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America’s blue-collar revolution · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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Welcome everyone.
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You are listening to Unleash the Political News Hour on America Out Loud News.
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I'm your host, Mayor Deb.
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And joining me today is a returning guest, author Michael McCarthy.
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And as many of you know, Michael is a longtime contributor and author here on America Out Loud.
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I invited him today to discuss two of his articles.
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And uh wanted to thank him first for taking the time out of his schedule to be with me today.
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Mike, thanks for always a pleasure to be on your show, Mayor Deb.
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Good.
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Yeah, and so I'm gonna jump right into it.
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Uh the first article that I want to talk about is titled Plumbing is Rocket Science.
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And you get into the Apollo 13 moon mission, Artemis 2's mission, and Jimmy Kimmel.
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So tell us, you know, how does that relate to politics and why did you write this article?
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Well, of course, the uh title is a play on words where somebody will say doing such and such is not rocket science, meaning it's really simple.
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Well, it's what we found out with this Artemis rocket that the big threat to the mission was the toilet got clogged up.
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So plumbing, as it turns out, is rocket science.
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The engineers at Houston had to radio up step-by-step instructions to uh astronaut Christina Koch to how to disassemble the toilet and reassemble it and get it working again.
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And so it turns out that plumbing is rocket science, at least on the spacecraft.
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So it annoyed me when Jimmy Kimmel uh made a put down of the recent uh nominee to take over homeless uh homeland security, uh Mr.
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Mullen, and said his previous background included that he owned and operated a plumbing company and said, Oh, plumbers, they're not quality that doesn't make him qualified to run homeland security.
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And it always annoys me that people who are pundits and deal with words, but don't actually make anything.
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They just sit there and talk, that they want to put down people who are the makers uh and people that keep our country going, the farmers, the carpenters, the plumbers, the electricians, um, the shopkeepers, people that do all the daily work to keep our country going, uh, without which um Mr.
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Kimmel and you and I would not get very far.
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So that's what inspired me to write this article to say here's yet another example of just how important something that we think is mundane, like plumbing, uh, is even on the spacecraft.
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Um, I'm reminded that oh gosh, my memory slipping here, that Canadian psychologist um who is so popular in conservative circles, he made a comment about more lives were saved by plumbers than by doctors because of sanitation.
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When you think of uh old-fashioned sanitation, when we would be in in medieval London, you'd be throwing the bedpan out the window to splash on the streets.
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This is why disease was so rampant.
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And if you had to wait for the doctor to cure you, it might be too late.
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But the plumbers prevented it from happening in the first place by giving us indoor plumbing.
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So that's why I felt like this was uh uh important just to contradict this attitude of contestation, condescension against people like plumbers.
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Yeah, so uh for folks reference, it was the March 26th episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live, where Kimmel referring to home security appointee, Mr.
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Mollin.
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Uh, he said that uh this is Kimmel, that is not necessarily the kind of resume you hope for the person in charge of protecting us from terrorism.
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And uh to that end, I think that it's a pretty well-known fact uh that Jimmy Kimmel is definitely uh a strong supporter and has strong ties to the Democrat Party.
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And I think if you listen to his monologues ever, um you can really, you know, connect that dot and see that uh he takes every opportunity he has to strike out at Republicans.
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Um, so you know, and as you said, Mike, I mean, you make a great point.
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Blue-collar workers, I believe, and I think you'll agree, are really the backbone of our country.
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Um, without the plumbers, without the electricians, without the builders, without the construction, uh what would what would we have?
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What type of infrastructure would we have?
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A very poor one.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So um, you know, do you think uh today that we're seeing that pendulum swing back?
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Um meaning away from everyone, every child after high school needs to go to college.
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Everyone needs to strive for a white-collar position.
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Do you see that maybe now we're rethinking that as a nation, uh, especially with AI and technology taking over, many of the white-collar positions can be automated in a much quicker, more cost-effective manner.
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Yes, I think you're right.
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And whereas AI could take over uh even writing an article uh such as you and I do, um, because it's dealing with words and it can glean these words, uh, cutting and pasting from other sources on the internet.
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AI can't unclog the toilet in my bathroom.
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AI couldn't unclog the toilet on the spacecraft.
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And AI can't do can't assemble an automobile on the auto assembly line.
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Assemble an automobile on the auto assembly line.
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It takes human hands and automation.
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It takes human hands and automation, and even when robot workers in a factory do certain tasks that used to be done by human beings, they still need maintenance people because these automated machinery sometimes they break down.
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And even when robot workers in a factory do certain tasks that used to be done by human beings, they still need maintenance people because these automated machinery sometimes they break down.
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They need preventive maintenance.
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They need preventive maintenance, and that takes a human being to do it.
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And that takes a human being to do it.
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So this trend of oh, you've got to to get a good paying job, you've got to go to college and and get some.
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So this trend of, oh, you've got to get a good paying job, you've got to go to college and get some white collar thing.
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This is changing where all the blue-collar jobs are paying better and have more demand for them.
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And so I'm reminded of a joke I heard about the plumbers, where the joke goes like this the brain surgeon had a leak in his sink at home, and so he calls in the plumber to repair it.
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The plumber comes in, quickly repairs it inside of 15 minutes.
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The brain surgeon says, How much do I owe you?
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And the plumber says, that'll be 200.
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And the brain surgeon quickly does the math and says, wait a minute, 15 minutes is a quarter of an hour times four.
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That's the equivalent of $800 an hour.
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I'm a brain surgeon and I don't make $800 an hour.
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And the plumber says, back when I was a brain surgeon, I didn't make $800 an hour either.
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So parents who want their children to do well financially need to rethink people going into fields such as electrician, plumbers, carpenters, builders, shopkeepers, restaurant owners, et cetera, because they can still make a lot of money.
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Yeah.
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And you wrote in your article, Mike.
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Kimmel's comment is typical of the urban elitists who look down on the people who make our country work.
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Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, factory workers, and impliance installers.
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These people are very intelligent.
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They just don't use big words.
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They keep it simple so that even a know it-all like Kimmel might understand it.
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Um, and I think you just said so much in that sentence because uh you you're absolutely right.
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I mean, these are really the people that keep our country moving along day after day.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So and you know, the notion that intelligence uh is often measured by these paper and pencil tests.
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Um, I studied some of those in graduate school, whether it's IQ tests or aptitude tests or whatever.
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Well, they are based upon a facility with words.
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And if you substitute um something else, such as the plumbing test about how does the plumbing fit together and how to get things done, I would fail the plumbing test.
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Does that make me a dumb person?
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Well, no, it means I haven't studied plumbing.
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If I were to give a standard IQ test to a plumber and they were to score low, it just means they don't know a lot of the big words used in the IQ test.
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It doesn't mean they're low intelligence.
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So using things like that to make a judgment about someone's intelligence, I think is wrong.
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I find people like that in my career working with people in factories and uh and so on are very intelligent.
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Yeah.
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Definitely.
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And uh the other point that I thought about, I recently saw uh two articles regarding the healthcare industry.
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Um, one was talking about how radiology uh may be slowly getting replaced by AI because of their ability to scan the X-rays at a very high success rate and you know, diagnose the patient.
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And the other thing that I thought was interesting, either in North or South Carolina at a hospital, there was an automated robot that is uh the screen has the face of a doctor that connects into it, and the robot goes from room to room meeting with the patients via the screen, uh, not having the doctor sit in person.
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And I thought that that too was very interesting because when we think about healthcare roles, we sometimes think that perhaps they're untouchable when it comes to AI technology.
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And once again, I think that there are roles within healthcare, like a hands-on nurse, for example.
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Those roles I think will be more untouchable than perhaps the radiologist or even the doctor.
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And uh, and it just once again, these hands-on roles in blue-collar uh work, plumbers, electricians, builders, et cetera.
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I think that those are somewhat marked safe, uh, if that's even a thing when it comes to the takeover of AI.
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Agreed.
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And I advise young people looking to what to study to go for those rules because the plumber and the nurse, that job can't be outsourced to China, can't be outsourced to AI.
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You have to be physically present to do it and do it well.
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Great point.
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All right.
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Uh, we're going to take a break, and when we get back, uh, we are going to discuss Michael McCarthy's article uh titled, Have We Imported Islamic Conquerors to America.
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And that ties in, I think, to the trilogy uh novels that you have.
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Uh, one in particular is the Tim Shell option.
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So I hope everybody stays to stays tuned in to the show because we have a lot of interesting points to discuss.
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Mike, thanks for joining me today.
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Once again.
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All right.
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I know I just wanted to make sure we wrapped up our first discussion of the article, Plumbing is Rocket Science.
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Do you have any other closing thoughts on that article?
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Well, just that I wanted to give a shout out to husbands and handymen everywhere.
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That article isn't posted yet on America Out Loud, but when it does, there's a link uh to history.com about the Apollo 13 moon mission and how they had to uh improvise a solution to their problem of filtering out the carbon dioxide.
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And when you click on that link, there's a picture of this improvised device taped up against the air uh intake or exhaust, and you'll see it's taped up with duct tape.
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And so, true to the good to the hearts of husbands and handyman everywhere, duct tape and WD 40 will solve 90% of your problems.
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So just want to give a little shout out for duct tape.
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Oh my goodness, you are so right.
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I I can't tell you how many times I've pulled out duct tape for just any and everything.
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Uh so great point.
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And uh we're going to now turn the page and to your next article, which is titled, Have We Imported Islamic Conquerors to America.
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And I just want to ask the question to anyone who is listening.
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Do we want Sharia law in America?
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How do we feel about Sharia law?
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I guess that's my jumping off point for our discussion today.
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And in particular, I know that you referenced that in 2023 in Minneapolis, Minnesota, uh that city became the first major U.S.
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city to allow the broadcasts of the Muslim call to prayer at all hours.
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It can now be heard over speakers five times a day year round.
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So let's start there.
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Okay, well, the idea that as they um uh begin to practice these things, um it becomes more of a symbol of Islamic dominance because we've seen these scenes uh reported in the news of um Muslims going out in the streets in Dearborn, Michigan and in Chicago, New York City, and in Islamic countries, they don't do their praying on the streets, they go to the mosque.
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So the point being that by filling the street up and putting down their prayer rugs and praying, they're signaling we are in charge, we are the dominant uh culture here, we will tell you what to do.
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And what's uh I saw a recent uh video, a little short, uh about a gentleman in England who was out walking his dog.
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Now, if you know anybody from England, they love their dogs.
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It's a uh practically a British cultural thing that you have your dogs.
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I remember uh it was my first experience going into a pub and they allowed dogs in the pub.
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And this is before this was happening in the United States over 20 or 30 years ago.
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They love their dogs.
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So here's a man out walking his dog, and he was physically attacked by one of these Muslim immigrants because they were regard dogs as quote unclean.
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Um, so it becomes a thing where they start to impose it with government uh authority and government force, like the police force, as opposed to just respecting customs.
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Like you and I wouldn't go out if we didn't believe in Christmas, for example, and that's a religious tradition.
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If I saw somebody decorating a Christmas tree in their front yard, I wouldn't go out and attack them.
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I would say, well, I don't believe in that, so I'm not going to put one in my yard.
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So it's kind of live and let live.
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But when you have this aggressive attitude, and so when I saw that there are all these scams being run in Dearborn in Chicago and other places and in Minneapolis with the Somalis, where they're funneling off the taxpayer money, and they regard that as fair game.
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Uh it shows that there's a different ethic, like in their way of looking at things, uh, it's okay to lie, cheat and steal if it's from non-believers.
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Whereas you and I would say it's if I rob the bank, it's it's wrong, no matter what the religion of the bank employees are.
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So it's a different attitude.
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And within their culture and sharia law, there's something called jizyah, which is if you're a non-Muslim in a in a Muslim country that's run by Sharia law, you are required to pay a tax called the jizya for the privilege of living there without being harassed and beaten and murdered.
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Uh so in effect, we are already paying jiza when we have all these government services and we give housing and food and clothing and free medical care to all these uh immigrants.
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Uh, they regard that as well, we're the ruling class and and all the other people uh in America are our servants.
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You know, you've you you say a lot in uh all of that, and I I just want to focus in where you say a soft conquest.
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Um for example, when a group gets together in a on a public street, uh rolls out their prayer mats and shuts that down for general public use.
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I I find it interesting because I know that there are mosques, um, and typically, you know, for so I'll use Christianity for a second, you know, Christians go to a church to worship.
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Because I know that there are mosques.
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And typically, you know, for so I'll use Christianity for a second, you know, Christians go to a church to worship.
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Uh, I would believe that Muslims would go to their mosque to worship.
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I would believe that Muslims would go to their mosque to worship.
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So this idea of imposing this upon everyone in the surrounding area at the time does feel like a soft conquest to me.
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So this idea of imposing this upon everyone in the surrounding area at the time does feel like a soft conquest to me.
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Just so they're they're coming in and gradually saying if you criticize anything that we do, it's quote, Islamophobia and all these labels that they have learned that this is what the American left responds to.
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If you call somebody a name, you're racist, you're homophobe, you're this phobe, you're that phobe, um, that it gets people to back off and say, oh, my goodness, I can't possibly offend you by doing anything that you say is quote phobic, therefore I will let you have your way.
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And so this is their blood force weapon, their word weapon to get the rest of us to back off.
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And so, yes, it's a soft invasion in the sense of a traditional invasion would be like D-Day, the soldiers storming the beaches and swarming ashore and shooting people and uh aircraft attacks and explosions and so forth.
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Well, they're coming in through our borders.
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They're coming in uh through aircraft uh flights from these countries and being welcomed as illegal immigrants under the old uh administration and being given free housing, free medical care, free schooling for their children, free food uh and so on.
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And so that's that's an in essence this goes back to feudalism in medieval Europe.
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If you were the duchess of whatever, the Duchess of Burgundy, uh, I'm the serf out there working and tilling the fields and uh milking the cows and so forth and doing all the work, and you sit up in the castle and enjoy all the the food and the benefits and the cloth woven for you by the peasants.
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So if we're handing over these things and they're doing nothing, they're like the Duke and Duchess, and the rest of us are the working serfs who are uh their servants or their slaves.
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Yeah, you know, I'm I'm reminded, and I I just want to share a little bit of my background.
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So I grew up in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, and uh when immigrants came over to this country, many of them landed uh in Johnstown because there was a need for coal miners.
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And uh within the community I grew up with, there was a different church uh on every corner, and it's an area of town called Cambria City, which folks can look it up and if they want to even take a visit.
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But beautiful churches were built.
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You had uh the Germans building one church, the Slovaks building another, the um Irish Catholics building another.
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And there were also these ethnic clubs.
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So if you were German, you were part of the German ethnic club.
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If you were Polish, you had your own Polish club.
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And the interesting thing is that the idea of a melting pot is just that is bringing in all these different backgrounds and nationalities, bringing them, if you will, into one singular pot, and everyone kind of melting or meshing and respecting the other's views and getting along and living in harmony.
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However, what we are seeing, though, with many immigrants today, that is not the case of what I just described.
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And I think that that has become very problematic for this country, and coupled with the fact that the government seems to want to support that ideology and lifestyle.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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Well, that was part of the strength of America, as you say, the melting pot.
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We'd have all these people with their different cultures, but they all respected one another.
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Um the Polish community didn't insist that all restaurants cook and serve only Polish food, the uh German community didn't insist that everybody speak German and cook only German food and observe all German holidays, that we benefited from that.
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I enjoy going to a German restaurant.
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I go enjoy going to a Polish restaurant and eating the ethnic foods, but I'm not being forced to do that.
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And that's the beauty of America.
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If you and I walk into a uh my local grocery store, there's a whole aisle divided uh devoted to Asian foods.
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There's a whole isle divided devoted to Hispanic foods.
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Now, none of us are forced to eat those things, but we have this wonderful array of choices, and choice is the key word there, uh, as that we're given freedom to do that.
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And under Islamic law, you're given no freedom.
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You are forced to follow their culture.
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We see now in England, for example, that's got the sizable Islamic minority that is voting their way into government, uh, that they're insisting that local restaurants serve only halal food.
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Well, that would be like um kosher food.
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Well, I enjoy kosher food, but I don't want to be forced to eat it all the time.
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It's a choice you can enjoy.
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Um, so that ties back into my novel, the Timshul option, because the word timschul in Hebrew means thou mayest, meaning freedom of choice.
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Uh, and so I I built on that concept of freedom to make up your own mind about things, to do things or not do things, that that's what's great about America, that we have this freedom of choice.
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Absolutely.
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And and my point in sharing that history of Johnstown, Pennsylvania and what that area was founded upon is just that something has changed since then.
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So when people give lip service and they talk about America, we should have open borders, we should have unfettered access, we should allow any and everyone in, even those who want to conquer us and don't like the fact that we have dogs as pets, and and the list goes on and on.
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Don't like the fact that we have dogs as pets and the list goes on and on.
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That is not the same as what I described on the building of a city like Johnstown, Pennsylvania and the cultural heritage and the richness that is there.
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That is not the same as what I described on the building of a city like Johnstown, Pennsylvania and the cultural heritage and the richness that is there.
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And for anyone who doesn't see that, I I would just have to say they don't want to see it because they are completely opposite in nature.
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And for anyone who doesn't see that, I would just have to say they don't want to see it because they are completely opposite in nature.
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And I I think that now.
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And I I think that now, you know, you mentioned this Tim Shell option, which is one of the books in your trilogy.
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And I think that this book is so timely with what we're seeing happening, not only here in the United States, but you mentioned your inspiration for writing the book, which was when you were following the news about Middle Eastern migrants who were groping and raping women in Cologne, Germany in 2016.
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So tell us about how you saw that news, and then what prompted you to write about it.
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Well, as usual, I I say that I take current events and try to project them four or five years into the future.
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And my problem is I can't type fast enough that I'd be writing something that I think, oh, this isn't going to happen for five or six years, and then turn on the nightly news, and it's already happening.
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So here we were in Cologne, Germany, uh people going out for a public celebration and women going out, German women going out for a public celebration.
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Well, in Islamic culture, an unaccompanied woman is considered fair game for rape.
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So therefore, these women in the public square in Cologne, Germany, and of course the famous uh Cologne Cathedral there in the public square, uh, they were all being groped and try uh and maybe even raped.
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I'm not sure about that part.
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But the point that we think of this is horrible, but it's permissible under Sharia law that any non-Muslim woman who's unaccompanied is fair game.
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Uh and it's uh, you know, to grope and rape and murder is a sign of dominance.
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It puts them in their place, so to speak.
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Uh and the most awful example of that that I reference with a link on that article, is uh the the CBS reporter Laura Logan in Egypt, uh, and I've uh include the link there, where she was again walking alone by herself as an unaccompanied woman uh in a square in Egypt, and she was nearly raped by a great gang of men, and they even have a name for it the Taharush Gamea, the rape game.
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Oh, let's play a game.
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You know, you know, you not would talk about, oh, let's play a murder game, let's go out and have a contest.
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How many people can you murder versus how many people I can murder?
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I mean, it's just appalling, and yet that's part of their culture.
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So when I say that we're importing conquerors, uh, they have a whole different cultural ethic.
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Um, and they don't want to uh uh adapt or assimilate or be part of the molting pot.
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They want to be the top of the pot, so to speak, and dictate to the rest of us.
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Uh, and that's why I say the danger is so when I wrote this book called the Timschol option, uh, Timshul, meaning that you have free choice, um it was showing that under this type of regime, religious law is also the government law, that it is a theocracy, not a democracy.
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And therefore, you're gonna have to live, whether you're a Muslim or not, you're gonna have to live by all these uh Muslim laws under Sharia.
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Uh and so I I showed, for example, the um Muslim invaders in my projected New England caliphate uh invading a classroom and telling all the girls that they've got to go home.
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And before they leave the classroom, they've got to put on the burqa to cover themselves up.
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And under Muslim way of thinking, girls were not allowed to go to school.
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So to kick all the girls out of school and tell them to stay home.
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And I showed my one girl, uh, Christina, which I chose that name, Christina, because it is derived from the word Christ and Christian.
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Uh, my characters, my heroes and heroines are Christians, uh, to say, well, she tries to resist this.
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And uh I was, and there's numerous examples in history, and and so one of the little plot points is that she learns about Madame Curie.
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Well, guess what?
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When Madame Curie was Marie Slodowska in Poland, they were dominated by the Russians, and the Russians would not allow girls to go to school.
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So Marie Curie, uh, Marie Slioska and her friends formed what they called a flying university where they would meet at night in secret, and they would find people to teach them, and they would change the location from each week.
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And so they found a way to educate themselves regardless.
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Um, and so that's what I showed my heroine doing, organizing her own flying university uh to keep up with education, even though technically girls were not allowed in school anymore.
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So this is an example of the type of uh top-down control that is a bad thing, and it's it's bad for America.
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The reason America is so prosperous and successful is because we restricted government and we restricted the amount of top-down control.
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Every nation that has it, look at North Korea, uh, they're a basket case.
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They're people are on the verge of starving.
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Um, I always like to cite if you go on the NASA website and look up the satellite night view of the sky of Korea.
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It the North North Korean part is almost virtually dark, just a few pricks of light, whereas South Korea is ablaze from light because they've got a free prosperous uh economy where they don't try to control everybody.
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So again, Timshul, Thou Mayus, free choice, free will.
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We can we have the freedom to do right or do bad, but we're not being forced into it.
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All right.
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Well, we're gonna end on that great note.
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And when we get back, uh we'll be talking more about uh your article and your books, author Mike McCarthy.
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Stay tuned.
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During our break, I uh wanted to take a look at uh just exactly how many ethnic social clubs and churches were in the Cambria City neighborhood that I referenced where I grew up in Johnstown, Pennsylvania.
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And uh historically at its peak, Johnstown, Pennsylvania had over 100 ethnic clubs.
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And Cambria City had 10 ethnic churches in a 14-acre area, which is very concentrated.
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Uh and many of those churches today have been uh closed and are being repurposed for social type uh halls.
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And uh if you're interested, there is something called a Cambria City ethnic festival this year that runs from August 29th through September 6th, and many of those churches and social clubs are open.
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Uh you can access them and take a look at just the beautiful, incredible architecture, and uh get some great ethnic food as well.
37:51
So uh on that note, Mike, let's pick back up now with uh where we left off, the Timshell option.
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You uh the basis of the book is this uh troops from ISIS invade New England, they form the New England caliphate and enforce Sharia law.
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Girls are no longer allowed to attend school, females must wear a burqa, women must be chaperone by male male relatives in public, women are not allowed to drive.
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The new England caliphate is an Islamic theocracy duplicating the way women are actually treated in the Middle East today.
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And when I hear myself reading that description, I I can't but think of the series The Handmaid's Tales.
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Uh, I don't know if you're familiar with that, Mike, but uh, you know, if the burkas are colored red, I think uh we have all the makings of that show.
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Well, that was one of the um comparisons I made when I first introduced this book to say this is a uh Islamic version of the handmaid's tale where the women are tightly controlled, and um except they're treated even worse than they are in the handmaid's tale, because if you were to venture outside your house without being accompanied by a male relative, your fair game for rape and murder and abduction and being beaten up and anything else.
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Um that's why I I focused on that word timshu, because it's a word from the old testament.
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There's a Hebrew word that means thou mayest.
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And I first learned about that reading John Steinbeck's novel East of Eden, which is a retailing of the Cain and Abel story, uh, where he updated it.
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So the word chimpshul is where in that story in the biblical story of Cain and Abel, uh Pain, of course, murders his brother Abel, and then he despairs, saying, wherever I go, I'll have the mark of Cain.
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Uh, people will want to uh persecute me or murder me or or whatever.
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And God says, don't despair.
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Thou mayest overcome evil, meaning just because you've done one bad thing doesn't mean you have to continue to do bad things.
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You always have free will, free choice, and that's symbolized by that word Timshul.
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Um, so I chose that word.
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It plays a part in John Steinbeck's novel.
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So I chose that word for the um as part of the title of of this book to symbolize the idea that even if you've got a revenge motive against somebody, you don't have to take revenge, you don't have to do bad things.
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It's up to you.
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And that ties in to another point I made in my article is uh I was hoping this book, among others would appeal to young adults because so many of them are being brainwashed in school today to think there's only one way of looking at things, and you're not to think for yourself.
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We will tell you what to think instead of teaching you how to think, how to reason things out for yourself, how to gather data, how to gather evidence, uh, which is another uh uh way of thinking of the scientific method.
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We uh gather data and draw conclusions from that.
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So young adults are our last best hope, and yet they're being told to do this.
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And another I read something on Substack recently, which I've I'm seeing a lot of good writers on that uh platform on the internet, uh, that goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden and pointing out something I hadn't considered, which is when the story of Adam and Eve, and then they were told they've got this incredible abundance, they've got hundreds of fruit trees, they've got all kind of berry bushes and food abundantly growing around them.
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But God says, but don't eat of this one tree.
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Don't eat of this one trade.
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So one among hundreds.
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So one among hundreds.
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So, you know, what's the problem?
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So, you know, what's the problem?
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You got you got all kinds of abundance there.
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You got you got all kinds of abundance there, and so Satan, the devil comes in and says, Oh, but God tell you not to eat this one tree.
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And so Satan, the devil comes in and says, Oh, but did God tell you not to eat this one tree?
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Is that what he really meant?
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Is that what he really meant?
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And so it focuses them not on the abundance that they already have, but on the one thing that they don't have, which they don't really need to have, which is eat from that one tree.
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And so it focuses them not on the abundance that they already have, but on the one thing that they don't have, which they don't really need to have, which is eat from that one tree.
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And then the story progresses is when God comes back and says to them, Did you eat from the tree?
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And then what does Adam say?
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Oh, instead of taking responsibility and say, Yes, I did, and I was wrong, and it's my bad.
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He says, Oh, well, the woman made me eat it.
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And then when God says to Eve, well, why did you do this?
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And then she points the finger at, well, the serpent made me do it.
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So the other original sin, if you will, is failing to take responsibility for your own actions, pointing the finger at somebody else continually.
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And this is what we see in all these leftist movements today.
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They're not constructive of let's build something, let's create something, uh, let's build a highway, let's build a factory to create jobs.
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It's always what's wrong and let's point the finger at everybody else.
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And so pointing the finger might be the original sin because it symbolizes you're not taking responsibility for yourself to say, I did it.
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No, point the finger at somebody else.
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Oh no, it was this other person, it's all their fault.
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And of course, in history, that's what's always happened in Western civilization with groups and nationalities pointing the finger at the Jews.
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Oh, it must be their fault.
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So whether it's Hitler or any other Stalin, he did the same thing, he pointed at the Jews, or he found the Kulaks, the uh farmers in the Ukraine there in the 1930s to point the finger at them.
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It's all their fault.
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Um pointing the finger and saying, instead of improve things for yourself, take responsibility and make things better.
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No, let's just complain and point the finger at somebody else.
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That's the root cause of a lot of our evil.
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And I'm hoping the young people will learn to think for themselves and stop pointing the finger and say, what can we do to make things better?
44:26
Yeah, that's a really uh good point.
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And I just back to our education system for a minute.
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You know, I think uh one of the issues is that students today uh are really accessing much of their information through AI, through, you know, chat GPT, for example.
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And the problem with that is who is programming that chat GPT or the AI.
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So obviously somebody is that information is getting in there, and it's then being distributed to people who are accessing it.
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So the ability to reprogram history or reprogram a ideology or a way of life or a way of thinking is at the whim of whoever is programming the AI.
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Whereas, you know, in days of old, where if you were doing a research paper, I can remember going to the college library and physically finding 10 books that I was using to support my research paper and having them stacked on the table in front of me and flipping through and getting to the right page and getting the quotes and so forth.
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And today we have gotten away from that through, you know, gotten away from the libraries and the physical books.
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And I think that that's there's a mistake somewhere in there because of that, it is so much easier to erase things or change things to fit your narrative than it used to be.
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What are your thoughts on what I just said exactly?
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If all the things are digital, it's easy to erase them at the stroke of a of a keyboard button.
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Uh and as you say, going for physical books.
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I remember seven or eight years ago, my wife and I were on a tour of Poland, and one of our tour guides talked about how uh Wikipedia and so forth anybody can get on it and insert something, whether it's true or not.
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Uh, and he said he was busy collecting print versions of encyclopedias.
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He was buying a Polish encyclopedia.
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He was buying at the encyclopedia britannica, going to use bookstores, because the physical books can't be instantly programmed, you know, unless you want to start tearing pages out of them.
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Whereas as you say, uh AI is simply uh uh a processing mechanism, and the old uh saying is garbage in, garbage out.
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If you and I put up a lot of garbage on websites and say, well, uh the American Revolution never happened, well, the Holocaust never happened.
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Well, Chinese communism is a good thing.
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AI just goes out and summarizes what they find on websites.
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And if what they're finding on websites is garbage, uh and I've attempted to use it a time or two, and I just see this mishmash of uh opinions and supposed facts that contradicts one another because it's just summarizing what it finds on websites, and so once again, garbage in, garbage out.
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Uh, you've got to be able to verify this.
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And of course, we were warned, George Orwell's famous novel 1984, his hero Winston, that was his job was editing out the news.
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So somebody who was a hero to the state uh the state totalitarians one day was declared an enemy of the people the next day, and so he removed all references to that person.
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Now, he was still talking in terms of paper back then, and putting it down what he called the memory hole, which meant the paper went into an incinerator and all written records of this man who was now declared an enemy of the state was erased from alt historical records.
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And of course, it's much easier with you and I being able to go on and just delete our website from our browser uh so we don't even see it or block it.
48:52
Yeah, not only is it so easy to just erase full blocks of history, but it's also very easy to pit one group against the other based on the propaganda or narrative that is being put out.
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Very easy to pit one group against the other based on the propaganda or narrative that is being put out.
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And uh, we saw a lot of that, you know, obviously during the COVID experiment, uh, where you know, those who were pro-vaccination, uh pro-business closures were being pitted against people who were all about personal choice.
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And we saw a lot of that, you know, obviously during the COVID experiment, uh, where you know, those who were pro-vaccination, uh, pro-business closures were being pitted against people who were all about personal choice.
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Um, and so it it's just it's very
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Um, and so it it's just it's very telling the the direction that our school systems are going in.
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And it's definitely in an automated direction, even though they say we don't want students using AI.
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The the fact of the matter is is that most students are using AI.
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And uh I think that the way that we really make education great again is to get back to books, um, getting back to you know, having that in your hands and verifying what is really or what was written in the early 1900s versus what you're looking up and AI says was written in a text from the early 1900s.
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Just so, and of course, along with that to evaluate it, there's a lot of books that are written that are wrong, also, they don't have their facts right.
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But if you sort through that for yourself and use your own intelligence uh as opposed to as you reference COVID, we were saying anybody who denied the idea of a COVID vaccine was called a science denier.
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Well, how about using your own lived experience, as they like to say on the left?
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My lived experience was I got the COVID vaccine, and guess what?
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I got COVID anyway.
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So that was enough for me.
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I didn't get any more of those supposed booster shots because I said, you know, they lied to us.
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They said it was a vaccine.
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A vaccine is supposed to prevent the disease, and it did not.
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So I can use my own powers of observation and logic to figure out for myself uh what's true and what's not true, as opposed to, oh, I'll accept what they're saying is that I've got to get all these additional vaccines because if I don't, I'm one of those awful science deniers.
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Yeah, and what we um further saw on that example is people were really uh their whole ideology of who they are, their their being, their egos got so intertwined with that narrative that the moment anyone dared to question the science or question that narrative that was put forth in mainstream media, those people became very defensive because their very self uh being or self-worth was somewhat threatened by those who were looking at that whole experiment with a critical thinking or common sense uh purview.
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Exactly.
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When common sense will tell you that hey, if the vaccine did not prevent this given disease, then logically it is not a vaccine.
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It was an attempted vaccine, but it didn't work.
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So don't take it anymore.
52:31
So one of the common sense slogans is if what you're doing doesn't work, don't do the same thing harder.
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So if I've added I'm cooking something and I've added pepper to it and made it too spicy, don't do the same thing harder.
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Don't keep adding pepper, because that's going to make it even more spicy and harder to consume.
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So if the first vaccine didn't work, oh, let's take more vaccines.
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It's doing the same thing harder, which defies common sense.
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So you can use your own God-given sense of common sense of what works and what doesn't work, and you draw your conclusions from there, as opposed to being told, oh no, ignore that.
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It's still a good thing, even though you're still getting COVID and as in this example.
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Um, and the idea that their identity is threatened because whatever they tell us is supposed to be accepted without question.
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Oh, yes, if you said so, it must be right.
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It must be true.
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Even when my own common sense shows me, hey, I already tried it, it didn't work.
53:37
Yeah, I mean, I think just to sum that up, you know, the government is not here to save us, right?
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And uh I if people could only uh stop sacrificing their freedoms, their liberties, their common sense and critical thinking, if they would just stop sacrificing those things for the sake of convenience and quickness and autonomous um transactions, then I think you know, we have a chance of pushing forward as a republic, perhaps for another 250 years.
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But I think if we really aren't going to turn that around, I I personally don't see us surviving for another 250 years as such.
54:27
Well, I don't either.
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That's why I I fear for my country, uh, if we don't start relying on ourselves and relying on common sense and what we can see happening, what works and what doesn't work.
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And this top-down government control does not work, it does not produce prosperity.
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And as we saw in East Germany versus West Germany, uh, North Korea versus South Korea, uh, you see this evident everywhere that this top-down control is has been imposed on people and they're not given a choice anymore.
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You you no longer have innovation and prosperity.
55:05
All right.
55:06
Well, on that note, everyone, uh, my advice is just uh let's take things back into control and uh stop depending on the government to uh save us.
55:19
Mike, where can folks reach you?
55:22
Uh, where can they find your work?
55:24
Uh, America Out Loud News, anywhere else.
55:29
Well, there's my website, the NOAA option.com, uh, which tells you a little bit more about my books, and of course, on the links from my articles take you to the America Out Loud Bookstore where my books are available.
55:44
Um those are good places to start.
55:51
That's where you you can you can read it and read my articles on America Out Loud and listen to the um wonderful podcast by Mayor Deb here, me and other sources giving you some words of wisdom.
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Wonderful podcast by Mayor Deb.
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Here, me and other sources giving you some words of wisdom.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
56:08
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to come on.
56:08
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to come on and uh I hope that uh folks will take a look at your articles.
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And uh I hope that uh folks will take a look at your articles.
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You've got quite a few of them on there.
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You've got quite a few of them on there.
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Um, I have the books.
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Um I have the books.
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I think they're outstanding and very thought provoking, especially for if you have a young reader in your household.
56:21
I think they're outstanding and very thought provoking, especially if you have a young reader in your household.
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Uh, just a good way to um kind of uh get them thinking with uh the lens of common sense.
56:39
And on that note, I am going to sign off and encourage every one of you to be good to each other and God bless.
56:49
Thanks, Mike.