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Trekcast 424: No Sleep Till Federation Space · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: There he is.
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  Speaker 3: That's a quick cut. Dan, are you there, I'm here,
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  Speaker 3: I'm here, I'm here, I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that. That's all right, I'll go This
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  Speaker 2: is trek ass think. Yeah, you're listening to the.
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  Speaker 4: Galaxy's Most Star Trek past.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dan.
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  Speaker 4: I'm one of the hosts. Sometimes there's another guy here.
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  Speaker 4: His name is Daniel. If the show is on, he's here.
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  Speaker 4: That's There's a third guy. Sometimes he's here. Sometimes it's not. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: his name is Scott.
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  Speaker 2: He might be here, yeahs struggling right now.
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  Speaker 3: A few minutes ago. He might be here again.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm uh mobile one today I have I have an event.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, so I'm going mobile.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have breakfast yet, so I mean you may
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  Speaker 4: or may not see me eat this banana live live on.
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  Speaker 3: Today and washing It would say that for the only mans,
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  Speaker 3: it's called only dance.
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  Speaker 5: It's me and you.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, only dance. That's right. Don't forget that d
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  Speaker 2: only dance. Yeah, not too much, man, they love the
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  Speaker 2: d Yes, we get straight to the d around their
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  Speaker 2: show every time we don't mess around all the time. Yes, uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a weird week, but good but good. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, so far they're good. We'll see what next
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  Speaker 2: week brings. I've got some stuff brewin so I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of excited about it. I'll tell you about it later.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, and then, uh, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well we're trying, we're trying. But yeah, man, how you've been.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a little while. Uh, you know, things
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  Speaker 3: are good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just you know, podcast is on the weekend
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes that just there's other stuff that comes up.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Oh, look who's up?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, there he is.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, apparently he got the dress code memo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I did not well, Fellow and Blue. That's uh
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  Speaker 2: that's Michigan colors, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, sure go blue?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly what.
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  Speaker 2: Tap dance around that?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Are we all?
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  Speaker 2: Are we all here allegedly?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, appreciate if you're not here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm not here. No, no, no, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Okay, yeah we can hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we're allegedly doing a show.
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  Speaker 1: It's great, all right, All right, I'm assuming you already
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  Speaker 1: did the intro then, yes, yeah, okay, well we're just
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  Speaker 1: sitting I had I had what all planned out? Too? Well?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no for it? Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Let all live from studios in Idaho, Michigan, and New York.
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  Speaker 1: This is Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Today on the show, we are going to review the
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  Speaker 1: final installment of the Calvy Universe Star Trek Beyond. Plus
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  Speaker 1: we've got Star Trek News and your listener feedback. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Scott Boucher's with Daniel Reyes and now just back from Riza.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a four guy in your pocket? Or you're
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  Speaker 1: just happy to see us? Dad Lobardo? Nice? Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: like it.
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  Speaker 2: I like that INJURYCT curtain.
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  Speaker 3: We need a curtain for me to come out from behind.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we do, Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know we should be driving with a curtain.
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  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be driving doing a podcast either. This is
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  Speaker 3: where we are.
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  Speaker 1: This is where we are. That's fine, that's fine. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think it's a good thing you're on the show, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: because people are gonna start thinking that you joined Chad
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  Speaker 1: in in my basement.
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  Speaker 3: So I have to admit I did get a couple
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  Speaker 3: of messages.
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  Speaker 6: Oh hey, we're just looking for proof of life right
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  Speaker 6: from listeners. So oh no, that's great that I'm back.
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  Speaker 2: That Scott hasn't taken you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, to be honest, I think i'd put
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  Speaker 3: up a pretty good fight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you were too, that I think. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think i'd want to mess with
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  Speaker 1: Dad very he does cling on martial arts.
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  Speaker 3: So that's true.
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  Speaker 2: That is true, sense and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, what do we do it here? What's going on? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I should get into the Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we have that too, Yeah, we have news.
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  Speaker 2: We've got we've got a topic. It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's Star Trek News.
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  Speaker 2: All rightmovie dot com and I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: guys saw the big announcement earlier this week, when Marvel
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  Speaker 2: had the whole internet watching chairs for several hours, but
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  Speaker 2: it was announced the a lot of the cast for
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  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday, and apparently allegedly more will be revealed later.
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  Speaker 2: This is just what they've done for now, but several
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek alums will be in the cast, so it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of exciting. We've got Rebecca Remain will be returning
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  Speaker 2: in his Mystique. Patrick Stewart will be returning as Professor Xavier.
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  Speaker 2: Well we say that, we don't they're coming back for sure.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know for sure that they're playing those characters,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, come on right right, yeah, Kelsey Grammars
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  Speaker 2: will be returning as well Beast and then Chris Hems
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  Speaker 2: are a store. So that's your four star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: Alarms and this is all for doomsday, right, this is
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  Speaker 1: all for doomsday? Yes, okay, all right?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so they had this big announcement where they
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  Speaker 2: had chairs in every I think what a half hour
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  Speaker 2: or so they we lost Dan. Yeah, we would shift
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  Speaker 2: to a new chair and a new person. So because
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  Speaker 2: of that though, I think we can now make our
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  Speaker 2: special announcement. I think it's time. So we would like
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  Speaker 2: to announce also, there.
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  Speaker 1: We go Trek Cast, we are gonna be there.
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  Speaker 2: We will be returning in Avengers Doomsday. Dan, I'm making
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  Speaker 2: the big announcement that we will be an Avengers Doomsday. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so there's our chair. Oh we lost Dan again? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the moreban one maybe uh oh, there he is, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's back. Okay, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I was making titans turn sometimes right, communication chips.
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  Speaker 2: Shirt, Yeah, make their chairs all over the place. It
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  Speaker 2: was pretty funny.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So so so trek Cast is gonna be in uh
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  Speaker 1: in Doomsday. So this just turned from an epic movie
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  Speaker 1: to a giant cluster. Right, that's right, that's right, which
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  Speaker 1: is what I think Doomsday is gonna be. It's either
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  Speaker 1: gonna be like epic or just a giant cluster.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna start like this show. Are we doing a movie? Now?
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Right? Exactly? Yeah, I'm excited. I'll watch it. I will
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  Speaker 1: watch it. So all the.
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  Speaker 3: All the that are coming back. You think we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: get everybody? You think we're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Get like.
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  Speaker 2: There there's been a few that have been suspiciously absent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get a lot of them. I think
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen is we're gonna get the rest of
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  Speaker 1: them too, except for like you know three and then
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  Speaker 1: the whole movie. You're gonna be like, hey, where's you
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  Speaker 1: know Spider Man? Or where is so and so?
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  Speaker 2: Where's don Jeetle?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Where don che?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe maybe yes, this Spider Man? You want to
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  Speaker 2: see who.
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  Speaker 3: Nicholas Hammond. You know who Nicholas Hammond is? No, oh
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: my god. You obviously never watched the live action O
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  Speaker 3: seventies Spider Man.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't know his name.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well I was just thrown out a deep cut.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I know, yeah, that was very deep cut.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, you're a nerd. It's okay, it's right.
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  Speaker 2: And then uh vision they should have.
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  Speaker 3: They should have like like C g I, Bill Bixby,
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  Speaker 3: they should have the uh like all.
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  Speaker 4: Those nineteen seventies TV movie Marvel characters Captain America like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we're the googy looking forward the unreleased
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic Four.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, them put them all in there, do it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just just like the Flash? Did I love that?
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  Speaker 2: Right now? All of the uh, you know, the Insiders
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  Speaker 2: or just making their wild theories, like there's one that
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  Speaker 2: says that they're gonna bring in animated characters so you'll
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  Speaker 2: see like the animated X Men, the animated Spider Man
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  Speaker 2: from the nineties, that he'll pop up in either Secret
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  Speaker 2: Wars or Doomsday. Like that's not happening. They're not gonna Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: all right, Well, our next news story comes to us
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  Speaker 2: from Collider also kind of sharing along with the whole
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  Speaker 2: Marble thing. And they did an interview recently with Scott's
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  Speaker 2: favorite actor. Yeah, and they asked him a little bit
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  Speaker 2: about Starfleet Academy. Hold on a minute, Yeah, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: Does like, Oh, I think he made a great Rhino.
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  Speaker 2: He's the best Rhino.
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  Speaker 1: Is the best live aack rhino. We've ever had.
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  Speaker 3: Two?
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  Speaker 2: There are two. He's the best one.
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  Speaker 1: Who is the other one?
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  Speaker 2: The other one was in Craven.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's why I haven't seen him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Haven't seen that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's two rhinos.
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  Speaker 1: Now, because I've seen every Marvel property except for Creave.
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  Speaker 2: But same, we could we could have Rhino no way home.
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  Speaker 1: That is the right. I even saw what was that
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  Speaker 1: Spider Man A Jason female movie that came out last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I even saw that in the theater.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the show.
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  Speaker 1: We reviewed it. Yeah, saw at the theater. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen haven't seen the Craven.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not craving the Craven.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely Yeah. Okay, what's he do? What's he saying?
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  Speaker 1: What's he doing? What cares?
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  Speaker 2: Well? He's talking about being in Starfleet Academy. He says
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  Speaker 2: that he takes great pleasure in playing the villain. He
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  Speaker 2: really likes it, and uh, he's just relishing being the
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  Speaker 2: bad guy. So huh oh, no, are we losing Dan?
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  Speaker 1: What's that?
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  Speaker 4: Dan?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I'm here?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you say?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say anything?
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, good, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So Pulvin Jimoni loves playing the bad guy in Starfleet Academy.
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  Speaker 2: They also asked him how this came to be, how
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  Speaker 2: he he got to be in Star Trek, and he
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  Speaker 2: said that, you know, he was asked what kind of
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  Speaker 2: things you want to do, and he says, quote, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I love Star Trek, and uh, you know, he just
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  Speaker 2: kind of put it out there and eventually he got
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  Speaker 2: back to the right people and they had talks.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's gonna be in Starfleet Academy.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's how it used to be.
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  Speaker 4: All Sorvino was on Team B because he liked Star
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  Speaker 4: Trek and he told his agent, call some people, get
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  Speaker 4: me on Star Trek.
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  Speaker 3: I want to be on that show.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks wanted to be in Star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine Tom Hanks wanted to be in Star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: Tom Hanks would be in Star Trek.
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  Speaker 2: There's that one character in TNG that was written for
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  Speaker 2: Robin Williams and then they couldn't get him for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: like it was a scheduling conflict thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like.
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  Speaker 2: I forget the name of the character, but like if
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  Speaker 2: you watch the episode, you can totally tell, like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was supposed to be Robin Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, sounds like maybe like the most toys ish.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of thing, or yeah, maybe the chat will we'll
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  Speaker 2: let us know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking.
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  Speaker 3: The guy, the time traveler, guy who stole.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: The time machine, oh Williams to me, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, curling rescue. That guy.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember him from Honey the Kids. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he was the neighbor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's that guy. That the guy that from Honey
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  Speaker 2: I Drink the Kids. Yeah, I found the picture of
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  Speaker 2: the guy. Let's see. Okay whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was doing some he was doing some heavy
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  Speaker 1: flirting with doctor Crusher. Yeah this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, that was supposed to be Robin Williams. So okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, and then our last news story comes to
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  Speaker 2: us from news Love how to bring that up? So
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: we're learning a little bit more about Starfleet Academy, So
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's up next instead of Strange the Worlds. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know for sure because they haven't announced it.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 2: In Newsweek they are saying that Starfleet Academy got a
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  Speaker 2: pretty strange comparison. This is coming from an editor who
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  Speaker 2: has been working on Starfleet Academy editing the shows, and
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  Speaker 2: he has compared it to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, that
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  Speaker 2: it's got some of that comedy in it. He says,
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  Speaker 2: it's actually really really funny. He says the parts of
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  Speaker 2: the kids are pretty funny as well, pretty sarcastic tone,
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  Speaker 2: and he compared it a lot to Buffy. This guy
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  Speaker 2: also did say in the interview, which I thought was
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  Speaker 2: kind of funny. He says, the one thing that's missing
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  Speaker 2: from Star Trek is the fact that you can't put
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  Speaker 2: contemporary music into it it because it doesn't fit the
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  Speaker 2: show right. But if you could drop he says this
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  Speaker 2: in the art let me let me find the Star
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  Speaker 2: Trek beyond. Yeah, let me find the quote because it's hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, Uh, my one issue with Star Trek is
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  Speaker 2: that it's always takes place so far in the future.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have a conventional or contemporary music. You can't
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  Speaker 2: put a kick ass hip hop or K pop or
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  Speaker 2: whatever it is. It just doesn't belong. Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: There's that, right. Okay. You know, I've never seen Buffy
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  Speaker 1: the Vampire Vampire Slayer. I probably saw the original movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I never saw the series. But the person who
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: created Buffy the Vampire Slayer the series also created uh,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Firefly and the Avengers. And the Avengers not jos Joss Whedon. Now,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: if it has a Firefly tone in any way, shape
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  Speaker 1: or form, I'm down.
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  Speaker 2: If it's got that kind of he does, so, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's similar to that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So if he does that kind of the showrunners
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  Speaker 1: do that kind of tone, then yeah, okay, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: watch it. I mean I'm gonna watch it, right, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna even if it's bad, I'm still gonna watch it.
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  Speaker 2: Dance on the fence about watching it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it. For this show, that's right. For
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: this podcast, it's right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Imagine people have the same attitude about this podcast, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it even if it's bad, I'm still
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  Speaker 1: gonna listen and we thank you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's Oh, there's also another news story
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  Speaker 2: going around. It's not really a new story. It's just
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: a rumor. But uh, there are people straying that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Paramount is gonna shift away from Woke in order to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: get the the merger approved with sky Dance.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So wait, I thought we were going away from sky Dance.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. Somebody else offered him like four billion dollar
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  Speaker 1: there's more.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody else did, and there's a whole lawsuit to
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: prove that they really have the money. That's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: It's just people are making up rumors at this point.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're saying that, hey, so they're gonna they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: shift away from these things that star trek Uh. Stranger
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  Speaker 2: Worlds is currently being reshot to remove all all those elements.
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  Speaker 1: Out of it. So but they're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're shooting season four right now, like it's right. And
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: then in the in the in the rumor it's that
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Alex Kirtzman will be removed by Christmas time in order
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: to align themselves with removing those kinds of ideologies out
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you're when you're announcing that you're gonna
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: shi cant somebody, Yeah, you don't announce that you're gonna
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: shifcant somebody eight months from.
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  Speaker 2: Now exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Get I don't necessarily disagree with getting rid of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Alex Kirksman.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, I know a munch people.
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  Speaker 4: You don't call a guy and you say, listen, eight
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  Speaker 4: months from now, the third Tuesday in December, you're at.
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  Speaker 2: It here, that's right, that's right.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: But from now until then we expect your best work.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You're not going to ruin this franchise, are you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you guys see that rumor laying around,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: massive drain of salt, it's probably not happening. I mean,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: look at just it's ridiculous how it falls apart the minute,
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  Speaker 2: any logic to it. So I just thought I should
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: mention that because people are spreading that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, but so who owns Paramount again? Now right?
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Paramount owns themselves for now?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: For now? Did we ever put our bid in? Did
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you check our coffee account? Do we ever put our
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: bid in for Paramount?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I have not yet, yeah, because I don't want to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: just you know, throw it in out, you know, surprise.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, make our strongest, the strongest bit.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That's right here.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You gotta pick your time, gotcha. I'm gonna mention.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna mention sky Dance again in a few minutes,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna wait until we start the main topic.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, let's get let's get to the main topic.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Finn will now comment.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: The final of the Kelvin films, at least the final
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: for now. That's right, Star Trek Beyond, Star Trek Beyond.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: That's right. Whether or not we get a fourth one,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: who's to say.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: So, I have seen this movie.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you how many times I've seen this. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: have seen this movie one point four times.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Oh so you watched half of it yesterday.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I watched almost half of it. I watched this movie.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Once when it came out, what was yeah, ago, nine
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: years ago whatever, Yeah, years ago. And I tried to
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: watch it again yesterday.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just I'm sorry.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I couldn't get I couldn't get through it. It just
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: did not hold my my interest. And yeah, so halfway
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: through the review I might bow out.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, but that might because your mobile too.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: But one, uh, one of the things that that struck me.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: You know, you watch a movie right at the beginning
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: of the movie that the theme starts, and if it's
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: a twentieth century Fox movie, you'll see the twentieth centric
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Fox logo.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: And then in association with Lucasfilm.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And you see Lucas Film.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Look, okay, so this movie started last night. Yeah, and
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: those title cards they.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Were like fifteen yeah of films and yeah, yeah studio.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: So there was Paramount, Ali Baba, Strange Robot, Sun Dance
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and that's that's all I can remember. Yeah, sorry, sky Dance.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be Strange Dance by the time we're
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: over exactly.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like those things where you see, like, oh,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Beyonce had a hit song. You look at the producers
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: and there's like seventeen on the song. There.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: There's a common trick in filmmaking where you create a
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: film company specifically for that one movie. And that's why
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: like you'll see like in association with like Paramount and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Fox New and Fox Studios and you know, Trevor's Film
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Studio or whatever it is, right, and then the idea is,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: if it's a bomb, then you put all the losses
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: onto that newly made corporation and just write it off there.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, for the taxes. Yeah.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's why they do that.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well it's dumb, yeah, and I don't like it,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this movie came out in twenty sixteen, and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: it was directed by Justin Lynn from The Fast and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the Furious, which was kind of interesting.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Justin lindsay. He's a big Star Trek fan, right
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: as far as we know. So yeah, I watched, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: watched most of the special features. I watched the movie
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: last night, and I watched most of the special features. So,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: you know, they they explained why JJ Abrams wanted to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: remove himself as director. They wanted, you know, to get
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a bit different flavor for this movie, so they brought
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: in Justin Lynn, and they brought in Simon peg Co
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: wrote the movie right line.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: So I read some reviews. I read the Roger Eber
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: review about it, and basically he said that it felt
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: like a Giant Episode in the best possible way, which
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: kind of I mean, it does feel like a giant episode.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The rot Tomatoes score not even for critics and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: regular people. Eighty six percent for critics, eighty percent for fans,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: so they're in line, roughly.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I like the movie, Yeah, Yeah, I like the movie.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Uh I you know, I I I remember watching it
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: in the theaters. I remember, you know, I've seen it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: not as many times as I've seen the two thousand
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: and nine Star Trek, right, but I definitely enjoyed it
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: more than the twenty twelve Star Trek to the Search
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: for Regurgitation of Spock and Kirk and all that. So
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I I thought this was a fitting end of a trilogy,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and it was really a fitting end for their story. Yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: which is why every time we've always brought up Star
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Trek or Star Trek or Star Trekt br, I've always
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: been like, no, we don't need it. You know, we
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: don't need you know, we don't need the pulp fiction
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to come in and direct Star Trek boor we don't
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Quentin Tarantino, We don't need any of that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I thought that the Calvin Timeline story has been done.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Let's move on.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like a good ender. The way
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the way it ends, we should probably get a little
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: bit into the the story. So basically, it starts out
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: they are helping negotiate a piece treaty between two different factions,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: two different species, and Kirk goes to hand one of
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: the groups like a gift, and it ends up that
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: they don't want it. They are suspicious of it. The
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: faction I forget their names, and so because they don't
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: want it, it becomes a whole big problem, and so
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: they start attacking Kirk. It ends up the guys are
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: just very tiny, but still there's a lot of them,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and uh, Kirk is able to escape. They're adorable and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they don't wear pants.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: One of them a member of Starfleet. Yes, one of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: their species is a member of Starfleet.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: They're about the size of a medium sized dog.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: They, you know, they they take that little device, a
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: little what was supposed to be a gift, and Kirk
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: tells spot, hey, just cataloged this and put it away.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: We don't we don't need it after all, and it
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be. They say in the beginning, I.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: Think it's exact words, were catalog this pilot under him
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: for mcguffin.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, yes, yeah, Jesus even says the
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: mcguffin device, Yes, yes, uh. They even say in the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: beginning it's part of an old weapon. And so there
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And then from there we go visit the was it
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the Yorktown Station, yes, yeah, which is described as a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: snow globe in space or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and the.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Crew goes on surely I think Sulu meets up with
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: his brother and his niece and go off, have bunch
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: together and.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah yeah yeah, and everybody sees their their loved
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: ones except for Kirk, and and Kirk is basically going
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: uh is going there not to quit, but he wants
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to get a promotion because he's done with traveling in space.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: He wants a dust job.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: He's just tired of it, right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So okay, and he applies for it, and it sounds
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: like he might be getting it, but you know, they
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: they the admiral or whoever it is that he's talking to, says,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: you know, I think about this before you do it, Admiral.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I think her name was Admirl Camel nonfiltered.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I just remember her from from twenty four.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: She was in that show twenty four as well.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she was also she's been in
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of sci fi things, but yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then from there we also get when
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that Spock is looking to get away from Starfleet as well.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: He gets worried that that original recipe Spock is dead,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and so he wants to go and be with the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: other Vulcans.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And yes, it wants to make little Spock babies.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Little Spock babies. He feels like that's that's the logical
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: thing to do. And so him and Kirk are in
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the turbo lift together. They're they're preparing for you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: now that the the shore leaves about wrapping up, they're
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: gonna go back out again because they're on the five
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: year mission just to explore and and so from there
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: they both say, hey, I need to tell you something,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: but we'll do it later. And then we get a
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a all important emergency alert and somebody is approaching the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yorktown station and she claims to be in danger and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: they help her out and there's a big fight and
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: they helped this lady and it ends up it is
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a trap. They go they go with this this I
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: don't know what her name was. I never caught the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: character's name, but uh, they go with her back to
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the s Nebula, where she says her crew is stranded,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: she needs some help and that that's when the Enterprise
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: is attacked.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Klara, Clara, Okay.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: So they are attacked. They call them bees like these
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the swarm of like fighter plane jets what I don't know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Ships. Yeah, they're old mining ships.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, they really don't like miners in this series,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: do they?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: No, not at all?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so uh so Yeah, so they're attacked and
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: it ends up that eed you Soba is very I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: agree with with Starfleet?
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, very much, so, very much so.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: And so it's I forgot he's in this. I didn't
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: get that far.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: In all the makeup, but that's him. Which is it me?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Or did they look just like the krill from the Orville?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: That? Yeah, that was meant should actually and I on
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: IMDb and a few people mentioned that online. Is that?
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah they look that's hat. That has to be where
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: they got the crow from. Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: So from there they're attacked. The Enterprise is basically destroyed.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: It crash lands on a planet, but in pieces, so
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the crew is scattered. At this point, we have very
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: much an Empire strikes back, where we have little groups
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and each group has a certain directive that they need
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to do before they all gather back together for the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: big fight. We've got Bones and Spock together, We've got
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Scotty and our new character Jayla are working together. We
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: were Eventually they meet up with Kirk Kirk and uh
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: check off Aur together and then the rest of the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: crew has been kidnapped in prisoned. So you've got Laura
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and Loo kidnapped and uh so they need to save them.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: From there, we we find out that there is an
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: old Federation ship, the Franklin, has crash landed on this
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: planet years earlier. It had been a ship that had
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: been missing for quite some time. And uh, it ends
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: up Jayla is living in the ship. That's how she
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: knows English and is able to communicate with the other
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Federation officers. And she's using like a network of of
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: holograms or what I forget what they called it. They
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: didn't say it was holograms, but they had a different
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: name for it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was Uh, I forgot what it was called too,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: but it was like, yeah, yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's holograms though. And uh So from there they go
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: fight the new bad guy Eater Selba, and uh they're
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: able to take the old ship and go back to
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the York Town because the Swarm is going to attack,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and they have now the device, the Ancient Weapon, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: it ends up the Ancient Weapon is like just a
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: really angry cloud.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's uh, it's the dark thing from thor Dark World. Yeah,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it's the Ether. Yeah, yeah, it's one of it's angry
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: if Infinity Stone.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's angry Infinity Stone. And so the York Down
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: is gonna it's gonna be destroyed by the Infinity Stone.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Kirk's got to stop him.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: And so he goes and FTEs in an air duct,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: which that's what that is.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It's a giant, giant, giant clear air duct. They're either
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: going to die by the ether. They're going to die
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: by the air duct. Fans, that's right, because that's how
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: space stations work.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: That's how it works. And uh and he wins, Kirk wins.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: They stop.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: And and there we go.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: We're all happy. They do this big thing at the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: end where the crew is kind of like celebrating that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they won. They're they're saying goodbye to those who lost
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: their lives in in in the battle. So they're saying
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: goodbye to old friends, which is kind of poignant because
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: we have antony Elschen there, Yes, and so that sing
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that scene rings a little bit different now in hindsight.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, it was. Actually they did a little bit
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: of an edit on that scene before it was released,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: where you have a you have a shot of Kirk
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: kind of raising his glass and they kind of redid
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: it so that they panned back over to the group
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and center on frame was check off.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: So did they mentioned that in the behind the scenes or.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's something I think it's something I read. Yeah, they
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: did mention it behind the scenes. It's online too, so
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and then at the credits, uh, they talk about in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: memory of Leonard Nimoy and then for anton.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, because he passed away just before this
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: was released.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, leonardymore passed away before it was made, and Antonio
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Elsin passed away just before we released.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that was basically the movie.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go over a couple of things. Uh Dan
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: mentioned early that Sulu was with his uh his brother,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: which he knows damn well that uh see online. They
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: talk about this in the in the special features, they
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: talk about this, and there's a lot of controversy around this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: So let's let's dive into this subject. A little bit
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: in the in the film, they decided to make Sulu
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a gay character. Yeah, they they talked about it in
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the special features and they they just wanted to, you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: they just wanted to make one of the main characters gay.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: They didn't want that fact to be part of the storyline.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: They just wanted it to be there, just just a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: thing that happens, and it has nothing to do with
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: like the character, you know, or the storyline itself.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: And interesting to a tribute for.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the interesting thing.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So I did a little research. It turns out that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: George de Kay wasn't for them. He didn't agree with
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it because you know, George de Kay is gay, uh
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: and they thought it would be a cool tribute to him.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: He didn't. He wasn't part of it. He didn't like
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it because he said the character is not gay, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and they showed him the original series. He was very
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: much about the ladies, and he said he didn't want
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: He didn't think they should have taken it in this
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: direction for Sulu. But we do see that the the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: girl that that they have a lot of people are
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: speculating that's Demora from Star Trek Generations. The helmsman of
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the Enterprise b and you know, and that track. So
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I understand why they did.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand too. The thing I read said too
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: that basically they shot it and it was so far
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: into editing, like it was about to be released, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: so they let George de k know what was going
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to happen, and he's like, yeah, I know. And at
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: that point it's too late because they already shot.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It right right, and there was you know, there's there's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: really nothing. They embrace the family, and so I guess
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: your head cannon can be whatever it is. I mean,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I certainly don't care what the sexual orientation of any
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: of these characters are. I would like the storyline to know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you miss it kind of thing, too, right. I'd like consistency, Yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly don't care what. You know, if
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: they made Kirk kay all of a sudden that I'd
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: have an issue with that. Not because I have an
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: issue with Kirk being gay. I have an issue with
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the past fifty sixty years of him, you know, Mac
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: and on some green alien that's right, Yeah, whatever, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: just want story consistency. I don't care about the rest,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: none of it. Matters to me, just except for a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: story consistency.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Enterprise being gone that was a big, a big
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: one too. In the third movie, we lose the Enterprise
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: NCC one seven oh one, No bloody A, B, C
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: or D right, right. What do you guys think of
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the destruction sequence sequence? It was very reminiscent of Generations.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it got torn to shreds man. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Thought it was cool.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: When they said go for the throat, why didn't.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: They have Why didn't they have shields? Was the situation.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Their plot armor? Uh disintegrated? Ye, got it, you're right, thanks, right, Yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: when Spock says, we are not equipped for this manner
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: of engagement, Oh so, why doesn't all the enemies of
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the Federation equip themselves for that manner of engaging?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: You know, if tiny little ships will do it. Yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: those tiny little ships should have had they did it.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: There was one throwaway line where they said the shield
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: frequencies are having no effect, but they didn't explain why.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing I get.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I get annoyed when they establish certain things and then
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: they ignore it. One of the first things, one of
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: the first things that the attack did was destroy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: The deflector array, right right, and then they wanted to
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: go to Wark.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Okay, whether they want to go to Warp, whether they
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: want to go to Impulse, it doesn't matter. The whole
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: idea that the deflector array is that it moves space
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: debris out of the way, get torn to shreds as
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: it moves.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, they would have to get us out of here.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, they can't get you out of here.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: They just destroyed the deflector array.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I I think they mentioned very early on that there's
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: like a signal and it's jamming their communication frequencies and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: messing with the with the shields.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: All they did talk about, okay, mess with the shield too.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: So I think that's what it is.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Only one, only one man would give me the raspberry.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: That's right, they got jammed.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, is it just common knowledge? I mean their
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: their shields are operating at a frequency of two five
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: seven point four. I mean seven was the shield frequency
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that the Enterprise D was operating at when they were destroyed,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: when it was destroyed by the Klingon Bird of Prey.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Well would know, right because he was part of ser
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Fleet and ends up Yeah, which that means they had
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: the same shield harmonics for like one hundred years or whatever.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but Dagriham's theering. But I do know
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: that the Enterprise d shield frequency was two five seven
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: point four gigakurts.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And if that doesn't deserve a DIRD alert, I don't
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: know what does it?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Does it does? Let me let me get that warning
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: warning one bird alert.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: NERD alert, Yes, thank you, thank you. So early on
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in the film we find out, well we don't find out,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: but Spot gets the news, uh that Spock Prime has
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: passed away. And of course, uh, you know the reason
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that Spot, the Spot Prime wasn't in this baskedback wasn't
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: in this is because Leonard Nimoy passed away in twenty fifteen.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: This was uh when we when we found out, this
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: was emotional, uh, at least for me. I mean it
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: brought a real to the to the show, to the movie.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: You know, Stock was gone and he had that that photo.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Of the whole crew at the end, yeah, the TS crew.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So and this is another reason why I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: think they brought the series, the franchise, the Calvin Universe
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to a close in this one I don't think there
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: is any more stories to be told. But the admiral
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that you talked about in the beginning, the name was
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Admiral Paris. That's right, yes, m yeah, Tom's so they're
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: thinking that it was obviously a nod to a voyager
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and possibly an ancestor of Thomas Eugene Paris and Admiral Parris.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: We lost an unfortunately.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, come back in whenever you get a chance.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I one thing I want to talk about too is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the USS Franklin. I it took me this seventeenth watch
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: to truly understand what time period this sh comes from,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: and I finally have a grasp at what it was.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: And so it was it was NX three something like
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: three sixty five or whatever it was. Uh. So it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: was a ship that was well beyond the Enterprise from
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Star Trek Enterprise. But it was a warp for ship. Yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And the reason was it was just an older ship.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It was an older ship. Uh it Uh but uh,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: our our krill friend was from past the time period
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: of uh Star Trek Enterprise because they mentioned that he
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: did he mentions that he was involved in the Romulin Wars, right, Okay,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: so he mentioned the Zindi, he mentioned the Romulin wars.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Uh he was a makouh and and they they dissolved
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the Makos and they basically gave him a starfleet commission.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: They gave him this older War four capable ship and
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: said here you go. And he was thought about that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So that's where that ship comes from. That ship is
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: an older UH design ship, but it's his time period
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: is after Archer's Enterprise era, right, right, So I think you.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Could have done something with that too, though, because he
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: mentions about, you know, he was a he was a
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: wartime guy, and how are you supposed to make peace
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: when when we're already passed, you know, right, when we've
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: had so much fighting. I think you could have done
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: something where you bring in a Romulin crew member at
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: the beginning, because you had the first movie where they
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: were fighting the Romulins, right, so you could have brought
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: that in. You could have been like, nobody trusts her.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Then then they get attacked. Everyone looks at her or
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: him whoever whatever you pick, right, and and so now
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that everyone's just against that that crew member, right, they're
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: they're the red herring. They're the one we all think
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: has has betrayed us.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like, you.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Know that that character is really the one who's trying
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to out maybe they're the one who saved the mcguffin
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: something along those lines. Kirk realizes, no, we can't make friends,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: and so that's your arc.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: But I know, okay, no, you're absolutely right. Can we
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: talk about the mcguffin device for a second. I never
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: understood what was there if there was a connection between
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: those little dog species and the krill like species, Like,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: was it just a coincidence that.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It was just a coincidence?
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: It was just a coincidence, Okay, okay, is there a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: connection between the species that was that Kirk was trying
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: to be a mediator or and this dog like species?
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: What were those species? Do we know they're not connected?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: It's not the same specieses Okay. I was just confused, like, yeah,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: here's just a coincidence. Okay, all right, moving on, Yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. Yeah. A lot of people online
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and IMDb uh noticed that the internal schematics for the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yorktown looked suspiciously like the Death Star, so a lot
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: of people were drawing parallels on that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's that's from a different start.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's from a different star trek.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's from the one with the whales, right right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: exactly the whales to destroy the dead star.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Throw the whales through the little port and that's what
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: blows it up.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: It's right right, and they're being chased by the cylons and.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Now that's right, they're being chased with the cylons. Yeah,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: because he just wants to go home.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: We you know, we got three of these movies, and
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: we got two seasons of Strange New Worlds, which takes
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: place in kind of ish the same time frame in
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: different timelines, So there are some duplication of of of
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: characters and sis. Yeah, specifically one I'm I'm gonna ask
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: you about. So this is this is a tough one.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: I want to know where you stand, Zachary Quinto or
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Ethan Peck.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Oh you know, I feel like, having now recently seen
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: all three of the films and then you know, Strange
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the World is still pretty fresh in my mind. I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: think I enjoy Ethan's portrayal a little bit better. I
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: agree with you, Yeah, I really do.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I think Eden's portrayal is more like Leonard Nimoy. His
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Spock is more like Leonard Nimoy's spot. Yeah, you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: this is what's rolling around in my head. I think,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I think Zachary Quinto, this is a kind of counter intuitive.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Zachary Quinto brings more emotion, yes, the Spock, which again
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: he's he's portrayed Spock an emotionless character supposedly, and I
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: He lets his emotions show through a little bit in
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: this movie. He actually smiles in relief, like he's like, ah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: you know whatever he's he's it's a legitimate smile, which
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I Valcans have emotions, they just use their
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: mental disciplines to suppress them. So when you're in physical
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: agony for hours on end, I can understand that some
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: of those walls might come down. But you know, I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: do like that. I do like both of their performances.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I I think that ethan Pex is a little bit
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: closer to the original Spock. So yeah, yeah, you know.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: The the other thing we didn't mention is, oh, go ahead,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: go ahead with that.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm stalling because I'm not sure.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I just think we got.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: We got at that episode last season where Spock becomes
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: human for episode and we get to see you get
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: to see Ethan Pack as Spock with the full range
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: of emotions.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: And I bought it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: I bought every minute of it.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bought every second of it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I've seen zach quinto other things.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And the other thing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: The other thing too, is we have six hours of
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Zachary Quinto Spock. We've got twenty six hours of Ethan
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Peck Spock. Right, so Ethan Peck has more time to
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: delve more into the character and to put him in
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: different situations and bring that out of him.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, we've got regular Spock, We've got bearded Spock.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: We've got right, we got a lot of Spock.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Or with Zachary Quinto, he's got moments to shine. But
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, if you add it up all his time
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: in each of the films, I'd be surprised if you've
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: got more than forty minutes between all three of the movies.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I also like his his I like his version because
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of it. I like his attitude. Yeah, he's got attitude
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: in in this movie, in all three of these movies.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: You know, I am expressing multiple attitudes at one twitch
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: you're referring and the only gratitude, the only emotion I'd
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: like to portray, you know, convey is gratitude, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: thank you, live along and prosper. He's very snarky. Yeah,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: very snarky. You know, Get this man off my ship.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I like his attitude because it's different. It might not
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: be you know, spot, but I you know, it brings
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: us something a little bit different to the character. And
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: nobody wants a carbon copy, right, you know. But and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: le like Zach cree Quinto, loves that in can you do.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Something for me?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Can you put yourself in the middle? The my OCD
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: is right now?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you? You don't want me, is it? I thought
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: we were friends.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Know, the yellow, the two yellows together was selling. It
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: was driving me up.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize. I didn't realize you're wearing a Starfleet Delta.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeh yeh in honor of the movie.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: That's right, So okay, I get so wrapping up the review,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: m how do you guys think this left the Calvin universe?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Do you think obviously we've talked about Star Trek four
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: till we were blue in the face. I don't think
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: it's needed. What are your guys thoughts.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Like that we need a fourth film?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: If they're going to do one, I think I think
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: it has to like tie up the Calvin Timeline fold.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: It back in. Okay, Okay, I I think they did
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a good job wrapping this one up. I think a
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: trilogy is just.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Did a show a few years ago. I think where
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: we uh we each pitched our star Trek four.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, when we do that? That done?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you need a fourth one.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I think it wraps up good enough the way it is.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, especially with you know, they said goodbye
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: to characters. They said goodbye to Spot. They did a
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: tribute to anton Yelchin uh jj. Abrams said early on
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: after his death that he was not going to recast him, right.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Uh So, I think the story has been told because
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: this isn't a main, main Timeline universe story. It's it's
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: an offshoot story. You know. It's it's like doing the
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Mere Universe. You know, they did the Mere Universe. The
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: stories are done, you know, let's put it to rest.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I think what you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: What you could do very similar to like what you
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: did for the Lower Dex crossover. You could bring one
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: of these actors over as a crossover character like somehow,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: you know, they find a ripple in space or whatever
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: it is, and and you bring on Zachary Quinto's Bock
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: or you know, Chris Pine whatever, right, you could you
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: could do that.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll uh Crisis Earth, I just write I just watched, Uh,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I just watched where Superman meets Superman. Like you are
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Clark Kent and it's it's Tyler Hoakland.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: And yeah, Brandon Rathred.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: No, it's Tyler. It's they go to visit the Smallville universe.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's right.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like you are Clark Kent, right Tom, Yeah, Tom, Welly,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: So you can have something like that. It's like this
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: is Spock. Wait, this is Spock, Like, yeah, hello, Spock,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I am Spock. I am Spock. Peace and long life,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Live long and prosper. Yeah, there could be a cute
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: moment there. It shouldn't be longer than an episode.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: You could even do. Zachary couldn't have been like this
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: is not the first time I met.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Myself, right right? Yeah, that that'd be great.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: This is comments about you know, you don't seem to
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: be bothered by this prediction.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is not the first time I've met.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the episode, you could say,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: as my usual agreed, he would seem oddly self served,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and I will simply say good luck, and that's how
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: the episode was. People would love like that, you know,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: people would love it. So yeah, I think you could
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: say goodbye in an episode of Strange New Worlds.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: And they have been known to, you know, swing for
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the fences, so you know whether you.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Now would it? Would that be a musical episode or
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: just a regular one.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: No, they would make it animated, just for the heck
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, claymation, stop motion. Yea. The lines are
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: high coup that's right, correct, correct or limericks or limericks.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: They go back and forth and then it ends with
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: them singing three Little Birds from Bob Dylan or Bob Marley.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, where are you broadcasting from me? Yeah?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Idaho? My house. I don't know.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: I saw somewhere that Idaho doesn't exist.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, Idaho doesn't exist.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: That is That is my new favorite conspiracy theory.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: That's funny because a friend of mine, Steven and I
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Stephen had this theory that Wyoming doesn't didn't exist for
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: many same reasons, like you've never known anybody who went
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to Wyom, You've never been to Wyoming yourself, and yeah,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Ida hope probably doesn't exist because nobody knows anybody who's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: ever been to Wyoming. Nobody listening listening to the show
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Lives in Wyoming has ever been to lives in Idaho?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Has ever been to Idaho? So and Daniels lying about
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: being in Idaho. Potatoes come from Russia. People get with
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the program?
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Uh, all right, well should we get to should we
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: get the listener feedback?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Have we beaten beyond? Sure?
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Beyond?
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: All right, well let's uh, let's let's get the listener feedback.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Uh, listener feedback?
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: All right? So uh for our listener feedback. I did
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: post in a lot of the social media, hey, if
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: we do another Gelevin film, what Beastie Boys fun do
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: you want in it? And uh, there was a lot
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: of a lot of answers we got. Intergalactic was the
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: most popular one far and away, Beastie Boys was or
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Brass Monkey was pretty high up there. But a few
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: people put girls girls girls that Beasty Boys, So I
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: thought that was funny.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: How about the sweater song I wanted? Benny and the Jets,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Benny and the Jets.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on their like anthology.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I just saw that. I just saw the
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: album The Beast Boys album on on vinyl at Walmart yesterday. Yeah. Yeah,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: so yeah, their final section really takes it brings back
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: some memories. It's all stuff that you would have been
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: on in like the late nineties.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody was telling me that, uh that the vinyl that
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: they make now is over near as good as the
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: stuff from like the sixties and seventies because they make
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: it with plastic as opposed to resin. Oh yeah, so
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: it's not nearly as high quality. And he tends to
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: wear out after a while.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So you can't, like in a dramatic fashion like shatter
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: it on the countertop. Not really, no, no, but I
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: found out it. No.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: I don't listener vinyls, so it's fine.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: We've got to. We've bought my oldest son of record
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: player a few years back, and he's got quite a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: few albums and it's it's quite varied too, you know. Yeah,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: like Disney soundtracks all the way to like eminem you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and everything in between.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: So okay, that's cool.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Oh well we got Chasmis on the line, so let
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: me let me bring him into.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: There. He is, Hello, Hello, what's up? Chazz biz not much?
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Did you did you watch the movie jazz Biss? Yes,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Chad Biss, go put on a black shirt. Man, you're
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: throwing it off.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I know, blue blue.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: I'll just squat down.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: There we go, There we go, jazz bizt the guy,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: the guy that says track cast mobile one. That's that's Dan, Dan,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: This is jazz Bist. Yeah, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: Are you selling the auto insurance or something?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Go door to door.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: One?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So did you rewatch Beyond?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: I was like Dan, and I got as far as
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: he did. Okay, I didn't even get to teach yourselbow.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you should have watched the second
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  Speaker 3: half and then yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: It's just started in the middle and just ended it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The thing is is like beat for beat. I know
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: what happens in this movie, and I remember it. There's
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: like there's nothing special about this movie.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: You know, this movie Rewatching, especially with in it. Yeah,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: it made me think it would have been better if
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Knuckles was the character because is technically an alien.
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  Speaker 5: Well they had this like you hired this great actor,
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  Speaker 5: but you put him under this like heavy makeup.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the big critiques.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and so nobody even knew was Selba, So you
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  Speaker 5: could have got anybody to play that part.
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  Speaker 2: Not Yeah, and even when you minimize the makeup and
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: he's done his vampire energy thing where it's not as Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't get any.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Device is like the end all be all, So yeah,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't get that either, Like how did because he
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: was human? They show him as a human and then
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: somehow you morphed.
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  Speaker 5: Into something with the planet really like changed him. And
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: you know, because it's other aliens they're on that planet,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: they got changed into this.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: They they should have tied it in with that that
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  Speaker 1: planet from Insurrection, Like I said somehow that the the
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  Speaker 1: radiation rings of this planet, these are the original inhabitants
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And you know what I really
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: wish I was were talking about those dogs, those little
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: dog looking things. They had a real brief uh scene
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: where you see the back of one of them in
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: a starfleet uniform, not wearing pants. I wish there had
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: been an interaction earlier in the movie where Kirk is like,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you know, dude, what's up with your people? They're like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: really super stupid and weird and strange and won't you
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: know they're misbehaving and they speak English. So it would
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: be cool to see an interaction between Kirk and Starfleet
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: dog mm.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: Hmm, like Dan's eyes.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: It was like, you.
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  Speaker 2: Could have done something.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: You were pants, yeah exactly, yeah, put some pants on.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: See this uniform see it?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You people, well they.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: Had like Jelic or you know, Jellico's like ancestry. They're
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: saying that to him.
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  Speaker 2: So right, well, if the planet really changed you that much,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: you could have done something where like, hey, if we
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: stay on this planet for more than seventy two hours
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: or whatever it is, it's going to start changing the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: crew and they're going to be more antagonistic and less
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: likely to fall in line or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly, Like something should have happened like that, you know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: the crease should have started changing. Yeah, it made no
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: sense that all the aliens changed, but Jala didn't, right.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: I thought it was really weird. And then how did
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: they get these little ships? Okay, they control these where
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: did they call them?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: That's another thing that I was able to catch this
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: this nineteenth doing it was it was they were mining vessels, right,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: the old mining vessels thens on Hyeah. Apparently, you know,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: don't let the Romulans know that starfleet shield frequencies are
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: vulnerable to you know, single person mining craft.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just need civilian technics, you'll get them.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: And their ships are also made of unobtainium because they
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: just you know, ripped through the Enterprise hall like it
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: was you know, wet tissue paper and there was no
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: signs of damage to these ships and they crash landed
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: on the planet and they're fine.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: And how many times has the Enterprise been destroyed in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: movies now.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: In movies? I can think of three?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know one thing though that this film did win
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: an Academy Award for Best Makeup.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the makeup was great.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know that one lady with her head opens up.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: And yeah, you put the mcguffin device and it fits there.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: It's not like sticking out or anything, right, right, you
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: know what happens if it's alien with the cow lake
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: with that head so or it doesn't go down all right, Yeah,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: we didn't put water on it or anything.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, what if she wasn't there?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, where were they hiding?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Right right? Oh she was sick today.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: Oh no, Scotty, I need you to put this in
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: the old prison purse.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, prison person. That's the first time IVE ever heard
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: that one.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, you knew exactly what I was talking about.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's got a past. You mentioned Jala. What do
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: you guys think of Jayla? Jayla was played by Sophia.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: M I liked her great.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like her a lot. I liked her attitude.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: If they made a new one, they you know, check offstead,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: they should her because you don't have enough female cast
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: on the old crew.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Speaking a female cast, Alicia Eve was conspicuously not in
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: this movie. She was not even mentioned, even though in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the last movie they they firmly established her she was
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: now part of the crew. Now. I don't know why, Yeah, Alice, Alice, Yeah,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. The actor was not in the movie,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and they don't even explain it away in in this movie,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: there's no.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: No, I don't uh.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: She's off raising little David by her by herself.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and they they talked about the one possible
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: explanation that they didn't get into in the movie, and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: that early on in the script they were gonna mention
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: something but that she was off doing research on the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Genesis device. Okay, okay, say something in the movie, you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: like doctor Marcus is off doing this a new secret project.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: One line, doctor McCoy or m kirk.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: That should have been your ancient weapon is the Genesis device?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: They get like a really.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Old tech Oh yeah, yeah, and again the mcguffin device.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: What did this device do to complete the weapon? Was
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: it a key?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Was it you know, the final put it and then
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: you could turn it like the Predator?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Right was I mean you can't replicate this No, apparently not.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: You can't rebuild it?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, just getting crack it open and let
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: out the angry storm.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: Don't forget.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Keys is on its break, So that's right.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeahs and tomb Raider video games.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, don't forget a kelpie and cried and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: destroyed all the delithium.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's true. That's about that.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: I mean that right there. You might as well just
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: wipe out all the Kelpians.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: This was by far a perfect movie. I really enjoyed it,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: and I really liked the soundtrack that they brought a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: little a little something new in the soundtrack at the beginning,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: and I thought it sounded the as there as they
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: first pan onto uh not the Franklin but the York Town.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: The music and it sounded like epic Christmas movie music
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: for some reason. Right, if you go back and listen
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: to it again, it just sounds like, oh, I don't think, yeah,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: this would make like a really this is like Elf
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: two music. I really liked it, but it gave me
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Christmas movie.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay. I got a question about the Yorktown, right,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: so yes, you see the Enterprise pulling in there and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: it's going through dry dock, right, yeah, so it's going
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: into port. The thing is, what about the Big Black
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: Enterprise from into darkness something? When you can fit in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: that port?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Would not outside the Evil Enterprise?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: No, yea evil Enterprise on the park outside and then
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: yeah you have the park outside and just kinder boats
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: over yeah transport in.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: The Big Black one.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: You didn't see the goatee on it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Big platform cop was.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Flying around with his evil God. Yeah, good times. It's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: it's it's just not caught in that movie. But yeah,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: it's there. They should have put flames on it, but
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: you know, it's evil.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: So all right, I guess because I took a cruise
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: and you know, I see how big these ships are,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, Okay, if you make them too big,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: you can't pull out a port, you know, because most
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: of the if they're too big, they can't.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: So if they're too big, a can't pull out.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah the oh no, no, well they fit in the dog.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: You got your mother watching the show.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Scott's.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: To get to the port.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: Oh I Mom, I Mom, she doesn't know.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Well that's what that's what she said. Wow, on that note. Yeah,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: let's wrap it up, Scott.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: That's all Scott.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's wrap it up. That's what she said.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: Oh god, she said, all right, oh god, that's what
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: she said.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, there's a Chili's commercial. They opened the Chili's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Okay, and they made a commercial for
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: and everyone in the commercial is like, uh like small
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: characters from the office.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, so go look it up.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: It's it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: Wow. Okay, okay, all right, you got like Kevin and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: to do with Star Trek.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, g baby back rides.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm throwing up the phone number. Oh
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: would you get a voicemail? Hold on?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally forgot about this. Let me uh, let
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: me add that because I forgot to put it in here.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: Let's play that voicemail.
• 1:11:26
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  Speaker 1: So were you.
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  Speaker 5: Mac and me?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: That's a deep cut. Yeah, that was like they had
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: a dance off in McDonald's in that movie.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, hey, you know, So that voicemail was
• 1:12:21
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