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Perfect Weekend? Tarik Skubal's comeback and a Tigers series win · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome in to another episode of Tiger Territory, part
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  Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network Detroit Tigers Podcast. I'm Karen
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  Speaker 1: Steckley with me. As always, there are a couple of
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  Speaker 1: guys who are more grand than they are rapid. Cody,
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  Speaker 1: David Hagen, Austin Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, fellas? How we doing?
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  Speaker 3: It's good? Uh? What's good? Bro Man?
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  Speaker 4: Hey doing good here? We've already had some rough days
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  Speaker 4: this season. We got a good day today, positive stuff
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  Speaker 4: to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the best Sunday, you know, if you take everything
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  Speaker 1: into consideration that the Tigers have had at least at
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  Speaker 1: quite some time now, and we'll get to the series
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  Speaker 1: win against Seattle that was obviously exciting. But Cody, you
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  Speaker 1: were at West Michigan. You saw Trek Scoople.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? I mean?
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  Speaker 1: I got the box score right here? Five innings, two
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  Speaker 1: heads for run, zero walks, six k's. He was so
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  Speaker 1: efficient that he had to throw in the bullpen afterward
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  Speaker 1: topped out ninety nine. Like, okay, we could read that.
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  Speaker 1: What actually happened? What's up with Terrek?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good day for Errek's scuble. I'm not really surprised,
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  Speaker 4: haven't watched him throw in his bullpens and his live vps.
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  Speaker 4: He had looked looked pretty much like Scooble to me.
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  Speaker 4: He had kind of reported that his velo was normal,
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  Speaker 4: but they weren't. They weren't putting a number on it,
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  Speaker 4: and they were not putting the numbers up for public view.
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  Speaker 4: So that was maybe my one question, is the villo
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  Speaker 4: going to be normal? Well, hit ninety nine, he sat
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  Speaker 4: ninety seven to ninety eight. That's that's that's pretty much
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  Speaker 4: normal for Errek's scuuble. So I'm not worried about that.
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  Speaker 4: He came out, to your point, through a lot of strikes.
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  Speaker 4: Thought he was going to get an immaculate inning. In
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  Speaker 4: his first inning, struck out two dudes in in six pitches,
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  Speaker 4: and then got one, and then a guy hits a
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  Speaker 4: week ground er a second. He wasn't high A rather
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  Speaker 4: than triple A because of the weather concerns, and you
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  Speaker 4: could you could tell, all right, these guys were swinging
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  Speaker 4: at anything and everything, and I don't necessarily blame them.
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  Speaker 4: So it wasn't the greatest litmus test in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the competition, but in terms of the stuff, man, I
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  Speaker 4: think this guy's ready for the major leagues. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know that he really needs to go to Toledo. He
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  Speaker 4: sounds like has a chance to pitch in five days
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  Speaker 4: against the Guardians. But that is the question everyone is asking,
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  Speaker 4: is he ready? Here is what Trek Scougle himself I
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  Speaker 4: had to say.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you're hoping to see out of yourself?
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  Speaker 5: And do we expect to see you pitch him for
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  Speaker 5: the Tigers like next week?
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question that I'm not going to answer.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's a plan in place. I'll you know,
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  Speaker 5: I need to wake up and feel better, you know,
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  Speaker 5: feel good tomorrow and have a good week of work.
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  Speaker 3: And then we'll make that decision. We'll even make it.
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  Speaker 5: But it doesn't really do me any good to tell
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  Speaker 5: you guys, when I'm pitching next, I need to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that I bounce back from this.
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  Speaker 3: One really well.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously what happens as he recovers is important. But for
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  Speaker 4: anyone who thinks Trek Scouble is no longer a company man,
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  Speaker 4: listen to that answer. He stuck to the company line.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like on on Twitter, when some politicians says
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  Speaker 1: something and it's like quote tweet, it's like he's running.
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  Speaker 2: It's like for Trek Schooble, it's like.
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  Speaker 1: He's pitching, you know, like he like he's serious, he's
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  Speaker 1: serious about this AJAX. I mean, first of all, do
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  Speaker 1: you have any experience with what those hitters were going through,
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  Speaker 1: like seeing like, oh my god, Trek Schoobel is on.
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  Speaker 2: The mound against me.
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  Speaker 1: And then also just like how reassuring is it if
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  Speaker 1: you're in that clubhouse to like, you know, you hear
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  Speaker 1: about like oh schoolbl went and dealed or whatever. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like how does that play in the clubhouse? And then
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  Speaker 1: what's it like doing the minor league rehab assignment on
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  Speaker 1: both sides against you?
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  Speaker 2: And just when it happens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's always it's a pretty.
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  Speaker 6: Cool experience when you know, you get an opportunity to
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  Speaker 6: face a big league when you're in the minor leagues
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  Speaker 6: because you're kind of getting a taste of somewhat I
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  Speaker 6: guess what what it would feel like if you were
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  Speaker 6: in the in the major leagues but you're knowing that
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  Speaker 6: the guys are coming down and working on stuff, but
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  Speaker 6: you don't care about that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're like, hey, this is my shot, this
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  Speaker 3: is my shot to prove that.
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  Speaker 6: I can be in the big leagues even though I'm
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  Speaker 6: in low way, and maybe if I, you know, do
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  Speaker 6: something against a big leaguer, you know, maybe they'll they'll
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  Speaker 6: I can open some eyes.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's always a cool opportunity.
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  Speaker 6: I think my I think I think I faced Clay Buckolds.
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  Speaker 3: In the minor leagues.
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  Speaker 6: I think he was doing a rehab stint, and it
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  Speaker 6: was pretty cool to face him because it's just different.
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  Speaker 6: You can tell there's a there's a difference in a
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  Speaker 6: in a major league arm compared to a minor league arm,
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  Speaker 6: and uh, it was just kind of cool to see
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  Speaker 6: where you stacked up against, you know, a major league player,
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  Speaker 6: a major league pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: So you kind of you're geared up.
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  Speaker 6: For it and you're you're you're swinging, you know, You're like,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not striking out. I'm I'm trying to see a
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  Speaker 6: fastball earlier or whatever it is. I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 6: off early on on this on this picture. So it's
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  Speaker 6: a cool experience. And you know, I definitely remember that.
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  Speaker 6: And what was the second What was the second one?
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  Speaker 2: You ask, Well, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Just like so like you're the Tigers, you're in the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 1: and like, oh, you're like schoop GOLs like.
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  Speaker 2: Back, you know what I mean, Like, what does that do?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean it it pumps, It pumps you up because he's
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  Speaker 6: the guy. You know, this isn't just some you know
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  Speaker 6: picture coming back and you know.
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  Speaker 3: To help the pitching staff out.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this is arguably, you know, the best picture
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  Speaker 6: in the in the game of baseball, and he's proven
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  Speaker 6: that over the past couple of years. So it you know,
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  Speaker 6: just as they were getting you know, position players back,
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  Speaker 6: and you saw what impact they had immediately on the games,
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  Speaker 6: getting your your cy young winner back, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 6: it's gonna ignite that clubhouse in that that pitching staff,
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  Speaker 6: that bull and you know, at least when he's pitching,
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  Speaker 6: is gonna appreciate it because you know, you know they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna get a little break and uh you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it just it ignites guys and you again, you see,
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  Speaker 6: you see what this team they did once they started
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  Speaker 6: to get some of the starters back, you know, they
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  Speaker 6: they're just it's a different ball club. It's a different
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  Speaker 6: ball club than than we've seen the past couple of months.
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  Speaker 6: When those guys were injured, right, like, when when the
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  Speaker 6: Tigers are healthy, they are one of the best teams
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  Speaker 6: in the American League and also probably in the league.
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  Speaker 6: So getting him back is gonna really kind of solidify
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  Speaker 6: them as being who we thought they were, you know,
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  Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the league. So yes,
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  Speaker 6: it is definitely gonna ignite that that team, is gonna
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  Speaker 6: ignite that pitching staff, you know, to get everybody back
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  Speaker 6: in their regular role so they can kind of get
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  Speaker 6: this this momentum again going into you know, the All
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  Speaker 6: Star break.
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  Speaker 1: Ky, that's a great transition to what we saw this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't want to Is there anything else regarding
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  Speaker 1: Schooble that we need to get into or can we
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  Speaker 1: go to the major league club?
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean I think that covers the big thing.
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  Speaker 4: My other take was just like it was kind of
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  Speaker 4: a moment to reflect on his journey. It is still
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  Speaker 4: very easy to forget. Trek's scouble made eight of his
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  Speaker 4: first nine professional appearances as a reliever. The first time
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  Speaker 4: he pitched for the West Michigan White Caps, he was
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  Speaker 4: coming out of the pin He's a ninth drum pick,
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  Speaker 4: no one knew who he was, and eight years later
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  Speaker 4: he comes back and it is all eyes on him,
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  Speaker 4: packed out crowd, tickets going for like a couple thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars if someone was trying to get him in there
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  Speaker 4: to see Trek's scooble, and not just that, but both
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  Speaker 4: locally and nationally, given what he means to the Tigers,
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  Speaker 4: given all the speculation about the trade deadline and all that. Like,
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  Speaker 4: he is kind of at the center of every conversation
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  Speaker 4: of the sport right now. So just another time to
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  Speaker 4: appreciate his his rise to this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I'll tell you I today was my
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  Speaker 1: dad's seventy fifth birthday. So we were watching the Tigers game,
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  Speaker 1: watching school start, and he's just like ge d it, like,
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  Speaker 1: don't trade him, you know, like he's just like get
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  Speaker 1: all the emotions. You know, he's like pay him, you
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  Speaker 1: know all this stuff. So so, you know, Pride a
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  Speaker 1: great memory for me in addition to all the other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, watching him pitch is always a treat. And
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  Speaker 1: then uh, seeing just like how remarkable it is that
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  Speaker 1: he's doing this now. Don't we want to get lost
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  Speaker 1: on that either, Like how remarkable it is that you know,
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  Speaker 1: given like four or five weeks ago or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: we're thinking the worst and here he is like just
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  Speaker 1: dealing ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: May sixth, we're saying this on June seventh, he's throwing
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  Speaker 4: ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, dude, Like that's wild.
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  Speaker 1: Like everything else we could get to and it's all important,
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  Speaker 1: but that stuff right there, man, that is crazy.
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  Speaker 6: But hey, real though, Cody, like real, sorry here, Like
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  Speaker 6: what what's more impressive though, the fact that he was
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  Speaker 6: able to reach that type of VLO after you know,
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  Speaker 6: a surgery, or the fact.
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  Speaker 3: That he you know, he was so efficient yea with
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  Speaker 3: what do you think?
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  Speaker 4: I actually think it's a little tough to judge the
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  Speaker 4: efficiency based on the swings I was seeing again, they're
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  Speaker 4: swinging at kind of everything. He's still you know, he
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  Speaker 4: seemed pretty pleased with his execution and his shapes. He
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  Speaker 4: said there are a few changeups that weren't exactly to
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  Speaker 4: his liking. They are. There are actually some two strike
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  Speaker 4: counts where the ball got put in play, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. They were swinging so early and so often
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  Speaker 4: that although it's good that he's filling up his own
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  Speaker 4: and for the most part giving him stuff to Hicks,
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  Speaker 4: he's trek Scougle, Like that's the one thing that will
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  Speaker 4: be a little different when he gets to the major leagues.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm not really worried about that either, just because
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  Speaker 4: from the first there's bullpen. I've watched him throw, he's
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  Speaker 4: looked like himself. Like it's never really looked like this
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  Speaker 4: is a guy coming off surgery. And that's probably because
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  Speaker 4: he never had to do some full shut down and
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  Speaker 4: build up like he he's. Yeah, I think he's Trek Scuoble.
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  Speaker 4: And though that is remarkable, it's kind of not surprising
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  Speaker 4: because that's just that's just how he looked.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, if we transition to you know,
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  Speaker 1: the major league club, we can go back for a second. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I know, Cody, you weren't there on Sunday, but this
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  Speaker 1: was a like a well anticipated weekend for the Tigers
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  Speaker 1: because look he oh my god, the sweep Tampa Bay,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the guys are healthy again,
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  Speaker 1: Like what's up with this Seattle hot team?
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  Speaker 3: And like.
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  Speaker 1: The bats stay alive on Friday, silent on uh on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: But they do just you know, they do just enough
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  Speaker 1: to win, you know, win the series. But anyway, was
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  Speaker 1: the vibe better because I know you were not with
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  Speaker 1: the team on the road trip vibes and environment like
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, But how was that this weekend?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously prior to Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: A few wins helps man kind of feels like night
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  Speaker 4: and day. It's funny how that works. Yeah, you just
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  Speaker 4: get a few wins, get the bats going, get a
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  Speaker 4: couple guys back. Vibe seemed a lot better. Maybe just
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  Speaker 4: when I maybe it's just Jason Bennetti around, joking around.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone likes to have a good time when Bennette's there,
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  Speaker 4: and he's so witty and so funny. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: I just heard some banter even you know, my short
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  Speaker 4: time in the clubhouse that I felt like I hadn't
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  Speaker 4: heard in weeks. So yeah, a few wins tend to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And it's also funny like the difference in
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  Speaker 4: the narrative. If the star rookie Kevin McGonagall doesn't kind
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  Speaker 4: of carry to them to that win on Sunday, if
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  Speaker 4: they would have lost another series had kind of a
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  Speaker 4: sleepy performance, I don't know that we'd be feeling great.
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  Speaker 4: But that's not how things work out. McGonagall gets the
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  Speaker 4: big hit, and it's like, wow, they just won another
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  Speaker 4: series against the first place team. They've won five of six.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of crazy to say there's still twelve games under
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  Speaker 4: five hundred. They got a long way to go still,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, in terms of getting back in the race,
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  Speaker 4: they're doing the right things. They're off to a good
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  Speaker 4: start in the mission to salvage their season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think if I remember correctly, they're five and
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  Speaker 1: a half out of the Texas Rangers, who had the
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  Speaker 1: last wildcard spot, which you know June seventh. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ball games be played now in order
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  Speaker 1: to kind of see uh, very doable. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: that the Tiger or I think Tigers fans and then
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  Speaker 1: internally they can kind of discuss this however they would,
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  Speaker 1: is that all the teams in front of them have
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  Speaker 1: either their own doubts or the outside doubts, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously the Tigers have their fair share of that too.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they're in this spot. But there should be
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  Speaker 1: some sort of confidence that brings from the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you're not chasing the twenty seven Yankees, you're not chasing
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twelve Tigers, You're not chasing the twenty thirteen Tigers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're you're chasing teams that have their own flaws,
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  Speaker 1: So like that part should be some sort of galvanizing effort,
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  Speaker 1: and I would characterize Sunday's game as a galvanizing effort.
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  Speaker 1: So McGonagall has the home run, that's awesome. He has
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  Speaker 1: to walk off, you know, two runs single, that's awesome too.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the box score here, guys. This
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  Speaker 1: was a bottom bottom of the order when with respect
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  Speaker 1: to what McGonagall did his first career, walk off all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. Not trying to dismiss that at all, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read the box score right here. Kerry
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  Speaker 1: Carpenter oh for three, Matt Erling who came in for Carrie,
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  Speaker 1: oh for two. Kay McGonagall, like we said, two for
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  Speaker 1: two for four, he had the three Ribi's labor Taurus,
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  Speaker 1: Rodley Green over three, Dylan Dingler over three, Cole Keith
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  Speaker 1: over one, Jami Jones over one, Zack Short oh for one,
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  Speaker 1: and then torque he has a single that leads the
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  Speaker 1: rally ending there in the seventh Zab mc kinstry two
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  Speaker 1: for three, Wentzel Perez two for three with the excuse
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  Speaker 1: me one for three for McKinstry, Wentzel Paris two for three,
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  Speaker 1: including the triple that brought him within a run. So
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  Speaker 1: those are guys that, in their own degree have been
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  Speaker 1: much beligned and they kind of did the grunt work
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  Speaker 1: to carry this team to a series victory. And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's important to point out, not just the
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  Speaker 1: McGonagall heroics, which are great too.
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  Speaker 4: Does that make sense, I would say it was a
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  Speaker 4: well done. I would also say about damn time just
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  Speaker 4: bought him in. The order has been rough for a while,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to spin that into a positive, like
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, imagine if one of those guys gets going,
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  Speaker 4: two of those guys get going a little bit, because
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  Speaker 4: we have not seen that really to this point in
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  Speaker 4: the season.
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  Speaker 6: Man, But that's what's gonna that's what's gonna help, you know,
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  Speaker 6: get through some of these stretches. You know, you got
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  Speaker 6: it offensively, You're gonna have to have the bottom of
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  Speaker 6: the order carry you through some of these games to
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  Speaker 6: lengthen out that lineup. I know we talked about the
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  Speaker 6: Guardians and what make them so good, Well, there was
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  Speaker 6: a stretch there where the bottom of the order, the
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  Speaker 6: bottom of the lineup was really kind of carrying the
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  Speaker 6: team for a little bit, and that's where they were
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  Speaker 6: winning games.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't like winning games.
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  Speaker 6: Super pretty, but they were always in the game because
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  Speaker 6: the bottom of the lineup was getting on base and
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  Speaker 6: kind of extending the lineup for the top of the order,
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  Speaker 6: you know, and then you had some some more dangerous
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: bats coming up with runners in scoring position, and a
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  Speaker 6: lot of that was happening because.
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  Speaker 3: Of the bottom of the lineup.
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  Speaker 6: Was was flipping it was flipping it over to the
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  Speaker 6: top of the lineup, and they were getting on base.
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  Speaker 6: They were having like those good at bats, and those
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  Speaker 6: are the type of things that that kind of help
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  Speaker 6: teams out in stretches when they're when they're struggling off,
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  Speaker 6: struggling offensively a little bit. When you can get a
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  Speaker 6: couple of guys at the bottom of the order, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 6: nine guys getting on base, you know, creating havoc on
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  Speaker 6: the base pass man, I'm telling you that that really changes.
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  Speaker 3: A team when they're struggling.
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  Speaker 6: You know, if everybody struggling, the bottom of the order
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  Speaker 6: or the top of the order is doing well, but
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: the bottom of the order isn't producing and able to
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: get on base for the top of the order, so
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: you know, those guys are really having to carry the
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: team and carry the most of the load offensively.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: When you can get a couple of guys.
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: At the bottom of the order to get high and
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: really stay there, it's not necessarily need those guys to
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: be heroes. We just need you to produce, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: produce a little bit at the bottom of the order.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: That that puts a lot of stress.
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: On pictures because now they have to plan not only
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: for the top of the order guys, the guys that
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: they know can do damage with one swing, but now
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: we're having to make up playing around a whole bunch
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: of guys that we were expecting really just to be
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: easy out and now these are the guys that we
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: are mainly concerned about because if we don't get them out,
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: now we're having to flip this order around to the
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: top of this lineup, where we know guys are very
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: capable of changing the game with one swing. So I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: this is what gets got this week. Gets teams out
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: of those tough stretches offensively when you can get the
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: bottom of the order guys to start producing a little
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: bit like again, it's not about being a hero. It's
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: just about getting on base, right, like getting on base,
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: getting some hits. It doesn't have to be home runs.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: It just has to be working counts, getting on base,
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: creating havoc on the base pass. And I mean the
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: game looks different, The lineup looks different. When the bottom
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: of the order is producing a little bit, the whole
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: lineup just it looks different as a whole. So now
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: I'm having to pitch to guys that we actually that
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: we we're thinking that we had to make this plan around,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: game plan around. Now I'm having to pitch to those
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: guys because the bottom of the order is constantly getting
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: on base and they're causing causing havoc. So if those
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: guys continue to be able to produce at the bottom
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: of the lineup, man, it makes this lineup look completely different.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Because now this lineup looks it looks long. Now it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: like where do we go. You know, we're not just
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: concerned about the top guys. Now you got guys at
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: the bottom of the order. They're producing, they're performing at
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: a high level, and then you get you know, you
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: get that top of that order hot. This lineup looks
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: different it looks like the lineup that we thought they
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: could be.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think, like, you know, we consider
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Dingler a star.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: We consider Riley Green.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Like a MFN dude, you know, be an All star again,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: So we're with respect and McGonagall obviously, you know is McGonagall.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So with respect to those guys. The Tigers are at
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: their best when they feel like a complete team. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I think one of the guys that really makes him
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: feel like a complete team is one Zach McKinstry. And
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that is my way of saying that Tiger territory is
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: brought to you by FanDuel. So we have a daily
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Dinger pick, and I'm and I'm gonna make Zach McKinstry
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the pick. Zach McKinstry is obviously not a home run player,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but he is a metaphorical home run player.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Like this is a guy that is.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, like one of those guys that like
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is a true catalyst for this lineup. And I don't
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: believe it's a coincidence that when he is not going offensively,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: it feels like the team is not going offensively. And
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'll take home runs out of it for a second. Here,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: He does not have a triple yet this year, which
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: seems nuts. And I went back and looked at his
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: first triples of the season the past couple of years,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty three it was June third, so obviously
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not that much different than now.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But twenty twenty four it was Abril twenty seventh.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Last year it was opening day, so like, you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it feels different with Zach McKinstry's gapping balls and reaking
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: havoc on the bases, and to his credit today, you know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: he drew the walk and ended up you know, you know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: being part of the you know, the rally and multiple
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: fastests today and also was a part of Naylor play,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: which we'll get to a little bit later. But like
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Cody and like, do I have a decent read on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: this where it's like, if Zach McKinstry's going, it feels
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: like a really good chance that the Tigers are going.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that relates to exactly what
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Austin just said, or like if you can have production,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: you know, mcinstrey's generally going to be toward in the
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: bottom half of that order. If you can have some
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: sort of production or havoc or pressure coming from those spots.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: It makes a difference, and last year Zach McKinstry was
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: that guy, especially in the first half. There have been
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: other pointon is Tiger's tenure where he has totally been
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: a spark plug. That's that's kind of been the issue
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: for this team. We've talked about a lot. Riley Green
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: has done his job every day, Dylan Dingler has done
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: his job, Kevin McGonagall has done his job, and beyond that,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you haven't got a lot. At least Spencer torkl Sin's
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: ran into some homers every now and then, and then
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: you've had you know, you get six, seven, eight nine.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It's just been a black hole. There's been It's not
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: just guys haven't quite performed. It's it's been nothing. It's
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: been below two hundred batting averages. It's been no power.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Not trying to be mean, that's just been the reality.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: McKinstry one of those dudes you would like to see
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: get going.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's one war so far this year is crazy.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: Well to your point, Kieran though, like he is like
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: that spark plug. He's almost like that that that leadoff
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: hitter in any it, like any role he's hit or
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: any spot he's.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Hitting in because of what he's able to do with the.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Bat, right, Like, there are certain guys like Torquesen where
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: he's probably not gonna hit a triple right like Wentz
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: he I mean he.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Might, but that's not really like.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Like his like like he didn't have that slasher game
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: like that. Like I feel like there's only a few
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: positions that you can probably put him where it fits
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: his style of play. But McKinstry is one of those
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: guys where you can kind of you can kind of
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: slot him anywhere and he can provide power. He can
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: provide a good at bat, get on you know, on base,
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: he can provide some some havoc on the base.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Pass Like that's that slasher that you that you really need.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: And when he's going like that's that's interesting you talk
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: about like the triple like that should be his type
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: of game, right, like with a little bit of pop.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: But like gap to gap, he's a guy like you
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: can slot in there and he can change a lineup
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: because his his skills kind to stretch further than a
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: lot of the other guys that they have. Like again,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: you can you could put him up in the lineup.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: You could put him down in the lineup and his
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: his his skill set really kind of plays anywhere you
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: put him. Like, he's not a guy that you have
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: to hit up in the order. He's not a guy
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: that you necessarily need to hit down the order. You
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: just put him in there and he just creates that
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: that pressure for the opposing team. So, yeah, to your point,
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: when he gets going, it does it does make the
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: lineup look different because of his ability to do so
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: many things offensively that you know, he showed that last
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: year that it's a matter of time for his bat
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: to get going, and what he's capable of doing on
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: the defensive end, that just makes this team just it
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: makes it special really and it.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Gets overlooked a lot.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, guys like him that don't you know,
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: they don't have necessarily that star power, but they have,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: you know, a presence though in the lineup and in
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: the locker room. They can really make a team you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: kind of get over that hump when they're struggling.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: So he'll get going, he get going.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I meant that kind of aura about him, you know
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: what I mean.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Quick quick stat for you guys, if you want to
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: see what Zach McKinstry needs to do. He just needs
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: to hit the ball on the line easier sudd than done.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: But just hit it online. Don't even have to be
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: hit that hard. Hit it online. Zach McKinstry was one
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: of the best in line drive right launch angle sweet
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: spot percentage. He hit the ball on the line twenty
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: nine percent of the time. This year, that line drive
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: percentage is down to eighteen point six, so pretty big dip.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: It's he's hitting it on the ground more, he's popping
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: it up more, just not making quality contact all.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: The way around.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: And that's that's probably the easiest way to explain why
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the production hasn't been there.
• 24:52
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• 24:54
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• 24:57
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, got to talk about another
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kind of pivot moment in the game on Sunday, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: unfortunately only it's been a reoccurring theme this season, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that's Jamai Jones, and I say this with respect coming
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in in crucial situation because he is supposed to be
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the guy who hits lefties and and coming up short.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: There's the seventh inning.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Trying to get the play by play here, real quick
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: comes up in the seventh inning with the bases loaded,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: pinch hitting, and he uh did he strike out? He uh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I lost to play by play, but he
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: came up short. I'm sorry, I don't have the exact
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: play in front of me. And if you look at
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: the stats, there's not a lot of splits. There's not
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of situations, there's not a lot of things
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to kind of hang on to for Jamai Jones this year.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: This is a player who has been who is his goal.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: His job is a very specific job. It's a hard job,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: but it's one that he is currently not doing. So
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I talked earlier about the team is at its best
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: when it's complete Jami Jones, and theory is very much
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: part of this, like complete team where you can bring
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in this left to killer, it's just not happening.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Cody, Yeah, what do we think?
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Been one of many difficult conversations this year? If you
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: think back to spring training when we were kind of
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: talking about like where the roster competitions was, this was
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: a big one. Then I ultimately landed on we'll like
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: they got to take Jami Jones. The guy had a
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: nine to seventy ohps against left handed pitching. That was
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: his whole thing. But we also said, like given he's
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: one dimensional. They don't like to play him in the field.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: He's really just that specialist. Might the leash be kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: of short? Well, given all their injuries, it has been
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: a normal length, you know leash. But Jami's four for
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: his last fifty with nineteen k's that is a tough stretch.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: And we also talk all the time, like we know
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: he has the hardest job man coming in facing the
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: nasty reliever. But last year when he had that nine
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: to seventy oh ps, it was a small sample. It
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: was one hundred and twenty nine at bats. This year
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: he's already threw seventy eight at bats. So is this
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: sample small anymore or like was last year? Just the
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: small sample? It's getting tough. But the the problem here
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: is I don't know that they necessarily have a better answer.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: They don't really have a right handed bat in Tledo
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: built to fill that role. I mean, I don't know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Cory Jolkes. Maybe everyone likes Max Anderson. Go look at
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: his stats against ninety five mile an hour fastballs. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: wrote it in a mail bag a couple of weeks ago.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: And Max Anderston is still a talented young guy who
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: you probably want playing every day, and you want getting
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: experience in the field because he has to get better there.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: So it's a little bit of a dilemma with Jami Jones.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: You'd love to see him get going. But four for
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: fifty Austin, what a man? What's alike when a guy's
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: four of fifty.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: First of all, that's like it's like a gift in
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: curse right to have this skill set where because like
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: where you get where you hit lefties, and and for me,
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: like just I remember where that was a role that
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: I had to kind of accept later.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: In my career.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna be honest with y'all, I didn't even
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: know I hit lefties like that. You know, were like,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: oh man, you're a lefty killer. I was like, what
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: what are you talking about? Oh you look at the stats.
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't want to face no lefty, Like
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: I don't want to face a lefty.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I feel way more comfortable against writing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: But that was just a product of me playing every
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: day and kind of getting in the flow of the game.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: And you know, so then when I faced a lefty,
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: most likely it was because I've you know, had that bat,
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: so I've kind of you know, had, I've got my
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I just had a flow of the game. It wasn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: until I was in that role that I realized how
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: freaking are that role was because you're not just facing
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: you know, just soft toss and lefties anymore. You're facing
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: ninety eight ninety nine, you know, fuzzballs every time.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, this isn't that I don't hit these.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: Type of lefties. These are different left This is different
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: right here. This is a tough role, man. And then
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: it's tough too because they know that he can hit.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: You know, that's that's his role, that's what he's been
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: good at, and they and and that's the role that
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: he's you know, he's been chosen to have or whatever.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: So but he they're still you know, they figure him
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: out as well.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: You know, the league figures you.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: Out, just like they're gonna figure out certain guys that
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: they haven't had a lot of information on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: They're gonna figure him out. They're gonna figure out where
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: his holes are.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: And then there's that pressure to to, you know, succeed.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: In that role.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: It's a lot of pressure when you know, this is
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: the role that I've been chosen to that they want
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: me to have, and I'm trying to succeed in this
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: role and I'm facing these nasty lefties. Look, I ain't
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: making no excuses. I'm just saying the job isn't really
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: as as easy as it's.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Made out to be.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: So it could just be one of them those those years,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, or just one of those
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: times in the year where he could possibly get going,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: you know, sooner than later.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: We never know. It could be one that bad.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: It could be one series, It could be one lefty
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: to get them locked in. Heck, it might even be
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: him starting and facing a righty he gets him locked in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Who knows. It's just it's tough really to tell what's
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: the reason why he's struggling the way that he has.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: But it's something to pay attention to, though, because you
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: need a guy that can hit lefties. You need that
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: righty that you can count on in moments to hit
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: lefties and hopefully he can get it going. Hopefully it's
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: just a timing issue. Maybe it's a mechanical issue that
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: we deal with throughout the season, you know, like when
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: we put that pressure on ourselves, you know, in that
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: role to be the best in that role. You know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: we start to press a little bit, we start to
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: forget that, hey, I do this, this is what this
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: is what they got me.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: For, Like, this is what they have me for.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: This role is because I've been good at it, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: now I'm just pressing a little bit. I'm putting a
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: little bit too much pressure on myself to be better
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: than I was. Instead of just kind of doing the
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: things that I've typically done, now I'm trying to do
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: a little bit more. Maybe I'm trying to hit for
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: a little bit more power in certain situations, in certain
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: counsel or whatever it may be. You know, it's hard
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: to really put, you know, a finger on what it
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: is and the reason why he's been struggling against lefties
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: the way he has or just in general. But you
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: know what's in there, you know what's in there, you
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: know what he's capable of. So that's why it's kind
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: of hard to be like, well, you know, you want
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: to again to your point, Cody, it's a small, simple size,
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: so you just want to see it play out. And
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I think that eventually maybe with some more at bats
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: against righties.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds crazy, right like, because he's supposed
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: to be a lefty lefty specialist.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: Sometimes facing that righty it does something with keeping that
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: that shoulder in there, man, like, it does something. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: I believe that with with me, like it was like, no,
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I kind of need to see some rightys. They might
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: not let him see the righties. He might not get
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: those at bats, you know what I mean, Like he's
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: probably not going to get those at bats. But I'm
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: saying that sometimes it just takes a different look, you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: to get things, get things back on track, get things back.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: And maybe it's it's it's giving up the power swing.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I know that sounds crazy because you want the power
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: right that he's had the power against lefties, But I
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: think it's sometimes just kind of reinventing who you are
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: for a second to get yourself back on track. And
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: that might that might be just simply what it is
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: is to get him going and.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Hopefully keep that role because he's he's done.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: It will Karen pointed this out earlier, But Jamai Jones
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: oh for fourteen against righty's this year, which tells me
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: two things. He don't get to face righty's ever fourteen
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: of bats all year.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: He's probably games that were already over.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and well at least a couple of them were
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: big leverage at bats that the manager got criticized for
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: having Jamai still in there. And also he doesn't have
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: an edit against the right stuff.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Well, like here's the thing, like to Austin's point, like
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: it's an impossible job to get a rhythm, Like it's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just not a rhythm job like that. That's kind of
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the bottom line. And if it feels like we're coming
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: off a little soft on Jemi, also the bottom line
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is he's just not getting the job done. So like
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: both of these things are true. And I'll and I'll
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: just say this, like you look at is it bad?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It was the sixth inning, the basically loaded there were
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: two outs. He comes in basing a lefty. Here are
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the four pitches that he saw sinker ninety nine miles
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: an hour just at the top of his zone. A
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: miss fouled off, another ninety nine mile hour sinker right
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: out at the top of the zone as well. Then
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: there's a ball that's way out up and up and outside,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and then he it's also ninety nine by miles an
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: hour sinker and then another nine think too that he
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: uh that he like pops up in shallows center that
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: for a second you thought maybe it might like be
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: one of those that kind of falls in between. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Rodriguez obviously a great center fielder, and he
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: tracks it down with these but like, okay, cool man,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: you're cold off the bench. Here's for nine nine mile
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: hour sinkers and.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: A bas is loaded with two hours, go do it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And and to Cody's larger point, I don't like, like
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: who else is gonna have that job that you're gonna
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: feel like you can kind of throw out there with
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: any level of confidence.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And that's that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: That's probably one of the problems that's that's it is
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: one of the problems that's playing the Tigers right now
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: is that that role is there not being done and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: they're or and or It's just there's not really any
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: other options.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I would say, you want you want Colt.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Keith in there facing nine to nine on our sinkers up,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So like JAMAI like all that advice.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I hope he listens and you know, takes Ajax advice
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is just kind of like hey, reset the mind a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, just kind of like change things
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: up to try to just kind of get out of
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: this kind of season long funk because like there's some
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: security in the fact that no one's really coming for
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: your job, but your job's also not guaranteed. So it's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that it's that it's that fine line. And just like
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: a closer, the saves are loud, The blown saves are loud.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: You know, if you're one of these specialists that comes
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: up in and leverage situations, the big hits are loud,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and the strikeouts or flyouts or whatever with the basic
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: loan and two outs are also loud.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of that's that's kind.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Of the job.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: That is uh, that is kind of the job.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: All right, we are going, yeah, we are going to
• 36:58
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• 38:11
  Speaker 1: One of the themes, and probably at Kevin McGonagall not
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: played Hero on Sunday. We might be talking about this
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a lot earlier in the podcast. But Josh Naylor, I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: don't know how else to say it respectfully other than
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: dude does extra. He does extra, whether it's you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: running across the bag on a bang bang play at
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: first base, whether it's sliding and kind of barrel rolling
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a little bit in the second base, whether it's throwing
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the mit you know, at home play on a play
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: at the plate that could obviously cause some interference, whether
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it's called or not. And just like his demeanor, he
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is a extra and so I'm just kind of curious.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I got my opinion on it, uh, but I want
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I want, I want the professional, the journalists and the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: former former big leaguer to kind of weigh on it first.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll start with you, Austin, Well, what what do
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: you make of Josh Naylor and being Josh Naylor?
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, everybody has that that thing about him, right,
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Some guys choose to let it play out in in
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: in public, you know, and some guys choose to do
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: it in privacy. And he's one of those guys. Is like,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: I don't care what you think about me. I don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: care that how you feel about me, how I play
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: the game, And that's that's just him. He's gonna do
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: whatever he feels that he needs to do to to win,
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: to win a game. And you love to have that
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: guy on your team, but when you're playing against him, you.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Like, really bro like really like you really just did that.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: But but again, it's one of those things that like
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: I haven't had too many of those guys on my team.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: I haven't played with too many of those guys, but
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: I played against a few. And you know, it does
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: it does something right like it it does get under
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: your skin a little bit. But I think that's the plan.
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: I think that's all what it is. It's just like
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: you don't like it, but I don't care, like do
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: something about it, like what you're gonna do? You know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: And it's and that's how he plays. He has that
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: demeanor about him like I'm gonna do me, You do you,
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: and we'll we'll see how it turns out at the
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: at the end. You know, like I'm not I'm not
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: gonna necessarily do something that's going to cause harm to
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: your life, but I'm I'm I'm gonna do a little
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: something to kind of irritate you a little bit. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: that's that's how it is. Man some that you know,
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: when you're able to get into the opposing team's head,
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: it does something and it kind of creates that tension, right,
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: and it kind of gets you out of your game
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: a little bit, right, Like you start thinking about revenge.
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: And you start thinking about all this stuff, and it's just.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Like I got you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: I got you right where I wanted you to, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: I got you out of your game a little bit.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: And that's just how it is.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Draymond Green, Baby, Draymond Green. Hey, that man right there,
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: he get you out of your game. You know what
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I think that's what it is some guys,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: you know, and and let's not get it twisted. Like Nayla,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Like he's talented, he could play the game right, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: he has that little bit of Draymond in him where
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: it's like, hey, I'm gonna do a little bit of extra, right,
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Like I'm gonna do a little bit of extra to
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: get your irritated, to get you out of your game.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: Because that's what it's all about. Like I'm just gonna
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: do something to get you out of your game. Like
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: that's that's the game, that's the game plan anyways, and
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: what you're gonna do about it, you know, like feel
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: how you want to feel about me doing this, But
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: at the end of the day, it's like what you're
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: gonna do about Like I'm playing the game and that's
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: that's part of it. As part of it is trying
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: to get you out of your game, to make you
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: come out of yourself or come out of your character.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: And then I got you. Then I got you.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: As soon as I get you out of character a
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: little bit, or get you mad or throwing at me
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: and doing all this stuff.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get on base. You ain't gonna hurt me.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I'm two hundred and fifty pounds, you hit me, I'm
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: just gonna get on base. You know what I mean?
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Now on base, I can still, I can get on bait.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: I can create hav it a little bit.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: So it's just.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: All to get into the opponent's head. And he does
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: a good job at it.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, let me see if I can thread
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: this needle or let's let's go back to another old
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: ad it two things can be true. So one thing
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I think is true. Josh Naylor deserved what ended up happening.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: He got hit. I'm pretty sure is intentional. Of course,
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: Tigers gonna say it wasn't. I thought the play at
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: first with McGonagall was pretty reckless, whether it was intentional
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: or whatever. Like, it's pretty reckless. Someone could have got
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: hurt there, and the guy who got hurt was going
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: to be the smaller guy run into first base. Josh
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Naylor's probably lucky that didn't end worse than it did.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: The slide into second It was old school, but it's
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: man that's pushing the boundary of that rule. The throwing there,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: the sliding mid at Dingler is that's just a pesky
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: thing to do. Man, That's just like poking your little
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: brother and asking to get hit. Right. So, I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: the Tigers had every right to be pissed at Josh
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Naylor this series, But also watching that as a neutral
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: third party observer, I'm like, Tigers need a guy like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: When's the last time you saw or saw video of
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the Tigers decoding and relaying signs from second base? Never
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: done happened because they're not good at it. When's the
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: last time you saw a Detroit Tiger just irritating an opponent?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: I find things example like that. In seven eight years
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: are covering this team, they just have not had guys
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: with that level of personality. They've had guys who play
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: the game hard, but they haven't really had that like
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: that irritant or even anyone kind of that level of
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: like dirt bag where you know, I know it's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: cliche thing to say, but what Colt Keith said, like
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: you love him if you're you're his teammate, and you
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: hate him if you're playing against him. I think that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Josh Naylor to a tea. And I actually think this
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Tiger's team could greatly benefit from maybe they should channel
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: their inner Josh Naylor just a little bit more every
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: now and then.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's true, And I think, like my thoughts
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: on this are I'm glad you brought up that Colt
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Keith quote because I thought it was like refreshing but
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: also kind of bowld at the same time, where it's.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean you love him?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: He's not on your team, so just say that you
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: hate him? Just say that that is bs what he did,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like just be like that,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: like show like that you want somebody.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: To play like down the field.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: How about the first step would be talk about it
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: after the game, you know, to the press like that
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: would that would be my opinion? And also like you know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like did he have it coming to him when he
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: like got thrown allegedly thrown at all?
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Fine?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Whatever, I would rather McKinstry, give him a knee in
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the neck when he barrels into him, then throw at
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: his shoulder.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: In the game.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: That's just my opinion because because at least you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you throw it him, you get to base.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Like ay Jack said, he's.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Already out, he's on your body. That's when you get
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the little extra shot in if you if you want
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to play that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Zach mcinstry mcauseey probably doesn't have that in him.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Because he's a he's a good, wholesome soul. But like
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: but like somebody Hobby might have done it. You know,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Labor might have done it in that situation if he was,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you know, covering the bag.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: But like or Zach Short, a guy.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: With nothing to lose, I'd have been doing something in
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: my opinion, you know what I mean. So like those
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: kinds of things like like Naylor is a like I'm
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: glad everybody has it on.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: The table that he is. Like that hit, he had
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: shoulder length outside.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, base hit like like he is
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: an actual good baseball player, So I'm not trying to
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: take anything away from that. That also gives you more
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: opportunities to kind of needle him a little bit more
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: than just plunking them. In my opinion, like he comes in,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: he comes into your base, you can you have plenty
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: of opportunity to do so. If he is on first base,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you can, you know, slide it there a little bit,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: maybe step on his foot when he's running. Like, there's
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you can do. There's a lot
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: of stuff you can do. The tires don't do any
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of that because they don't think to do any of that,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and that might be part of their problem. Naylor thinks
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to do that stuff. And also about that life for
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: your season, Ah, you're fighting for your season, get out.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: That light because you gonna know what's gonna come with that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Like if you gonna drop a knee, then you you
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: know if something might happen after that. Are you about
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: that life? Are you about that life? If fifty two
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: sixty get up? Are you gonna you still about that life?
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: If you are, didn't go ahead drop that knee, but
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: don't look over that at me, like I'm gonna come
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: over there and he'll be like, you dropped your knee.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: So you need to have that life, dude, I'm fine
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: for my life.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, by what By the way, you know
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: why he's doing that. You know why he's doing that
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: because you know you ain't gonna do.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Squad about it.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: That's why that's why he's doing life. Karen, Like if
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: he like, look, if he knew he was gonna get
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: knee in the neck. You think he's going into mckissy's legs.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: But I'm not do it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, I am proud to be on this podcast.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: We got a guy in Austin Jackson who in twenty
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: seventeen had no ps of over a thousand against left
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: handed pitching, and we got Karen Steckley who's ready to
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: fight Josh Naylor. I think we've solved that problem. Ad
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: these guys to the roster.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Gear it over.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: He's gonna drop a knee, Okay.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Bro, I didn't even know you had that in you.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: And now like we on the field and I'm like, okay,
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: like I guess I'm gonna come help you right now.
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: But like we was, I didn't even know you was
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: about that. We were talking about like you know, poems
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: we right and stuff.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: You know right now you over here dropping knees.
• 48:21
  Speaker 9: Bro, Like I know him, I'm correct, Like I'm saying, like, hey,
• 48:28
  Speaker 9: look look like like like you can take you can
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: take losses, you can take l's, but you can't take
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: being punked.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And he was trying to punk you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: You yourself, you got.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: And then after the game you're gonna be like, well,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you know it's just like you know you love him
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: if he's on your team here on your team, like
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: so like why were you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Talking about it?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Like, by the way, Larry Bird did not have apologies
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: about hating Bill Langber. Ken McHale did not have apologies about.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Hey and Bill Lamber.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You're talking about enemies in this league. Dylan Brooks got
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: enemies in the league no one apologizes for and says, well,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: if he was on my team, I think I would
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: like him.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: Brot, Harry Birds or Dylan Brooks on the team. Though, Karen,
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: we don't have that. These are nice, deep, respectable you
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like I could, I would bring
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: these these gentlemen around my family. Okay, dress knocks, you
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: know what I mean?
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Like, come on now.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Here, Look, he got you got it. Here's what you need.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: You need to get some ballplayers that go to church
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: every single day because they need it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: That's what you need.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: You needayers they gotta go to church.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Every day because they need it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: That that's what you and if you don't have that,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's the trade deadline acquisition you need.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Gar I ain't you. I'm learning something about you right now.
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  Speaker 6: First of all, let's just get that out the out
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: and open you Are you care.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: About that life? All right? I'm about to read you
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: can from now you ca yeah?
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: Correct case he's talking about dropping knees, elbows, just everything.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: Like you come into second base if you want to,
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: you you get you coming out here with something.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're leaving with something. I feel it though. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: You like, I'm good.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just going I'm gonna let him go and have
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: that base.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: No, no, you get me out on the field, I'll
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: get fired off out here. I'm just leaving this.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Here with I got y'all boys and tricked me out. Yeah, jack.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Oh man.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: But I'm not one to start something. But if someone
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: comes at me, who.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I do not?
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I do not put up with it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I can attest.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I will say this though, I like of all the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: things that Naylor did, the least dangerous was obviously like
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the mitt and you know, but honestly, he had the
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: most potential to screw up the play because you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: could Dangler could at the ball.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I thought more of a stink should have been raised
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: about that if we're, you know, talking about all the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: things that he did, because that's one of the ones
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that like is a real interference baseball play. I didn't
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: think enough was made of that in the moment and afterward,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: because again it didn't technically Maage.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Tingler said he didn't even feel it, which I probably
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: wasn't true. He said he didn't even know what happened.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: So in credit to cold Keith who also said, I've
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: seen Josh Naylor do some questionable dirty baseball stuff. Colt Keith,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: it gave at least gave like a seventy five percent
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: honest answer, and all these other guys just said nothing.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: So hey, that's why you want to go with See,
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: that's why I got this. That's why I go with
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: the Kimbo slice. So I ain't gonna get started.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: I don't. They won't even started with me because they.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: Already like, nah, that brother right there, you don't look right,
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: see you look crazy already. They ain't gonna you know
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: what I mean this say, bro, Like.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: They ain't gonna all of that stuff.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: You ain't gotta worry about people doing the weird sliding
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: throwing mixed because they like, I don't know what he
• 52:32
  Speaker 6: capable of, you know. And I'm a nice guy. You know,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: I'm a nice wholesome guy.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: We're just a bunch of nice wholesome guys in this podcast.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: But but look, the bottom line is, like Naylor, talented guy,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: does his job perfectly, all the respect in the world
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: for what he does it. I definitely agree that the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Tigers got to have some sort of dude that's unafraid.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good way to put it, just like
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: unafraid to do.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Stuff, you know what I mean?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: And and and like every team could use one of
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: those guys. But if you don't have them, you don't
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: have to give them like flowers. You can just say
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you and hate them and that's okay. Yeah, and feeling
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that yeah exactly so, but what what what what has
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: to be feeling good is the fact this is back
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: to back series wins, this is five wins in a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: week and the Tigers and you throw them the school
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: bull stuff from today. It's the best feeling you have
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: had in quite some time, probably definitely since the month
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: of April, and I don't I don't have an exact
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: pinpoint day. But things are looking up as much as
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: they have been. So we'll see what happens this week. Missoe,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: another big week.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: This thing all big weeks from here on out.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: You got Minnesota, you got Cleveland, reinforcements may be coming.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Berlander's gonna do another rehab start. We got that news
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: today and things are gonna get only more crucial as
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: we move on.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So in a way, it's, uh, it's done if you're
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: looking at the schedule.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: But in a way it's like, damn, everything's right there,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: everything's right there.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Let's see what happens, you know what I mean. It's
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: a good feeling.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
• 54:12
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• 54:17
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• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Know what to do.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you, So for Codey Stapenhagen, Austin Jackson,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I'm Kieren Steckley.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Everybody, have a great day.