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VPR Reunion 1 with Deanna Cheng · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Drama. Darling, Drama, Darling Drama. Darling. There is drama today,
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  Darling, welcome back. We are very excited today because we have the
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  reunion, Part one of vander Pomp Rules to Uncover joining me this week and
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  actually a rejoined from last week, a carryover. It's Deanna Chang. I've
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  been literally sitting in the same position since last recording, just in waiting with
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  baited breath for this one. And here we are as we should because there's
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  nothing more important than these are the days. These are the days of our
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  lives. This is it's all happening. So last night, Dianna, it
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  was so funny because like I had put on my Patreon, Hey, you
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  guys, let's get on the discord and chat it up, and you know,
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  we can chat while we're watching it and me, of course depending on
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  that screener. As you know, Deanna, last week, they didn't post
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  it for me until exactly nine pm Eastern when it was airing, so I
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  had just anticipated it would be the same for this week, so I had
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  no expectations of watching it earlier. I was happy to, you know,
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  log on and refresh and refresh right and sure it of six o'clock. My
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  time comes and I'm on discord with everybody and we're all like popping off and
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  we're like, people are like, I've got coffee and vodka because it's you
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  know, it's all East Coasters, right right, right right, you know,
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  people are popping add or all to stay up. You know, it's
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  just a lot of you know whatever. I'm kidding. But we were ready
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  to go, and and sure enough they're like, here we go, and
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  I'm refreshing like no one's refreshed before. And this sucker did not refresh.
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  They never said. I never got that screener. Stop it. It's never
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  happened to me. And I I emailed the PR person who usually sends it
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  to me, who apparently was out of the office that day, but still,
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  and I was, I was like, hi and sorry to bother,
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  just you know, nine pm Eastern and usually I have a screener by now,
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  but I haven't gotten it. And I'm you know, not panick or
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  anything. I'm just a maniac and that's really excited. But he got back
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  to me and was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna copy a couple
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  of these people and make sure you get it. Crickets crickets from them.
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  I haven't checked this morning to see if I even got it, but oh
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  boy, was I ghosted on that screener. And I replied and I said,
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  how could you do this to me? Question mark? Yes, yes,
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  so here I was what. I was not watching it in real time,
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  but I had a blast almost. I would say something that I would
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  like to do again is just watch other people respond to it because I'm not
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  watching it. But everyone on Discord was like, oh boy, you know
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  so and so said this, and then now they're getting up worm with a
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  mustache, and then of course all of the commentary was hysterical. So I
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  highly suggest next time that we do a live watch, we do it again
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  on Discord and or I'm also trying to do trying to figure out a live
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  watch party where we can maybe see each other like on Zoom or something like
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  that. But that's that's really fun. Yeah, yeah, we're we're trying
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  to figure it out. We're trying to figure it out. And there are
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  a lot of people who cannot get past the rules on the Discord, like
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  they keep just seeing, you know, they join Discord and they get to
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  cheatah chat, and it just shows them the rules, and they can't get
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  into any of the chats, and so they are just fit to be tied.
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  And I've got it, let me tell you. Oh, I know.
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  And it's not just one person. It's like several people, so it's
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  not just a one person thing. I know, darlings, I've got I'm
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  trying to work it out. I have, I've got the message in,
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  I've got the screenshots sent into the Patreon and I'm like, help, my
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  darlings. They are lost and I'm losting. I don't stuck. They're like
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  in purgatory. They can't get into the Cheetah chat. Well, you know
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  what, I joined, and now let me look and see if I'm in
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  the Cheetah Chat. I think i am, but now I'm scared. It's
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  not on the main page. Are you did you download discord? I did?
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  Oh, okay, great, I'm there. General introductions, Vanda Prumpoles.
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  Yeah, I'm waight, I'm in Okay. Well, you know what,
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  there are a select few that cannot get past the rules and could that
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  be user error? Just asking, not judging, No, I hear you.
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  And everyone is willing to say it is user error because everyone's saying I'm
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  too old for this. Please help me. They're waving the white flag and
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  I'm going I trust me, I'm with you, and I can't believe this.
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  So they are full, full on, ready to take ownership. But
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  I don't know how to assist them. You know, it seems like very
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  weird. Like I look at the page that they're sending me, and it
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  does seem like very strange to me. So I'm giving them the benefit of
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  doubt that it's not them. It's the discord. But you know, and
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  I try one thing, Amy, Yeah, just trouble thing to the group.
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  Yes. Ps, I had a similar thing. It's almost as if
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  the Bravo universe was so jacked up last night, like the energy was so
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  intense that things were going left in technology, you know, because we have
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  Spectrum now, I gotta tell you, Amy, Yeah, I don't understand
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  we have. I would love to. I would love to because I've I've
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  asked my husband what are we paying for spectrum? Do you know what I'm
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  saying, because because what my experience of it is that we have it streaming
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  through Apple TV. Okay, but I don't feel all we have television,
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  if that may like, I don't have the yes, something right, it
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  is. Okay, you'll have it through ag'll connect it through Apple TV.
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  I hear you, okay, but but I got to tell you based on
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  like what the monthly number is. I'm like, this feels like we should
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  be having television as it should be. But anyway, Apple very confusing.
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  You know, listen, I don't mind it. I have a lot of
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  notes for just that's. Yeah, that's you gotta put that over the side.
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  But ten minutes eight fifty h I say, let me get my Bravo
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  on and let me get started here. And Spectrum was, uh just pin
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  Wheeling. Couldn't get it, couldn't get it. I reset the whole Apple
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  TV. I did a restart, restart, Oh, restart reset, can
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  get into not I got into h HBO, no problem, every other app,
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  no problem, Spectrum, spin Wheeling. So I said, I said,
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  I'm doing a full factory reset. To my head, I said,
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  I'm going in for a full he goes. You have to log back into
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  everything right before I did, right, I said, But I can't get
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  in right before I did. I saw. I said, let me see
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  if there's a software update. Oh wow, I am very impressied. Okay,
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  so with that. So with that said, I got in now.
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  I was very proud of myself. So here is what I want to ask
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  the Discord people. And you're going to say to yourself, Deanna Chang.
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  You know you're talking rude to us right now, but I'm just gonna ask
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  this simple lay it down, you're all you're all going to be I think
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  I know where you're going. I think I know where you're going with this.
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  Did you and I know you've asked them, did you tap the top
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  three lines on the top left corner. Okay, I didn't ask them that
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  because that brings you into the other chats. Now, this is going to
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  be offensive to people because I'm sure there is actually an issue, but I
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  just want to ask them that question. No, I'm glad you. I'm
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  glad you did. Maybe they didn't. Hey, look, I've I think
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  I have just ignored those three lines. I've neglected those three lines before.
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  I'm not You're not above neglecting three lines. That is what you're saying to
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  me right now. Okay, Well you've heard it here. First. I
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  hope that I hope that I get a flood of messages on the Patreon saying
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  Deanna Chang saved our lives. We are now in discord and we're ready to
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  get popping' Okay, okay, now that we have that. Either way,
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  I'm having a rough start this morning, baby daughter. Last night, well,
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  first of all, let me just back it up for a second.
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  Bartender Brett aka my Bretteger business manager, Brett came down with We had we
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  had family in town last weekend, my brother and sister in law. Great
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  weekend. Come Monday, they they head on out. Brett all of a
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  sudden just gets sick, right, And I'm like, oh, no,
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  you were he was sick three weeks ago. Okay, three weeks ago he
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  was. That's certainly not enough time in between. I know. That's so
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  I'm I rate, I'm I rate. Right at this point, I'm going,
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  this is not right. You need to go to the doctor immediately.
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  This is it's probably the same thing that never went away. Blah blah blah.
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  So then he is just coughing and coughing and sniffling and coughing, and
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  I'm just like, go away from me with this. I'm like Phaedra to
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  Apollo in that garage, go away with from me with this. And so
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  he's cordon in the back room, I hold up in the guest room,
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  and I'm just pushing through this whole week because he's he He's worthless to me
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  at this point, He's absolutely worthless. So it's me, bitch. Yeah,
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  just absolute garbage written off. Yeah. And I basically was like just
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  doing everything plus work working. I gotta work yet I working, like the
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  gate Guple said, I work, I work it get working, and I'm
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  just trying to do everything I can. And finally last night, you know,
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  I was thinking, are you better? Are you better? You're better?
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  I mean, I don't know, He's coming around the mountain. Then
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  all of a sudden, baby daughter in the middle of the night, she
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  just starts hacking and hacking and hacking, and she's coughing and she can't stop.
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  And we're just doing everything. We can't you name it. We did
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  it. I was outside with her, you know, you know, we
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  did the steam, we did the the honey, we gave her cough medicine.
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  I mean, we like everything. It wasn't working. I mean up
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  so late, you know, it was like probably almost three o'clock in the
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  morning before when she woke up at like twelve, she was probably up for
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  about three hours and it was miserable. We all finally get to sleep,
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  and then I wake up at like four and now I'm coughing, and now
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  I'm sick, and now I've got it, and then we now we've said
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  it, and so I just want you to know that's where we're at and
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  I'm actually pushing through. To be honest with you, I feel pretty good
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  right now, pretty damn good. It sounds sick, I don't. I
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  took a little day quill right before we popped down here, And to be
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  honest with you, I haven't coughed much at all since I've been up.
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  Like I had the coughing attack. You know how it's so much worse when
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  you're laying down. Yeah, So now I just feel like I'm going to
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  be able to get through the day. Great. I'm just worried about tonight.
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  You know, let's just say say it like it is. When you
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  lay down, it's gonna get shitty. But whatever, But thank you for
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  bearing with me. And there will be no AWE video today because of the
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  likes of which I look like are not exactly reunion chic, you know what
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  I mean. I'm not in a revenge dress like Arihanna, I don't have
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  the best glam going on, but you look really pretty, you really do.
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  You look natural and pretty, and you have the closing classes on and
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  you actually could hit record, no problem. I love you, Deanna so
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  much. Fact, I'm so happy that you're here again and looking forward to
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  hearing so many of your thoughts on the vander Pomperolls reunion. Before we get
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  into that, let's just serve up a couple stories in Serving Dish, Serving
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  Dish well, Deanna, I just want to tackle this story because I haven't
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  had a chance to really discuss this, but you know, the whole Kroy
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  Bierman and Kim Zulsiac situation. The update which is actually came in a few
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  days ago. I'm a little late to it, but Kroy is alleging that
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  Kim has a gambling problem, which is something that we all knew, of
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  course, but he's saying that. Page six is reporting that Kroy claims that
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  Kim's gambling has financially devastated the family and he is requesting that she undergo a
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  psychological evaluation because of the quote unquote compulsions she's presented. She apparently has been
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  spending substantial amount of time and marital funds on gambling, and I love I
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  love this other games of chance, he claims in the documents. I never
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  heard that it's funny gambling and other games of chance. I mean, you
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  know that that's like a whole category. So we're talking like that's anything from
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  like you go right up to your local pub and you're you're just hitting those
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  little tiny slots, you know, the card games or what have you.
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  Okay, He says that he alleges that kim Is her time is so consumed
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  with online gambling that she cannot properly take care of their four minor children.
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  So I know this is getting really really dark. So he says that he
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  wants her tested for mental health issues such as depression, narcissis, stick personality
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  disorder. Well, we all know that if your housewife you have I mean,
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  I mean, we don't be tested. We don't need that test.
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  We've certainly issued that test a while ago. But okay, bipolar disorder and
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  more. Per the documents, As a parrot proof of Zolciak's alleged gambling addiction,
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  Beerman attached scanned copies of bank statements. So he's bringing some receipts here
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  and check's allegedly showing thousands of dollars in withdrawals, so he is uh.
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  He has issued while his lawyer has issued a motion for psychological evaluation for the
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  I Love This part, the Don't be Tardy Star. And you know this
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  comes on the heels of Kim recently saying that she is concerned about Kroy's marijuana
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  smoking. She has concerns about the safety of their four minor children. So
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  let me get this straight. We got a p had and a gambling addict,
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  and Tracy's not even there anymore. So who's taking care of these kids?
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  Gosh? Now, Amy, first of all, you know she is
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  a walking red flag. So I just have to say, Chroy, you
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  know you thought, how can I help you? Young man? But did
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  we know in the show that she had a gambling problem? Well, yeah,
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  I mean I got red flags from that later on though, So for
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  example, there were there was some foreshadowing moments early on where she did say
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  I love gambling. Damn she did. She did talk about that a little
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  bit, However, it wasn't until more recently when she was in a confessional
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  where she admitted to saying, yeah, I went over to this casino and
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  I lost two hundred and fifty thousand. Dang, that's a bad weekend.
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  And so that opened my eyes. That was a huge statement she made in
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  a confessional. I thought, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars that is no
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  small beans. You have a problem that's reckless, and you're clearly living beyond
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  your means. I mean red flags, Yeah, I mean listen, she's
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  she's drinking out of a red Solo cup. I mean, there's nothing more
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  a red flag and than a red Solo cup with wine. Yeah. Gambling
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  is the kind of thing that I just I don't know, gambler, you
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  know, it's the kind of thing that scares scares me. Ooh, it
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  just feels more than you know, that little pot that she's saying, he
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  smokes. Yeah, that's like little little candy cane compared to gam Gambling terrifying
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  to me. Of all the addictions. It scares me. I know,
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  my dad has the same feeling about gambling. He was always like, I
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  can't even watch movies where people are losing money, you know, because it
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  makes him so uncomfortable, because you know, and my dad is so responsible
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  about money and like, you know, just pays to like never a credit
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  card dad, or you know, he's just so great with money. So
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  it's and I feel the same way. It really makes me nervous. And
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  yeah, so it is interesting that her real you know, slap back to
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  him is this marijuana. It's like, okay, you don't really have much
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  of a like to stand on. But so that's that's the update on them.
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  Not a ton of news right now, just because obviously we want to
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  get right into the vander Pump Rules reunion recap. So Deanna Chang, let's
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  get into that. Oh people hate that sound okay, So wow, wow,
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  I think we need to call out the trailer first. I think we
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  need to call out the trailer that was one hundred yards away from Sena that
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  Raquel was in hold away also, not only how great that was that she
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  should be put somewhere, you know, it's like there's so many metaphors right
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  one. She's nowhere to be found right now. She's probably she's in the
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  trailer somewhere in the universe that we don't know, but she's also hidden away,
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  much like some of the news we just recently learned from Arianna's appearance on
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  her Call Her Daddy the other day, she said that Raquel was hidden away
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  in a hotel while Tom and Tom were doing that Watch what Happens Live interview,
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  and so this is just really par for the course of how sketchy it
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  all is. And that trailer did not look nice, did it. You
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  know, Listen, I've been in worse. I've been given smaller and worse
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  trailers. So that's Star Wagon. It was not. It was not a
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  very nice Star Wag. I'd say it was medium. You know, it
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  can get a lot better, and it can get a lot worse, quite
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  frankly, So I mean, yeah, I love the editing cut from the
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  from hearing Andy's voice in the studio to hearing it coming through the Star Wagon
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  feed. Brilliant, brilliant. It was so like, actually out loud laughable
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  to hear it, like somebody just taking in the news, you know,
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  yeah, just receiving like a fan. Yeah, like a fan. That's
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  what it looked like. You are so right. You hit it on the
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  head. You hit it on the head, Deanna. She looked like us
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  watching the reunion with the faces where you're kind of disgusted with what someone's saying
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  the shock, the horror, the just kind of the insidious nature that you
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  kind of feed upon something like we all do. And that's she just seemed
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  to be like drooling over this show. And it was very weird to watch,
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  awfully weird, awfully weird. It was also weird to see her again,
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  you know, because she was ripped from us after and you know,
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  these timelines, Amy, they have me so spun and twisted around. I've
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  given up on them to be if you if if santovo It mentions life is
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  beautiful event one more time, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna lose my ever
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  loving mind. I don't know what that is. I don't know. And
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  then the picture of the shoulders on this can we get a little more context
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  to this and and what we need? Somebody there's got to be a BRA
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  celebrity, not a BRA celebrity, a Bravo holoic out there somewhere, maybe
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  a BRA celebrity that can put a timeline together to say July Coachella, which
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  I think is when it started, August, Sheena's wedding, October Bravo.
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  You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, no, Jan please,
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  I can't because, like you said, the timeline is all over the place,
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  and we're having for the goddamn place. It is hard, and I
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  do, yeah, it would be nice to have sort of a runner of
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  a list in a simple font with no graphics, just simple hard dates and
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  activities, because I can't get myself together with it, and I don't think
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  I should have to. Somebody should be doing this for me. They should
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  have had it on the actual reunion. They should have had it to the
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  side, split screen or not split a little, just a little slipper of
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  just in a simple you know, news time, New time hickery. I
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  wouldn't well be hard. I have to. I have to retain the information
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  that just went by, so we can't just need it simply plainly in front
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  of me. With that said, it took you know, I I mean
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  we started with her in like that cold open and her view situation. Yeah,
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  and I did sort of guss because I hadn't seen her since that last
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  scene with her and Tom together as a couple, so it was startling to
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  yes, yes, and still no difference in her demeanor, her anything.
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  It just to watch her snicker and kind of smile in the trailer while watching
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  it made me so concerned for her well being. Yes, but I thought
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  I almost thought like, well, now we shouldn't be watching her. You
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  know, I need to close the shades on the trailer that she's in and
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  just leave because that was didn't feel safe, right, it didn't. And
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  now so that text that Arianna got from Raquel after she said you know,
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  you're dead to me, and Raquel's like, oh, I'm really sorry.
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  I just don't know what to say. And then Arianna said, fuck off,
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  you fucking rat, which I have to say, that's not a lot
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  to say to somebody for what they did. You know, I mean to
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  call them a rat. You know, in Jersey that is the worst thing
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  you could possibly say to somebody. So in Jersey terms, she really handed
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  it to Raquel in that text. But overall, she really she took the
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  high road. She could have said a lot more. And well, I
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  think she will at this reunion when she calls them subhuman, which I think
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  is a pretty excellent wait articulate it. But I like that. Ariana said
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  it was interesting in her interview with Andy her one on one if you will,
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  she said that she, you know, meant her trash and that you
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  would more expect something like this from a man. So it was more shocking
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  and almost more hurtful in a way that it happened to her that her friend
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  betrayed her, because you don't expect that from your galpal. Yeah, I
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  mean it, and you know, we're seeing it there seems to be literally
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  and we'll I guess we'll see more when she sits down. But I don't
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  anticipate an ounce of remorse. I mean, I just she was so relaxed
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  in that star wagon No, and it there was there's just the way she
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  was like, I really want to hear that answer. When Tom was about
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  to say like why didn't you tell? Andy kept trying to get to the
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  question like why didn't you tell Arianna right away? Or something like that.
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  Yeah, and she was like I really I want to hear that, you
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  know. And I was just like, oh my god, girl, what
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  is going on? And she's in her cozies because she hasn't changed, see
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  very cozy with a heart? Was it a heart on her sweater? Yeah?
• 24:52
  It was very like boy Etsy model you know. Now. Also interesting
• 24:56
  when Arianna said that Tom framed this, he frames this by you know,
• 25:03
  painting this narrative that their relationship was falling apart in all this stuff, and
• 25:08
  that of course he's going to say these things, and that he used to
• 25:12
  coach Ariana and he's coaching Raquel and she can tell like, let's get our
• 25:18
  stories straight, let's get our lies right, which makes me think, Okay,
• 25:22
  well, obviously you must be thinking or you must be referring to the
• 25:25
  whole Kristen Doughty situation when you guys actually did cheat. But also what else
• 25:30
  were you aligning on throughout this entire time you've been on television. What are
• 25:33
  the other lies? That's what I want to know. Yeah, and Tom,
• 25:38
  here's this is the thing that kind of awokened, awakened, awokened me.
• 25:45
  I felt awoke. Yeah, someone woke me up. I was anyway
• 25:52
  when Tom referred to I believe it was last year's reunion and it was that
• 25:59
  hot. My footage of him saying the producer off, you know, off
• 26:03
  of the couches or off of the high top chairs, saying like, oh,
• 26:08
  you know, it's just not fair that we don't talk about our relationship.
• 26:12
  Everybody else is giving, you know, and showing and do you know
• 26:15
  what I'm talking about that footage. Absolutely, that was from last year.
• 26:19
  Correct, that was from last year's reunion. That wasn't two years, two
• 26:23
  seasons, Okay. So when I saw that from that season, I thought,
• 26:30
  this is a planned statement. He's putting this out there, and I
• 26:34
  had a red flag from that. I thought this is really weird. I
• 26:37
  swear to god, I swear to God. I was like, why is
• 26:41
  he saying that he's doing this on purpose for what he wants attention? Is
• 26:47
  he trying to be more vulnerable? Like he knows he's on Mike. He
• 26:49
  knows that they always catch those interstitial moments when they cut off of camera,
• 26:56
  but they leave in those moments from the union when they stopped the quote unquote
• 27:02
  stopped filming for a second. He knows that, and he was like,
• 27:06
  you know, basically telling the producer he didn't think it was fair. Well,
• 27:11
  I thought that was very, very strange. And so for me,
• 27:14
  he's painting the narrative from that moment about the dissolution of their relationship. And
• 27:21
  that's where I think it started with Raquel. I think that's where it started.
• 27:25
  So if they filmed the reunion, oh see, this is where we
• 27:27
  were getting back to where the timelines when would they film the reunion. It
• 27:32
  would have been the end of the summer. It would have been h no,
• 27:37
  the beginning of the summer last year or it doesn't work like that.
• 27:41
  Where are we at. Yeah, so it probably was around this time,
• 27:45
  correct, Yeah, probably April or May. And so let's say that that's
• 27:48
  when they filmed it. And so I'm thinking he started having feelings for Raquel,
• 27:53
  something was bubbling under the surface right then and there, and then now
• 27:57
  and then when then here's my other tip off as to oh, wow,
• 28:03
  Bret's already back. Okay. Cool. So then the other tip off is
• 28:08
  when Schwartz was explaining when he knew when he found out, you know,
• 28:14
  he was like, oh, mid August, right, and then Sandoval was
• 28:18
  like, what are you talking about? Mid oath? But yeah, okay,
• 28:21
  So their timelines were off obviously, because in Sandoval's interview he said January,
• 28:27
  mid January whatever. But Schwartz further said, he said, well,
• 28:36
  yeah, bubblah, I remember you said, I mean, you know,
• 28:37
  I knew that something was kind of going on. You said something in July
• 28:41
  that things weren't right there you go right there. So I think Schwartz knew
• 28:48
  in July. I think something happened with Sandoval and Raquel in July, and
• 28:52
  I think if I think Coachella was in April of last year, but I
• 28:59
  do think something happened with them at Coachella, and I think that it continued
• 29:03
  throughout the summer and then escalated. You know, obviously the the timeline that
• 29:08
  we're uncertain of, but obviously the Mandrian the see you next Tuesday night,
• 29:15
  and then they took a break, of course, apparent according to them,
• 29:19
  they took a break, and then they picked up again with this life is
• 29:22
  Beautiful thing, which I have no idea what that is like? Is that
• 29:26
  a painting party? Is that that's a movie? Right? Why does it
• 29:29
  look like it's some another like Coachella? You know, right situation? Why
• 29:34
  do you guys, Why do you guys always look like you're at Coachella?
• 29:37
  Why? Okay, you're too old. So that's what I'm saying. When
• 29:44
  it comes to the timeline for me, I think it started last year,
• 29:48
  at the end of last year's season. That's where I'm gonna market Amy,
• 29:52
  Amy Amy. I mean, that's really dbs, And it also seems ridiculous
• 30:00
  to try to work so hard to like, just you're all on the same
• 30:07
  show break up, Like, I don't get it. And I think I
• 30:12
  don't get it because we're dealing with a narcissist and a caniver, you know,
• 30:19
  and he's he's trying to plot something out in a way that I think
• 30:26
  backfired just tremendously. Would you agree or is this? I mean, I
• 30:30
  couldn't imagine. This is so honest stupid, Like I think about how stupid
• 30:36
  he is, and I'm like, why are you so gosh darn dog dog
• 30:41
  on it stupid? Yeah, I mean, you said it last week.
• 30:45
  Big glamped in Ariana's face. They glamped in her face. They clamped right
• 30:51
  in her face. You said it last week. And they had already fed
• 30:56
  several times, I'm sure, but they had admitted to f and then they
• 31:00
  went on this fricking glamping trip where she had the nerve to cry in Arianna's
• 31:04
  arms and they sat there and I just it's really quite disgusting. I had
• 31:11
  to pick up my jaw every time I think about how in their face they
• 31:15
  were with this, and that Schwartz knew, he knew, and that's why
• 31:19
  he made those jokes, you know, I mean, yeap when Sandoval walks
• 31:23
  in and Arianna is like, well, he looks like shit. I mean,
• 31:29
  it is quite quite amazing how the left side of our screen stage right
• 31:34
  was unbelievably lit, and the booing that ensued, the heckling from the jump
• 31:42
  when Andy asks the first question to Tom and he starts with those tears and
• 31:51
  he can't even get out one night tear and they start calling him a pussy
• 31:56
  and crack it out. It was so right, That's exactly. Yeah.
• 32:01
  I walked away from this feeling so vindicated, and I felt really satisfied.
• 32:07
  You know. James and Lalla showed up for all of us, and they
• 32:10
  they served it to him on a silver platter, and it felt so good.
• 32:16
  It did because a lot of times episode one of a three part reunion,
• 32:21
  you you get to the end of it and you're just like that was
• 32:24
  that was not satisfying. I need right right, you know. And just
• 32:30
  the way they kick things off. James was God, was he amazing.
• 32:36
  La La looked incredible. She was firing on all cylinders. Yeah, they
• 32:40
  were just there to I've just never seen people take it to sound, you
• 32:46
  know what I mean, Like they they weren't even using words they were releasing
• 32:51
  sound yeah, you know, yeah, and that's when it gets gutturall.
• 32:57
  You know, when when you're so gross, when you're so over someone,
• 33:00
  you just this boot you know, shame they did, They said, shame.
• 33:09
  I mean that was so affect and I have to hand it to Sandoval.
• 33:15
  This is the only time I'll hand it to him. Got. I'm
• 33:17
  curious. He sat there and he took it. He took his shame out
• 33:22
  you Amy, Well, I got it. He could have walked off.
• 33:27
  Okay, he could have walked off. He did not walk off. James
• 33:31
  walked off a couple of times. Got you know, of course, you
• 33:35
  know, he sat there and he just kind of looked down and was like,
• 33:37
  well, I just got to take you know, I gotta take my
• 33:40
  beatings. It's really kind of what it came down to. And I have
• 33:44
  to say there's some respect. I mean, he's a narcissist, so it's
• 33:49
  not penetrating him anyway, so it doesn't matter. But it was satisfying to
• 33:53
  see him also not crumble in it, because then then we would have to
• 34:00
  feel bad, and I don't want to have to feel bad or feel pity
• 34:02
  for him, and I didn't. I just felt good with them roasting him,
• 34:07
  and he seemed to be pretty okay with them roasting him and strong enough
• 34:13
  to take it, so that like if he was just like like shaking and
• 34:15
  crying, then I would feel like, all right, well, I'm a
• 34:19
  human being. Let's right, let's pull back. That's no fun, but
• 34:24
  let's pull back. But thank god, you know that everybody was in the
• 34:28
  game, you know what I mean? It was great? Yeah, I
• 34:31
  did. I did love it now the whole thing. When Lalla says he's
• 34:37
  Randall in ten years, he's dangerous. When LVP jumps in and says,
• 34:45
  you'll being so aggressive and we're just starting, we're gonna be over ten hours,
• 34:50
  that's not dangerous. He's not dangerous. What what you're saying? And
• 34:53
  Lalla says, I didn't ask for your opinion or something. I didn't ask
• 34:58
  for anyone's opinion, and she's, well, you're going to get mine,
• 35:00
  and she says, well, I reject it. Feelings. What were your
• 35:05
  feelings? Well, I did align with Lisa on the one beat, which
• 35:10
  was like we have just started rolling, which is you know, these things
• 35:16
  are marathons. It seems like I would they're daunting. Yeah, you know,
• 35:22
  I have a large glass, like, I think you need a lot
• 35:23
  of hydration, and I did understand that. She was like, wow,
• 35:27
  we're coming in so hot. Yeah, first two minutes. With that said,
• 35:32
  I found everyone's interactions with Lisa to be quite fascinating. Actually, I
• 35:39
  was blown away. I couldn't believe they were stepping too the queen will yes,
• 35:45
  yeah, and she kind of got her ass handed around. Yeah,
• 35:51
  she got dripped around, she got hit against the ropes, that's right.
• 35:54
  And so Lala doing that felt very instinctual and just she was not gonna let
• 36:05
  this guy have and she wasn't gonna give him a little bit of an inch.
• 36:07
  So I liked it. And then I guess we'll get to the other
• 36:14
  defectors of Lisa vander Pump. But I'm so curious as to where this where
• 36:17
  you think all of this leaves everyone, because it wasn't like they burned down
• 36:23
  the house, but they put a bit in her place. Yes, they
• 36:27
  did an a Dreid line in the sursand they certainly did, and I think
• 36:34
  they were willing to do it because they knew that they were in the right.
• 36:37
  They thought, we have to stand up for ourselves. We are women,
• 36:44
  and you are now choosing a prize possession, which is more of an
• 36:49
  asset because of the show and the ratings. Then you are choosing the loyalty
• 36:54
  of being standing up for female empowerment and what's actually right. I can get
• 37:00
  behind the idea that no one is going to have Tom Sandoval's back except for
• 37:06
  Schwartz, and so somebody needs to be there and be somewhat neutral. That
• 37:13
  I do understand, okay, and her being the matriarch of that situation,
• 37:19
  her being in charge of everybody wanting to somehow make it right, which it's
• 37:25
  not going to be made right, but I could understand her trying to at
• 37:29
  least stand there and say, let's try to calm down. However, at
• 37:32
  this time, Lisa, No, you know, there is a time and
• 37:37
  a place, and I think they were well within their means of saying what
• 37:43
  they needed to say, and within the first five minutes. Well, it
• 37:46
  was also now that like, I'm kind of putting some pieces together too,
• 37:50
  which was I was sort of taken aback by her opening statement, which was
• 37:57
  like, I don't usually like reunions, but this one is so needed and
• 38:01
  I'm so here for it, and we need to all be here, which
• 38:05
  I found odd well, because she's referring to her I think she's kind of
• 38:10
  underneath it all, saying I didn't show up to that one reunion. Remember
• 38:16
  when she didn't show up to the reunion, So I think she was like
• 38:21
  kind of covering her ass. I don't believe. I don't really like reunions,
• 38:24
  which is why I didn't show up to that one. But you know,
• 38:29
  I think she was basically saying, like, this is really important,
• 38:31
  and I'm glad that we're doing this because she doesn't have a leg to stand
• 38:35
  up like Sandoval could have not shown up, saying with Raquel and that she
• 38:39
  would have never had that. She would have made them if she would have
• 38:42
  just like put them, you know, in a baby carrier and brought them
• 38:46
  in. She would have done that. There's no way her watch they would
• 38:49
  have missed it. But then she would have been a hypocrite, you know,
• 38:52
  because she missed it herself. Right, So she's okay, and I'm
• 38:58
  I'm hearing that, and I'm all so wondering if she's going okay. I'm
• 39:01
  hearing rumblings that the entire cast may never want to shoot with Sandoval and Roquela
• 39:08
  again, and I'm looking at this as a franchise, and you know,
• 39:14
  you know, I'm looking at my bag and the strength of my my properties,
• 39:20
  and I'm in business with this guy, and I want to walk away
• 39:24
  as with sort it so that we can move forward as a show. Absolutely
• 39:31
  absolutely, I get that you're that's not where everybody is. And I think
• 39:36
  she, at least at the end of this episode, she looked. She
• 39:40
  didn't look great, you know, and that is hard to get Lisa not.
• 39:45
  I mean, she's so good that, yeah, it's hard to have
• 39:52
  her on her back legs. And you're right, and she was because she's
• 39:58
  got so much tied up in this It's the best and it's the worst.
• 40:01
  It's the best because this show could get an Emmy. I mean, they
• 40:07
  could actually get an Emmy this year. It's the best and the worst for
• 40:10
  her because she clearly has the stakes are so high, and monetarily the stakes
• 40:19
  are high too, so she's got a lot of businesses, like you said.
• 40:22
  And then also surprising that we found out that she gave them their investment
• 40:27
  back on Tom Tom. The fifty thousand dollars that they gave for their investment
• 40:30
  towards Tom Tom. She gave that back to them in order for them to
• 40:35
  be able to open up in November, their Schwartz and Sandy's restaurant, which
• 40:39
  is kind of mind boggling that they were still out of They still did not
• 40:45
  have enough money to open, and they barely opened by the skin of their
• 40:49
  teeth, and they needed an entire fifty thousand dollars. My understanding, and
• 40:53
  it felt different in this and I don't know, I don't know if I
• 40:57
  have it right, but my understanding was if she gave them back their investment,
• 41:01
  they were no longer tied to Tom Tom. Oh right, right,
• 41:07
  but it sounded like they were in this episode. So I'm very curious.
• 41:10
  Okay, that's a great question. You're right, because that was the deal.
• 41:15
  That was the deal she offered them, which was like, you will
• 41:19
  take back your five percent and we'll give you your money back, right,
• 41:23
  And then Andy did say, oh, so you did take her up on
• 41:27
  that offer. So but you know what, for me, I actually thought
• 41:31
  she gifted it back to them and allowed them to keep it five percent.
• 41:35
  But you're right, maybe, oh maybe that's right of what I got from
• 41:37
  it. But you know, Amy, she's so thug with them when it
• 41:42
  comes to these deals and they you know, I I'm curious. I feel
• 41:47
  like we need to get to the bottom of that. Yeah, I'm surprised
• 41:51
  we don't have clarity on that one. That that's a really good point because
• 41:53
  I just assumed because it sounded like she was like, I gave them,
• 41:57
  I mean from the love of my heart, you know, and I'm like,
• 42:00
  well, but then they give their five percent share back. So really
• 42:04
  good question. That's something we do not have the answer too. Okay,
• 42:08
  Deanna, we're gonna take a quick break right here and we'll be back with
• 42:13
  more vanderbumb rules. Okay, so let's get into the fight. Things really
• 42:24
  escalated between James and sand of all, when James got out of his seat.
• 42:30
  They were going to fight. This is the worm with a mustache comment.
• 42:32
  This is when he left the set for the first time when he basically
• 42:37
  said Tom accused James, saying well, you fuck Christen to get on the
• 42:42
  show, and that set James off because then he started to, you know,
• 42:45
  go towards Tom saying I was twenty one. I was twenty one.
• 42:50
  I mean, so Tom is what forty forty one? Forty I don't even
• 42:53
  know he was saying forty two, but forty two, that's accurate, Okay,
• 42:59
  So he was like I was twenty one okay, fair fair point,
• 43:01
  fair point. And they were gonna they were gonna go fisticuffs that got heated
• 43:10
  and how oh that was chilling. That was a real chilling moment. And
• 43:16
  it seemed like, you know, James was bringing so much. I mean,
• 43:20
  Jamee was. He was the MVP of this episode, period dot,
• 43:22
  end of story, good night. But you know, he had real emotion.
• 43:29
  This was his friend, he slept with his ex fiance, right.
• 43:34
  It's really deep. It's really deep and hurtful. And I got the sense
• 43:40
  that James actually did look up to Tom, who again is a love bomber
• 43:45
  with friendships and all of that. And I think, you know, Tom
• 43:51
  seemed sort of dead, like he had no I don't get the sense that
• 43:55
  he It's like, what is real to you? You know? I feel
• 44:01
  like all Tom's relationships are based on what people can do for him, Like
• 44:08
  he's not He doesn't seem to care about James, is what I got from
• 44:13
  this. He didn't match any of the emotion that James brought, and the
• 44:20
  emotion was real. Yes, James feels very devastated and hurt. This is
• 44:24
  his friend. Yeah, and you know by Tom saying, dude, we
• 44:30
  talk like what's a month? It's like, well, I mean, to
• 44:32
  be honest with you, I have best friends that I don't even talk to
• 44:36
  once a month, you know. I mean there are times when I don't
• 44:37
  connect with people, but I would call them my closest friends because and we
• 44:42
  give each other that space sometimes because we're all so busy. So it seemed
• 44:46
  like Santabal is just trying to push everything away, you know, and not
• 44:50
  for nothing. I don't know how anybody could show up to a reunion and
• 44:53
  not be on at least a half as Annie. I mean, so there's
• 44:57
  also that, you know for sure. So you know it's so Schwartz,
• 45:06
  Schwartz shorts, Schwartz is what do you think? Clock it with me?
• 45:09
  On Schwartz? Where are you with Schwartz? God, he's just so uh,
• 45:15
  you know, I thought, listen, I thought it was important for
• 45:22
  him to sort of state his his own you know, father, passing,
• 45:28
  brother, sick, business folding, or you know, in struggle. That
• 45:32
  was important to lay that information out just to get a handle on his state
• 45:37
  of mind in the beginning when Andy asked him sort of off mike or you
• 45:44
  know, off camera, he said, were you silenced silent or silence?
• 45:51
  And he said both. I think that was very telling, and I feel
• 45:55
  a little bit bad for him. I know we've been through that where it's
• 46:00
  like should we I do feel a little bit bad for him, I thought,
• 46:06
  because I think he has been manipulated so deeply by his quote unquote best
• 46:10
  friend and partner. He's just sort of like, I don't think stand of
• 46:15
  all. I think it's the same thing. I don't think he has his
• 46:19
  back on any level. He is willing to drag him through the mud,
• 46:23
  like financially, emotionally, spiritually, Like this guy is so toxic, dude,
• 46:30
  like cut him. But he's very weak. He is not a strong
• 46:38
  man. There's he he he did all he could do. But Katie,
• 46:45
  you know, having a business does not meaning you put your partner at the
• 46:50
  back of the bus. Like that's just not that you lean in, you
• 46:53
  know, you count on them. They pull you through. They're your person.
• 46:59
  That's what a marriage is, where they're behind you one hundred percent.
• 47:04
  Like you know, Katie didn't have that, And uh yeah, I don't
• 47:13
  know. I just found him to feel very weak to me, and I
• 47:16
  was annoyed. Yes, I was aggravated. You know. It's it was
• 47:23
  very telling at the very top of the reunion when Andy said to Schwartz,
• 47:29
  you know, Schwartz, this is the first reunion you haven't sat next to
• 47:31
  Katie, and he was like oh. And then James turns to La La
• 47:38
  and is like, didn't even notice. He didn't even take like, you
• 47:45
  know, no, she really has said this. The one benefit is that
• 47:51
  Katie is like so clear now, like if there was any question, ps,
• 47:58
  I need to just talk about Katie's dress for one moment. If you
• 48:00
  would give me that, mom I would love to. Okay, I'm concerned
• 48:05
  about what you're going to say. Well, I will start by saying,
• 48:08
  from the neck up, it was perfection. Okay. It was literally an
• 48:14
  all time best for Katie. I thought her makeup, in her hair,
• 48:17
  and her earring story was stunning, stunning. I thought she looked gorgeous,
• 48:24
  loved it, loved it. Okay, from the neck down, And this
• 48:30
  is something I'm feeling about whenever I'm seeing her choices for the fashions, I'm
• 48:36
  always like, these are sheeps and angles that no one else chooses to put
• 48:43
  on their bodies. Like I don't know what's happening. But it was a
• 48:46
  tent like formation, yes, and it was so wrong. It was a
• 48:52
  Coachella tent. It was there was something about her outfit that didn't work and
• 48:58
  doesn't she doesn't have the best fashion sense. And I agree with you because
• 49:01
  I love a halter neck sure cut, and I love a high halter neck
• 49:07
  cut, no problem. And if you have some embellishment there, that's perfect
• 49:12
  for a reunion because you're you're you know, that's where it scrapped everything.
• 49:15
  But boy, oh boy. And when she came out and Andy said,
• 49:20
  well that's something I mean, he basically pretty much was like, uh,
• 49:22
  and that is that is a dress? You know, everyone really was,
• 49:28
  Like I thought the girls, for the for the most part, looked pretty
• 49:31
  great, but god damn it, it was the bottom house. I don't
• 49:37
  get. I want someone to just like fit her, go take her to
• 49:42
  a tailor and just get her shapes together, because like these are just not
• 49:47
  for the body, Like you have a cute figure, I know that's the
• 49:52
  thing, Like why are you why so flowy? In all the wrong places,
• 49:55
  all the wrong but again neck up, which is where we spent the
• 50:00
  majority. Absolutely, it just was shocking to watch it walk out. And
• 50:04
  then when we saw the pictures to begin with, when they all came out
• 50:07
  on the internets, I was like, oh boy, we got boy.
• 50:10
  Oh boy, here we go again, coming down the pike. Here we
• 50:15
  go again. Yeah, it's tough. Now. This was interesting to finally
• 50:20
  hear Schwartz admit that Joe was friends with benefits. There you go. I
• 50:25
  mean, at least he finally fucking said something, said it, geez,
• 50:30
  Louise, these two little twerps, you know what I mean? Boys,
• 50:35
  children all back into your little bar hole for a long time. It's just
• 50:40
  really And then for him to say we are you know, oh we had
• 50:45
  friends, we were friends with benefits. Oh yeah, we were there for
• 50:46
  each other in a time we needed. And then Katie's like, she's creepy,
• 50:51
  and then Schwartz saying no, no, no, like just again taking
• 50:55
  up for yet another person in the group, always taking up for someone else
• 51:01
  other than Katie, Always taking up for someone else other than Katie. And
• 51:05
  then to say, you're gonna get a cease and desist if you keep disparaging
• 51:08
  her. Really are you are you serious right now? And then then they
• 51:15
  talk about this double date in you know, the Lake Arrowhead thing, and
• 51:20
  how you know, Oh my god, I just can't even believe this.
• 51:23
  Ariana's like, why why wasn't I invited? It's they were actually together,
• 51:28
  and then they're all up snowboarding, and then they're all they're trying to defend
• 51:34
  themselves and that's when we get the boofest, which I just laughed out loud.
• 51:37
  It just was again did I It hit on all? It hit me
• 51:40
  deeply, and I felt so satisfied. But that trip is so messed up.
• 51:45
  And these two sniveling snakes out with their girlfriends, you know, Oh,
• 51:50
  it's so good. And then what he was saying, okay me,
• 51:53
  she hates it like that was so butterall. There was something about Lala and
• 52:00
  James that was magical to see them. It was gorgeous. Never I mean,
• 52:06
  god, are they, you know, a pair. Whether they're meant
• 52:09
  to be, I don't know I know, but regardless they are that life
• 52:15
  has brought them together and it's an important union. But they were giving me
• 52:21
  the old men in the balcony of the Muppets, like the old Muppets you
• 52:24
  know Fler. I think, yes, yes, they were giving me that,
• 52:29
  you know, in a way that was just overseeing everything, you know,
• 52:36
  just cozied up together and just giving it to them. They were they
• 52:40
  were, Yes, there are lines that it was funny when James said I'm
• 52:45
  not boring it and She's like, I didn't even listen. I mean it
• 52:46
  was just mean right, yes, I mean they were something else. And
• 52:52
  then to just bounce out of that that double date snowboarding boofest right into like
• 53:00
  other one of Ariana's endorsement commercials, because you know the first one was the
• 53:05
  uber one Good as Gold remix, which we've seen, but then we bounced
• 53:07
  right into big easy rints where she was like starting an unclogged chapter in my
• 53:13
  life. I mean, the endorsements are flying. She was at some sort
• 53:17
  of fast food restaurant last night serving up chicken. Did you see this?
• 53:24
  I gotta check it out. I gotta go, oh yeah, she she
• 53:29
  is endorsing the hell out of her life right now. And good for her
• 53:32
  because that we had that sofi thing we had you know this oh what is
• 53:39
  it called? I can't see cans Cane's chicken? Have you heard of that
• 53:46
  before? I've never heard of Cane's chicken. This is a deeper cut.
• 53:51
  Yeah, oh sorry, raising canes, raising canes. So she's she's there
• 53:58
  and she's serving up the chicken. And yeah she was back there. Wow.
• 54:05
  Yeah, here she is behind the register and people. It's a whole
• 54:07
  thing. This was just hilarious. You know, it's fine, like,
• 54:13
  go get it. She knows enough to know that these moments are fleeting.
• 54:17
  Yes, it's really her fifteen minutes. Yep. I mean not to take
• 54:22
  away that she's been on vander Punt rules for as long as she has and
• 54:27
  not to take away from that, but she has not been a star of
• 54:30
  vanderpunk rules. She hasn't been someone who's been the most compelling person. She's
• 54:36
  no stasy or she's not polarizing, she's not as witty, you know,
• 54:39
  I mean, there are things. This is why she's been more of a
• 54:43
  sleeper. So it's now she really is getting her fifteen minutes of fame.
• 54:47
  So I'm happy for her. But what were you going to say, Deana?
• 54:50
  No? I mean the other thing is I don't think she was looking
• 54:52
  for it. So that's another reason why I love it. It's like she's
• 54:57
  taking the opportunities. She doesn't. She's grabbing every penny off the ground,
• 55:01
  as Bethany Frankel would say, and I'm good with it. The one thing
• 55:09
  I did want to ask you, specifically because you are in the Bravo world,
• 55:15
  is that I was kind of shocked that. And I don't know if
• 55:20
  you think Andy and production allowed for this. I don't know how it all
• 55:23
  works, but having the Call Her Daddy podcast the day before the reunion,
• 55:30
  I found so odd that they would allow it. Well, I completely thought,
• 55:37
  I completely agree. I mean, it gave me Sandoval on how he
• 55:40
  does stuff vibes because I thought, how are you doing this? You're telling
• 55:45
  your side of the story before the reunion and we know that Bravo was mad
• 55:49
  about that. They must just be so team Arianna that they allowed her to
• 55:52
  do that. They must have gone through This is me completely. I have
• 55:57
  no clue. I don't connect with Bravo on this level. I don't get
• 56:00
  inside information like that. If I do, I never would talk about it.
• 56:05
  But I have keuthe inforation. I think it must come down to the
• 56:07
  fact that she had to have gotten the permission to do it, and they
• 56:10
  would must have said these are the things that you can say, because because
• 56:15
  there are some pieces of information that she found out after the reunion, and
• 56:21
  so I think that those are the things that she ended up telling Alex Cooper
• 56:23
  because so, for example, what she found out, I believe one of
• 56:29
  the things she found out after the reunion was the hotel thing that Raquel was
• 56:35
  in the hotel in New York while Tom and Tom did that interview. I
• 56:38
  don't think that she knew that at the reunion. Okay, so that's new
• 56:42
  information that so she's not really spoiling the reunion if that's new information. Also,
• 56:49
  the other piece of information that I'm curious about is Tom ft Raquel in
• 56:58
  the guest room while Arianna was next door right dirty. So that's I think
• 57:04
  information that maybe she got confirmation on after the reunion. Because so these are
• 57:08
  two really big, juicy pieces of information that she couldn't have brought to the
• 57:13
  reunion. So that's maybe why they allowed it. It's just interesting. Well
• 57:17
  it was interesting because I wondered, you know, it's such a huge platform
• 57:22
  and a huge show called Her Daddy, that maybe they were like, we're
• 57:25
  going to collect people for the viewing of the reunion. The day before that
• 57:30
  we wouldn't have had We're going to get viewers. That's a great point.
• 57:34
  And that's a great point, perfect pr okay, And I thought that's interesting
• 57:39
  and I can get behind that. But for me as a viewer, as
• 57:44
  a fan, I found I got sort of full after listening to that two
• 57:52
  hour I didn't listen to the whole thing. Actually, I kind of tapped
• 57:55
  out, and I found I think ariana headspace was so different than the reunion
• 58:02
  that it was a little dry for me, and I sort of got bored
• 58:07
  with the story in some ways because she's in a better place now now that
• 58:13
  she's yeah, yeah, and we want to watch it on a linear basis,
• 58:16
  that's right. And so luckily I found when I got Spectrum up and
• 58:22
  running and the software update happened, that she was giving me everything like she
• 58:30
  and so I was and got you know, we needed La La, we
• 58:32
  needed James, And I was like, Okay, thank god, thank god
• 58:35
  I still have an appetite because it made me feel quenched. Yeah, because
• 58:42
  there's really I mean so far, I mean she has I mean obviously at
• 58:45
  the finale when she told Santa Balha, she felt, I mean, it
• 58:49
  was the perfect in your face, breakup moment that any woman could ever wish
• 58:53
  that they could have. You know, it was incredible. That was her,
• 58:58
  that was her moment of her life, you know. And I'll be
• 59:02
  curious to see what happens in this reunion, but right now, it's not
• 59:06
  like she's the star of the reunion. It's really James and Lava that are
• 59:08
  taking up for her, and that's that. And she's just looking great and
• 59:10
  she's standing and she's just like, he looks like shit, I don't believe
• 59:15
  it word he says, and he can fuck off, which is so funny
• 59:19
  to me. One other thing I do want to talk to you about is
• 59:23
  Arianna kind of stepping to Lisa vander Palm. And we did touch on this,
• 59:28
  but we didn't get into the nitty gritty of what Arianna actually said to
• 59:35
  LVP, saying that we just won't be as close, and then she said
• 59:39
  I think she knows what's best for her, and Andy's jaw dropped, as
• 59:45
  most of us did, because we've never seen anybody speak to Lisa that way.
• 59:50
  That is an underling, and I was just I just want to make
• 59:52
  sure I'm clear on what exactly she was saying, because it sounded like she
• 59:57
  was saying, like, will be connected through business, but I'm not going
• 1:00:02
  to have anything to do with her because she's doesn't have my back. And
• 1:00:06
  she did say I think she knows what's best for her but right, but
• 1:00:09
  then later she backpedal and said, I think she knows what's best for business.
• 1:00:14
  It was amazing, first of all, just to see that moment.
• 1:00:19
  I thought Arianna navigated it beautifully. I thought she held her own and maybe
• 1:00:25
  we would want her to be stick it to Lisa this stand of all sympathizer
• 1:00:30
  a little bit more. But I thought she gave Lisa that information, which
• 1:00:37
  was if you are choosing to continue working with this man and standing up for
• 1:00:44
  him, which she seemed to be doing tonight, it will change our relationship
• 1:00:47
  m and that's up to you. And she then Lisa came back with like
• 1:00:53
  business. You know I'm doing it. It is business? Is oo?
• 1:01:00
  Do you like that? Is that good? I love it? And she
• 1:01:07
  said in a way that I thought was really economical and to your point,
• 1:01:15
  what did it mean? I think it was open to interpretation, which was
• 1:01:20
  smart. She just said, I'm yeah, Lisa knows what's best. I'm
• 1:01:24
  not going to assume to know better than Lisa or whatever she's paraphrasing for her
• 1:01:30
  business, and I don't know, I loved it. I thought it was
• 1:01:35
  a really Lisa came back at her and she danced through it in a way
• 1:01:39
  that kept it ambiguous, and I thought it was effective. I liked it.
• 1:01:45
  Yeah, Oh it was. I was blown away again. That was
• 1:01:47
  a pretty spectacular moment for Arianna so far on the reunion. It was that
• 1:01:52
  moment, and I think also her one on one with Andy a little confused
• 1:01:59
  if you want to talk about wardrobe, it was it was giving the ice
• 1:02:01
  skater vibes with the Yeah, it was a little accusion netting. Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  And then we kind of end with Lala and Katie having their issues. Katie
• 1:02:15
  feels that Laala doesn't have loyalty towards her as much as Katie is loyal to
• 1:02:22
  Laala, because if Sheena did the things to Laala what you know she did
• 1:02:28
  to Katie, then Lala certainly wouldn't you know, Katie wouldn't be friends with
• 1:02:32
  Sheena in that way. So Katie feels very scorned by Laala. And this
• 1:02:38
  is a tough one. I think Katie just really probably wants a lot of
• 1:02:44
  loyalty, especially now based on her breakup with Schwartz, and you know,
• 1:02:47
  she really only has Christina Kelly at this point. Yeah, so I mean,
• 1:02:54
  really she probably wants a little more support there. And and Sheena apologizes
• 1:03:00
  to Katie, which I really appreciated, which we knew that was coming because
• 1:03:05
  Sheena said it on her podcast, Sheenanigans. She said that she didn't realize
• 1:03:08
  how terrible, you know, Raquel was, and she was taking what Raquel
• 1:03:14
  said as bible and she just really believed her. So when she watched back,
• 1:03:17
  she had a lot more empathy for Katie and she realized where it went
• 1:03:21
  wrong. But also the fact that Lala has bought a house right next to
• 1:03:29
  Shenanigan's in Palm Springs. So, I mean, and it really is one
• 1:03:32
  of those things where I think Katie probably feels a little left out. I
• 1:03:36
  mean, they've got these two young kids, and it's a perfect situation for
• 1:03:37
  two people to have a connection because they've got kids the same age. They
• 1:03:43
  can play, they can connect and it's great. And I do feel bad
• 1:03:45
  for Katie on the I hope that they can come together and Shenanigans and Katie
• 1:03:51
  can make it work because I'd really like to see their relationship finally get to
• 1:03:55
  a good place. Do you think it can happen? I do, And
• 1:03:59
  I think it was good for Katie to get that off her chest. And
• 1:04:02
  I thought Laala didn't deny it. She sort of took it to whatever way
• 1:04:08
  that Laala can take something. You know, she didn't add to it,
• 1:04:11
  she didn't, but she took it. I think, yeah, she did.
• 1:04:16
  And I thought it was a really important apology, and I think that
• 1:04:24
  it would be if they're going forward as a show. I think that they
• 1:04:27
  can make it work. I mean the way Sheina was like, you know,
• 1:04:30
  you gotta love her because she's so she's so embarrassing with her needs,
• 1:04:39
  you know, and her wants. Like she was like the way she was
• 1:04:43
  kind of smiling at la La, like our friendships so good, And I
• 1:04:47
  was like, you, we're so cute. You know, she can't help
• 1:04:50
  herself, but I think she is a really genuine friend and a genuine person.
• 1:04:57
  Yes, yes, so you know, I think they can find their
• 1:05:00
  way. I know, I felt kind of bad for Shina for a second
• 1:05:04
  because when Lala was defeting their friendship, she was like, I mean,
• 1:05:08
  it's just the kids, like, it's just because kids. And she was
• 1:05:11
  like, well, what about me? I thought we had something. I
• 1:05:14
  thought you really didn't liked me. It's like, oh, I was just
• 1:05:15
  the kids. I mean there were kids like each other. So and she
• 1:05:17
  was really you know, tewing that line of trying to explain like it's like
• 1:05:23
  a mom thing. She's like a mom friend, but she's not like my
• 1:05:25
  real friend Randon minute I thot were your friends. I mean that moment was
• 1:05:29
  kind of funny. But Palm Springs, two houses next to each other,
• 1:05:32
  that's kind of amazing. I love that for them. Well, what what
• 1:05:38
  an episode I thought it was. I know we didn't get a ton of
• 1:05:42
  new information, but it was so like we said, my belly was full
• 1:05:45
  immediately from the jump, and I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes.
• 1:05:51
  Also, Peacock has aired the uncensored version, and so that's up right
• 1:05:58
  now, which we didn't have time to obviously watched before this, but and
• 1:06:01
  I don't know if there's any unedited scenes in that. I think it might
• 1:06:04
  be an extended version, so people can look into that. Also, you
• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:14
  Patreon at drama Darling with Amy Phillips, Deanna Chang, actress, writer,
• 1:06:19
  producer, comedian, podcaster, friend, Bravo, Hollick, you are so
• 1:06:27
  such a delight, you are so funny and will you please come back all
• 1:06:30
  the time. People, I love you. Oh, thank you guys.
• 1:06:35
  It was really it was. This is really fun. You're so much fun
• 1:06:39
  to talk to. And I wonder did we start the rumor on your show
• 1:06:44
  if she was pregnant. No, I'm actually kind of wondering. I am
• 1:06:48
  too, because that's how telephone gets started. He telephone, Yeah, rumors.
• 1:06:53
  Yeah, it's Deanna had she had a moment last week. You can
• 1:06:58
  go back and listen where you basically you made a speculation. You made,
• 1:07:03
  you know, a fantastic revelation you made. You just were throwing it out
• 1:07:10
  there in the universe. What if Raquel is hold up somewhere because she's pregnant
• 1:07:16
  with Tom Sandeml's baby, and there was dead air. There was dead air
• 1:07:20
  for a while because I had to gather myself because I never thought about it.
• 1:07:24
  So from there on out, the next day I would say, even
• 1:07:28
  hours later, I sent hours after you, hours after you put that episode
• 1:07:33
  up it was a news I mean, it was everywhere, and I just
• 1:07:41
  it just seems I don't want to give myself credit. I don't do it
• 1:07:45
  too often, but I wonder either the universe was just providing at the same
• 1:07:51
  moment, or did we get at something started here. No, we may,
• 1:07:57
  I don't know, but we I think that you have some potential to
• 1:08:00
  be a real housewife, Deanna, is what I'm thinking. Oh many,
• 1:08:09
  Well, okay, Deanna, Well on we go with our day. We
• 1:08:13
  can put this first reunion behind us and move on to the next and have
• 1:08:16
  a wonderful day, and Darlings, I'll see on the Patreon drama Darling Drama,
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