Latest / Steve Price / Steve Price | 10 July
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Live.
- 0:02Speaker 2: This is Steve Price.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm James Morrow,
- 0:09Speaker 3: filling in tonight for Steve Price, who will be back
- 0:11Speaker 3: next week. Don't you worry? Well, big show tonight. Here's
- 0:15Speaker 3: what's coming up. A rural revolt is growing. Farmers are
- 0:19Speaker 3: digging in against the new South Wales government over a
- 0:23Speaker 3: major renewable energy project they say is going to destroy
- 0:26Speaker 3: prime farmland, send power bill soaring and become a twenty
- 0:31Speaker 3: billion dollar white elephant. Have that up soon. Plus just
- 0:36Speaker 3: sin to Alan is under fresh pressure tonight after being
- 0:39Speaker 3: referred to Victoria's anti corruption watchdog over explosive big build allegations.
- 0:45Speaker 3: We'll have the latest on all that from Melbourne. Plus
- 0:49Speaker 3: Angus Taylor, Well he's taken aim at one Nation, but
- 0:52Speaker 3: Pauline Hansen says, why is the opposition leader targeting her
- 0:57Speaker 3: instead of fighting a bad labor guy in Canbra And
- 1:01Speaker 3: of course we'll be talking about the death of Darren Hinch,
- 1:05Speaker 3: the human headline back of the News for the last time.
- 1:07Speaker 3: We're going to pay tribute to him tonight with our
- 1:09Speaker 3: Friday Night panel. But before we get to all of that,
- 1:13Speaker 3: I wanted to have a little chat with you about
- 1:17Speaker 3: what happened in Melbourne last night and what it says
- 1:20Speaker 3: about the ongoing debate about multiculturalism. You see, there was
- 1:25Speaker 3: a major political rally held last night at Melbourne's Marvel Stadium,
- 1:30Speaker 3: and not just any sort of rally, but a rally
- 1:33Speaker 3: for Indian Prime Minister Noreenzra Modi, who was hosted by
- 1:37Speaker 3: our own Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi. The crowd numbered in
- 1:42Speaker 3: the tens of thousands, and according to one report, tickets
- 1:45Speaker 3: to the event sold out quote faster than a Taylor
- 1:48Speaker 3: Swift concert. Albanizi was almost sickophantic in his welcome, saying
- 1:53Speaker 3: that Modi was quote a dear friend unquote of his,
- 1:56Speaker 3: though he didn't quite go so far as giving him
- 1:59Speaker 3: the full highly Minogue treatment, thank gosh. But anyway, the
- 2:02Speaker 3: two post for selfies and Mody was just as effusive
- 2:06Speaker 3: in return, even doing a welcome to country.
- 2:10Speaker 2: I would like to begin.
- 2:14Speaker 4: By acknowledging the traditional owners of the line on which
- 2:22Speaker 4: we met and I pay my respecse who their elders,
- 2:31Speaker 4: both region and emer ding.
- 2:37Speaker 3: And they were joined by Victorian Premier Jacinta Alan, who
- 2:40Speaker 3: is deeply on the nose and hoping, of course, to
- 2:43Speaker 3: win over the large Indian community in her state. Allan
- 2:47Speaker 3: was also effusive, bragging that Victoria had a larger Indian
- 2:51Speaker 3: population than anywhere in the country. Now, before I go
- 2:55Speaker 3: any further, I want to make sure that we're all
- 2:57Speaker 3: very clear here. I don't want to be us misunderstood.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Austraians of Indian heritage are great contributors to our community.
- 3:06Speaker 3: They are hard working and enterprising. They put a massive
- 3:10Speaker 3: value on education, their kids do phenomenally well in school,
- 3:14Speaker 3: and they are happily seriously underrepresented in crime statistics. But
- 3:21Speaker 3: that said, does anybody else find it a little weird
- 3:27Speaker 3: that our Australian Prime minister hosted a political rally for
- 3:32Speaker 3: a foreign leader on Australian soil, particularly someone like Modi,
- 3:38Speaker 3: who is frankly often criticized for his brand of Hindu nationalism.
- 3:44Speaker 3: I thought we might do a little thought experiment here.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Think about this. Imagine if Nigel Farage, a great, if
- 3:52Speaker 3: controversial exponent of British nationalism. Well, imagine if he becomes
- 3:57Speaker 3: Prime Minister of the UK at their next general election.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Then think about this, Well, there is a huge British
- 4:03Speaker 3: population here in Australia, too. But does anyone imagine that
- 4:09Speaker 3: whomever the Prime Minister of the day is could be
- 4:11Speaker 3: helping Easy Taylor Pauline Hansen. Do you think that they
- 4:15Speaker 3: would get away with holding a rally for them or
- 4:19Speaker 3: Australian soil. I'm not so sure. And the reason why
- 4:25Speaker 3: I am not, and the reason why I think there
- 4:27Speaker 3: is such a debate right now over this whole issue
- 4:31Speaker 3: of multiculturalism, monoculturalism, Australian identity. Why this debate is so
- 4:38Speaker 3: poignant right now is precisely because Australians see the way
- 4:43Speaker 3: under Labour's version of multiculturalism, other cultures, other nationalities are celebrated, elevated,
- 4:50Speaker 3: even with political rallies, even as their own culture is
- 4:56Speaker 3: run down or denigrated. I want to bring a little
- 4:59Speaker 3: bit here of Victoria's premiere just to Alan, who I
- 5:02Speaker 3: mentioned before. Here's a bit of what she had to
- 5:04Speaker 3: say at the rally.
- 5:06Speaker 5: Let me say this to Victoria's great strong Indian community,
- 5:11Speaker 5: who are here tonight.
- 5:13Speaker 2: You are welcome here.
- 5:15Speaker 5: Your children never have to choose between being proudly Indian
- 5:20Speaker 5: and proudly Victorian, because in this state you can be both.
- 5:27Speaker 3: Yeah, you see the issue here, I mean this is
- 5:30Speaker 3: where Tony Abbott goes when he talks about the problem
- 5:34Speaker 3: of an immigration program that encourages people to treat Australia
- 5:37Speaker 3: more like a hotel than a home. And this is
- 5:41Speaker 3: why I am concerned and why I think Australians are
- 5:45Speaker 3: a bit concerned, because not only does this feel like
- 5:48Speaker 3: blatant ethnic politicking, and I guess in some ways there's
- 5:51Speaker 3: nothing new there. But I would say that perhaps a
- 5:54Speaker 3: few people owned just enter price, maybe a little bit
- 5:56Speaker 3: of an apology because this was absolutely about labor courting
- 6:01Speaker 3: ethnic votes. But also think of the message. Think about
- 6:06Speaker 3: what JACINTHA Allan is saying there. It sounds very much
- 6:11Speaker 3: like come to Australia, but you don't need to bother
- 6:16Speaker 3: becoming full members of the Australian community, the Australian mainstream,
- 6:22Speaker 3: which of course is welcoming of people from all over
- 6:25Speaker 3: the world, instead of saying you can live within your
- 6:29Speaker 3: own communities, do your own thing. I mean, the word
- 6:32Speaker 3: assimilation has gone out the window a long time ago.
- 6:35Speaker 3: But this here what we're talking about. I'm sorry, this
- 6:40Speaker 3: is not a recipe for social cohesion. It's a recipe
- 6:44Speaker 3: for ethnic separatism and ghettoization. I don't think anybody wants
- 6:48Speaker 3: to see that. Now there's a bit more that was
- 6:52Speaker 3: funny about this trip. Remember this back during the last
- 6:57Speaker 3: federal election campaign, when Labor was having a scare campaign
- 7:01Speaker 3: around nuclear energy of leaning heavily on the Simpsons, Blinky
- 7:05Speaker 3: the Three Eyed Fish and how many times have you
- 7:09Speaker 3: heard Energy Minister Chris Bowen say lines like this.
- 7:14Speaker 6: The renewables are the cheapest form of energy and nuclear
- 7:18Speaker 6: is the most expensive form of energy in this suspigure.
- 7:20Speaker 6: This is consistent with findings diversis that has been consistent
- 7:24Speaker 6: with continual findings by the SIA, SAIRAH and i EMA.
- 7:28Speaker 3: So this is apparently the Labor position. Nuclear power is
- 7:33Speaker 3: scary and it's expensive. It's the most expensive form of
- 7:36Speaker 3: energy again, at least according to Labor during the last
- 7:40Speaker 3: federal election campaign. And yet on this trip Mody and
- 7:46Speaker 3: Albanizi agreed for Australia to export uranium to India for
- 7:52Speaker 3: use in their civilian nuclear power program. Huh, that's kind
- 7:57Speaker 3: of funny. But think about the contradiction here. On the
- 8:02Speaker 3: one hand, we are told that nuclear power is too
- 8:06Speaker 3: expensive for a rich country like Australia, but it's just
- 8:11Speaker 3: jake for a developing country like India. What are we
- 8:15Speaker 3: doing here? How does this make sense? And it's all
- 8:18Speaker 3: the more interesting when you recall that back in twenty eleven,
- 8:22Speaker 3: at the Federal Labor Caucus that year, Anthony Albanizi opposed
- 8:27Speaker 3: the then Gillard governments moved to lift a ban on
- 8:31Speaker 3: exporting uranium to India. It's certainly changed his tune, hasn't he. Now, Look,
- 8:37Speaker 3: I'm glad we've found a bit of the mining industry.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Labor is not rushing to kneecap by jumping on ancient
- 8:43Speaker 3: wu about blue banded bees or whatever. But again, I ask,
- 8:49Speaker 3: where's the logic India gets cheap energy, Yes, I said,
- 8:53Speaker 3: cheap from Australia via our uranium. That's great getting closer
- 8:58Speaker 3: economic tized visas. But what's it for us here? I'm sorry,
- 9:03Speaker 3: but it does feel like Albo has let himself and
- 9:06Speaker 3: Australia get a bit played here in exchange for a
- 9:10Speaker 3: blessing from a foreign leader and the big swag of
- 9:14Speaker 3: votes he can potentially bring home for labor. Okay, there's
- 9:22Speaker 3: a lot of other news going around tonight. Let's take
- 9:25Speaker 3: a closer look at the coverage out of the New
- 9:27Speaker 3: England region of New South Wales today amazing coverage in
- 9:31Speaker 3: the Daily Telegraph reporting on the New South government, which
- 9:35Speaker 3: claims its highly controversial renewable energy zone is essential for
- 9:39Speaker 3: the state's energy future. But according to the Telegraph, farmers
- 9:44Speaker 3: in the area say this is a brutally expensive project
- 9:47Speaker 3: that will scar productive farmland, drive up power bills and
- 9:51Speaker 3: devastate regional communities. Joining me now to talk us through it,
- 9:56Speaker 3: one of the lead campaigners against this, Cameron Grigg, Aaron,
- 10:00Speaker 3: welcome to the program. Just quickly, countenance, just tell us
- 10:05Speaker 3: about what exactly we are talking about, because not everyone
- 10:08Speaker 3: here is watching from New South Wales. They don't necessarily
- 10:11Speaker 3: know what's being contemplated with these renewable energy zones.
- 10:16Speaker 7: Thanks James, well, thanks for having us. But the renewable
- 10:18Speaker 7: energy zones are a design to collate a lot of
- 10:23Speaker 7: the generation into areas and then they're connected to the
- 10:26Speaker 7: main grid and that's all designed by amos SO. The
- 10:28Speaker 7: New England res is located in the northeast of the
- 10:32Speaker 7: state of New South Wales, the largest of all the
- 10:35Speaker 7: ress but it is the most complex.
- 10:37Speaker 1: Without doubt.
- 10:37Speaker 7: It's rising up through high elevation, steep high rainfall. It's
- 10:43Speaker 7: got poor access native forest, snow prine area. The engineering
- 10:47Speaker 7: challenges are really immense in this area, and energy cozone
- 10:51Speaker 7: resource studies identify that we just simply do not have
- 10:54Speaker 7: the resources in this area to build this. One example
- 10:57Speaker 7: is water alone. Forty six metal is per day is
- 11:01Speaker 7: required to build this generation project and we sit on
- 11:04Speaker 7: the top of the range. We don't have large rivers,
- 11:07Speaker 7: and they're in fact suggesting that we get our water
- 11:09Speaker 7: from the Hunter River three hundred kulumbs away via truck,
- 11:13Speaker 7: So it makes no sense. Fourteen hundred trucks a day
- 11:16Speaker 7: for many years. It's a ridiculous plan. That's why we're reacting.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Cameron, tell us about what the actual proposal is. It
- 11:23Speaker 3: is very high, massive transmission towers, transmission lines with large
- 11:29Speaker 3: exclusion zones around them that would go through some of
- 11:31Speaker 3: the most beautiful, pristine farming and horse country in the country.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Am I right?
- 11:38Speaker 7: Absolutely? I mean this is the highest hanging fruit, It
- 11:42Speaker 7: is the most complex, hardly because that land is so
- 11:45Speaker 7: sought after, people are just not willing to yield because
- 11:48Speaker 7: it is highly productive farmland. I mean, we only have
- 11:51Speaker 7: four percent of Australia that's arable, and you just don't
- 11:56Speaker 7: need to destroy and impact what is left with the
- 12:00Speaker 7: these permanent structures that don't just destroy the farmland, but
- 12:03Speaker 7: they are dividing up some of the most pristine native
- 12:07Speaker 7: forest coming up from Bayswater up to the New England.
- 12:10Speaker 7: It's complex, it's expensive, and it's really damaging to the ecology.
- 12:14Speaker 3: And Cameron, you know, I recall a number of years
- 12:17Speaker 3: ago in this region the government put around moratoriums around
- 12:20Speaker 3: the mining industry because there's a lot of call around
- 12:22Speaker 3: there to protect farm and industry from mining. But it
- 12:25Speaker 3: seems like when it comes to renewables, this labor government
- 12:29Speaker 3: in New South Wales doesn't seem.
- 12:31Speaker 7: To care absolutely. I mean, they seem to get a
- 12:34Speaker 7: free pass with a lot of things, but decommissioning is
- 12:37Speaker 7: one of those things, and decommission decommissioning is a big
- 12:40Speaker 7: risk with these projects. We've seen an abandoned solar project
- 12:45Speaker 7: that was burnt and left to rot. We've seen plenty
- 12:49Speaker 7: of overseas. We've seen plenty of wind turbine plants that
- 12:53Speaker 7: have been left to rot. And in Australia we haven't
- 12:56Speaker 7: got that got to that point yet because I haven't
- 12:58Speaker 7: reached end of life. But that's that's what we say
- 13:01Speaker 7: that the businesses that I'm in these projects don't have
- 13:04Speaker 7: a lot of capital at the end of their life.
- 13:06Speaker 7: They can design things that way and they are very
- 13:09Speaker 7: expensive to do commissioned.
- 13:11Speaker 3: And you know, the thing is Cameron that really galls
- 13:14Speaker 3: me every time I hear one of these stories. You know,
- 13:16Speaker 3: the government says, oh, we're consulting with local communities and
- 13:20Speaker 3: we're talking to people and we're going to get the
- 13:22Speaker 3: best outcome. But it seems to me that the Environment
- 13:26Speaker 3: Minister Penny Sharp in New South Wales has actually zero
- 13:29Speaker 3: interest in real consultation. Is am I being unfair here?
- 13:35Speaker 7: I'll think you're being generous. I mean zero interests. Zero
- 13:38Speaker 7: interests would would be leaving us align. What happens is
- 13:42Speaker 7: pretty insulting. Really, it's that's a that's a five process.
- 13:45Speaker 7: So I mean, I'll give you two examples of what
- 13:48Speaker 7: happened with consultation. I mean, there are processes that are
- 13:52Speaker 7: put together that are supposed to protect us and that
- 13:54Speaker 7: we are asked to trust. Now rasonally, the community put
- 13:58Speaker 7: together the parliamentary but opposing the transmission of the New
- 14:01Speaker 7: England and for a town of three thousand people, we
- 14:04Speaker 7: were told good luck go and get twenty thousand signatures
- 14:07Speaker 7: and it's a big issue. And we got those twenty
- 14:09Speaker 7: thousand signatures and more and that debate that triggered that
- 14:12Speaker 7: parliamentary debate. Three hundred people from our region and other
- 14:16Speaker 7: regions and also from Victoria and many many people in
- 14:19Speaker 7: Sydney came to see that debate to see whether Labor
- 14:21Speaker 7: could defend their designs. Labour didn't even turn up, and
- 14:26Speaker 7: it was quite extraordinary. I mean, they must have known
- 14:27Speaker 7: that there would be a political cost an embarrassment to
- 14:30Speaker 7: not turning up, but I guess they figured that turning
- 14:33Speaker 7: up and not being able to defend that hopeless design
- 14:37Speaker 7: would carry more political embarrassment.
- 14:39Speaker 3: Cameron greg We're gonna have to leave it there. Thank
- 14:41Speaker 3: you so much for your time, Good luck with your campaign.
- 14:43Speaker 3: And I'm reliably informed that there's going to be more
- 14:47Speaker 3: about this story coming out in Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph. So
- 14:50Speaker 3: everybody out there was an interest in this, check that out. Now.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Let's move on to Victoria, where Premiere just sent to
- 14:56Speaker 3: Aled has been laying out the red carpet for the
- 14:58Speaker 3: Indian Prime Minister this week, but behind the scenes, allegations
- 15:03Speaker 3: of corruption are threatening to overshadow the lead up to
- 15:06Speaker 3: the election. Here to talk us through it, Shadow Industrial
- 15:09Speaker 3: Relations Minister Brad Rousewell, Brad, welcome to the program. Great
- 15:12Speaker 3: to have you here. Justint to Allen has been referred
- 15:16Speaker 3: to that Jimes. Happy Friday to you too. Possibly not
- 15:19Speaker 3: so happy a Friday for Jacinta Allen, who has been
- 15:22Speaker 3: referred to the state's anti corruption body over allegations that
- 15:26Speaker 3: she personally intervened to enable big build corruption when she
- 15:32Speaker 3: was a Transport Infrastructure minister. These allegations gonna be on
- 15:35Speaker 3: poor oversight. It suggests Premiere's own office was intervening to
- 15:39Speaker 3: pressure builders. Tell us about this.
- 15:40Speaker 6: This sounds shocking, Well, James Cina Allen has been either
- 15:46Speaker 6: premier or responsible for Victoria's big build for a very
- 15:51Speaker 6: long time. In Victoria, We've got an election coming up
- 15:53Speaker 6: in November. Justin Dearellen, over the last twelve years of
- 15:56Speaker 6: this Labor government has been responsible in one part or
- 16:00Speaker 6: another for Labour's big build. That puts her at the
- 16:04Speaker 6: center of the crime and corruption in our state. Something
- 16:09Speaker 6: that only a vote for the Liberals or Nationals in
- 16:12Speaker 6: November state election will deliver a Royal commission. That is
- 16:16Speaker 6: my clear message THECE Evening, James, if you're a Victorian
- 16:20Speaker 6: and you're listening to this, if you're a Victorian and
- 16:23Speaker 6: you are disturbed by the crime and corruption that has
- 16:26Speaker 6: been free for all under Cine Ellen over the last
- 16:30Speaker 6: twelve years, vote Liberal, Vote National at the November state
- 16:35Speaker 6: election for a royal commission.
- 16:37Speaker 2: It's as simple.
- 16:38Speaker 6: As that this premier will go to every length, any
- 16:42Speaker 6: extent to cover up crime and corruption because she knows
- 16:46Speaker 6: that if she opens up the option of a royal
- 16:50Speaker 6: commission here in Victoria, it will be a Pandora's box
- 16:54Speaker 6: of problems for her as premier. She's the premier that
- 16:58Speaker 6: has accepted, as part of the Labor Party Victorian branch
- 17:01Speaker 6: donations on behalf of from the CFMU four hundred thousand
- 17:06Speaker 6: dollars James, of donations from the CFMU to the Victorian
- 17:10Speaker 6: branch of the Australian Labor Party in this turm of
- 17:12Speaker 6: parliament alone, every single one of the elected Labor members
- 17:18Speaker 6: of Parliament in this state are stained and tainted by
- 17:22Speaker 6: corruption tied to the CFMEU. And you know, just Cinda
- 17:26Speaker 6: Allen's got this wrong. Victorians want a royal commission. They
- 17:30Speaker 6: want their taxpayer dollars to be respected, to be valued,
- 17:35Speaker 6: and you know, I dare say as we get closer
- 17:38Speaker 6: to November, victorians want to change because they're sick and
- 17:42Speaker 6: tired of the excuses from this premiere.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Well, it is shocking, and we have seen the reactions
- 17:47Speaker 3: that she's had when she's been asked about this corruption,
- 17:50Speaker 3: about putting a figure on it. Some people are seen
- 17:51Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars. But is it my understanding that she
- 17:55Speaker 3: hasn't even checked her old records to verify whether these
- 17:59Speaker 3: allegations are also I mean, this doesn't seem like credible leadership.
- 18:02Speaker 3: It seems more to me like she is helping to
- 18:05Speaker 3: bunk her down right out of the storm, hope to
- 18:07Speaker 3: get through it, and then people forget about it.
- 18:12Speaker 6: Look, I know through one Lens James, you're in a
- 18:15Speaker 6: better place in New South Wales and Victoria. We seem
- 18:17Speaker 6: to have a different standard down here.
- 18:19Speaker 8: You know, in New.
- 18:19Speaker 6: South Wales not that long ago there was a premier
- 18:21Speaker 6: whose career was ended because of a.
- 18:25Speaker 2: Bottle of plank.
- 18:27Speaker 6: And here you've got an allegation of a ministerial office
- 18:32Speaker 6: interference and pressure to get CFMU contractors lined up and
- 18:37Speaker 6: c IFMU connected workforce lined up for a government project
- 18:41Speaker 6: and the Premier can't even check her own records. The
- 18:44Speaker 6: standards are completely different. The standards are wrong, and Victorians
- 18:49Speaker 6: to serve so much better. Again, it's quite simple. If
- 18:52Speaker 6: you want a Royal commission to get to the bottom
- 18:54Speaker 6: of this, if you value integrity, if you value transparencyte
- 19:00Speaker 6: Liberal at November's election.
- 19:02Speaker 3: It's shocking what has happened in Victoria, and not just
- 19:05Speaker 3: with the crustion, but also with the crime. I want
- 19:07Speaker 3: to ask you about FP Officer Rowin Pake, who has
- 19:09Speaker 3: warned that the firebombing of Melbourne's businesses is only set
- 19:13Speaker 3: to continue unless governments tackle policies fueling tobacco and alcohol
- 19:19Speaker 3: black markets. Is there any prospect of that happening.
- 19:25Speaker 6: Well, we've had so many promises here in Victoria and
- 19:28Speaker 6: nothing's happened, you know. Front of mine for me, James,
- 19:31Speaker 6: is a local circumstance in my own community. Just a
- 19:33Speaker 6: couple of days ago, I spent about half an hour
- 19:36Speaker 6: on the phone to the proprietor of what was a
- 19:40Speaker 6: very successful cafe in Mentone here in Victoria. Some twelve
- 19:45Speaker 6: months on a couple of doors down from him, there
- 19:47Speaker 6: was a fire bombing in mentone and some twelve months
- 19:50Speaker 6: on there's been no works undertaken to his premises and
- 19:53Speaker 6: he still has uncertainty. You know, the insurance money's running out, James,
- 19:56Speaker 6: and he's now in a position where he's legitimately questioning
- 20:01Speaker 6: do I reopen my business do I not? And you know,
- 20:04Speaker 6: sometimes I think that after twelve years of being in government,
- 20:08Speaker 6: as the Australian Labor Party has been in Victoria, they
- 20:12Speaker 6: actually lose sight and lose track of what matters to
- 20:15Speaker 6: people on the ground. And for me, I have people
- 20:19Speaker 6: like d'vesh that cafe own a front of mine. He's
- 20:22Speaker 6: got uncertainty. He is now former almost former employees have
- 20:25Speaker 6: got uncertainty. And the institution and opportunity he created, not
- 20:30Speaker 6: just for locals in terms of jobs, but the community
- 20:33Speaker 6: that he created has been absolutely utterly destroyed because Labor
- 20:37Speaker 6: don't give us stuff. I mean, that's the bottom line.
- 20:40Speaker 6: We value community safety and that should be the first
- 20:45Speaker 6: priority of any government. That's why we've said we will
- 20:47Speaker 6: recruit three thousand new police, recruit two hundred additional PSOs.
- 20:51Speaker 6: If you break bail, you will face jail. There will
- 20:54Speaker 6: be a serious time for adult crime here. In Victoria
- 21:00Speaker 6: are serious about security and safety because that's what the
- 21:04Speaker 6: community deserves and that's what the community expects.
- 21:06Speaker 3: Well, Brad, I think you need those officers, but I
- 21:08Speaker 3: think you might need to do something about a few
- 21:10Speaker 3: of your magistrates as well. Brad Roswell, thank you so
- 21:13Speaker 3: much for your time this evening. Now stick around, we're
- 21:15Speaker 3: going to hit a quick break. But when we come back,
- 21:16Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has gone on a brutal attack against not
- 21:20Speaker 3: Labor but One Nation. Nauline Hassen has said, hey, I'm
- 21:25Speaker 3: not the enemy and is urging a united front on
- 21:29Speaker 3: the right to push out labor or on that. After
- 21:31Speaker 3: the break, welcome back to the program. James Morrow here
- 21:38Speaker 3: filling in for Steve Price. Now let's take a closer
- 21:40Speaker 3: look at the attack Angus Taylor is mounting on Pauline
- 21:43Speaker 3: Hanson and her One Nation party. Here's a bit of
- 21:46Speaker 3: him this morning.
- 21:48Speaker 2: It's got to be changed. That's going to deliver the
- 21:51Speaker 2: right outcomes for Australia, and that is not going and
- 21:55Speaker 2: spending a trillion dollars and driving up in flash and
- 21:58Speaker 2: driving up interest rates. And that's what One Nation's policies
- 22:02Speaker 2: would do. It's a one person show the policies are incoherent,
- 22:06Speaker 2: they don't add up. I will work with anyone to
- 22:08Speaker 2: get rid of this right and labor government, of course
- 22:10Speaker 2: I will. That's what we need to do. But what
- 22:12Speaker 2: I am saying is that one nation doesn't have the answers. Well.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Here to discuss this and a whole lot more is
- 22:20Speaker 3: our Friday Night regular and former Queensland premiere Campbell Newman. Campbell,
- 22:24Speaker 3: Welcome to the program. Pauline Hansen is still in London,
- 22:28Speaker 3: but I want to play a little bit of her here.
- 22:30Speaker 3: Responding to what Angus Taylor said this morning.
- 22:34Speaker 8: I'm very disappointed with this. You know, Angus, I'm not
- 22:37Speaker 8: your enemy. We both need to get rid of the
- 22:40Speaker 8: Labor the Greens government. That toxic government's done so much
- 22:43Speaker 8: damage to this country. Here can reflect back on your
- 22:47Speaker 8: Budget reply speech. You picked up and sent a lot
- 22:50Speaker 8: of one nation's policy. So I don't agree with you
- 22:53Speaker 8: having to go out me and what I stand for.
- 22:55Speaker 8: Let's work together, That's right. It keeps saying all the time.
- 22:58Speaker 8: The people of Australia are crying out for change. Listen
- 23:01Speaker 8: to the people, Angus and work with me. Stop denigrating
- 23:05Speaker 8: one nation and work together.
- 23:08Speaker 3: She's going to be a point here, hasn't you, Campbell.
- 23:10Speaker 3: I mean, it feels like Angus Taylor is tearing the
- 23:13Speaker 3: Liberal Party apart here on the one hand, saying, oh, yeah,
- 23:16Speaker 3: we want to get rid of labor, but they're attacking
- 23:19Speaker 3: a one nation party that shares an awful lot of
- 23:21Speaker 3: their policies.
- 23:24Speaker 9: James, I'm not sure this has been the right response
- 23:28Speaker 9: from Angus Taylor. Indeed, I've said that on this show
- 23:31Speaker 9: in the past few months. I think the only way
- 23:35Speaker 9: to deal with the threat that one Nation pose the
- 23:37Speaker 9: Liberal and National parties is to outcompete one nation and
- 23:42Speaker 9: get on the front foot with ongoing clear statements about
- 23:48Speaker 9: what the Liberal and National Party stand for. Well, that's
- 23:51Speaker 9: the only way to deal with it. I don't Yeah,
- 23:53Speaker 9: I don't think it was the right thing to attack
- 23:55Speaker 9: her an affront one way like this.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Well, it's just interesting, and I mean, I know social
- 23:59Speaker 3: media only captures so much of the audience, but everywhere
- 24:03Speaker 3: I have seen bits of this interview and other things
- 24:05Speaker 3: Angus Taylor has said, including his Sydney Institute speech yesterday,
- 24:10Speaker 3: He's just getting absolutely tailed up by Liberal Party sympathizers
- 24:14Speaker 3: who say, stop attacking one nation you're driving us to
- 24:17Speaker 3: one nation. Why aren't you fighting this horrific labor government
- 24:22Speaker 3: which is running us into socialism and penury.
- 24:28Speaker 9: Look if just another example on that front is to
- 24:31Speaker 9: look at the comments against this story on the Australian
- 24:36Speaker 9: Newspaper's website. And I'm afraid that Angus Taylor is getting
- 24:40Speaker 9: an absolute pizzling with people who, you know you would
- 24:44Speaker 9: be traditional coalition voters.
- 24:47Speaker 3: You know.
- 24:48Speaker 9: Again, the trick here, I think is to outcompete. There
- 24:52Speaker 9: are so many people who have gone to one nation.
- 24:54Speaker 9: I mean I left, Just to be upfront about this,
- 24:57Speaker 9: I left the Liberal National Party five years ago and
- 25:02Speaker 9: joined the Libertarian Party. So I'm not in the one
- 25:05Speaker 9: nation camp either, sure, but I just say I left
- 25:08Speaker 9: because I was so despondent, so dismayed about the things
- 25:12Speaker 9: that the Liberal National Party government had done during COVID.
- 25:17Speaker 9: I won't go through all that now, but yeah, I've
- 25:20Speaker 9: not seen in the last few years anything from the
- 25:22Speaker 9: Liberal National Parties who would make me really think that
- 25:26Speaker 9: they realized what they did wrong. That they haven't been
- 25:29Speaker 9: for small business and private enterprise and balance balanced budgets
- 25:33Speaker 9: and low tax and by the way, stopping the onslaught
- 25:37Speaker 9: of red tape in bureaucracy on business that has been
- 25:41Speaker 9: empowered by the Coalition, I'm afraid, and then followed on
- 25:45Speaker 9: by labor. Well, let's see a concerted attack on allows
- 25:50Speaker 9: e labor government.
- 25:52Speaker 3: No. And it just seems to me that I'm not
- 25:54Speaker 3: hearing anything from the Liberal Party about growing the pie economically.
- 25:58Speaker 3: They seem almost to be buying in to cam Well
- 26:00Speaker 3: Newman the labor rhetoric about oh, well, you know this
- 26:04Speaker 3: policy is going to cost the taxpayer, rather than saying
- 26:07Speaker 3: it's going to return money to the taxpayer.
- 26:11Speaker 9: Look, the fight on tax you know, well, it's pathetic.
- 26:17Speaker 9: They get sucked into the language of the left, you know,
- 26:21Speaker 9: sort of sort of sort of giving people back their
- 26:25Speaker 9: money is somehow a cost to government. It's our money
- 26:31Speaker 9: and they should be fighting. From a standpoint is that
- 26:34Speaker 9: the bureaucracy across this nation should be as small as possible.
- 26:38Speaker 9: And for example, one hundred thousand businesses small businesses across
- 26:43Speaker 9: this nation, primarily real estate agents, have as of the
- 26:47Speaker 9: first of July, had to adopt this absolutely crazy red
- 26:52Speaker 9: tape paper chase to identify people who they're doing business
- 26:58Speaker 9: with because of the Aiding Money DRM laws which have
- 27:01Speaker 9: been extended to them, to accounting firms and to lawyers.
- 27:05Speaker 9: And look, it's something that should never have happened. It's
- 27:09Speaker 9: a step too far. And by the way, the criminal
- 27:12Speaker 9: gangs will still be busy doing what they do quite
- 27:16Speaker 9: effectively despite this red tape being imposed on all these businesses.
- 27:20Speaker 9: So those are the things that the Liberal National Party
- 27:22Speaker 9: should be fighting on instead of rolling over or attacking
- 27:27Speaker 9: one nation.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Hey Campbell, I touched on this in mydriatorial at the
- 27:30Speaker 3: top of the show. But Anthony even easy has the
- 27:34Speaker 3: last twenty four hours announced a series of agreements struck
- 27:36Speaker 3: with the Indian Prime Minister Nourendra Modi, including this deal
- 27:40Speaker 3: to green lay billions of dollars worth of uranium exports
- 27:43Speaker 3: to India, which is great. I suppose your uranium minor,
- 27:48Speaker 3: but why is our uranium good enough for India? But
- 27:53Speaker 3: Campbell k newman not good enough for us?
- 27:56Speaker 9: Like it's extraordinary, it's like somehow which is a developing nation.
- 28:02Speaker 9: And you know, I have so much admiration for by
- 28:04Speaker 9: the way, the Indians that I haven't got enough time
- 28:08Speaker 9: this evening. So the way they're going ahead, that they're
- 28:11Speaker 9: building prosperity and trying to lift people out of poverty,
- 28:15Speaker 9: and they're doing it by ruthlessly going after energy security
- 28:22Speaker 9: and driving the cost of energy down. So they want
- 28:24Speaker 9: to have nuclear power. They will develop nuclear power, but
- 28:27Speaker 9: somehow the mantra from the elites in Australia is particularly
- 28:31Speaker 9: the left, is that we can't have it here, it'll
- 28:33Speaker 9: cost to marginal take too long. But then so that's
- 28:37Speaker 9: sort of I don't know how the Prime Minister can
- 28:40Speaker 9: can consider do this work. A lot of hoots part
- 28:42Speaker 9: of actually.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Make such an announcement.
- 28:44Speaker 9: But then, by the way, we've got the Liberal National
- 28:46Speaker 9: Party premier in this state who has not only been
- 28:49Speaker 9: against the nuclear power policies of so Peter Dutton when
- 28:52Speaker 9: he was load of the opposition, but Christa Fooley won't
- 28:55Speaker 9: even overturn Labor Party ban on uranium mining. So that
- 29:00Speaker 9: means the under the Prime Minister's policies, the Northern Territory
- 29:03Speaker 9: in South Australia will be benefiting from uranium mining, but
- 29:07Speaker 9: William Queens and will not. So I've got to be
- 29:11Speaker 9: fair the scene and handed out the brick bats to
- 29:13Speaker 9: both parties.
- 29:15Speaker 3: It's just it just figures belief Campbell Newman. We should
- 29:18Speaker 3: be so rich off of this stuff and have so
- 29:20Speaker 3: much cheap energy. It's so frustrating, Campbell Newman, But thank
- 29:24Speaker 3: you so much for your time. Great to chat as always,
- 29:26Speaker 3: we'll catch up soon. Now let's go over to London
- 29:29Speaker 3: where Nagel Farage led the news this week after the
- 29:32Speaker 3: dramatic political chess move that could make or break his
- 29:35Speaker 3: political career. Here to discuss it, Scott's regular Adrian Hayes. Adrian,
- 29:40Speaker 3: welcome to the program. What's the feeling on the ground there, Adrian?
- 29:45Speaker 3: With this news that reforms, Nagel Farage has decided to
- 29:49Speaker 3: go and have a by election in his own electorate.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Is this gonna work?
- 29:55Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, good question, James. Look, you know politics is
- 29:58Speaker 10: a device of business. The best of times, those who
- 30:01Speaker 10: detest Barrage and those who love him won't be changed.
- 30:03Speaker 10: It's those in the middle. There is some unease, there
- 30:06Speaker 10: is some unsettlement and people sitting on the fence whether
- 30:09Speaker 10: this was a right move. Look on the on the
- 30:11Speaker 10: basis he's been under a systematic attack by the establishment,
- 30:15Speaker 10: not just politicians we expect from, but from the media,
- 30:19Speaker 10: from the National Crime Agency, from banks, from the civil service.
- 30:23Speaker 10: He has to subject himself to his own security. There's
- 30:26Speaker 10: a timing suspicion what's this about? And of course a
- 30:30Speaker 10: media channel went round to his house and confront and
- 30:32Speaker 10: knocked on the door to meet his daughter, which got
- 30:34Speaker 10: him very angry. So there's people that that's where he
- 30:37Speaker 10: and he would say has broken no laws. On the
- 30:39Speaker 10: other hand, anger is never a great place to make rational, logical,
- 30:44Speaker 10: analytical decisions from some people say, well, look he's a
- 30:47Speaker 10: delaying tactic himself. It's a distraction and this may he
- 30:51Speaker 10: may have taken on more than he can chew. So
- 30:54Speaker 10: there's an unknown, unknown outcome on what's what's going to.
- 30:57Speaker 7: Happen on this?
- 30:58Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell me about what's happening here with the
- 31:01Speaker 3: other side of this competition, because the only competition in
- 31:05Speaker 3: Clacton seems to be as far as I can tell,
- 31:07Speaker 3: a bloke who's dressed up as a bin. It's a
- 31:10Speaker 3: bit this just you know, for the people who say, oh,
- 31:13Speaker 3: we've got to take democracy seriously, this really screams farce.
- 31:18Speaker 10: Yeah, you've got the actually you're certain the pictures of
- 31:20Speaker 10: the Macafielder by election where Andy Burnham, new Labor leader,
- 31:24Speaker 10: and Waiting came with a fox. So we've actually had
- 31:26Speaker 10: a few more. Come on, we've got count Binface real
- 31:29Speaker 10: name John Harvey, who's a comedian, and you've got a fox,
- 31:34Speaker 10: You've got monster raving, Looning Party, looning Party. Some people
- 31:38Speaker 10: say it's a rich democracy, that the UK is good
- 31:42Speaker 10: grace that others say it is a farce. You know,
- 31:44Speaker 10: it's hard because all the other parties, of mainstream parties
- 31:47Speaker 10: have taken back. They're not standing. So you know, pharaohs
- 31:50Speaker 10: did this to get on the front foot people versus
- 31:52Speaker 10: the establishment. Now the establishment the other parties have sort
- 31:55Speaker 10: of hit back. So again you could be rightfully thinking
- 31:59Speaker 10: that it does look a bit of a farce.
- 32:01Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Hey, let's just talk about Andy Burnham for a second,
- 32:04Speaker 3: the man who, you know, again, with the robust democracy
- 32:07Speaker 3: of the UK, has but to become Prime Minister without
- 32:09Speaker 3: a single vote cast for him on a national basis.
- 32:12Speaker 3: He's issued an apology over Gaza this week, which has
- 32:16Speaker 3: been called a reset moment for labor. But as they
- 32:20Speaker 3: seek to win back progressive voters, what is this all
- 32:24Speaker 3: about and how is it that Gaza has wound up
- 32:27Speaker 3: driving all politics on the left. Because whenever I see Gaza,
- 32:32Speaker 3: I think a lot of other lunacy comes in the
- 32:35Speaker 3: train behind it. Yeah.
- 32:37Speaker 10: Look, notwithstanding the actions in the Gaza strip, the actions
- 32:42Speaker 10: of Vista everything, this this move is about winning back
- 32:45Speaker 10: the progressive so called progressive voters who've deserted labor for
- 32:50Speaker 10: the Greens or anything about the Greens these days, your
- 32:52Speaker 10: party and the backbench MPs. But it's ironic that of
- 32:56Speaker 10: all the issues that the British people are so concerned about,
- 33:01Speaker 10: illegal immigration, the blurgeoning budget, welfare, the budget deficit, we've
- 33:06Speaker 10: got energy costs that he's gone with this statement. So
- 33:10Speaker 10: as I said, I think it's more to do politics
- 33:12Speaker 10: than anything substantial. And we await we talk about we
- 33:15Speaker 10: just spoke about face on Clacton, on sea farages.
- 33:18Speaker 1: By election.
- 33:19Speaker 10: You know, some people say, how can an MP who
- 33:22Speaker 10: was an MP a few weeks ago, who's been voted
- 33:24Speaker 10: by twenty five thousand voters now become prime minister in
- 33:28Speaker 10: a few weeks time. I mean that is something that
- 33:30Speaker 10: we used to laugh at in Italy, but we're sort of,
- 33:33Speaker 10: you know, another prime minister every sort of year, but
- 33:35Speaker 10: we're doing it ourselves. It doesn't look good on the
- 33:38Speaker 10: institutions of the British democratic system.
- 33:41Speaker 3: And when you mentioned anything with Green's Party or anything
- 33:44Speaker 3: but Green Tinge Now Party. A moment ago, one of
- 33:48Speaker 3: the things I was thinking about was those recent by
- 33:50Speaker 3: elections they had in the UK where those Green parties
- 33:53Speaker 3: seem to be dominated by this very Islamist sort of streak.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Is this one of the concerns that lives is fighting off,
- 34:01Speaker 3: this islamicization of British politics.
- 34:05Speaker 10: Yes, in a word, As I said before, they party
- 34:09Speaker 10: lost lots of the Greens who who moved from being
- 34:11Speaker 10: a part They moved long ago from being a part
- 34:14Speaker 10: of the environment to a party of Netza alone. But
- 34:16Speaker 10: even that they've abandoned for this, for Gaza, for radical progressive,
- 34:21Speaker 10: no trans riots and everything like this. So you're right,
- 34:24Speaker 10: you know, Labor Party has lost a lot of people.
- 34:27Speaker 10: The Green bubble is slightly bursting. When their leader, Zach Polanski,
- 34:30Speaker 10: he's been sort of brought down a little bit to reality.
- 34:34Speaker 10: But it'd be interesting, it'd be fascinating to see what's
- 34:36Speaker 10: going on, and I put this whole thing, what's going
- 34:38Speaker 10: on with Farretch just go back to the whole story.
- 34:41Speaker 10: Is there an election waiting? Is there this systematic attack
- 34:43Speaker 10: on him because he's going to call an early election.
- 34:46Speaker 10: At the very least, it's a distraction from the under
- 34:49Speaker 10: democratic way that he is becoming the leader.
- 34:51Speaker 1: Of the UK.
- 34:52Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for that, Adrian. Good to
- 34:55Speaker 3: chat and good luck with everything over there. I know,
- 34:57Speaker 3: I know it's a bit rocky at the well, so Adrian,
- 34:59Speaker 3: thanks for your time. Now we're gonna hit a quick
- 35:01Speaker 3: break here, but when we come back, this is a
- 35:03Speaker 3: fun bit here cartoons in the week with one of
- 35:06Speaker 3: the best in the business, the great Mark Knight. Well,
- 35:14Speaker 3: it's Friday night, so let's have a bit of fun
- 35:15Speaker 3: and jump straight into what has been a very busy
- 35:18Speaker 3: week of news. And who better to sum it up
- 35:20Speaker 3: than Harold's son, cartoonist Mark Knight. Mark, welcome to the show.
- 35:26Speaker 3: Let's talk about this one here a rock star welcome, James.
- 35:30Speaker 3: Great to have you. It's we had a rockstar welcome
- 35:32Speaker 3: for the Indian Prime minister. You've summed it up very nicely. Here.
- 35:36Speaker 3: Tell us about this one here.
- 35:40Speaker 2: Well, Larendra Modi came into Melbourne to catch up with
- 35:44Speaker 2: Elbow and do some deals on uranium. But I thought
- 35:47Speaker 2: the most interesting thing was this event at Marvel Stadium
- 35:51Speaker 2: and he sold it out and it was like a
- 35:53Speaker 2: Taylor Swift concert for the Indian diaspora of Melbourne, and
- 35:57Speaker 2: of course Albo was invited, as was our premier just
- 36:00Speaker 2: sent to Alan. But Australian politicians just couldn't pull off
- 36:05Speaker 2: an event like this. And I had Elbow standing on
- 36:09Speaker 2: stage there if you can see, and he's saying, oh, yeah,
- 36:11Speaker 2: I sell out Marvel Stadium all the time, as if yeah, yeah, No.
- 36:17Speaker 3: It's pretty interesting the way alban ez he's trying to
- 36:21Speaker 3: write a foreign leader's coattails here on his own home soil.
- 36:25Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty amusing. Also, it's pretty funny.
- 36:30Speaker 3: But I also want to do with this network failure
- 36:33Speaker 3: that Telstra had. I, like millions of other Australians, was
- 36:37Speaker 3: caught up in it, and I didn't have a great
- 36:40Speaker 3: morning I know other people had a far worse morning
- 36:42Speaker 3: as a result of this. Tell Us about this. I
- 36:44Speaker 3: love the punchline here.
- 36:48Speaker 2: It just shows you how dependent we are James on technology,
- 36:51Speaker 2: but the same I love to conflate two issues at
- 36:55Speaker 2: once because there's so much happening. I find I like
- 36:58Speaker 2: to bring two issues together. And on that day when
- 37:01Speaker 2: the network went down, Melbourne was actually voted by the
- 37:04Speaker 2: economist magazine of all places, Australia's most livable city. Now
- 37:09Speaker 2: we that live in Melbourne, we refer to it now
- 37:11Speaker 2: as Gotham City. The crime, the potholes, the debt. It
- 37:20Speaker 2: is like living in Gotham City. And so I had
- 37:23Speaker 2: the Premier League, just Center Allen holding up the announcement
- 37:27Speaker 2: and saying, I haven't had a single person call me
- 37:31Speaker 2: to disagree with this decision. And of course nobody was
- 37:35Speaker 2: getting calls that day.
- 37:36Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, And it is you are right.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I mean, I just I love what these outfits like
- 37:40Speaker 3: The Economist, which used to be a really respectable magazine,
- 37:44Speaker 3: come out with this nonsense. I see Melbourne is the
- 37:47Speaker 3: most liberal. I'm sorry, Mark, I loved Melbourne, but boy
- 37:49Speaker 3: they've had some problems. I also this one here, you've
- 37:53Speaker 3: put the Prime Minister in the doghouse. This was a
- 37:57Speaker 3: great take on that story that Alban Easy would love
- 38:01Speaker 3: to see the back of his.
- 38:03Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 38:03Speaker 3: I had a couple of whiskeys with the podcasters and
- 38:05Speaker 3: decided to mouth off about Kylievendoga walk us through this
- 38:09Speaker 3: one because this really bade me laugh out loud.
- 38:13Speaker 2: It seemed like a good idea at the time probably
- 38:15Speaker 2: for Albo get on Nova. You know, when you get
- 38:17Speaker 2: on FM radio stations, you can just talk crap and
- 38:20Speaker 2: have a bit of fun. And of course he's been
- 38:23Speaker 2: sort of leading to this, this shag marry or date game,
- 38:27Speaker 2: and quite foolishly he said that, well, yes, I would
- 38:30Speaker 2: like to shag Kylie. And in the caption of the
- 38:34Speaker 2: cartoon is Albo in the doghouse outside the lodge, And
- 38:39Speaker 2: of course Jody has thrown all his clothes over the balcony.
- 38:42Speaker 2: He's saying, of course, and he's in there with Toto,
- 38:44Speaker 2: poor little Turto's doghouse. And Albo was saying, So I'm
- 38:48Speaker 2: on this Nova program and this podcast, and from a
- 38:53Speaker 2: list of celebs, I'm asked, who would I shag, marry
- 38:56Speaker 2: or date? Well, I said Kylie, clearly. How was I
- 38:59Speaker 2: to know? But Jody listens to podcast.
- 39:03Speaker 3: Oh so good. I love the little character out of
- 39:06Speaker 3: the bottom of saying, so, who's mister unpopular now? Anyway? Oh,
- 39:10Speaker 3: Melbourne viewers would also be familiar with but I was
- 39:13Speaker 3: less so with.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Pam the bird.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Does not Pam the verb Pam the bird because I
- 39:20Speaker 3: don't live in Victoria. But I think it's a bit
- 39:23Speaker 3: of a hoot. Tell us about this.
- 39:26Speaker 2: We love Pam the Bird. You know, we are the
- 39:29Speaker 2: city of the arts and there is an infamous alleged
- 39:34Speaker 2: graffitist in Melbourne, Jack Gibson Burrell, who was I think
- 39:37Speaker 2: he's up on over two hundred chargers for graffiti and
- 39:40Speaker 2: other misdemeanors. But we all woke up the other morning
- 39:43Speaker 2: and they're on the huge pylons off the Balty Bridge.
- 39:47Speaker 2: Was a giant Pam the Bird spray painter and Jack
- 39:51Speaker 2: sitting atop it as happy as Larry, even though he's
- 39:55Speaker 2: on bail. Of course, yes, and so I drew the
- 39:57Speaker 2: car to what is he doing up there? Well, he's
- 40:00Speaker 2: victorious bayor Lord's the Bird the Bird.
- 40:03Speaker 3: In fact, he wouldn't be the only one who's been
- 40:06Speaker 3: doing that. But finally, Mark, we've had the sad news today.
- 40:09Speaker 3: Valet Darren hinch sad day for the Australian media was
- 40:13Speaker 3: the passing of the human headline. I suspect you probably
- 40:17Speaker 3: de picted him many times, but let's have a look
- 40:19Speaker 3: at this one from twenty eleven, which I thought is
- 40:22Speaker 3: one of these brilliant examples of the cartoonist arts that
- 40:27Speaker 3: says the whole situation without saying a word, give us
- 40:30Speaker 3: the context on this.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, James, Well, I you know, it's a sad
- 40:36Speaker 2: loss to lose Darren. He was one of the great
- 40:39Speaker 2: tabloid fighters in journalism and I dug this one out
- 40:44Speaker 2: from my files in twenty eleven when he had his
- 40:46Speaker 2: liver transplant. But at the same time he who's actually
- 40:50Speaker 2: the courts had done him for contempt of court for
- 40:55Speaker 2: revealing the names of sexual offenders on his radio program.
- 40:59Speaker 2: So I've got the stitches for the liver on his tummy,
- 41:02Speaker 2: but of course the court is actually stitching his mouth
- 41:05Speaker 2: shut at the same time. Now, Darren love this cartoon.
- 41:08Speaker 2: I did actually give him the original and we had
- 41:10Speaker 2: a good laugh about it. But yeah, it's a very
- 41:13Speaker 2: sad day for journalism in this country. Indeed.
- 41:16Speaker 3: Indeed, Darren Hinch rest in peace, Mark Night, Thank you
- 41:18Speaker 3: so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Great fun
- 41:20Speaker 3: to chat with you. Now stick around because after the
- 41:22Speaker 3: break we have some more trevious to the human headline
- 41:24Speaker 3: with our Friday night panel. That's next. You're not gonna
- 41:28Speaker 3: want to miss this, Okay, welcome back to the program.
- 41:34Speaker 3: James Morrow, sitting in here for Steve Price. Let's jump
- 41:37Speaker 3: into all the news of the week with our Friday
- 41:39Speaker 3: night panel, Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrown, the climate Criminal
- 41:44Speaker 3: Jemma Todgnedy from GP Communications. Welcome to you both, Hey, guys,
- 41:50Speaker 3: let's get the sad news out of the way first.
- 41:52Speaker 3: We did have the sad news of the passing of
- 41:54Speaker 3: veteran broadcaster Darren Hints. He passed away at eighty two
- 41:59Speaker 3: after a long battle with a whole lot of health
- 42:02Speaker 3: issues that have been fairly well documented. But Joe, I
- 42:05Speaker 3: want to ask you, first of all, one of the
- 42:07Speaker 3: things I discovered today that he was known for. He
- 42:10Speaker 3: came up with his own diet plan at one point,
- 42:13Speaker 3: and it was the soup and wine diet.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Off for a little bit here.
- 42:17Speaker 1: I'm actually on that diet. I just cut out the soup.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Just cut out of the soup, and I thought it
- 42:21Speaker 3: was quite inventive.
- 42:22Speaker 1: Very inventive. Yeah, And that's one of the things I
- 42:24Speaker 1: really like about Darren that he's always completely or was
- 42:27Speaker 1: always keeping people guessing. He was irrepressible. He got in
- 42:31Speaker 1: trouble once for having a bit of wine after he'd
- 42:34Speaker 1: been donated somebody else's live off kidneys and I was
- 42:40Speaker 1: on Darren's side for that. But I grew up in
- 42:44Speaker 1: Melbourne in the era where Darren was just absolute king.
- 42:48Speaker 1: His show Hinch was compulsory viewing on Channel ten, the
- 42:52Speaker 1: famous catchphrase shame, shame, shame. It had its own spin
- 42:56Speaker 1: offactic or spinoff hunch on Fast Forward.
- 43:00Speaker 2: That's right.
- 43:01Speaker 1: So I grew up with him just being an absolute titan.
- 43:05Speaker 1: And then obviously as I moved to Sydney and then
- 43:08Speaker 1: he became a Senate and I actually got to know
- 43:09Speaker 1: him a bit when he'd sort of come on Studio
- 43:12Speaker 1: ten and he's on social media a lot, and so
- 43:18Speaker 1: it's just really interesting to find out it was actually
- 43:20Speaker 1: much more three dimensional. And I think a lot of
- 43:22Speaker 1: people thought he was. Really it was nuanced. He wasn't
- 43:25Speaker 1: as right wing as everybody thought he was. He once
- 43:27Speaker 1: lamented that that that was hurting his re election.
- 43:30Speaker 3: So me and I got very offended. Jet, Well, were
- 43:34Speaker 3: your memories of Darren Hinch?
- 43:35Speaker 11: Well, I mean, like Joe, but I grew up in Perth,
- 43:37Speaker 11: but he was compulsory viewing. He was like the shame
- 43:40Speaker 11: shame shamee Bat's life. I'm Darren Hinch, but do you
- 43:42Speaker 11: know what. I never actually met him in person, but
- 43:45Speaker 11: we interacted quite a lot on you know, the cesspit
- 43:47Speaker 11: that is Twitter, and he was always kind and considered
- 43:51Speaker 11: and funny and nuanced. But what I liked about him
- 43:54Speaker 11: from a distance at least, was the old part of
- 43:57Speaker 11: my life. He was a journo's journo. You know, he
- 43:59Speaker 11: was a and of conviction in the role of a
- 44:02Speaker 11: journalist and his work around you know, sexual abuse and
- 44:06Speaker 11: sexual abuse crimes long before it was a done thing,
- 44:10Speaker 11: long before there were there were royal commissions and the like.
- 44:13Speaker 11: He was really ahead of the pack and really trailblazing
- 44:17Speaker 11: in bringing people to accounts and of course famously went
- 44:20Speaker 11: to jail for contempt of court. In fact, I think
- 44:22Speaker 11: PI Court took call it the worst case of contempted
- 44:24Speaker 11: had ever seen that a sun.
- 44:26Speaker 1: That a son anyway, that was just the biggest story, right, Yeah.
- 44:31Speaker 3: I remember this. Hey, I just want to talking about
- 44:33Speaker 3: a couple of other things, and Joe, you know, I
- 44:35Speaker 3: do want to roll up the baseball bat and give
- 44:38Speaker 3: you a little knock over this one, because you know,
- 44:40Speaker 3: we're in the middle of cost a living crisis here
- 44:43Speaker 3: and Labour's big plan now out of the labor conference
- 44:47Speaker 3: is to rev up its support for from welcomes to Country.
- 44:52Speaker 3: Joe Pauline hands.
- 44:55Speaker 1: I don't want to rerun the voice campaign and say, hey, guys,
- 44:58Speaker 1: this works so well last time, let's do it again.
- 45:00Speaker 1: This is obviously the most idiotic act of self harm
- 45:03Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I was on the late debate tonight
- 45:05Speaker 1: when the papers came through. You what now what that's
- 45:11Speaker 1: it was? It's absolutely insane. It's the left of the
- 45:14Speaker 1: Labor Party just putting forward idiotic stuff, not having any
- 45:18Speaker 1: idea of how to actually combat one nation. This will
- 45:20Speaker 1: of course make the threat far far worse and make
- 45:23Speaker 1: workers who are already in their majority supporting my nation
- 45:26Speaker 1: over labor think even more that labor has nothing to
- 45:29Speaker 1: offer them. It is the idiotic left of the party.
- 45:31Speaker 1: It is not government policy, however, it is what happens
- 45:34Speaker 1: in these labor conferences.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimma, you know, I keep hearing, you know, from
- 45:38Speaker 3: all these people on the left who have nothing better
- 45:40Speaker 3: to do, but gives the right advice. Oh no, don't
- 45:43Speaker 3: go for the rate, don't engage in culture wars. This
- 45:45Speaker 3: seems to me like labor engaging in a huge culture war.
- 45:51Speaker 11: But this is the labor government that we have unfortunately
- 45:53Speaker 11: landed with through our own idiocy as a nation. You know,
- 45:57Speaker 11: a government that says one thing and does another. The
- 46:00Speaker 11: hypocrisy of this government on a range of issues is
- 46:05Speaker 11: there for all of us to see. So it says
- 46:07Speaker 11: one thing. It says, for example, rents will go down
- 46:10Speaker 11: and will go up no longer than no more than
- 46:12Speaker 11: two dollars a week. And we know that rents have
- 46:13Speaker 11: gone up significantly more tens fifty bucks a week. The
- 46:17Speaker 11: government said we're going to bring down you know, energy
- 46:20Speaker 11: prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars, and I don't.
- 46:24Speaker 11: My point is that Albanzi says things like he says
- 46:27Speaker 11: things like, oh, that modeling is rock solid, and then
- 46:29Speaker 11: six months later, when it's all gone to manure, it's
- 46:32Speaker 11: not my modeling. The Voice loss not my loss. So
- 46:35Speaker 11: this is, this is, this is absolutely unsurprising. My advice
- 46:39Speaker 11: to mister Albanzi by all means, run the Voice campaign again.
- 46:42Speaker 11: It was a great idea. Do it again.
- 46:44Speaker 3: It was so much fun to do it again.
- 46:45Speaker 2: Do it again.
- 46:46Speaker 5: People ring out for it.
- 46:47Speaker 3: We loved our Voice campaign, didn't we People kind of
- 46:50Speaker 3: for hey, let's let's go to the Northern Territory, and
- 46:52Speaker 3: we know that Territorians are just a bit different than
- 46:56Speaker 3: the rest of us here, but even Territorians have been
- 46:58Speaker 3: left stunned after a man was captured on field swimming.
- 47:02Speaker 3: My god, in Crack Territory. Nobody tell Bob Catter you
- 47:06Speaker 3: retrieve his boat in the middle of the very river.
- 47:09Speaker 3: I mean, Joel, look, I can see we've all done
- 47:12Speaker 3: a couple of silly things. Are like, this is pretty silly.
- 47:16Speaker 1: That this I have done all Like Paul Kelly, I've
- 47:18Speaker 1: done all the dumb things except that I've even even
- 47:21Speaker 1: for my bachelor party. I even got nude skinny dipping.
- 47:25Speaker 1: I got thrown off nude into Sydney Harbor in the
- 47:28Speaker 1: middle of the night in woolm Maloo, where so I
- 47:33Speaker 1: wouldn't do that sober. It's fair to say, but this
- 47:36Speaker 1: is insane. It's not even a territory in doing it.
- 47:38Speaker 1: This is this sort of thing you would expect to
- 47:40Speaker 1: This is the problem. This is a Victorian goes and
- 47:44Speaker 1: does it. And the worst part was that, despite the
- 47:48Speaker 1: fact that he looked completely ill AT's in the water,
- 47:50Speaker 1: he struggled to get out of the water. He struggled
- 47:51Speaker 1: to get into his boat. He actually survived, which is
- 47:55Speaker 1: a huge slap in the face to Darwinism.
- 47:58Speaker 2: Well, then it's not natural.
- 48:00Speaker 1: Selection is not.
- 48:01Speaker 3: Working, particularly when Northern Territories capital is Darwin. You'd think
- 48:05Speaker 3: that it would have to do it very quickly. Got
- 48:07Speaker 3: twenty seconds to have a fancy I.
- 48:08Speaker 2: Dip here rock.
- 48:09Speaker 11: No, I don't. And I grew up in Perth where
- 48:11Speaker 11: shark sharks are a thing and you get taught from
- 48:14Speaker 11: a young age how to manage them. But and look,
- 48:16Speaker 11: there's another story about that which I'm not super proud of,
- 48:19Speaker 11: but I'm still with just a little bit of it. Well, listen,
- 48:21Speaker 11: I might have been on the beach with Caroline Russo
- 48:23Speaker 11: one day, saw the shark chop rop ahead and said
- 48:25Speaker 11: I'm gonna have a quick deep before they shut the beach.
- 48:28Speaker 1: Well, story, that's top of logic.
- 48:31Speaker 3: That is a great bit of logic. Now, look we're
- 48:33Speaker 3: gonna have to leave it there. So much fun to
- 48:34Speaker 3: chat with you both. Thank you so much, very happy
- 48:36Speaker 3: Friday with you all. Thank you Jebba Talking and Joe Hildebrand,
- 48:39Speaker 3: and thank you. That's the show for tonight. James McPherson
- 48:43Speaker 3: is in for Rowan Dean next, and guess what. I'll
- 48:46Speaker 3: be back a little later in the evening for the
- 48:48Speaker 3: US report, so i'll catch you then