Latest / The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories / True Crime Documentary - Tragic Murder of 11-Year-Old Carlie Brucia
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Here it is, January 4th, 97, and Carly just got here.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Hi, Carly. Hi, Papa.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Hello there.
- 0:27Speaker 4: This is a picture of Carly. She is missing one
- 0:31Speaker 4: of her front teeth.
- 0:33Speaker 5: And she just looks adorable.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Carly was more like a little sister to me than
- 0:41Speaker 4: my niece. We were only eight years apart, so it
- 0:44Speaker 4: was like having a little sister around.
- 0:46Speaker 6: Go ahead, pedal, push.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Here we have a video of my brother teaching Carly
- 0:53Speaker 4: how to ride her new bike outside. There's a lot
- 0:55Speaker 4: of snow on the ground because it was March. She's
- 1:00Speaker 4: calling out for me. Her calling out for me, you know,
- 1:07Speaker 4: it was the love went both ways.
- 1:11Speaker 7: Everybody loved her.
- 1:14Speaker 2: She loved people. When she walked into a room, her energy,
- 1:17Speaker 2: you just felt it. She would have been something special.
- 1:21Speaker 2: I know that because she was.
- 1:22Speaker 6: She was special.
- 1:23Speaker 3: 911, what's the location of the emergency? My daughter is missing. Okay,
- 1:35Speaker 3: what's her name, ma'am?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Carly. A child was reported missing Sunday evening during the
- 1:45Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
- 1:46Speaker 8: Carly was an 11-year-old girl. Everybody in the community was
- 1:50Speaker 8: very concerned.
- 1:52Speaker 4: I turned on the news, and there's my brother being
- 1:55Speaker 4: interviewed about Carly's disappearance.
- 2:00Speaker 6: I'd like to say to the man who abducted her,
- 2:03Speaker 6: you've done a considerable amount of damage.
- 2:05Speaker 5: Please stop.
- 2:06Speaker 9: Release my daughter.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Reality sets in very quickly that this is really happening,
- 2:12Speaker 4: and it's terrifying.
- 2:16Speaker 1: The second that video came into our possession, this case
- 2:20Speaker 1: took a whole new turn.
- 2:22Speaker 8: When you see the video, you know in your pit
- 2:25Speaker 8: of your stomach that it's probably not going to end well.
- 2:29Speaker 7: This is a broad daylight interaction.
- 2:32Speaker 10: Carly was in the wrong place at the wrong time,
- 2:34Speaker 10: and that's everybody's worst nightmare, especially a parent.
- 2:39Speaker 1: We had this great piece of evidence that showed this
- 2:42Speaker 1: crime having occurred, but we were stumped. We simply had
- 2:47Speaker 1: no suspects to work with.
- 2:50Speaker 4: Watching my brother navigate through grief and loss, it's excruciating.
- 2:57Speaker 5: It changes you forever.
- 3:00Speaker 4: This bright future that we had for Carly, all those
- 3:03Speaker 4: hopes and dreams, you realize they're never.
- 3:06Speaker 5: Going to happen.
- 3:06Speaker 4: It's just gone in a second. He took that away
- 3:11Speaker 4: from us. This has to be my most favorite picture
- 3:53Speaker 4: of Carly. I love that it was taken here in
- 3:57Speaker 4: my backyard. We all have so many memories of pushing
- 4:01Speaker 4: each other on the swing, and she just looks so happy.
- 4:09Speaker 4: When my sister and I found out that we were
- 4:11Speaker 4: going to have a niece, we couldn't wait for her
- 4:14Speaker 4: to be born. I was eight years old at the time.
- 4:17Speaker 4: My sister was around 11. We were just beyond excited.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Carly was born on March 16th, 1992. She arrived several
- 4:31Speaker 4: weeks early. She was perfectly healthy. It was just so
- 4:35Speaker 4: exciting to be able to hold her. Carly was the cutest.
- 4:40Speaker 4: She had these big electric blue eyes, this beautiful blonde hair,
- 4:45Speaker 4: and she was always smiling.
- 4:46Speaker 3: You'll have a good one, my gentlemen.
- 4:50Speaker 4: My brother Joe was just the greatest dad. He was
- 4:53Speaker 4: so excited to have a baby girl and to share
- 4:57Speaker 4: her with our family. What do you have?
- 5:07Speaker 5: Hmm?
- 5:08Speaker 3: What do you have?
- 5:09Speaker 4: Yeah, this must have been the video right before she
- 5:12Speaker 4: left for Florida. She was probably leaving the next day.
- 5:16Speaker 8: Well, you know, Collie's going to Florida.
- 5:17Speaker 2: She's taking a big, big trip.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 5:21Speaker 5: You're going to Florida with Mommy?
- 5:22Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
- 5:23Speaker 8: You're going to miss your daddy?
- 5:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:25Speaker 5: I'm going to miss my daddy.
- 5:27Speaker 4: Yes.
- 5:28Speaker 8: And we're all going to miss our little Carly.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Carly was about two when I found out. My brother
- 5:38Speaker 4: Joe and his wife, Carly's mom, were separating, and she
- 5:42Speaker 4: was going to be moving to Florida.
- 5:45Speaker 5: We were devastated. I remember my parents telling us.
- 5:50Speaker 4: That we would see Carly over the summer, and we
- 5:53Speaker 4: would see her again over the Christmas break. My sister
- 5:57Speaker 4: and I were very upset about the fact that we
- 6:01Speaker 4: would only see her twice a year.
- 6:02Speaker 5: We were so used to having her in our everyday life.
- 6:06Speaker 4: But my brother and Carly, they just had a wonderful relationship,
- 6:11Speaker 4: and even though she was living in Florida, they were
- 6:13Speaker 4: in contact all the time, so they maintained a close connection.
- 6:30Speaker 2: My daughter's name is Mandy, and her and Mandy were
- 6:33Speaker 2: just like two peas in a pod. Carly was in kindergarten,
- 6:39Speaker 2: and her and my daughter were in the same class.
- 6:42Speaker 2: When they first met, they didn't like each other. They
- 6:45Speaker 2: used to fight. and they ended up being best friends.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Sarasota's changed a lot, but back then, it was much
- 6:54Speaker 2: smaller and very laid back. It was like a quaint
- 6:58Speaker 2: kind of a town. You could play outside till dark
- 7:01Speaker 2: and not worry. You could ride your bicycle around town
- 7:04Speaker 2: and not worry. Carly was just a typical five-year-old. She
- 7:10Speaker 2: was always at my house. We'd have dinner at her house.
- 7:13Speaker 2: She'd have dinner at our house, and we'd go grocery
- 7:16Speaker 2: shopping together. We were more like family than we were friends.
- 7:30Speaker 2: She loved going to visit her father, and she loved
- 7:33Speaker 2: her aunt.
- 7:35Speaker 4: Carly's last visit to New York, she was 11 years old,
- 7:39Speaker 4: and she was really changing and turning more into a
- 7:45Speaker 4: teenager than a little girl.
- 7:48Speaker 2: She was growing up and she was starting to find
- 7:51Speaker 2: her own way. I think she would have done well
- 7:54Speaker 2: in life, I really do, if she would have had
- 7:56Speaker 2: the chance.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Our last conversation that we had, I remember being in
- 8:02Speaker 4: her room at my brother's house.
- 8:03Speaker 5: We were always upset when we had to leave each other.
- 8:08Speaker 4: We talked about big plans of her coming back to
- 8:11Speaker 4: New York when she was 16, finishing up.
- 8:14Speaker 5: High school in New York.
- 8:17Speaker 4: I look back on that conversation so thankful that I
- 8:20Speaker 4: have that memory and that moment with her because that
- 8:23Speaker 4: was our goodbye.
- 8:24Speaker 3: 911, what's the location of the emergency? My daughter is missing.
- 8:42Speaker 3: We've been driving around and now... It was February 1st, 2004,
- 8:46Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Detectives responded out to her house and took the report
- 9:18Speaker 1: from the mother.
- 9:20Speaker 8: Even though she's a child, she was still 11, and
- 9:22Speaker 8: she was a responsible kid by all accounts that everybody
- 9:25Speaker 8: I spoke to.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Carly's mom was living a pretty good life. She was
- 9:31Speaker 1: a blue-collar worker, was a good mother to Carly.
- 9:35Speaker 10: Carly left her friend's house around 6.15. She was walking
- 9:40Speaker 10: along a.
- 9:41Speaker 7: Relatively busy road.
- 9:42Speaker 10: There were fast food restaurants, coffee shops, but there aren't
- 9:46Speaker 10: a lot of people out.
- 9:54Speaker 2: We were sitting at the dinner table and the news
- 9:57Speaker 2: came on. It was like a news break thing that
- 10:00Speaker 2: she was missing. And my daughter Mandy screamed, Carly! And
- 10:06Speaker 2: we turned the TV up. None of us could believe it.
- 10:09Speaker 2: I mean, it was shocking.
- 10:11Speaker 4: The only thing that I was told was that Carly's missing.
- 10:14Speaker 4: That's all that I knew. I was 19 at the time.
- 10:19Speaker 4: My family may have known more information that they were
- 10:22Speaker 4: shielding me from. The gravity and the seriousness wasn't something
- 10:28Speaker 4: that entered my mind right away. I was like, OK, well,
- 10:32Speaker 4: we're going to find her.
- 10:33Speaker 5: It's just we have to find her.
- 10:35Speaker 4: But it was shortly thereafter that the panic did set in.
- 10:41Speaker 5: I got on the phone.
- 10:42Speaker 2: I called her mom, Sue. And she was in tears.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Everybody went out looking. It was just surreal. It didn't
- 10:50Speaker 2: seem real.
- 10:52Speaker 5: It was like a nightmare.
- 10:54Speaker 1: Detectives got a list of Carly's friends. They got a
- 10:58Speaker 1: list of other places that she could possibly be. And
- 11:02Speaker 1: they searched throughout the night into the early morning hours
- 11:05Speaker 1: but could not find Carly.
- 11:08Speaker 4: My brother, Joe, flew down to Florida right away to
- 11:12Speaker 4: help with the efforts to find her.
- 11:22Speaker 8: In my job, you're kind of Jaded in many respects,
- 11:25Speaker 8: you see horrible, horrible things. You relate to it. You
- 11:29Speaker 8: empathize with the parents who are missing their child and
- 11:32Speaker 8: you don't know where that child is. And I had kids,
- 11:36Speaker 8: so it's really hard to just turn off being a
- 11:39Speaker 8: father or a citizen.
- 11:42Speaker 1: It is not a common thing for children of that
- 11:47Speaker 1: age to be missing overnight. And so when she didn't
- 11:52Speaker 1: come back home that evening, we recognized that this is
- 11:56Speaker 1: an unusual case. We contacted the Sarasota County Canine Rescue,
- 12:14Speaker 1: which is a group of volunteers who have bloodhound tracking dogs.
- 12:19Speaker 1: In this case, Carly had spent the night at a
- 12:21Speaker 1: friend's on Bee Ridge Road, and so we started a
- 12:24Speaker 1: track from her friend's house.
- 12:28Speaker 8: The police took Bloodhounds from the friend's house, and they
- 12:32Speaker 8: tracked her four or five blocks away. It makes sense
- 12:35Speaker 8: that she would walk on Bee Ridge Road. It's a
- 12:37Speaker 8: main road, but the path of the Bloodhounds showed that
- 12:41Speaker 8: she went behind the car wash facility, and then the
- 12:44Speaker 8: Bloodhounds sent stops.
- 12:47Speaker 1: The owner of the business came out and questioned what
- 12:50Speaker 1: was going on. The detectives told them that we had
- 12:53Speaker 1: a missing girl in the area and that we had
- 12:57Speaker 1: done this track to the middle of the car wash.
- 13:00Speaker 1: The owner said, well, I have just installed a video
- 13:03Speaker 1: camera system and he would go check to see if
- 13:07Speaker 1: he saw anything. And that's kind of where this story.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Took a turn.
- 13:17Speaker 1: It is immediately shocking.
- 13:20Speaker 8: You see Carly walking in the back of the car wash,
- 13:23Speaker 8: and you see a man walking right up to her.
- 13:27Speaker 8: You see him say something, and you see him grab
- 13:29Speaker 8: her above the wrist, and then they walk together out
- 13:32Speaker 8: of the video's view. It's a tough video to watch.
- 13:40Speaker 4: When I watched their surveillance video, I could tell by
- 13:43Speaker 4: her body language that she was kind of taken aback,
- 13:47Speaker 4: and she looked kind of frozen and like she didn't
- 13:51Speaker 4: know what to do.
- 13:51Speaker 5: I mean, she was only 11 years.
- 13:53Speaker 4: Old, and then he pulled her away, and he pulled
- 13:56Speaker 4: her off the screen and never saw her again.
- 14:02Speaker 2: She was smart, and I was shocked that, you know,
- 14:08Speaker 2: it's like, why is she going with him? Did he
- 14:12Speaker 2: have a weapon?
- 14:15Speaker 7: It's like, uh-uh.
- 14:16Speaker 2: And also thinking, she's gonna be terrified. I can't even
- 14:20Speaker 2: imagine what that poor child went through.
- 14:25Speaker 8: There was still hope by law enforcement in our office
- 14:28Speaker 8: that we would find her, but it's a scary video.
- 14:32Speaker 4: The feeling that you get when you watch that video,
- 14:35Speaker 4: you know, you just want to yell at your TV,
- 14:39Speaker 4: don't go, don't go with him. I wish that last
- 14:44Speaker 4: time Carly and I saw each other that we had
- 14:46Speaker 4: talked about stranger safety, but it's not something that you
- 14:51Speaker 4: typically talk about with your friends or your little sister
- 14:55Speaker 4: or your niece, but I wish that I did.
- 15:10Speaker 8: Law enforcement couldn't identify the man at that point. They
- 15:13Speaker 8: didn't know who he was. He wasn't related to the
- 15:15Speaker 8: family when they checked with the family members.
- 15:18Speaker 1: The video revealed that we were looking for a white male,
- 15:21Speaker 1: somewhere between the ages of 25 and 40.
- 15:23Speaker 8: He was wearing a darker blue mechanics uniform. He had
- 15:28Speaker 8: a name tag there, but we couldn't make that out
- 15:30Speaker 8: from the video. He walks with a distinctive gait.
- 15:34Speaker 1: You could tell by the way he walked up to
- 15:37Speaker 1: Carly that he wasn't very tall. He had short, cropped
- 15:40Speaker 1: black hair, what appeared to be tattoos, and was wearing
- 15:44Speaker 1: some work shoes.
- 15:46Speaker 10: Police are immediately trying to do everything they can, especially
- 15:51Speaker 10: in a case where it seems like a child is
- 15:53Speaker 10: abducted by somebody who is a stranger. But at the
- 15:56Speaker 10: same time, they're also very aware that they don't want
- 15:59Speaker 10: to do something that is going to spook that offender
- 16:02Speaker 10: and make them cover their tracks by harming that child.
- 16:07Speaker 7: So there's a fine line that police walk.
- 16:10Speaker 1: We weren't close to finding who this person was. And
- 16:15Speaker 1: so that night, in time for the 11 o'clock news,
- 16:19Speaker 1: we released the video to the newspapers and the TV stations.
- 16:28Speaker 5: An Amber Alert is in effect for Carly Bruscia.
- 16:31Speaker 1: She was seen on this surveillance tape being approached by
- 16:33Speaker 1: a man and then led away.
- 16:36Speaker 4: My mom told us, don't listen to the radio, don't
- 16:39Speaker 4: listen to anything, because she's afraid that we would hear
- 16:41Speaker 4: something that we shouldn't hear over the radio.
- 16:46Speaker 1: We were immediately inundated with information and tips. And the
- 16:52Speaker 1: problem with it is everyone who saw that film believed
- 16:58Speaker 1: that they knew that person. Everyone thought their kind of
- 17:02Speaker 1: creepy neighbor was that person. hey, my mechanic is that person.
- 17:06Speaker 1: And so these tips just started pouring in.
- 17:17Speaker 8: One person called in and said, based on his gait,
- 17:20Speaker 8: the way he looked, his haircut, the uniform, that looks
- 17:23Speaker 8: like Joseph Smith.
- 17:29Speaker 10: Smith at the time of this event was 37 years old.
- 17:33Speaker 10: He had a few run-ins with the law already. He
- 17:37Speaker 10: had served time. He was on probation for drug offenses.
- 17:42Speaker 10: This was a man who wasn't exactly an upstanding citizen.
- 17:48Speaker 1: When we looked into Joseph Smith, we found out that
- 17:51Speaker 1: he was employed as a mechanic at that time. His
- 17:55Speaker 1: employer identified him by his walk, by his haircut, by
- 17:59Speaker 1: his tattoos and just his general appearance.
- 18:03Speaker 10: The former co-worker of Joseph Smith said to police that
- 18:07Speaker 10: the way he grabbed the girl actually looked like the
- 18:11Speaker 10: way that Joseph Smith would grab tools. Police wanted to
- 18:15Speaker 10: talk to Joseph Smith immediately.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I responded to this residence, and we were there for
- 18:23Speaker 1: quite a while, banging on the door. After about 30
- 18:26Speaker 1: minutes or so, Joseph Smith came to the door and
- 18:30Speaker 1: we sat down on his front porch and we talked
- 18:34Speaker 1: about Super Bowl Sunday and what he had been doing.
- 18:40Speaker 1: He said that he was watching the Super Bowl at
- 18:43Speaker 1: the house, that he had basically been with.
- 18:46Speaker 8: People and I could check his alibi.
- 18:49Speaker 1: In front of this house was a vehicle that Joe
- 18:53Speaker 1: identified as his own. At that point, the probation parole
- 18:56Speaker 1: officer arrived and searched the vehicle. Drug paraphernalia was found
- 19:03Speaker 1: and Joseph Smith was arrested for violation of probation and
- 19:07Speaker 1: taken to jail. While that is occurring, a white female
- 19:12Speaker 1: pulls up driving a yellow station wagon. She identifies herself
- 19:17Speaker 1: as Joseph's roommate and that she and her husband lived
- 19:20Speaker 1: there together with Joe I took the roommate aside, and
- 19:25Speaker 1: I asked about Joe's whereabouts on Super Bowl Sunday. The
- 19:30Speaker 1: roommate told me that Joe was home the whole day,
- 19:32Speaker 1: that she actually saw him in the house, and that
- 19:35Speaker 1: they had watched pretty much the whole Super Bowl. At
- 19:39Speaker 1: that point, I eliminated Joseph Smith as being a suspect
- 19:44Speaker 1: in this case. We're at a loss as to what
- 19:47Speaker 1: to do.
- 19:55Speaker 4: I would go to bed at night just worried about her, thinking,
- 19:58Speaker 4: where could she be?
- 20:00Speaker 5: Is she alone? Is she uncomfortable? Is someone hurting her?
- 20:07Speaker 4: I definitely played scenarios in my head that she could
- 20:11Speaker 4: still be with us. Could just be someone took her
- 20:14Speaker 4: somewhere and they're holding her for ransom. Anything but to
- 20:19Speaker 4: think that she's no longer with us.
- 20:22Speaker 8: The entire community stepped up to try to find this
- 20:25Speaker 8: 11-year-old girl. There was people in my own family that
- 20:29Speaker 8: were out searching dumpsters and looking for her. There was
- 20:32Speaker 8: a lot of prayers trying to find her alive. But
- 20:35Speaker 8: the first 24 hours after somebody goes missing, the longer
- 20:40Speaker 8: it takes, the harder it is to find the person
- 20:42Speaker 8: as a survivor.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Later on that evening, the front desk officer at the
- 20:53Speaker 1: sheriff's office contacted me and said that a man was
- 20:58Speaker 1: at the front desk and that they were dropping off
- 21:00Speaker 1: a car because the car was involved in the Carly
- 21:03Speaker 1: Bruscia abduction. and the front desk officer told me that
- 21:08Speaker 1: it was the husband and wife, roommates of Joseph Smith.
- 21:16Speaker 1: The husband stated that his wife had simply lied. When
- 21:20Speaker 1: I interviewed the wife again, she had no explanation for
- 21:25Speaker 1: why she ever had said that Joseph Smith was at
- 21:27Speaker 1: the house during the Super Bowl. According to them both now,
- 21:32Speaker 1: Joseph Smith had stolen their yellow station wagon the previous
- 21:37Speaker 1: Saturday and had been missing the entire weekend. Joseph Smith's
- 21:41Speaker 1: alibi completely fell apart. Not only was it not substantiated,
- 21:45Speaker 1: it was a false alibi.
- 21:47Speaker 8: At that point, the car is seized as potential evidence
- 21:50Speaker 8: in the case. A search warrant is conducted. You have
- 21:53Speaker 8: a forensic unit scouring the car for trace evidence, fibers, dirt, blood,
- 22:00Speaker 8: anything that would connect Carly to the car. Ultimately, they
- 22:06Speaker 8: did find little threads of pinkish-reddish caught in the back
- 22:10Speaker 8: seat of the station wagon, consistent with the shirt that
- 22:13Speaker 8: Carly had on. Which let everybody know that she was
- 22:19Speaker 8: basically in that back portion of that vehicle at some point.
- 22:28Speaker 1: You and I had some things to talk about, okay?
- 22:31Speaker 1: Because some of the things at the house, we got
- 22:34Speaker 1: to get straight. That's the most important thing.
- 22:37Speaker 4: Okay.
- 22:38Speaker 7: And this room.
- 22:40Speaker 5: Is about the truth.
- 22:43Speaker 1: When it's time to re-interview him, Joseph Smith refused answering.
- 22:47Speaker 4: I was already advised to talk to a lawyer.
- 22:52Speaker 1: And he requested his rights to remain silent. That means
- 22:58Speaker 1: you and I can't talk. I think I should talk
- 23:02Speaker 1: to a lawyer. But with his identification, and with the
- 23:21Speaker 1: presence of this vehicle, and with now the roommate's help,
- 23:25Speaker 1: we're able to start building the case against Joseph Smith.
- 23:34Speaker 1: The first thing we do is we go back to
- 23:35Speaker 1: the videotape, and we discover other cameras at the car
- 23:40Speaker 1: wash showed views of the parking lot, showed views of
- 23:44Speaker 1: the car wash bays, and showed views of the westbound
- 23:49Speaker 1: traffic on Bee Ridge Road.
- 23:52Speaker 8: It turns out that vehicle is seen in the videos
- 23:56Speaker 8: in the front of the car wash right before Carly
- 23:59Speaker 8: is abducted. You see the station wagon that was lent
- 24:04Speaker 8: to Joseph Smith that Sunday driving in the parking lot,
- 24:08Speaker 8: doing a loop, circling back out onto Bee Ridge Road,
- 24:11Speaker 8: the main road. Then you see it on Bee Ridge
- 24:14Speaker 8: Road heading west, And ultimately, we know, based on connecting
- 24:19Speaker 8: the dots, he came in on the west, parked on
- 24:22Speaker 8: the west side of the car wash, abducts Carly, and
- 24:26Speaker 8: takes her into the car. And that's why the bloodhound
- 24:29Speaker 8: sent to end right there at that property line.
- 24:33Speaker 1: It definitively put Joseph Smith in the Bee Ridge area,
- 24:36Speaker 1: driving that yellow vehicle in the area of the car wash.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I knew that we had caught Carly's abductor, that Joseph
- 24:45Speaker 1: Smith had committed this crime, but Carly's been gone 72 hours,
- 24:50Speaker 1: and she's not with the guy that she's on the
- 24:52Speaker 1: film with. We need to find Carly.
- 25:05Speaker 4: Carly, being a Florida girl, loved the beach and the ocean.
- 25:14Speaker 4: When Carly would visit in the summer, we would typically
- 25:17Speaker 4: have a couple days of vacation planned where we went
- 25:21Speaker 4: to the beach.
- 25:26Speaker 5: We built fires on the beach, we.
- 25:28Speaker 4: Went out to dinner, and it was just one of
- 25:31Speaker 4: those special vacations that you never forget. There's definitely a
- 25:40Speaker 4: feeling of dread when Someone that you love has been
- 25:44Speaker 4: missing for days and you know that someone.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Purposely took her. There's a feeling of helplessness.
- 25:52Speaker 4: You're just sitting around waiting to find out what has
- 25:55Speaker 4: happened to your loved one.
- 26:06Speaker 10: Joseph Smith asked police if he could talk with his
- 26:09Speaker 10: brother This was something that.
- 26:12Speaker 7: The police were a little hesitant to allow. So they
- 26:16Speaker 7: said that only if it would be approved by his lawyer.
- 26:20Speaker 10: Interestingly, Joseph Smith's public defender approved the meeting. And a
- 26:25Speaker 10: few days after the conversation that John and Joseph had,
- 26:30Speaker 10: and this is after Carly had been missing for several days,
- 26:34Speaker 10: John alerts the police that there may be information.
- 26:37Speaker 7: That he has.
- 26:38Speaker 1: But can you tell us about what, you know, what
- 26:40Speaker 1: led to your call and what you saw or what
- 26:42Speaker 1: you observed or what?
- 26:44Speaker 9: It's not that I observed anything. It's just the picture is,
- 26:47Speaker 9: I mean, amazingly close.
- 26:50Speaker 4: I mean, you.
- 26:51Speaker 9: Know, it looks just like my brother.
- 26:54Speaker 7: John was sort of, I would say, torn on whether
- 26:58Speaker 7: to go to the police.
- 27:00Speaker 3: When you seen the video, what were your first impressions?
- 27:04Speaker 9: I got chills.
- 27:04Speaker 8: I mean, I was like, oh, man.
- 27:07Speaker 10: It wasn't until he kind of thought it over and
- 27:09Speaker 10: then decided, okay, I have to share this information with
- 27:12Speaker 10: law enforcement.
- 27:13Speaker 1: How about the way that the individual in the video,
- 27:15Speaker 1: the way that he walked?
- 27:16Speaker 9: That's the key right there. He had surgery on his back,
- 27:19Speaker 9: which he has a few discs in there, a few vertebrae,
- 27:22Speaker 9: so he's got metal plates, so he does walk funny.
- 27:26Speaker 7: Which is ultimately what he did.
- 27:28Speaker 8: He was also missing Sunday.
- 27:29Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys have ever heard that already.
- 27:32Speaker 9: He was missing Sunday.
- 27:33Speaker 2: What do you know about that, or what is it?
- 27:36Speaker 9: He was missing between, I think, 3 and 7.30 or
- 27:40Speaker 9: 3 and 8. He told his wife that he was
- 27:42Speaker 9: working on someone's car. Then he told my mom that
- 27:44Speaker 9: he was sitting in Marina Jacks looking at the water.
- 27:47Speaker 9: And then to see that on TV, you know, Monday,
- 27:49Speaker 9: I mean, that looks damn close like him. I hope
- 27:54Speaker 9: it's not him, but I feel bad for the family.
- 27:58Speaker 2: What's your gut tell you?
- 27:59Speaker 9: Like 80-20 him. The more I look at that video,
- 28:03Speaker 9: the more I look at him.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
- 28:05Speaker 9: Incredible resemblance, if it's not him.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Joseph Smith's brother stated that he could get Joe to
- 28:18Speaker 1: tell us where Carly was.
- 28:20Speaker 8: Law enforcement assisted having Joseph Smith meet with his brother,
- 28:25Speaker 8: John Smith, and his mother to talk about things privately.
- 28:29Speaker 7: They told his brother. Oh, I thought she was older.
- 28:33Speaker 10: I thought she was 16 or 17. He wanted to
- 28:36Speaker 10: see if that helped to minimize his culpability and made
- 28:39Speaker 10: him look less bad.
- 28:41Speaker 7: He said it was an accident.
- 28:43Speaker 10: To me, every single thing that Joseph said to his
- 28:47Speaker 10: mother and to his brother was like pilot testing what
- 28:52Speaker 10: he was ultimately going to tell police and jurors. And
- 28:56Speaker 10: he wanted to see if they were willing to believe it.
- 28:58Speaker 10: If his family didn't believe it, Why would a stranger
- 29:01Speaker 10: who's on a jury?
- 29:04Speaker 4: My biggest fears were that they, you know, were going
- 29:07Speaker 4: to find her body somewhere, but I still had some
- 29:11Speaker 4: hope that maybe she was just being held somewhere. All
- 29:14Speaker 4: those hopes were distinguished pretty quickly.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Joseph's brother and mother contacted the sheriff's office and said
- 29:34Speaker 1: Joseph had confessed to killing Carly and had described to
- 29:38Speaker 1: his brother where Carly's body was. We were going to
- 29:44Speaker 1: put Joseph on a phone and Joseph was going to
- 29:47Speaker 1: describe where he had taken Carly and where he had
- 29:51Speaker 1: dumped her. Myself and two other agents went to the
- 29:56Speaker 1: brother's house.
- 29:57Speaker 8: We picked him up.
- 29:58Speaker 1: The brother sat next to me in the passenger seat
- 30:02Speaker 1: and a phone was provided to Joseph.
- 30:04Speaker 4: In the jail.
- 30:06Speaker 1: Joseph stated that he had dumped her body at the
- 30:09Speaker 1: first church on Proctor Road and that Carly's body would
- 30:13Speaker 1: be found along a fence line. We pull into the
- 30:17Speaker 1: parking lot and I can see that there is a
- 30:21Speaker 1: fence line along the backside of this church. I knew
- 30:25Speaker 1: at that point that we were in the right area.
- 30:29Speaker 1: I knew that Carly's body was out there. But I
- 30:32Speaker 1: also knew that evidence-wise, I wanted the first person to
- 30:37Speaker 1: see that body to be a forensic tech, because that
- 30:40Speaker 1: was going to enable us to collect the best evidence possible.
- 30:46Speaker 6: The body of a beautiful 11-year-old girl, Carly Boucher, has
- 30:51Speaker 6: been found. Joseph Smith is under arrest for the abduction
- 30:58Speaker 6: and murder of Carly.
- 31:05Speaker 10: When police found Carly's body, she was naked from the
- 31:10Speaker 10: waist down.
- 31:10Speaker 7: It was pretty clear that she was sexually assaulted.
- 31:13Speaker 10: And she had very obvious ligature marks on her neck,
- 31:18Speaker 10: meaning it was very clear this little girl was strangled
- 31:21Speaker 10: to death.
- 31:24Speaker 5: It was tough.
- 31:25Speaker 8: It was a somber day in our community. I knew
- 31:28Speaker 8: tons of friends and family that were out searching for her.
- 31:31Speaker 8: I mean, an 11-year-old girl was brutally murdered for no
- 31:33Speaker 8: reason whatsoever. I wanted to bring him to justice, and
- 31:38Speaker 8: it was just a sad day.
- 31:51Speaker 4: I walked in the front door and I can see,
- 31:54Speaker 4: you know, my extended family being in the house, my aunts, uncles,
- 31:59Speaker 4: my parents.
- 32:00Speaker 5: And, you know, it was just like a blur.
- 32:02Speaker 4: But I just remember my mom hugging us and telling
- 32:06Speaker 4: us that they found her. And she was no longer
- 32:10Speaker 4: with us. Our lives were never going to be the same.
- 32:14Speaker 2: I went to Sue's house. every day to help because
- 32:22Speaker 2: she was just really having a hard time. The night
- 32:25Speaker 2: that the sheriff came by, I had this feeling. When
- 32:28Speaker 2: I went home, I just knew, I just, something told
- 32:31Speaker 2: me that they had found her. Just as I pulled
- 32:35Speaker 2: up in front of the house, the sheriff knocked on
- 32:38Speaker 2: the door and he told her. She dropped to her
- 32:44Speaker 2: knees and she let out this this bellow. I've never
- 32:53Speaker 2: heard in my life. When he told her that she
- 33:00Speaker 2: was dead, it was horrible.
- 33:17Speaker 4: When we found out who had committed this crime, it
- 33:19Speaker 4: was a bit shocking to know that it was a
- 33:23Speaker 4: father of three daughters.
- 33:26Speaker 5: Words can't describe.
- 33:28Speaker 4: The anger that someone has towards someone who abducts, assaults,
- 33:33Speaker 4: and murders a young girl.
- 33:35Speaker 10: A lot of people mistakenly assume that because somebody is
- 33:40Speaker 10: a child abductor, rapist, and murderer, that they are just
- 33:45Speaker 10: horrible and evil throughout every single aspect of their entire life,
- 33:50Speaker 10: that they are a terrible parent, that they are terrible
- 33:53Speaker 10: at their jobs.
- 33:55Speaker 7: That's not often the case.
- 33:57Speaker 10: In fact, usually the people that are really vile and
- 34:02Speaker 10: commit such despicable acts tend to live relatively normal lives.
- 34:07Speaker 10: They blend in. They have children of their own. They
- 34:11Speaker 10: have a family. They have a job.
- 34:32Speaker 4: We were lucky enough to have our own funeral service
- 34:35Speaker 4: here in New York for Carly.
- 34:38Speaker 5: It was definitely a difficult day.
- 34:42Speaker 4: We had it in a local church and our neighbor
- 34:47Speaker 4: is a deacon and he knew Carly. So he talked
- 34:50Speaker 4: about memories of seeing Carly swinging on the tree swing
- 34:54Speaker 4: and just having a great time in the yard. The
- 34:58Speaker 4: church was packed, friends and family, friends I haven't seen
- 35:02Speaker 4: in years.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Everyone just wanted to come out to support.
- 35:05Speaker 8: Us that day. Once you find a little girl's body,
- 35:15Speaker 8: want to bring him to justice. You know, frankly, you
- 35:17Speaker 8: want to give him the death penalty right then. That's
- 35:20Speaker 8: the human side of it. But there's a process, and
- 35:23Speaker 8: you have to build the case properly. As a parent,
- 35:26Speaker 8: you feel for the family, you feel for the community.
- 35:29Speaker 8: But for him, you want to bring him to justice
- 35:31Speaker 8: as swiftly as possible. Joseph Smith was charged with first-degree murder,
- 35:47Speaker 8: with kidnapping of a child under 12, and then sexual
- 35:51Speaker 8: battery on a child under 12.
- 35:53Speaker 1: The videotape was an amazing piece of evidence. You have
- 35:56Speaker 1: a picture of at least the beginnings of that crime.
- 36:00Speaker 8: John Smith, he had to testify against his brother in
- 36:04Speaker 8: a case where we're seeking the death penalty, and he
- 36:06Speaker 8: did the right thing.
- 36:09Speaker 4: Watching my brother navigate through grief and loss, then I
- 36:14Speaker 4: have to go and sit through a trial where they
- 36:17Speaker 4: go through every single step of what happened to your
- 36:20Speaker 4: loved one.
- 36:20Speaker 5: It's excruciating.
- 36:23Speaker 4: In a way, focusing on making sure that justice was
- 36:27Speaker 4: served was a distraction from the grief and the loss
- 36:31Speaker 4: that we had all experienced.
- 36:34Speaker 1: We know what's about to happen to Carly. That's what
- 36:37Speaker 1: makes that video so shocking and you just want to
- 36:42Speaker 1: reach through there and you want to stop her, you
- 36:44Speaker 1: want to stop him.
- 36:45Speaker 5: You want Carly to scream, you want.
- 36:47Speaker 1: Her to shout. A bad guy has grabbed her and
- 36:51Speaker 1: you can't fathom the trouble she's in and you can't
- 36:55Speaker 1: stop it.
- 36:57Speaker 8: The forensic lab ultimately testified in trial that those pinkish
- 37:00Speaker 8: reddish cotton fibers found in the car were consistent with
- 37:04Speaker 8: the pink shirt that Carly had on when she was found.
- 37:10Speaker 4: As the trial went on, evidence showed that she put
- 37:14Speaker 4: up quite a big fight, but, you know, how can
- 37:16Speaker 4: an 11-year-old overpower a 38-year-old man?
- 37:21Speaker 5: The fear that she must have felt, she was all alone.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Just such a horrible thought to have, to think about
- 37:28Speaker 4: an 11-year-old girl being all by herself when this was
- 37:30Speaker 4: happening to her.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Really no words can describe the.
- 37:33Speaker 4: Feeling that I get when I think about her last
- 37:38Speaker 4: few moments.
- 37:39Speaker 5: She must have been so scared.
- 37:41Speaker 8: The evidence was strong. There was no doubt the jury
- 37:57Speaker 8: was going to find him guilty.
- 38:00Speaker 4: What we were all worried about was his sentencing. Our
- 38:02Speaker 4: minds went right to the next thing.
- 38:04Speaker 5: Let's get him the death penalty. That was our focus.
- 38:08Speaker 5: Carly didn't get to live, why should he get the
- 38:10Speaker 5: chance to live?
- 38:18Speaker 1: We went into a penalty phase, which talked about the
- 38:21Speaker 1: atrociousness of these crimes, about the cruelty of the crimes,
- 38:25Speaker 1: and about the heinousness of the crimes. And then, the
- 38:30Speaker 1: state asks the same jurors to pass a sentence of
- 38:34Speaker 1: death on Joseph Smith. And he, by a 10 to
- 38:39Speaker 1: 2 margin, was found guilty and was sentenced to death.
- 38:45Speaker 4: That was another sigh of relief from me and my family.
- 38:48Speaker 4: We were all happy for this very small victory.
- 38:53Speaker 5: What we didn't know was that it wasn't over yet.
- 39:05Speaker 8: There was a case that came out of the U.S.
- 39:07Speaker 8: Supreme Court on the death penalty. And unfortunately, the Florida
- 39:11Speaker 8: Supreme Court looks at that case, interprets that anything that
- 39:15Speaker 8: was not unanimous was being reversed for sentencing, a new sentencing.
- 39:19Speaker 8: He would still have life in prison. There was no
- 39:21Speaker 8: question he would have life in prison. The question is,
- 39:23Speaker 8: do we get the death penalty? In my eyes, my
- 39:27Speaker 8: boss's eyes, law enforcement's eyes, and the victim's family's eyes, eyes,
- 39:30Speaker 8: you can't do what he did to an 11-year-old girl
- 39:32Speaker 8: and not receive the death penalty. So we were gearing
- 39:36Speaker 8: up to do a resentencing, which means you have to
- 39:39Speaker 8: bring everybody back in, the medical examiner, present all the
- 39:43Speaker 8: evidence to a new jury to seek the death penalty again.
- 39:48Speaker 4: While we were waiting for that to happen, I got
- 39:51Speaker 4: a phone call from my mom to let me know
- 39:52Speaker 4: that Joseph.
- 39:53Speaker 5: Smith was dead.
- 39:58Speaker 8: Joseph Smith died in prison of liver cancer. And I
- 40:01Speaker 8: was happy. And I think most people, when I told
- 40:04Speaker 8: them the news, felt the same.
- 40:07Speaker 4: It was surprisingly very emotional. I broke down and started crying.
- 40:13Speaker 4: It was finally over. It was just a moment of
- 40:19Speaker 4: like a sigh of relief that this is really over now.
- 40:22Speaker 4: This battle has ended.
- 40:27Speaker 8: Carly's mom was a devoted mom and, you know, wanted
- 40:30Speaker 8: justice for her daughter. Unfortunately, she died before Joseph Smith died,
- 40:36Speaker 8: and she didn't actually get to learn he had passed
- 40:38Speaker 8: away in prison.
- 40:41Speaker 10: Carly's mother died of a drug overdose. It seemed like
- 40:45Speaker 10: this was just her only hope. coping mechanism. It didn't matter.
- 40:49Speaker 7: That Joseph Smith received a death sentence or probably even
- 40:53Speaker 7: that he died.
- 40:54Speaker 10: There's nothing that was going to fill the void that
- 40:56Speaker 10: Carly's loss caused, and the family was just never going
- 41:00Speaker 10: to be the same again.
- 41:02Speaker 2: Life wasn't the same when she lost Carly. He destroyed
- 41:07Speaker 2: that family. The whole family just, it destroyed them.
- 41:21Speaker 4: I did go to Florida probably within a year after
- 41:25Speaker 4: Carly's death. It felt special to go and visit Carly's
- 41:29Speaker 4: school where she spent so much time and made friends.
- 41:39Speaker 2: The church where they found her body, they made a
- 41:42Speaker 2: garden there for Carly. I'd go down in the garden,
- 41:45Speaker 2: I'd go on her birthdays, the holidays or whatever. I'd
- 41:48Speaker 2: talk to her. Just tell her what's going on and
- 41:52Speaker 2: tell her we miss her and tell her we love her,
- 41:54Speaker 2: that we won't forget her.
- 42:03Speaker 4: Not only did this horrible tragedy affect my immediate family,
- 42:06Speaker 4: but it affected my extended family as well. I have
- 42:10Speaker 4: a cousin, Matt. When Matt found out about Carly, he
- 42:16Speaker 4: had the same reaction. feeling of helplessness that we all
- 42:19Speaker 4: did and it really impacted him and he just wanted.
- 42:23Speaker 5: To do something to help.
- 42:25Speaker 11: Nothing was going to bring Carly back, but I wanted
- 42:27Speaker 11: to make sure that it never happened to anyone else's family.
- 42:31Speaker 11: And that inspired me to create the Rose Brucia Educational Foundation.
- 42:38Speaker 11: Carly is our image. of our foundation, and we do
- 42:42Speaker 11: everything in memory of Carly. But the motivation for naming
- 42:45Speaker 11: it after my grandmother was so that I would never
- 42:47Speaker 11: exploit Carly's name. I just wanted to go to my
- 42:51Speaker 11: local elementary school and talk to the kids in my
- 42:54Speaker 11: neighborhood and tell them, these are the things that you
- 42:57Speaker 11: need to do to stay safe.
- 42:59Speaker 5: The program is.
- 43:00Speaker 11: In 92 countries across the globe. I'll always do this
- 43:06Speaker 11: because of Carly's memory and in honor of Carly. So
- 43:09Speaker 11: for me, it's the rest of my life.
- 43:19Speaker 4: I think about Carly every day. She wanted to be
- 43:22Speaker 4: the life of the party. She loved being around other kids,
- 43:27Speaker 4: being involved in what everyone else was doing.
- 43:29Speaker 5: She just wanted to be part of it.
- 43:33Speaker 2: She would have been somebody special. You could see it.
- 43:37Speaker 2: She was somebody special. I think she should be remembered
- 43:41Speaker 2: like sunshine.
- 43:45Speaker 4: Butterflies kind of became the symbol of her still being
- 43:50Speaker 4: with us. My brother often sees butterflies and thinks of her.
- 43:55Speaker 4: He has a garden on his deck in his backyard,
- 43:58Speaker 4: and a lot of the plants that he has kind
- 44:03Speaker 4: of draw in the butterflies, and it's just something that
- 44:07Speaker 4: reminds us of her.
- 44:19Speaker 10: Thank you.
- 44:49Speaker 2: Thank you.