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Knicks come home for game 3, Victor Wembanyama Backlash, World Cup Fever heats up | 06.08 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Wave. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A
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  Speaker 1: wave original. My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 1: only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you
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  Speaker 1: are a hater. Uh, obviously we got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: NBA finals talk. We've got the world cup.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I got to say.
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  Speaker 1: My thought was if San Antonio went to Madison Square
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  Speaker 1: Garden down 0-2, it would be a sweep. I would
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  Speaker 1: just like to point out that, granted, it was a
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  Speaker 1: 2-3-2 format, but the Phoenix Suns in 1993 were in
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  Speaker 1: a very similar situation. They actually managed to win two
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  Speaker 1: out of three at Chicago Stadium, and were right there
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  Speaker 1: in it with a chance to win the championship that
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  Speaker 1: year before the John Paxton shot to win the championship there.
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  Speaker 1: Which is to say, on one hand, this series is
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  Speaker 1: not over. On the other hand, fuck out of here.
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  Speaker 1: What am I talking about? It feels pretty over from here. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we did something that I don't necessarily know if it
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  Speaker 1: was great for business, but oh well, we just didn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like working on no Saturday. But we did not
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  Speaker 1: come in with the immediate reaction to the end of
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  Speaker 1: game two. And I don't really know how it would
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  Speaker 1: have gone over if I had jumped in on the
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  Speaker 1: immediate reaction because what I found fascinating about the immediate
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  Speaker 1: reaction was to game two was simply everything that happened
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  Speaker 1: was like a response to some shit that somebody else
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  Speaker 1: has said before that really might not have been particularly
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  Speaker 1: relevant to what is going on at this given moment
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  Speaker 1: in time that appears because we have what the internet
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  Speaker 1: has given us is an uncommon like Rolling tally on
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  Speaker 1: everything everybody has ever said before in their lives.
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  Speaker 2: You know what the internet is like? It's like a PC. Ryan,
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  Speaker 2: are you a PC user?
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  Speaker 3: I am not a PC user.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I voluntarily laid my hands on no PC in 20 years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've had to use them for work occasionally,
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  Speaker 3: but not if I haven't had to.
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  Speaker 2: It's come up.
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  Speaker 1: They used to have a PC in here for me
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  Speaker 1: for work, and I was like, damn, I forgot how
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  Speaker 1: you did that. Like, it's kind of like how it
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  Speaker 1: was one year at Christmas when our microwave broke. It was,
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  Speaker 1: I forget when it was, but I am of that
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  Speaker 1: age where I looked at everybody like, so what are
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  Speaker 1: we going to do now?
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, how do you reheat food? I only know how
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  Speaker 1: to do it through pressing buttons. It has never come
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  Speaker 1: up in my life before.
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  Speaker 3: It would take me an embarrassing amount of time to
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  Speaker 3: figure out how to reheat food without a microwave.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, no, you get to it now. Like I've learned.
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  Speaker 1: I've rarely used my microwave for that fashion.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I bring that up because of this.
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  Speaker 1: What used to be the story with the PC may
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  Speaker 1: not be the story with the PC right now.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: But you remember how long it used to take for
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  Speaker 1: a PC to crank up every time you.
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  Speaker 2: Used it as it went longer and longer?
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  Speaker 1: The reason was that thing kept the running log of
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  Speaker 1: every keystroke and everything that you had ever done. And
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  Speaker 1: whenever you turned it on, it went back through all
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  Speaker 1: of those things, right? The internet basically does that when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to everything. We're just rolling through all these
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  Speaker 1: tallies of everything that that anybody has ever said, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't really take nothing on its face value right now.
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  Speaker 1: Everything has to be some answer, some shit that some
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  Speaker 1: hater said back in the past. Now, I want to
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  Speaker 1: be very clear that I am not expressing my distaste
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  Speaker 1: for this fact because I may be one of those
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  Speaker 1: people that you're calling a hater from the past. The
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  Speaker 1: reason I have no problem with that is I've been
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  Speaker 1: done got out in front of my shit. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like you deal with evidence as you have it, and
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  Speaker 1: then you go from there. OK, and if things change,
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  Speaker 1: things change. Don't be wedded to whatever it was that
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  Speaker 1: you said before. However, be real about whatever it was
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  Speaker 1: that was said before. Now, all of a sudden, it's
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  Speaker 1: the most amazing thing in the world. Everybody got something
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  Speaker 1: to say about what somebody else had to say about
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  Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Towns. They were saying that he was soft. Now,
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  Speaker 1: some of that stuff is a thing. Because, Ryan, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't saying that other stuff. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: There's a line you don't go to.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: When I said that he was an alleged sucker, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't talking about that.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about doing dumb shit and getting in
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  Speaker 2: foul trouble.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, did not go in that direction. Now, some of y'all,
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  Speaker 1: some of y'all do.
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  Speaker 2: Have to answer that. Though I do have to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, Carl has had one consistent voice from what I
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  Speaker 1: could tell this postseason, and it has been one with
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  Speaker 1: some base in it, and he sounds like a grown
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  Speaker 1: man in these postgame interviews, and ride this one out, dog.
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  Speaker 1: This has always been the one that works.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Now, maybe it's not who you are, but Try being this.
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's going. It's rolling. Look, he's been the best
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  Speaker 1: player on the team. I am actually a little blown
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  Speaker 1: away by how many Knicks fans, because you're so wedded
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  Speaker 1: to Jalen Brunson, just don't want to, like, be real
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  Speaker 1: about this fact. He's been that guy. Jalen Brunson may
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  Speaker 1: be the guy that gets the shots for you at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the game, right? And he may be
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  Speaker 1: the most important player for a number of reasons. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at Karl-Anthony Towns as Finals MVP. I know
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  Speaker 1: I talked a lot about this in the last game,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's more fun to talk about how
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  Speaker 1: well he's playing than try to say that somebody was
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  Speaker 1: wrong about what they said before.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the argument made.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be crazy if he wins the championship
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  Speaker 1: before Jimmy Butler did. That was eight years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Buffalo has been on about three different teams since then.
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  Speaker 1: He's been on three different teams since then. He's been
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  Speaker 1: on two teams that went to the finals. Another one
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  Speaker 1: that was basically a shot from getting to the finals. Um, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: not going to lie. Good for Carl if he happens
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  Speaker 1: to do that. It took eight years, or more like
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  Speaker 1: seven and change. But you get my point. This doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be about some shit somebody else said. You
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  Speaker 1: remember when Coco Gauff won the U.S. Open and had
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  Speaker 1: the whole dedication to the haters?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And I did a year-in-review show with some young women
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  Speaker 1: that year. I think they were in their 20s at
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  Speaker 1: the time. And they all talked about how much they
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  Speaker 1: loved that. And it made me sad. I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: you just won the U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Open.
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  Speaker 1: Are you out here thinking about Johnny 3, 5, 2, 4, 6, 7,
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  Speaker 1: 3 and one third on Twitter or whatever it was? Like,
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  Speaker 1: is this what we're doing? No. So much analysis that
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  Speaker 1: I've seen about this. And granted, I'm looking at it
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  Speaker 1: on the Internet where people go to be miserable. But
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  Speaker 1: it's wild how much of like what we have going
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  Speaker 1: on right now standing on its own is so dope.
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  Speaker 1: Or you could put it in terms that we usually
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  Speaker 1: put it in with guys like this, which is Carl
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Towns got better.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Which is the things that he was doing as recently
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  Speaker 1: as two years ago in the playoffs. He's not doing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, I will never forget Stan Van Gundy on
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  Speaker 1: some late game possession while Carl was still playing good
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  Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, I think you might want to
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  Speaker 1: get this guy out of the game so he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: commit a stupid foul. Because he did so much dumb stuff.
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  Speaker 1: None of that is happening anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, and to be fair to him, I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a part that I probably didn't give him enough
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  Speaker 1: credit for because he's been in the league now for
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  Speaker 1: 11 years. I want to say he's just 30 or
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: That's wild.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's a process. Olajuwon did not really become
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  Speaker 1: Olajuwon in that way until he was early 30s.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, maybe part of it is just because these guys
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  Speaker 1: get in so young or whatever it is. But what
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  Speaker 1: I think is the cool thing right now about the Knicks,
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  Speaker 1: they are not the team that they were during the
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  Speaker 1: regular season. During the regular season, man, the things that
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  Speaker 1: people were saying but not out loud about what they
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  Speaker 1: were going to have to do and the fingers pointing
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  Speaker 1: at everybody else. Mikael Bridges looks like a completely different
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  Speaker 1: player than he.
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  Speaker 2: Did two months ago. Jalen Brunson is not playing well
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Matter because everybody else has pulled up and now they
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  Speaker 1: are up 2-0. Coming back home. What could mess this
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  Speaker 1: up for them? How in the world could this not roll? Like,
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  Speaker 1: this feels like it should be a sweep.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But... Bad vibes are on the way. Bad juju is coming.
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  Speaker 1: Do we know where bad juju gonna be sitting? Is
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  Speaker 1: he in a box or is he gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: the floor?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he has to be in a box. Like.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I think the best argument for him
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  Speaker 1: having to be on the box is that would be
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  Speaker 1: taking money out of somebody's pocket.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? But is it on the board? Oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: he can't be there.
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  Speaker 1: So Zoran said he bought his own ticket for a
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  Speaker 1: game three. He said he bought his own seat, which
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  Speaker 1: means Zoran.
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  Speaker 2: On one level.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, cool.
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  Speaker 2: Zoran going to be all the way at the top.
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  Speaker 2: On the other level, he's not that tall. He'll be perfect.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if his feet gonna hit.
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  Speaker 1: The ground, right? He'll be up there, right? But bad
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  Speaker 1: vibes are on the way. They say you gotta get
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  Speaker 1: to the arena two hours early. They not gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to watch party outside. And I really feel bad for
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  Speaker 1: those people who can't go to the watch party outside
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  Speaker 1: because I've seen a lot of these right outside the
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  Speaker 1: arena watch parties. I look at them and this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be tough because now these cats might have
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  Speaker 1: to go watch a game somewhere where there's some girls.
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  Speaker 1: They nervous as hell right now. I've been waiting to
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  Speaker 1: get that one off.
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  Speaker 3: It really is just so many dudes. I mean, dude,
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  Speaker 3: it's fair. They look like they're having a great time.
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  Speaker 2: They do.
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  Speaker 3: Especially in the post game. If they take the wide
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  Speaker 3: shot before they like go in on the one guy. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: All dudes.
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  Speaker 2: All dudes. It's wall to wall dudes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what it would take or what
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  Speaker 1: it would have to be to be more dudes.
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  Speaker 2: And to be fair to them, it's not their fault
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  Speaker 2: that it's all dudes.
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  Speaker 6: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's the women who look at that crowd and are like,
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  Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere else?
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  Speaker 3: Literally anywhere else.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think these guys would run away.
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  Speaker 3: For so many reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I don't think these guys would run away. Like, ew, gross.
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  Speaker 2: Girls have cooties. I don't think that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think a couple of ladies who might
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  Speaker 1: have thought about coming pulled up there and were like, shit,
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  Speaker 1: is the 40-40 club still open?
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  Speaker 3: Where's the bathroom? Nowhere? Okay, then let's go literally anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's mix this.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody seems happy about the fact that Trump is
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  Speaker 1: pulling up to this just because it seems like it's
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  Speaker 1: going to make things really inconvenient about going to a
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  Speaker 1: venue that, if nothing else, is wildly convenient. It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: convenient even if you don't live in Manhattan, even if
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  Speaker 1: you don't live in the city of New York, because
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  Speaker 1: it's right there at Penn Station.
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  Speaker 2: It's really easy to get there. So now he's pulling up.
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  Speaker 1: Don't nobody want him to be there and see... This
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  Speaker 1: is where Dolan messing up. Dolan is messing up because
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  Speaker 1: it's been real easy to forget about him.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can't quite forget about him because it's just
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  Speaker 1: going to be a big old giant hassle. I will
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  Speaker 1: also point out that like. Times is kind of hard
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  Speaker 1: out here in these streets. Now, to be fair. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how hard those times are for the people
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  Speaker 1: that are going to be at this expensive-ass game.
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  Speaker 3: Fair.
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  Speaker 2: It's the salad days for them. I had a.
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  Speaker 1: Talk with someone with whom I do some work about
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  Speaker 1: my finances. I'm trying to make that sound a little
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  Speaker 1: bit less 1%-y, but you understand what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to him.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I don't know about this economy, but,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for people with money, it's great times.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think what's the final count of
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  Speaker 3: what the nosebleeds are for Madison Square?
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  Speaker 6: 13K? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, though, those people don't plan to sell
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  Speaker 1: those tickets. I think that's the part that people misunderstand.
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  Speaker 2: About those sale prices.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Those are people who really want to go to this game.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like if some way you got access to these seats,
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  Speaker 1: you really want.
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  Speaker 2: To go to this game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to convince me that anybody
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  Speaker 1: is paying $ 13, 000 to sit up there with Richie Guerin.
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  Speaker 1: and Dick Barnett and Willis Reed, right? Like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anybody's doing that. I do think there are people
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  Speaker 1: with seats that high who are saying, the only way
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to miss this game is if you give
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  Speaker 1: me $ 15, 000. Like, now we got to think about it.
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  Speaker 1: This comes up every year with Carolina Duke, where people
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  Speaker 1: get offered these crazy amounts of money and they finally
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to go to the game and they say, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go to the game, right? I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what, those are sale prices that are individually being set.
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  Speaker 2: These are not the prices that are being set by
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  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So, no, I don't, I don't, I think that if
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  Speaker 1: somebody really wanted to move them seats, you get in
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  Speaker 1: about five minutes before the game, you might be able
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  Speaker 1: to get in for five Gs or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: But people go try. Right? They're going to give it
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  Speaker 1: a go. I understand this. That's like, that's what it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be. It's going to be crazy loud in there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, assuming everybody gets in on time
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  Speaker 1: because they got to go through and check their bags.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they're telling people get there two hours before.
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  Speaker 3: That is... It's like an international flight. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's what this game has become.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you this, though. It's going to take a
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  Speaker 1: lot more than that to get these people to not
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  Speaker 1: be as crunked up as one could imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Like, it's going.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing that's crazy. It's like, if you got
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  Speaker 3: to get there two hours before, you know what people
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  Speaker 3: are going to... I hope they... You know what people
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  Speaker 3: are going to do for two hours? Buy a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of alcohol.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, they are.
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  Speaker 1: They are.
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 3: They are.
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  Speaker 1: And look, man, we don't We don't have any precedent,
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like, in the NBA.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 1: For something like this. Like, this is the equivalent of, like,
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  Speaker 1: 2016 Cubs. Not the exact same, but it might as
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  Speaker 1: well be. The difference in application between 50 years and
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  Speaker 1: 100 years really isn't that much.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: And this is not... Maybe the.
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  Speaker 1: Closest to this is the Cleveland baseball team having not
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  Speaker 1: won a championship since 1948.
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  Speaker 2: It had been so long. they had the second black
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  Speaker 2: person on the team. And it was the.
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  Speaker 1: Satchel Paige was on the team. That's how long ago
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  Speaker 1: it was since they had won anything.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: New York, it feel the same for the Knicks. It
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  Speaker 1: might as well. And in fact, remember that. When the
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  Speaker 1: Cubs won, they were playing against Cleveland.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: It was more or less.
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  Speaker 1: The same situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be there. This has been a great team.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 1: That I had asked the question, like, so what's it
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  Speaker 1: going to take for people to like jump off board
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: with the Knicks for this run that they've been on?
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: And it hasn't come up.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: We don't have the answer for what it would take.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it's going to take a lot
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: more than one. I mean, it's going to take so
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: much more than that. And this is, look, even after
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: they almost blew game two, and let's not get it twisted,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: they almost blew that game. Like Jalen Brunson still hit
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: the shot late that they needed, but they nearly blew that.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: Carl went back to committing stupid fouls, right? Like it
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: was a lot that went on at the end of
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: that game. And still nobody's thinking about it like that.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, man, we the next, baby. We
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: find a way to win. Where the fuck y'all stop?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Where did y'all find that?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: What, has it just been under the couch cushion the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: whole time?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And you just couldn't find it for 50 years? Oh, shit,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: there you go, right there. Man, my bad. I should
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: have just asked somebody to help me look for it, right?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they needed.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: They needed all five dudes to get in there.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: And find a way to figure it out. But no,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: This to me is a story of something that you
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: don't really see that much in the NBA. I would
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: actually argue, and it seems maybe crazy to say it
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: this way, but it is the 2004 and 2014 become
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the best examples of this, of just like college has
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch of like really good teams, right? Where you
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: just have this, where it's like, who's the best guy?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: That isn't really the answer to the question. It's just
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a collection of dudes and how well they play together.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: You don't really see that in the NBA. That's not
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: really how the NBA works. The 2014 Spurs don't seem
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: like that, but it's like Kawhi before he gets there.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Tony Parker, middle age. Milo Ginobili, middle age. Tim Duncan,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: certified old. If you watch that team, that had nothing
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: to do with them having one superstar. Maybe it was
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a level of experience, but they was moving the ball
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: and it always got to where it needed to be
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and everything was straight.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Those are these Knicks.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: It's actually the kind of team that New York would
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: appreciate and the kind of team that New York likes.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: This is what they've got. They came out unscathed.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: If they win this game three, I don't know what
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Thursday night is going to be like in this city.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Because if they win game three, I don't think San
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Antonio got nearly enough to think about doing anything in
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: game four. If they win this game three, don't let
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: them blow them out in game three, which is on
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the board, right? Like, we'll get to the Spurs, but
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: they say it all the right things. But everything is
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: on the table for them to get their asses kicked.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Out here.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And the thing that's shocking to me about the Knicks
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: is they're starting to feel inevitable. Once that game two
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: was closed in the second quarter, like they didn't get
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: blown out from the jump. I was like, they're going
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: to pull this off.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so I felt like they were. And then
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the Spurs came back and they, you know what? Let's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just go ahead to, and the Spurs had a chance,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: but dot, dot, dot.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The reason I decided to wait to talk about the Spurs,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and Ryan, you tell me if I'm wrong here. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: just felt like all the discussion was just a bunch
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: of people who had been waiting for their chance to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: be haters.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Definitely a little bit.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: We learned with the Chet situation, the streets respond to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the hatred way more than they do to the love,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: which is why this may become a YouTube breakout that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: gets released on Sunday afternoon.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: But it is, I just, I didn't feel right.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You know, with Chet, we didn't do, but we did
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: break it out. Okay, so we are that which we despise.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm torn, man. I'm torn, man.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Baby got to eat.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying? That's what it is.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: That ending in San Antonio was... shall we say, interesting.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: They'll get no credit for the comeback, right? Everything about
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: game two has been through the lens of what Victor
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Wimpenyama did not do. Did not play well in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: first half. And looking back on it, man, it was
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: great defense by the Knicks.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was running away from the ball.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: The ball wasn't getting to him. I think the biggest
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: misnomer of this, and I'm big on this too, is, man,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: why won't you go into the paint? I don't think
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that Victor's averse to going to the paint. I don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: think he's opposed to getting to the paint, but it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: big guys over there not letting it happen.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Like there is such a strength advantage on the front
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: line from the Knicks that for Victor to get there
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: requires him to do these kind of post moves that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: seem to take forever.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Because he's so long. Right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a matter of him, like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: not being willing to go down there. And I think
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: he winds up taking these threes in part because he
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: feels like you got to get out there.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And take a shot.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But I did not think of, I mean, and don't
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: get me wrong, Towns and Ananobi were putting a hurt
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to him on defense, right? The thing that's gotten me
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: with people like I think are getting revisionist about Carl
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Towns and they're like, man, you know, you guys said
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: he spent too much time on the perimeter, but that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: why he's doing so well.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I disagree with that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I think his ability to play on the perimeter is
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: a big part of it. But the biggest reason that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he's doing so well is he's so goddamn big, which
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: is the part that the other people, including me, had
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: been saying. You're too big to relegate yourself to standing
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: out on the perimeter, which I want to be clear
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is the same point that people are making about Victor.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: The difference is what you're saying about Victor is not
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that he's too big to be standing on the perimeter.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: You're saying that he's too tall to be standing on
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the perimeter and he is tall, man. The reason that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he's having trouble with Towns and again, OG, who is 6'7,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: is because they are big. And so when Carl puts
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the ball on the dribble and gets a little bit
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: past him and he turns that shoulder, there's nothing Victor
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: can do. Just about everybody else, the guys that aren't
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that big, he can play from behind and pitch they shit, right?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: He can't do that with Towns. Towns is 260 or
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: 270 pounds. There's like, at least appears to be in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: that zone.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: He can't do nothing with him on that front.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: That's where it's like, no, the issue with Towns, if
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Towns had played with what appears to be this level
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of toughness and this level of physical resolve, he wouldn't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: have been saying that stuff we said about him before.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: But it gets us back to Victor where he's not
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: going to be able to get himself down to the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: places that people want him to get. The question is
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: why Mitch Johnson is not figuring out a way to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: get him or get the ball there or whatever it is.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: They don't seem to be doing anything. And you let
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: me know if I'm wrong here. I think Mike Brown
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: seems to be doing an excellent job. I don't see
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Mitch Johnson doing anything schematically to make things easier for
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: his best player. And he needs to, because as we
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: talked about last show, what is interesting about these teams
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: is the guys that get out here and play for
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: both teams are clustered around the same age. And I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: believe that median age for the Spurs is like 22
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: or 23. And that median age for the Knicks is
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like 28 or 29. Right.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Like, that's a big difference.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I made a bit of a mistake last show where
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I talked about the Knicks didn't have guys that had
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: been this far.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: It's not true. Mikael Bridges has.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: You can put OG out there, but OG was hurt
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: for most of that run in 2019, as I recall it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: But either way it goes, they got bigger dudes.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to figure out a way to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: help Carl Anthony, I mean, not him, Victor Wimbanyama, get
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to the shots that are easy, right? The expectation that he,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: at this point in his career, is just going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: be able to do that, no, no.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: No one that young has consistent, like, go-to moves late,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even, forget about go-to moves.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: He's too spindly, sinewy, lanky, right? To just think, okay, well,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: what he's going to do is he's going.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: To muscle Mitchell Robinson to make him give him space. Oh,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. So how are you going
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: to figure this out? Like what got me on that
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: last play of the game where he missed that shot.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: There's no way that to me you should have been
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: playing for a pick and pop under that circumstance because
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think you want him taking that shot. I'd
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: much rather Fox take that shot.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Then him.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I would have thought that off that screen, a hard
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: role and people have said, well, they the Knicks had
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: all those people in there. That's fine. Let them have
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: all those people in there. Let them all look at Victor.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And then we get the ball or one of these
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: other guys who should be able.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: To make a shot.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Or, you know, or someone fouls. You're sending them to
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: the line.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, how many of them can get high
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: enough to do something?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Like, it's all those questions.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I thought that the play there
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: should have been a hard roll rather than, well, let's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: play it for him to take an elbow jumper. But
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: we've seen when it's come time for big shots, what
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: they clearly think is his spot is like an elbow jumper.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: And that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: No, I agree.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You don't want it to be that, but you're going
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to have to figure out with this guy a way
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: to get him better shots. The other thing that's happening
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: with them is interesting. Dylan Harper, who, he's going to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: be that guy. and he's still 20 years old and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: has moments where he looks like that and does those things.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: What I love about his game is sometimes I rhyme slow,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: sometimes I rhyme fast. He can play at whatever speed
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: is necessary, and you can't quite tell which one it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: going to be.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: The XL, DSL game is strong.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I think we see a lot of guys that have
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: strong DSL, guys with strong XL, not that many that
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: have both in the way that he has the two
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: of them. That's been great, but he's still like crazy young.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Stephon Castle, that's the guy that's doing the James Harden
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: 2012 impression. Like not all the way in there, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we saw that early in the last series and we've
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: seen it here that he's 21 years old, man. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: sometimes that moment's going to feel a little bit big
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: to him. Those cats like Vassell and Sham Pipple, they
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: very clearly understand what they're here to do. shoot went
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: open yes and they seem to do pretty well um
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: when it comes to that but no we're not at
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a point in the victor game where he's just going
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to decide where he's at the point and what we
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: saw that in game one of the last series where
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he can be that dude like everything can line up
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and he can make it happen but hey you're just
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: gonna jump on my back and we're gonna make it
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: happen you can't count.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: On what you make of the late turnover as they're
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: going up the floor.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So somebody who was at the arena told me that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: what you needed to look for was that Mitch Johnson
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: told him to push it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: And then everybody kind of freaked out.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, Castle looked for the ball, and then Victor tried.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: We're in a weird world where we're asking, why did
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the 7'5 guy try to give the ball to a guard?
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I don't really understand why you would do such a thing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I would have tried to play for a transition basket.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I've seen people say he should have called a timeout.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Hell no, he shouldn't have called a timeout.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Get it back. They're not set.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Jalen and Cat are still on the floor.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. It was an unfortunate play, and then it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: led to the foul. But they still had a chance afterward, right? Like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it was a moment that looked bad. It did not
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: lose them the game. Maybe it lost them the chance
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to go to overtime. But I don't know. I mean,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just thought, I thought what that
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: was was people's opportunity to to get their jokes off, right?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Like that's really what it came down to.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It was their chance.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Built a dude up two weeks ago. All it was
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: was two weeks. I saw somebody on the internet again.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: They're like, you know, this is the thing I was
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: talking about before where everything is about what would have
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: happened otherwise.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Man, what would we have said if LeBron had done that?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Why are we talking about him?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Number one. Number two, I was here for it, okay?
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Year four, LeBron in the NBA finals did not play well.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You ever hear anybody talk about it? Pretty rarely.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It was a long time ago.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: No, but even then, it wasn't... When we were killing
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: him for 2010 and 2011, nobody was taking.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: It back to 2007.
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Like, no.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: He simply wasn't good in that series. It wasn't that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: big a deal. Now, year seven and year eight.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. We were on his neck, okay?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I would also argue that year seven and year eight,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: when it went bad in the playoffs, he played worse
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: than Victor played in game two. By far played worse
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: than Victor. 2011 NBA Finals, LeBron James was awful.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: It's interesting because he didn't, I don't think he had
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a signature moment, like a signature gaffe. But he just looked,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: had the deer in the headlights for two hours.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, no, no.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: He had the signature gaffe. It was being guarded in
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the post by J.J. Beret.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Fair.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: That's the part that you just knew it was over.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: It was all the way over. I mean, there's a
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: lot to it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I think there's an argument that it humanized LeBron in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: a way because I just think the stress of that
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: year had gotten to be too much. But ultimately, it
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: was worse than anything we saw from game two.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: But when he was 22, we weren't killing him for
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: not playing well in that game. Larry Bird did not
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: win NBA Finals MVP in 1981. He did not have
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a great finals that year. Magic would not have won
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: NBA Finals MVP in 1980 if it weren't for the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Kareem injury.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: He probably shouldn't have under those circumstances.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: The only point that I'm making is now the Spurs
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: are kind of going back to what we all have
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: thought forever is what it should be for a team
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: at this point, right? That's how they played in those
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: two games. Maybe they get up off the ground, right?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Maybe, maybe they're able to put it together.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I thought that everything Victor said, Hey man, I got
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to have more poise. He seems to be the most
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: self-aware and most able to acknowledge his faults and let
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: it go, which I think is very, very important. That's
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that mindfulness stuff that he seems to be all about doing, right?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Like that to me is where that stuff comes up
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: is in the way that he talks about and handles
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: those things.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But they're going to need to get it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: If they're going to have any chance to win this,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: they've got to get out here and get it done.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: And it's got to take place early.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Like, you guys get down 15-2 or something like this?
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Mm-mm.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were talking about how loud that building's going
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: to be. If they get up to a big run,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: big lead... Yeah. It's going to feel like a party
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: in there real, real soon.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: But in fairness to the Spurs, it's something worth keeping
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in mind. It's going to be nerve wracking for the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Knicks too. Like, no, everybody thinks they're going to win.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Like if they are capable of feeling pressure, this is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the game that they'll feel it. I think they'd feel
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: more pressure here than they would feel in the games seven.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Because game seven is like, oh, this could go either way.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: This is, I don't think, can you think of a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: team that's been expected to win a game in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: way that this team is? Like those first two, those
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: first two spreads were weird.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Like those spreads were like the Spurs were like a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: six and a half point favorite in game two. That
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was preposterous.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it seems that the Knicks have been
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: consistently undervalued.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Yo, do you know what the spread is in this one?
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: As of this moment?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go Knicks favored by three and a half.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: One and a half? What am I missing here?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: That's insane.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: What are we... I am totally confused by this, right? Like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I can't... No, no, no, no.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I don't see this.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: But.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: This could go a lot of ways, man. This could
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: go a lot of ways. I obviously think that the
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Knicks are going to win. But what if Victor comes
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: out here and puts up like 35?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: At MSG?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: It's possible. That's the thing. It's simply possible. It is
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: not probable. And this is the difference between a guy
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like this at this age and then where it gets later.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: At this age, it's possible. Later, it becomes probable, right?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: The skills catch up to where he's way ahead of
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the game mentally. And I don't mean in terms of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: processing basketball. I mean, in terms of mindset, he's way
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: ahead of 22 at that point. But everything else, it's
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: got to catch up, man. It's got to catch up.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And maybe they catch lightning in a bottle here. Maybe
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: he's super hot or whatever it is. But to me,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I got less questions about how Victor's going to turn
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: up than how Stefan Castle is going to turn up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Because it's possible, man.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: He might completely tighten it up, right? Like, one thing
• 31:33
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• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the other guys are like, yeah, man, well, we think
• 31:37
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• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Like, they have that mindset.
• 31:39
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• 31:42
  Speaker 1: come up in a lot of these dudes. And we've
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: seen it come up in Victor. They eventually pulled it
• 31:47
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• 31:50
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• 32:00
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• 34:41
  Speaker 3: what do you make of this?
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: One.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Let us not discount the possibility of some stat juking.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Like, I barely know what numbers mean anymore, right? But
• 34:51
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• 34:55
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• 34:57
  Speaker 2: But number two.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It's amazing what happens when you have.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Actual factual star power combined with the biggest market in
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the country. Last year, what did we have? Oklahoma City
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and Indiana. Who the fuck was the number two for Indiana?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, like it just, it wasn't,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think these.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Ratings would have been this high if you would put
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: the Knicks in last year.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: But Victor- Victor's at a point where people who don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: watch basketball know what you're talking about, right?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I heard this big French guy over there, even
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: if they don't know his name, right?
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, no, this is, this is the thing like
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: this idea that somehow basketball has slipped in cultural relevance.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I just live in a different world,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: but it ain't gone nowhere in the world that I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: traffic in. But in terms of television, yeah, man, I think,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: first of all, I think it's helped the NBC thing
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: has helped a lot.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I think being over the air and them being there,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think has been a big deal. I think I
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: also think, Hey man, this is the first NBA finals
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of Inside the NBA. Like, I don't think that that's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a small thing either. Like, I think this feels like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a big deal in a way where last year was
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the first time when we bullied Adam into putting the
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: trophy on the floor.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It was like, hey, man, you weren't making this feel
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: like a big deal.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I think NBC has done a great job of making
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: this feel like a big deal.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I think the broadcast this year.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, NBC had the playoffs and the Western
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Conference finals. The finals are on ESPN. Yes.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: But it all builds.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, correct. I completely agree that NBC's presentation of the
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: playoffs has definitely... It.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: All feels like a big deal. And look, I worked
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: at ESPN for a long time. I worked with a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: lot of those people for a long time.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Having.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Charles, Shaq, Kenny and Ernie makes this feel like a
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bigger deal than any incarnation of NBA countdown that there
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: has ever been. And I think that that carries over
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: into how much like what the ratings are.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: These these playoffs have felt important.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: You know what feels silly? All the conversations we had
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: about who's the next face of the league.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I told people, you have to admit, I don't know
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: if we did it on this show, but I've said it.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, it's going.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: To be Jason Tatum and Edwards.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: No, they got, we just got so caught up in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the America part.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: No, we need you to be amazing. Right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Like I don't, and it's, it is wild because all
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: these guys.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: That we've had come from other countries, a lot of
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: them have been really impressive.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: This one's amazing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: He's amazing. He is. He jumps off the screen, both
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: physically and with his play. His interviews are incredible. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, he also put up one of
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the biggest star performances we've seen in a long, long
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: time last week.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And he's becoming polarizing all because he keeps saying what
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he should.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: The haters, especially the little ones, the little guys, this, this,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: this is, they not, I can just imagine them.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: They just, Reaching up into the sky, trying to figure
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: out what to do.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: All right. The World Cup kicks off this week, and
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: there is one consistent narrative throughout the country. It's really,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: really hot. In England, they are using special high-tech palm
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: cooling devices to try and keep them cool. Over one-third
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: of the games next week will be in what will
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: be termed dangerous levels of heat. according to, uh, according
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: to the NPR. Well, I want you to, uh, I'm
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: going to run through where some of these teams are training, uh,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: just to, uh, get kind of an idea of the heat.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Norway training in Greensboro, North Carolina.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on. In Greenville, Greensboro, North Carolina.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, Greensboro.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Greensboro.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Big, big difference.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Big difference. Uh, Sweden, Frisco, Texas, Dallas.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Um, Let's see. Let's go through a few Portugal, Palms,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Palm beach, uh, Spain, Chattanooga, Tennessee.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: You could tell who's, you could tell who did their
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: location scouting early and who waited too late.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Um, so, uh, Turkey, a Mesa, Arizona.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So shout out to you to catching up. It is
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: now Turkey, not Turkey.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I know that because they're playing the United States.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, OK.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: But but yeah. What do you make of this of
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: the world is worrying about the U.S. 's heat issues?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious. It wasn't hotter than that in Qatar.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: They had to play that in the fall.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: So is America at that point where we got to
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: start having stuff like that in the Olympics, like when
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: they haven't.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Been like Australia? Like, are we are we at that?
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Is that the place that we have reached that you're
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: going to have to wait in order to do that?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: The wild thing is now, I mean, all these games
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: are in the South. They're going to be in indoor stadiums.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But you imagine going out into MetLife.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah, they're going to be in for a rude awakening.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Or Kansas City?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Washington, D.C. That one's sneaky.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: They're hoping they can get up there in Toronto and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Vancouver and Mexico City, although they're going to be at altitude.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Right. Ooh, yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I had never considered this being the case. Maybe the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: people from them hot-ass countries will have.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: A bit of an advantage.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's a real thing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You know, the.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Problem is all the countries I'm thinking about.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Would then lead to be saying things that one might
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: find to be a touch stereotypical.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm not.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: They made all this, I mean, they had to add
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: this mandatory water break, which of course they're obviously using
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: to do as a TV commercial timeout, and people were
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: very cynical about it, but I don't know, man, it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: going to be really hot.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is going to be hot. By the way,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: speaking of water, shout out to Zoran for bullying them
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: into letting people bring, it's the World Cup where he
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: had to bully people into letting them bring water, right?
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know where they weren't going to allow reusable
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: water bottles? Miami.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yo, I haven't been to Miami in four years.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: You know why? Because when I have time to go
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to Miami, I ain't going to fucking Miami.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: It's too hot.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Same thing about Houston. I'm from there.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I get there every year or two because when I
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: got time, it's too hot.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, times you have off. August. Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to Houston in August this year, boy, and man, that's.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: You are a very.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Very good friend. Yeah, I mean, I'm also a big fan.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's big fan and good friend all together.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: All right, and finally, artificial intelligence company Anthropic suggested Thursday
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: a global pause in building the most powerful AI systems.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: As the latest models are beginning to show signs they
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: could escape human control. Quote, we believe it would be
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: good for the world to have the option to slow
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: or temporary pause frontier AI development to enable societal structures
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: and alignment research to keep up with the advance of
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the technology. Bo, your thoughts.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Ryan, what was the name of the book?
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: If they build it, everyone dies.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Ryan and I both read this book. Ryan recommended it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to me. And it is about basically that if we
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: get to that point of superhuman AI, it's going to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: kill us. And there have been many simulations of people
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: doing this where they go to nuclear war.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: They go like they are.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: This is a thing. And the thing about that book,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about it on here before, but
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I think it bears repeating. The thing that I thought
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: was most interesting was, and I don't know if you
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: remember this, Ryan, but in the intro, these guys are
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: making it clear that we've done everything we can to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: not sound like raving lunatics. Yes.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: It's the first five pages. Yes.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Like this is as calmly as we can put it.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: And the name of the book is if someone builds it,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: everybody's going to die or everyone will die. That's them
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: trying to be cool about this. I don't know how
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: people don't understand what we've got here. I don't.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: It is, it is fat. It's, you know, it's something,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's very interesting that we see a lot
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: of this, like, I mean, this is anecdotal, but a
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: lot of this AI usage in people like 65 year
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: old plus and people very young. And that to me
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: is people who didn't grow up watching Terminator in the matrix.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: That is true. But I admit, I use it for
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: such reasons.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Largely mundane reasons, help me find places to go visit.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Give me a recipe that I can sneak spinach into
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: my toddler. Yes.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I have mapped out my travel plans. through like spring
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: of 2028. That's what I use.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: It for, okay? That's what I'm going for in this.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: These other people, because did you see.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: The thing where the guy was talking about it? I
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: think it was Sam Altman, but they're trying to see it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Sam Altman's like, I think that there should be a
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: privilege with the chatbot because people are using the chatbots
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: like they use therapists, like they use lawyers.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: But there is no privilege legally.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So if you get caught, they're just going to check
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: your logs with your therapist and to check your logs
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with your lawyer.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Like that is that is what they're going for.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: You know, because, you know, I've asked about some questions
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that are misdemeanors, but questions nonetheless, like like what they.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Travel related questions.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Nah, nah, nah.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: But what they've managed to do is they get you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: set to where if I have a question, it becomes
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: your default.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Is to go there.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I will make the point also that I think it's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: easy for Anthropic to say we need to stop development
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: because Anthropic has gotten so far that when you say Anthropic,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: people know it's an AI company, which is to say,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: They would, of course, like to stop development right now.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: They got a comfortable 3-1 lead.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: They're trying to stop the count.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's run four quarters.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Let's start whipping that ball around, baby.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we do not want you to implement a shot clock.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: There, there.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Clear out. Clear out. All right, cool. Cool. There we go.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo. A lot of good voicemails. Here's our first.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Hey, Bomani, Ian Shearer from Texas, your most favorite town
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: of Dallas. Just kidding. I'm really originally from back east. Anyway,
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: question posed to you, man. You talk about no go-to
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: for Wemba Nyama. What about two words, skyhook? I don't
• 45:34
  Speaker 7: hear anybody talking about it. Wemba Nyama, skyhook, seems unguardable
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: to me and would solve the big man versus tall
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: man thing. Would love your thoughts at some point. Long-time listener.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: Love what you do, brother.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Keep it up.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, I can only assume that the Skyhook is harder
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: than it looks.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: To me, it's obviously harder than it looks.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Because nobody's done it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: No one.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Kareem broke out.
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: The Skyhook 55 years ago, and nobody else is doing it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: I can only assume that it's just way harder than
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: it looks.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Now, Kareem has also said, nobody has asked me to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: work with them on the Skyhook. Now, Kareem, you know
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: what that's about. People don't like you. Don't nobody want
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to hang out with you long enough to have to
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: try to do this, to try to do this Skyhook.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, I didn't make it that way. Okay.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Did you read the Pearlman book on the Showtime Lakers? Yeah,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: It was a very interesting look at Kareem.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Very clear tough hang.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, that is the best. He didn't seem like a
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: bad guy.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Just tough hang.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Just a tough hang.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Although I was with Kareem on this. There's a part
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in this where they talk about where he had his
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: last game, the last game of the farewell tour. And look,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: everybody was ready for him to go. And he kept playing, honestly,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: because he didn't have any money because he got robbed.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: But he got real emotional, right? Kareem's not an emotional guy.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: He got real emotional about it. Corrine come back to
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the locker room and people thought it would be funny
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to cut up his jeans. And they're like, Kareem left
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and didn't speak to nobody. Of course he didn't left
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and didn't speak to anybody. What are you talking about?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Why is that funny?
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: That's not nice.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: What's the joke?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Right? Like, what's the punchline in this?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: What's the punchline in I have no pants?
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Also, do you know how hard it is for Kareem
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Abdul-Jabbar to find jeans? Yes, that is correct.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Those jeans cost $ 500. Right?
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Just the fabric.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: And also, like. I don't think he had two pairs
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: lying around.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, right. I didn't bring a second pair. Crazy thing.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I would also say this right fast.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Have you been playing 82 and 0?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: And for people who don't know, it's this game that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: lets you pick a player off a team from a
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: decade and you put together a five-man lineup and it
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: tells you whether your team is 82 or 0. I've
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: only gotten 81 and 1, but.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: The cheat code is Wilt.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: If you get either Wilt, either 60s Wilt or 70 Wilt,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: that is your cheat code. Ryan, have you ever seen
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: these clips of Wilt Chamberlain tossing sky hooks?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Like where Wilt is guarding Kareem and just tossing.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: His sky hooks.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he's playing volleyball.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: We have really, really somehow underrated Wilt.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I don't see how it's possible that we talk about
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Wilt like Wilt's some kind of loser. When Wilt retired,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the two NBA teams with the best records of all
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: time had one thing in common.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Wilt.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: That is what they had in common.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Wilt.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our next one.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Yo, Bahani, Ryan, how y'all doing? So, for a frequent
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: listener of the show, I feel like Joel from Missouri
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: City's influence has been more apparent, not just with the callers,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: but with.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Guests, too.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: It feels like this is the summer of hate. So,
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: my question to you, I know you're not a hater
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: in the sense, but there are some people you despise.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Number one, Hall of Fame, being Sugar Belt. But again,
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: as a lifter, I've been noticing someone's name come up
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: more and more. And that'd be, he's a dookie, so
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: I know that adds to it, but he's also a
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: mild human being. And that's Stephen Miller. Or Stephen, however
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: he says his name.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking about.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: That, that, he's a whatever. So I gotta ask, has
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: he stepped up on the list of you people that
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: you hate? Or is Stephen Miller.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Still number one?
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: Let us know.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: So the thing about where I got with Stringer Bell
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: is I felt like I had so many opponents that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: it required me to rise up.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Stephen Miller is just so easy.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's so crazy to me too, that he's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: like so much younger than me. And I will say this,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: you know, me and Stephen Miller have something in common.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And I think this is an underrated thing about him. Wow,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the look on your face when I said that. Both
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: of us helped start our careers in part due to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Duke Lacrosse. Like I was living in Durham at the time.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And so like I wrote some articles about it. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: get calls to go on TV about it, you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: so forth and so on. Stephen Miller was at Duke
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: at the time. And I don't know how more people
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: have not talked about this because this is really interesting.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: He made a big bet. You can go back and
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: find him having him on Fox News and stuff like
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that at the time. But he made a big bet
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that those boys were not guilty and got on TV
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: and was willing to say it. I don't know what
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: evidence he did or did not have, but he made
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a big bet on that.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: And it cashed in.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Like, that's what helps get him to all of these places,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: is that he went out there and rode for them
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: boys in a time where I will say that was
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a risky proposition to get out there and do it.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: He did it, and it cashed out. And this is
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: where it's gone. But, like, when that story, when that
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: first broke out and people were like, well, you know,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: they got a town gal situation in Durham, and they
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: were running all these crazy headlines for the Duke Chronicle,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: by Stephen Miller. Like, one of them I remember was
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: called Welcome to the Durham Petting Zoo by Stephen Miller.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Just in case you're curious, if ever you are looking
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: for two or three assholes, the editorial page of your
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: local smarmy private school is right there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one. Hey, Bomani.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: Love the show. Love the work you and Ryan do.
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to add to the continuing saga of
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: white people with names you would not expect. I, as
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: a fellow white person, this really threw me in for
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: a whirl, but... I'm working my summer job yesterday, my
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: first day, and I walked into the warehouse, and I
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: met Garrett.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: He was my supervisor.
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: He was really nice. And then I go to meet
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: a middle-aged white woman. I didn't have any expectations, obviously,
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: but she introduced herself, and I thought I misheard her,
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: but I got confirmation today. Her name is Lucretia.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I know you said it's always the Luz that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: You don't expect that. Even with that in mind, I
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: still didn't expect Lucretia. I just wanted to add to
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: the lore of the show.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, man, nothing like when you got to stop and
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: be like, I'm sorry, what did you say?
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: The white on white ones are my favorite of these.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'll tell you, man, when my
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: homeboy introduced me to his girl, Keisha, and I was like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was that? And she said, Keisha, and
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I never saw them again that night. And I've been
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: telling this story now for years, and my man, who
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I know is listening right now, not once has brought
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: it up to clarify. I deserve to heads up, is
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. But ladies and gentlemen,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumley handles
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: everything behind the scenes.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
• 52:53
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• 53:01
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• 53:03
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• 53:04
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