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State of MLB w/Jeff Passan: Surprise teams, CBA battle, MiLB stadiums, Ohtani plan + Power Rankings · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: As somebody who enjoys watching baseball cratzy. I hope they
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: don't push for it, because if they do push for it,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to see baseball. All right.
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  Speaker 2: We've got ESPN's Jeff passing with us right now, and
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  Speaker 2: you're seeing him here. You can also see him on
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  Speaker 2: I look this up Sunday Night Baseball coming up, the
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  Speaker 2: first Sunday Night baseball of the year. Beyond the pregame show,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Connors, Tim Kirkchen, our buddy, So make sure you
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  Speaker 2: check him out there.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that's Braves Dodgers. Do I have that right,
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Padres, Braves Padris, Yeah, a j thank you for
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  Speaker 1: saving me.
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  Speaker 3: We're at that point in spring training now, guys, where
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what day it is anymore. So all
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  Speaker 3: I know is I'm gonna be at Yankee Stadium on
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  Speaker 3: Opening Day and the Yankees and Brewers are playing.
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  Speaker 1: That's like laser focus on that right now. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know, like, is it tuesday? It is Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: You're totally giving us the one game out of time action,
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  Speaker 2: which I actually respect and understand.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That is fair, but great to have you on, Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: so I actually want to start here. Then, So if
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  Speaker 2: you look back at the past month, obviously you've visited camps,
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  Speaker 2: you've talked to teams. Has anything in your brain changed
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  Speaker 2: about a team, a player, et cetera. Is there something
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  Speaker 2: that you actually, you know, came back from the road
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  Speaker 2: with and said, I think I'm misjudging this team or
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  Speaker 2: this player and they're going to be much better or
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  Speaker 2: worse than I expected.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard when you go and talk to guys because
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  Speaker 1: this time of year, everyone is so optimistic and they
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  Speaker 1: want to believe the best versions of themselves are going
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  Speaker 1: to be out there. They want to believe that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to stay healthy all season. But I think a
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  Speaker 1: good example of that is, like you see the Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City on my shirt right here, and for the majority
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  Speaker 1: of spring training, I was thinking, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to pick the Royals to win the American League Central.
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  Speaker 1: And the last I made on my spring training tour
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  Speaker 1: was in Lakeland, Florida, earlier this week, and just seeing
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  Speaker 1: the amount of pitching that the Detroit Tigers have, guys
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  Speaker 1: like it's overwhelming. It is exceptional that Cater Montero, guy
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  Speaker 1: who started a playoff game for them and was integral
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  Speaker 1: in their run last year, going thirty one and eleven
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  Speaker 1: down the stretch and making the postseason. He's not even
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  Speaker 1: making the team, and that they can add a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Jackson Job who has frontline potential to a rotation
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  Speaker 1: that already includes the American League scim Winner and Derek
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  Speaker 1: Scobell Jack Flaherty. On top of that, Casey Miz has
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  Speaker 1: looked fantastic this spring. We're not even talking about Alex
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  Speaker 1: Codyet who they signed this offseason. And the biggest part
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  Speaker 1: of it with the Tigers to me is that with
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  Speaker 1: Chris Fetter and Robin lund Is their pitching coaches and
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  Speaker 1: aj Hinch pulling the string as his manager, like they
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  Speaker 1: deploy their pitchers maybe better than any other organization out there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I wound up picking the Tigers to win
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  Speaker 1: the Central and people in Kansas City are not very
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  Speaker 1: happy with me right now.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, we're doing power rankings today. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have the Tigers in my top ten. So now I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna have to change them real quick because I hate
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  Speaker 5: to doing power rankings. I think I think they're kind
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  Speaker 5: of dumb, but that's.
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  Speaker 3: My the worst Like this is where ballplayers and reporters
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  Speaker 3: find common ground.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes there are things that we're going to
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  Speaker 1: argue about. We both agree power rankings suck. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you for that, agent, I appreciate You're welcome.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, the Dodgers are going to be
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  Speaker 5: number one until they lose somewhere in the playoffs. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: so let's just I'm just gonna say Dodgers won every
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  Speaker 5: the field is. There's a giant step down to the
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  Speaker 5: field with just because but we don't need to talk
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  Speaker 5: about By the way, I know it's Atlanta and San
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  Speaker 5: Diego because you get to follow my game on Saturday night,
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  Speaker 5: so you can do the game on Sunday to follow up,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the Fox coverage. That's why I knew what
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  Speaker 5: what game you're doing. But I want to know this,
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  Speaker 5: besides the Tigers and the Dodgers, obviously, is there another
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  Speaker 5: team that no one's talking about that just jumped out
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  Speaker 5: there and you're like, Wow, this team could be good,
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  Speaker 5: because I think the A's can be better than what
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  Speaker 5: people are saying. I know they have a different division,
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  Speaker 5: but I feel like the A's for some reason, we
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  Speaker 5: were at their camp. I know Kats very well. Just
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  Speaker 5: talking to their guys. There's a different feeling that I've
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  Speaker 5: ever gotten from the ye for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the A's are going to take
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  Speaker 1: a step forward, for sure. I don't know if you've
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  Speaker 1: gotten to see Nick Kurtz at all. He's not breaking
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  Speaker 1: with the club, but I think the second he gets there,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be like an all Star caliber first
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  Speaker 1: base bat, Like he's really really good. So the A's
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  Speaker 1: are on the upswing teams that didn't make the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: last year. I had the Rangers winning the American League Pennant.
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  Speaker 1: Now I understand they won the World Series a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years ago, so this isn't exactly going out on
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  Speaker 1: a limb. But there was just so much regression last
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  Speaker 1: year from guys, and I think the regression is going
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  Speaker 1: to be in the positive forum this season. And Jacob
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  Speaker 1: de Gram coming back. We're not going to get two
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  Speaker 1: hundred innings out of him, necessarily, but I still think
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  Speaker 1: that the stuff is there in the mindset. Now it's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit different. I think he recognizes like pushing
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  Speaker 1: your body to the absolute extreme to try and get
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  Speaker 1: everything you can out of your arm is not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: a path to good health. And at this point in
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  Speaker 1: his career, he's in his mid thirties, and I think
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  Speaker 1: he understands that you got to take care of the
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  Speaker 1: arm before everything else, Like arm health needs to be
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  Speaker 1: the priority because the stuff, even if it's not what
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  Speaker 1: it was at his peak, it's still going to be
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  Speaker 1: plenty good to get outs. And rather than be like
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  Speaker 1: the dominant guy who's striking out the world, I think
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  Speaker 1: Jacob de Graham understands like getting outs is the name
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  Speaker 1: of the game. That's the most important thing, and if
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  Speaker 1: I can do it efficiently while still having that same
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  Speaker 1: mentality that I had in the past, finding the best
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  Speaker 1: of both worlds is going to make him, I think,
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  Speaker 1: a better pitcher. And you compound that with Corey Seeger
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  Speaker 1: and with Marcus Simmi. In a full year of Josh
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  Speaker 1: Young step forward from Wyatt Langford, I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ceiling there that the Rangers, compared to last year,
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  Speaker 1: can go reach.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be weird to see Jacob de grum like throwing
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  Speaker 4: balls not at one hundred miles an hour, but hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm here for if it keeps him on the mound
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Is what's that I was just gonna say, let's remember
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  Speaker 1: back in Jacob de Gram's best seasons when he won
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  Speaker 1: his Cyon Awards, he wasn't throwing one hundred regularly like
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  Speaker 1: he was. He was ninety six ninety seven, and it
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  Speaker 1: was it was verlanderish where if he needed a big
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  Speaker 1: pitch then he could put up a ninety nine or
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  Speaker 1: one hundred at that point, but he knows he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: We talk all the time about, oh, is baseball on
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  Speaker 4: a good place or not? I want to go to
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  Speaker 4: Arizona because isn't baseball on a great place? If a
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  Speaker 4: team like Arizona is in the Big Bad Dodgers Division
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  Speaker 4: and they have a twenty two point five million dollar
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  Speaker 4: relief arm in Jordan Montgomery in the bullpen, aren't they
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  Speaker 4: in a good spot? But also, isn't baseball in a
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  Speaker 4: good spot If a team like that can spend like that, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that's as much, you know, a boon to Ken Kendrick,
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  Speaker 1: their owner, as anything. There are plenty of teams in
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  Speaker 1: that sort of middle band of revenues, and the Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 1: just happened to have an owner who's willing to go
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  Speaker 1: out and spend, and I appreciate that very much. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that the Diamondbacks could have brought back
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  Speaker 1: more or less guys the same team that they had
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  Speaker 1: last year when they had the best offense in Major
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  Speaker 1: League Baseball, and you know, some bad relief pitching earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the year and down the stretch, just some bad
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  Speaker 1: luck ended up keeping them out of the postseason. Because
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  Speaker 1: we saw it the year before when they made the
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  Speaker 1: World Series run. Not only did they beat the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they swept the Dodgers. They I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was the greatest domination of this incarnation of the
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Dodgers that I think we have seen. And
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  Speaker 1: so we know that the Diamondbacks have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: go out there and win a championship. And when you
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  Speaker 1: have an owner who's willing to support that, when you
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  Speaker 1: have a general manager and Mike Haysen who's done a
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  Speaker 1: fantastic job of both putting together a homegrown corp but
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  Speaker 1: supplementing it with free agents and via trades, you end
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  Speaker 1: up with a good team. And listen, I suppose having
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  Speaker 1: a twenty two and a half million dollar relief arm
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  Speaker 1: who didn't make the rotation is a good problem to have,
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  Speaker 1: but it also gives them potential chip. I understand that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to want teams to eat some of the
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  Speaker 1: money in Jordan Montgomery's contract. That's a reasonable thing to ask,
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  Speaker 1: but I anticipate him getting moved at some point. I
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  Speaker 1: think the Diamondbacks are going to be strategic about it, though,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to wait until the team is desperate,
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  Speaker 1: and that desperation is going to wind up with whoever
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  Speaker 1: it is trading for him taking the most money.
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  Speaker 5: Desperation sounds like the Yankees to me, I'm just saying
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  Speaker 5: they've lost Garrett Cole, Jordan Montgomery's been there.
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  Speaker 1: Ah.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but it would be
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  Speaker 5: interesting the Diamondbacks division. You mentioned the Diamonbacks are the
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  Speaker 5: last team to beat the Dodgers in the postseason and
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  Speaker 5: they and they handed it to them. Are the Dodgers
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  Speaker 5: bad for baseball with what they've done? And everyone's complaining,
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  Speaker 5: oh the Dodgers, this including how Steinberg or the Yankees.
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  Speaker 5: Yankees are worth still way more than what the Dodgers
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  Speaker 5: are worth. And he's just like boohoo, I need you know,
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  Speaker 5: he's out panhandling for money. Oh, I need money to
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  Speaker 5: do this and do that. But are the Dodgers bad?
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  Speaker 5: Because I love what the Dodgers do, because you know
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  Speaker 5: what they're doing. They're reinvesting in what they got. The
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  Speaker 5: amount of money they made was show hey. The amount
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  Speaker 5: of money they spend on show hey right now, and
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  Speaker 5: people like, oh, it's deferred.
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  Speaker 1: Great.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that they were able to get
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  Speaker 5: that done is even great. Is unbelievable to me that they, hey, great,
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  Speaker 5: you guys did it. So are the Dodgers bad or
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  Speaker 5: good for baseball? I think they're good for baseball.
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  Speaker 1: But I tend with good or bad questions to wind
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  Speaker 1: up somewhere in the middle. And part of that is
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like those words can get twisted a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Here's my perspective on the Dodgers. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're exceptional at just about everything they do. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the lens through which I view that organization. Shoho tani
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  Speaker 1: Aj was in Los Angeles, or at least the Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles sort of metropolitan area for six years, and the
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels had no idea how to leverage him
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  Speaker 1: into something bigger, right business wise, on the field, they
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  Speaker 1: never surrounded him with the winning team and he was
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  Speaker 1: always just sort of on his own island there. What
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers did was they saw this business opportunity and
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  Speaker 1: they went and they maximized it. And the Dodgers are
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  Speaker 1: really good at maximizing things. They have maximized their international pool,
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  Speaker 1: they maximized their scouting apparatus, they maximized their health and
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  Speaker 1: player development departments. They maximize just about everything. And that's
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  Speaker 1: where when people complain about, like the disparity that the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers have with everybody else, Yeah, the money thing is
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  Speaker 1: really true. And as somebody who lives in Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: is somebody who grew up in Cleveland, somebody who's rooted
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  Speaker 1: in the Midwest, I get it. I understand it. When
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  Speaker 1: you see what the Dodgers are spending and all of
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  Speaker 1: the Central Division teams, all ten of them, pale in
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  Speaker 1: comparison to that, you're like, how is this a fair sport?
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  Speaker 1: But the rejoinder to that is because everyone agreed to
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  Speaker 1: this system. Everybody agreed in a collective bargaining agreement that
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  Speaker 1: this was going to be the rules of engagement in
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  Speaker 1: figuring out who is a champion every year, and until
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers are operating outside the parameters of those rules,
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  Speaker 1: I have a difficult time sitting here and saying that
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  Speaker 1: they're bad or that they're evil, or that they're problematic,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody was on board with this system, that they
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  Speaker 1: simply are better at leveraging than the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: teams out there, and they have help with the money.
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  Speaker 1: Like you cannot discount that, guys. It matters, and it
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  Speaker 1: plays and it works. But we have seen organizations that
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  Speaker 1: have lots of money that spend on payroll that do
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  Speaker 1: these things and don't have the success of the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: So I think simultaneously we should acknowledge that the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: do have an advantage because of money, but not discount
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they are better at just about everything
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  Speaker 1: than everyone else. And that's where you end up with
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  Speaker 1: this super team, when you have a team that has
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  Speaker 1: those advantages and knows how to use them better.
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  Speaker 4: With all that being said, how hard owner is going
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  Speaker 4: to push for this salary cap. We already technically have
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  Speaker 4: a soft salary cap, but how hard are they going
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  Speaker 4: to push this time around.
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  Speaker 1: Remains to be seen as somebody who enjoys watching baseball cratzy,
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  Speaker 1: like watching the game on the field. I hope they
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  Speaker 1: don't push for it, because if they do push for it,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to see baseball Like that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: this comes down to, and it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: real window, I think, into Major League Baseball and into
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  Speaker 1: its owners and into the league's priorities and visions for
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  Speaker 1: the future. Just how hard they lean into the idea
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  Speaker 1: that a salary cap is they must have this time around.
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  Speaker 1: If they do, that means that they are prepared to
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  Speaker 1: shut down the sport. Because look, unless something miraculous happens,
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  Speaker 1: MLB is going to lock out the players in early
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  Speaker 1: December of twenty twenty six. Like that's just Rob Manford
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  Speaker 1: telegraphed it already. It's part of their playbook, it's part
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  Speaker 1: of what they use. It's trying to get leverage. Like
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  Speaker 1: I get it, because those months, you know, during the offseason,
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  Speaker 1: you're not games. But this has a chance to be
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  Speaker 1: a lot darker and a lot worse than four years
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  Speaker 1: ago when we saw this same thing happening, barreling toward
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  Speaker 1: Opening Day and wondering are we going to have baseball
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  Speaker 1: and I just wonder, and I look forward to asking
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  Speaker 1: owners this going forward. I feel like there's positive momentum
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  Speaker 1: in the game right now. I feel like baseball is
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: in a pretty good place. The pitch Clock Worked ABS
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  Speaker 1: Challenge is probably coming next year, and I really liked
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: it this spring. You have stars up and down the sport,
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  Speaker 1: led by the guy who is the most recognizable baseball
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  Speaker 1: player in at least a quarter century. And if we're
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: taking Choho Tani, what do we go back to Ken
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  Speaker 1: Griffy Junior like in his prime? Probably so. And beyond that,
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  Speaker 1: the amount of young talent in the game is great.
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  Speaker 1: You have all these good things going for you. Is
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  Speaker 1: it worth it? That's the question that they need to
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  Speaker 1: ask themselves, and that's the question that fans need to
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  Speaker 1: ask as well. Is it worth it to take a
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  Speaker 1: great era of Major League Baseball that we are in
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  Speaker 1: the midst of right now and absolutely torpedo it in
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  Speaker 1: pursuit of financial gains? There is sanity, guys to be
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: found in negotiation in a non capped system. I'm just
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: curious if Major League Baseball owners are going to agree
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  Speaker 1: FT fan get after it.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, when you were talking your cadence and
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: your rhythmic, your rhythmic cadence was Tim Kirchin. I'm like, wow,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: he's been around Tim way too long. Just the way
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: you were talking and the way the words are coming out,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: it was pretty amazing. So I don't know if that's
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: a bad thing depending on no, no, no.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, dude, that's the highest compliment imaginable. I need
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: my voice to crack a little more. But you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: aside from.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: That, yeah, just the way, just the way you were talking,
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: it was, it was, It was great.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So I love what you just said.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: That was a great answer about the salary cap, and
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I agree because it could get really ugly and it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: a bad time for it to happen. It's never a
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: good time. But also we had Andrew Miller on yesterday
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: and said, look, all these other leagues have caps, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: there's been lockouts and strikes and everything, and all these
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: other league with caps too, So it doesn't really do anything.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: But Mike, forget all that. Let's talk about something even
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: worse than the cap that's coming, because I'm talking about
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: this year. Okay, there's two teams that are playing in
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: minor league baseball parks. Two two Major League baseball teams
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: are playing in minor league parks, and the pictures of
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: the Rays taking Steinberger Field into the Rays the new
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Ray's home, and then we haven't even really seen pictures
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: of Sacramento yet. And god forbid, if the A's are
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: called the Sacramento A's because they're playing in Sacramento, what
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: the heck is happening? How is it feasible or possible
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: that Major League Baseball has two teams playing in minor
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: league parks.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I wrote about this a couple of weeks ago, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: when we look at the minor league parks AJ, we're
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: just taking it as like, yeah, you know, they're either
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: moving or things are problematic with their STADIUMSUA and they
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: had to do this. Now, this is something that goes
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: back for both of them about two decades. And that's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: my whole issue with the thing. It's that they have
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: had a long long time to try and solve this problem,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and because it festered, and because it weighed around unresolved,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you wound up with these panic moves. Now I think
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: they're a little bit different. The Rays would not be
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: playing in stein Bernerfield right now if not for the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: hurricanes that came through and damaged Tropicana Field. But at
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the same time, you know, the Raves Stadium situation has
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a chance to get even uglier than what the A's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: turned into. And you know, it wouldn't surprise anybody if
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the Rays ended up moving now. I know Rob Manford
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: wants to keep them around there, and the showdown, the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: inevitable showdown between Major League Baseball and Stut's dern Berg,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: the owner of the Rays, is brewing right now. But
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you know you guys were talking about earlier, the A's
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: have a chance to surprise, and I think in the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: American League East, especially now that it looks like Shane
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: McClanahan avoided major injury, Like I was tempted to pick
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the Rays not just go to the playoffs, but to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: win the American League East. I think they are a sneaky,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: very very good team, fundamentally sound, they can pitch well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Their bullpen is going to be awesome this year, and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to hit enough, and Junior Kamenaro
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: has a chance to be a real star. So there
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is a scenario in which we have playoff games in
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: minor league parks, and that, to me is where it's
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: really going to stand out and be like this is
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: major League baseball in a minor league park? Is this
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: really what the league stands for? Is this really what
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the league wants to look like? Apparently, so it's a reality.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And Rob Manford called it charm and intimate. And as
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know in the story, I had an editor who
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: who added this line. I was very appreciative of it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Charming and intimate is what realtors say when the house
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: is small, like, that's what we have right here. It's
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just it's just a it's just a mediocre version of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: what should be, which is the big, beautiful ballparks that
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball games are normally played in.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: That is so good, coming from someone who has lived
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of life in New York City and gone
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: on a lot of those little apartment looks where they're like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: you're really gonna love this. It's really charming. It's a closet,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and it's yours for seven thousand dollars a month. That
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is New York City for a lot of areas. Anyway,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: all right, I want to ask you about love. The
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: answer I want to ask you about Otani. Okay, So
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Dodgers won the World Series last year. Otani had a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: ridiculous season as a DH What do we expect from
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: him this year, especially as far as the pitching situation.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I know you've written a book about pitching and obviously
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the problem we have in Major League Baseball. I don't
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: want to forget how much he's actually had to go
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: under the knife for the arm, still perform with the bat,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and then figure out how the Dodgers are going to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: make sure that he can pitch for them but not
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: sacrifice the bats. So have you learned anything in the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: spring training time period about how do you think they're
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: going to play this out with him?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I wish I could take the experience that I had
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: from reporting the arm and apply it to Otani. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: he's such a unique scenario. I think the Dodgers are,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you know, they're just sort of winging it. And that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: not to suggest they're being flip about how they're approaching
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it with him. I just think there's no playbook.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: Like because Otani bats, and because this is his second,
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: you know, major elbow reconstruction, and because he's been shut
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: down for thirty something days in between the last time
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: he pitched and his forthcoming bullpen, he's essentially gonna have
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: to build back up and it's a weird roller coaster
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: that he's been on.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers have so much depth, though, guys that there's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: there's just no rush to get him back. I think
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts said it, like, what's important is that we
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: have him ready for October. And that's the way the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Dodgers approached just about everything. If you want to say, like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: what's the advantage that the Dodgers have, part of it
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is that Andrew Friedman, very early on in his career
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: understood the advantage of depth and roster construction. And what
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: he's been able to supercharge with the Dodgers is the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: amount of depth that they have. And part of that
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is because they've done such a great job of building
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: up arms in their farm system. You know, they the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: number of non first round picks who turn into big
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: league arms for the Dodgers is exceptional. Like they're just
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: really good at pitching development. They haven't been as good
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: at keeping him healthy, but just in terms of developing
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like quality big league arms, they've been fantastic. And so
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: they have a lot of runway with Otani. They don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: need to rush anything back. But what people who work
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: with Shoeo Tani have learned is that he will tell
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you like he's going to serve as the barometer. The
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: medical staff is going to help him along the way
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and be there to support him and give him thoughts
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and ideas. But in the end, what Otani's body is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: telling him is what he follows. And the fact that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: he's managed to do this two way thing guys as
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: long as he has and be as successful as he
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: has shows the great relationship that he has with knowing
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: how his body is feeling and knowing what it needs.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of guys out there, a lot
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of guys who play who just don't ever understand their
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: body well enough to maximize it. I think that's maybe
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: sho Hao Tani's superpower, that he gets what he needs
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and can figure out how to get to the place
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: where he's going to perform the best.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: Jeff for me, you go, I got two things for you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: One, I want to know how Shohey's going to rehab
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: because it's impossible because he has to DH So when
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: you figure that one out, you can write another book
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: on it. Because the Dodgers, I don't even think know
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: how you can't send him to Oklahoma City to pitch
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: five innings and then catch the concord to fly back
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: to LA to DH that night.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: So that's gonna be.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Sim sim games, sim games. It's just going to be,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: you know, that's all. That's all you can do. It's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not like it's not ideal, but you're exactly right. You
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: can't send him out for minor league rehab start. So
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that's that's the the interesting part about Tani. Everything he
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: does is different than everybody else because that singular thing
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he's trying to do play both ways is different from
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: everyone else.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: And then last thing before we let you go, I
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: can tell how much you love baseball. I'm super happy
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: you didn't leave for basketball. So thank you for sticking
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: around for baseball because we need more people like you
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to talk about the sport the way you talk about it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: So thank you for sticking around and you know, trudging
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: it out with boring old baseball.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: So thanks Joe.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's very kind of you to say, Jay, I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: appreciate it, and Uh, as as I said the day
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that the decision was made, baseball is better anyway.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you, perfect way to end well, Jack,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks for hopping on man.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Good to see you appreciate the time. Thank you boys,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and happy opening Day to you guys and everyone else.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Can't wait to see how.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Crowds wants to say go Eagles before you leave. I'm
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: just saying he wants to say fly Eagles for he
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: won't say it. He's scared.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: But just so, I'm just gonna say, am I allowed
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to get the finger on foul Territory? Because if so,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you're going to bring it right out in me.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: It's okay, it's okay, it's just another championship for Philly.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: But Casey's got a lot of them.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're doing okay exactly.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, life is good. Thank you Japping. No, Unfortunately we're
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: on TV too, so we can't do it. Trust me.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: AJ is very frustrated about it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Every day.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: He gives me the finger right after the show. Thanks chef,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: good to see it. Take it, fellas, let's do it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Power rankings. Right before the seas And starts. Eric Kratz
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: is going to give us his one through ten while
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: AJ shakes his head. Here's the order of operations. Krats
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: one through ten, we make fun of him. AJ one
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: through ten, we make fun of him. Scott one through
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: ten we go to break gokrats.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: All right, well, I just popped poppy and pasted my
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: last power rankings because nothing's changed. That'll make what do
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: you mean, No, you can't do that. There's happy I
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: was like a week ago.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'll make it go.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: You have to have different power rankings because it was
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: a week ago.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Except I bumped the Yankees down. They lost two of
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: their starters, and since we did the power rankings, the
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Red Sox figured out who's playing third base in the turmoil,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: so I bumped them in. Okay, the Orioles are now
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: very very They're representative of who I think is going
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: to win the American League East, and so that's where
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I have. I have everybody else in the same order.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I just bumped the knock below the Orioles and the
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Red Sox slid in there. The Mariners, I thought they
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: were gonna make a move at the end. I had
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: them at ten. They're in oblivion now.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't really have much hate on here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I have one thing.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: The Orioles are a little high for me. Other than that,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I think just because Kyle Gibson, I love you, but
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Grayson out Gunner out eh.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But okay, do we.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Feel like the Reds belong here now, or you're really
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: projecting yourself forward.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I do believe they belong here now, and maybe I'm
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm just automatically saying certain certain players in their
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: lineup are gonna have Matty McLean's going to be one
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: hundred percent healthy, Freedom's going to drive in one hundred runs,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: you know. I think I think, you know, Candelario is
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: gonna do more than people expect. I think Noelvi's, you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: he's got some juice to be able to add to
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: that lineup. I think, thank you, appreciate their appreciate their
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: pitching staff not getting enough love for what they did,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: and then they added an innings eater, and I just
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: think I needed a team from the Central in there,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: and I think that's who's gonna win the Central. I
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: know I don't have the I don't have the al Central,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: but they're just gonna beat each other up.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. I don't hate the Reds.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I like the Reds a lot this year, and just
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I look at power Inanks a little differently where I
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: take things from last year. I factor in the offseason
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and then other teams need to prove it for me.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: AJ what do you have?
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, we got similar lists a little bit.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I changed mine, though, since uh uh, how could you
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: how could you change? You talked to passing. Power rankings
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: are willing, they're they're they're fluent, right, so I'm changing
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: since we talked to passing.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So here we go.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: This list is wrong, but we're gonna show it anyways.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Producer Lady Dodgers one, Diamondbacks two because Corven Burn's best
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: fitt starter, Philly's three, Braves four, Matt's five. Then we're
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: gonna finally get to a American League team.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Red Sox.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I think what they did this offseason was awesome. I
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: love the Crochet ad, I love the Bregman ad. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: love Christian Campbell is gonna be there from the start.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: I think what they did was awesome. Dueler, I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: is gonna have a big year. This is where it
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: goes wrong. I'm putting the Rangers instead of the Yankees.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: So Kop crossed that out. Rangers. Okay, why cause pass
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: and talked me into it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Now, I just like Jeff Passion. It seems like a
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: n Spello.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, eight, we're going Padres, nine, Orioles and then ten
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: or Yankee. So Yankee fans don't come at me. Krats
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: gave all the reasons why they're not that great this year.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Yell at him, not me. I agreed with him, so
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: he talked me into putting the Yankees down to ten.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: So yell at pass and Yellowcrats, don't yell at me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Those are my power rankings, Scott. If you don't like them,
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: I don't care.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Eric.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: They could change by it in the next minute.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I could change. I don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: So the Astros got to eleven for you, Yeah, okay,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I like the Padres too, and I'll get
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to mine in a moment. Just to go one against
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Kratz's list for a sec. Why don't you like san
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Diego Kratz too much? Turnover that bull?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: That star rotation looks a little shallow after Cecim King
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: right now just looks like they're gonna need to score
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: a ton of runs. Last year that offense came around,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: they lost Jerkson Profar. I just feel like you're not
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: gonna have I think Merril and Tatise are two guys
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: who could really, you know, do better. Guys who are
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: returning that could do better than they did last year,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: but everybody else, I feel like it is gonna either
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: regress or kind of stay the same. So that's why
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: you needed to add. I feel like they just lost
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: a little too much to put him in the top ten.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be a playoff contending team the
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: whole season, not a top ten.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: By the way, we have a show called Friar Territory.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: It's really good.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Kyle Glazer, Mike Cameron, heath Bell knows his padres ball.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: So check it out.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: QR code bottom corner of the screen, and here comes
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: my list. Shocker Dodgers one looked not even great in Tokyo,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and that's the problem that should be the problem for
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: everyone else. They outscored the Cubs, what like ten to four.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: No Freddy, no MOOKI I got the Phillies two looks
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: like a really good regular season team for me. Yet
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: to be determined how that'll play out in the playoffs,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: but I think that rotation is going to really help
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: in the regular season. Right now, Wizardo, towards the back
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: end of your rotation, that's pretty damn good.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Diamondbacks. I've been very high on them.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: They won eighty nine games last year, they picked up
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: the best pitcher available in free agency, amongst other moves
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that they made. Met's picked up the best bat by far.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That should be a really good offense. There's some questions
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: with the pitching staff, that's fair. I have them really
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: close with the Braves. Strider and Acunya aren't back right now,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: so I put them at five and feel good with that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Noticed that I have all National League teams one through six,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: which is exactly how I felt last season. Looked felt
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: like there were many more Nationalague teams better than AL teams.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Not much changed in the offseason to convince me otherwise.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I think the Padres are still good. I thought they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: were one or two last year. Towards the end of
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: the season, right they were the closest team to beating
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, but they did lose people, so I dropped
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: them down. But I still think they're going to be good,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: and I think King and Cease at the top will
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: be a dominant duo Tigers. They did some things this
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: offseason as well, and I just think that you look
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  Speaker 2: at their rotation in spring training and that's a team
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  Speaker 2: that jumps up a little bit. For me, plus Jackson
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  Speaker 2: job as what you're five starter, and he's the best
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  Speaker 2: prospect in baseball best pitching prospect. Orioles snuck back into
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  Speaker 2: my list since we last did this at eight. That
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  Speaker 2: partially has to do with the Yankees dropping. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Earls pick up some wins that they might not
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  Speaker 2: have had because I think the Yankees are little worse.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still going to put the second place team in
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  Speaker 2: baseball from last year in my top ten. I don't
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  Speaker 2: feel great about them right now at nine. And then
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  Speaker 2: I like the Royals guys. I think the Royals offense
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  Speaker 2: is going to be better, and I think their pitching
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  Speaker 2: is great, and I think they've done a lot over
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  Speaker 2: the last year and a half to improve themselves. So
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  Speaker 2: I put them in the ten spot right now and
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  Speaker 2: think that they'll be a first or second place team
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  Speaker 2: in the American League Central. You want to make fun
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  Speaker 2: of me for a moment or should we.
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  Speaker 1: Just stop this?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you have you have two AL Central teams before
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  Speaker 5: the Rangers. That's where my m the Red Sox and
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  Speaker 5: the Red Locks. That's where my question comes in.
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  Speaker 2: You want to throw Rangers at me? Okay, but let's
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  Speaker 2: remember they didn't make the playoffs last year. They already
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  Speaker 2: have two starting pitcher injuries that are pretty significant. So
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  Speaker 2: this is power rankings. Things change, They're fluid throughout the year,
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  Speaker 2: and Boston I do like, I just want to see
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  Speaker 2: it on the field.
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  Speaker 1: First.
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  Speaker 2: This was not a good team last year, so I
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  Speaker 2: just want to see it. I'm with you, I think
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  Speaker 2: they can very easily crack my top ten next time.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to see and this is why we
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  Speaker 2: do it every week or two or month. We'll figure
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  Speaker 2: that out, but for now, I'm going to go off
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  Speaker 2: some things that I saw last year.
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  Speaker 1: But I see what you guys are saying. I understand.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, make fun of us, let us know what we
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  Speaker 2: did right wrong, Who had the best list. If you're
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  Speaker 2: watching this afterward, comment below.