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Red Sox can’t lose, Braves too, Did the Orioles rebuild fail? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Frasier Friday, and I mean it's not really Broctober yet,
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  Speaker 1: but Brad Brock with us too, and Todd Fraser of
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  Speaker 1: course it's Scottie Braun. What's up, guys, Todd father? So
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  Speaker 1: I want to start this way. Okay, you guys played
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  Speaker 1: with each other a little bit on the Mets. You
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  Speaker 1: know how you get a phone call or teams or
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  Speaker 1: players or somebody could get a phone call around the
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  Speaker 1: trade deadline? Hey, what do you got on this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 1: Good people? Give me anything else?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So, and you can't. You can't say just a great dude.
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  Speaker 1: You have to give me a little bit more. So
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  Speaker 1: tell me what you would have said if you got
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  Speaker 1: a quick call on Brad Brock, and then Brad can
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  Speaker 1: answer what he would have said about you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for me, it was simple. Balls of
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  Speaker 4: steel is what my first three words would have said.
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  Speaker 4: We would have went on from there. Jersey guy takes
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  Speaker 4: pride in what he does. He's gritty, he's gonna he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna wear his heart on his sleeve out there. He's
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  Speaker 4: gonna get angry when he's not doing well. But that's
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  Speaker 4: the grit inside of him. That's what he's born to
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  Speaker 4: do and that's where he's from. So you want a
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  Speaker 4: guy that's gonna be calm, cool and collective, or you
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  Speaker 4: want a guy that's gonna be balls to the wall.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna dominate you, let you know, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: get pissed off about it because I feel like I
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  Speaker 4: got more in the tank even after he does really good.
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  Speaker 2: I want you. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm the gym on the phone, I'm like Todd
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  Speaker 1: mids midway through your soliloquy, I actually already traded for him.
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  Speaker 1: That was beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: We got Brad Brock. Okay, Brad. Now I'm looking into
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  Speaker 1: Todd Frazier.
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  Speaker 2: What do you got?
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  Speaker 5: Oh man?
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  Speaker 6: What can't you say about Todd? He's uh, he's gonna
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  Speaker 6: go out there. He's gonna play every day, same thing.
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  Speaker 6: He's gonna wear his emotions on his sleeves. But at
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  Speaker 6: the end of the day, he's gonna play hard every
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  Speaker 6: single day in the clubhouse. He's gonna ruffle some feathers.
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  Speaker 6: Good and Dad both. Uh, you know, just kind of
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  Speaker 6: get the guys together and just everybody as a team.
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  Speaker 6: You're either gonna love him, hate him, or somewhere in
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  Speaker 6: the middle. But either way, you're gonna respect the way
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  Speaker 6: he plays and the way he goes about his business.
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  Speaker 6: So I found my GM. I want him on my team,
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  Speaker 6: and he's gonna help you win ball games.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be like our current club. Ass it's a little quiet,
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  Speaker 1: nobody sings this will help.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he definitely. Uh. He gets it loud, that's
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  Speaker 6: for sure. When he came over again in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously he knew all the guys at the Mets, but
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  Speaker 6: cloud Clubhouse got a little bit louder as soon as
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  Speaker 6: he showed it back up.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. I love him hate him in between. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that one hurt a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Damn, it's all you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's you. Andy, are gonna have a little talk after that.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't like that portion of the scouting, Well he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't like me, that's what he was saying.
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  Speaker 5: That's not true.
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  Speaker 1: That's media immediate. If they're media love, because I know you.
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  Speaker 1: If there's tough love, you're gonna you're gonna give it
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  Speaker 1: right to a youngster that might need to hear. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: hey buddy, you got to show up on time. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're all here. I need you to come here. So
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  Speaker 1: somebody might not like that, but they need to hear it.
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  Speaker 5: That's all.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you missed the part at the end about
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna respect him regardless.
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  Speaker 5: So it's you know, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't hear Yeah, not my white thing went off,
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  Speaker 2: my fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well let's get into some ball talk then,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. Let's see what you guys have for me
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  Speaker 1: on the Ale East. Let's charge.
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  Speaker 4: Let's charge out.
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  Speaker 1: The Red Sox are so smoking hot right now, Todd Father.
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  Speaker 1: So they've won eight in a row. They picked up
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  Speaker 1: another little sweep against the White Sox in a really
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  Speaker 1: fun back and forth battle. Since July third, they're twenty
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  Speaker 1: six and three. We are over a month from July third.
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  Speaker 1: It's August seventh, as we're doing this, twenty six and
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  Speaker 1: three since July three. Nobody saw this coming, And if
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  Speaker 1: anyone thinks they saw it coming, they're lying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is incredible. I gotta be honest with you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember before they all start breaking, know,
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  Speaker 4: they went on their little run, but like even before that,
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  Speaker 4: we're like, man, talk about a disappointment.
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  Speaker 2: And now you're looking.
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  Speaker 4: This, this is incredible and they're beating good teams, and
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  Speaker 4: they're going out there and dominating and they're finding ways
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  Speaker 4: to win. I mean even the close games with a
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  Speaker 4: lot of runs scored. Yesterday was a key example of
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  Speaker 4: that whole thing, not giving up, you know, going down
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  Speaker 4: four runs, coming back, finding a way to get it closer,
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  Speaker 4: even after a couple of mistakes, and you know, they
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  Speaker 4: go in extra innings.
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  Speaker 2: And win the game.
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  Speaker 4: This is the team that would never do that two
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  Speaker 4: months ago. I don't know, they're just finding ways to
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  Speaker 4: do it. Jaron Duran, there's been a lot of talks
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  Speaker 4: about him, and you know what his problems are.
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  Speaker 2: I think they like it.
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  Speaker 4: I think that online Contreras having fun being relaxed now
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  Speaker 4: after the whole big thing. I think that kick started
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  Speaker 4: everything once he got upset, you know, over a pitch
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  Speaker 4: and you know, a little trash talk. I think that
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  Speaker 4: woke them up. And you're seeing it right here. They're
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  Speaker 4: five games out of the Rays. I never thought that
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  Speaker 4: would happen the wild Card. They're doing really well there
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  Speaker 4: and this is a team that you probably if you're
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  Speaker 4: facing them right now on the plus, you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to see this team, you know, barring no injuries, as
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  Speaker 4: they move forward, and the guys are still cruising. This
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  Speaker 4: is a team you don't.
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  Speaker 6: Want to see, yeah, And I think it just kind
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  Speaker 6: of starts with the pitching side of things when you
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  Speaker 6: look at this starting rotation.
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  Speaker 5: They've kind of pitched.
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  Speaker 6: All year long, and they've really gone to another gear
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  Speaker 6: here in the second half and right before the All
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  Speaker 6: Star break, and I just think that's where it kind
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  Speaker 6: of starts. And the offense has met them, and I
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  Speaker 6: think when you put all that together, it puts.
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  Speaker 5: A good team out there, and they just.
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  Speaker 6: When you watch them play right now, it's almost like
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  Speaker 6: you have to turn their game regardless of the score,
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  Speaker 6: because they're either if they're behind, they're going to come
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  Speaker 6: back and tie and take the lead, or if they're ahead,
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  Speaker 6: you just want to buy how much they're going to win.
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  Speaker 6: And the back guys in their bullpen right now are
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  Speaker 6: just pitching lights out also, so.
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  Speaker 5: The game gets in the sixth inning, you have a
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  Speaker 5: Steve Hill to climb to come back.
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  Speaker 6: So Garret Crochet if he comes back before the season too,
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  Speaker 6: you just add another formidable arm in there. Adley Rushman
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  Speaker 6: just got traded over, so you're gonna be adding a
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  Speaker 6: great bat and a good leader. Behind the plate there also,
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  Speaker 6: So I just I don't see this team slowing down.
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  Speaker 6: And like I said, I just think it comes down
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  Speaker 6: to the pitching. You can see the stat there third
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  Speaker 6: in MLB in pitching er and I just think they
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  Speaker 6: do all the little things right. They play good defense,
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  Speaker 6: they run the bases well, they have speed, they can
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  Speaker 6: hurt you in stolen bases, they can take the extra
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  Speaker 6: base when they need to, and I guess that you
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  Speaker 6: when you kind of put all that together, it's just
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  Speaker 6: a winning ball club.
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  Speaker 5: And they're just they're fun to watch right now.
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  Speaker 1: And Todd Father, we were just showing the stat line
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  Speaker 1: on on base percentage for some of their leaders. And
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  Speaker 1: Wilson contrast, didn't play yesterday. I think he's got some
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  Speaker 1: sickness something that stay to day where he'll be back soon.
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  Speaker 1: Three ninety five on base percentage. The first baseman for
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox can pick it too. He's become a
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  Speaker 1: really good defender, and he's just overall now one of
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  Speaker 1: the best first basemen in baseball. It was a brilliant
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  Speaker 1: off season pickup. I remember when we were talking about it,
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  Speaker 1: I think around winter meetings, because when we were discussing
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  Speaker 1: the Mets and how they can recover from a Pete
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  Speaker 1: Alonzo departure I brought up. I was like, man Wilson
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  Speaker 1: Contreres could fit a spot. They ended up going more
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  Speaker 1: of the Jorge Polanka ro out. My gosh, look at
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  Speaker 1: the difference between those two players. Planco. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: been hurt a bit, but is nothing close to what
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  Speaker 1: Contreras is contributing to this team. Emotionally of course, but
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  Speaker 1: also on the field. I mean he gets on base
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  Speaker 1: four to ten times.
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  Speaker 4: And think about this, like we talk we I don't
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  Speaker 4: know now, but talking about this back in the day,
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  Speaker 4: you see catchers all the time take ground balls during
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  Speaker 4: batting practice and fundamentally sound. They're digging in their dirt,
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  Speaker 4: they're getting their cleats in the dirt. They're knocking balls down.
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  Speaker 4: They're not afraid of getting in there and knocking a
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  Speaker 4: ball down. And think about first base, hot shot, find
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  Speaker 4: a way to knock the ball down, get the guy
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  Speaker 4: out picking baseballs. They do it all the time on pitches,
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  Speaker 4: and Wilson Contreras has been phenomenal. Not the tallest guy.
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  Speaker 4: I would be looking for a taller guy. But if
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  Speaker 4: you know how to throw the ball, across the diamond,
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  Speaker 4: you're good. And he's proved that height doesn't matter over there.
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  Speaker 4: He's plenty fine of doing his job and making the
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  Speaker 4: plays and knocking baseballs down. So kudos to him too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brad, I know you mentioned the pitching first
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  Speaker 1: time around, but next go around here the offense has
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  Speaker 1: completely changed. I mean we were looking at their offense
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  Speaker 1: like where's the pop, where's the scoring at home? All
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  Speaker 1: of that has gone away, and we've seen guys like
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  Speaker 1: Rafaela take off, Willi or Bray is really clutch for them.
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  Speaker 1: All of this, plus I know we're not relying on it.
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  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony could come back at some point this year.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's taken him a super long time to
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  Speaker 1: sit out right now, and it was kind of a
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  Speaker 1: weird injury diagnosis, but he could come back right It's
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  Speaker 1: much quicker in terms of the progress for a position
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  Speaker 1: player than it is for a pitcher. If a pitcher
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  Speaker 1: is in trouble at this time of year, and they're
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  Speaker 1: not even getting going with progressions, like they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to be giving you six innings in October. But Roman
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  Speaker 1: Anthony was supposed to be the best hitter on this team.
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  Speaker 1: Entering twenty twenty six, they in fact, probably were relying
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  Speaker 1: on him too much and now they haven't had to.
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  Speaker 1: But if he does come back, that changes things.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah big time. I mean, you think about what he
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  Speaker 6: did during the WBC and you had that bad to
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  Speaker 6: this lineup and is the World World Series contender. I
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  Speaker 6: can't help but keep thinking about that, I know, back
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  Speaker 6: in April, and may you be like, you're crazy to
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  Speaker 6: think that, But this team has really turned it around.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Femway Park last night, if you haven't to
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  Speaker 6: turn that game on, it was absolutely rocking and the
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  Speaker 6: players just did everything to win that game. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: they get down by two in the tenth and come
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  Speaker 6: back and score two to tie, then they score one
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  Speaker 6: in the eleventh and then the twelfth. It's just it's incredible.
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  Speaker 6: Right now. You just think that they're always going to
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  Speaker 6: come back and they always are there. But like you said,
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  Speaker 6: if you can add Roman Anthony to the middle of
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  Speaker 6: that lineup, man, this is a scary team to look
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  Speaker 6: at here moving towards October.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's finish with this, Todd Father. How
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  Speaker 1: good are they?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So we're seeing them play their best ball at this point.
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  Speaker 1: In the season. They're very firmly in a nice position
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  Speaker 1: for a wild card seat. At the moment, they have
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  Speaker 1: an outside chance at the division. Do you think this
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  Speaker 1: is a team that's going to be a problem in
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  Speaker 1: October in an American league that's really down in general
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, coming in, you thought the Yankees were the
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  Speaker 4: team to be as usual, you know, looking at numbers,
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  Speaker 4: looking at teams, you thought the Orioles were going to
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  Speaker 4: make a move.
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  Speaker 2: That's not happening. The Tiger is not happening. The Mariners,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we talk about them all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is gonna be This is gonna be really
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  Speaker 4: hard to decide. You've got to see who's healthy come
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  Speaker 4: playoff Game one. But again, I think this is one
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  Speaker 4: of the top teams.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: It's so funny how we're talking like this. The ebbs
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  Speaker 4: and flows of the years, people wrote this team off
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  Speaker 4: and now it's like, whoa, you don't want to be
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  Speaker 4: facing this team anymore. They're clicking at the right time.
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  Speaker 4: So yes, you want to. You face this team opening round,
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  Speaker 4: You're in for a dog fight. So I think there
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  Speaker 4: is an opportunity for this team to make a run
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  Speaker 4: a big run.
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  Speaker 1: And Brad for you the same question, but also to
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  Speaker 1: add to it, just because you've seen him, You've got
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  Speaker 1: your Birdland territory show, you're covering the Orioles more than
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  Speaker 1: any other team. Can you tell me what you think
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  Speaker 1: the impact could be from Adlee Rutchman when he returns.
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  Speaker 1: And also, I know you're not going to play doctor,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, just giving us a rundown of what
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  Speaker 1: he's been going through this year. I know, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is his third I Elston right now.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think when he comes back, it's just gonna
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  Speaker 6: add another lineup guy, but also somebody who knows how
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  Speaker 6: to handle a pitching staff, starters, relievers, everybody. He's such
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  Speaker 6: a leader back behind the plate and he's got a canon,
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  Speaker 6: so you pretty much eliminate the running game and that's huge.
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  Speaker 6: Come October baseball, and I think he's he's on the
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  Speaker 6: way to recovery.
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  Speaker 5: He's had a couple of weird injuries this year.
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  Speaker 6: He had a concussion where an Aaron throw hit him
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  Speaker 6: in the helmet as.
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  Speaker 5: He was running the first base, so that was unfortunate.
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  Speaker 6: This last one is kind of a risk injury that
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  Speaker 6: there was really no details.
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  Speaker 5: It just said they were it was kind.
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  Speaker 6: Of bothering him for a little bit, and that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of where they left it up until he got traded.
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  Speaker 5: So it sounds like.
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  Speaker 6: He's getting ready to do his rehab and I just
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  Speaker 6: think when he gets over there, he's going to be
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  Speaker 6: in the lineup every day and being a switch hitter
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  Speaker 6: at Fenway Park, especially if you're a left you can
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  Speaker 6: hit it off the monster. If you're righty, same thing,
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  Speaker 6: you can hit it over the monster. So I just
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  Speaker 6: think that ballpark really plays well for his style of
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  Speaker 6: baseball and especially his hitting side.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, last thing, so, Craig Wrestler received a ton of heat.
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  Speaker 1: We've given him heat on this show, and there have
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  Speaker 1: been stories about how he has evolved into the role.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you judge people on the role a little bit
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  Speaker 1: too soon. Well, some radio stations up in Boston were
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  Speaker 1: given it to him, and one of them received a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a mic drop.
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  Speaker 2: Back, Craig.
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  Speaker 7: There are some who listen to this show who believe
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  Speaker 7: that I have not issued a suitable enough apology for
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  Speaker 7: a brief period of skepticism about how you do your job.
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  Speaker 7: So first and foremost, I have apologized that wasn't good
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  Speaker 7: enough or should I go deeper.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to.
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  Speaker 3: Stand in the way if you want to continue.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, there are some who after last week felt
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  Speaker 7: like you actually don't like me and I I.
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  Speaker 5: Just I don't think you like him at all.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't get that feeling.
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  Speaker 7: I enjoy Thursday mornings when I got to grab a
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  Speaker 7: cup of coffee, sit at the desk and call in.
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  Speaker 7: So listen, I apologize for not believing. There was a
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  Speaker 7: point where I didn't believe. I believe now I apology.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an error message.
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  Speaker 1: That's the Greg Hill Show on wee I that's fun.
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  Speaker 1: I love that little personality from Craig. I've pointed this
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  Speaker 1: out his quotes. They're changing too sometimes, like yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: the intel here and the way that someone slicing up
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  Speaker 1: the Curtis meat for Connolly early trade. Okay, and I
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  Speaker 1: know me got hurt, but he's like, we had a need.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with Retchmond. Imagine showing this to a Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox fan back in April this week, tweeted out yesterday
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  Speaker 1: slaying Giants last thirteen games against division leaders, they're thirteen
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  Speaker 1: to oh over seven runs per game. They have been
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous right now, really in every facet of the sport. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Todd father, back to you. We're just going to mix
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  Speaker 1: in during the breaks. Here some other thoughts on teams.
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  Speaker 1: So the Reds just swept the A's as it's been
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  Speaker 1: a mess. They lost eight in a row and tumbled
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  Speaker 1: out of this. I'm not saying the Reds are in
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  Speaker 1: the wildcard race. They are four games back. I just
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  Speaker 1: think it's funny. They got smashed to pieces for doing
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  Speaker 1: nothing at the trade deadline, and I think that's fair
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  Speaker 1: right because they're like, oh, well we kept guys going,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: feel like the offers were enough. Well, the guys are
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: going to be free agents. So if you're selling, then
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: sell the guys, and even saving money is important to them.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: But but there are four games out of a wildcard spot,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: the Pirates spot. They're four and a half games out.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: I know the Cardinals sold their three and a half,
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Marlins are three. I get it. It's not likely that
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: they're going to catch up to the Diamondbacks of the Padres,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: but it's not out of the question that they could
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: do it. So it's funny their lack of being able
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: to sell it the deadline might actually like keep them
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: close in the wildcard rains right.
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: Keep them relevant of course. Yeah.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: I mean the Hunter Green thing is oh god, that's killer.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love, I want this got to be healthy.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Him and Chase Burns together are going to be absolute
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: dynamic duo.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: There.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there, they're there.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: But again, when there's three or four teams in front,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: there's a lot that has to go. But again we've
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I've said this over and over. If you worry about yourself,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: you go on a fifteen game, twelve and three or
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: a thirteen or yeah, or a thirteen and two like
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: something crazy, you're going to be right back in it.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: There. Do they have the firepower? I'm not sure.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: You know, they got to win these close games. South
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: Stewart has been phenomenal. Eli de la Cruz keep on
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: kind of getting there. He's going to be a superstar eventually.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: And until he figures just a little bit more out.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: A couple guys got injured, Steer Matty McClain man, we
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: need we like I say, I'm on the team, they
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: need him to get going more. I mean, I think
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: the injury bug has got to this team. But again,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: with Tito Francono over there, there is no way I
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: would say this team is ever out.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Hot corner time. Let's hit the Braves for a moment.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: The fan base Braves Country has been livid in regards
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to their trade deadline. As far as the on field production,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: pretty good. They've won fifteen of twenty since the All
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Star Break. They've won eight games in a row, so
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: they're fighting for one of those by spots in the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: National League. Right they've got a chance at picking up
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a bye. You know them, the Brewers and the Dodgers
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: seem to be the teams the most in the mix here.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: But they pummeled Miami eleven three and they swept them.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Akunya hit two home runs. Brad, curious to get your
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the Braves now and the Braves in October.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: It's great to go on a run like this. I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: think the Braves are one of the best teams in baseball.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: I think most people would agree with that. Do you
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: think that the rotation will be enough? And we did
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: learn that they were looking into Schoogle. They would have
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: given up guys like aj Smith, Shauber and Jare Ritchie.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That was included in Ken's notes that he just spoke
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to us about they went for him, They went for
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: de Grom. They didn't really like anyone else. I mean,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: they like Tyler Maley. So he's gonna start for them
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: against the Yankees to open up that series. But where
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: are you at with the Braves.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's gonna be interesting to see.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: I think obviously you have number one with Sale, he's
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: gonna pitch the first game. You hope you get the
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: win from there. But from there, Bryce Elder really good
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: young pitcher. He's had a couple of really good years
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: these last couple of years, so you got to think
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: he's gonna pitch Game two. But once again, I think
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: it goes down to their bullpen. I think they're gonna
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: be more of a the Star is gonna go out
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: there and hopefully get us one one and a half
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: two times through this lineup, and then we're gonna hand
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: the ball over to the bullpen. I think those guys
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: that they have down there can pitch a lot of
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: multiple innings in high leverage spots, and I think it's
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: just gonna be more of a try to piece the
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: games together from there. I don't think they're gonna lean
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: too heavily on the guys in the rotation outside of sale.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: So I just think it's go out there, give us
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: as many outs as you can, and we'll get it
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: to the big arms in the bullpen and let the
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: offense kind of do their things. So I just it
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: always seems to be the way with the Braves. They
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: don't make these big, splashy trades, but they had these
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: guys that somehow show up in October and it's just
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: a team you can never right off.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: And it's just funny.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: Because they had a little a little bit of a
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: bad stretch here during the season, but they're one of
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: the best teams of baseball and they have been record
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: wised all season long. And I just think it goes
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: to show with the ebbs and flow of the season,
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: and I just think in October now it's such a
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: sprint to the finish that you get guys hot and
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: you get a couple of rotation guys and you're set
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: for October.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: And that's basically what the Bravest seemed to do every single.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yearn Yeah, I mean I think he said everything of
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: the nature. It's a team that you can't take lightly.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: You don't hear much about Ronal o'cunya junior as much.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You know, it hasn't been you know, from injuries, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: a two homer game. He had that awesome home run
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: that you know, two outfielders ran into each other yesterday
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and the ball popped out of the glove, which was
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: really cool way of hitting a home run. But yes,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: he hasn't even hit his full stride. I mean, there's
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: guys there that have been there before. This is a
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: really veteran based team in my opinion, and I love
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: everything about that. Knowing that they're winning their games, They're
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: doing just fine. They're cruising right now. When I need
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to step up, I think as a veteran team, I
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: think they will.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this weekend they're going up against the Yanks.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: They got Molly on Friday, Chris selgo Saturday. Just give
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: them an extra day there, and Grant Holmes, I mean
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Todd when they won in twenty twenty one, it's not
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like they were loaded with starters, so they had Freed
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: or with Freed hurt that year. I'm forgetting No Freed
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: was good. Charlie Morton got hurt during the World Series, right,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: and then you had Tyler Anderson the Tyler Anderson. Am
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I getting the name right there? Why am I blank?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Tyler Anderson was the left.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Now that's the gosh, I'm already forgetting the name. Somebody
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: in life, please help me out pretty quickly, or don't.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Who's the dude that freaking shined that year?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Somebody while you at the end.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: No, but while you're thinking about that, they they just
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: it's about getting hot at the right time. It doesn't
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: matter the players you have. Once you get hot, you
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: want to step up, whether you're pitch or a hitter.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: You kind of cling to that all my turn. Hey
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: you're next.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I hit the ground out and got the guy over.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Now pick me up. Those little things that all of
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: a sudden you're like, oh, yeah, we knew from the
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: get go this team was going to be like.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: This, But no, you didn't.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: They got hot and they figured out a way to
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: be the best team in Major League Baseball.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ian Anderson. See I was close, I kept saying,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Tyler ian Ian Anderson who at the time. I mean,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they had a lot of promise and just kind of
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: fell off and that was that was the time though,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: when they needed him. Game one was more in Remember
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: he got hurt, Max Freed Game two, Ian Anderson Game three,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Freed pitched Game six when they won. In between that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: bullpen game with Dylan Lee and then that was game four,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: bullpen game with Tucker Davidson. That was game five, right,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: So had I guess the Braves are looking at recent
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: pass and know it was five years ago, but it
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't fifty years ago, and said, hey, we kind of
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: had two and a half starters there come World Series
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: time and we still won.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. And I know being there.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: I was there in eighteen when they won the first
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Division title and it was kind of the same thing.
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: It was just we're gonna piece something together here and
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: hopefully get through it. It was those guys were really young
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: at that time, so we struggle with the Dodgers in
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: that first series. But all these guys have gotten older
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: and they're still they're still there, so it's not like
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: they need to go find something crazy to find the
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: formula to win a World Series. It's like Todd said,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: it's getting hot at the right time and having your
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: offense get enough runs and just get a couple innings
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: from each guy, and that's really all it comes down to.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: You don't have to.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: There's really I think the days of seeing the starter
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: go seven shutout in the playoffs is almost gone. So really,
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: when it comes down to starters, we keep talking about
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: starters over and over again, but we have rarely seen
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: teams throw their starters out there seven eight innings in
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: the playoffs anymore, or so I just think they they're
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: they're in a spot that they like, and the way
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: they do things in Atlanta is just what.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: They've done forever. You go out there, you play the game.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: We're gonna have the same lineup every day, and we
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: need our guys to hit and our pitchers to get
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: outs when they're when they're called. And it's kind of
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: been their formula, I feel like since the early nineties.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: So it's really not much has changed in Atlanta.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're doing this, You're right, Todd Father, with
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: what eleven home runs this season from Ronald Acuna Junior.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the whole thing with them has been, you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: they've tried slow playing it at times because the first
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: time he came back from the major knee surgery, they
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: felt like they, you know, maybe he rushed. He's one
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: of those guys I will say that loves playing, he
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: loves being on the field. He's trying to raise his
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: hand and play winter ball.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: All that, right, So they playing over the fall and winter.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when they're like, I don't want touch of baseball
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Slow down, slow down, but whatever, I mean, it doesn't matter.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Now we've got two months left in the regular season
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and October coming through. Can we get the Ronald that
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: we're used to seeing here?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I hope. So it's good for baseball for sure.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talking Orioles for a moment here, because we've got
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: our Orioles specialist today in Brad Brock. So tell me
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: where the teams at. We'll get to more of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: big picture in this next conversation, but tell me where
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the team's at here. So zach Nato hit a big
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: three run homer helps the Angels take down the Orioles
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in the game and in the series where we at
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: on Baltimore post trade deadline with some key guys gone.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think they they won this series.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: That's all. That's the positives that come through that. With
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: a lot of emotions. I mean, all the players were
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: pretty candid about how emotional they were about everything that
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: was going on with the trade of Adley, and this
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: group has really been together for six, seven, eight years
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: now through the Miners and the Major so I just
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: think it's gonna be more of a long term answer.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: It's gonna be you're gonna have to wait to see
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: the fifty games to kind of judge what group they
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: have left. I don't think it's gonna be a you know, one, two,
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: three series thing that you're gonna understand what kind of
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: team they have. There's just there's pieces missing right now.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: There's been a bunch of injuries this year, so I mean,
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, they're still there with
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: the standings and the American League is kind of allowing
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: that this year, So I think trading away of those pieces,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: getting some of the prospects that they were pretty excited
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: about is exciting moving forward, But we just don't know
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: where it's going to leave this team for the rest
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: of the season. But standings are dictating that they're still
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: in it. But they have a couple of big series
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: coming up here against the Rangers and the Twins that
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: I think are really going to determine which direction this
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: team is going to move for the rest.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Of the year.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they won this series against the Angels, dropped
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the prior series, lost two out of three to the Phillies.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Baltimore is still in the wildcard Max,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: who you like it in the wildcard mix right now?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Todd Father, we went over this yesterday because Krats and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: AJ were kind of making fun of it, like, well,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: most of the wildcard contenders in the American League sold
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: or held.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I don't like Baltimore, that's for sure. I mean Lesson
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: and I don't want to meet. I don't want to
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: come off rude or arrogant. But Scotty, you know how
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I was a couple of years ago they should have
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: got rid of all their prospects. Then they got a
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: plethora of guys and I'm like, wow, they're they're doing
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: some stuff and now, oh man, here we go. I'm like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: you know, it is, it is what it is. Love
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Peter Alonzo. He's one of my favorite players that ever
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: play with. I like the Red Sox. I like either
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Yankees or raised Red Sox, whoever wins that division. The
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: other two I think are getting in and then we yeah,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: this one, this one's tough because there's a whole bunch
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: of teams. Did the Blue Jays find a way?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yes? What do you think run?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: They might finish stronger.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they don't count it out Mariners, I'm
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: not sure. It's hard.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Show me the money, all right.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So let's go over this article from Brittany Gioli and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the title is competitive windows don't always cooperate. MLB teams
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: should act like it. Apparently it really resonated within the sport.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: There are many people that work in front offices besides
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: just the leader of the front office or the owner, right,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you work for a team and you're like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: are we going for now? I thought we were waiting
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for this moment? And it's fickle too, like it could
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: pop up, it could go away, it could come back again. Right. So,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: using the Blue Jays example, Todd fil they made it
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to the World Series. He got as close as you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: could get to winning a World Series. And this year
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things are on the rocks. They might not make it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that the window doesn't open back up again.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I guess the.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Point is when you look at where you're at during
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a season, you got to push chips in. Sometimes the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Red Sox are a good example. Of that, right, they
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: pick up Addley Rutchman, we talked about them earlier. But
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: also even a guy like Eric Miller, and you trade
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: away Marcelo My I haven't seen a ton of him
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: in the big leagues yet, and the Red Sox decided,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you know what, we have a chance to get a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: guy who can really help us in the playoffs. The
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: San Diego Padres. We talked about them a few times
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Todd. Yeah, I mean the teams.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Will look at them and be like, oh, well, they
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: just traded all their dudes away, so they can't stay competitive.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: We've been saying that for a while now. Have they
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: won a World Series with it?
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: No?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But but have they stayed competitive the whole way through
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: despite trading away a lot of what they have in
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the cupboard cupboard?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, they definitely have. And I think they're they've
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: given it a good try. I mean, you think about
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the best closer in baseball in Mason Miller, they picked
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: him up. I just love everything about GERROLI. I think
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: she's hysterical. I think she understands, you know, when to
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: be serious and what not to. She talks about small
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: market teams and I think for me, This is what
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I say all the time, like why why can't they
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: make a splash?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Some of them have.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: But at the same time, you can't blame it on
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: being a small market team when everybody has an opportunity
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: to pick up everybody else. So the deals they make,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: they can get rid of some prospects, if not some
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: of the best, to get you know, some veteran or
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: a guy that's been in Major League Baseball and knows
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: what he's doing to help the team out, club morale, culture,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. There's no excuse. And I
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: think in the article she kind of understands that and
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: hits that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Very well, Yeah, Brad, I mean we're gonna rely on
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: you for the Orioles help. Here Brittany is dialed in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: on the Nationals and the Orioles among other teams, but
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that's like her area, right, And she pointed out, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: four years ago, the Orioles said, hey, it's time for liftoff.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: They did the five year scrap it all down to
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the absolute studs, go through the pain, one hundred plus
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: lost seasons, and then I feel like the window opened
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit sooner than they thought, and then it's
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: not closed but it's never like banged completely open and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: put them in a position where they feel really comfortable.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And they have not won a playoff game during this run,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: So what's the what's the feeling out there among the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: fan base. I'm trying to focus on them too, Like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the fan base was waiting. They were promised something, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: it's not like they haven't been competitive, but you look
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: at really one shiny season and then the rest has
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: looked disappointing.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that's kind of the sentiment from
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: all the fan bases. That's just disappointing. It's frustrating. They're
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: just where are we going? And now it's back kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: of to the you know, Fangrass came out this week
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: and now they have the number two ring system, but
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: I think they're just kind of sick of hearing about
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: having the top rated farm system and not having wins
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: at the big league level. They went out, they got
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: peda lines of this offseason. They signed Chris Bassett, so
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: they're started. They put more money on the field, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: the results just haven't been there, and I just think
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: they're just kind of disillusioned. Almost at this point, it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: you've told us this one plan that's supposed to happen.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: They go out, they win the division. You think it's
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: going to be this five year period where they win
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: the division every year they have a shot to go
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: to the World Series, and they backtracked every single year.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: So I just think it's at this point they don't
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: know what, like what they're saying, is it true, is
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: it false? Like I think they're just kind of and
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: especially after this week, I think it's really hard to
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: get a feel for what the fan base is feeling
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: because I just think they're all over the place. They
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: don't know what to think, they don't know what the feel,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: and I don't know if the GM and the front
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: office is helping them at all, because I think it's
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: kind of like a, well, we kind.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Of reloaded, we're good moving.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Forward, but you said that five years ago and now
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: we're at the same spot we were even before that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: So it's just kind of a very confusing and frustrating
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: part in Birdland right now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the team feels like it's in the middle, and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: even leading up to the deadline, Brad, I don't think
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: anybody really had a good feeling of where they were going.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And I get it your sub five hundred nine and
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: by game or two whatever it was at the time,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: four games you should sell in most cases, although this
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: year the Ale wild Card is going to just be
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at least the third one, probably an up for grab
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: situation for Baltimore. I guess my problem is that sometimes
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I feel as if the comments have more to do
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: with what they can get back into trade versus what
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they want to do. You know, I'll try to This
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is probably not a good analogy, but you know how,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's like a pitcher is going I'm going to
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: use my best stuff to get this guy out, or
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going to play to the weaknesses of the hitter,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and that could be two different things.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that with the front office,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: where it's like, wait, are you going to play to
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: your strength in your time to shine as a team
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: when you're self evaluating, or are you going to say,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: what does the market think of my players? They like them, Okay,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I'll trade a few of them away. And what that
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: does is, yeah, it adds up prospect to the prospect
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: covered or even the major league team, right, the projected
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: wins and all that, But does it add up to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: where you are at as an organization right now.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a great way of putting it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: It kind of put it almost feels like they're playing
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: on their heels as opposed to making the moves to
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: be aggressive to make their team better.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: And I think ADLEI the Alley trade was a perfect example.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: It's it was, we're going to put feelers out there
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: and if we get a deal that blows us away,
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: then we'll make it. It wasn't like we're going to
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: add to this team and stick to that plan regardless
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: of where the record's at, because the thing is a
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: lot of these guys were under contract moving into next
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: season too, So even if you were able to add
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: at the deadline, this is going to help for this
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: year and moving forward. But I just think of that
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, they wanted to do
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: a shake up, and I think trading Ali kind of
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: put a stamp on this era of baseball in Baltimore
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: that was supposed to be the you know, comeback after
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: kind of tanking there those couple of years. And uh,
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: the way your analogy was perfect, though, I just think
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of times, well let's see what we
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: can get as opposed to let's go out and get
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: it and try to win. So it's it's definitely got
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: to be a different, uh, you know, just philosophy that
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: they might need to start using now if they're really
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: going to start trying to win ball games at the
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: biggest level.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Well, then you know, I'll ask this question of both
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: of you. Todd, First, you both know the race pretty
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: well in the American League East. They picked up a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: catcher who can hit. Liam Hicks actually hasn't caught as much,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: but a catcher who can hit. Right, They picked up
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta. Not a good first start, but I think
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: most people feel as if that was a nice pickup
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: for the team to add to the rotation. And then
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Tyler Wells maybe yeah, maybe Todd father's disagreeing with me here.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, okay, well, do you feel like
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the Rays did what they should have done at the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: trade deadline? And do you think this is maybe the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: best chance for the Rays to win a World Series
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: title in a while. Yes, they were in a World
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Series in twenty twenty a COVID shortened season, a little
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: bit of a different world against LA. But right now,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: you look at the Rays they're in control of the division.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: The American League is down this year. They've got star
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: power in the rotation and at the top of the lineup.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like the Rays did everything they could
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: at a time when right now the organization is really humming?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this a case of less is more?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: They were doing so well, did they really need to
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: make that many moves?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, of course you need to bolster your lineup
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: when needed. Definitely. I'm not saying they shouldn't have.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: But the way they were playing, is is it something
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: that maybe we should have just left left the way
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: it was, you know, maybe picked up a reliever or
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: a pitcher there, which they did. I don't know. I
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: think they got better for sure. I love Liam Hicks,
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: love him. You know, he wasn't really catching, as you said,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: he was kind of the backup, maybe even to the
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: backup over there with the Marlins.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Freddy Peroulta, I mean, this is a team.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: That can figure things out with a guy who's been struggling,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and I think once they do, hopefully he comes back
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: and is the number one guy that he was with
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the Brewers at some time. So is it a case
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: then less there's more. Is this going to help or hurt?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: It should help, But at the same time, the Race
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: have a good culture there and good understanding of how
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to win with the team they've had. But again, they
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: did pick up some really good nuggets there, so we'll
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: see how it goes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Let's hit on Deck presented by a Fox one and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: look at some games this weekend you can find on
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Fox and the Fox one app. So there's that Guardian's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: White Sox, a little back and forth that will also
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: include Ozzy Gian in the booth for an inning. AJS
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on that game. Ken's on that game. I want to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: start actually with the Orioles and Rangers. First, it's Kyle
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Bradish scheduled to go against Jacob de Gram. That's a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: pretty nice looking pitching matchup. And where are the Oriols
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: at with their rotation? I know they locked in Bradish
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and Shane Boz for the long term Brad, so this
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: is one of the good ones there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, Kyle brad As she came back from
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Tom and John looking really great and they locked him up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: It's one of the first times Oros have ever done
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: that in team history. So to get him solidified here
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: for five years after this year. He's a great move,
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: but the starting rotation has been the strength of this team.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: It's been a surprising lack of offense for this team
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: so far. And Kyle bradsh is kind of at the
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: head that Trevor Rodgers has been pitching phenomenal for two months.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: He went through a little bit of a.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Stretch early on in the season where he struggled, but
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: he's right back on the top of his game. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: it's been a very heavy starting pitching strength for this
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: Orioles team, and Kyle Bradis is right at the top
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: of that. His stuff is among the best in the
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: big leagues. He throws unbelievable breaking balls and it's he
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: can just spin the ball like anybody I've ever seen.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: So that's an interesting matchup with de Gram on Saturday,
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: that's for sure. You get two of the better stuff
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: guys in the league. And Jacob to the ground. We
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: all know what he's gonna do and has been doing
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: it for a long time now.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then top five that you get the two
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: players in my mind who I think the Mets should
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: not have let go facing off. That's Pete Alonzo, who's
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: quietly putting together a Pete Alonzo season. I mean, he
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: is right, he's probably gonna end up with thirty five
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: forty homers, one thirty ops plus. I bet he'll end
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: up with I think he's into the one twenties right now.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And then he's going up against Brandon Nimo, who leads
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the Rangers and hits Ribby's in some other categories. So
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: those two were doing their thing.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you take it guys like Plays Alexander
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: and Gunner Henderson. It's like you gotta find the team
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: to come together and everybody clicking on all cylinders. One
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: guy can't just keep doing it, so you know, there's
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: that happy medium you got to find. And a couple
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: guys just haven't really stepped up the way that you know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: us fans and people that love the teams have seen before.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So that's all.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one more game that you can also find on
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Fox and Fox one app Fox depending on where you are,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: but Fox one App's got all these games that were
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: going over if you've got a subscription. So Jackson job
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: is going to make his debut. It's been fourteen months.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: He was one of the top prospects in the sport
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and he's coming back from the good old classic Tommy
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: John surgery, top father. So fourteen months. But this is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: what Ken was talking about with us earlier in his segment.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: He said, here comes Jackson job here and then Drew Anderson,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: who's pitched pretty well out of the bullpen for the
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Tigers and is showing some swinging myths. They've wanted to
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: develop him into a starter, so they put those two
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: into the rotation. Of course, they subtracted Trek's schoogl in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Casey Mize. But the Tigers can't say it this way.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: They look at the third wildcard and they go, is
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: it crazy to think that we could sell again and
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: then at least catch up enough to be a third
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: wildcard like we did a couple of years ago in
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: twenty four when they sold.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: If there was a manager that could figure that out,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: there's one in aj Hinch, for sure. He's he's a
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: mastermind and understands his players. They got rid of two
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: of their top guns. It's going to be very hard.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: But guess what, as you're a player and a team
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: that have an opportunity, But are you gonna just sit
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: there and lay down?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: No?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're a Tiger team that understands. You know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: we got rid of some guys, but guess what, we
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: still have guys that have been here and understand our
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: culture and atmosphere and what we need to do to win.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: You know, they just they just kick some butt over
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: over his last couple of days, and you know they're
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: not going to go down without the.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: I just think when you look at this offense, they
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: didn't subtract any pieces, and this team scores a lot
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: of runs. So yes, you subtract two guys from the
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: starting rotation, but they obviously felt that the guys they
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: have stepping in are gonna be able to do the job.
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: And Kennon mentioned also before they're second in the American
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: League and run differential. So it's just something wasn't adding
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: up early on. And you know, maybe analytics is kind
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: of right on this team that they should be performing
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: better than they are, and even losing those guys, you
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: put these guys in the rotation and you just got
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: to let the offense keep doing their thing. They got
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: a ton of bats from one through nine in that lineup,
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: and they've got some guys who've been through playoff races before.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: So I mean the American League is did the standings
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: are kind of dictating where they're at and they're right
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: in it, so it's just kind of go out there,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: play the games, don't worry about the standings, and kind
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: of see where we fall come September and.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Then the Marquee matchup this weekend at least on Saturday,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: is Gavin Williams and the Guardians taking on Anthony k
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: and the White Sox. Todd Fathered. Did you have any
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: interactions with Gahan when you were on the White Sox.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Did you get to see him at all? Was he
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: around at all or not? Really?
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Rarely? Rarely? Okay, Well, he's a character we love. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: love him. I thought he was an awesome guy.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, very funny and he'll get honored the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: numbers getting retired this weekend. What about you, Brad, did
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you have any run ins with Ozzie in life?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: We got him on the interd you never did.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Just seeing some of the clips and you know, watch
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: him getting tossed and videos and stuff like that, so
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: it seems like it seems like a great player's manager though,
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: even though some of those clips seem a little crazy,
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: but he had his guys backs everybody that talked that
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: was on those teams. Anytime you see a clip talking
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: about Ozzie, they said that if you went out there
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: and do what you were supposed to do, he had
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: your back, and that's all you can really ask for
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: from a manager.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I mean most managers nowadays
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: are in the position, Brad, where they'll have your back
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: publicly to the media. They won't necessarily have your back
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: with the front office. The front office has a lot
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: more then back in the day when someone like Ozzie
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: was running the dugout. It's funny Ozzie was kind of
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the reverse, right. Ozzie will fight to the death with
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the front office and tell them, hey, this is my guy,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you're not trading him or we're not optioning this player.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Publicly to the media. Sometimes he would roast him, but
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: the guys liked it. I mean, at least for me.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting next to AJ and he just sometimes it
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was funny, right, because jokes are mixed in. The only
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: person I can comp right now that does even as
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: semblance of this that I can think of is Pat Murphy.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he'll roast a player a little bit publicly, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: it'll do it in a fun way where you either
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: kind of making fun of him, like you know, this
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: guy's this guy's short, or he kind of stinks lately,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to talk to him and we're going
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to get him back on, you know, Like they do
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: it in a way that I think, psychology wise, still works.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Most managers are too worried about that nowadays, right because
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: they're too worried about a clip going viral that they
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: call the player out.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think you knew where you stood with him,
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: So I kind of respect that really, Like either he's
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: gonna say to your face or to the media, but
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: you're gonna find out one way or the other. And
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: you want guys that are gonna fight back, And to me,
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: that's the guys you want on your team. And I
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: think that's how he kind of wea guys out. If
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: you couldn't handle what he was gonna say, you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: to the media, then maybe you weren't one of the
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: guys he wanted on the team. And I respect that,
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: and I think that's an awesome trait to have.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the White Sox side. And then real
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: quick on the Guardians, Todd Father. I mean, I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Joe Adell could do some things for them. Down the stretcher.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: They made two moves. They actually did more than I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to do, and we'll see. I
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: know Foster Griffin didn't have a great first start, but
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: we'll see how he fits into the rotation. The thing
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is teams like the Guardians picking up Griffin, the Rays
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: picking up Freddy Peralta, the Brewers picking up dustin May.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Those are three of the pitching machines organizationally right now.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You got to give them a little bit of time
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: to work with a new arm. If there's something they
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: want to suggest, it's not necessarily going to happen on
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: day one. Same thing with the Padres in Casey mis.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: And for the Guardians, you know, they just got to
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: hit more, and I think that's been their big buggaboo
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: is getting after it with the bats. They've been really
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: struggling there and there's still an opportunity for them to
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: you know, win that division and find a way, which
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: they did last year. So don't count this team out,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: you know, playoff team for sure, but don't count them
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: out of you know, taking over that division too, because
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the White Sox haven't been there in a long time.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: They could fizzle. I'm not saying they won't. A lot
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: of time left for UH to make some noise.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they have on hell Hanau who they just
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: called up the Guardians. That's a good name to watch
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: this weekend if you're looking to see what they're up to.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: One of the better prospects in the sport. Okay, you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: can catch all those games on Fox and the Fox
• 43:42
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