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  Speaker 1: So imagine you're standing on this hot asphalt on an
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  Speaker 1: 85 degree day in September.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. That California heat.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. You're in a Hollywood tow yard. It's surrounded by
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  Speaker 1: chain link fences. And there's just this overwhelming stench of
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  Speaker 1: exhaust everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Not exactly a glamorous scene.
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. And you're looking at this luxury vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: a Tesla, just sitting there baking in the Southern California sun.
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  Speaker 2: And that heat changes things, especially when we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: a forensic scene.
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  Speaker 1: It really does. So when the Los Angeles Police Department
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  Speaker 1: investigators finally open the front trunk, no, the frunk of
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  Speaker 1: that impounded Tesla, they don't just find a gruesome crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They find this frantic, visceral panic of a multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 1: pop star. And it's literally realized in the form of
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  Speaker 1: air fresheners.
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  Speaker 2: Which is just, I mean, it's almost absurd to think about.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. 11 million. pine-scented air fresheners just scattered
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  Speaker 1: everywhere inside the car.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven. I mean, that's not just trying to make your
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  Speaker 2: car smell nice. That's a desperate attempt to cover something up.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Those little cardboard trees were a completely futile, just
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  Speaker 1: desperate attempt to mask the reality of a rotting secret.
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  Speaker 2: Right, because you simply can't mask that kind of reality
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  Speaker 2: with pine scent.
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  Speaker 1: No, you really can't. And it's this jarring, horrifying juxtaposition.
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  Speaker 1: Because we usually associate young Hollywood with You know, flashing cameras,
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  Speaker 1: exclusive parties.
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  Speaker 2: You have that highly curated illusion of just infinite success.
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  Speaker 1: Right. But when you force that glittering world to collide
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  Speaker 1: with the hyper-industrial reality of a forensic investigation, you get
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  Speaker 1: a story that basically forces you to reevaluate every single
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  Speaker 1: assumption you hold about the art you consume and the
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  Speaker 1: artists who create it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. The collision between a manufactured public image and
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  Speaker 2: the unforgiving microscopic reality of forensic science I mean, it's total.
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  Speaker 1: It leaves nothing hiding.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. We are looking at a scenario where a digital
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  Speaker 2: empire violently intersects with physical evidence, and the resulting debris
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  Speaker 2: field is what the legal system is currently trying to
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  Speaker 2: piece together.
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  Speaker 1: Which is exactly the mission of this deep dive today.
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  Speaker 1: We are unpacking the truly staggering preliminary hearing decals of
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  Speaker 1: a case where fame, unthinkable violence, and an inescapable digital
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  Speaker 1: paper trail have collided.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Right. In a Los Angeles courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. We're drawing heavily on recent, incredibly detailed reporting from
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  Speaker 1: ABC News, specifically covering the days-long preliminary hearing that just
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up.
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  Speaker 2: And the individual standing at the absolute center of all
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  Speaker 2: this is a platinum-selling artist who goes by the stage
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  Speaker 2: name D4VD.
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  Speaker 1: Right, his legal name is David Anthony Burke. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a music fan, you likely know his massive breakout hit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a song ironically and chillingly titled Romantic Homicide.
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  Speaker 1: I know, the title alone is just, it's eerie now.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into the timeline, we have to
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  Speaker 1: establish the legal framework.
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  Speaker 2: That is essential, yes. We have to be very clear here.
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  Speaker 2: David Burke has pleaded not guilty to all charges.
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  Speaker 1: All of them, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. And those charges include first-degree murder, the sexual abuse
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  Speaker 2: of a child, and the unlawful mutilation of human remains.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so incredibly severe charges.
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  Speaker 2: Extremely. His defense team vehemently denies the allegations. He is
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  Speaker 2: currently being held without bail. But, and this is key
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  Speaker 2: for you listening, our purpose here is not to issue
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  Speaker 2: a verdict. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We're not a jury.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. We are examining the evidence the prosecution presented in
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  Speaker 2: court to establish probable cause. A preliminary hearing is just
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  Speaker 2: a procedural checkpoint.
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  Speaker 1: OK, so it's like a mini trial to see if
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  Speaker 1: there's even enough to go forward.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. The judge simply decides if there is enough evidence
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  Speaker 2: to warrant a full trial. So everything we discuss today
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  Speaker 2: is the prosecution's narrative built from the evidence they chose
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  Speaker 2: to reveal to meet that specific legal threshold.
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  Speaker 1: Got it. OK, so. To really wrap our minds around
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  Speaker 1: the sheer gravity of the prosecution's timeline, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to start by looking at the stakes. Like, why
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  Speaker 1: would a crime of this magnitude even theoretically occur?
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  Speaker 2: Right. What's the motive?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We have to look at the accused's life right
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  Speaker 1: up until the moment the victim, 14-year-old Celeste Rives Hernandez, vanished.
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  Speaker 2: Because the prosecution didn't just call police officers to the
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  Speaker 2: stand during this hearing, did they?
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  Speaker 1: No, they didn't. They actually brought in David Burke's financial manager.
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  Speaker 1: And a finance employee from Interscope Records.
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  Speaker 2: His former label.
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  Speaker 1: Right. They testified about the sheer volume of wealth he
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  Speaker 1: was generating. And, I mean, get this. Between 2023 and 2025,
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  Speaker 1: David Burke brought in approximately $ 11 million. $ 11 million in
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  Speaker 1: two years. I mean, my jaw dropped reading that.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, the introduction of those financial records, that's
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  Speaker 2: a calculated move by the prosecution because it establishes the
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  Speaker 2: foundational bedrock of the alleged motive. $ 11 million in two
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  Speaker 2: years fundamentally changes the psychological profile of an 18-year-old kid.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I can't even imagine having that kind
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  Speaker 1: of money at 18. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It means he's no longer just a musician. He is
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  Speaker 2: the chief executive officer of a multinational corporate entity. We
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  Speaker 2: are talking about an entire ecosystem here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like managers, agents, that sort of thing. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Tour promoters, publicists, road crews, their entire livelihoods depend completely
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  Speaker 2: on the continued marketability of the D4VD brand.
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  Speaker 1: Which means he wasn't just losing pocket change if things
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  Speaker 1: went wrong. He was facing the collapse of an entire
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  Speaker 1: corporate structure. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And we have to consider how that money works in
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  Speaker 2: the music industry.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because it's not like he just has $ 11 million
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  Speaker 1: in a checking account.
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  Speaker 2: Right. An $ 11 million figure often comes from massive publishing
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  Speaker 2: advances and projected merchandise sales. That money is essentially a
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  Speaker 2: loan against future earnings.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. So he owes them that success.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. If a scandal hits and a massive world tour, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, was just about to go on sale,
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  Speaker 2: gets canceled, the label wants their money back. The pressure
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  Speaker 2: cooker that creates must be completely unimaginable.
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  Speaker 1: And that pressure cooker brings us directly to the alleged
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  Speaker 1: threat that ignited this entire timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the catalyst.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The prosecution alleges that the relationship between David Burke
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  Speaker 1: and Celeste began in 2023. At that time, according to
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  Speaker 1: the charges, he was an 18-year-old legal adult and she
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  Speaker 1: was a 13-year-old child.
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  Speaker 2: The power imbalance in that dynamic is, I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: almost beyond comprehension.
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  Speaker 1: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: You have this rapidly rising celebrity with immense cultural and
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  Speaker 2: financial resources holding sway over a young teenager. But according
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  Speaker 2: to the prosecution, that dynamic shifted.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because Celeste was allegedly threatening to expose this illegal relationship.
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  Speaker 1: She's threatening to basically burn down that $ 11 million empire
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  Speaker 1: if he wouldn't agree to be exclusive to her. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's important to pause here because I
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  Speaker 2: can hear a listener thinking through this and hitting a
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  Speaker 2: wall of logic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hit that wall too. We hear about career-ending
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  Speaker 1: scandals all the time. An artist gets canceled, they lose endorsements,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they disappear from the public eye for a few years.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, PR crises happen every day.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. But the leap from being a platinum-selling pop star
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  Speaker 1: to allegedly committing a barbaric, brutal murder over an exposure threat,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like the prosecution is asking a jury
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  Speaker 1: to believe you went from a typical celebrity to a
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  Speaker 1: calculated monster in a split second.
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  Speaker 2: It is a massive psychological leap. But the prosecution grounds
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  Speaker 2: it in the mechanics of self-preservation. Exposing a relationship with
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  Speaker 2: a 13-year-old doesn't just result in getting canceled on social media. Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just a bad PR day.
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  Speaker 2: No, not in the state of California. It involves severe
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  Speaker 2: mandatory minimum felony charges. It means registering as a sex offender.
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  Speaker 2: It means the absolute permanent destruction of freedom and finance.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Yeah, when you lay it out like that,
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  Speaker 1: the stakes are literal life and death for his career
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  Speaker 1: and his freedom.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. The prosecution's theory is that David Burke didn't just
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  Speaker 2: snap in some crime of passion. They are arguing that
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  Speaker 2: he made a cold, calculated, albeit deeply flawed decision.
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  Speaker 1: To weigh his life against hers.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. To weigh the value of his golden, curated life
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  Speaker 2: against the life of a young girl who held the
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  Speaker 2: match that could burn it all down.
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  Speaker 1: It is just the ultimate toxic extension of protecting the
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  Speaker 1: brand at all costs. And because the prosecution claims this
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  Speaker 1: was all about protecting that burgeoning empire... Their timeline of
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  Speaker 1: the actual night Celeste disappeared is entirely framed around this
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  Speaker 1: idea of a calculated trap.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And this is where the digital evidence comes in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The digital breadcrumb trail left on the night of
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  Speaker 1: April 23, 2025. That's where the evidence transitions from this
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  Speaker 1: abstract motive into a really chilling, concrete timeline.
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  Speaker 2: And that digital footprint is where modern forensic investigations are
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  Speaker 2: won or lost. The prosecution asserts that April 23 was
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  Speaker 2: the last time Celeste was seen alive.
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  Speaker 1: And they have a map of that, right?
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  Speaker 2: They have constructed a highly detailed digital map of her
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  Speaker 2: final movements. The LAPD detective testified that David Burke allegedly
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  Speaker 2: ordered an Uber himself.
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  Speaker 1: He ordered it from his own phone?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, to bring the 14-year-old directly to his home in
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  Speaker 2: the Hollywood Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so while she is in that Uber, traveling toward
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  Speaker 1: his residence, there is a text exchange that the detective
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  Speaker 1: presented in court.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a very mundane exchange.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It's so normal. But it takes on this
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  Speaker 1: horrifying weight when you know how the night ends. She
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  Speaker 1: sends a text from the car saying, almost there, open
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  Speaker 1: the door if you are home. And he replies with
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  Speaker 1: a very casual, got it.
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  Speaker 2: Those three words, got you, are the final documented communication
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  Speaker 2: before her digital footprint completely and permanently vanishes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I always think of our modern digital footprint
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  Speaker 1: like walking through wet cement.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good analogy.
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  Speaker 1: Because like decades ago, A crime like this might rely
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  Speaker 1: entirely on a neighbor just happening to look out their
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  Speaker 1: window and seeing a car pull up, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all eyewitness testimony back then.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But today, every single physical movement you make is shadowed
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  Speaker 1: by a digital receipt. You order an Uber, you're generating
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  Speaker 1: a GPS log, a financial transaction, a driver's record, and
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  Speaker 1: a timecode. scan.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You send a text. It lives in the iCloud.
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  Speaker 2: It routes through servers. It pings off local cell towers.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. You just cannot invite someone to your home via
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  Speaker 1: a smartphone app without creating an inescapable glowing neon sign
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  Speaker 1: pointing directly to your front door.
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  Speaker 2: The wet cement analogy is perfectly apt because it highlights
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  Speaker 2: the permanence of the data. Once you step in it,
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  Speaker 2: the shape is there. The prosecution is leveraging every single
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  Speaker 2: footprint left in that cement to establish location and intent.
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  Speaker 1: But it gets weirder, right? Because after she arrives, there's
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  Speaker 1: more digital activity.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. The most compelling and arguably the most sinister part
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  Speaker 2: of this digital trail is what happened in the days
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  Speaker 2: following April 23. The detective testified that Celeste's phone went
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  Speaker 2: completely silent. She never sent another message to anyone.
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  Speaker 1: But David Burke's phone did not go silent.
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  Speaker 2: No, it did not.
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  Speaker 1: He kept texting her. He was sending messages asking where
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  Speaker 1: she was, checking in, feigning worry. Like, his final message
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  Speaker 1: to her was sent on April 26th.
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  Speaker 2: Three full days later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, three full days after she allegedly arrived at his
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  Speaker 1: home and was never seen again.
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  Speaker 2: In investigative terms, this behavior is a classic example of staging.
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  Speaker 1: Staging. Like setting up a scene in a play.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's an attempt to manipulate the narrative after the fact.
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  Speaker 2: The psychological profile here is fascinating. Why text a phone
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  Speaker 2: you know won't answer?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Because if you know she's dead, you know she's
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  Speaker 1: not going to reply.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. You do it because you are operating under the
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  Speaker 2: assumption that eventually law enforcement is going to pull those
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  Speaker 2: phone records. You are attempting to create a retroactive digital alibi.
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  Speaker 1: You want the cops to see that and think you're
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  Speaker 1: a good guy.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You want the police to read those texts and
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  Speaker 2: conclude that you were a concerned friend, completely ignorant of
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  Speaker 2: her whereabouts.
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  Speaker 1: But that digital paper trail, those frantic texts sent to
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  Speaker 1: a phone he allegedly knew wouldn't answer it, forces a
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  Speaker 1: pivotal question. Like, if he realized his digital alibi might
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  Speaker 1: be scrutinized, how did investigators dismantle it? Because you don't
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  Speaker 1: just read the texts in a vacuum, do you?
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  Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. And this is where the staging falls apart.
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  Speaker 2: Investigators utilize cell tower triangulation.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how does that work?
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  Speaker 2: Well, a mobile phone is constantly pinging the nearest two
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  Speaker 2: or three cell towers just to maintain a signal, right?
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  Speaker 1: Even if you're not making a call.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Just sitting in your pocket, it's pinging. So by
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  Speaker 2: analyzing the time delays between those pings, analysts can create
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  Speaker 2: a geographic polygon that pinpoints the phone's location with startling accuracy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: So if Burke is texting her asking, where are you?
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  Speaker 2: But the tower data shows both of their phones are
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  Speaker 2: pinging off the exact same tower servicing his Hollywood Hills address.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the staging completely falls apart. The digital alibi actually
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  Speaker 2: becomes digital evidence of a cover-up.
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  Speaker 1: That is wow. And when a digital cover-up fails, we
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  Speaker 1: have to look at how he attempted to physically erase
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  Speaker 1: what happened next.
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  Speaker 2: Right, moving from the phone to the physical space?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the physical cover-up, as presented by the prosecutors...
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  Speaker 1: reveals a level of premeditation that is simultaneously gruesome, shocking,
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  Speaker 1: and just bizarrely clumsy.
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  Speaker 2: The preliminary hearing testimony became intensely graphic when it moved
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  Speaker 2: to the physical evidence recovered from the Hollywood Hills home.
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  Speaker 1: It really did.
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  Speaker 2: The prosecution introduced the concept of an alias, combined with
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  Speaker 2: a highly suspicious manifest of purchased items.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so days after Celeste was last seen alive, a
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  Speaker 1: series of items were ordered and delivered to David Burke's home.
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  Speaker 1: But they weren't ordered under his name.
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  Speaker 2: No, they used a fake name.
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  Speaker 1: Right. They were ordered under the alias Travion Davis. And
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  Speaker 1: the items included chainsaws, a mop system, cadaver bags and
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  Speaker 1: a blue inflatable pool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is the literal logistical shopping list for
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  Speaker 2: the dismemberment and disposal of human remains.
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  Speaker 1: It's horrifying.
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  Speaker 2: It is. And the creation of the alias Travion Davis
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  Speaker 2: is a clear indicator of consciousness of guilt. From a
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  Speaker 2: legal standpoint, you do not use a fake name to
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  Speaker 2: order household cleaning supplies unless you are actively trying to
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  Speaker 2: distance yourself from the purchase and its intended use.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but this is where the logic completely fractures for me.
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  Speaker 1: We established that he's running an $ 11 million enterprise, right?
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  Speaker 1: He has a team. He has security. He has pretty
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  Speaker 1: much limitless resources. Right. So if you have all of that,
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  Speaker 1: why on earth would you order a murder cleanup kit
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  Speaker 1: and have it delivered directly to your own front porch?
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  Speaker 2: It seems ridiculous, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: It does. Like even under the name Travion Davis, the
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  Speaker 1: delivery driver is still dropping a box of chainsaws at
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  Speaker 1: the very real, very physical address of the guy who
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  Speaker 1: sings Romantic Homicide. It feels recklessly arrogant.
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  Speaker 2: It highlights this vast gulf between the psychology of an
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  Speaker 2: amateur criminal operating in a state of panic and the
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  Speaker 2: unforgiving reality of modern logistics. When someone is surrounded by
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  Speaker 2: wealth and enablers... They can develop a profound arrogance, this
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  Speaker 2: belief that they are insulated from consequence. The alias shows
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  Speaker 2: the intent to hide, but delivering it to the crime
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  Speaker 2: scene shows an incredibly naive misunderstanding of tracking logistics.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, totally. You can use a fake name, but the
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  Speaker 1: credit card used leaves a financial footprint. The IP address
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  Speaker 1: used to place the order leaves a digital footprint.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: The delivery company has GPS logs of exactly where that
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  Speaker 1: package was scanned and dropped off.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It is the illusion of a master plan, but
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  Speaker 2: it's executed with the sloppy reality of adrenaline and terror.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And when the LAPD eventually served a search warrant at
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  Speaker 2: that Hollywood Hills residence in September, the garage essentially became
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  Speaker 2: ground zero for the Forensic Science Division.
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  Speaker 1: And what they found there is just it's grim. It is.
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  Speaker 2: The testimony from the LAPD's forensic criminalist paints a picture
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  Speaker 2: of what happens when amateur cleaning attempts meet professional forensics.
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  Speaker 1: Because they found the blue inflatable pool that had been
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  Speaker 1: ordered under the alias. But it was damaged.
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  Speaker 2: Very damaged.
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  Speaker 1: The criminalist testified that it had cuts from a blade
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  Speaker 1: all over it and there were physical pieces of the
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  Speaker 1: blue plastic missing entirely.
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  Speaker 2: And the implication of that is unavoidable. The prosecution is
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  Speaker 2: establishing that the pool was utilized as a containment area
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  Speaker 2: for biological material and it was damaged by sharp implements
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  Speaker 2: during that process.
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  Speaker 1: And right alongside that damaged pool, they found a rubber
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  Speaker 1: mat on the garage floor with multiple cuts and, crucially,
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  Speaker 1: red marks.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and they don't just assume what those marks are. No.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: The forensic team didn't just guess. They tested them, and
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: they came back positive for blood. Furthermore, a DNA analyst
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: testified that the genetic profile extracted from that blood on
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the rubber mat was a match for Celeste Rivas Hernandez.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Which means despite the mop systems, despite whatever cleaning chemicals
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: were purchased, they couldn't erase the microscopic biological reality that
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: she bled in that garage.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: And it's so hard to clean up blood, isn't it?
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, blood is incredibly persistent. When you're dealing with a
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: porous or textured environment like a rubber mat or unsealed concrete,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: cleaning agents might remove the visible staining, right?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: So it looks clean to the naked eye.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Exactly. But the biological material gets trapped in the microscopic crevices.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Forensics teams use chemical reagents like luminol to detect the
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: iron in hemoglobin, even if it has been bleached. You
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: simply cannot mop away DNA from a porous surface.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Wow. And then there's the matter of the chainsaws. The
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: order under Travion Davis included multiple chainsaws. The detective testified
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: that two chainsaws were recovered from the garage. And importantly,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: those two specific chainsaws Tested negative for blood.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Right. But a third chainsaw from the order was completely missing.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Completely gone.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And the prosecution uses this absence as a very compelling
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: narrative tool. If two chainsaws were clean and left behind,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: why did the third one need to vanish so completely? Right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: What makes that one different?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: The logical inference they want the judge to make is
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: that the missing tool was the one actually utilized. It
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: was likely too contaminated with biological material to ever successfully clean,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: so it had to be disposed of entirely.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: It's chilling. But the horrors allegedly committed in that garage
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: inevitably led to a massive, grim logistical problem. You cannot
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: keep a body in a residential garage forever.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Especially as decomposition sets in.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Right. And that grim logistical hurdle brings us back to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the image we started with, the September discovery at the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Hollywood tow yard.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: We're moving forward in the timeline now, from April to
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: September 2025.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: So months have passed. Yes.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: For months, Celeste's whereabouts were a complete mystery. But the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: discovery inside the impounded Tesla shifts the entire case from
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a missing persons investigation to a homicide with physical remains.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And I want you to put yourself in the shoes
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of that LAPD criminologist called out to the tow yard.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't even imagine.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You approach a vehicle that has been baking in the
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: September heat. Before you even open a door, the smell
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of human decomposition is unmistakable. But what is truly haunting
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: is what they saw inside the cabin. At least 11
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: air fresheners scattered throughout the vehicle.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You know, those 11 air fresheners, they speak volumes about
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the rapidly deteriorating mental state of whoever put them there.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: How so?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Well, the smell of decomposition, especially in a sealed environment
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: like a car trunk where heat multiplies the bacterial breakdown
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: of tissue it's impossible to contain. Those air fresheners are
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the physical manifestation of someone recognizing they have entirely lost control.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: They're panicking.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Completely. Completely. They are a frantic, failing attempt to keep
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the curated illusion alive while the rotting reality literally sits
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: in the front trunk of the car.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And what was in the front trunk? Yeah. The front
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of the Tesla, which is a detail that just makes
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it feel so uniquely modern and dystopian, were two cadaver bags. Yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: The exact same kind ordered under the alias Travion Davis.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Inside those bags were the badly decomposed, dismembered remains of
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: 14-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez. But how the forensics unit definitively
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: linked those remains in the tow yard back to the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: garage in the Hollywood Hills, that is a master class
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in trace evidence analysis.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It really is. The discovery of the body is the
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: tragic anchor of the case, but the microscopic evidence is
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the chain that binds the suspect to the crime. Yeah.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: The LAPD's Trace analysis unit found tiny microscopic blue plastic
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: fragments embedded deep in Celeste's right knee.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So they took those microscopic fragments, put them under analysis
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and compared them to the damaged blue inflatable pool they
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: had recovered from the garage. And they achieved what forensic
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: scientists call a physical fit.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: And a physical fit in trace evidence is, I mean,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it's one of the most powerful things a prosecutor can present.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Like a jigsaw puzzle.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Kind of, but think of it less like a jigsaw
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: puzzle and more like a shattered glass slipper. where the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: micro fractures perfectly uniquely align, or it's like a forensic
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: fingerprint left by a blade. The edges of the tiny
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: fragments found in the knee perfectly locked into the missing
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: jagged spaces of the cut plastic from the pool in
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the garage.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It is irrefutable physical proof that her body was in
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: contact with that specific pool at the exact moment it
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: was being subjected to extreme force and damage.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It is incredible how microscopic trace evidence speaks so much
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: louder and more definitively than any witness ever could.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like, you can try to delete text messages, you can
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: use fake names, you could buy 11 air fresheners, but
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you cannot control a millimeter of shattered plastic.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Right. It relies on Locard's exchange principle, which is a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: foundational concept in forensic science. It dictates that every contact
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: leaves a trace.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Every contact leaves a trace.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. The perpetrator brings something to the scene and takes
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: something away from it. In this horrific instance... The scene,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the plastic pool, left a piece of itself embedded within
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the victim.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: But the forensic analysis didn't stop at the plastic. We
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: have to address what is arguably the most psychologically disturbing
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: evidence presented at the hearing. The tattoos and the amputations.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is where it gets incredibly dark.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Because this goes far beyond covering up a crime. This
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: speaks to something deeply twisted about the power dynamic and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the relationship itself. Following his arrest, Detectives documented David Burke's tattoos.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: He has a tattoo that says shh on his right
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: index finger, like the gesture for silencing someone. Right. He
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: also has a Celeste tattoo on his left ring finger.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: And the prosecution revealed that Celeste had matching tattoos. She
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: had the identical tattoo on her right index finger, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: she had a tattoo of his name, David, on her
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: left ring finger.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: On a 14-year-old. Yes.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: The prosecution even showed a photo of her in court
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: bearing this exact tattoo. A matching tattoo on a 13-
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: or 14-year-old girl linking her to an 18-year-old man, it
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: is a profound psychological marker of ownership and control.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: But the medical examiner's testimony regarding those tattoos elevates the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: horror to an entirely different level. The deputy medical examiner
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: testified that when Celeste's remains were recovered from the body bags,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: certain parts were missing. Specifically, the ring and pinky fingers
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on her left hand had been amputated. Her remains were
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: literally missing the fingers that bore the tattoo of his name.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: If we analyze this from a forensic psychology perspective, it
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: transcends standard dismemberment for the purpose of disposal.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: What does it mean, then?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: It speaks to the concept of depersonalization. It was a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: literal surgical attempt to erase his name from her body.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: It is as if, by cutting away the flesh that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: bore his identity, the perpetrator believed they could sever the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: connection between them, both physically and legally.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Like erasing evidence from her actual person?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It is the ultimate act of objectification transforming a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: human being into redaction material.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It is just heartbreaking. And the timeline of her death
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: makes it even more tragic. The deputy medical examiner noted
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that her body was discovered a day after what would
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: have been her 15th birthday.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. But she had been dead for at least weeks,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: possibly since that night in April. Imagine spending your 15th
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: birthday in a body bag in the trunk of an
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: impounded car. It grounds all the forensic science and legal
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: maneuvering in the stark reality of a lost child.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It really does.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And that legal maneuvering is where this case is currently focused.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Because this preliminary hearing wasn't just a presentation. It was
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: an adversarial proceeding.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Right. There's a defense team fighting back.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly. With this absolute mountain of forensic, digital, and financial
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: evidence now presented to the judge, both sides are aggressively
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: positioning themselves for the impending full-blown trial.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So the judge ruled there was sufficient probable cause to
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: move forward, which is why Los Angeles County District Attorney
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Nathan Hockman addressed the media outside the courthouse. His words
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: were forceful.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Very forceful.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: He called the evidence overwhelming, horrific, and barbaric. But he
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: also made a very strategic point. He explicitly stated that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: what the public heard during this preliminary hearing was just
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a small fraction of the evidence they possess. Yeah, that
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: small fraction comment, that is a calculated warning shot to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: the defense.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: You think they have a lot more?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. We know from the testimony that they have
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: extensive cell phone mapping. The detective mentioned D4VD' s phone and
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the Tesla traveling to a desolate road in Santa Barbara
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: County three times, once on the night of April 23
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: and twice in May.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Wait, Santa Barbara? Yes.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We also know her passport was found on the side
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of a rural road in Santa Barbara. The prosecution likely
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: has GPS data mapping his exact movements down to the foot,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: possibly corroborated by video surveillance from gas stations or toll
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: booths along that route.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Right, because of all the digital footprints we talked about.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They also mention recovering explicit photographs from his iCloud.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: The DA is signaling that the full trial will introduce
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: layers of corroboration we haven't even seen yet.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: The DA also mentioned they have not yet decided whether
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: they will seek the death penalty, which tells you how
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: seriously they are treating the premeditation and the special circumstances
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of the mutilation.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It's the highest possible stakes. It is.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: But we have to look closely at the defense's position
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: because their job is monumental. D4VD' s defense team attorneys Burke, Midnarski,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and Peter released a highly specific statement.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, I read this. It's fascinating.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: It says, the actual evidence in this case will show
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: that David Burke did not murder Celeste Rivas Hernandez and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: he was not the cause of her death.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: How do you, as a defense attorney, stand in front
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: of a jury and argue he didn't cause her death
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: when her dismembered body was found inside his personal car
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: alongside tools that were ordered to his exact address.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: You have to look very closely at the exact phrasing
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: they utilized.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: They did not say he doesn't know how the body
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: got in his car. They didn't claim he never saw
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: her that night.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, true.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: They specifically surgically stated he did not murder her and
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: was not the cause of her death. This suggests they
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: might be attempting a highly complex, incredibly high-risk legal maneuver.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Which is?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Uncoupling the cover up from the cause of death.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Uncoupling the cover up from the murder. How exactly does
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: that work in a courtroom?
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: So in criminal law, the burden of proof for first
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: degree murder requires the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: doubt that the defendant committed an act that directly caused
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the victim's death with malice of forethought, meaning the specific
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: intent to kill.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Mutilation of human remains, concealing a body and covering up
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a crime. while incredibly horrific felonies that carry severe prison
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: time are legally distinct charges for murder.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: OK, wait. So are you saying the defense might try
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to argue that she died of some other cause while
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: she was at his house?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Like perhaps an accidental drug overdose or a sudden medical emergency.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And he, being an 18-year-old kid terrified of losing an
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: $ 11 million empire, panicked, didn't call 911, and made the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: horrific decision to dispose of the body instead.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It is entirely possible, and frankly, it might be the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: only viable strategy left when faced with this much physical evidence.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: If the defense can introduce reasonable doubt about how she
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: actually died, which is aided by the fact that the
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: medical examiner noted the body was badly decomposed, making a definitive,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: pristine autopsy and cause of death much harder to establish.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Right, because of the time that passed. Yes.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: They might argue that the panic and the cover-up were
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the actions of a terrified youth, not a cold-blooded murderer.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They could stand before the jury and say, yes, he
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: used the alias. Yes, he bought the chainsaws. Yes, he
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: put the body in the Tesla. It was monstrous, but
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: it wasn't murder. She was already dead.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: That is a staggering legal strategy. If you are facing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the death penalty or life without parole for first-degree murder,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: admitting to the desecration of a corpse to avoid the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: murder conviction might literally be the only card you can play.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: It requires the jury to believe he is a monster,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: but a legally distinct type of monster.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It is a Herculean task for any defense team. Because
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to sell that narrative of a panicked accident, they still
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: have to explain away the deeply calculated digital footprint.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: They have to explain why a panicked kid would have
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the presence of mind to text a dead girl's phone
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: for three days to build an alibi. They have to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: explain the surgical precision of amputating specific fingers to remove
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a tattoo.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: A panic response is inherently chaotic. But the actions taken here,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the staging, the alias, the targeted amputations, suggests a level
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: of cold calculation that severely undercuts the panicked accident defense.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: It does. It's going to be a fascinating, though incredibly grim,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: legal battle.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a brutal, agonizing trial. And amidst
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: all this intense legal strategy and microscopic forensic science, we
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: cannot lose sight of the human element at the absolute
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: center of this tragedy.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: We really can't.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: The reporting notes that Celeste's family is the reason she
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: was finally identified. Her father was the one who called
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the LAPD after seeing local news coverage of an unidentified
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: body found in D4VD' s impounded Tesla.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's just, I know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: He had a terrible gut feeling, and he provided the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: dental records that ultimately confirmed the worst nightmare any parent
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: can face.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: The agony of that identification process is unimaginable. Their attorney
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: has stated publicly that the family is relieved the case
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: has passed the preliminary hearing and is moving forward to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: a full trial. They want accountability, and they want the
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: full story to be told on the record in a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: court of law.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: We started this deep dive looking at the glittering, curated
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: heights of a platinum music career. A young artist swimming
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: in millions of dollars, preparing for a global tour beloved
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: by millions of fans. And we follow the forensic and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: digital trail down, step by step, into a tragic timeline
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: involving a 14-year-old girl, digital traps, fake aliases, chainsaws in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a Hollywood garage, and finally a gruesome, heartbreaking discovery in
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the sweltering heat of a Los Angeles tow yard.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It is a narrative that forces us to confront the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: darkest aspects of power dynamics. It is a stark reminder
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of the extreme vulnerability of youth when they are drawn
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: into the orbit of immense celebrity influence and wealth.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it wasn't just age.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: No, the power imbalance wasn't merely age. It was limitless resources.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: It was immense cultural capital. It was the catastrophic belief
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that one could buy their way out of a murder
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: with an alias in a plastic pool.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I want you to consider one final thought as you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: go about your day. Think about the illusion of the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: modern celebrity. Think about the song that made David Burke famous,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Romantic Homicide. For months, while Celeste was missing, while her
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: body was sitting in the trunk of a car baking
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in a tow yard, millions of people were streaming that song. Wow.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: You might have even heard it on the radio. People
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: are adding it to playlists, singing along to it in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: their cars, completely blissfully unaware that the artist they were
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: listening to was allegedly orchestrating a real-life horror story behind
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the gates of his Hollywood Hills home. It really forces
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: you to ask, how much do we ever truly know
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: about the people whose art we consume? And when the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: digital facade drops, what kind of monsters might be hiding
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: in plain sight?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It is a deeply unsettling question, and it is the
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: shadow that will hover over every single day of the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: upcoming trial.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: We will be watching closely as this case heads to court.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. Take
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: care of yourselves, and we will catch you next time.