Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 292: Stargate: Continuum
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- 0:25Speaker 1: Get It Again, episode two hundred and ninety two, talking
- 0:28Speaker 1: stargates the movie again Contest one again while continuing the
- 0:34Speaker 1: continuum Mitch, Maddie, what's doing? Hey? Howy you doing? With
- 0:39Speaker 1: room for a? I mean it's a bit of a
- 0:42Speaker 1: I A gang's all here sort of situation for the
- 0:44Speaker 1: for the show, which is great. Like just the faces
- 0:47Speaker 1: that kept popping up, the names that kept popping up,
- 0:49Speaker 1: even if this sport and the credits you sort of
- 0:51Speaker 1: see them coming along and Hammond walks in and you're like,
- 0:53Speaker 1: goddamn it, he's back. Like just some fresh faces, well
- 0:57Speaker 1: not really fresh, but old faces made fresh again. I
- 0:59Speaker 1: don't know where really I'm saying, because you know I'm
- 1:01Speaker 1: busting as it is. Can we just switch the third Micael?
- 1:04Speaker 2: I was just I was like, what's the what's that
- 1:07Speaker 2: the tedious link? You still have the tedious link audio?
- 1:10Speaker 1: I don't think I do know the tedious link is mean,
- 1:12Speaker 1: it's not shutting up as.
- 1:14Speaker 3: It always is, so everything is new again as well?
- 1:24Speaker 3: Do this?
- 1:24Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:24Speaker 3: Yeah, you want to get on my phone that I
- 1:30Speaker 3: want to have control? Might I can look, buddy mate?
- 1:34Speaker 3: Very well bloody unreal to be here. Well, I mean
- 1:38Speaker 3: I love what you've done with the place.
- 1:42Speaker 1: I mean the studio itself. There has been two computer
- 1:44Speaker 1: monitors between where you and Maddie would sit, taken away
- 1:48Speaker 1: so you would actually be able to see each other
- 1:50Speaker 1: for the first time in ten years. But as we
- 1:52Speaker 1: have it set up today, Maddie sitting in Reese's old chess,
- 1:55Speaker 1: you're actually next to each other. So, I mean, you
- 1:56Speaker 1: have to be weird.
- 1:57Speaker 3: When we start screaming at each other about weird was
- 2:00Speaker 3: spitting each other's mouths.
- 2:01Speaker 2: This movie would have been so much better if we
- 2:03Speaker 2: was in it. I just got a notification my phone
- 2:08Speaker 2: wrap horn free share on Twitter.
- 2:11Speaker 3: God. Yeah, we'll get to that after wrap porn, rap horn.
- 2:15Speaker 3: That's that's my right. It's called rap porn. I just
- 2:20Speaker 3: sounded like I said, rap porn. I've never looked that up,
- 2:26Speaker 3: especially what I've seen.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Read it to me for the first sight starts complicating things. Yeah,
- 2:31Speaker 1: he used to get away with it. We're parents. It
- 2:34Speaker 1: makes it a little bit weird.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Pull my hair harder.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Actually the dinner, yeah, bloody continuum,
- 2:44Speaker 1: here we go. Finally at this stage, I mean it
- 2:48Speaker 1: was it was weird enough getting to the end of
- 2:49Speaker 1: SG one. It was weird enough getting to Arc of Truth,
- 2:52Speaker 1: and then now here we are with the second of
- 2:54Speaker 1: planned x amount of movies and what became the final one. Right,
- 2:59Speaker 1: we'll get into the snops as per usual on the
- 3:01Speaker 1: physical media. Thank you Matthew for bringing it in. Ye
- 3:05Speaker 1: look at the size of that synopsis. I haven't got
- 3:08Speaker 1: enough breath. Yeah, lengthy, brad.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Wright wrote that.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Well, in that case, it's going to be amazing, all right.
- 3:15Speaker 1: An elite military unit SG. One. See this is just
- 3:18Speaker 1: for the casual fans must flee back to Earth when
- 3:20Speaker 1: two members of their team inexplicably disappear into thin air.
- 3:24Speaker 1: But they return to a world in which the Stargate,
- 3:26Speaker 1: an ancient device which allows them to travel to hundreds
- 3:28Speaker 1: of planets. Would have thought would be more than that
- 3:31Speaker 1: was never discovered, and their own history has been erased.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Now they must convince a dubious government and military that
- 3:37Speaker 1: the timeline was altered by a powerful alien enemy ball
- 3:42Speaker 1: in order to conquer Earth, and time is not on
- 3:45Speaker 1: their side. That was written by brad Wrights and it
- 3:49Speaker 1: was directed by Martin Wood. So we are in some
- 3:52Speaker 1: good bloody hands. Oh yeah, God for a hands, I
- 3:56Speaker 1: would say, the eighteen Well yeah, I mean and just
- 3:59Speaker 1: everybody that's that's that's here, I mean.
- 4:02Speaker 3: His favorite musician, and Sheeran would say eighteen.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of his new album One
- 4:07Speaker 1: of the great when he goes to India and.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Like his first, second, third, and fourth albums.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the songs or both via Bollywood.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Hell yeah, which is exactly what we're asking because that's
- 4:21Speaker 3: what that's does.
- 4:22Speaker 2: What we need is to get it, you know, introduced
- 4:24Speaker 2: to that kind of music. Is you know, a pale.
- 4:26Speaker 1: White guy, Yeah, pasty, redheaded English telling you what Indian.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Music India bloody colonizes.
- 4:31Speaker 1: It's like it's like Beyonce telling us what country music is.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Finally, finally we've got someone that puts it on the
- 4:38Speaker 1: map in the way that it was meant to be heard.
- 4:40Speaker 3: She's from Texas, so you know.
- 4:43Speaker 1: She's going to know. I don't like to I mean,
- 4:46Speaker 1: you know, you know me, I'll occasionally throw out the
- 4:49Speaker 1: marble thing, but I mean, as far as what they
- 4:50Speaker 1: did the end of their franchise, they end gained the
- 4:52Speaker 1: ship out of that, and this is sort of like
- 4:54Speaker 1: just just even the fact that like random villains that
- 4:57Speaker 1: we haven't seen since like season two of this show
- 5:00Speaker 1: all of a sudden popping back up and it was.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Just like this, Yeah, well I've got I've got a
- 5:06Speaker 2: I've got a list here for you. So in this,
- 5:08Speaker 2: in this uh stretch DVD movie, you get every single
- 5:14Speaker 2: s G one regular cast Memberpofus, Camulus, Cronus, near to
- 5:18Speaker 2: you Ba, President Hayes, and no Jonas. Oh yeah, the
- 5:24Speaker 2: only the only regular cast member for the entire series.
- 5:29Speaker 2: They even the only other person that was missing was Bratach.
- 5:33Speaker 2: That's the I think that's the only way it would
- 5:34Speaker 2: be worse is if they included brattach as well and
- 5:37Speaker 2: not included the Nubis.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Was there?
- 5:40Speaker 5: Sorry, I was thinking, what was the Devil's the devil guy?
- 5:45Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Michael Rosenbaum, Michael Rosenbaum, great people. But I
- 5:53Speaker 5: mean so car was on it for like that one episode,
- 5:55Speaker 5: so that's true.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been weird. Imagine your Jonas. You're
- 6:00Speaker 1: at like a con. Everyone's there and just and just
- 6:03Speaker 1: behind the scenes, we're all talking about continuum, how great
- 6:05Speaker 1: it's going to be.
- 6:06Speaker 3: What's that?
- 6:06Speaker 1: What's that?
- 6:06Speaker 3: Now?
- 6:07Speaker 1: I continue he's expecting like he's in the open eyes.
- 6:10Speaker 1: No emails about it, no text messages about it. Yeah,
- 6:12Speaker 1: just wait and freeze his agent to call him to say, hey,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you're in.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Well, apparently Steve Bassick, the guy who plays Camulas, he
- 6:18Speaker 2: was just like, yeah, I come back if you want.
- 6:19Speaker 3: If you want to come back, right, I'd love to
- 6:20Speaker 3: come back. And brad Ron went okay, And then you
- 6:23Speaker 3: see Cronus on the screen and you're like, hell yeah, dude,
- 6:26Speaker 3: yeah freaking sweet.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:30Speaker 2: They even roped in some guy to play Ra. Was
- 6:32Speaker 2: just like, yeah, yeah, you can be Ra. Yeah, I Wasky.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Because that guy he did he quit after making Stargate
- 6:41Speaker 1: the movie. That guy like he was like a model.
- 6:43Speaker 3: Million bucks or something. J David may tell him the
- 6:48Speaker 3: story mate, you want to do something different? Yeah, all right,
- 6:53Speaker 3: So this segment's going to be called it's time to
- 6:56Speaker 3: find out if you've been paying attention, So you might
- 6:59Speaker 3: as well sing that if you've a little bit of
- 7:06Speaker 3: sounds different.
- 7:07Speaker 2: But it's also you know, can I copy your homework
- 7:09Speaker 2: exact exactly?
- 7:11Speaker 3: So basically what I'm gonna do here is do I
- 7:14Speaker 3: got seven questions. It's not going to be like quick
- 7:17Speaker 3: fire like we normally do, so there's a little bit
- 7:19Speaker 3: less pressure. So it's mainly for the audience members, but
- 7:23Speaker 3: also I want you to memorize it in your head.
- 7:26Speaker 3: And I'll throw to Mitch first because it's unfair. If
- 7:30Speaker 3: he doesn't know, he can pass to you.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Okay, and I also wear a team well I don't know,
- 7:37Speaker 2: it's one against one, but ok but Mitch will get
- 7:40Speaker 2: first DIBs because you know, because awesome. Because what I
- 7:45Speaker 2: need the opposite of whatever that audio was correct, the
- 7:48Speaker 2: one that I just need audio of Mitch going Maddie
- 7:51Speaker 2: knows way more about Stargate than like that's where I
- 7:54Speaker 2: was going.
- 7:55Speaker 3: Yeah, So what I'm going to do here is just
- 7:56Speaker 3: read the question twice and then I'm not going to
- 8:00Speaker 3: give an answer. Just read all seven questions. Then I'm
- 8:04Speaker 3: going to go back read the question again and give
- 8:07Speaker 3: you the answer, or I'm going to let Mitch guess
- 8:10Speaker 3: the answer. If he doesn't know, passes to Maddie. Maddie
- 8:13Speaker 3: doesn't know, I'll tell it, but I'm sure all the
- 8:15Speaker 3: audience will get it. Are the other any gimmes? There's
- 8:21Speaker 3: a few, Yeah, there's a few. I got these off
- 8:23Speaker 3: one of the trivia websites, so I think I got
- 8:27Speaker 3: you didn't hit up your old mate? Chat GPT. I
- 8:29Speaker 3: didn't actually I did hit him. I make heaps of
- 8:32Speaker 3: questions on this and then it was he got it wrong,
- 8:36Speaker 3: he got the question wrong, and I'm like, whatever, I
- 8:40Speaker 3: don't need you, make my own questions and copy off
- 8:43Speaker 3: someone else. Oh how good is this score? Love it
- 8:52Speaker 3: all right? Question one? When SG one he's on the
- 8:56Speaker 3: Tokra home world, what does General Laundry say he'll be doing?
- 9:01Speaker 3: When SG one is on the Tokra homeworld, what does
- 9:05Speaker 3: General Landry say he'll be doing? All right? Question two?
- 9:12Speaker 3: What is written on the box in which the stargate
- 9:16Speaker 3: is kept? What is written on the box in which
- 9:20Speaker 3: the stargate is kept? Question three? Do you need a
- 9:27Speaker 3: moment Mitch?
- 9:28Speaker 1: I mean no, the first one. I've got an answer
- 9:32Speaker 1: for second one, I'm like, I've got no see on
- 9:35Speaker 1: the opposite, okay.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Question three? Why does Daniel have his leg amputated? Why
- 9:42Speaker 3: does Daniel have his leg amputated? That's Daniel Jackson, of course,
- 9:46Speaker 3: Doctor Daniel Jackson, one of the great characters. Question four,
- 9:52Speaker 3: What was the name of the space shuttle on which
- 9:54Speaker 3: alternate Samantha Carter was killed? What was the name of
- 9:59Speaker 3: the space shuttle on which alternate Samantha Carter was killed.
- 10:03Speaker 3: I might get it. That's one for the get my
- 10:04Speaker 3: answer on that one. Question five, what animal does Cameron
- 10:10Speaker 3: Mitchell say General laundry is wild? About? This one's a
- 10:14Speaker 3: tricky one. What animal does Cameron Mitchell say general laundry
- 10:20Speaker 3: is wild? Specific species or just general? If you can
- 10:24Speaker 3: remember the very the very line, that's excellent, but I
- 10:27Speaker 3: will give you. I will give it if it's the
- 10:29Speaker 3: general species the genus. Question six? Who first sees the
- 10:35Speaker 3: alcsh flying over Earth? Who first sees the alkesh flying
- 10:40Speaker 3: over Earth? Hint? There one of them's SG one? Question seven?
- 10:48Speaker 3: Which is not Jonas's? Definitely not a Jonas not in it?
- 10:53Speaker 3: That was a spoiler. Question seven. Last question, which go
- 10:57Speaker 3: old system lord does not serve bar? Which go old
- 11:02Speaker 3: system Lord does not serve ba? Al right, all right,
- 11:08Speaker 3: ready to roll? All right? Question mine, I repeat the question.
- 11:12Speaker 3: When SG one is on the Tokra home World, what
- 11:15Speaker 3: does General Laundry say he'll be doing.
- 11:19Speaker 1: My first thought, and I know it was wrong, was
- 11:23Speaker 1: he's going to be going through his sock draw But
- 11:25Speaker 1: I'm going to say paperwork. I'm going to lock in paperwork.
- 11:28Speaker 3: Did you have that I get reports slash paperwork. Paperwork
- 11:32Speaker 3: is correct. Oh god, thank god for those playing at home.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Question two, what is written on the box in which
- 11:38Speaker 3: the stargate is kept? Did you have one for that?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Meaning?
- 11:42Speaker 3: No caution? Hot?
- 11:43Speaker 1: I have no idea.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Box of inside? No, it said Langford. Correct.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Oh, okay, well done.
- 11:58Speaker 3: All right, Mattie's got too, which has got one? Question three?
- 12:03Speaker 3: Why does Daniel have his leg amputated? I have two
- 12:06Speaker 3: answers for this. I mean, it wasn't because they got
- 12:11Speaker 3: confused about his penis. It wasn't that.
- 12:15Speaker 1: You can understand why they would. Yeah, what a man?
- 12:18Speaker 3: I mean frostbites too?
- 12:20Speaker 1: Like it's it's too broad? But is it like complications?
- 12:23Speaker 3: I guess correct, frost bit I had frostbite too.
- 12:26Speaker 2: My other answer for that was because Michael Shanks was
- 12:29Speaker 2: busy filming twenty four so he could dubble boards.
- 12:36Speaker 3: Question four, get back to that. Actually, what was the
- 12:38Speaker 3: name of the space shuttle on which alternate Samantha Carter
- 12:41Speaker 3: was killed?
- 12:42Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go because you've seen Keenan, you had a
- 12:45Speaker 1: that's one potentially coming up.
- 12:46Speaker 3: I might get that Icarus incorrect.
- 12:49Speaker 2: That's that's the good future knowledge, though, that's almost that's yeah,
- 12:53Speaker 2: that's pretty good. I was going to say the Intrepid. Correct,
- 12:56Speaker 2: damn it, the USS Voyage Intrepid.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Class fifteen decks will have walk back to nine point
- 13:03Speaker 3: because that's one. Captain Janeway commanding Officer. Question five, What
- 13:08Speaker 3: animal does camera Mitchell say? General laundry is wild about birds?
- 13:15Speaker 3: Something a bit more? Yeah, condors, you.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Couldn't get any further from it with albatross? Of course?
- 13:25Speaker 3: Does it have wafers in it? You that was a
- 13:29Speaker 3: Monty python thinking and what kind of what kind of
- 13:32Speaker 3: duck was it? In specifically duck is correct? It's a
- 13:37Speaker 3: feuvulous whistling duck. Sure, full of us whistling. Yea.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Apparently that's the throwback to that Uninvited episode where they
- 13:44Speaker 2: all went to his cabin and there was the monsters.
- 13:48Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, yeah, so I mean paperwork and ducks.
- 13:52Speaker 3: I mean, no wonder we hate this guy. I was
- 13:55Speaker 3: very timed with my answer first. I was very timed
- 13:57Speaker 3: to say he was gonna be busy doing laundry. That's
- 13:59Speaker 3: what I was hoping that. I feel like they knew
- 14:02Speaker 3: this was their last hit out.
- 14:02Speaker 1: They maybe were.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Who first sees the al cash flying over Earth.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Sam Carter, did you have that?
- 14:09Speaker 3: I had Sam? Correct both correct Question seven.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Right after she was that when she was going grocery
- 14:15Speaker 1: shopping and she picks up like the box of like
- 14:18Speaker 1: you know, like cocoa, like fruit fruity is or something,
- 14:21Speaker 1: and I'm like.
- 14:22Speaker 3: Why she and that that's better A year on, She's
- 14:24Speaker 3: just like that's her her rock bottom in a fox
- 14:27Speaker 3: of wine. Well, it's it's fending.
- 14:29Speaker 1: Fruit loops out of the wine from a box.
- 14:31Speaker 2: If you look, if you look closely at that box
- 14:35Speaker 2: they've just put because obviously the fruit is a fake.
- 14:37Speaker 2: They've made that for the show. They've just stuck that
- 14:39Speaker 2: on the front, on the side of the box. You
- 14:40Speaker 2: didn't see that. It says Rice krispies.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Really yet, even get from Unbelievable Cooper, what do they
- 14:46Speaker 3: spend on this movie?
- 14:47Speaker 2: Seven million dollars? They couldn't pieces, They couldn't make one
- 14:50Speaker 2: whole piece of cardboard.
- 14:52Speaker 3: All right, final question for this round, which gold system
- 14:56Speaker 3: lord does not serve? Mitch Apop said, get absolutely correct.
- 15:02Speaker 3: I assume that he got.
- 15:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:04Speaker 3: For a second, I was like catsh, but I'm like, nah, no,
- 15:07Speaker 3: she was. She was. She was doing a good job
- 15:10Speaker 3: for a long time. All right, So yeah, I got
- 15:13Speaker 3: another seven. So I hope you're doing well at home.
- 15:16Speaker 3: I assume you've got the more correct at home, great
- 15:19Speaker 3: people at home excellence. So the only thing that I
- 15:23Speaker 3: reckon that Ark of Truth has over Continuum is the
- 15:28Speaker 3: the opening scene, because in Continuum we have a brilliant
- 15:35Speaker 3: score shows the stars, but then there's a quick transition
- 15:38Speaker 3: fade into the gate room. I was watching this with
- 15:41Speaker 3: my kids and then, of course I've told them to
- 15:43Speaker 3: watch Stargate with me for ten freaking years, and they
- 15:46Speaker 3: decided to watch the last film. Yeah, they just didn't
- 15:50Speaker 3: want to go to bed. Bella was like, are they
- 15:53Speaker 3: in space? I'm like, no, they're not in space.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's like I think in audio material
- 16:00Speaker 2: they did say like Brad said, oh he should have
- 16:02Speaker 2: he should have had the Starskate moving before they before
- 16:06Speaker 2: they panned down. I thought you're talking about the actual
- 16:08Speaker 2: opening like that fantastic woner of like of like going
- 16:13Speaker 2: through the SGC in the that was great.
- 16:16Speaker 3: It was just it was you know, it starts off
- 16:19Speaker 3: like Star Wars almost and pans down and then then
- 16:21Speaker 3: it go, yeah, transitions to the the gate room. The
- 16:25Speaker 3: embarkation room.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Brad did say in the auto commentary, originally the way
- 16:30Speaker 2: he'd written it and in his first draft is they
- 16:32Speaker 2: were going to start on the Tokra planet and O'Neill's
- 16:37Speaker 2: line about being more bored than any person.
- 16:40Speaker 3: That was going to be the first line. That was
- 16:42Speaker 3: gonna be the first line.
- 16:43Speaker 2: But then Martin Wood was the one that came up
- 16:45Speaker 2: with the idea for the big one opener of just establishing,
- 16:50Speaker 2: you know, ironically, they said, oh, because they had to
- 16:52Speaker 2: re establish too, like because we were going to see
- 16:56Speaker 2: in this movie an alternate timeline where we didn't see
- 16:59Speaker 2: the SGC in operation, and they needed to show, you.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Know what it was a normal day in the life
- 17:04Speaker 3: of what the SGC.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Fair enough, and it was it was Martin Wood's idea
- 17:09Speaker 2: to actually get Major Davis back. He's like, we needed
- 17:12Speaker 2: we need a big face, we need a big name.
- 17:13Speaker 2: If we need someone big back that we think the
- 17:17Speaker 2: episode's gonna follow them. And then they just and that's
- 17:20Speaker 2: what Major Davis, just like Colin Cunningham just came into
- 17:22Speaker 2: faver Yeah and just did that. And you know, you
- 17:25Speaker 2: see him walking and walks around the corner and we
- 17:27Speaker 2: don't see Major Davis.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Again, it's not it's not the first time that we've
- 17:30Speaker 1: ever had that sort of like walk through, like what
- 17:32Speaker 1: is a pretty big set the SGC or the the
- 17:36Speaker 1: gate room or whatnot. But I found with that that
- 17:39Speaker 1: was almost a showing off, going hey, look this is
- 17:41Speaker 1: how big it is and we can move around. And
- 17:43Speaker 1: then transitioning that to the nineteen thirty nine when we
- 17:46Speaker 1: first get onto the ship and the ja'far come out
- 17:50Speaker 1: and attack all the seamen, and there was a lot
- 17:54Speaker 1: of playing with space in that scene too, like, hey,
- 17:57Speaker 1: this is a movie. We've actually got a bit of
- 17:59Speaker 1: bit of room to breathe and move. And there was
- 18:02Speaker 1: that one run really quick shot, almost a blink and
- 18:04Speaker 1: you'll miss it, where the girl going through and firing,
- 18:07Speaker 1: and again we're sort of seeing a lots of just
- 18:09Speaker 1: we can feel the scope of how big the ship is.
- 18:11Speaker 1: They're not just sort of shooting each other from three
- 18:13Speaker 1: feet away, they're ten meters away. They're up on a
- 18:15Speaker 1: different platform the other side of the room sort of thing.
- 18:17Speaker 1: But then there was a wide shot like taken from
- 18:20Speaker 1: out in the water and you just saw this beam
- 18:22Speaker 1: of energy fire like half the length of the ship.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Towards you know, you couldn't even see who was firing
- 18:27Speaker 1: at who they were shooting at, but it was a big,
- 18:28Speaker 1: you know, wide shot of the ship and you sort
- 18:30Speaker 1: of this beam of energy go through and hit one
- 18:32Speaker 1: of the crewmen and he falls down and it goes
- 18:34Speaker 1: back inside the ship. We just sort of to show
- 18:36Speaker 1: again the scope, and I'm like, you wouldn't have done that.
- 18:38Speaker 1: I don't feel like you're not doing a lot of
- 18:39Speaker 1: these different things in the TV show, but you've either
- 18:42Speaker 1: got a bigger budget to work with bigger sets or
- 18:44Speaker 1: more locations, and I guess we get that when they're
- 18:46Speaker 1: walking through the snow. There was just and there was
- 18:49Speaker 1: this in Fairness with Ark of Truth as well, but
- 18:51Speaker 1: I think just from recency bias, I was like, wow,
- 18:53Speaker 1: we can really feel the filmness of this, like the
- 18:57Speaker 1: sort of scope, and I mean even the the storyline overall,
- 19:01Speaker 1: like we've dealt with time travel sort of stuff where
- 19:03Speaker 1: they have to go back or alternate dimensions and convince
- 19:07Speaker 1: people you know, of what's coming and then they're not
- 19:10Speaker 1: being believed, and that sort of scale and the stakes. Sorry,
- 19:14Speaker 1: but that'll get wrapped up in like twelve minutes because
- 19:16Speaker 1: we've got to get to the end of the episode,
- 19:17Speaker 1: whereas it was over an hour when when Sam first
- 19:20Speaker 1: saw that, ol Cash and I looked and we were
- 19:22Speaker 1: about three minutes past the halfway point, and that's including credits. Yeah,
- 19:26Speaker 1: so we had a lot of that sort of build up,
- 19:28Speaker 1: which I mean, you felt it. You felt like the
- 19:31Speaker 1: half the drama was them just not being believed or
- 19:33Speaker 1: like thinking maybe that they were going to be lost.
- 19:35Speaker 1: And I'm like, how many other storylines in this entire
- 19:38Speaker 1: franchise that had to be wrapped up inside forty one minutes.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Yeah, that were great.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Anyway, would have felt even bigger and even better if
- 19:48Speaker 1: they would have been given you a two hour runtime
- 19:50Speaker 1: or even in this an our forty nine run time
- 19:53Speaker 1: or something to play with.
- 19:54Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, they were saying the auto commentary like
- 19:58Speaker 2: things like the scene where Daniel goes into the bookstore
- 20:02Speaker 2: and sees the alternate version of himself, you know, find
- 20:05Speaker 2: the book he goes. That's the first stuff that gets
- 20:07Speaker 2: cut on the TV version, you know, you never see that.
- 20:09Speaker 2: And apparently where they had to re edit this movie
- 20:13Speaker 2: for broadcast, like after the DVDs were released, they had
- 20:17Speaker 2: to trim it down by they were over by two minutes,
- 20:20Speaker 2: and they had to trim out two minutes of this
- 20:22Speaker 2: to be able to then play it on television, and
- 20:25Speaker 2: they cut out the scene where Daniel Jackson calls himself,
- 20:28Speaker 2: recalls himself, That's what they cut out. But yeah, controversially,
- 20:33Speaker 2: I actually, first time viewing, I actually preferred Ark of
- 20:37Speaker 2: Truth to continue them. I think just because I loved
- 20:40Speaker 2: the Morgan la Faye, the Adrea, you know, all that
- 20:43Speaker 2: kind of stuff of it.
- 20:44Speaker 3: But there is a lot of cinematography with the mountains
- 20:49Speaker 3: until traveling. Yeah, that's kind of yeah.
- 20:52Speaker 2: And you know me like infamously, you know, back from
- 20:55Speaker 2: season one I have I do sometimes get a bit
- 20:57Speaker 2: of a block when it comes to the alternate version
- 21:00Speaker 2: of Stargate teams and stuff, because I'm just like, well,
- 21:03Speaker 2: I know we're going to hit the reset button at
- 21:04Speaker 2: the end of this, so like, what was what was
- 21:06Speaker 2: the point in it? But over time this has definitely
- 21:10Speaker 2: held its own as being the more enjoyable of the
- 21:13Speaker 2: two movies in that it's just one of those sort
- 21:15Speaker 2: of standalone, you know, Stargate adventures.
- 21:19Speaker 3: It's just the team just.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Going off and doing and doing their own thing, which
- 21:22Speaker 2: I quite enjoyed. You mentioned the the opener to Brennan's Delight.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Robert C.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Cooper actually had a little bit of envy over Martin
- 21:33Speaker 2: Wood's opening scene.
- 21:35Speaker 6: This is well one shot. We'll tell you when it stops.
- 21:36Speaker 6: This is all one shot.
- 21:38Speaker 1: How many texts?
- 21:39Speaker 6: How many text thirteen takes?
- 21:40Speaker 3: Why?
- 21:41Speaker 4: Because Gary Gary always, It's almost always Gary. You'll notice
- 21:46Speaker 4: that I dialed back as ad libs so much that
- 21:49Speaker 4: you can't even hear the punchline. It changed every time,
- 21:51Speaker 4: and this was the best of them, was the last one,
- 21:54Speaker 4: the least tenous.
- 21:55Speaker 6: So I have to say about this movie.
- 21:57Speaker 4: When when we decided to do this, Robert Cooper had
- 22:00Speaker 4: already shot a shot for his movie, which was walk
- 22:03Speaker 4: and Talk through the through this control room up into
- 22:07Speaker 4: the boardroom, and he came up and said, have you
- 22:10Speaker 4: seen my shot? And I said, wait to get a
- 22:11Speaker 4: load of what I'm doing. And when he saw that,
- 22:13Speaker 4: he actually came up to me and said, okay, you win,
- 22:15Speaker 4: you trump me.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Oh shit, I tasted so bitter. Did you pick up
- 22:23Speaker 3: Walter's ad lib? He's parking space, He's parking I don't
- 22:28Speaker 3: know what I found himself.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I was following, obviously, it was tracking through the room,
- 22:32Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's Walter and I felt like I
- 22:34Speaker 1: was listening, but I obviously didn't actually take.
- 22:36Speaker 3: After after thirteen requests or well, I finally got my
- 22:40Speaker 3: parking space ten years about a two thousand emails. Fucking
- 22:54Speaker 3: that's right, I'll be able to grab it anyway.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, that's probably where I did tap out.
- 22:58Speaker 1: I think the thousand emails. I was just starting to
- 23:00Speaker 1: like think about just the regular office Well sure, but
- 23:04Speaker 1: I'm like, that seems like anyone who works an office
- 23:07Speaker 1: job that seems like a problem, but for him, then
- 23:09Speaker 1: what they're dealing with, like that must almost seem so minute,
- 23:13Speaker 1: and so I don't know, so that that's obviously where
- 23:15Speaker 1: I tapped out. So that's so funny. And there's I
- 23:17Speaker 1: wonder whether there was another moment that I all of
- 23:18Speaker 1: a sudden can't think of now, but even the last
- 23:21Speaker 1: couple of episodes of Atlanta's where some stuff has been
- 23:23Speaker 1: made apparent to me and I'm like, holy shit, both
- 23:27Speaker 1: of you have been like that's been part of your
- 23:31Speaker 1: Stargate or get into gate podcast vernacular since the beginning,
- 23:35Speaker 1: and it's paying off in continuum, Like whenever you're talking
- 23:38Speaker 1: about Walter Brennan. You've always laughed about the idea that
- 23:40Speaker 1: he wants a car park, and I'm like, that's funny
- 23:43Speaker 1: because he would be the forgotten guy. But he talks
- 23:46Speaker 1: about it here and I haven't seen this thing in
- 23:48Speaker 1: fifteen years, so it just seems like such like it's such.
- 23:51Speaker 3: A great fact that it's a that it's a Gary
- 23:53Speaker 3: ad lib as well. Yes, it wasn't written in so good. Yeah, yeah,
- 23:56Speaker 3: because I think when we discussed the whole Balta Diaries,
- 24:00Speaker 3: I was like, I have to try and go through
- 24:02Speaker 3: and find something that Walter has done or said like
- 24:06Speaker 3: that's actually and then watching continue, I'm like, oh, okay.
- 24:10Speaker 3: So that was basically his ad lib was the premise
- 24:12Speaker 3: of the World to Die.
- 24:14Speaker 2: I'd love to hear the other twelve ad libs though
- 24:16Speaker 2: from the Yeah twelve come in handy. Yeah, given that
- 24:19Speaker 2: Peter Martin would said that was you know, they were heinous,
- 24:25Speaker 2: Like I would love to know what it was.
- 24:28Speaker 3: He was amazing. Yeah, but yeah, I did have talking
- 24:31Speaker 3: about that alternate timeline. I did get vibes of there
- 24:37Speaker 3: but for the grace of God and water Gate when
- 24:39Speaker 3: they go to Russia. Yeah, mobius because that you know,
- 24:42Speaker 3: they all die same mobius. But yeah, it was things
- 24:48Speaker 3: that we've touched on before, but yeah, culminated together.
- 24:51Speaker 2: I wonder if maybe the reason I enjoy this one
- 24:53Speaker 2: more is because, yeah, there was more room to breathe
- 24:56Speaker 2: and we got to have all those scenes. I mean
- 24:57Speaker 2: even the one year later and things like that where
- 25:00Speaker 2: it's you know, you just got to live with the idea.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Daniel's missing a.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Leg and they're all separated and they're all, you know,
- 25:06Speaker 2: trying to have these lies and it's like, Okay, that's
- 25:08Speaker 2: all the stuff that you wouldn't get to see.
- 25:09Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd be like that would suck. Yeah. That
- 25:12Speaker 3: was the part in the movie where I'm like, dude,
- 25:14Speaker 3: that sucks. Man. Yeah.
- 25:16Speaker 2: I loved Amanda tapping, Like the reaction she gave when
- 25:19Speaker 2: she's on the bus being driven to wherever and then
- 25:22Speaker 2: the person's briefing her and telling her, you know, you
- 25:24Speaker 2: can't get a job in this, this this, and the
- 25:27Speaker 2: way she just kind of scoffs and rolls her eyes.
- 25:29Speaker 2: You're just like, ah, that would suck.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel can't even go and do archaeology or anything. Yeah,
- 25:36Speaker 3: because I would imagine him pissing off to Egypt eventually, Yeah,
- 25:40Speaker 3: just getting jack of it and like whatever, Yeah, I'm
- 25:43Speaker 3: going to leave America save up his painting is to
- 25:45Speaker 3: get a really really good prosthetic and yeah, way you
- 25:48Speaker 3: go to South Africa and then make his way up
- 25:51Speaker 3: to Egypt.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 25:52Speaker 3: Yeah. What did you think of the disappearing at the
- 25:54Speaker 3: start with Varlin?
- 25:57Speaker 2: That was a hard one because in in my mind
- 26:02Speaker 2: I kind of always wrote that off as like Baal
- 26:10Speaker 2: made more than like it wasn't just Baal going back
- 26:14Speaker 2: to the Achilles and interfering like that might have.
- 26:16Speaker 3: Been the fourth or fifth thing he did.
- 26:18Speaker 2: It's like the first thing Bal did to mess with
- 26:20Speaker 2: the timeline meant that Vala wasn't there, and then the
- 26:23Speaker 2: next thing he did to mess with the timeline MENTIOK,
- 26:25Speaker 2: wasn't there, you know, and that kind of thing. But
- 26:26Speaker 2: then you're like, well then we wouldn't be Yeah, why
- 26:30Speaker 2: why would the rest of the team be going where
- 26:31Speaker 2: is Vala? Because if the timeline was instantly different like that,
- 26:35Speaker 2: it's because she's not there, so they wouldn't be looking
- 26:37Speaker 2: for her. And even Carter says later on, it's like, well,
- 26:41Speaker 2: the reason they know about the time the what their
- 26:44Speaker 2: timeline is supposed to be is because all the changes happened.
- 26:47Speaker 3: While they were.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Trans in the wormhole, and that was Carter's theory as
- 26:53Speaker 2: to why you know, she wasn't able like they were
- 26:55Speaker 2: able to sort of.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the most like in world, you know,
- 27:00Speaker 1: just because of all the sciencey stuff that allows this
- 27:03Speaker 1: show to exist.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take that. I'll believe that part of it
- 27:06Speaker 3: because otherwise, yeah, yeah, I was happy with it, like
- 27:08Speaker 3: as a story, yeah, mode I'm like, oh, that's cool,
- 27:11Speaker 3: because otherwise you're faced with two think about it too
- 27:13Speaker 3: much exactly, Yeah, you have to.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Because it's also like every single time we do time
- 27:18Speaker 2: travel via solar flares, it's different. Like if you go
- 27:23Speaker 2: back to nineteen sixty nine, the whole point of that
- 27:27Speaker 2: one is because we like we went back through the
- 27:30Speaker 2: stargate in Shine Mountain, and then the stargate disappeared and
- 27:33Speaker 2: they had to do the road trip elsewhere whereas in
- 27:36Speaker 2: this one, it's like they go through the gate and
- 27:38Speaker 2: end up on the ship in the like on the
- 27:41Speaker 2: Achilles where the gate is and end up stranded there,
- 27:44Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's not like they went
- 27:46Speaker 2: back to the SGC and then it disappeared and they
- 27:48Speaker 2: find out later, you know, So there's a different rule
- 27:50Speaker 2: every single time. So yeah, you kind of just have
- 27:53Speaker 2: to just not think about it and just go with
- 27:55Speaker 2: the flow.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Actually, my biggest issue was bars Bridge. You know what
- 27:59Speaker 3: you he comes to earth on the Achilles little drops through.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why did he do that? Yeah?
- 28:06Speaker 1: How did he know?
- 28:08Speaker 3: And then like does he throw the plank down from
- 28:12Speaker 3: where he came from? Obviously he does, but is that
- 28:15Speaker 3: part of the plank meant to be on his side?
- 28:17Speaker 3: Is because it's still in the wormhole? Yeah, it's still
- 28:20Speaker 3: in the puddle, and then he walks. I was just
- 28:22Speaker 3: like cool, but why yeah, yeah, don't just don't think
- 28:27Speaker 3: about it. Don't think I don't think too hard when you.
- 28:30Speaker 1: It is a tricky when we start like different for
- 28:32Speaker 1: time travel. You can, okay, can play like just in
- 28:34Speaker 1: the general concept itself, but once you start bringing like
- 28:36Speaker 1: the disappearing thing, because there's either, yeah, the two rules
- 28:39Speaker 1: of time travel, like I go back in time bang
- 28:43Speaker 1: instantly the future is different and no one remembers anything,
- 28:46Speaker 1: or it's the back.
- 28:47Speaker 3: To the future ish.
- 28:48Speaker 1: But my first thought was that movie with Dennis Quayer
- 28:51Speaker 1: Jim Cavizel frequency where what was going on in the
- 28:54Speaker 1: present day or future, depending on how you.
- 28:57Speaker 3: Look at it.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Oh sorry, in the well, yeah, we're looking at two
- 29:00Speaker 1: different things going on. You know, people were fighting in
- 29:03Speaker 1: the past thirty years ago and a guy got a
- 29:05Speaker 1: cut on his face, and then all of a sudden,
- 29:06Speaker 1: you're in the future and you see that that cut
- 29:09Speaker 1: appear on his face. At the same time, you're like, well,
- 29:11Speaker 1: I would have always been there, so why But it's
- 29:14Speaker 1: only happening because we're watching these two stories and as
- 29:16Speaker 1: if your play it simultaneously. Or back to the future
- 29:18Speaker 1: where he's watching his brother and his oldest older brother
- 29:21Speaker 1: and sister disappeared from the photo, but he still remains alive.
- 29:24Speaker 1: It's like, well, why would you be if your brother
- 29:26Speaker 1: didn't exist, You're not going to exist, you know, change
- 29:28Speaker 1: one thing, change.
- 29:29Speaker 3: Everything, you know, sort of sort of stuff.
- 29:31Speaker 1: So again it's a case of like, don't think about it,
- 29:34Speaker 1: you know, too hard, because otherwise then when I think.
- 29:37Speaker 3: We do know, I've gone cross e strap in and
- 29:43Speaker 3: enjoy it.
- 29:44Speaker 1: It is a case that I thought, especially once we
- 29:45Speaker 1: got to the end, and Cam's the only one that like, again,
- 29:49Speaker 1: I haven't seen this a long time, so I didn't
- 29:51Speaker 1: remember that he was the only one that made it out.
- 29:54Speaker 1: And the only sort of fix that we see is
- 29:56Speaker 1: him stopping the ship from being taken over in nineteen
- 30:00Speaker 1: thirty nine after having been in the past for ten years. Yeah,
- 30:04Speaker 1: and then I will the rest of It's fine, I'm like,
- 30:06Speaker 1: so this was his first stop because yeah, based on
- 30:09Speaker 1: how we see people disappear at the beginning of the film, well,
- 30:12Speaker 1: Varla was the first one to go. Well, okay, if
- 30:14Speaker 1: she was the first one to go, does that mean
- 30:16Speaker 1: bab going back in time? He went back to fifty
- 30:19Speaker 1: years ago, one hundred years ago or whatever with Koteshi
- 30:21Speaker 1: and stopped her from ever you know, freeing herself to
- 30:24Speaker 1: becoming Varla again or something, and then the different you know,
- 30:28Speaker 1: then Tilk obviously, like it sort of didn't work in
- 30:30Speaker 1: a particular order that if again we don't just because
- 30:35Speaker 1: we as viewers see the ship stuff happen after a
- 30:39Speaker 1: lot of other people have disappeared, doesn't mean that it
- 30:42Speaker 1: wasn't the first stop that Ba made. But you know,
- 30:45Speaker 1: and we don't know why he made that choice, like
- 30:47Speaker 1: other than just being a real like he was full
- 30:49Speaker 1: of revenge a spie like that, the whole thing, Like,
- 30:52Speaker 1: he didn't need to do that to particular members of
- 30:55Speaker 1: the team. He probably could have achieved his overall desire
- 30:58Speaker 1: by just going back and doing against the system lads.
- 31:01Speaker 1: He didn't really need to go and properly mess with
- 31:03Speaker 1: Cameron Mitchell, Like, who gives a shit in.
- 31:05Speaker 3: The grand scheme of things.
- 31:06Speaker 1: He's only been dealing with this guy for about eight
- 31:08Speaker 1: minutes of his life. You know, it was more important
- 31:10Speaker 1: that he screwed with Jack O'Neil. Jack O'Neill's doing fine.
- 31:13Speaker 1: He's out there like doing training missions and stuff, and
- 31:16Speaker 1: his son's still alive. If anything, O'Neil got off this
- 31:20Speaker 1: got off lightly. He was fine. We never heard from
- 31:22Speaker 1: him again, so you know, why didn't he was Why
- 31:25Speaker 1: wasn't other than getting murdered at the start in the
- 31:28Speaker 1: real timeline, maybe that was enough for a narrative, but yeah,
- 31:31Speaker 1: it was just again, it's just to stop stop thinking
- 31:33Speaker 1: about it.
- 31:34Speaker 2: It's fine, get one up on O'Neil.
- 31:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it just felt gross because of how easy it happened
- 31:41Speaker 1: and how easily O'Neill. Well, not so much that he
- 31:47Speaker 1: accepted it, but the rest of the team were like, oh,
- 31:48Speaker 1: you won't leave without you. No, I'm telling you to go.
- 31:50Speaker 1: It's like, all right, we better go, and they, you know,
- 31:52Speaker 1: Carter didn't like it, but still had to run off.
- 31:55Speaker 1: And because now that I'm watching this again, having watched
- 31:58Speaker 1: the last four seasons, in particular the last previous season
- 32:01Speaker 1: rather of Atlantis, and those tiny little bits and pieces
- 32:05Speaker 1: that Carter drops about the guy in Washington and not
- 32:07Speaker 1: someone who's nearly retired, and I think she's got going
- 32:10Speaker 1: on with the guy back home. And then all of
- 32:12Speaker 1: a sudden they're standing next to each other and this,
- 32:14Speaker 1: and it's very yes, sir, no, sir, hey, but sir,
- 32:16Speaker 1: we're going to do this. And I'm like, oh, we're
- 32:18Speaker 1: back to We're back to SG one days, whereas there's
- 32:21Speaker 1: no emotional.
- 32:22Speaker 3: Because she filmed it before. That's what I mean. So
- 32:25Speaker 3: it's a bit weird.
- 32:26Speaker 1: But in saying that, I'm like, oh, wow, that's how
- 32:29Speaker 1: professional she is, you know, And that's how professional.
- 32:31Speaker 3: It was good having a professional in charge of Atlantis,
- 32:33Speaker 3: Wasn't it really good?
- 32:36Speaker 7: Now?
- 32:36Speaker 3: Finally a real.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Female too, you know, who could make some smart like decisions.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Use her mind. Yeah, said last week when she got
- 32:44Speaker 3: fired so well.
- 32:46Speaker 1: Well mate, I mean, come on, she also got locked
- 32:48Speaker 1: in it. You know, she got trapped in a hole
- 32:50Speaker 1: and found a way out. You know, when she was
- 32:51Speaker 1: all busted up.
- 32:52Speaker 3: She would have been talking to that hole, talking to
- 32:55Speaker 3: those kids. Can you let me out? No, we won't
- 32:59Speaker 3: let you out. Shed to show the cans.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I was about to say this, well I was and said,
- 33:03Speaker 1: there's no way Weir would have but Carter didn't either.
- 33:05Speaker 3: So yeah, we're are better.
- 33:08Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought that I saw her in the
- 33:11Speaker 1: show the other week, and I can. And actually I
- 33:15Speaker 1: meant to send this around in the group, but I'll
- 33:17Speaker 1: show you guys now. And I was so surprised because
- 33:20Speaker 1: it was wasn't too long ago. Brendan Thatt that Mattie
- 33:22Speaker 1: and I were talking about.
- 33:26Speaker 3: What's what's her actual to Tory, and I said that.
- 33:31Speaker 1: I felt like when we met her at like, say
- 33:35Speaker 1: forty five, I think Tory Higginson at forty five looked
- 33:39Speaker 1: younger than Elizabeth Weir at thirty five, because we did
- 33:42Speaker 1: the math about how old she would have been based
- 33:44Speaker 1: on the age of the show at.
- 33:45Speaker 3: The time, the math because you were being an age Sure, she.
- 33:49Speaker 1: Just teamed the maths mate, Okay, this is a unity.
- 33:52Speaker 3: It was the head. Yeah, it didn't.
- 33:54Speaker 1: It didn't add to anything. And so that was what
- 33:56Speaker 1: twenty years ago that she was first filming her scenes,
- 33:59Speaker 1: and then we met her ten years ago where I
- 34:00Speaker 1: felt like she looked a lot younger. And then I'm
- 34:02Speaker 1: trying to think of what show Sarah, my wife.
- 34:05Speaker 3: Was watching for the Nurse show.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Yes, I won't say Virgin River, but that's a Netflix
- 34:09Speaker 1: version of the same thing, Sullivan's Crossing, Sullivan's Crossing, and
- 34:15Speaker 1: she pops up as Chad Michael Murray's mother Tory Higginson.
- 34:18Speaker 1: But as I'm watching this, I did not know that
- 34:20Speaker 1: was her because she's aged about it like a minute,
- 34:23Speaker 1: Yeah wow, because.
- 34:24Speaker 3: I'm looking at her, going, where do I know that
- 34:26Speaker 3: woman from? Yeah?
- 34:27Speaker 1: Where do I know her eyes from? I know her
- 34:29Speaker 1: from somewhere.
- 34:29Speaker 3: That's and it's story Higginson.
- 34:31Speaker 2: That's the mom from Golden Girl, Benita from play School.
- 34:34Speaker 6: Oh it is.
- 34:37Speaker 1: But I think that, like again, I think the hair,
- 34:39Speaker 1: they've made her look a lot older in the show
- 34:41Speaker 1: than what she actually is.
- 34:42Speaker 2: But well, like you remember Maggie Smith, Maggie Smith in Hook,
- 34:47Speaker 2: the aged heaps in that.
- 34:50Speaker 1: Because I never watched anything else of Maggie Smith's until
- 34:52Speaker 1: probably Harry Potter.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Yeah, Maggie Smith, I never aged.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's like Steve Martin, She's like, oh yeah,
- 34:58Speaker 2: she's been gray since she was twenty five.
- 35:00Speaker 3: She still with us. She passed last couple of years.
- 35:02Speaker 3: I think she damn yeah, she did only like last year.
- 35:05Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful, beautiful woman that just never aged.
- 35:09Speaker 3: And Betty White.
- 35:11Speaker 2: Tory Higgins, however, you're happy to loies today.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Hey, hey, no, she can. She can join the Hell
- 35:16Speaker 1: and Mirror Club for me.
- 35:17Speaker 7: Oh yeah, but you know when he was she's not
- 35:20Speaker 7: even that old.
- 35:20Speaker 3: To Higginson, I'm you tried to change her up her
- 35:23Speaker 3: grandma character.
- 35:24Speaker 2: You thought she was a good six seven years older
- 35:27Speaker 2: than she actually was because what.
- 35:29Speaker 3: They did to her in Stargate.
- 35:30Speaker 1: We met her in real life and I'm like, are
- 35:32Speaker 1: you doing, Lincoln, go ask how she's doing. It was
- 35:35Speaker 1: more like that.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Actually, speaking of Lincoln, I was hoping he was going
- 35:39Speaker 2: to come today.
- 35:41Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:43Speaker 2: He also, Yeah, he also didn't ride for the podcast.
- 35:46Speaker 2: There's something that I think we're going to need to
- 35:48Speaker 2: push him to do from now on. Every time he
- 35:50Speaker 2: books another job, and that is to go the full
- 35:55Speaker 2: Cliff sigmon.
- 35:56Speaker 4: We have to talk with the fact that the Cliff
- 35:59Speaker 4: is actually anniated by a computer, because no human being.
- 36:01Speaker 6: Has muscles like that. He's pretty cut, he's ripped.
- 36:05Speaker 4: And he came to me the costume here originally had
- 36:08Speaker 4: had sleeves and he killed me one day and he said,
- 36:12Speaker 4: I was just wondering is it necessary for me to
- 36:14Speaker 4: have sleeves?
- 36:15Speaker 6: And I thought, no, it's not. I didn't realize why
- 36:17Speaker 6: until I saw a mindset.
- 36:19Speaker 3: Is it necessary for me to even have a top?
- 36:23Speaker 3: Do I need pants? Just ond rama?
- 36:32Speaker 1: Great?
- 36:32Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's from now on.
- 36:34Speaker 2: Whenever lincol books a job, I wanted him to his
- 36:36Speaker 2: first question be like, does my.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Character need sleeps?
- 36:40Speaker 1: Well, it's funny with with with definitely Cliff, not cloth,
- 36:45Speaker 1: but Cliff in this because again I haven't watched this
- 36:48Speaker 1: in a long time. So when we started the pod,
- 36:50Speaker 1: and you know, Rees fell in love with with ape
- 36:52Speaker 1: Off and it's like it's Apof and Ball and then
- 36:55Speaker 1: bar sort of got introduced, and then you know, very
- 36:57Speaker 1: quickly the cloning things seemed to come along, and it
- 37:00Speaker 1: was like he never quite reached his potential, and you
- 37:03Speaker 1: guys were like, oh, this is sort of where like
- 37:05Speaker 1: with hit peak Baal, and I'm like, no, no, we haven't.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Like I feel like there's so much more because I
- 37:10Speaker 1: have this great memory of him, and I wonder how
- 37:12Speaker 1: much of that purely came from not just from this movie,
- 37:16Speaker 1: but like got emphasized from this movie because the confidence
- 37:20Speaker 1: that this guy had he was in death row, He's
- 37:22Speaker 1: about to be executed, and he's sitting there going, well,
- 37:24Speaker 1: this is your making a territ little mistake and then
- 37:27Speaker 1: you regret this, yeah, and then goes back in time,
- 37:30Speaker 1: changes everything, like takes over the galaxy from a gold
- 37:33Speaker 1: point of view, like kills all of his underlings, sorry
- 37:37Speaker 1: that those opposed in like like like apoff, and then
- 37:40Speaker 1: had everyone else working for him or so he thought,
- 37:43Speaker 1: just managed to overlook his missus a tale as old
- 37:46Speaker 1: as time? Am I right? And he did it, and
- 37:49Speaker 1: he did it with this sort of just you know,
- 37:51Speaker 1: shitted and grin.
- 37:52Speaker 2: On his face and the charming conversation he had with
- 37:56Speaker 2: President Hayes and on the SAT phone, well I'm obviously
- 37:59Speaker 2: not going did you show up?
- 38:00Speaker 3: And a hologram on.
- 38:05Speaker 1: So like just the intimate details of that and you know,
- 38:08Speaker 1: all this already didn't immediately think it was a prank call.
- 38:13Speaker 3: From some days in South Africa.
- 38:16Speaker 1: He called the switchboard, get that into your blood, diamond sir,
- 38:24Speaker 1: it's coming for you. They did.
- 38:26Speaker 3: They did water him down with the clone stuff, which
- 38:29Speaker 3: I really disliked. Yeah, I dis liked that whole clone
- 38:32Speaker 3: thing for one episode. Sure, and kill all the clones fine,
- 38:35Speaker 3: But then did we actually get a wrap up on
- 38:38Speaker 3: was this the real original bar he didn't have a
- 38:40Speaker 3: chip in his head or body there. Yeah, there was some.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Some mcguffin that I think maybe Daniel said or Carter
- 38:49Speaker 2: said something like that, like he he put a he
- 38:52Speaker 2: put trackers in all of them. This one doesn't have
- 38:53Speaker 2: a tracker blah blah blah, you know, And she's like,
- 38:56Speaker 2: I'm sure.
- 38:56Speaker 3: We've got them all.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Yeah, until they you know, until if, if you know,
- 39:02Speaker 2: Starget comes back and they well I guess they're not
- 39:04Speaker 2: going to get Cliff back on it. But yeah, I
- 39:07Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, I had this had the show gone on, yeah,
- 39:12Speaker 2: they probably would have found a way to bring him.
- 39:14Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at Apofus. You know, Apofus
- 39:16Speaker 2: died like four times. They they always found a way
- 39:18Speaker 2: to bring him back. So you know if they wanted
- 39:19Speaker 2: two days.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad for Bar's legacy that this
- 39:24Speaker 3: this film exists. Yeah, it would have been a travesty
- 39:28Speaker 3: to end on the way it did.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it took him back to the Yeah, the pompous,
- 39:33Speaker 2: arrogant but also somewhat charming kind of character that you know,
- 39:38Speaker 2: he he could be, like, he could be ruling the
- 39:42Speaker 2: entire galaxy if it weren't for his ego, you know,
- 39:45Speaker 2: and he wants to have his ego stroked. You know,
- 39:47Speaker 2: he can have literally any woman in the galaxy, but
- 39:52Speaker 2: he's like, no, I'm going to have kotsh you know,
- 39:54Speaker 2: I'm going to have I'm gonna have Kotesh in Vala
- 39:56Speaker 2: Malduran's body because that's going to make him feel like
- 40:00Speaker 2: he's a big man. And that was his undoing, you know,
- 40:04Speaker 2: by having to do all these these things.
- 40:06Speaker 1: So and I know that with the timey wimy stuff,
- 40:09Speaker 1: there's an element huge as it may be, of just
- 40:13Speaker 1: shut up, stop thinking about it. But when she stabbed
- 40:16Speaker 1: him with that blade, and she's like the edge of
- 40:17Speaker 1: this blade have been sharpened to within the width of
- 40:21Speaker 1: an atom, and I'm like, are.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Like how like that's pretty small.
- 40:27Speaker 1: Guys like, couldn't you just I don't know, like quarks, Yeah,
- 40:32Speaker 1: Like what's the smallest that we could think of that's
- 40:34Speaker 1: actually possible? And you'd be like, god damn that sharp.
- 40:36Speaker 1: You know.
- 40:36Speaker 3: It's like with an inch.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Of a single strand of hair, you'd be like, God
- 40:40Speaker 1: damn that sharp. Yeah, but you know a molecule, You're like, okay, well,
- 40:44Speaker 1: I mean that seems over stretchingly. Go an atom and
- 40:45Speaker 1: I'm like, really.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Isn't isn't isn't it isn't Everything at some point gets
- 40:52Speaker 2: down to the you know what I mean, I know,
- 40:55Speaker 2: just it's like they think where they say, we're made
- 40:58Speaker 2: of atoms. Adams don't touch. So if I touch, I'm
- 41:02Speaker 2: not actually touching.
- 41:03Speaker 3: You, you know what I mean. I never touched my
- 41:05Speaker 3: own dick.
- 41:05Speaker 1: Yeah, same, Interesting, how that's the first thing you went to.
- 41:09Speaker 2: It's like, oh, so I've never hugged my kids, never
- 41:12Speaker 2: touched my own dick.
- 41:13Speaker 3: Well, we like it. Yeah, no one's touched.
- 41:16Speaker 2: That means yeah, that means nothing you've done will actually
- 41:19Speaker 2: make Jesus cry hitting.
- 41:21Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it really adds to the science versus religion thing.
- 41:24Speaker 1: It's like but I've actually never touched. It's like, well,
- 41:27Speaker 1: no you haven't. It's like, actually, if you really break
- 41:28Speaker 1: it down, like Adams have never touched, it's like no, no, no, no, no,
- 41:31Speaker 1: Jesus disapproved.
- 41:32Speaker 2: That means that means kids don't have to get into soaking.
- 41:35Speaker 2: What's up even heard about that? Like the religious kids
- 41:39Speaker 2: and the Mormon kids. So there's a new thing, so
- 41:40Speaker 2: so that it doesn't make God cry? Right, And I'm
- 41:43Speaker 2: sure you two probably did this at carmel Is to
- 41:46Speaker 2: each other, well, to each other whatever, to any unsuspecting girl. No,
- 41:50Speaker 2: I'm sure there was consent. It was fine. They like,
- 41:55Speaker 2: so the boys.
- 41:57Speaker 1: I suggest that Brendan and I were having sex with
- 41:59Speaker 1: each other, you had to jest that maybe there was
- 42:01Speaker 1: some like sexual abuse going on.
- 42:02Speaker 3: Well you find out what soaking is. So I mean,
- 42:05Speaker 3: I know we're gonna go. We're gonna go in a
- 42:07Speaker 3: heteroonormative way.
- 42:09Speaker 2: So the guy puts his hard penis inside the girl's vagina,
- 42:14Speaker 2: but doesn't thrust, because that's what's the sin. So the
- 42:18Speaker 2: friend jumps up and down on the bed next to them,
- 42:21Speaker 2: and that movement does what.
- 42:23Speaker 1: It needs to do.
- 42:24Speaker 3: But because the other.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Two are you know, passive in that it doesn't count
- 42:28Speaker 2: as premarital sex or a sex.
- 42:30Speaker 3: That's a wingman. Yeah, that's a freaking wing man. That's
- 42:32Speaker 3: why I thought you that I could picture you two
- 42:34Speaker 3: doing that, isn't it the Mormons do that? Or the yeah,
- 42:37Speaker 3: or the other ones one with the weird bids, the Amish,
- 42:40Speaker 3: I don't know, it's one of them. The Amish wouldn't
- 42:42Speaker 3: talk about it.
- 42:43Speaker 1: No, Yeah, now you're right there. I would have assumed
- 42:46Speaker 1: it was a Mormon thing, and I feel like maybe
- 42:47Speaker 1: that's where I did hear of it first.
- 42:49Speaker 3: Was we're not going to google it.
- 42:52Speaker 2: I mean, come on, any any religion in that part
- 42:55Speaker 2: of the world. The amount of stuff that's happening over there, crazy.
- 43:00Speaker 3: Wouldn't put it. I wouldn't put it past a you know,
- 43:03Speaker 3: great people. At this point, send some of that cash
- 43:06Speaker 3: over here. Exane rate is still pretty good.
- 43:10Speaker 2: What I like is that even and this is going
- 43:12Speaker 2: to test your guys knowledge of just how big a
- 43:14Speaker 2: Sciphi energy really are. I thought, you're still talking about soaking, Well,
- 43:19Speaker 2: do you want me to test you on soaking?
- 43:20Speaker 3: We can, you know, let's go, we'll jump.
- 43:25Speaker 1: Shotgun first.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Yeah, taking that one for the team. I love the
- 43:34Speaker 2: fact that no matter what alternate universe, galaxy, timeline, reality, whatever,
- 43:40Speaker 2: Tilk is still a Star Wars, still the man he
- 43:49Speaker 2: was quoting Yoda, absolutely quoting Yoda in that one.
- 43:53Speaker 3: There is another.
- 43:54Speaker 1: I mean he still decided to eventually, or maybe he'd
- 43:57Speaker 1: always had hairs as the first prime of of ba.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Yeah, knew Baal knew that Tilk hated shaving his head,
- 44:07Speaker 2: so he's you know, although in what season one of
- 44:10Speaker 2: the she one Tilk was like it was it was
- 44:14Speaker 2: part part.
- 44:15Speaker 3: Of his holiday when he was O'Neil, he had to
- 44:17Speaker 3: shave his head. Yeah, what are you doing? M Yeah, yeah,
- 44:22Speaker 3: I think it was a Tilk thing. He just grew
- 44:24Speaker 3: he grew out of it. Weird that we only I
- 44:27Speaker 3: actually liked that we only had two scenes of Vala
- 44:31Speaker 3: and one of them should literally disappeared. But it was
- 44:35Speaker 3: very cool to see kotsh In in the flesh.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I remember Claudia Black kind of saying it's
- 44:41Speaker 2: like because she didn't have a huge amount to do,
- 44:44Speaker 2: but it was yeah, people asking like, oh, so what
- 44:47Speaker 2: do you know about She's like, Vala is not in
- 44:48Speaker 2: this and that was kind of a sneaky way of
- 44:50Speaker 2: just being like, you know, you get some good Kotsh scenes,
- 44:54Speaker 2: but yeah, not a lot of Varla.
- 44:55Speaker 3: It was good though I liked the Kotsh scenes. I
- 44:58Speaker 3: was like, this is sweet. Yeah, yeah, she she gave
- 45:04Speaker 3: good villain. Yeah I was, I was.
- 45:05Speaker 2: I was. I still don't know how I feel about
- 45:09Speaker 2: whether I would have liked to have seen the scene
- 45:10Speaker 2: or not. But it's like the way at the end
- 45:12Speaker 2: when Varla kind of wanted to help Ball's host, like
- 45:18Speaker 2: after the after, Like I feel like that was a
- 45:20Speaker 2: nice moment for Varla, but it's like, as Daniel said earlier,
- 45:22Speaker 2: like that surely he'd be crazy. He'd be doing the
- 45:26Speaker 2: simili stuff like Popus was. You know, he'd be he'd
- 45:28Speaker 2: be crazy. He'd be crazy, he'd be.
- 45:31Speaker 1: And what would they what would they do with him?
- 45:33Speaker 1: Like who would have taken him on board? Because you know,
- 45:35Speaker 1: it's like I need to stick him in a would
- 45:37Speaker 1: be homeless, Yeah, regards where you put him. He's ran
- 45:40Speaker 1: the same stuff and everyone's the same amount. But that's
- 45:43Speaker 1: even like the idea of like I get that we
- 45:45Speaker 1: had a year between them sort of being dropped off
- 45:47Speaker 1: at their new homes, new IDs and all that sort
- 45:49Speaker 1: of stuff, and then we cut to you later. It's like,
- 45:51Speaker 1: oh shit, that's a long time to to not be
- 45:53Speaker 1: I mean, clearly they've worked out a way to contact
- 45:55Speaker 1: each other in that time, if they haven't already done
- 45:57Speaker 1: it in secret, but I kind of wish there was.
- 46:00Speaker 1: It was maybe nine months later, and the first three
- 46:02Speaker 1: months with them in almost lock up, because the idea
- 46:06Speaker 1: of them showing up with all these crazy stories but
- 46:09Speaker 1: also a lot of secret details that they could prove
- 46:11Speaker 1: they still know for stuff that did match up regardless
- 46:13Speaker 1: of the timeline that the government and the military just
- 46:16Speaker 1: went all right, well, look, we obviously can't have you
- 46:18Speaker 1: anywhere near this tech, and the only other option is
- 46:21Speaker 1: to stick you back out in society and just tell
- 46:23Speaker 1: you not to do the wrong thing. Like what enough
- 46:26Speaker 1: of to be that easy? I feel like you guys
- 46:28Speaker 1: would be like Area fifty wind up like hardcore for
- 46:30Speaker 1: at least a decade, if not forever, Like there's no
- 46:33Speaker 1: way that Again, that's.
- 46:35Speaker 3: Our SG one team.
- 46:36Speaker 2: We remember that reporter who haven't had, you know, run
- 46:41Speaker 2: over by a car because he you know, they like
- 46:43Speaker 2: those so that non disclosure agreements.
- 46:47Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, tight, yeah, fair enough. Yeah, Yeah.
- 46:50Speaker 1: A couple of lasers shining through the kitchen window every
- 46:52Speaker 1: every couple of days is to remind them.
- 46:54Speaker 2: Yeah, fair cool, it's a figment of your imagination somethings.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Like I loved Daniel's like sassiness in a lot of
- 47:02Speaker 2: the episodes, in a lot of the moments where like
- 47:05Speaker 2: when when they finally and see Haz He's like okay, bye,
- 47:07Speaker 2: like told you so whatever, Like so many great moments such.
- 47:11Speaker 1: A like, there's so many moments in this entire show
- 47:14Speaker 1: like movie that he was such a dick. And I'm like,
- 47:16Speaker 1: I almost feel like we've given Daniel a lot of
- 47:19Speaker 1: ship this entire run of the podcast that we all
- 47:20Speaker 1: came in going Daniel's the best, and we still come
- 47:22Speaker 1: out of it going Daniel is great. But I didn't
- 47:25Speaker 1: have a feeling of him being such a dick going
- 47:28Speaker 1: into doing the pod. And I feel like I will
- 47:30Speaker 1: finish the pod, or at least now that we're wrapping
- 47:32Speaker 1: up a lot of you know, this sort of stuff
- 47:33Speaker 1: with their characters that I'm going to be going away with,
- 47:36Speaker 1: Like God, he turned a bit of an arse the
- 47:38Speaker 1: last couple of seasons, and now I'm getting.
- 47:40Speaker 3: To the point where I justiss Hamlet. Yeah, saying that.
- 47:43Speaker 1: I still I think I'm just feeling sorry for Michael
- 47:45Speaker 1: Shanks at this point because they're I mean, whether or
- 47:48Speaker 1: not he was performing like that anyway, do they got
- 47:50Speaker 1: we'll just start writing you that way. But like even
- 47:53Speaker 1: early on, like true for no for no reason totally,
- 48:00Speaker 1: let's there's no O'Neill to.
- 48:03Speaker 3: Ones, so like someone had to take those those lines.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Or even even Ada at a point like early on,
- 48:08Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like you don't even really want
- 48:10Speaker 1: to be here, like just sitting there just I'm so bored.
- 48:13Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I get that to the line, but
- 48:15Speaker 1: it's almost youre almost saying it like you are. But
- 48:17Speaker 1: then even the gulp to Bali's like what have you
- 48:19Speaker 1: done with my people? And it's like he watched like
- 48:21Speaker 1: all these people disappear around him, going huh that out
- 48:25Speaker 1: of nowhere, And then because all of a sudden there's
- 48:27Speaker 1: some rumbling, he's like, oh what did you do? Stab,
- 48:29Speaker 1: Like he only went over there to die. It was
- 48:31Speaker 1: just like maybe a touch of poor riding, touch of
- 48:34Speaker 1: poor direction. But it also because it happens in that way,
- 48:37Speaker 1: and again, it's not going to be final. That's not
- 48:39Speaker 1: how we farewell. Jack O'Neil or Richard and Anderson from
- 48:43Speaker 1: this franchise. But I feel like, just just a little
- 48:48Speaker 1: bit when I feel like so much of the rest
- 48:50Speaker 1: of it, like I said, all the stuff that gets
- 48:51Speaker 1: repeated in this movie, that they've done so many other
- 48:54Speaker 1: times in similar storylines with time travel or alternate realities, timelines,
- 48:58Speaker 1: dimensions or whatever, that they've had more time to let
- 49:01Speaker 1: it breathe in this episode, so the stakes feel a
- 49:03Speaker 1: lot more impactful, and then those little moments I feel
- 49:08Speaker 1: like that could have felt more final, and maybe then
- 49:13Speaker 1: in turn, had him showing up in the ice had
- 49:16Speaker 1: bit more impact in it because we just did see
- 49:18Speaker 1: him die, But it was just a little bit too quick,
- 49:22Speaker 1: like we needed him to get killed so that Barb
- 49:23Speaker 1: could then get shot, so that we could then go,
- 49:25Speaker 1: what do we do now? Because he was the cause
- 49:28Speaker 1: of the problem. Probably we've just killed him and he's
- 49:31Speaker 1: got all the answers that we need.
- 49:32Speaker 3: It was a very stargate hee to use a Midge
- 49:35Speaker 3: terminology for them to be walking across that they come
- 49:38Speaker 3: back from a different planet, different timeline. They walk across
- 49:41Speaker 3: the ice sheet and there's O'Neill. Yeah, that happened all
- 49:45Speaker 3: the time in those early seasons when they go through
- 49:49Speaker 3: the gate and come straight back, or they'd have no
- 49:51Speaker 3: memory of where they were, or something strange happens like that.
- 49:55Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just happened to be on maneuvers nearby
- 49:57Speaker 2: or something like that, and the the satellites detected the
- 50:02Speaker 2: wormhole and all that kind of stuff, and yeah, he
- 50:04Speaker 2: just happened to be sort of nearby doing that kind
- 50:06Speaker 2: of stuff. But just just going back to Daniel for
- 50:10Speaker 2: a second, I did love I think this was probably
- 50:13Speaker 2: his best sassy line out of the whole lot.
- 50:17Speaker 6: Are there any grown ups around that we could talk to?
- 50:20Speaker 3: When stransa idiot? Boys? The bag is like in two languages.
- 50:28Speaker 2: I loved his line when they have to leave him
- 50:30Speaker 2: behind in the ice, that sort of the pause and
- 50:32Speaker 2: the oh shit, like that moment of realization. I remember
- 50:35Speaker 2: that getting me so. But for all the good will
- 50:38Speaker 2: that Daniel builds up through this entire movie, it's all
- 50:42Speaker 2: thrown away with one line when we see the alkesh
- 50:46Speaker 2: and everyone starts calling and they called Daniel and he says, no,
- 50:50Speaker 2: I don't have a.
- 50:51Speaker 3: TV classic Daniel Jackson. Though, Daniel you pretentious? Remember when
- 50:59Speaker 3: he was suicide all in the light phantoms. Mm hmm, No,
- 51:05Speaker 3: fantom was an Atlanta's episode. They see they see the phantoms.
- 51:10Speaker 3: It was like they went, I can't remember, oh Legacy
- 51:12Speaker 3: when ends up in the padded room and he's on
- 51:15Speaker 3: the edge, he didn't have a TV in there. It
- 51:17Speaker 3: was just library in his apartment. They're packing up. They're like,
- 51:21Speaker 3: we've got to pack up all of this ship like
- 51:24Speaker 3: a musicum has a TV, a bunch of books and
- 51:27Speaker 3: a warm chie sitting there. Pieces from these days.
- 51:35Speaker 2: He's the kind of guy that goes into a cafe
- 51:36Speaker 2: and orders a chai with almond milk or something like that.
- 51:39Speaker 3: Or no, he's an oat milk guy. Isn't heat milk.
- 51:41Speaker 3: But even boy, even.
- 51:46Speaker 1: Sam, like, you know, she's starting to hit rock bottom. Obviously,
- 51:50Speaker 1: she said maybe I can eat ship food. Obviously, even
- 51:53Speaker 1: after a year, Daniel's like, no, I still will not
- 51:55Speaker 1: be rejecting myself to the idiot box, you know.
- 51:59Speaker 2: Like purchasing idiot box with my free money from the
- 52:02Speaker 2: US government, my stipend.
- 52:05Speaker 1: Whereas I just like Cam, like we only get a
- 52:07Speaker 1: brief sort of look at what his life has been.
- 52:09Speaker 1: He's just chilling away like a guy retired in his
- 52:11Speaker 1: own home, fixing up a car, and he's buying muscle cars, yeah,
- 52:14Speaker 1: chatting up bold love.
- 52:15Speaker 3: And then she leaves.
- 52:16Speaker 1: He's like, oh, boy, trouble, I'm going to be that
- 52:20Speaker 1: boy stepdady in a month.
- 52:23Speaker 3: Okay.
- 52:24Speaker 1: So the again timey wiminess of it, I mean, well,
- 52:28Speaker 1: for one, he goes and takes that muscle car and
- 52:30Speaker 1: drives back to the house and talks his way into
- 52:32Speaker 1: some other blokes you know, living room, and there's still
- 52:35Speaker 1: the picture of his grandfather there in the house. Like
- 52:38Speaker 1: he said, that was always there when his grandmother owned it.
- 52:41Speaker 1: But then someone else has owned it since then, and
- 52:44Speaker 1: now this guy who's been owning it for thirty five years,
- 52:47Speaker 1: but the picture still remains.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Well, you know, I feel like his family brought it
- 52:51Speaker 2: from the Henderson's but in like in his timeline and
- 52:55Speaker 2: then in this timeline, the Henderson sold it to Bigfoot
- 52:58Speaker 2: someone else.
- 52:59Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, to the guy that the guy that owned.
- 53:02Speaker 1: The house, he said he remembered that photo. All right,
- 53:04Speaker 1: it's not not that particular house, but he said he remember, no, no, that.
- 53:07Speaker 3: That's his childhood home. Yeah, that was his childhood home.
- 53:10Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he was saying, that he remembered the
- 53:13Speaker 1: like the photo of his grandfather standing in front of
- 53:17Speaker 1: that ship, that's where he That's where I remember it from, right,
- 53:19Speaker 1: And he said it was always I just I just
- 53:22Speaker 1: either way that that photo of his So okay, so
- 53:24Speaker 1: that was his childhood home. They bought it from the
- 53:27Speaker 1: Henderson's in his time.
- 53:29Speaker 3: In the timeline, I feel like the Mitchells never owned
- 53:33Speaker 3: that house. No, that was their border.
- 53:36Speaker 1: So but in the original timeline Henderson's into the Mitchell's.
- 53:39Speaker 3: Yes, the grand the grandfather died, didn't he bar killed him.
- 53:44Speaker 3: He didn't even exist. His mother or father were ever
- 53:47Speaker 3: a paternal grand grandfather. It was maternal grandfather.
- 53:50Speaker 2: He was pretty old, like as the Captain of the Achilles.
- 53:53Speaker 2: That man was pretty old, so he could have had
- 53:56Speaker 2: a family.
- 53:57Speaker 3: He came home after the war and bredit and had
- 54:01Speaker 3: a lot of cummy tissues.
- 54:04Speaker 1: But like the photo of him, the photo of him
- 54:06Speaker 1: in front of that ship existed in both timelines.
- 54:10Speaker 3: That the community. Yeah, so was it at the house? Yeah,
- 54:13Speaker 3: like that dude, have a's what I.
- 54:14Speaker 1: Mean, like just abusing part just before old mate said
- 54:18Speaker 1: you want to come and look at this alien shit
- 54:19Speaker 1: and TV boy, he was looking at a photo of
- 54:22Speaker 1: his grandfather, and I'm like, why is that therept because
- 54:25Speaker 1: I was thinking, oh, they owned the house and then
- 54:28Speaker 1: the Henderson's bought it. Not that the henderson either way, Like, yeah,
- 54:31Speaker 1: that photo should.
- 54:32Speaker 3: Not be there, So I don't know why it came
- 54:34Speaker 3: with the frame.
- 54:38Speaker 2: He came back from it and was a model in
- 54:41Speaker 2: my brain too, because it's been so long since I've
- 54:44Speaker 2: seen this. I think in my brain I was expecting
- 54:49Speaker 2: the Lieutenant Dan cam Mitchell that we saw in that
- 54:52Speaker 2: other alternate one from season ten or whatever, but I
- 54:55Speaker 2: forgot that.
- 54:56Speaker 3: There is no alternate cam Mitchell in this in this timeline.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Yeah, well, as Landry says, at least not one serving
- 55:04Speaker 2: in the US military thing like that. So I think, yeah,
- 55:07Speaker 2: you could, like, I mean, I hope that it is
- 55:08Speaker 2: the case that he actually doesn't exist, Like that's far
- 55:10Speaker 2: more that would be interesting.
- 55:11Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought it was because the
- 55:13Speaker 3: grandfather died, That's what I thought it was. Yeah, But yeah,
- 55:17Speaker 3: but I think you could you could, you know, you
- 55:21Speaker 3: could argue that.
- 55:22Speaker 2: Yeah, the Captain of the Achilles was quite old, so,
- 55:25Speaker 2: especially in the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties. He was
- 55:28Speaker 2: the equivalent of you know, rickety old man, like if
- 55:31Speaker 2: you don't have a kid by the time year twenty
- 55:33Speaker 2: back in those days, you're you know, yeah.
- 55:35Speaker 1: I mean without maybe that father figure that Cam's dads,
- 55:38Speaker 1: you know, just he just went off in a different path.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 55:40Speaker 2: You know. What I'm curious about, though, is what do
- 55:45Speaker 2: we think, Like at the end when our you know,
- 55:48Speaker 2: new version of Cam, he has that photo in his
- 55:52Speaker 2: locker and it's of him and Captain.
- 55:56Speaker 3: Like and his grandfather. I want to know, what does
- 55:59Speaker 3: Cam know about that photo?
- 56:00Speaker 2: What does he does he think that's his grandfather and
- 56:03Speaker 2: his great uncle or something like that, or well, that's
- 56:07Speaker 2: the story that I want to know, because I think there's.
- 56:11Speaker 3: Almost or maybe he's his own grandfather. Well that's what
- 56:15Speaker 3: I used to think. I remember when I first saw it.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Was he didn't do the version of Futurama. Where wherefore
- 56:26Speaker 2: I actually went back in his own grandmother to become
- 56:28Speaker 2: his own grandfather. But I kind of I think I
- 56:32Speaker 2: remember the first time I watched this, thinking, oh, the
- 56:36Speaker 2: original his original grandfather died and then he just took
- 56:39Speaker 2: the place of his grandfather in that I forgot that
- 56:43Speaker 2: actually have that moment I think I would have preferred
- 56:46Speaker 2: that because obviously Ben brown raised your own father. Yeah,
- 56:49Speaker 2: like Ben Browner, Ben played like Ben Bouder played both characters,
- 56:55Speaker 2: So why why would you do it unless you like,
- 56:57Speaker 2: unless you're going to do that, why have Ben Browner
- 57:00Speaker 2: play his own his own grandfather type situation?
- 57:04Speaker 3: So shit, Yeah, I mean just that as a thought,
- 57:08Speaker 3: This shows I wish I knew that song, yeah, because
- 57:12Speaker 3: it's I feel like I only saw the paradox itself,
- 57:16Speaker 3: like show up as a or the idea of the
- 57:18Speaker 3: explanation sorry.
- 57:19Speaker 1: Of how it would be quote unquote possible up is
- 57:23Speaker 1: like a meme on Insta or something the other day.
- 57:25Speaker 1: I don't know where it came.
- 57:26Speaker 3: From, but it is an episode of futurema It literally happens.
- 57:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm thinking of that. What is that
- 57:31Speaker 1: movie called literally Tom Arnold?
- 57:33Speaker 2: Right?
- 57:33Speaker 3: I just pulled it up on my phone. It's definitely
- 57:35Speaker 3: his grandfather in that house or wait, that's black and white? Though?
- 57:41Speaker 3: Is that Cam's memory?
- 57:43Speaker 2: Because when Cam gets to the to the outside of
- 57:46Speaker 2: the house, he asked to come inside because he says
- 57:49Speaker 2: there's an image in his head that he can't shake.
- 57:52Speaker 2: So that that was bullshit about getting back into the house.
- 57:55Speaker 2: But is that what it is is he has a
- 57:57Speaker 2: he has a memory of, Yeah, that photo on the.
- 58:01Speaker 3: If you look real close on the mantlepiece, it's actually
- 58:05Speaker 3: a different photo in the frame on the wide shot right.
- 58:08Speaker 3: And then when it's a close up, Yeah, that's in
- 58:10Speaker 3: his mind because it's been color created. They zoom into
- 58:12Speaker 3: his head, zoomed to Cam's face, and then they switched
- 58:16Speaker 3: to the to the frame clo. That makes me see that.
- 58:20Speaker 3: Then when they cut back to the wide shot, it's
- 58:22Speaker 3: actually some cowboy dude.
- 58:24Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, okay, that makes more because like Brad did
- 58:28Speaker 2: not pick that. Brad Right is so good with time travel.
- 58:30Speaker 2: I feel like he wouldn't make that kind of mistake.
- 58:32Speaker 2: But obviously in the edit they should have maybe done
- 58:36Speaker 2: a little sound of you know, I made it more prominent.
- 58:39Speaker 2: That's it's we're seeing Cam's memory of the photo on
- 58:44Speaker 2: the mantelpiece from when he.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Was He's not considering stupid people like me are watching this.
- 58:48Speaker 3: I thought that too well to be fair.
- 58:50Speaker 2: When I was watching this, because I have to watch
- 58:52Speaker 2: at my desk because I grab body. I was I
- 58:54Speaker 2: was coloring in my adult coloring book that said go
- 58:56Speaker 2: yourself like I was coloring that in while I was
- 58:59Speaker 2: watching it, and then he was only during the audio
- 59:02Speaker 2: commentary that I watched like that I was actually watching it.
- 59:06Speaker 2: And then because I didn't actually see the one year
- 59:08Speaker 2: later the first.
- 59:09Speaker 3: Time I.
- 59:11Speaker 1: I nearly missed it too. It I'm like, even I've
- 59:12Speaker 1: already seen this, I'm glad that I didn't.
- 59:14Speaker 2: Yes, like that, Yeah, because yeah, I don't think I've
- 59:17Speaker 2: seen Continuum since we started this podcast.
- 59:20Speaker 3: I think the last time I saw it was when
- 59:22Speaker 3: we started the Bolted yeah, seven years ago.
- 59:27Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'd be really interested to know what what
- 59:30Speaker 2: the family story is that's been passed down in terms
- 59:33Speaker 2: of that photo now in terms of Cam essentially looking
- 59:37Speaker 2: at an alternate timeline, alternate reality version of himself and
- 59:40Speaker 2: his actual grandfather.
- 59:42Speaker 3: Who I love him now because what I would have Yeah,
- 59:49Speaker 3: So like in the.
- 59:51Speaker 2: What actually happens in Continuum is Sam sends him back
- 59:55Speaker 2: ten years prior he goes back to nineteen twenty nine.
- 59:57Speaker 2: That's not till nineteen thirty nine that the actual boat
- 59:59Speaker 2: trip is happening or whatever. I almost would love that
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: he was sent back at the same time or whatever,
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: so Cam was able to get on the boat or whatever.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: But wasn't able to get there in time to stop
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: his grandfather being killed, but took his grandfather's place in
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: terms of being the one to make sure that the
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: you know, kill ball, make sure the bomb doesn't you know,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: blow up the ship and all.
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: That kind gets back and make sure his grandmother complications.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: You don't think they still not to create a child, mate,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: Cam Mitchell was born in nineteen sixty nine. I know
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: you're very religious, mate, but people, people don't only have
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: sex to procreate.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that, but we're talking about Cam didn't
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: have to go back in his own grandmother to make
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: sure that his.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: Father were talking about talking about it was just the
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: idea he gets back from. I think you're right, he
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: probably didn't have to. How long How long potentially has
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: he been on that ship? Like back then, your man,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: you're on boats for months? He gets back. What were
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: you saying? Cam's grandma doesn't doesn't still want a piece,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: and he's.
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: Half a sleep to the foragers like no, no, no, no,
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: not today, not today.
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: Sorry, I've got a headache.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: For sorry, he'd be homelessen next next time you go
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: to get it and then and pops to check the bees.
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: I'm going to have a few questions for you afterwards.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: What do you mean see which one of your grandparents
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: shooking up with?
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: He didn't go back in time.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Yet yet, Everyone's beautiful.
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: You don't need to go back in time. You guys
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: want to play a game, You don't need to go
- 1:01:51Speaker 3: back in time.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: No. I was just trying to do the math, because
- 1:01:54Speaker 2: if you think about it, Cam, we know Cam was
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: born in nineteen sixty nine. Yeah, so his father would
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: have been born in what now we're talking baby, were
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: talking Grandma?
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: I mean, but that's even that's even late. That's even late.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: I suppose to be having a kid at thirty in
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: those days. So maybe he was. Maybe he was born
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: in you know, they.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: Could have been second, third, or fourth kid, you know.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: Like accident after the war. Nearly died on that ship. Yeah,
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: talk about a wormhole. You don't know what I went through.
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: Talk about a moon base? God? Yeah, Hey, he's want
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: to play a fun little game. Sure, so I've made something.
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: What makes a film different from a TV show? Some
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: say it's budget, Others point to cinematography or pacing, but
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: one defining factor is the score. The music beneath the
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: action that shapes how audiences feel and remember the story.
- 1:03:26Speaker 3: This segment is dedicated to the glat Great Joel Goldsmith.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: If Stargate viewers don't know Joel Goldsmith by name, they
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: will undoubtedly recognize his work as the principal composer for
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: Stargate SG One, Stargate Atlantis, Arc of Truth, Stargate Continuance,
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: Stargate Universe. While David Arnold composed the score for the
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: original Stargate motion picture, Joel Goldsmith did not just simply
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: reuse or adapt that work. Joel created original scores, emotional cues,
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: nostalgic themes, and action motifs that defined Stargate for more
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: than a decade. Joel took Arnold's foundation and made the
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: TV series uniquely his own. He dedicated over thirteen years
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: of his career to Stargate, and his impact on the
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: series continues to resonate. For If you immediately know the
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: Candlelighters fire, Joel Goldsmith probably composed it a long time ago.
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: Goldsmith received three Emmy Award nominations for Outstanding Music Composition
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: for a Series, among his work on the franchise Stargate
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: Continuum stands out as a pinnacle of his scoring achievements,
- 1:06:10Speaker 3: including the fan favorite title The List where the remaining
- 1:06:15Speaker 3: Toekra chorus list the entirety of Baal Sins. Before his
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: work on Stargate, John Goldsmith composed across a range of genres.
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: Within those early scores, subtle music ideas can be heard
- 1:06:38Speaker 3: that would later echo throughout the Stargate saga. Listen to
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: these excerpts from three of his early films, nineteen eighty
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: three The Mammoth Two Brains starring Steve Martin, in nineteen
- 1:07:00Speaker 3: ninety three's Joshua Tree with Dolph Longren, and possibly the
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: best of all Maniac cop three, Badge of Silence featuring
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: Robert Darvey. His work also includes the Untouchables TV series.
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety six, Joel collaborated with his father, Academy
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: Award winning composer Jerry Goldsmith on Star Trek First Contact Alone,
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: That's Fun Fun. Joel composed much of the music related
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: to the bog including the iconic flight of the Phoenix sequence.
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: Joel Goldsmith passed away in April twenty twelve at the
- 1:08:07Speaker 3: age of fifty four at his home in Hidden Hills, California.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: His music remains a lasting legacy that continues to inspire
- 1:08:17Speaker 3: Stargate audiences worldwide. So after that feature out, I wanted
- 1:08:26Speaker 3: to play this game. So it is the Sounds of
- 1:08:30Speaker 3: Stargate game version in honor of Joel Goldsmith. The idea
- 1:08:34Speaker 3: of this game is, we play about five to ten
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: seconds of music, and you tell me what episode it's from.
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: Oh do I get baby? Could we buzz in or
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: do we just want to it out?
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: Put your hand up and then maybe we can do
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: well should we say our name? Is that going to
- 1:08:52Speaker 2: work better for an audio purpose?
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: Good idea to do that. Man, name is your buzzer? Okay,
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: all right, So I reckon these are actually you wouldn't
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: believe it, but I reckon you'll get most of these.
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: These are gimmis, absolute gimmis. Mate, you don't get I'd
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: be surprised.
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: Now, Mattie's you said that, I'm the scores guy. Yeah,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: I love me some music.
- 1:09:13Speaker 3: I'm gonna be bat in zero.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: Well, actually, before we get to this, just on that
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: because you brought it up, you and Brad Wright peas
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: in a pod score nerds. I just had this little
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: tiny clip from the audio commentary of brad just nerding
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: out over the score.
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: Okay, but the skew is great.
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: He does it a couple of times. He basically tells
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: Martin would to shush so they could hear the score.
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: And then there was a there was a moment when
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: Carter and.
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: Mitchell walking through the snow and they make some joke
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: about a polar bear because while they were filming at
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: the actual you know, Antarctic or whatever, Arctic Antarctic, just
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: off camera there's people with guns on polar Bear watch.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: That was a real that was a real thing. But
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: during that seed apparently Joel says to Brad Right in
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: the eddit, he goes, man, your polar bed joke is
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: really stepping on my score.
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: So Brad Right got rid of the polar bed joke.
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I did hear that. Yeah yeah, they got
- 1:10:14Speaker 3: rid of the dialogue just to keep the score going.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: Yeah, because he loved it so much. Sorry, keep going
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: so anyway that I liked that as an intro to
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: this game.
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: Nice. Alright, your buzzer name is your buzzer? Let's play?
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: And is it? Is it Stargate only It's only Stargate Okay, alright, yep,
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: only Star get. I'm gonna turn my headphones. I'll say
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: only Stargate SG one Okay, okay, just to get your
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: head in the zone. Okay, all right, number one, Hi bitch,
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: the fifth Race incorrect? Okay, do I get another? Go?
- 1:11:09Speaker 3: It goes to me. Yeah, I'm gonna give you a shot.
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: No, I got no idea, absolutely no idea.
- 1:11:15Speaker 3: I'll give you a hint.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: I got two, I got okay, tickets the Knox, No
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: torment of Tendalus.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: No, it's a sad one. You want to play it again,
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: cold Lazarus, not that sad You and I got shdon
- 1:11:32Speaker 3: exact same? How to get it? So many wrongs to
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: call it out. This one is Meridian. Oh. This is
- 1:11:45Speaker 3: when they're talking to Daniel Raw just before he's about
- 1:11:49Speaker 3: to trget. All right. I think it's funny. I don't
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: remember a lot of the music from Ridian.
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: I always associate it with the next episode when like
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: Jack like did the gust of in before he gets
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: on the on the lift at the end.
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably should have tried to get the end bit,
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: which you actually put in the what was it the
- 1:12:10Speaker 3: end of season spectacular My Life? Yeah, your previous Yeah, yeah,
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: that would have That would have given away too much,
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: I think. But anyway, maybe I should have done that.
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: Number two, God damn it, high pitch one hundred days. Wow,
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: well done. Nice, that's crazy, bitch. Okay, you're ready. Number three,
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: this is gimme high pitch, serpens.
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: That's where it ends.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Think of a choir, think of a certain type of religion. Oh,
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: I ad more recently or early seasons. There's an in it.
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: I was about to say the demon comes, the Demon
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: comes demons. Correct, I couldn't remember that was the name
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: of the episode comes all right. Number four absolute gimmy, hi, bitch, incorrect.
- 1:13:53Speaker 3: Listen to a famous I would have said, like.
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: The window of opportunity, but it's like one of a
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: hundred yeahses to take place at the dinner.
- 1:14:06Speaker 3: But I'm just picturing the what do you think you
- 1:14:08Speaker 3: know that moment? Exactly the moment? All right? Final one?
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: Number five sounds early. I'll give you a hint. Mitch
- 1:14:32Speaker 3: won't get it first one and then he got it.
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: That's your first spoiler. That's where's your love for that episode?
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: So you have already covered that episode now, GOLs.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: That was fun anyway. Shout out to Joe Goldsmith just
- 1:15:01Speaker 3: one of the great, absolutely great. He didn't just you know,
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: strap off the original score from Stargate. He made all
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: of those things. Yeah, it's pretty special what he actually did.
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: Even just with like and he's dead.
- 1:15:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was.
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: In one of the recent Atlantis episodes, an old mate
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: uh ghiro he he talks about, oh he he wanted
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: us a particular sound for this one shot or whatever.
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: Joel had already done something for it, and he goes, nah,
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: that's not what I want. Do this instead, and Joel's like,
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: that's not what you want, and he goes and then
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: giro Goo will do it anyway, So he does it,
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: and then mong Go goes, oh no, yours was better.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: No ship right, He's like he's he's like, he's royalty
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: when it comes to that kind of stuff.
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: I'm seven thinking about like that he comes from good stock, Yeah,
- 1:15:55Speaker 3: but the classic Gould music.
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: But then even how it's able to be adjusted slightly
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: depending on which gold system that we're dealing with, But
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: you could hear that and go oh yeah that's the
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: apophous one and that's the Yeah. That's so it's just crazy,
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: like to have their their entire race have its own sounds.
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: But then within that there are there are like chapters
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: of that I don't know, like it's it's always had
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: just great score the entire show, so like for him
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: to set that framework, Yeah, it's like it's it's under
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: soul because we've said it for ten season's worth of
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: this show and more with with s G A and
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: and talked about you know what we like about a
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: Martin Wood or a brad Ryde or a Delawase or
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: something like what he brings with humor and then what
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: the others bring with homages and stuff.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: But yeah, we probably got all your favorite stuff. You're
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: you know, you're the candle.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: What is it if you immediately the candlelighters fire, the
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: meals cooked a long time ago.
- 1:16:50Speaker 3: You're pan pan flute. Yeah, what I was looking for,
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: that's all Jerry.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I'm gonna fire off a couple of rapid fire.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: It's a trivia for everybody one. This movie was shot
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: in nineteen days. I thought it was pretty good. It
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: wasn't eighteen for Arch of Truth something like that.
- 1:17:18Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: I listened to the podcast.
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: In the Shot of the Achilles when Sam Carter, Sam,
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: Sam Daniel and Mitchell all come onto the Frozen Achilles.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: It is lit purely by their torches, like their flashlights,
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: but don't count them because there's two more than there's
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: five flashlights, one being held by Martin Wood and one being.
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: Held by the director photography.
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: So that's actually being lit just by five flashlights even
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: though there's only three people in the room. That's cool,
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: So Martino, yeah, Martin Wood says, don't count. Don't count
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: how any lights you see, but it is purely lit
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: by that.
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: But I at one stage I thought was there something
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: that I was supposed to see because it get quickly
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: lit up and then it would disappear, and I was like,
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: keep my eye on that side of the screen waiting,
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: And I'm like, now that was just the frenetic nature
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: of them.
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, looking around and that like that.
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: I love all that. You know, lighting is one of
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: the hardest things to get right in anything that people film,
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: but like, I love the frenetic nature of the realism
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: rather that that adds.
- 1:18:17Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because mont Would says he always likes to
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: shoot in three, three and sixty degrees, so lighting for him,
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: you have to make sure that everything is exactly what
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: it needs to be.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no there's no turnaround. Uh. Donn S.
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: Davis died exactly one month before this was released on
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: the Region one DVD, so he never got to see
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: it to put a little bit of levity into it.
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: And we've mentioned this before. He died in Gibson's Canada.
- 1:18:47Speaker 3: Uh. And on top of that, he was born in Missouri.
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: It can't happen.
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, come on, so West. Yeah,
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: he is the best tawn out for the late great
- 1:19:05Speaker 2: Donnas Davis.
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: Uh.
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: Something else of note too.
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there was there's no time in this
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: movie to explore or like the people wouldn't really know
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: about it. But obviously in that alternate version of Earth,
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: Hathor is still on Earth somewhere o Cyrus Cyrus Osirius
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: is still in the somewhere Seth has still got And
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: in Dirty Bugger, Martin Lloyd is still being drugged by
- 1:19:35Speaker 2: his shipmates and he's still a conspiracy theory nut. Wow.
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess Jacob Carter I probably died of cancer. Yeah,
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: long ago, So what about nineteen sixty nine didn't happen?
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: So George Hammond, he just stayed at Shine Mountain forever
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: for no reason. Well, he wasn't at Shining Mountain. He
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: that's true, he was working for the president. Oh yeah,
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: there was no Stargate command.
- 1:20:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: Nice SETI drip.
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: Even just like again, it's something that these these sort
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: of stories, whether this show or not, have covered. But
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: I kind of got a bit more on fairt of it,
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: or maybe just from this show having that conversation with
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: with Landry going like the arrogance of what you're asking us,
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but you know, we're watching it
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: from their point of view, Like yeah, but they're right,
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: and this is the alternate timeline. It's like, yeah, but
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: not to us, bro, Like for the last seventy odd years,
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: this is the freaking timeline, Like how how dare you?
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: And even when he leaves you, I'm only go back
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: to my wife and I like, oh, that's nice, Like
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: because that's not what you've got back in the original timeline.
- 1:20:42Speaker 3: You've probably got a great relationship with your kid.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: And you're still married Stargate. Well, I guess it's the
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: same with with with Jack's kids, like you know anything
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: that yeah, Like I don't know, like just even I
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: guess the idea of the you know, the gate being
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: being moved to show out and way back when and
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: just the military personnel moving around, and maybe Jack was
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: away at a particular time that his kid got, you know,
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: into a bike accident that sort of you know, didn't send.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: He's like, it's a whole and it's weird because I'm
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: watching this going, oh, the guys were so nice to me,
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: Like way back when I was talking about an episode
- 1:21:15Speaker 1: that I'd always had my mind about about Jack, you know,
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: being spoken to by some kind of great entity or something,
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: and he would have to live through it, like, hey,
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: we can. After all this time, he still just would
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: always obviously think about Charlie and it's like, well we can.
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: We can make it that Charlie never died and that
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: you never but then you would never join Stargate, and
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: then all this sort of shit would happen. And I'm like, oh,
- 1:21:35Speaker 1: that's kind of like not what happened in this in
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: this movie, but Charlie was still alive and the Stargate
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: program didn't exist, and we do see what happened. Oh,
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: it's weird how much I remembered loving Continuum and the
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: fact that it was time travel, that it was Baal
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: and that things got misplaced, but not the particulars of it,
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: and that that would kind of be made redundant, that
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: idea for an entirely separate episode, let alone movie. But
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: even in the Arc of Truth, when I actually forget now,
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: I was looking up and found the third proposed movie
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: that wasn't the SGA one, That was actually an SG
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: one one, you said, young, No it was.
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: It was an Atlantis one. The third movie was going
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: to be yeah direction or something.
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but we've covered that, but didn't I In
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: the in the Our Arc of Truth podcast, I thought
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: I actually had found another one.
- 1:22:25Speaker 3: Again, I don't have to do with SG one I
- 1:22:27Speaker 3: think about. I don't think they ever wrote anything. And
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: the next one was going to be Stargate Atlantis one.
- 1:22:33Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember Joe Flanagan years later tried to
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: buy the script so that he wasn't allowed it could
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: afford it. I don't know what the situation was. Was
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: not for sale or anything like that.
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame because like again, you come in saying, oh,
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: I remember first watch Love Dark of Truth Moore, whereas
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: I wonder how much how many times I'd watched either
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: of these before this rerun, I might have only ever
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: watched them once each and liked Continue more. And it
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: might have been because it was a more standalone episode
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: as opposed to Ark of Truth. Yeah, wrapping stuff up
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: from season ten and the time travel stuff. Time travel
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: stuff was always great, yeah you know, or I just like, yeah,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: all of it that made me love it, and the
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: throwback and having everyone come back from from seasons and
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: seasons of SG one that I loved Continue a lot more.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: But then when we.
- 1:23:20Speaker 3: Rewatched Arc of Truth, however many.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: Episodes ago, I was like, Oh, this is actually a
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: lot better than what I've given it credit for in
- 1:23:26Speaker 1: my memories.
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: It's just a shame though, watching that.
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: We talk about the great establishing shot from Ark of Truth,
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: and then the way that this is shot and framed
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: and it has scope and how they get to play
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: around with size, and even as a as a viewer,
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: I think like, it hasn't been that long since we've
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: watched some SG one, But seeing these characters pop back
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: up again with Goldsmith's score and I'm.
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, we're back.
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: How good?
- 1:23:51Speaker 3: And it is a shame to go.
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: This wasn't designed to be the last movie, but it
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: was the last movie, and what could they have done
- 1:23:58Speaker 1: with more two hour time frames and and the ability
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: to tell slower stories. You know, they've had double episodes,
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: but we still have to have sort of like a
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: forty two minute structure per half of two episodes. And
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: it's just a shame that we didn't get more of these, because.
- 1:24:15Speaker 3: That would going the movie route would actually make more
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: money for studios. I don't know how. Yeah, yea, because
- 1:24:22Speaker 3: the DVD sales, especially in that period, DVDs were the
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: biggest rage. Yeah, well I already set fandom. Who is
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: going to buy DVDs?
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what's a cheap work TV? Or go out
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: there and commit to paying thirty bucks for it?
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: I think I read that, you know, a normal episode
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: of s G one cost about two million dollars. You know,
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: so you mentioned twenty times that you know, a season
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: arc of Truth costs seven million dollars continue and cost
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: seven million dollars total for the whole thing. I'm able
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: to tell such such a larger story, and more of
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: an epic story. It does make me wonder if maybe
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: it was just the falling ratings of Atlantis under if
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: maybe because I think there was also some some rumblings
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: that it's like, well sci Fi wasn't willing to have
- 1:25:08Speaker 2: two shows, like they weren't willing to commit to to
- 1:25:11Speaker 2: Stargate shows at once anymore because of the ratings.
- 1:25:13Speaker 3: So they kind of Yeah, so they kind of canceled.
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: Atlantis so that they were green light Universe, and I
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: think they probably put their sites hard on on Universe. Yeah,
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: they kind of went well with his this new show.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: We can do this new show that's going to revamp
- 1:25:31Speaker 2: the the franchise. It's just just like Battlestar Galactica turns
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: out Stargate fans, you know, they like Stargate.
- 1:25:41Speaker 3: There's there's already Battlestar Galactica that exists. We don't need. Yeah.
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think there was a lot of
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: your business stuff going on the the guy that is
- 1:25:52Speaker 2: pushing Daniel Jackson in this movie, like after Daniel loses
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: his leg whatever. I think maybe when he gets wheeled
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: out into the the hospital, no, no, into the big
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: thing where they meet with Landry what's it called the
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: Big hangar Hanger?
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: I believe they said that the doctor that Wills met
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: is actually was like the head of MGM, and that
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: was his little caming because he was a huge Stargate
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: fan and the Brad Wright said this continue wouldn't exist
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: without him him championing it and letting it happen. So
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: and I think you know Brad has said that in
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: the in the more recent years, is he doesn't have
- 1:26:27Speaker 2: any contacts at MGM anymore. There's no one, there's no
- 1:26:30Speaker 2: champion there going, well, if we're going to bring back Starget,
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: we need to get Brad back to do it, and
- 1:26:34Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. He just it's with all
- 1:26:36Speaker 2: the changeover and handover and stuff like that, no one,
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: no one who works at him gym is invested in
- 1:26:41Speaker 2: the franchise.
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: Yeah, so they want to know how long it's going
- 1:26:43Speaker 1: to sit.
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: Like even producers and movie studios inside they're so bad
- 1:26:49Speaker 3: at their job. Yeah, it's terrible. And then yeah, we
- 1:26:54Speaker 3: want four quadron appeal, you know, like just let something
- 1:26:58Speaker 3: find it. Yeah yeah, and then like you know, it's
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: it's a completely different thing.
- 1:27:04Speaker 1: But they've obviously through MTM they've got the hands Amazon
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: that got the hands on that I really give a
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: shit about, and that's Bond and that's scared the ship
- 1:27:11Speaker 1: out of me. Once the Broccolis relinquished creative control. That
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: scared I mean not just me, thousands millions of Bond
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: fans around the world. Scared the shit out of me
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's it was a family run business
- 1:27:22Speaker 1: up until a couple of months ago. Every like big
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: creative decision directors that will hired scripts that were approved,
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: maybe not final cuts, but like that's why those movies
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: generally speaking, whether you love or you hate them, they
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: like were you know, Okay, the craig Ones were definitely
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: different than the brozen and ones or whatever, but like
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: generally they were all the same sort of ilk and
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: and that was the quality control basically was up to
- 1:27:45Speaker 1: the to the Broccolies. And then now it's like, okay, fine,
- 1:27:48Speaker 1: it's over to Bezos and Crew, and that scared of.
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: The sort I wish I had the audio of Peter
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: Deloiz when he says, brocoln it's just a fun word.
- 1:27:56Speaker 3: Funny word down to Bezer from the creators that brought
- 1:28:01Speaker 3: you celebrities in speech.
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: But then recently, I mean, you're going back wow now.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: But you know, there was all the talk about okay,
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: what directors, and it's like, oh, we're going to get
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: this director, this director, director, and all of a sudden
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: they come out and go and I'm like, oh shit, okay,
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: well that's a statement, Like it's one thing to go.
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: Amazon are going to just start pumping out, you know,
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: content around the James Bond franchise. We're going to have
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: a money for God's sake, absolutely the cartoon, bring it
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: to life for God's say, you know exactly. But like
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: you bring in Denie and off the back of him,
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: like you know, a bat in a thousand, everything he's
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: been doing, he'll have wrapped up the third part of June,
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: going straight into a Bond movie, probably with full creative
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: or at least most of it. You're like, okay, well
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: that says something. You've got people that are in charge.
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: I think it's like some people that used to work
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: at I think It's Bond that there used to be
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: part of the like Toby maguire Spider Man franchise, and
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: also people that were in charge of Harry Potter the films.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, there was a lot of care
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: put into those two franchises. And we're going back twenty
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: years is maybe twenty five, nearly thirty. By the time
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: the Bond movie gets made. But if those people are
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: are still relatively the same sort of creative heads and
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: they have the same sort of respect for the ip
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: they're dealing with, that's a great thing. It's like good, good, good.
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: So who's that going to be for Stargate? And is
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: Amazon they're not going to care anywhere near as much
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: about Stargate as what they will about Bond for reasons
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: that Bond is one.
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: Of them because they did the Lord of the Rings.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: They that, Yeah, I've still that that was awesome. I
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: watched the first time I wanted to make Stargate. Yeah,
- 1:29:29Speaker 3: I actually doesn't it.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: That we've got like money money owns Stargate at the moment,
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: like endless money in Amazon. You're like, I don't know that.
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: In a way, in a way, I'm happy that this
- 1:29:41Speaker 2: was the last Stargate film in that it was we
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: kind of went out on a high in a way
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: in that it was a brad right written. Yep, Martin
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: would direct it, like that's that's up there, And you know, Brendan,
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: you missed out on a couple of weeks ago. Is
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: Martin would he he obviously directed this, you know, before
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: finishing up season four of Less, he's not in season
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: five Atlantis. You know he went He went with Carter
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: on too Sanctuary, so you know they were gone.
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: So I do like that this was, you know, in
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: a way, going out on a high, even though do
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: we do have universe to come. But something that's quite
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: interesting is the creation of this movie. As much as
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: you know, Brad right, you know, says that we've had
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: to do with the you know, the the head on
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: sure that he knew at MGM and stuff like that,
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: it also had to do with the fandom. So the
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: whole thing with the submarine, which was a real submarine
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: in the real Arctic that they used. Fans approached not Brad,
- 1:30:39Speaker 2: but I think maybe Martin or someone else at a
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: convention and said, hey, could you use a submarine for Stargate?
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: And then they took that to Brad and Brad went yeah.
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: So when Brad, when Brad sat down to write this,
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: he knew that he wanted to write a time time
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: travel story, and he knew that he had access to
- 1:31:03Speaker 2: a nuclear.
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: Submarine that's insane.
- 1:31:05Speaker 2: And then based on the US Navy or whatever donating
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: or offering up the submarine, he then spoke to the
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: US Air Force, who they've always been working with for
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: a decade and went, hey, the Navy's giving us a
- 1:31:19Speaker 2: nuclear sub So then the Air Force went, well, he
- 1:31:23Speaker 2: had these two you know, fifteen hornets or whatever they were.
- 1:31:27Speaker 2: So the shots where you've got SG one in those hornets,
- 1:31:31Speaker 2: they're on a tarmac being towed around a tarmac in
- 1:31:34Speaker 2: real jets in the US, and they're just cheating it
- 1:31:39Speaker 2: up just so that you could just see the see
- 1:31:41Speaker 2: the sky and stuff like that, and that shit. Brad
- 1:31:43Speaker 2: Wright actually.
- 1:31:43Speaker 3: Got into it. There's a moment where he's one of
- 1:31:47Speaker 3: the escort pilots. But have a listen to this.
- 1:31:49Speaker 2: This is where they talk about the submarine and actually
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: getting it to breach in the Arctic.
- 1:31:57Speaker 6: When we were shout this, okay, there's a huge, massive story.
- 1:31:59Speaker 6: I can't on this.
- 1:32:01Speaker 4: We had to shoot the submarine coming up. We shot
- 1:32:04Speaker 4: it three different times. We missed it twice and through
- 1:32:07Speaker 4: no fault of our own, by the way, we were
- 1:32:09Speaker 4: submarine missed the The submarine missed the X once and
- 1:32:11Speaker 4: then it came up early the second time. But we
- 1:32:15Speaker 4: go real ice science, real Los Angeles class submarine.
- 1:32:19Speaker 6: This is the first time it's ever been done in
- 1:32:21Speaker 6: a movie. Yeah, and I have to tell you that.
- 1:32:24Speaker 6: Let's see you Kambernaki and his crew were unbelievable to us.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: They hit the X.
- 1:32:32Speaker 4: This has never happened at Appolis before, which is where
- 1:32:35Speaker 4: we were the ice camp at Barry Campbell and I'll
- 1:32:36Speaker 4: talk about him in a second.
- 1:32:38Speaker 6: They do this every couple of years.
- 1:32:40Speaker 4: That's an actual three hundred and seventy five fifty ton
- 1:32:44Speaker 4: submarine that just came up through the ice for us.
- 1:32:47Speaker 6: And when the captain brought that up, this is the
- 1:32:49Speaker 6: third attempt on this day.
- 1:32:51Speaker 4: We've been there for four and a half hours, the
- 1:32:53Speaker 4: third attempt at coming up and he hit the X
- 1:32:55Speaker 4: right on and through the hydrophone you hear this.
- 1:32:57Speaker 6: Sound that was for Hollywood. That is the man who
- 1:33:02Speaker 6: got us there.
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: Thank you, Barry.
- 1:33:04Speaker 4: Yes, he's he's came to us at at a convention
- 1:33:08Speaker 4: once and said, how did you guys like to go
- 1:33:09Speaker 4: to a North pol We talked Brad about it.
- 1:33:11Speaker 6: Brad said, yes, just.
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: Like that, that's so cool, so cool, because yeah, just
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: I mean that when that like, yeah, the breach happens
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: it again, probably because it was something different, but again
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: because you didn't know all of a sudden, you see
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: these two people walking, obviously one of them being O'Neil,
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, what's this going to lead from?
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: Where's the base and here's your ride going up? And
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: then just seeing them walk through the halls and eve
- 1:33:33Speaker 1: when O'Neill left and said they can have food, they
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: can have water, they can do this, blah blah blah,
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: and then just like goes down the hallway and yeah,
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: that's real, man, Look at all that Yea's just so
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: funny much about it, just so tangible. It just adds
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: so much to it.
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: The bridge was real, that hallway was real.
- 1:33:49Speaker 2: The room where Daniel is on the bed a set, yeah,
- 1:33:53Speaker 2: but designed to look like the room in the.
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: In the Submarine.
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: But the fact that I would just say able to
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: cut back so seamlessly between the because obviously Michael Shanks
- 1:34:05Speaker 2: wasn't available to go to.
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: The Arctic to do any of that kind of stuff,
- 1:34:09Speaker 3: you twenty four.
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: So yeah, just the fact that I come back and forth,
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: I said before we have to come back. I have
- 1:34:15Speaker 1: no memory of that.
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: Yeah, my Love show.
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: I've never rewatched it, but I don't remember him being
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: in it.
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: You guys were the were the well, they're not extras
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: in the show yet, Like the captain of the boat
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: is the captain of the boat in real life, Like
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: he gives him the order. Yeah, you can tell by
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: the delivery. Yeah. Perfect. But also they said.
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: There was a moment where Martin Wood was obviously directing
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: the scene and he said, okay, up the periscope whatever,
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: and then you know, they cut or whatever, and then
- 1:34:50Speaker 2: the first office of the first mate set took Brad
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: right Martin Wood aside. He goes, you do realize you're
- 1:34:56Speaker 2: the only person to ever order that periscope up aside
- 1:34:59Speaker 2: from the cap Wow.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: And he's like wow.
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: So what he did as a as a make good
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: is he let the captain call action action and cut
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: on a scene.
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: And it was the scene where.
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: Richardianison is walking down the hallway and he called cut
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: too soon because they wanted to get a da walking
- 1:35:18Speaker 2: further down there, and the captain called cut too soon.
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: And then you have to tell the captain that he
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: did it wrong. Yeah, and we have to do it again.
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: That's cool, that's hilarious. Or three episodes of season six,
- 1:35:32Speaker 3: one of the great twenty four episodes, Yeah, one and
- 1:35:36Speaker 3: twenty two season six. I want to say that that
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: was Saturday one.
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: He paid the He played in the pivotal one am
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: to four am spots of season six of twenty four.
- 1:35:48Speaker 3: He played a character named Mark Bishop.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, Bishop, I want to say. Season six is
- 1:35:54Speaker 1: when Jack's Dads May Not.
- 1:35:58Speaker 2: Season six, episode twenty A synopsis reads a missing computer
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: circuit board, the Russians. The Russians get wind of Chinese spies.
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: The White House must find a leak. The CTU interrogates
- 1:36:10Speaker 2: an unlikely witness.
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: Wow, what else is boring? Yeah? Right, that's that's more
- 1:36:15Speaker 3: twenty four than I've absorbed in its entire run. That
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: and boo boo yeah in the snap zooms, I actually
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: got motion sickness from trying to watch that show. I
- 1:36:28Speaker 3: just got sick sickness watching that show. I was, I was,
- 1:36:34Speaker 3: I was O'Neill. I was just like, I've never been
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: the most bored person that's ever been born in their
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: entire life.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: Apparently brad Wright said he stole that from I think
- 1:36:43Speaker 2: he's aid Joe Malatzi or Paul Mulley, but they were
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: at lunch and the line was, I am the most
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: hungry any person has ever been in their entire life.
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: And then the other line where Baal is, where he's like,
- 1:36:57Speaker 2: there is a god standing here with wet hands.
- 1:37:00Speaker 3: That actually that actually happened to Brad right for a
- 1:37:03Speaker 3: like you said that.
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: A producer he used to work for said, there is
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: a producer standing here with wet hands.
- 1:37:10Speaker 3: Wet hands over there, anyway, call him wet hands forever,
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: there is a god standing here with wet hand what
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: there's plenty of Oh yeah, okay, dokey. Time for some
- 1:37:28Speaker 3: break two segment, round round two of it's obviously I
- 1:37:37Speaker 3: have not We'll leave that one in. All right, are
- 1:37:42Speaker 3: you ready, Mitch? You got your paper? There? I do
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: another what's seven questions? Another seven questions. I'll go through
- 1:37:50Speaker 3: the questions and then we'll do the answers in the
- 1:37:52Speaker 3: end neil By's lunch entitled credits all right. Quest eight
- 1:38:02Speaker 3: after the go I will arrive? What does Daniel say
- 1:38:04Speaker 3: is coming? Next? After the go I will arrive? What
- 1:38:10Speaker 3: does Daniel Jackson say is coming next? Question number nine?
- 1:38:18Speaker 3: How long does katesh say it has been since she's
- 1:38:21Speaker 3: left Ball's side? This is a there is a great answer,
- 1:38:29Speaker 3: by the way, how long does Kates say it has
- 1:38:32Speaker 3: been since she left Ball's side. Question ten, what message
- 1:38:37Speaker 3: does Daniel Jackson send to the Russian MiGs? Which is
- 1:38:43Speaker 3: the planes? What message does Daniel Jackson send to the
- 1:38:47Speaker 3: Russian MiGs? It's a long one, it's pretty pretty long.
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: Question eleven, Which SG one member member never existed in
- 1:39:00Speaker 3: the alternate timeline? Which SG one member never existed in
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: the alternate timeline? Question twelve Fraser, God, yeah, what do
- 1:39:12Speaker 3: the Russians? She's alive? She is a lot. She would
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: have been a live in this timeline, in that timeline,
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: bloody bitch? Where is she? Question twelve? What do the
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: Russians call the stargate? What do the Russians call the stargate?
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: This is all stargate continuing. By the way, don't worry
- 1:39:32Speaker 3: about Watergate those people. The question thirteen on what planet
- 1:39:41Speaker 3: is barles time machine located?
- 1:39:44Speaker 4: Oh?
- 1:39:44Speaker 2: This is.
- 1:39:48Speaker 3: On what planet is Barle's time machine located? This is
- 1:39:52Speaker 3: for those who watch with the subtitles on the sweaty Nerds.
- 1:39:58Speaker 3: Question fourteen, last question, what are the alternate What are
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: alternate Tilk's last words? What are alternate tilks last words?
- 1:40:10Speaker 3: There is another that would have been mad. All right,
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: let's bring it down for the answers. You're ready, we'll
- 1:40:18Speaker 3: throw it to Midge first after the goal will arrived.
- 1:40:21Speaker 3: What does Daniel say is coming next?
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: Slavery and death, more slavery, more death.
- 1:40:27Speaker 3: It's correct, and death give you that death, slavery, more slavery,
- 1:40:31Speaker 3: more death.
- 1:40:32Speaker 7: Damn it.
- 1:40:33Speaker 3: I had death, destruction and slavery. Close enough. Question nine.
- 1:40:39Speaker 3: How long does katesh say it's been since she's left
- 1:40:42Speaker 3: Ball's side?
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: Fifty years?
- 1:40:45Speaker 3: I had fifty years. Correct, it's official, and that Barla's
- 1:40:53Speaker 3: dad episode right? Yeah. Question ten, what message does Daniel
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: Jackson sent to the Russian MiGs? Got some Mitch, We're Americans.
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: Shoot the people behind.
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: Us, shoot the people chasing us, chasing us? Correct? Close enough.
- 1:41:12Speaker 3: I do like that they gave him something to do
- 1:41:14Speaker 3: during that time.
- 1:41:15Speaker 2: Yeah, because otherwise again another snarky comment where he's like, oh,
- 1:41:20Speaker 2: just sit back here in heaven, nap, it's going to
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: be a real dull flight.
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: And he's assumed that the Russians would actually listen to
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: an American. Yeah, we're Americans. Oh okay, you mate, don't
- 1:41:30Speaker 3: worry about that. We were expecting you. Question eleven, which
- 1:41:36Speaker 3: SG one member never existed in the alternate Timelinew.
- 1:41:40Speaker 2: Mitchell, Mitch Mitch, Mitch, Mitch, MITCHI Mitch, that's correct, that's correct, Wendy.
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: Question twelve, what do the Russians call the stargate the
- 1:41:48Speaker 3: putin damn Strogate? Incorrect? Was it like the money pit
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: or the time pit or something? I didn't pick it
- 1:41:59Speaker 3: up either. Apparently it was anchor.
- 1:42:01Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, because they found at the bottom of
- 1:42:04Speaker 2: the ocean in Russians.
- 1:42:07Speaker 3: Great people if they want to sponsor on what planet
- 1:42:12Speaker 3: is bars time machine located? Nothing praxy on correct?
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, come on mate.
- 1:42:22Speaker 3: And last question, what are alternate Tilk's last words? And
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: should always ever be Tilk's last words?
- 1:42:30Speaker 2: Free?
- 1:42:30Speaker 3: Correct? Great work guys, it's been fun. We've got some
- 1:42:37Speaker 3: Patreon people to shout out.
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: Where do I find this again?
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: Patreon dot com, forward slash getting the Gate? Great people,
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- 1:42:46Speaker 1: Devon phillips o Devon, the Devon slice of the DP
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: the dp DP. Yeah, slics one of the great process
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: meets slices.
- 1:42:59Speaker 3: Absolutely. Friend of mine used to have the Devin.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: Have Devon and then I just like put smarter sauce
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: on it.
- 1:43:06Speaker 3: I feel like that's a poor man's version of Billina
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: or Berlina. Where is it's the same thing? It's nice
- 1:43:14Speaker 3: fake cut me.
- 1:43:15Speaker 2: We just had hamd Where where does the luxury? You know,
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: we'd have hand for lunch, but you go home and
- 1:43:24Speaker 2: it'd be there. It would be the tinned braised steak
- 1:43:26Speaker 2: and onion jaffles.
- 1:43:29Speaker 1: Ye, Glenn see Glenn close. I can only imagine so
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: one of the great actresses Terry No, unfortunately.
- 1:43:37Speaker 3: But Glenn's big Glenn c Sea dog.
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: Angela one name.
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: So you need so you need like Madonna? Yeah, we'll
- 1:43:47Speaker 3: remember so Angie Steve who Luck from Tula? There we go.
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: Why did you just put his like you to fake Steve?
- 1:43:55Speaker 3: Just put ce dot?
- 1:43:56Speaker 7: Yeah?
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: You see who luck luck from true luck luck? One?
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: Gentle knife?
- 1:44:04Speaker 3: Gentle knife.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: So it is a made up name, I imagine, Unlet's
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: that is one person's first name. And if so I'm
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: jealous of.
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: Is that like a like a self cutting joke or
- 1:44:13Speaker 2: that that's like suppose I suppose gave Baal the gentle knife?
- 1:44:17Speaker 3: She sure did you know honed hone to?
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about the balls on on on
- 1:44:22Speaker 1: her and her plan all that sort of stuff to
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: sit there with a sword through the Lord of all
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: system lords while tilk's there behind. You know, just gon.
- 1:44:34Speaker 4: Do this.
- 1:44:38Speaker 3: I thought that was the thing you were going to make.
- 1:44:42Speaker 3: Next one is just.
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: From Sweet, oh Sweet, with three e's thank you Sweet,
- 1:44:53Speaker 1: Kelly clarks that's Kerry Clark, Kerry Kerry Clark.
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: No, Kerry Clarkson, thank you great, Thanks Pat.
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: Since you've been here, more like it, and uh, sit
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: out two five five say that again? Sat that two
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: five five double a D A T two five five.
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: You don't have to put your people suggested Twitter handle
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: in them.
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: But that's and then I got the shout out to
- 1:45:31Speaker 3: the discord as well.
- 1:45:32Speaker 2: I've been trying to jump on board the discord and
- 1:45:34Speaker 2: get involved with that as well.
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: So shout out for over there, come come and check
- 1:45:38Speaker 3: out the discord, the discourse on the discord.
- 1:45:41Speaker 2: Is that what it's called discord because because the discourse, yeah, probably,
- 1:45:47Speaker 2: but also discord get it.
- 1:45:50Speaker 3: Oh no, we have we can bookmark this.
- 1:45:52Speaker 2: We have a discourse, brilliant, we have discourse through discord.
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: Okay, So because of that, stay tuned at the end
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: of the episode for the ultimate Oh God beginning of
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: our podcast.
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: Which we obviously had to cut.
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: Because we wouldn't want to ruin the fact that Brandon
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: was here with Maddie not knowing what goes.
- 1:46:12Speaker 3: Doing some av support come full.
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: Brilliant, brilliant work, so good stuff. Yes, thank you, Patreons,
- 1:46:19Speaker 1: thank you, Discordiance, and.
- 1:46:21Speaker 3: I guess next week we'll just continue on with see
- 1:46:26Speaker 3: episode two, season five. Yeah, thanks for having me back.
- 1:46:29Speaker 3: He's coming back. Thank you for coming back. Yeah, you
- 1:46:32Speaker 3: should don't want to come back next week for the
- 1:46:34Speaker 3: seed so that I can have the week off seed.
- 1:46:37Speaker 3: I nearly had to call you in for harmony a
- 1:46:38Speaker 3: few weeks ago, because mate, you call Lincoln for the
- 1:46:42Speaker 3: seed quite often. I mean, people, you have no idea
- 1:46:48Speaker 3: how true that is.
- 1:46:51Speaker 1: Oh you know what, well, we're still right there. I've
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: had this bloody next to me. I didn't even put
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: it on the whole time. It was a costume to change.
- 1:46:59Speaker 1: I didn't have any life last episode, and I haven't
- 1:47:01Speaker 1: got it. I didn't wear it for this one.
- 1:47:02Speaker 3: I save it for the mail Bay.
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: Wear it now.
- 1:47:04Speaker 3: I put it on, Put it on now, God dear.
- 1:47:07Speaker 4: Do this.
- 1:47:09Speaker 1: I spent like three dollars in this T shirt about
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: eight months ago.
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: He've got the iron out for it.
- 1:47:14Speaker 7: I did there you go, oh hey, look at the
- 1:47:18Speaker 7: dust coming up. I am the clerk, not as bad
- 1:47:25Speaker 7: as that's the.
- 1:47:28Speaker 2: Stargate origin shirt you got from Brendan that had the
- 1:47:30Speaker 2: mysterious comes down on the show.
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: When I found that your work covered a few months ago, it.
- 1:47:34Speaker 3: Was welcome, one of the great comes Well, well it
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: is at this time Brendan we say you are not
- 1:47:41Speaker 3: the real Brendan.
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: You are, in fact a clone that we have made
- 1:47:44Speaker 1: from the left over seaman on that shirt Offimon.
- 1:47:48Speaker 3: You're our own bear Kit bear Kit, and I still
- 1:47:53Speaker 3: thank you a bit. When Beckett died.
- 1:47:57Speaker 1: Coming back and I sat there wallowing and my own sorrow,
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: but then he's he's back. Well kinder kind of kind disorder. Yeah,
- 1:48:05Speaker 1: we got some more boots, Yeah, frozen boots. You could
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: have stolen frozen boots in this episode.
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, Daniel had an extra. He'd still be
- 1:48:15Speaker 3: in Scotland, wouldn't he.
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: That wouldn't that be the most prized boot that Beckett
- 1:48:19Speaker 1: would It's the boot he no longer needs.
- 1:48:23Speaker 2: It's a.
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: Cane. Do you think he'd ask if you could keep
- 1:48:30Speaker 3: the foot as well?
- 1:48:31Speaker 4: Like?
- 1:48:31Speaker 3: Yeah, probably sick bastard. The Clone's definitely got a foot fetish.
- 1:48:40Speaker 3: It's a defect. Yeah. I often wake up in the
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: middle of the night stress that I never would have
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: seen that Holly from Lonnis. Oh yeah, the audio what
- 1:48:54Speaker 3: do we call it? The Incoming Wormhole? Yes, that's the thing.
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: That's one of the great Well, I got my kids here.
- 1:48:59Speaker 1: If you haven't heard of the background at any point
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: during this podcast, good good for you. And one of
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: them is Will who's he's been as long as he's
- 1:49:08Speaker 1: been alive, this podcast has been going on, and he said,
- 1:49:10Speaker 1: to the people that make this show, do they know
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: that you make a podcast about it?
- 1:49:15Speaker 3: Some of them?
- 1:49:15Speaker 4: Do?
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: Some of them?
- 1:49:19Speaker 3: Three of them?
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: Thanks to Holly from Lonnie. So one of the greats,
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: probably the great. I mean, surely that was the greatest
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: we've ever had, honorable man.
- 1:49:32Speaker 4: Is it that?
- 1:49:33Speaker 2: Or is it?
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: Or is it Corky's what you came here? That's up there?
- 1:49:38Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's true.
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: I mean it's Dan Pouci maybe. Okay, it's the best
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: single entry Incoming Wormhole.
- 1:49:47Speaker 2: I mean the fact that we get some I mean
- 1:49:49Speaker 2: we've had so many great ones. Yeah, I guess for
- 1:49:52Speaker 2: you guys, be like choosing children.
- 1:49:55Speaker 3: Yeah, don't make me admitt I'm looking at them.
- 1:50:01Speaker 8: Yeah, just according Mitch is like, well, it's definitely not James.
- 1:50:04Speaker 8: So these ones are not like the others.
- 1:50:14Speaker 7: Into the geek, get into the gate, get into gate Stargate.
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: Sive me some maass bring