Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / K.T. McFarland | Former Deputy National Security Advisor Speaks on Conflict with Iran
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And you do that, you go through squalor and add
- 0:02Speaker 1: the word again filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment. You lose
- 0:10Speaker 1: your home, you lose your apartment.
- 0:13Speaker 2: And that's where the Communists will take us one hundred percent.
- 0:16Speaker 1: When I watch Abdul he's full of.
- 0:24Speaker 2: This.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Guy hates Jews. Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong. No,
- 0:28Speaker 1: he hates Jews and he hates Israel. Abdul el Sayad.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Can you believe this? Abdul el Sayad, lovely gentleman. He's
- 0:38Speaker 1: a man of hate. And now he's going around saying, no,
- 0:41Speaker 1: I love everybody, I love. He doesn't love everybody. Put
- 0:44Speaker 1: him in office. You're gonna find out what he loves.
- 0:47Speaker 1: He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people. He
- 0:51Speaker 1: hates them.
- 0:53Speaker 3: He hates them with a passion that burns in his
- 0:55Speaker 3: heart and is not a fricking thing he can do
- 0:58Speaker 3: about it. She worked for President Trump, for presidents and
- 1:01Speaker 3: all Trump and Reagan on this show every Friday, the
- 1:04Speaker 3: Great KT McFarland, And I think you would agree those
- 1:08Speaker 3: last sixty three seconds that's why you gotta love him, right, Kat.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Yeah, That and a whole lot of other reasons. I mean,
- 1:15Speaker 2: the policies are just terrific. But does last couple of
- 1:19Speaker 2: seconds you bet?
- 1:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you know?
- 1:24Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's it. No, that's it, you know. And
- 1:27Speaker 3: there's still a lot of people very angry with me.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be on Fox News anytime soon.
- 1:31Speaker 3: I in fact, I bet I'm not going to be.
- 1:33Speaker 3: And I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it because
- 1:35Speaker 3: I just say anything really bad. I explained to Grip
- 1:38Speaker 3: Jenkins where I was coming from using that word to
- 1:40Speaker 3: describe Mom Donnie. And I still think I'm right. I'm
- 1:43Speaker 3: not going to apologize. They don't put me on their channel.
- 1:45Speaker 1: I don't care.
- 1:46Speaker 3: I look great, I sound great, the ratings are great.
- 1:49Speaker 3: It's their loss, it's not mine. I sound like Trump.
- 1:51Speaker 3: That's right to God. But I'm being serious. I said
- 1:53Speaker 3: a word that didn't like tough. That's who Mam Donnie is,
- 1:56Speaker 3: and that's President Trump. He sets stuff all the time.
- 1:59Speaker 3: People don't like tough with telling the truth.
- 2:02Speaker 2: No, it's a great thing about President Trump. And I
- 2:06Speaker 2: can tell you this having been with him in the
- 2:09Speaker 2: Oval office and then walked out and watched him talk
- 2:12Speaker 2: to the press. He says the same thing in the
- 2:14Speaker 2: Oval Office that he says to the American people. It's unvarnished.
- 2:19Speaker 2: It's not like he's thinking, oh, what word is going
- 2:21Speaker 2: to work the best, or I shouldn't say this, I'm
- 2:24Speaker 2: not going to sound like a true president. He just
- 2:26Speaker 2: says it as he sees it. And I think that's
- 2:29Speaker 2: something really refreshing in politics. I mean, what political leader
- 2:33Speaker 2: can you think of who actually tells you to your
- 2:35Speaker 2: face what he's thinking, including if it's something not very nice.
- 2:39Speaker 3: How many That's why I love this guy. But again,
- 2:41Speaker 3: as I said earlier, remained critical. This Iran thing is
- 2:45Speaker 3: still a mess.
- 2:46Speaker 1: It's a mesh. It's another week.
- 2:47Speaker 2: It's agreed, you disagree, I disagree. Yeah, I think the
- 2:52Speaker 2: Iran thing is going pretty well.
- 2:54Speaker 1: You do.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Yeah, not in an obvious way, but in a more
- 2:59Speaker 2: subtle way when you think of the sort of what's
- 3:01Speaker 2: the best outcome in Iran that we could have? All right,
- 3:04Speaker 2: no nukes for sure, open the straight for sure, a regional.
- 3:08Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, not one of those
- 3:10Speaker 1: things are happening. That's over two. He's over two.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Gad programmers.
- 3:14Speaker 1: No, he's done a very good jump. He's done a
- 3:16Speaker 1: very good jumb but Katie. But he could have stopped
- 3:20Speaker 1: with Midnight Hammer.
- 3:21Speaker 3: He didn't need the last three months Midnight Hammer did
- 3:24Speaker 3: so much damage to their new program. And all he's
- 3:27Speaker 3: done the last couple of months with all these stoppages
- 3:30Speaker 3: is allowing them to find new mountain places to build
- 3:34Speaker 3: more stuff. They still have the dust. Let's have an
- 3:36Speaker 3: honest conversation. Okay, Midnight Hammer was enough the last three months.
- 3:41Speaker 3: We're helping them and they still have the dust. Okay,
- 3:44Speaker 3: and the RGC is still running the show. You can disagree,
- 3:47Speaker 3: but I'm right. I'm one thousand percent right. What have
- 3:50Speaker 3: we done the last three months to stop their new program?
- 3:53Speaker 3: The last three months, what have we done?
- 3:55Speaker 2: We've gotten Armada there the first If they ever popped
- 3:59Speaker 2: their heads up again and try to rebuild what they have, bombit, you.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Don't think right, You don't think.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You don't think right now as we speak, these last
- 4:06Speaker 3: couple of months, with all these seaspires and stoppages, they
- 4:10Speaker 3: haven't been actively trying to rebuild all that stuff.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Come on, you know better, of course they are now.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I think they don't try it and say I think
- 4:17Speaker 2: clearing the rebel is not rebuilding a nuclear program. Number
- 4:20Speaker 2: One Number two, what's happened in the last several months.
- 4:24Speaker 2: You know, six months ago, a year ago, thirty years ago,
- 4:27Speaker 2: fifty years ago, Iran could use the straight up Hormuz
- 4:31Speaker 2: to jerk the world around over the price of oil.
- 4:34Speaker 2: They could do it at their will, They could do
- 4:36Speaker 2: it at their whim, and the world had to pay attention.
- 4:39Speaker 2: What's happened now in the last three or four months.
- 4:41Speaker 2: The price of oil isn't moving, whether we're having a ceasfire,
- 4:45Speaker 2: whether we don't have a ceasefire, it's always at about
- 4:49Speaker 2: eighty dollars a barrel. That's the huge We have taken
- 4:52Speaker 2: away their major threat to the world, which is their
- 4:56Speaker 2: ability to influence the price of oil. It's a lot
- 4:59Speaker 2: of other things have happened. You know, people are countries
- 5:01Speaker 2: are buying from America. They're not buying from the Middle
- 5:04Speaker 2: East because the Middle East is too vollable. The Middle
- 5:06Speaker 2: East countries are building pipelines, the UAE in particular. They're
- 5:10Speaker 2: getting their oil out in other ways they don't. Iran's
- 5:13Speaker 2: ability to hold the world hostage has greatly diminished, and
- 5:17Speaker 2: I think within several years it will be gone. They
- 5:20Speaker 2: won't be able to use the Strait of Wrmuse because
- 5:23Speaker 2: countries will buy their oil from America or other safe places,
- 5:26Speaker 2: but mostly America, or they'll buy their oil from pipelines
- 5:30Speaker 2: that is coming away from the Strait of Marmouse. Now
- 5:32Speaker 2: that's taking away a power Iran has had for decades
- 5:36Speaker 2: to hold the world hostage. Number Two, the IRGC. They're weakened. Now,
- 5:42Speaker 2: are they a rogue? Are they going to sabotage every deal?
- 5:46Speaker 1: You bet?
- 5:46Speaker 2: Will they ever sign a deal? Not a chance. But
- 5:50Speaker 2: what's happening over time is the Iranian economy is getting
- 5:53Speaker 2: so hammered that they've got to be losing power. So
- 5:57Speaker 2: that one hundred and eighty thousand people and the IRG
- 6:00Speaker 2: are not going to hold ninety million people hostage. The
- 6:03Speaker 2: best outcome would be a slow rolling coup that the
- 6:06Speaker 2: Iranian people themselves impose upon.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Stop it, then you better do what me and Levin
- 6:11Speaker 3: had been saying for months. Doesn't matter how many people
- 6:13Speaker 3: up against, how many people they got guns. They've already
- 6:16Speaker 3: mowed down fifty thousand innocent people in the streets. They're
- 6:19Speaker 3: not going to run there with rocks and go after
- 6:21Speaker 3: these people. So the idea of the people are taking
- 6:23Speaker 3: over and I love you to pieces is so ludicrous,
- 6:26Speaker 3: ludicrous unless the United States is ready to provide these
- 6:30Speaker 3: civilians with guns, or.
- 6:35Speaker 2: The United States conbined with Israel and the other Arab
- 6:37Speaker 2: countries in the region, takes out a lot of the
- 6:40Speaker 2: IRGC leadership, as President's from says, we're talking to the
- 6:43Speaker 2: third tier. Well, but that's my point, the tenth tier.
- 6:46Speaker 3: But that's my point because they have ten tiers, they've
- 6:48Speaker 3: got twenty tiers, they've got thirty tiers. Okay, they're like roaches,
- 6:52Speaker 3: they just multiply. So unless you take.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Out ten tiers, not two or three.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Then you are destined to have the same issue in
- 7:00Speaker 3: seven years.
- 7:01Speaker 1: I mean, you talked about a couple of years from now.
- 7:03Speaker 1: What do you mean a couple of years from now?
- 7:05Speaker 3: What if God would be the Democrats win in twenty
- 7:08Speaker 3: twenty eight, this will all be undone we have. There's
- 7:10Speaker 3: no guarantee that a couple of years from now the
- 7:13Speaker 3: straight goal the way we wanted to go.
- 7:15Speaker 1: You're basing all that on Trump. He's gone in two years,
- 7:18Speaker 1: He's done.
- 7:18Speaker 2: No. I think the price of oil. I think that
- 7:20Speaker 2: the world has soured on the Middle East is especially
- 7:24Speaker 2: Iran as a source of oil, okay, and that's not
- 7:26Speaker 2: going to turn around, that's going to continue to degrade.
- 7:29Speaker 2: And the other thing, and the main price here is
- 7:31Speaker 2: what was Iran. Well, Iran, you stabilized the entire region,
- 7:35Speaker 2: threatened Israel, et cetera, threatened the world. But it also
- 7:38Speaker 2: was a foothold that China had in the region. And
- 7:41Speaker 2: that of the main part of this is that bigger
- 7:44Speaker 2: picture is that the United States is now kind of
- 7:47Speaker 2: pushing China out of the Middle East. And I think
- 7:50Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords will work. I think that they will expand,
- 7:54Speaker 2: and I think Iran's leadership group will be diminished, diminished,
- 7:57Speaker 2: diminute yea.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you just said,
- 7:59Speaker 1: because then you proof of some of these things. They
- 8:01Speaker 1: sound great.
- 8:01Speaker 3: And again I love you one Trump, We are pushing
- 8:04Speaker 3: China out of the Middle East.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Where or how.
- 8:09Speaker 2: China has used Iran, has has bought Iran's China is
- 8:13Speaker 2: there's money.
- 8:14Speaker 3: You do realize that China is still providing you on
- 8:16Speaker 3: with weapons and you know that, I know you know.
- 8:18Speaker 2: That it's providing Iran with intelligence. I think it's buying
- 8:23Speaker 2: Iran's oil. It's increasingly difficult for China to buy Iron's
- 8:28Speaker 2: discounted oil. And as a result of that, or one
- 8:31Speaker 2: of the reasons that Iran is diminished is that it's
- 8:35Speaker 2: losing money. It is making no money. And because we
- 8:38Speaker 2: figured out not just with you know, epic fury, but
- 8:41Speaker 2: mostly with economic fury, is that we found a way
- 8:44Speaker 2: to shut down almost all of Iran's illegal money coming
- 8:47Speaker 2: in or illicit money, not illicit money coming in the cryptocurrencies,
- 8:51Speaker 2: the offshore bank accounts that are in the in the
- 8:54Speaker 2: other golfare of states, the way Iran has been selling
- 8:58Speaker 2: oil to China. Discover shut down the ghost fleets of
- 9:01Speaker 2: the tankers that oil was moving on. So I think
- 9:04Speaker 2: it diminishes China because it takes away China's cheap source
- 9:07Speaker 2: of oil. It diminishes Iran because it destroys around's economy.
- 9:12Speaker 2: And now maybe they're going to be you know, guys
- 9:14Speaker 2: with guns who are just going to mow down ninety
- 9:16Speaker 2: million people. Maybe I certainly hope that we are doing
- 9:19Speaker 2: with Iran what Pritt Reagan did during the Cold War,
- 9:23Speaker 2: which is helping in many ways, helping the opposition forces
- 9:27Speaker 2: within Iran.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Now you know, of course that I love President Trump,
- 9:31Speaker 1: and I love you and I have to just provide
- 9:33Speaker 1: pushback on the radio because you know, people hear Trump
- 9:36Speaker 1: saying the same things that you're saying, and they say
- 9:38Speaker 1: to me, I don't know.
- 9:39Speaker 3: So when I'm providing pushback, it's not because I don't.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Believe you necessarily or Trump trot me to make my
- 9:45Speaker 1: case right.
- 9:47Speaker 3: So my question to you is do you think enough
- 9:49Speaker 3: Americans because I don't.
- 9:52Speaker 1: I don't.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I'm sorry, enough Americans know what Katie mcfallan is saying,
- 9:57Speaker 3: but Donald Trump is saying and it's not going to
- 9:59Speaker 3: bite us in the yes come November.
- 10:02Speaker 2: That's the one criticism I would make of the President
- 10:05Speaker 2: is he needs to explain to the American people what's
- 10:09Speaker 2: our goal here, what are we doing, Why are we
- 10:11Speaker 2: going to achieve it? I've written those Oval Office species
- 10:13Speaker 2: for previous presidents. You identify the problem. The problem is Iran.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Problem is iron it's nukes, it's power in the region,
- 10:21Speaker 2: it's ability to hold the world economic constition. Okay, that's
- 10:24Speaker 2: the problem. So what's the solution. Okay, Operation Midnight Fury,
- 10:28Speaker 2: Economic Fury. With all those operations and what's the solution.
- 10:34Speaker 2: We're going to continue to keep the armada there. We're
- 10:37Speaker 2: going to continue to use the United States as an
- 10:40Speaker 2: alternative energy source. And to the American people, I need
- 10:43Speaker 2: you to support me and have confidence that I'm going
- 10:46Speaker 2: to get us over the finish line. It's not something
- 10:49Speaker 2: that happens overnight. I mean, Reagan made those appeals, Abraham
- 10:53Speaker 2: Lincoln made those appeals, and I wish President Trump would
- 10:56Speaker 2: do it. He's good at it, not great at it,
- 10:58Speaker 2: but he should. He needs to do it because the
- 11:00Speaker 2: American people scratching their heads. What's their goal? Regime changed,
- 11:04Speaker 2: getting rid of the nukes, opening this straight, what's her goal?
- 11:08Speaker 2: And what's their sacrifice?
- 11:09Speaker 3: That's right, and most Americans are saying that, and they're
- 11:11Speaker 3: still upset with gas prices still, and they're still upset
- 11:15Speaker 3: with a lot of stuff going on with the economy.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Interest rates are still wait too high, despite washing now
- 11:19Speaker 3: being sitting in that chair. And the other thing that
- 11:22Speaker 3: he should do is don't just limit it to we run.
- 11:26Speaker 3: You know, there were Americans that were upset that President
- 11:28Speaker 3: Trump did this great speech and he pointed out how
- 11:32Speaker 3: China meddled in the election, and they said, wait a second,
- 11:38Speaker 3: he was just in China a month ago. We was
- 11:40Speaker 3: that discussion.
- 11:41Speaker 1: Now, maybe he had it. Maybe it wasn't on TV,
- 11:44Speaker 1: maybe we don't know about it, but it just seemed like.
- 11:47Speaker 3: It was such a wonderful couple of days and the
- 11:49Speaker 3: state dinner and g and President Trump are getting along great.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Why did he wait till a month later on TV
- 11:55Speaker 3: in America to hammer the Chinese? Because he needs to
- 11:58Speaker 3: attach the Chinese and the Russians and all these other
- 12:01Speaker 3: adversaries to this to point out that it's not just Iran,
- 12:05Speaker 3: but this is a mission to basically save the world
- 12:09Speaker 3: from all these rotten countries.
- 12:12Speaker 2: I agree. I think it was a lost opportunity. I
- 12:14Speaker 2: think he identified the problem or China meddling in elections,
- 12:18Speaker 2: but I don't think he offered the solution, and I
- 12:20Speaker 2: don't think he challenged the American people to support him.
- 12:24Speaker 2: You know, I think it's a call to arms. It's
- 12:25Speaker 2: a those all oval office species need to be identify
- 12:29Speaker 2: the problem, tell the American people what the solution is
- 12:32Speaker 2: and how you're going to achieve it, and then ask
- 12:34Speaker 2: for the American people to support you. And even if
- 12:36Speaker 2: it's a time it's temporary sacrifice, that it's worth that
- 12:40Speaker 2: delayed gratification to the end result. I don't think the
- 12:42Speaker 2: president I think identified the problem with China, but I
- 12:46Speaker 2: don't think. He then said, Okay, so here's what we're
- 12:48Speaker 2: going to do about it, and here's how I want
- 12:49Speaker 2: you to help me.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Last one, so I know you're a huge star. Huge
- 12:54Speaker 3: in Southampton. When Kat mcfalland hits the streets, I go crazy.
- 12:57Speaker 3: I never go to the Hampton's. I go like once
- 12:59Speaker 3: a summer some event.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I am going Kat to West Hampton on Sunday night.
- 13:05Speaker 1: How about that?
- 13:07Speaker 3: I have an event boots for Israel. I've been working
- 13:10Speaker 3: with this organization for years. They do provide the boots
- 13:14Speaker 3: for the soldiers. You'd be surprised how many soldiers don't
- 13:17Speaker 3: have boots and they can't fight without them. They send
- 13:21Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of boots to Israel to help the fighters,
- 13:26Speaker 3: whether they're fighting in Lebanon or Gaza or who knows where.
- 13:30Speaker 3: So I got a big event in West Hampton and
- 13:32Speaker 3: I don't even know how father that is is that
- 13:33Speaker 3: bar from Southampton.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Depends on the traffic. It could be half an hour,
- 13:38Speaker 2: it could be three hours, depending upon the traffic. Sunday night.
- 13:40Speaker 2: You should be just fine. Where are you speaking on Sunday.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Night Gentlemen's house. He's a very famous Hampton night. I
- 13:47Speaker 3: guess his name is Adam Hutt.
- 13:49Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, you don't really.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that.
- 13:55Speaker 2: You're going to have a good crowd. Good for you.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a good crowd.
- 13:58Speaker 3: And you know he's got a lovely home and it's
- 14:00Speaker 3: gonna be a thousand agrees that days got a pool.
- 14:02Speaker 1: That's great, so.
- 14:04Speaker 3: It'll be it'll be a fun weekend. And as always,
- 14:06Speaker 3: kat you're so great. You come on and you explain
- 14:09Speaker 3: everything and with all my pushback, you always win. So
- 14:13Speaker 3: thank you, kat, I love you. A great job.
- 14:15Speaker 2: It's an honorant thank you for making me make the case,
- 14:19Speaker 2: because that's the important thing, is to make the case.
- 14:22Speaker 2: The case can be made. It shouldn't be glossed over
- 14:25Speaker 2: and it shouldn't just be dumped in the trash. But
- 14:27Speaker 2: thank you for the opportunity to make.
- 14:28Speaker 1: The case, which you did. You made the case. You
- 14:30Speaker 1: really did. Excellent job, kat, You're terrific. We love you.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Everybody Katie mcflan right here on Sid and Friends in
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