.
51:43
When you drink water, remember Imam Hussein Ali Salaam because
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Imam Hussein wanted that. Remember in, in, in, in Karbala
51:51
and Ashura. When he says, Oh my yashi,
51:55
whenever you drink water, remember the thirst of Hussein.
52:00
So ABBA Abdullah Hussein Ali Salaam takes you directly to
52:05
Imam Assad, Imam Assad Ali Assalam takes you directly back
52:08
to Abdullah Hussain Ali Satos and this is that connection.
52:12
And every Imam said and whether they say directly or not, but we
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have from the Imams Laom Kayomi Kayaba Abdullah.
52:21
So he is the the founder of what we have to you know, when we go
52:25
to the Majali who should take and brother Yasser, you are
52:29
directly involved in the Hidma of the Majlis Al Hussein.
52:35
This is a, you know, this is a an ammo you should cherish
52:38
because these majalis you have today, they are directly the
52:43
result of the hard work of Jafar Saadiq Ali Salaam Imam Jafar
52:47
Saadi al Islam. What we have today is directly
52:49
from them. What a beautiful way to put it.
52:52
All my days you see it from a different perspective.
52:55
We Allah protect yourself. I'll say I've generally seen you
53:00
as well as yourself saying you know, the world of servitude and
53:05
service and it's like a we say it's a hammer on top of us,
53:09
right? It's like a tense.
53:11
It gives us Barack protects us or something gives life meaning.
53:15
I can't imagine life without any hidden.
53:16
I think life will be not worth living.
53:18
I'll be very honest with you say it.
53:22
I think if I can ask a question in relation to the martyrdom of
53:29
Iman Jafar Assad, that Khaliya Salah being the week of his
53:32
jihad, I don't think many people understand or know how the Imam
53:38
was killed. Oh.
53:42
Oh, sorry, said. Or maybe like, not just how,
53:44
but. Why, Yeah.
53:46
So I think the why is so long because if they gave change,
53:49
yeah. So if they gave him like so much
53:52
flexibility, if they gave him, you know, some freedoms to teach
53:57
and speak with the people and spend time with the Muslim Omar
54:01
and you know, have years and ample years until today,
54:05
Mashallah 10s of thousands of hadith for me, I'm Jafar Asadek.
54:08
Why suddenly less silencing? Why?
54:10
Why less poison him now? Like what happened?
54:12
Did he become a danger to the Abbasid dynasty?
54:16
And by the way, there's a point here, you know, you said we have
54:19
10s of thousands of hadith from the holy man.
54:22
Did you know our one book Al Kafi contains more traditions
54:29
than the books of Muslim and Bukhari and Terminus you put
54:33
together? Especially if you remove the
54:35
repeated traditions, for example Bukhari.
54:38
If you remove the traditions which are repeated same
54:41
traditions again and again, you probably have less than 4000
54:45
hadith Muslim similar. Whereas Al Kafi has 610 thousand
54:54
narrations, majority of them come from Jafra Assad.
55:01
That shows you how much I'll was spread from his holy tongue, his
55:06
holy mouth. And this is exactly what Mansour
55:13
could not take. His popularity was rising, his
55:16
students were increasing. And by the way, Mansour for many
55:19
years didn't touch, you know, OK, find that Omar, we and the
55:23
Abbasid fight that took place, that happened.
55:28
Now Khalafa Bani Abbas came. What were they doing?
55:33
All right, the movies are gone now.
55:34
Why don't you kill Mama Sadiq? Now you know what Mansour was
55:38
busy in. He was bit.
55:40
It is a historical point. He was busy in building the city
55:43
of Baghdad, but that was built by Mansour.
55:48
He was busy with that. He wanted to build a fine city,
55:52
a city known for his beauty, for his buildings, for his bridges.
55:55
Especially Baghdad is known for bridges.
55:59
And hence this, you know, they put the coffin of Imam Musal
56:02
Qadam on a bridge. Allah just really Baghdad,
56:05
right? It's known for bridges
56:06
historically. He was busy building that.
56:11
And so the Imam you, the popularity began to rise.
56:14
His students began to rise, the people around him.
56:18
And so they killed him like like they would kill any other imam.
56:23
It got to a point that they would realize that there is only
56:26
one way out of this is to kill, to try to extinguish the Noor of
56:33
Allah. And you cannot extinguish the
56:36
Noor of Allah. The Imam was Noor Allah.
56:38
They wanted to extinguish it like they did with the other
56:42
aim. And so even before that
56:44
actually, you know, before he, he was poisoned numerous times,
56:50
but the poison didn't take effect.
56:53
Did you know they burned the House of Mamasada Ali Salaam
56:56
twice, Twice his house was burnt in Medina.
57:02
I don't know what it is with the enemies of a little bit.
57:04
They like to burn homes. There was other homes burnt.
57:08
Homes. Tents, tents.
57:14
The house was said, the Zara. They burned the house and the
57:18
Imam came out onto his, you know, into his house and he
57:22
would say, Anabnu, araka, Sarah, Anabnu, Ibrahim Khalilah.
57:27
I'm the son of Ibrahim. I'm the son of Ismail.
57:30
You don't know who I am. And so eventually, it's not that
57:34
it was just quick poison done. They tortured him, they
57:37
oppressed him, they burned his house.
57:39
And he would cry and they would say to him, Abdullah, why do you
57:42
cry? You're safe.
57:44
Your children are safe. He says, yes, but I remember the
57:46
burning of the tent or Aunt Zeynab.
57:53
And so look at how Imam Masadhi takes us back to Karbala.
57:56
He cries, he remembers, say the Zeynab, when somebody comes to
58:02
him. And he says, Yabna Rasulullah,
58:03
Allah has blessed me with the daughter.
58:04
What have you named her? I've named her Fatima.
58:07
Again he cries, Fatima. Yeah.
58:08
Fatima, make sure you never slap your daughter because you
58:14
remember those laps. And so because of that Mansoor
58:20
now decided that it was time to poison the Holy Imam.
58:23
And so in the month of Shawal, the famous date is the 25th of
58:29
Shawal. I know some centres also do 15th
58:32
of Shawal. But 25th being the more famous
58:35
date is that the Holy Imam left this dunya and was buried in
58:40
Jannatul Bahi. And that's another.
58:42
This adds to the oppression that has just been 100 years
58:46
according to the Gregorian calendar, that the grave amount
58:51
Sada Ali Salaam still is without a Dome.
58:54
Why should you not have a Dome? The teacher of Yuri Mams, Abu
59:02
Hanifa and Mali, why can you not have a Dome?
59:06
Why can we not give that respect?
59:08
You know, I say this in this podcast tonight that I am proud
59:14
to be Jaffari because at least I can say my Imam was the teacher
59:18
of your imams, not vice versa. Every she I should take pride in
59:24
his identity. Every she I should be a proud,
59:27
you know, with the social media and podcasts and YouTube and
59:32
reels and all of that, what's happening in on on the Internet,
59:37
people are having difficult conversations and it's fine to
59:40
have them in a respectful, polite, scholarly manner.
59:45
And so we say respectfully that we are proud Jafaris.
59:48
We are proud as Shia of Jafar Asadeh.
59:50
It's not time to be shy anymore. There's no time to hide your
59:54
faith, proclaim your faith, say you're a Jafari.
59:58
How many times you, you know you?
59:59
How many times has happened with the youth when their
1:00:01
universities at work? You go into a prayer room, you
1:00:04
pray, they ask which must have do you follow?
1:00:08
I remember happened to. I'm sure it's happened to you,
1:00:11
your prayer with your colleagues, they may ask you or
1:00:14
somebody in the prayer will ask you which mother.
1:00:17
I used to pray in sixth form back in the days when I was
1:00:19
like, I think I was age 16, if I'm not mistaken.
1:00:21
And we'll always have issues, like we'll end up having debates
1:00:25
like, why you praying on a turbo?
1:00:26
Like, I wish, Why not suddenly like, you're right.
1:00:29
You're absolutely right, you know.
1:00:29
Take it with a pride. Today at work, my colleague
1:00:33
asked me why you wearing the ring?
1:00:35
I told him it's the son of us, Allah.
1:00:37
He says. Ah, that's, it's a Jeffrey
1:00:38
thing, right? That's how they think.
1:00:42
It's good. So he knows, yeah.
1:00:44
I didn't see those. They know they.
1:00:45
I didn't see those that origin here.
1:00:47
No, it's, I remember. They know, and let's remind
1:00:49
them. I've had the same situation and
1:00:53
people would ask which mother hub are you?
1:00:57
They want to give you a choice at times.
1:00:59
Are you humbly? Are you Shafi?
1:01:02
Or because we pray with the hands down.
1:01:03
Are you Maliki? You know why Malik prays with
1:01:07
the hands down? Because he preferred the
1:01:08
opinions of Ehlul Medina. Because in Medina I saw people
1:01:12
pray with their hands down. Abu Hanifa, you know, from Iraq
1:01:16
and Shafa is in Iraq and then Egypt.
1:01:19
I'm from Medina. People in Medina pray their
1:01:22
hands down. That Imam Masada Alayhi Salaam
1:01:25
is from the best household of Medina.
1:01:29
He's the chief of Medina. So take pride in the Jafari
1:01:34
faith that our Imam is the teacher.
1:01:37
And when do you pro? You cannot prefer the student of
1:01:39
the teacher #1 #2 is directly from the household of the
1:01:43
Prophet, direct descendant of the Prophet, and #3 his loom,
1:01:48
his, you know his chain. When Imam Masadhi would narrate
1:01:51
in his class, his chain was only three to four.
1:01:54
I heard from my father, who heard from his father, who heard
1:01:58
from Ali, who heard from the Prophet.
1:02:01
Whereas others would go left and right here and there, trying to
1:02:04
build a chain. The best, the best chain, as
1:02:07
they say. Yeah, the Golden Chain.
1:02:11
And they would say that if you narrate this on the majnoon, you
1:02:15
know his junoon would go. There's shifa in this, shifa in
1:02:19
this. Where do you find this Silsila?
1:02:22
Only with Imam Jaffar Sadiq. So take pride today when you
1:02:26
meet people on social media, take pride to be a job for you
1:02:29
have nothing to hide. In fact, we have more.
1:02:30
That's what I'm saying. There's famous history and these
1:02:32
are which are not discussed. We have so much gems to share.
1:02:35
You're so right saying that. So right.
1:02:37
There's so much more out there. There is there.
1:02:39
Are inshallah slowly, slowly inshallah you can bring it out
1:02:42
onto your your podcast. In Charlotte, we try our best.
1:02:45
We are doing this in Charlotte today with you saying that
1:02:47
yourself. In Charlotte, this is.
1:02:52
Say Mushtaba if I can ask, say Mushtaba in the background.
1:02:56
Our viewers are very used to your name by now.
1:02:58
As a Shiite, if I can ask you as someone who runs a Shia Muslim
1:03:03
platform content creation, do you think I'm going to ask you
1:03:10
like sincerity? Do you think you're 6 Imam?
1:03:14
Imam Jafar Assad is proud of the work that after Muslim is doing
1:03:18
in your own opinion? Difficult one.
1:03:22
Last shouldn't be difficult. I think for what we put out
1:03:30
there, there's still a lot more we can do.
1:03:32
Sense. Especially as a Shiite
1:03:35
community, we're not. I don't think we're, we've
1:03:37
reached our full potential. But if you want to say us as a
1:03:40
team, I think we're we're doing as much as we can.
1:03:44
OK. But there's still a lot more
1:03:46
that we can do. Sense.
1:03:48
No, you're absolutely right. You know, someone was asked me,
1:03:51
they were, they were saying, you know what, you guys are doing so
1:03:53
much. I was like, you think we do so
1:03:55
much. Well, there's so much that we
1:03:56
haven't done. And that's the madness about it,
1:03:59
is that. Like the the podcast for us was
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supposed to be just the the starting point to delve into a
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whole world of content creation. Yeah.
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Whether it's like different categories of podcasts or
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different styles of shows or vlogs or just general YouTube
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type of shows. But it's just it's so much work
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and obviously it depends on the viewers support.
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That's exactly why I asked the question.
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wisdom and your advice. There's so many things that I, I
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picked on that I never really thought about in, in in a deep
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sense, if I can say. And I there's definitely so much
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Salaam. And condolences to the listeners
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martyrdom of Imam Jafar Asadiq Ali Salaam said thank you for
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your time. Thank you Arthur.
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It's been an amazing Co hosting alongside you it.
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Was an honour to be with you once again, said.
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Thank you said for your. Allah bless.
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You. Well, honestly.
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I think I'll answer the question that I think Imam or Sadiq Ali
1:05:52
Salam would be very happy and proud of you both and all three
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of you, the whole team. Because anyone who says one
1:05:59
praise for the Imam, that does not go unrewarded or unanswered,
1:06:04
you send salutations on them, you send salams to them, they
1:06:07
reply to your Salaam. It's something you're doing to
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try to bring Imam Asad Ali Sato Salaam to the forefront.
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He deserves a lot more, a lot more time, a lot more podcasts,
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a lot more is out there. As I said, the longest living
1:06:21
Imam is going to have much more than one day of walada and one
1:06:24
day of Shahada. Very kind of Usain.
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Thank you. Allah bless you.
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Do you want to end today's episode?
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No, no, that's fine. But I'm just going to say, Ahmed
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Goku, hurry up, hurry up, come back.
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