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INTERVIEW: Tank & J. Valentine Talk R&B Money Podcast, Hell's Kitchen, How R&B Has Evolved, AI Music + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club finish for y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Done morning everybody, It's the j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne
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  Speaker 2: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Laurla Rose is
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  Speaker 2: here with us as well. We got some special guests.
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  Speaker 3: In the villoty.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed we have Jay Valentine and Alicia Keys, Pops,
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  Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: Let me take ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not that old back you are, David, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Dad on Broadway. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: play a twenty twenty something, almost thirty year old, phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, if you haven't seen it, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to see him. Now you're back on Broadway for how long?
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  Speaker 2: I actually took the whole family to go see it.
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  Speaker 2: But how long are you back on Broadway for?
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  Speaker 5: It was originally two weeks, but then I added a weekend,
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  Speaker 5: so it was what like twenty two shows? So I'm
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  Speaker 5: here to the thirtieth.
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  Speaker 2: It's a perfect Christmas gift if you want to take
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  Speaker 2: something christ especially your parents.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 4: He does a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 6: I love the show that's that's when he walked into Charlataanne'
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  Speaker 6: getting old. You should use my product, my kit, my kid. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm like, rewind.
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  Speaker 1: The time, wind the time. Then you say, let me go.
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  Speaker 1: You got to have hair. You want to? You want to?
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  Speaker 1: You want to see my hair? That's crazy, No on
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  Speaker 1: your face. I don't know what you're talking about that hair.
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  Speaker 3: Just keep it.
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  Speaker 5: That's a stocking cat for all those I'm used to
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  Speaker 5: cutting off the foot of the stock.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm a school.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: One day I was asking to change my picture because
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  Speaker 5: the picture on the box looks looks like they put
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  Speaker 5: a crackhead filter on me. And I said crazy, I said, Joe,
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  Speaker 5: that's not how I look. I never looked like that.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody hated on me. Can you please change the picture.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna change the picture for you fans. I promise
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna change the picture. We went through.
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  Speaker 1: Months and months and months, please change the picture. Finally,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Joe, this is getting disrespect changed.
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  Speaker 5: He's getting disrespectful, and that next thing I know, I'm
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  Speaker 5: getting the letter in the mail.
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  Speaker 1: You will not be renewed. And never changed the picture.
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  Speaker 3: Look, they got to.
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  Speaker 7: Inventory so I think they kicked me out and brought
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  Speaker 7: Nori in.
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  Speaker 4: You Andy got the same? I guess color we don't
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  Speaker 4: have the same.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 6: On the next episode of Joe and Jada, we find
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  Speaker 6: out why actually got.
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  Speaker 8: You ain't called him back and say no, no, Joe
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  Speaker 8: ain't hitting me back.
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  Speaker 1: Damn damn you New.
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  Speaker 9: York, New York, right, Papa, I'm gonna pull up on him.
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  Speaker 3: You know who else in New York? Ray J and
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  Speaker 3: Rage said he won't smoke.
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  Speaker 6: Can't mess with me by training. Wow, it's gonna take
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  Speaker 6: me nine months. What do you think, Valentine.
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  Speaker 5: Begins, that's a fact. Yes, he can beat me. What
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  Speaker 5: doing pool out? Doing pool?
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  Speaker 1: Nigga?
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  Speaker 6: He said, you can't mess with him if he trained,
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  Speaker 6: but it's gonna take him nine months only specify.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, but guess, but guess what he said? I
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  Speaker 1: love you. He don't love nobody. Everybody. Everybody else said
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  Speaker 1: I'm going j can do no wrong.
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  Speaker 6: Ranch So funny because he said it, but then he
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  Speaker 6: thought of about it like it's going to take me.
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  Speaker 5: Here's the thing about ray J is that nobody's really
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  Speaker 5: paying attention to he's smart. He's smart, and he has
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  Speaker 5: a diversified portfolio.
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  Speaker 1: I get it you.
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  Speaker 5: Some people may be able to sing better than him,
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  Speaker 5: some people may may be able to outperform him, whatever,
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  Speaker 5: but you're not going to beat him in terms of
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  Speaker 5: lasting and being in a relevant conversation as long as
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  Speaker 5: he's been in it period. It's connected to everything, everything
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  Speaker 5: from music, everything to making social social.
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  Speaker 6: I said that morning, he's what I call an anchor being.
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  Speaker 6: In comic books, they call it an anchor being. He's
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  Speaker 6: an anchor bean to tech.
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  Speaker 1: He's in tech didn't break, but soon they broke. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 8: If he if J stopped like doing all the things
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  Speaker 8: he's doing and really focus on his voice, we would
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  Speaker 8: hear a better singer of a ray J. Yeah, Brady,
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  Speaker 8: But conversation it was him versus Mario, and people are
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  Speaker 8: like he can.
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  Speaker 5: In the beginning, ray J was going there and then
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  Speaker 5: I just think that he just I think he was
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  Speaker 5: just happier doing more like to be a singer. Singer
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  Speaker 5: like you really got a hyper focus on singing, and
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  Speaker 5: other things suffer as a result of that. You know,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of those guys are good listen good singers,
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  Speaker 5: got it, but they're not there.
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  Speaker 1: They can't out entertain ray J. That's true. They can crowd,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I don't know what he what's what's the
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  Speaker 1: what's the one you?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on, But.
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  Speaker 1: It felt like it was a panther on the inside
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  Speaker 1: of that. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: And guess what we were talking about. I don't care
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  Speaker 5: who performed well at that one music festival. Guess who
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  Speaker 5: we were talking about.
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  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask both of y'all a question, right
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  Speaker 6: y'all all the host of the R and B Money podcast,
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  Speaker 6: and I was thinking about this with the conversation that
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  Speaker 6: Mario and Cam Newton was having. Is there a proper
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  Speaker 6: R and B etiquette? Should other R and B singers
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  Speaker 6: talk about who can and can't sing?
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  Speaker 1: I believe you can. You can say what you feel.
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  Speaker 1: That's you know.
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  Speaker 10: I don't tell nobody what they can say or how
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  Speaker 10: they can feel about anyone else. And music is subjective,
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  Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying? Like and Tankers tell you,
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  Speaker 10: I'm the guy who calls him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, have you heard this song? And it might
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  Speaker 1: be the whole song might be off key.
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  Speaker 10: I'm like that ship jammin though, right, Nigga, that ship
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  Speaker 10: jam mhm it's about how music make you feel.
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  Speaker 1: If we're gonna go back into who's the rated singers,
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  Speaker 1: then we just got to go to church mhm.
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  Speaker 10: And we all know outside of Kurt Franklin and the
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  Speaker 10: ORLANDA Adams, it ain't a whole bunch of money on.
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  Speaker 1: That side of it.
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  Speaker 10: So if we're talking about making money and making popular music,
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  Speaker 10: the voice is subjective and and can can people really
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  Speaker 10: get what they're trying to get out of.
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  Speaker 1: The song we're talking about? What's the song we were
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  Speaker 1: just listening to in the back.
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  Speaker 5: If that would have been like a gospel style, if
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  Speaker 5: that had been a gospel style singer, it wouldn't have worked.
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  Speaker 5: Mark Morrison returning to Mac No no good singer could
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  Speaker 5: It's no elevated singer could have singing that.
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  Speaker 10: It had to be that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 10: It's like, it's it's a style. When we're talking about
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  Speaker 10: in popular music.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's style wised.
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  Speaker 5: So when you have the okay, who's gonna come out
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  Speaker 5: here and flat foot sing for each other, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We don't really have it.
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  Speaker 10: So I mean you can you can say it and
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  Speaker 10: oh this person is best singer, and that person better singer.
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  Speaker 10: But then it's like the who sells the most records,
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  Speaker 10: But that would say that.
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  Speaker 6: I put a list right now, and I said, Tank,
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  Speaker 6: who can really sing? You would play that game.
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  Speaker 1: I already see where this is going. I don't. I can't.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because because my voice means
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  Speaker 5: so much more. When when when these guys hear me
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  Speaker 5: say something like if if if I didn't matter, if
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  Speaker 5: we weren't the authority on all things R and B,
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  Speaker 5: if I wasn't a guy who's written and produced and
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  Speaker 5: sat down and had conversations with all these guys about
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  Speaker 5: music and life and how you know this is what
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  Speaker 5: you need to do to do this and do that.
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm in a place where I can't even I
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  Speaker 5: can't even do that. I gotta, I gotta. I gotta
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  Speaker 5: encourage all of them, because I inspire all of them,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So I gotta tell, I
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  Speaker 5: gotta tell either whatever you have, this is how, this
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  Speaker 5: is how you frame that, do that, put that there
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  Speaker 5: and then with that sonic by this, and then that's
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  Speaker 5: the guy I can be. So you know when you say,
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  Speaker 5: is Mario allowed to do that? Mario can he can't
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  Speaker 5: every right, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: So now let me ask you, when you have a
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  Speaker 2: computer that can make that voice perfect, right, I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: about the AI Young. How does that make you feel
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  Speaker 2: when somebody could type in lyrics into a program, push
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  Speaker 2: into and it comes out with this amazing song with
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  Speaker 2: this amazing voice, and this person gets paid a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it.
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  Speaker 10: Why I'm not mad at it because I just believe
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  Speaker 10: that we are constantly evolving into something right if it's
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  Speaker 10: and it's just another form of business. And I'm and
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  Speaker 10: I'm happy for a young girl out of Memphis, Mississippi,
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  Speaker 10: where somewhere out there where she's from, that was able
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  Speaker 10: to make a living off of it. To me, I'm
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  Speaker 10: never I'm never knocking anybody who figures out a way
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  Speaker 10: to make a living.
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  Speaker 4: Does that hurt the craft?
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  Speaker 5: But let's take it back though. But let's take it
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  Speaker 5: back though, because we've got to go back to the beginning.
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  Speaker 5: Because me, I have albums, many albums, many songs with
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  Speaker 5: no auto tune mm hmm. Now, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: I'm competing against singers who aren't singers who can't necessarily
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  Speaker 5: hold that note, that can't necessarily do that run that
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  Speaker 5: they're not as technical as I am, but the autotune
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  Speaker 5: is holding them up and helping them almost.
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  Speaker 1: Sound as good as I sound. Technically.
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  Speaker 5: We've been fighting against AI for a long time, Grammy
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  Speaker 5: for absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And guess what I said. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what the playing field is.
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  Speaker 6: Let's play fight out and I think it's a time
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  Speaker 6: and place for all.
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  Speaker 3: Then I don't think all the two works in the bedroom.
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  Speaker 5: You I just I disagree with you because you have
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  Speaker 5: heard a tank with you just don't. It's not just
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't t paying my auto tune right,
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  Speaker 5: but I understand how to use the tool.
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  Speaker 8: And I also think have you seen Tank perform live?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 8: So I think once we've seen I'm a live performer,
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  Speaker 8: we wouldn't even think there would be.
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  Speaker 5: Anything because I don't need it, right, But I understand
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  Speaker 5: the sonic behind it. I understand why it cuts through
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  Speaker 5: and why what it does on radio and what it
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  Speaker 5: does when it comes through your head. I understand sonically
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  Speaker 5: what that is. That's just me being an engineer time rewind.
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  Speaker 6: But I think it's something to being able to grab
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  Speaker 6: a microphone anytime, anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 5: That's why, and that's why it doesn't matter. It's just
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  Speaker 5: another player in the game that we are competing against.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care who it is. Let's fight, let's compete.
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  Speaker 1: And it's enough space for ever. It's enough space.
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  Speaker 5: You have Whitney Houston, you had what's what's uh American idol? No no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: the one that we should be, the Laker dancer.
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  Speaker 1: Like you are.
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  Speaker 10: People are acting like this is new where you don't
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  Speaker 10: have one end to the other end you're always going
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  Speaker 10: to have.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still a person. This ain't a person, but
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 3: Still assisted was in a video with a cat, a
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: cartoon cat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different, he was.
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  Speaker 5: It's different, but it's just today's version of it. And
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: you gotta understand we're not going back. We're not going back.
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  Speaker 5: So does that figure out your prompts? You're executive, right, yes?
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  Speaker 2: Would you have a sign and artist that you got
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  Speaker 2: to deal with, makeup, hair, manager, security, all that, or
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  Speaker 2: AI person that you ain't got to deal with nothing?
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  Speaker 4: You cut a check and just let the money come.
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  Speaker 10: If you tell me that person you just said, it's
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  Speaker 10: Caliney telling in Kayliney, it's perfect tell me that person,
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  Speaker 10: it's Scissor summer Walker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking it.
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  Speaker 4: Most people won't invest that money to get to where
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  Speaker 4: a Scissor is, won't take that.
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  Speaker 10: The real executive is going to see that. They're going
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  Speaker 10: to see Victoria Monday. They're going to see her drive.
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  Speaker 10: They're going to see how hard she goes in and go, oh,
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  Speaker 10: this is going to connect. Because that's the other thing. Now,
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  Speaker 10: you also have to talk about how an artist feels
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  Speaker 10: to people. An ar artist, you know, you're just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 10: that's a video game. You like to play it a
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  Speaker 10: little bit, But are you in love with it like that?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 10: So the human aspect still kicks in when it comes
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  Speaker 10: to that, Oh I love this artist. These people love
• 13:45
  Speaker 10: the artists that I just named. They love Chris Brown,
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  Speaker 10: I love Mario, they love ray J bro. I go
• 13:53
  Speaker 10: to my phone and I'm trying to see what Raj
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  Speaker 10: said today.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I ain't gonna help you. Yeah. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: you can't replace that.
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  Speaker 5: But I ain't mad at somebody getting their bread in
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  Speaker 5: another way, you know, I mean I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: You know that. Don't bother me. The labels are going to.
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  Speaker 5: They're gonna sign AI, Yes they are, and then they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna use some of that aid money to take a
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  Speaker 5: chance on humans.
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  Speaker 4: How do you patent it?
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  Speaker 2: Because you're putting it into a system so yours could
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  Speaker 2: sound exactly like hers.
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  Speaker 1: Well not, they're not gonna be able to do that.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: So that's where it gets everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Because the little Barney thing that almost kind of sound
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  Speaker 5: like me and and Sam Smith and and somebody else
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: had a baby, the little Bernie. I'm thinking about it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking about going to see them niggas.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like little Barnie.
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  Speaker 5: You ain't seen the Barney guys singing R and B
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  Speaker 5: in the rain. It's going around. Everybody can tagging me on.
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  Speaker 5: I'll show it tell you. But I mean, once you
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  Speaker 5: start trying to sound like people that already exist and that,
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  Speaker 5: that's when we start are having an issue.
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  Speaker 10: And I think that's that's probably in the works as well.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I got some homies that's trying to figure
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  Speaker 10: out how to copyright all of that, and you know
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  Speaker 10: cultural you know cultural I P and that those those
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  Speaker 10: type of things. So as in anything, they got to
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  Speaker 10: figure it out, you know what I'm saying, you know,
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  Speaker 10: we're all old enough to realize napster and and and
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  Speaker 10: know what we went through during that time and seeing
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  Speaker 10: the music business change, and they figured it out. I mean,
• 15:27
  Speaker 10: they figured out another way to rob us again. But
• 15:31
  Speaker 10: then you you also figured out a way to give
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  Speaker 10: opportunities to people who would have never had them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's stay here for a second.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all too have seen damn near every evolution of the
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  Speaker 6: industry for the most part. What's the biggest lie the
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  Speaker 6: industry ever sold?
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  Speaker 3: R and B artists.
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  Speaker 1: M I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that there's I don't think that there's
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  Speaker 5: a lot that they sold. I think the truth about
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: what happened to us was never told. And I think
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: we've had that conversation in terms of what we ended
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  Speaker 5: up having to compete against as male artists, against you know,
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  Speaker 5: rappers singing melody and kind of replacing us in the
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  Speaker 5: charts space. Like we weren't honest about that conversation. It's
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: like R and B died. No, R and B didn't die.
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  Speaker 5: We're still here. But you're just you're not giving us
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  Speaker 5: our spots. You're giving our spots You're not You're you're
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  Speaker 5: letting bad singers, uh sing songs, but you're penalizing good singers.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing too much. Well, you singing gen and Juice
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast Nobody Nobody.
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  Speaker 4: You're blaming it on the rappers.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, I blame it on I blame
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  Speaker 1: it on economics. It was just math.
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  Speaker 5: You know how much it took to make you know
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  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, A Voice too men album? You know
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  Speaker 5: how much it took to make a Jackson album? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but then when you had that first hit, come Come,
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  Speaker 5: Come out of the basement of the Bronx or in Harlem.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, for.
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  Speaker 5: Two hundred dollars and some chicken and you sold two
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  Speaker 5: million of them.
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  Speaker 1: Right, there's a whoo how do we get more of that?
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  Speaker 10: But I think what what him and I figured out
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  Speaker 10: early on too, was we could make R and B
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  Speaker 10: cost effective and that like we had a conversation with
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  Speaker 10: Atlantic Records, I don't know, fifteen years ago and we
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: and you know, we were trying to figure out how
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: to make it make sense. And him and I were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 10: we got home studios. We can write and produce it ourselves.
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  Speaker 10: If we want to bring in our friends, we can
• 17:49
  Speaker 10: and we'll set a certain number that we go up
• 17:52
  Speaker 10: to so that when we turn in this album, he
• 17:55
  Speaker 10: makes money week one.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: YEP.
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: And we went in Atlantic and we restructured our deal
• 18:02
  Speaker 10: and we was like, now, don't we don't want that upfront.
• 18:05
  Speaker 10: We're trying to make back end money. Now, we're trying
• 18:07
  Speaker 10: to make, you know, money that's gonna last for our kids,
• 18:09
  Speaker 10: for us later on in our lives. So that upfront
• 18:13
  Speaker 10: that you've been selling people on which you know everybody knows,
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: that's debate.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. If I give you a dollar,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I gave you a dollar, so you owe me.
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: We're saying, you know, we're saying, okay, well this is
• 18:25
  Speaker 10: what this is what's gonna take for us to make it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: And then we proved that the business model worked, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 10: we saw a lot of other people in R and
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: B start doing the same thing because before it was
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: very expensive to make R and B music. You need
• 18:38
  Speaker 10: a studio for a month, two months that you know,
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: the artist is showing up to two three days out
• 18:45
  Speaker 10: of that time. We're like, no, no, we're gonna do
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: this right. You know, We're gonna cut the fat and
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: we're going to really do real business. And I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 10: R and B had to figure out how to do
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: real business. For a minute, R and B was it
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: was wild, like niggas was charging.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: One fit track.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
• 19:01
  Speaker 10: Niggas that was getting jewelry on the on the budget
• 19:04
  Speaker 10: absolutely like wait, producers, y'all got y'all got jury off
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: of his song.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: But you know what, all right, there was that So
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: and we were in a privileged position, yea, because we're
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: we're a to Z so we can write it, produce it,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: all of that, you know what I mean, at a
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: at a level, you know what I mean. So at
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: a at a point where some artists they need to
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: run to that high level producer, they need to run
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: to that high level writer, and it is going to
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: cost them to get in the game. We we kind
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: of were blessed to wear I mean charging ourselves. So
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: we just we just bet on the back end. We
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: just created a different type of business so that we
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: could do we could do rapper business.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: So let's simplify. If you had the power to change
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: one thing about the business side of R and B,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: what gets fixed for us that like what you're talking about.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Now, budgets budgets.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: No, I think the budget part is easy because I
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: think at this point, now everybody understands that, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the days of you know, fifty hundred thousand dollars tracks over.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Everybody's trying to figure Now everybody's trying to get placements
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: because everybody can produce. Now, everybody can write. Now you
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: see AI, don't don't think it's not don't think those
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: submissions have of those submissions aren't AI. So now everybody's
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: now trying to figure out how to get those placements.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: The only thing that I would change in terms of
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: of R and B business is just the marketing promotion
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: of it. I would just add more money to that
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: part of it, because yeah, but we need to we
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: need to.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Be put on bigger stages. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: I think asking artists to try to figure out how
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: to go viral all the time it's tough. That's that's
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: really that's a tough space to put an artist in.
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: And it's and it's really it's the same thing when
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: you talk about promoters and they're like, oh, we we
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: need tank to post a hundred times, Well, nigga, aren't
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: you a promoter?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Title?
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: This is your title. This is what you do right.
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: We need to be able to see you know, that
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: street team again. We need to see those type of
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: things we need. And I think for me, I would
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: love to see artists campaigning again, meaning like really going
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: going to those you know, doing those school tours, doing
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: those HBCU tours, getting out there because everybody can't come
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: up here. We know that now you guys are you
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: know this is a premium, but there are so many
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: people walking around with cameras and and with phones that
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: are trying to interview artists and artist like, oh yah,
• 21:32
  Speaker 10: I'm good.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Now when you're trying.
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: To get popping, I don't care who walk up to you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: You better hop on that, hop on the on their
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: little phone and help.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Let me help you.
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: I didn't watch this man like, hey man, your camera dirty.
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: Let me let me wipe that down for you. It's
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: cook so we got a good picture. That's to me,
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: that's what I want to see change. I want to
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: see the artists not just live behind the computer no more.
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: And you know, I kind of answered the question around,
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: but that's what I would I would like to see
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: a change as far as from from an art and
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: be standpoint too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: There's no street teams anymore.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: There's no labels that do. You got to be on
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: street team. You got to get out in the streets.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: The majority of the artists I've ever seen a lot
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of them before doing radio was at Hampton.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: That was a stop.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: There was the Morgan Howard Carolina stop and you see
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: everybody right, and it would always come for free and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they would perform on the yard on top of a car,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: on top.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Of a bustle in the auditorium.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: That's but they don't have that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And that was the promo tour.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: That was the promo tour.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Now the promo tour is just on your phone, TikTok.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: That's that's their version of promo tour.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Here, he said, Man go outside and feel the day.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Man feel the day is what they call that. I'm
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: going outside the field. Like how Cardi B did her
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: roll out for her amazing. She was amazing. But that's her.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: But that's her anyway, that's her a static anyway, she's
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: tapped in with the people. That's my thing. I'm I
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: don't I don't care when nobody else do. I'm with
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: the people. I judge my success off people and and
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: and and the money and all these other things. Those
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: are the byproduct of taking care of people, being there
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: for people, and that's what artists, again seconding with J
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Jay is saying, you got to get back to the people.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Man Like I am an advocate. Atlantic Records will tell
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: you I just got the BMG shout out to BMG
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: uh with our with our new deal here. But I'm
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: just saying from in terms of the past, I was
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: an advocate. Hey, guys, I want to go on a
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: promo tour, but Tank, you don't have to do that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: I want to go on a promo tour right right, So,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: as a Tank who didn't have to do a promo tour,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I'm laying in the back of a of an s
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: u V, a suburban going from state to state, the
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: state to state, city to city. That's what I'm doing
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: because the people are important. You can't lose sight of that.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I'm old enough to remember, Jay Records Recording Artists. Tank
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: will be at the Guilliard Auditor.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Recently seen climps do with the.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Same meet and greets, luncheons. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: You know how many program directors I done call it
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: their kids, I done call it. They wise baby, Mama's
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: all of it. That's what we gotta do. That's what
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: AI can't do right right. It's a separator.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: It R and B finally at the point where artists
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: can be financially free without having the crossover cross over
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: to what like when everybody was doing like.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The pop records, the big Yeah, the one, the one,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: big Friend.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: Well, I think you you gotta make music for the masses, right,
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: you have to, you know, because that we're entertainers. But
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: sometimes the best you crosses over, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: And I feel like and I feel like Rap showed
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: us that, you know what I'm saying. Fifty second perform
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: anywhere anywhere with the same records that he made for queens.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, they were they were you know I I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: if you have a strong enough hook that can take
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you anywhere. I mean, shoot, Kaylney Kate had.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: That's a very army record. Very different kinds of records,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: very R and B all different kinds. Chris Brown is
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: at all different kinds of record. Residuals are very armby
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: residuals unfolded or as R and B as they come,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: and they are.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: They are math world records. Like you said, the best
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: version of you. Yeah, yeah, that to me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: You know, I felt like when artists were chasing that,
• 25:38
  Speaker 10: it just didn't seem authentic, you know what I mean.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: It didn't seem like who they were. And you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: they were chasing the whole four on the floor thing
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: and it came and went, and I feel like it.
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: I feel like it hurt. I feel like it hurts
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: some people. I feel like I heard some artists too
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: when they did that chase that big like I.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Don't want to say people were raposited to it hurt,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: but for.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Some I think they won.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I think it just depends on how you do it too, though,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: how you you know, how you add that aesthetic into
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: into your brand, you know what I'm saying.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Like when Neil did it, Like when Nel did it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think it hurt him.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I don't think it hurt Neil. I think that was Neil. Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I think I think Neil is. I think Neil is
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: a world artist. I think he's a He's a great
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: R and B artist, songwriter, all of these things. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: I think Neil is is great at appealing to the world.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: He's a world artist.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Point appealing to the world with sexy loves and stuff
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Not when you but even sexy but even sexy Love,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: if you listen to it, it's like it's it's still
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: a bigger record. It's not a traditional arm Sexy Love
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: is not a traditional R and B record.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: A little bit.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It's it's got you know what I'm saying.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Now, when you go okay, Now, when you go there
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: and you say, okay, maybe that was far, but when
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: you watch him actually perform it, you said, oh no,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: that's crazy, No, that's him.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: But when I play those crossover parties, I don't place
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: you love. I played that record him.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: And it goes crazy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: You go, yeah you you try to close after nail
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: somewhere overseas, somewhere in London.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Good luck, my friend. You're talking about that now.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You said online that you believe that Usha is a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: better singing than R.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Kelly and people they did it at.
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: Lussia, is a better vocalist than Kelly.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, USh is technically a better vocalist than R. Kelly,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: way more tools.
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: I thought you you can't say that type of stuff though,
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: I see you growing up.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Over there like.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: These guys are these are my actual peers. Got you
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: these guys are you know what I'm saying? R Kelly
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: is O g This is a different conversation.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: It's like joy. It's like Jordan Lebron Jordan's.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: We're talking about guys at the top of the stratosphere,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: like we're having a different conversation.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Is gonna lead this nigga voice?
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't say he was better than you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say he was technically technically okay, technically.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: We don't hear.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Technically okay.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Like like like I said, for instance, I always bring
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: this record up. But Climax mm hmm. Or Kelly couldn't
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: have saen Climax mm hmm. Not many people could have
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: stayed Climax. But where Usher went from from false to
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: natural mm hmmm without without without hearing, the hearing the transfer,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: like that type of thing special incredible. It's like watching gymnastics,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like everybody lands, for some
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: people stick, you know what.
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: I'm saying, Singing everybody don't always stick. Like if you
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: listen to Climax, every note that he sings on that record,
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: he sticks, like it's like this period, no move, ain't
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: no step back, you know what I mean?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: That shit is flawless. So I mean, but sticks sticks.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Everything she's singing on there, it just sticks.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, which why you have so many singers trying
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: to emulate it, right. They're trying to because because now
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: now certain certain singers or certain songs are study material,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: it becomes that, like R. Kelly is a product of
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: so many things when it comes to study material. It
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: was swag, it was content. It was actually him, excuse me,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: him turning R and B into this rap thing that
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: was like what what what is this? The first R
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: and B thug? Like what are we looking at? And
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: not that R and B cats ain't been tough, but
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: he framed it in a way to where it's like
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: R and B singer was like, I gotta get a chain.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Our castle corral.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: R Kelly made it so you had to get a
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: has some tims like you gotta it can't be too
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: soft no more.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Then he then he gave you balance with you know,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: half on the baby with the silk pajamas on. You know,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I'm walking barefoot like wife a minute, so I can
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: do both. So when you talk about r Kelly, You
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: talk about it's so much that goes into that, but
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: when you just break it down to one thing vocally,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: that's just that's just an elite. He's an elite vocalist.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: So what's the one vocal mistake you see new artists
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: making the day.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: That's a great question.
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: They don't rehearse, there's one they don't rehearse, and you
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: can tell there's one. You can tell, you can you
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: can you can see it. You know, my father used
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: to call it polish Dad. They're not polished, and you
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: don't see a lot of new artists that are polished unfortunately,
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: you know what I mean. And you just like, damn man,
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: like you should have left that in the oven a
• 31:03
  Speaker 10: little longer, you know what I mean, Like you should
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: have just because there's there's something like when people call
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: you and they have you perform at things, or they
• 31:11
  Speaker 10: have you show up for something, you can always tell
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: that somebody spent hours and hours rehearsing going over that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: Like when you know, let's be two kay, those guys
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: are polished, and when they came out they were polished.
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: You could tell they were in the lab for years
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: waiting for that opportunity. You'll see a group now and
• 31:31
  Speaker 10: you're like they called a wave or artists or whatever,
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: and you're like, damn, I just wish when you catch
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: that wave, I hope you look in that mirror and go, Okay,
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: I gotta get ready now. I got to really start
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: because these people want me to perform. So I'm not
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: gonna take this show in August. I'll take it in
• 31:51
  Speaker 10: October or November.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I'm a wait because when they see me, because when
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: they see me, they gotta see me like, yeah, as
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: this polish started, the stake they make too is And
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I actually was able to do this with a Marion
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: as you bring up B two que. A lot of
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: producers just write songs and produce songs, and they aren't
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: considering the vocal range of an R and B artist,
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And so a lot of times when you're in the studio,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: you can get something off in the studio because it's takes,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: you're fresh every take. But when you have to sing
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: a song from top to bottom live in the show,
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: that's where it gets different. And so a producer, a songwriter,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: even that artist for that matter, has to understand what
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: key they can actually sing in it, Like, so what
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: can you what key can you sing in where you
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: can deliver this song from top to bottom every night?
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: And that's what I did for Marion and oh and
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I was I was listening to him sing and I
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: was like, I was like, they're writing everything outside of
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: your key.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: We want the hype because the hype when it comes
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: on the radio and the people singing live. I said,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: but that's not your key. I said, you sing down here,
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: even when you're here talking voice. He's like, I was like, no, no,
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: we're going to bring you down here. The highest note
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: that you're going to sing is that's the highest note
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: you're That's that's how you're going and we're going to
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: stay right there. And so that's I think that's not
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: even just on the singer. That's on the people who
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: are actually crafting the music and don't take time to
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: actually get to know the artists and there and what
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: they're bringing to the table.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: And I think that's why people compare Chris to Michael
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Jackson all the time, not that they can be a comparison,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: but if you ever see his show, you see him
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: flying around the air and flipping and stancing, and it
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: still sounding.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: Glen Mike is still on from top to bottom of
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: the show, like that's ridiculous, and then here go do
• 33:46
  Speaker 9: a meet and greet and then probably go in the studio.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Is different and it was long.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: His show is like four hours hours.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: No, we're not all aliens, We're not on aliens. The
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: two people completely not from this planet. Whitney he was another,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: said christ Michael Jack.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: But Whitney to Whitney. When you when you listen to
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Whitney alien, no matter what she sings, you.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Be like, how the hell you get that?
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: No doubt, and then be singing, smiling, smiling, Yeah damn
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: she got stand up, hold the stomach.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: And that happens when the artists right, So like and
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: Omary was lucky that you were able to hear that
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: and do that, But like today, these artists aren't getting
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: those producers right sometimes and then they don't know their
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: own identity enough to be like, no, I shouldn't be
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: singing there. How do you navigate that if you have
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: that wave? And it's because I think sometimes I see
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: artists and I'm like, dang, they have the moment, but
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: you can tell their still trying to figure out who
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: they show up as, like what they got it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well, it's it's two part, right, because as an artist,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: a lot of times you don't even know what to
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: ask for, right, You're you're just looking for success, and
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: however it comes right, you don't know what to do.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: On the other side of it, You don't even know
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: what to do going into it. You just look up
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: and have this thing. And so a lot of the
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: oners or the responsibility is on the artists who desire
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: or seek more in terms of understanding from the gift,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: to the marketing, to all of these things. But then
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: it falls on the people around them. Right, So if
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: there's a manager and all of these cool things that
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: are that are coming into play, and then let's go
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: even further than that, when people who do know when
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: the label comes in and the people who are trying
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: to make money off of all.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Of these things, who know better, they should know better,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: they should know.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Better, and they should do better.
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: But they always right because because back to the labels,
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: Hey where's my camera, where's my camera?
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: Start hiring black executive again. Okay, hire people who actually
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: grew up in the music, know the music and can
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: tell you how to make the music all right, go ahead,
• 35:52
  Speaker 10: ty yep.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Well, because because again if we go back to where
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: you know, there was a plethora of black executives, you
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: see the difference in how the artists l A. Re
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: wrote songs, wrote songs. Jimmy Seme, Terry Lewis Maker and
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Andre Herrel was music.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: He was music, I mean like and we can go
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: down the list of like.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Is music like Jermaine dupri Is music and.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: They were talking about how the boutique labels and like, yeah,
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: clip go so virbral and is exactly what you're talking
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: to search it for that now we know it.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: And so if when we see somebody that's doing something
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: like you understand, we sit and talk with everybody, all
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: of them, and we say, hey, man, you should try
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: this and and think about doing this. And when your
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: people that's what we do so much, unpaid consulting, we
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: do that just as.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Much, so much. But it's not even about it's not.
• 37:03
  Speaker 10: Even it's not even about it's not even about labels
• 37:06
  Speaker 10: hitting us up. To me, it's it's it's more so
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: about person. It's about labels really putting us back in power.
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: And it's not when I say us. I don't just
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: even mean me and him. Dallas Austin should run a label.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Jermaine depreciated run a label. Yeah you get what
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, why not?
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: They know this ship, they know it, they live, they
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: like everything.
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: The work ethic is the same coming from the artist,
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: like y'all were hungry like people.
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: You know what you know where the work you know
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: a lot of times you know where a lot of
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: times the work ethic comes from. It comes from It
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: comes from respect, right, because certain that that's if we
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: check it. The sports, certain players know when a certain
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: coach walk in, it ain't no ship to be played.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Today, right, Are they playing with a certain player? Yeah?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Cooka back in shape. Yeah yeah, they was.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Taking beers and ship from him in Dallas. He played
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: at Lakers with Brian Nigga. Look like you're reading a
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: model and everybody around you falls in line. So artists
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: are going to Artists are going to do or get
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: away with what you let them get away with, right,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: and what they respect.
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: Like if you when you go in the studio with
• 38:20
  Speaker 10: Jermaine dupri you're like, and you look at that wall?
• 38:24
  Speaker 10: Are you look at the wall and Jimmy Jimmy Tyr
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: Lewis or baby Face Wall and you're like, this is
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: everything I want. I'm going to give my best, you
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: know what I'm saying. And then they you know, they
• 38:36
  Speaker 10: walk us out the pasture too early, right they ah,
• 38:39
  Speaker 10: you knows.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: You used to do this. So that person used to
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Jermaine dupri just had here records, big ones, you know
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: But even bigger than the hits.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: If you create something that's timeless, if somebody's created something that's.
• 38:52
  Speaker 10: They can do it again, give me a chance to
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: do it again, you know what I'm saying, Like.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: We have this thing just what you said, we gotta
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: we gotta, we gotta dive into that more. Why is
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: it that? Why is it that we allow our black
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: artists to age out and writers and producers and writers
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: in producer, Why do you know a producer unfolded Drey
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Harris from Drey and Vidal, who was part of creating
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: neo soul in Philly, Jill Scott Music Soul, he's a producer.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: He's a producer on folded.
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, you know what I'm saying, Like, all these these
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: young artists, why aren't these labels send them to like
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: a Brian Alexander Morgan.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Who did s w V period.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: That turned out, so it has to happen more and
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: and and and salute to the artists that are saying
• 39:50
  Speaker 10: because it's it's not even I don't believe it's their
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: teams in there in the labels.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: It's the artist now saying this. You know, I need
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to go see such and such.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: As an example of that, you know, as as you
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: see the the texture that Kilane is playing with now
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: in this very R and B, very early two thousands
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: kind of things that she's doing.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Guess who she called. She called me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: She called Antonio Dixon like she's like, I need that,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: I need some of that. And so that's why I
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: go back to some of the onuses on the artists
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: to do your do your work, do your homework.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: That makes a lot because you all did that with
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: her A folded folded gonna be around for a long
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: time since the babyface did snooze.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: Right, Chris Rick times like it's it's some really talented
• 40:43
  Speaker 10: people out here, man, and you know him and I
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: both do this.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Man, I'll call him.
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: I'll be like, bro, I just came from I just
• 40:51
  Speaker 10: I was at the studio of Victoria Monday. You'll call
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: me just hit me, kline hit me. I gotta play
• 40:57
  Speaker 10: some records, you know what I mean? Leon Thomas out
• 41:01
  Speaker 10: Tie Dollar Sign. We like, I think, what's what's happening?
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: And we're we're trying to be the people who stand
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: in front of it is the real tap in, Like
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: we really, we really are tapping in. We really are
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: sitting with artists. Jacob Latimore, you know what I mean.
• 41:17
  Speaker 10: You know, we all love Jake. We're like, listen, you're
• 41:19
  Speaker 10: a superstar TV. Now it's time for you to be
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: a superstar music. So here are the steps, you know
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: what I mean. Luke James, Ye, Trevor Jackson.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like Jaydon m h Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Like that's like my little brother this ver. You know
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: what i mean.
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: I'm like, listen, I'm seeing okay, you know, maybe maybe
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: one or two extra spin moves that you're doing you
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: might need to.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It's turning into a parelt. I got this stand still
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: sing a little more love that, you know what I mean?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: But love him well.
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: Tank said the respect of that though, because they know
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: that we're coming from a pure place, you know, what
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: I'm saying, and you have absolutely.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It would be smart for a label to say, hey, you.
• 42:04
  Speaker 10: Guys run our black division, if y'all want to call
• 42:06
  Speaker 10: it that, hm, you know what I mean? And that
• 42:09
  Speaker 10: and that could be in the works. But I'm saying
• 42:12
  Speaker 10: it shouldn't just be us mm hmm. It has to
• 42:16
  Speaker 10: be more of us and it don't. And I get
• 42:18
  Speaker 10: the boutaque boutique label that that's cool too, But I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 10: talking about literally in the building too though, right, because
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: this one thing would be to be a partner with
• 42:27
  Speaker 10: them and be a little bit on the outside. But
• 42:29
  Speaker 10: you gotta be, you gotta be at that Wednesday marketing meeting.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: The system gym because I felt like at first depth
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: Jim was trying to do something like that.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, if j where who R and B was? They
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: had they had death, So.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like producers would be in studios and then at
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: that that label the next day.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, and then you had you had, you had.
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: You had real label heads like Jimmy I Van who
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: believed in empowering the producers. And my thing is that
• 43:01
  Speaker 10: if you've seen what he did with all those producers
• 43:05
  Speaker 10: from Polo to Timberland to Doctor Dre.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You know, why wouldn't y'all continue to follow suit? You
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like too much?
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Niggas made too much money. They had to cut this
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: shit off.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the business wasn't made for us. You,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: me and d just made a billion dollars, you know
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 43:22
  Speaker 10: And I think that's the that's that's the mistake that
• 43:26
  Speaker 10: that that sometimes.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: We make is in thinking that the business was made
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: for us. Entertainment.
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the entertainment part is for us, but the business
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: never was behind.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Somebody that just blew my mind. Recently came Brown. Come on, man,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: I tell you, I tell you, shout out to Polo
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: the don come on man, you talk about you talk
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: about bringing black people back into country music.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Polo to Doe, he kicked that off. He kicked it off.
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: Came Brown is black for people that don't know. And
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: I remember, I remember he played him for me. I'm like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: you got young brother, you she canna.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Work for credible. She can be credible. Take her the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: world again. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. But
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: they found a way to, you know, to not to
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: not mention Polo about that no more. Well we're on
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Today, we're gonna mention it and we will
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: talk about it. I heard that somewhere.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: I was like polo behind Kate Brown.
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, you got a new young girl juicy two
• 44:26
  Speaker 10: times that I with too, like.
• 44:28
  Speaker 9: He got listen. She used to cover through his covers
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: all the time. His voice immaculate and she was doing this.
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: I remember ago, Yeah, yeah, my girl.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: We hear we here.
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: The were here to give people they credit man and
• 44:45
  Speaker 10: they flowers and to put light back on them, if
• 44:47
  Speaker 10: you know, if they try to take it off of them.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: John he was up here last.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: We love John.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: He said he gave He said, Tank gave him the
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: comp gave him his confidence back as an artist. That's
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: what you that, he said, because he played a song
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: for you in the studio and you said to him, man,
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: I gotta get on that record. And he said that
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: gave him his confidence back as an artist.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Did you even know?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I don't even know that.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Did he put him on the record.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: You're trying to find it. You're trying to find it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: You're trying to find it. But the record.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: Thought believe he's like people always say, people say that
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: to you.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: No, he played a record for me. He came and
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: he came into the pod because I've been asking him
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: to come and do the pod. I was like, he said, yeah,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: when I get something going that come just.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: We got you that disclaimer.
• 45:38
  Speaker 10: When I put out that disclaimer, you don't have to
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: like the Army Money show that we call the podcast
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: with a show.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: It's not about an album rollout.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Most people want something to talk about.
• 45:50
  Speaker 10: But but but if you are tenured in this, you
• 45:56
  Speaker 10: have a lot to talk about and let's talk about it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And you're not limited. You're not limited.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: You're not limited to that time that you come to. Okay,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: now you have something to promote, can you come back?
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: Yeah, see you tomorrow. Cool, Well he might be on Broadways.
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: We might not see tomorrow.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: There think other things that I'm that I have sometimes
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: take precedents. No, But with John I've always been a
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: fan of John B. I've worked I worked with John
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: B way back in the day, like we Got Lately
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: and some other songs like you know what I'm saying from.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: This feature man saying John B is like to.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Me, excuse me. He's one of those guys. And so
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: after the pod, he was like, man, you mind if
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: I play you guys some records.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, play playing some shit. You mean
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: put him on a big man on a big speaker.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: He played that record. I said, oh no, you can't
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: do that without me. You're not gonna get that off
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: without me. He said, what do you mean? I said, yeah,
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: I need to be on that. He said, are you serious?
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: And said, yeah, I'm serious. I made him put me
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: on the record, made him put me on records.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Crazy. And then I said, when are we shooting the video?
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: He's like, well, we're trying to. I said, John, we're
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: shooting a video. When are we shooting the video? Tell
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: me where the video is. I'm on my way.
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: I got clothes that comes along with when you when
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: you have a featured artist, may be asking for clothes.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Listen, close, listen. Let me say something.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: When I did I did my Chris Brown shots fire
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: back in the day and Chris does everything on the
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: house like mind you this is this is one hundred
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: two hundred thousand dollars venture easy, easy, He said, big broken,
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: you just do do my do my just to cover
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: my style?
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I said, absolutely? How much was that twenty?
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: But listen, Chris to be on their record with Chris
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Brown and for him to put me on that stage
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: with that power. What saves was that when we went
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: to Orange County put me on stage for Power on
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: O six Power Jim priceless, priceless. You need a twenty
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: dollars twenty thousand dollars rack. Absolutely, here we go. And
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: so for me showing up for John is the same
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: way a lot of you know, Chris Brown would show
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: up for me and paying that forward and whatever you need.
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: And I'm talking to him about radio. I'm talking you
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: need me to interviews like what's going on? And you
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: need to hire this guy's in Indy to do you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm all in because again John is one of
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: one of our guys and he it shouldn't be over
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: No, he's too good of.
• 48:42
  Speaker 10: Course, and we just we once again, you just you
• 48:45
  Speaker 10: have to continue to tap in. Charlie Wilson used our
• 48:48
  Speaker 10: studio for two months, Gory, I need a studio it
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: available to you get him in like that's what we
• 48:58
  Speaker 10: have to start doing that and it has to start
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: being at across the board.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: What makes you the way that you all take because
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you have great relationships with everybody.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Not just on b singers that are news except that Joe.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Besides Fat Joe fired you. I don't know why Fad
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: fired you.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna run down does he have a lot of people.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: With a lot of.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, so got to be calculated when I roll up on.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: What makes you that way? Jay Jay has this this
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: phrase for me. Tank has never met a stranger ever.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Ever. That's and that's just kind of how I live
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: my life. Man.
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: Everybody is important to me. Everybody means something to me.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: If I can help, I'm gonna try and tell you
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: what you can. If I can't, I can't. But that's
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: what makes me me.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: You know. I've often had people try to say.
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: Hey, man, you need to be a little bit more
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: mysterious man, to not be so accessible, you know, you
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: gotta be a star. And I'm like, but that's not me. Like,
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: I like, I like touching the people. You know what
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: I'm saying. I like I like walking through general populations.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: We were at the bottom on me, Like, that's that's
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: just me, man. You know, to me, that is your star,
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like you know the fact
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: that you are like that, that that's that's your star.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: That's that's what makes you shine, you know what I mean.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: And I've watched him for years just you know, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: it don't matter what city we're in, somebody is his homie.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: All the time.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Connected. Absolutely, absolutely, he is the guy that's you.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: In the club, in the elevator, in the I didn't
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: see taking so many places he stopped.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: He just starts talking to people. At least you people
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: pay our bills. Man.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: He being a club.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: My wife be like, can we go even.
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: In Baltimore it's a restaurant. Black sat listen on the counter,
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: standing up on the counter.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And we watched the fight in Baltimore. Yeah, watched it.
• 51:06
  Speaker 9: Uh my friends like, you know, we just had to
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: take it up on it and they just saying so
• 51:12
  Speaker 9: regular and I'm like what he was on.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: The counters black swan acting. They don't let people do that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: But I mean it's one time.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: You got to leave. Yeah, when they clean it up,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that's my and I helped clean up, ip clean up.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: We're getting on season for the Army money.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not playing with that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: Sure were we were up now tell them we are, Yeah,
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: we we're back, We're back.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: We look here off top authority, whos gonna tell us?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: She said, the authority want somebody said we wouldn't.
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: She said that we've already been saying it, but she
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: also said it, and I thought that was a great moment.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Keys not.
• 52:00
  Speaker 10: I think now it's just time for us. What we
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: realized by taking the hiatus was how important we are
• 52:09
  Speaker 10: to our culture, because I don't think we even really
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: knew honestly.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: But it's only R and B platform. But it's tough.
• 52:18
  Speaker 10: It's tough when you when you're doing it and you
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: got your head down and you're doing it, and then
• 52:22
  Speaker 10: you're like, okay, you take that little break, and you're
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: literally being threatened every day threatened.
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: I was putting out a record that it was like, yeah,
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: that's all cool and well, but where's the podcast.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I can't do no music because I think it's It
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: started off for us as a side quest, you know what.
• 52:39
  Speaker 10: I mean, just just love Yeah, just love too, homies.
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: It's like we're doing it from a pure place of
• 52:45
  Speaker 10: you know, we we want to we want to put
• 52:46
  Speaker 10: some good energy out into the world, and then it
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: turned into what it's turned into, where you know, I
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: always say it, I'm like, if they if they stopping
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: you at t s A you popping because they see everybody.
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: So if they like know that episode with such and such,
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: I'm like, ships exactly what this is A this is
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: a thing like pople spending time.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: That's why the ARM and B money awards gotta happen.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: Man, what we're doing, Man to break down in the deck,
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: man and man driving slow?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: It don't take that long. Man. Maybe you are getting older.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: I think next year we're gonna yeah, no, nothing, let's take.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: We have to happen. What happened. You gotta do it
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: in my backyard. You gotta do it live. Yeah, yeah,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: cut it out, cut it out, will.
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: Do it, will never do it absolute in his backyard.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Cut it out right away.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: Speaking of pure thingers, that's another one on Tree saying
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: at my boy but car Seller's wedding a couple of
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: months ago, no backup track, just the microphone and did
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: like force on. I'm like, I forgot this nigga really
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: can sing?
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: And can I say something? Can I say something?
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: And that's what I try to tell this nigga.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, That's why I try to tell this nigga.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Cut it out.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: M hmm. Cut it out. You need to talk to somebody.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: Call me mm hmm, or call G or call J.
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: Don't call them because they don't care about you. They
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: don't love you. They're just looking for a reason to
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: tear you down. I said, Nigga, you are too good
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: and too important and too important for that not to matter.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: When he was making this album and he let me
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: hear this album, I said, Nigga, this is the greatest
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: album you've ever made. This album is a Grammy Award
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: winning album. Don't don't say nothing else.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: And what he do? What do you do? No?
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: No, here's the part. It's the part to get on
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: my nerves about to ra he be like this. I
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: understand you, King, I respect you coming to me this
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: way and giving me the good information. And I'm taking
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: note and I'm definitely gonna be better as soon as
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: I get in the car and pull off seeing this
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: is the thing.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Is live like he's a thousands like that, like I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: told he saying when I was going through my problems
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: with my wife and and he came, he's saying in
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: the basement of Chiles, no mike, no acoustics, and destroyed.
• 55:48
  Speaker 10: It's a croner unless you finally admit that he was
• 55:50
  Speaker 10: there for you because.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I was always.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Man with.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Violence.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: That was he comes, it's pause, and sometimes that was crazy.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: And sometimes I think he chased this and that pisces
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: me off.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Is this killed?
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: Listen, listen, if you if if you eliminate that from Tyrese,
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: is his one of one of our greatest talents. He's
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: one of our greatest talents. He's singing, acting, all on
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: all on the elite level. Absolutely, and and and that's
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: what I want from my brother. I want that for him.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: I want That's what I want people to remember him for,
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: not that, not the phoney.
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: I got a show coming up together.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in l A November twenty seconds.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: This this this weekend, this Sunday YouTube theater.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this Saturday, sorry, this Saturday YouTube theater. Was leading
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: the choreo.
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: Wine, you're doing the choreo?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: What the what the choreo?
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: Yo?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: You gotta.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: You did see fall up speaker talking about from who's
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: leading the choreo.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: That's what she.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: Speaking speaking of, not rehearsing rehearsed when you and this.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Is the problem I have withwhere clear don't you know
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: we know I'm just.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be excellent. I'll schedule two days
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: of rehearsals two figures.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: And said, what are we doing rehearsal? I said, was
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: rehearsing eight hours?
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, you ain't got to be there for a hour?
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: And I hit fatial for a coming here and responding
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: to me, I got hit.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I did hear him.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, I said, bro tankers here. He says,
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: you fired him any kind?
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: He responded.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: I had to tell him what take it was, because
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: I was like, he might think it the.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Box take, you know what? He respond Yet he here
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: be back since the firing. I hit him a couple
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: of times.
• 58:13
  Speaker 8: I was gonna say with y'all, like, you know, the
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: ringion happened a while ago, y'all are running back around now.
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: What's different with you guys with T g T being
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: back together now and running around like that, y'all learned
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: from everything that happened prior to Yeah, what.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: If y'all learn.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: This this? This will probably be my last tg T show.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: What That's what I've learned?
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: Did they find that out?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: We don't dance that bad?
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I love?
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: I love those brothers on a on a on a
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: personal level, and just in in artistry. I'm just chasing
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: something different. Yeah, and I love, love, love love those brothers.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: My new album is coming out, It's Lonely a Flash.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: My new single, Controls is out right now. Jay Valentine
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: is selling Canadas.
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: I talk about that, this is the first time they're
• 59:20
  Speaker 8: hearing this to y'all. Talk about this because the people
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: think that it's like about to be.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: A whole run. Is that the people that I promise you?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: The people don't think that I promise you. Ain't no people, No,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: people know, people don't want off. We're trying to get
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: it off real quick. The people believe.
• 59:43
  Speaker 6: You.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Nice, I said, people, people, No, there's no run.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: End on this from from from your vantage points? Where
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: is R and B right now? Are we in a renaissance,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: a rebuild or some type of reading?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: We're taking over? We're taking over. Ain't no reading nothing.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: Yes, we are taking over and we are fully behind it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: We're fully behind it. And part of it mean he's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: still putting our music, you know what I mean. He
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: got a great record, Control It's available now, uh everywhere.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: R and B money slash b MG.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: So y'all are behind the business of the record too.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Yes, they're the distributor. We're not playing you know what
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 10: And we got the R and B Awards coming if
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 10: this man ever, I believe, we believe that we're you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 10: we're doing the first awards at his backyard in one
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: of his estates.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: And I love this. RB is taking over. We started
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: with ray J.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: He is there Like ray J.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: It can't last in the verses, I don't understand what's
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: going on. Wait a minute, could not.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Could?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: I didn't say over anybody. I said, let's not act
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: like he can't last any versus. He's a problem in
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: a versus.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: And he is the problem versus.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: You know, did you notice walked across the stage like
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: eighty two times for no reason.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 8: Because he can can't Today can begins.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: And that's listen, you said, that's the truth.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: R and B is R and B is here here
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: heavy and to stay. We are killing the ship. So
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: many dope R and B artists think about the tours
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: that can go out man.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: Boys to men In new additions, Tony Braxton shout out
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: to the b PC. Listen, we got black promoting out.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Kelly, you know to say, Kelly Rowland.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: One twelve, the young boy that just won American Idol,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: Roberts that nigga can sing his face off.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: He on the boys face off, the B two K
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: boys that right now, Eric and come on now cooking.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: They can't mess with us cooking you.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 10: We're gonna figure out a way to get these young
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: boys on the road together, the two B y G S,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 10: the Jads Wars, the Papa Jays, Papa Ja.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: It's time people want to have a sexy good time
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: without feeling like it's gonna get violent. That's right.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: You sing what Leon Thomas said. I don't have a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: song that would make y'all want.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: To do this.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: Over the years, the R and B niggas been the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: one putting beats on people way more than rappers.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, when you come to my dead well,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: there's no nobody knew but charl Man. Nobody was talking
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: about it because we handled ourselves.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: In a certain way. Hey man, come back here real quick.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: Let's get this done, and then we're gonna walk out
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: there and sing our songs.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: We're gonna sing our songs. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: You know now, it's a little different. You know that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: you're pulling out here and I don't have a song
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: that requires a fighting audience.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: I don't have a song, yeah, like, but it's it's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 10: time for this, this good feeling, you know what I mean,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 10: And everybody wants that especially, It's just it happens with
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 10: with society.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: When shi it is wild in the world, you gotta
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: have something to keep you calm, looking for refuge. Shout
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: out that the family record and I got them.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 9: Yes, y'all got a song you featured him on R
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: and B Money that song My God Lojah?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: What is it? No is Lisa, y'all?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: Why can't I upload the video to that song? You
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: don't know you'll on the country or something like I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 9: put I tried to put that song, that's one of
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: my favorite songs on.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix that for you.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Put on it.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all in this scene, I know you want to
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: do something to what you're gonna do to what service
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: you have? She tried to and she tried to throw
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the globals.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: They blocked me in Romania, one of my biggest markets.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: That Yeah, shout out the rot Man, He's another We're back.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: R Vy Mundy Podcast we back black Heart.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Appreciate you brothers for joining us.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: And if you haven't seen Tink on Broadway, go see
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: Kitchen on Broadway.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Amazing show.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: If you look at for something to get your your mama,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: your daddy, or any Alicia Keys fan Christmas.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: The holidays, oh nough for Christmas? Yes, yeah, get it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Tell me cans R and B money shot talk about it.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 10: We about to start putting more merch on there and everything.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: You know, I mean, we got to crack it out.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 10: It's for marbles. You know what they be saying is
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: so and organic and all other stuff.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all that stuff.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Whatever they say.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: You know, does it smell good? Whatever?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: My period smell like you need to be in my house.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: But I'm sending them to the to the show that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: y'all will all have them.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: Thank you. You know, keep that we can't burn it up.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: Every Now You'll got a lot of other candles up here.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: You're gonna send it up.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Where's the where's the envy water man in the back?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: D I I got fired, not that we get fired,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: but when Walmart to stopped doing the de I business
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: and they start doing the business.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: They took the black a lot of the owners of
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: black businesses.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Out of their stores, which makes it more difficult.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: So how did you get fired?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Then if they get they took my water out.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: So all the water we have now goes to the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: other mom and pop stores to make sure we can.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: We're supporting all things black. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: You have it.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: J Valentine is the breakfast club. Good morning?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Hold up? Every day I wake up, click your glass up.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club