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NBA DFS Process | DraftKings & FanDuel Picks, Plays & Slate Breakdown | Wednesday, 02/11/26 · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's gone clear, were lifting?
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? Everybody? Welcome back to a big
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday thirteen game slate edition of the NBA Show. Got
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  Speaker 2: my guy here with me every Wednesday, Matt, big week
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  Speaker 2: for you, filling in a couple of times, but I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate all the work you've done this week. We'll say
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  Speaker 2: what's up to everybody chat before bringing you in. We
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  Speaker 2: got a little neck in here, mister Mike's Daddy, Newan's
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  Speaker 2: Marcus d Luis, Ricky Marquis. Matt, how's your week been going.
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  Speaker 2: How you liking your new lik Cleveland Cavaliers with James Harden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, my week's been going pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: We got this massive slate tonight with that Millie Maker,
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  Speaker 3: so a lot to talk about there.
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  Speaker 1: The Calves. I'm excited man, Like I love Garland, but Harden.
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  Speaker 3: Is just a step up and then upgrade this season
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  Speaker 3: and seems like they have already started to mesh well.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, excited about you.
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  Speaker 3: Know what the Calves can do in the water down
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  Speaker 3: east and you know, potentially make a run at this
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  Speaker 3: and as far as shows go, yeah, this is a
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  Speaker 3: first of back to back shows for us, so I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 1: About that. Tomorrow should be much lighter and easier.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight we got thirteen games, which, man, I can't remember
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  Speaker 3: the last time we had a slate this big on draftings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know if we've had had any
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  Speaker 2: slates this big this season. Maybe maybe one or two,
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  Speaker 2: but they usually try to line up with these bigger
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  Speaker 2: million maker eight eighty eights type of slates with tonight, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: definitely going to be a night where you need to
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  Speaker 2: be by the computer. You kind of alluded to that
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  Speaker 2: in the slate plan. I got to read that before
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  Speaker 2: jumping on. Great work as always, but yeah, definitely a
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  Speaker 2: different dynamic, and you kind of talked briefly pre show this.
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  Speaker 2: The shows can run a little bit longer at times,
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  Speaker 2: but on say like this, you don't really need to
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  Speaker 2: spend a ton of time talking about every single micro matchup,
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  Speaker 2: so we can there will be some games that we
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  Speaker 2: can cross off or just say like a max one
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  Speaker 2: type of situation. But yeah, how is how does the
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  Speaker 2: overall strategy I guess for you change honestly like this
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  Speaker 2: just focusing in on the value and then kind of
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  Speaker 2: building around that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, the tough thing about tonight isn't even how
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  Speaker 3: many games there are, and how many questionable guys there are,
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  Speaker 3: and how many guys that just could show up on
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  Speaker 3: the injury report.
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  Speaker 1: So it's definitely a slate where you know, in anyone
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  Speaker 1: line up.
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  Speaker 3: You're certainly not going to be able to play everyone
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  Speaker 3: you want. There's more good plays than there are spots.
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  Speaker 3: It's all about roster construction tonight. As it looks for
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  Speaker 3: me right now, it looks like there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: like good value plays, not that many like three K
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  Speaker 3: value plays, So.
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  Speaker 1: I think roster construction is pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of good like tournament pivots
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  Speaker 3: off the guys getting ownership, and I'm excited to break
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  Speaker 3: it down with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I definitely agree with you there. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit different situation. We've seen teams really kind of
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  Speaker 2: turn up the tanking pretty early on, so you do
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  Speaker 2: have the salaries kind of in line with where they
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  Speaker 2: should be for their types of roles. But I will
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  Speaker 2: definitely break it down as we get into the slate.
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  Speaker 2: See a couple more people popped in here. It's up
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  Speaker 2: Bob Kipe, Nikela, hope they got that right. And then
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  Speaker 2: Nate de and William. How's it going, guys, I'll jump
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  Speaker 2: into the first game here on sabersim. We got the
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  Speaker 2: Wizards heading into Cleveland to face on your Cleveland Cavaliers.
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  Speaker 2: First game for the James Harden era in Cleveland at home.
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  Speaker 2: This will be their first home game, I believe since
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  Speaker 2: they made the acquisition to get him Q tags. In
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  Speaker 2: this one, we did get Tristan Vuksovitch got ruled out
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  Speaker 2: and then Alex sard To get downgraded to questionable, so
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  Speaker 2: that could open up a little bit. But all in all,
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  Speaker 2: the Wizards are kind of playing things pretty spread out
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  Speaker 2: in minutes wise right now, so it makes it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit tougher to get to them. But I'll let
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  Speaker 2: you break this down. This is a your Cleveland Cavaliers,
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  Speaker 2: so talk to me about this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So first off with the Wizard side, like you
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  Speaker 3: feel like when I saw the Star news, and then
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  Speaker 3: obviously Vuksovich is out that someone would would look good,
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  Speaker 3: but like Anthony Gill is the guy that could eat
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  Speaker 3: up a lot of those minutes. I'm good on Anthony Gill.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he would have to play out a lot
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  Speaker 3: of minutes for me to want to get to him.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Washington is one of those teams that I'm not overly
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  Speaker 3: interested in getting to. Cleveland's a team that's in a
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  Speaker 3: really good spot. The issue is can Washington keep this
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  Speaker 3: game close. As far as as the Calves go for
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  Speaker 3: DFS purposes, Hardin and Mitchell are interesting. We've seen them
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  Speaker 3: both be really good in the first two games together.
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  Speaker 3: Mitchell has like fifty five plus in each game. Harden
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  Speaker 3: put up I think fifty two draftings point drafting points
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  Speaker 3: last time out against Denver. I think that in a
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  Speaker 3: spot like this, either or both of them are likely
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  Speaker 3: to get there. I'm probably not going to choose between them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm only playing one lineup in that Nolly Maker, so
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  Speaker 3: full disclosure there. I doubt I get to either of
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  Speaker 3: Mitchell or Harden just because of their price tags and
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  Speaker 3: how many good plays there are in this slate. But
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  Speaker 3: one guy I'm really really interested in, and I'm interested
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  Speaker 3: in hearing your take because center is loaded tonight, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Jokic up top. We've got Dayron Sharp, Paul Reid, guys
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  Speaker 3: that look really good at their price tags. But man,
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  Speaker 3: Jarrett Allen was already looking good and showed that monster
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  Speaker 3: upside game in Portland before the Harden trade. We know
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  Speaker 3: what Harden does for his big men, EMBIAD MVP. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's done this in his entire career. Alan with
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  Speaker 3: forty plus DK points in both games with Harden great
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  Speaker 3: spot against the Wizards. He's only seven K. I think
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  Speaker 3: he could smash this price tag at very low ownership.
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  Speaker 3: He's the guy I'm really interested in in this game.
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  Speaker 3: From the Calves, how do you see it?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely agree with pretty much everything you said there. For
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  Speaker 2: Washington gonna be a max one and I would probably
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  Speaker 2: be fine if I don't have any Even if Sargat
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  Speaker 2: ruled out, they still have a good amount of bodies.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're starting to like pick between Anthony Gill like
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  Speaker 2: Will Riley, who has had a couple of big games.
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  Speaker 2: I would have a little bit of interest in him,
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  Speaker 2: but that's about it. And then yeah, the Calves offense
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  Speaker 2: looks great over the last couple of games with James
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  Speaker 2: Harden won twenty four point nine offensive rating over the
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  Speaker 2: last two games, which is the fourth best over that span.
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  Speaker 2: Defense not been as good one hundred and twenty point
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  Speaker 2: three defensive rating and sixty eight minutes with hard on
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  Speaker 2: the floor drops to one twenty four point three, So
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  Speaker 2: there's a chance that the defense could be somewhat bad
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  Speaker 2: or at least the worst of what we have seen
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  Speaker 2: from them early on. But they still have enough guys,
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  Speaker 2: especially when they get Mobile back, they'll definitely help them.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that I totally agree with you
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  Speaker 2: on the Harden and Donovan Mitchell something. Both these guys
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  Speaker 2: are fine. Dolvin Mitchell has actually been a little bit
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  Speaker 2: better with Harden on the court the season from a
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  Speaker 2: permanent standpoint. Obviously a small sample, but definitely having a
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  Speaker 2: guy like him to take away some of the attention
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  Speaker 2: that he has been seeing in some of these games,
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  Speaker 2: I think could help his overall efficiency, but they will
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  Speaker 2: definitely be a hit to his usage and just overall
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  Speaker 2: assists and rebounding numbers. For sure, sharing the court with
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  Speaker 2: Harden because he does so much. But I agree with
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  Speaker 2: you on Jared Allen. The only issue I have with
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  Speaker 2: him is that if we didn't have like two of
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  Speaker 2: those lower five K guys, Like if you took out
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  Speaker 2: two of those guys, then I would absolutely love Jared
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  Speaker 2: Allen because, like you said, I mean, Harden unlocks these
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  Speaker 2: big games from these big men. He's been always been
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  Speaker 2: so good in the pick and roll, and we've seen
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  Speaker 2: them from Jared Allen over the last couple of games
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  Speaker 2: with James Harden, So I totally agree. The issue is
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  Speaker 2: that I really think that like Where and Read and
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  Speaker 2: Sharp all have fifty plus DK pointside at their price tag.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit a little bit tougher to
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  Speaker 2: get there for me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's not even talking about Jokic. So I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I get it for sure.
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  Speaker 3: It's just and I just feel like all that I
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  Speaker 3: agree with, but that's also why he's gonna be really
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  Speaker 3: low owned. And you know, it's maybe about maybe potentially
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  Speaker 3: tonight going with a little bit of a different roster construction.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm with you, like on paper, those guys all
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  Speaker 1: look better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. We've seen slaves like this
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  Speaker 2: in the past, where these like it's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a dead range of centers. It just makes it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit tougher when we have such strong value, Like
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  Speaker 2: even if he goes for like forty five, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's gonna be enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the problem is, like to your point, like,
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  Speaker 3: it's not like we just have one of those guys
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  Speaker 3: where Alan gets forty five and that guy gets thirty,
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  Speaker 3: then you've got a good jump on the field.
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  Speaker 1: It's likely that one of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Scores in the forties at least, so that means you
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  Speaker 3: need like, you know, sixty plus. Yeah, yeah, exactly, or
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  Speaker 3: you're playing Allen with that guy and then four going Jokic.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you. It's it's a slim and
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  Speaker 1: a narrow path for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna have some Jared Allen in my
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  Speaker 2: player Bowl because he has done really well against Washington
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  Speaker 2: and it's clearly a spot that we've loved attacking with center.
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely think he's in play. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: building like one to three lineups, I think he might
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  Speaker 2: be out of play. Like he's probably I'll probably get there.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm like handbuilding ten, I would probably get Jared
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  Speaker 2: Allen in one of those. That makes sense, all Right,
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  Speaker 2: we can jump over to Atlanta at Charlotte. Now, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff up in the air for this game.
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  Speaker 2: We obviously got the suspension news for Miles or Miles
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  Speaker 2: Bridge is excuse me, and Mussa Diabat both out for
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  Speaker 2: the next four games, and Kobe White is still not
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  Speaker 2: suiting up yet. He'll be out for at least through
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  Speaker 2: the All Star Break, maybe a little bit after that.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of questional attacks on the Atlanta side,
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  Speaker 2: Dyson Daniel's questionable, Zachary Recischet, and Jalen Johnson. So really
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  Speaker 2: big ones there. We saw last game kind of what
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  Speaker 2: we expect. It was huge roles for Nikir, Alexander Walker
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  Speaker 2: and CJ. McCollum na's usage jumped up to twenty six
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  Speaker 2: point six percent. CJ got up to thirty seven percent.
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  Speaker 2: Both were on ball for about sixty percent of the
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  Speaker 2: possessions and potential assists jumped up for non from seven
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  Speaker 2: to eleven. Last game. CJ was on ball for fifty
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  Speaker 2: four percent of the game. So really solid roles for
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  Speaker 2: these guys. I think those are two guys you're looking
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  Speaker 2: to if if those Q tags are out. Wouldn't necessarily
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  Speaker 2: necessarily say that they must have plays because the prices
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  Speaker 2: are kind of where they should be, But definitely not
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  Speaker 2: one I would want to get away from because I
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  Speaker 2: do think that the Charlotte defense is going to get
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  Speaker 2: a little bit worse. Take away Diabata. He's just such
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  Speaker 2: a good rebounder and then Miles Bridges has been a
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  Speaker 2: pretty solid wing defender this season as well. They will
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  Speaker 2: have Grant Williams and Salon mixing in at the power
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  Speaker 2: forward spot, so two capable defenders, but not nearly on
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  Speaker 2: the same level as the diabate's and Miles Bridges and
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  Speaker 2: also Cock BRender should get the start. So yeah, first first,
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  Speaker 2: locked the window of the slate. How many are you
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  Speaker 2: thinking about getting this game? If anything? If the question
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  Speaker 2: tags are out?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's tough because like the Atlanta side is
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  Speaker 4: all gonna look a lot better if those guys are out,
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  Speaker 4: and I almost expect at least one of them to
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  Speaker 4: be out with it right before the All Star break
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  Speaker 4: they missed last game.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 3: Like Nikaile, Alexander Walker and McCollum are the two guys
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  Speaker 3: that obviously get the biggest bumps. It's just such a
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  Speaker 3: big slate, So like, yeah, if I'm multi entering, certainly
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  Speaker 3: giving a huge bump to those guys and getting to
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  Speaker 3: them in one lineup, I'm not sure, just because again,
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  Speaker 3: there are so many good plays on this slate, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel similar about Charlotte, who is getting a lot
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  Speaker 3: of ownership here all over. I get it, like these
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  Speaker 3: guys are projected to play more minutes and have a
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  Speaker 3: bigger role with bridges out, But I don't know how
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  Speaker 3: comfortable I feel on a thirteen game slate to go
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  Speaker 3: to LaMelo ball at eight K when he's still not
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  Speaker 3: playing massive minutes, Like he's projected for more tonight and
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  Speaker 3: he can certainly get there in twenty eight minutes, like
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  Speaker 3: his upside when he's on is really high, but at
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  Speaker 3: ownership on such a big slate with so many good
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  Speaker 3: point guards, like there are five point guards between seventy
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty two hundred, like right with him
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  Speaker 3: in the middle that I think are just as good
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  Speaker 3: as him getting a fraction of the ownership. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: a little bit learry on Charlotte Brandon Miller at small forward.
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  Speaker 3: Small forward is always weak, so I get that he's.
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  Speaker 1: Also getting ownership.
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  Speaker 3: This game is gonna get a lot of ownership, And
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  Speaker 3: I get it because it's a really good game from
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  Speaker 3: a DFS perspective, But there are other really good games
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  Speaker 3: from a DFS perspective, so I'm just not sure how.
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  Speaker 1: Good it is.
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  Speaker 3: Like if Jalen and Dyson are out, are Alexander Walker
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  Speaker 3: and McCollum or one of them, Like, would they be
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  Speaker 3: priorities for you in single entry stuff if you were playing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I would say that. There's a couple
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  Speaker 2: really strong guard options I like down low over them,
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  Speaker 2: I would probably want to set like a max one
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  Speaker 2: rule of the of those guys that would be available
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  Speaker 2: for Atlanta. Mainly, it's I'm pretty much just keeping CJ
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  Speaker 2: and Niky Alexander in my playerpool. I don't think i'd
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  Speaker 2: really want to get to Coong Wu with all the
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  Speaker 2: great center options, but I'd be fine with one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys, not both though. Yeah, Charlotte, Yeah for Charlotte,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you, Like they are getting
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of outsized ownership. This game has the
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  Speaker 2: fourth highest over under on the slate, and it's a
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  Speaker 2: really close spread, so you're definitely gonna see pretty much
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  Speaker 2: full minutes from these guys. This is I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if they play one more time before they all start break,
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  Speaker 2: but could be a situation where they just let their
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  Speaker 2: guys play full minutes and really try to come away
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  Speaker 2: with a win against a possible shorthanded Atlanta team. So like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm fine with all these guys at the ownerships that
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  Speaker 2: they're at, I definitely think that LaMelo is probably my
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  Speaker 2: favorite at eight K because he's just a little bit
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  Speaker 2: too cheap and starting to see the minutes kind of
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  Speaker 2: settle in like the low thirties. Maybe closer game he
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  Speaker 2: gets up to like thirty four, which would be really
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  Speaker 2: good for his price tag. Carp BRender is kind of
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  Speaker 2: a pretty big tier drop down from all the other
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  Speaker 2: centers that we'll talk talk about a little bit later.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they really are showing a willingness to
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  Speaker 2: play him a ton But I'm okay with Grant Williams
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  Speaker 2: at three point AK. I think that he kind of
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  Speaker 2: his position is pretty fluid, like he'll probably play a
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  Speaker 2: good amount of power forward and center tonight, and definitely
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  Speaker 2: a guy that can hit for big games at times
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  Speaker 2: if he's hot from a three point range. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I really want to get outside his
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  Speaker 2: exposure to this game early on when we do have
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  Speaker 2: some pretty big qut tex later.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Grant Williams shout out, like he's
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  Speaker 3: not a guy I'm ever rushing to play, but at
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  Speaker 3: this price point with Moosa and Bridges, out and like them,
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  Speaker 3: just not really wanting to play Carl Brenner much.
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  Speaker 1: I get that that makes sense, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I will jump into another game. This is probably one
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  Speaker 2: of the more unappealing games on the slate, Milwaukee at Orlando.
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  Speaker 2: These team has just played on Monday, huge blowout win
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  Speaker 2: for Orlando. Just a little bit of value potentially opening
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  Speaker 2: up on the Milwaukee side, Mainly just from a role perspective,
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  Speaker 2: some of these guys could look a little bit better.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Rowlins got a mid day downgrade with a right
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: foot planner fasciitis, which is not good. That's definitely something
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  Speaker 2: that could linger for a while. KPJ has been out
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  Speaker 2: playing him and it's had much a better role when
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  Speaker 2: these two guys are sharying to court together. So he's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the obvious choice, and I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good matchup for him. I'm always pretty willing to
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  Speaker 2: attack Orlando with point guards, just because they don't really
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  Speaker 2: send a ton of help to a guy like Jalen Suggs,
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  Speaker 2: and their pick and roll defense has been pretty bad
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  Speaker 2: for the past couple of years and pretty much since
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  Speaker 2: Suggs has been a focal point on their defense, so
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  Speaker 2: I'd be fine with KPJ seven point nine K. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like as a reasonable price tag, he's probably getting
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  Speaker 2: up to like thirty five thirty six minutes. This is
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  Speaker 2: his fourth game, fourth and fifth game back returning from injury,
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  Speaker 2: so he's kind of the clear guy that would benefit
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  Speaker 2: from Rowlins being out. That'd probably be where it starts
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  Speaker 2: and ends for me in Milwaukee though Orlando, I just
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  Speaker 2: don't see myself wanting to play these guys a good
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: matchup for them. Walk's been really bad defensively, mainly guarding
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the three point line. They don't really have those types
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: of guys that kill them. I would say Sugs and
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Bain have been shooting the ball better, So I'm okay
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: with those guys, But gets a max one for Orlando
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: for me, also, getting Fronds back, should continue to come
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: off the bench for a couple of games most likely,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: and he's definitely gonna be very limited. But yeah, just
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: what he does play, he does take on a good
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: amount of usage, So it hurts all these guys in
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: a pretty big way. See has there anything else that
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you're seeing this game that I'm not Because it looks
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: looks pretty gross.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks pretty gross, except for KPJ.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Kp Jason one of these point guards like Price basically
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: right at LaMelo ball that's not gonna get like Hobie.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Half his own is LaMelo, and he's been better than LaMelo,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: so it's not as good of a spot, but he's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: gonna play more minutes and he's half his own, so
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: like he's one of like I said, four or five
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: guys priced right around Mamelo that I could see pivoting to.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I'm with you that I think LaMelo is a good play,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: but at I'm also with you that I think the
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: ownership's outside. So I think this is just a good
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: spot to get different with guys that project very similarly
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: that for one reason or another, aren't getting the ownership.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And KPJ's the main guy. He's really the only play
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: from this game I'm even considering though.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty pretty easy to make the
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: case for fading pretty much everybody besides KPJ in that game.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: All Right, this will be a fun one to talk about.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Indy ed Brooklyn, we saw the Pacers come away with
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: a surprise win on the road in overtime against the Knicks,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: but then proceeded to rule out all of their main
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: guys Tonight really big game in terms of the taking
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: implications that it has for both these teams. So I'll
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: read of the injuries in this one or quote unquote
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: injuries Pascal Siakam out, Nie Smith out, Teacher McConnell out,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart out, Zubac out, and then obviously Halibern Furphey
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: done for the year, Obi top and still out, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: then questionable tags on Micah Potter and Jars Walker. Jos
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Walker feels like the one that's more likely to miss
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: if one were to miss. Potter played last game, didn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: really look like he was too banged up, and then
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Jeris Walker got the mid day down grade with the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: illness tag, so there's a chance that maybe if he's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: even available, he doesn't play much. And then for the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: net side of things, just Michael Port Junior has been
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: ruled out. Then Claxon dig Get downgraded to doubtful, so
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: they'll have a little bit more depth on their team.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: But definitely one of the guys that we're going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: be need to talk about is day Run Sharp. But
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I'll let you start this one off on the pacer side,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: or however you want to break it down, there's a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: ton of value in this one.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I think the nets is easier with just two guys
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: I'm really interested in on Brooklyn. And that's like you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: mentioned Dayron Sharp, who looks like you know, right up
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: there as one of, if not the overall best player
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: on the slate. He's getting so much ownership, and with
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: how many good centers are on this slate, this is
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: a rare time where I think you can consider fading
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: him or not. I wouldn't say fading him playing other
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: guys in any given lineup on DraftKings, because you mentioned
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: like three guys, like there's Jokics, there's Where, there's ray Naw,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: there's Sharp, there's Alan who I talked about. There's other
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: really good centers on the slate, Paul Reid. So I
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: think Sharp looks the best. He projects for a ton
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: of Fantasy points. He's too cheap at fifty two hundred.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: It's a great spot. I will most likely be playing him,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: but there are other really good centers. It's a thirteen
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: games slate, and he's gonna be we know how ownership
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: gets an NBA these days, Like he's gonna be seventy
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: five eighty percent owned, so take with that what you will.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: The other guy like on Brooklyn is Danny Wolfe. You know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I compare him to like Kalel, where I think where
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: as much higher upside at fifty one hundred the same tag.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: It's just so much easier to roster Wolf at power forward.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: And I think Wolf looks good here. He's playing well
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: right now. No Porter Junior has kind of solidified his
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: minutes a little bit, and then no Claxton, so I
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: think that just helps him even more. So I like
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Wolf and I like Sharp a lot. Those are the
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: two guys from Brooklyn. A little bit tougher to know
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: exactly what to do with Indiana. Quentin Jackson looks like
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: the best play on the Pacers right now, shooting guards,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: small forward eligible.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You know how I love that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Easy to roster fits basically any type of roster construction, cheap,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: playing really good.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Ball right now, thirty.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Six plus DK points and back to back games. A
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: lot to like there, Cam Jones, Kobe Brown. I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: those are two cheap guys you can look at. You know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: we'll have to wait and see. On Jaris Walker, I'm
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: more with you than against you that even if he plays,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not that interested in him, and he made a
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: good point.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Micah Potter sure.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Not excited about it, but he's thirty six hundred and
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: could have a big role tonight. So I think Indiana
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: has good filler pieces. I don't know if it's the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: type of slate where I want to roster like a
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: bunch of pacers on any one line.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Up, though, Yeah, pretty much agree with you there. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: think that the situation could change a little bit because
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: if one of Walker or Potter misses, which I feel
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: like is like a pretty good chance one of those
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: guys misses, they will only have eight bodies tonight. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: it's kind of the kind of the magic A went from. Yeah,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: so if that's the case, if it's Walker, that's out.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, Kobe Brown looks really really interesting at three
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: point five k they traded for this guy, Yeah, I like, yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like he was more of like a throw
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: in the trade, but was a guy that did have
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: an impact in terms of fantasy a couple times with
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the Clippers, and he looks like he's a decent talent.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: They would just be so thin and Jeremy Sochin just
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: got released. I was literally saying, like I saw that
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he got ruled out, I was like, why don't they
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: just release him, like they couldn't find a home for
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: him in the trade market, Just let him go find
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: somewhere else. But yeah, that finally happened, So it's cool
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to see hopefully to somewhere you can actually play. But yeah,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Kobe brown if Walker is out, I mean he's gonna
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: have to play a ton They would have no wing
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: depth really, so I'm definitely keeping an eye on Kobe
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Brownson I as the guy that I want a good
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: bit of because I think that he's pretty solid at
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: three point five k, like small forward is usually a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: spot you'd rather just spend down than spend up, So
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of kind of into him. And then yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think Hugh jacks Quinna Jackson one of the better
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: value players in the slate. I mean, he's probably the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: most talented guy on the roster if you take I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: don't even know, like maybe he's better than Jarris Walker.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: He's really good, like just a really solid player.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He's better offensively for sure.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe not like an overall player, but I feel
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: like he's he's got a really, really solid offensive game,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: isn't playing great basketball, really solid permitted producer, and like
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: you said, shooting guard small Ford eligibility makes him very
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: very interesting. So I definitely have a lot of interesting
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Quentin Jacks and Kobe Brown in particular. So some rules
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I would say here because I think if you just
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: ran the Optimizer naked, you're gonna get a lot of
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: these guys. They have a surplus of guards between Ethan Thompson, Taylor,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Peter Ben Shephard, Cam Jones, Quentin Jackson. I'm setting a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: max two rule of that group, and Quentin Jackson and
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Cam Jones would be my two favorites. And then if
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Potter is in, then it's gonna be a max one
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: of Jay Huff and Potter. And then I think that's
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: pretty much it because then it just leaves you Kobe
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Brown as a guy you could play with pretty much
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: any grouping, which I'd be fine with. I really do
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: think that if he's starting in Walkers Out, he's playing
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: like thirty five plus tonight. As for the nets side goes,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty much with you. It's pretty much just Sharp
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and Wolf. For me, just think I like Treyory and
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Demon as talents but just not on this this late
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: thirteen slides thirteen games like just a little bit too big.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: They're also, I think slightly negatively correlated starting alongside of
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: each other. So even if you are considering them, I'll
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: be Max one of those two guys. But yeah, they're
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: on Sharp clearly one of the better center plays on
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the entire slately, just a really really strong, permanent producer.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But like you said, there are ways that you can
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: not fade him, but just not play him because all
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the other guys in that same range are equally as good.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And I would say that, like Paul Reid in a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: game where Detroit is going to be trying to win,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more sense, like the same
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: thing for kloware Like these teams are trying to win.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I would say that the Nets would be pretty happy
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: losing this game. So if Sharp is playing too well,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: there's a chance that they just cut his minutes down
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: a bit. He has played more than thirty minutes in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: every game that he started this season, so should be
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: pretty solid. Regardless, we can move on to the next one.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Less to get anything else you want to add about
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just dreading the day like three weeks from
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: now when we're spending seven K and Jeremy Shohan on
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: the Wizards because he's dropping like forty Fantasy points in
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: thirty minutes every game.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that that that would be a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: pretty funny fit.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But whoever, Yeah, but you know how that goes in
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: NBA DFS.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I saw that they did a pretty poor job developing him,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: like try to make him a point guard when he
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: is not. I also thought that he probably thought he
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: was a little bit better than he was, Like that'd
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: be where I would watch him alongside Wemby and he's
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: like calling for al ups when Wemby is standing under
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: the basket, and it's just like it was just a weird,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: weird fit.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: They've fallen into obviously Wemby and Castle and Harper and
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the draft. But they like that was a they overdrafted
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: so hand for sure that year.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, don't have to worry about him anymore though,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: he's he's gone, So I would jump into the next game,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Detroit at Toronto. Obviously, the big news in this one,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Jalen Duran and Paul or sorry Isaiah Stewart are suspended.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart got suspended for seven games, Jalen Duran for
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: just two games, I believe. So we should see a
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: front court that consists of, for sure, Paul Reid's starting,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and then who gets the backup minutes. It's probably going
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: to be total Lou Smith. He was the guy that
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: got there last time. But they actually don't even know
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: who else they have behind him that could play center,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: So I'd imagine it's going to be total Lou Smith.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But Paul Reid is obviously the main guy that we
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: really need to be talking about. And then we do
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: have a spend up in this game, a couple spend
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: ups with Cad on one side, Scottie Bardes on the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: other side. It's gonna be really easy to get to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: these guys if you love their matchup or love their
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: upside in particular, and we should expect the Detroit defense
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we get a little bit worse Jalen during and as
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I Stuart two of the better rent protectors. I think
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Paul Reid solid decent shot blocker, but I don't really
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: know how he profiles as like an actual defensive presence
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: in the paint. But yeah, this game has a modest
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: total two twenty three, but a really close spread. Toronto's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: favored by one, so it could be one of those
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: games where they go over the total. Maybe they know
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: we look out into like a over time situation. Yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: how are you handling the Kate stuff and the Paul
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Reids in comparison to what we've already talked about on
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: the slate.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this game is appealing in the sense that
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it's a tight spread to good teams. Certainly Detroit's really good,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: but not a great game overall from just an overall
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: DFS perspective when considering the other games on this slate.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: That said, the two guys you mentioned wildly in play
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: and neither gonna be like crazy highly owned. Reid projected
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to be like a third a quarter of the ownership
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: of Sharp, and I get it, he's projected for a
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: few Fantasy points lower and he's three hundred more expensive,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: but man, like at that ownership discount, and I love
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: dairon Sharp, like there's I don't know if there's ever
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: been a slate where he's starting and he's priced, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: relatively cheap like he is today, where I'm not just
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: jamming him, But man, the ownership discount you're getting on
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: other really good plays that can ten x their price tags.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Paul Reid kellel Ware. I'm interested in Read here like
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: big time. Cunningham also not gonna get a ton of
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: love because he's ten two fairly priced, and you've got
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Jokic on this slate and Cunningham's been good, but he
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: hasn't shown like massive upside recently, so he's just gonna
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: fall through the cracks a little bit.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I like him.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: If I were multi entering, i'd probably over the field
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and one lineup really really tough to get to him.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: But Read man, I'm strongly considering him in my one lineup.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: There's obviously a bunch of centers. I like Sharp is
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the best one, but like, is he really that much
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: better than the other guys, I don't know, Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, definitely a valid question. I ask. I kind
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: of agree with you, Like, if the ownership is so
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: outside and people are gonna be playing Sharp at you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: thirty five percent versus Read a like upper teens to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: twenty percent, I do think it's worth taking the uh
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: trying to get the extra money to get to Read,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: because yeah, he's got definitely five or ten x upside
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: at this price that we've seen him before. He's only
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: top thirty minutes twice in six starts starts the season.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: But in the two games that both During and Asaiah
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Stewart missed, he went for thirty three DK points, which
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is okay, not great, but he did have a sixty
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: four DK point outing showing that he's got elite upside.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, elite upside.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And like the way, I'll kind of just put Sharp
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: in the best perspective, I can, like playing one lineup
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: in that million makers or a thousand entries in it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: If I were playing, like, I don't know what the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: max is, twenty lineups in it, I might consider just
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: jamming Sharp and going all like over over the field
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: on him. But in one lineup where obviously a lot
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: of people are gonna play him because he's gonna be
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: seventy seventy five eighty percent owned, I think there's just
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of leverage in playing two other guys. And
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: as I've said a couple of times, and I know
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you kind of said the same thing, it's not about
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: fading him. It's about there are other really good centers
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: on this slate. And the one other thing I'll say
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: is Sharp is obviously too cheap, but he's not like
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: four K Dayron Sharp.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: We've seen in the past.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: He's still fifty two hundred, so like you need a
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: big score from him with the other centers tonight, So
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I think that's kind of for me. Clearly, the biggest
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: talking point on the slate and read is the clear
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: direct pivot, and I think he looks really good here.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely agree with you that, and I agree on
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the Kid stuff just in comparison to some of the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: other spends, mainly Yokich, like if you can, if you can,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and we should be able to find the value to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: give to you. She'd probably rather do that. But I'm
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: definitely not scared off of the matchup for Kate at all.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: It should be Scotty Barnes on him. Kid we know
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: is a really solid permitted producer, does see a pretty
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: decently big increase to his rebunding rate, and we know
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that he's got some of the better ball handley, roll
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and like playmaking role in the league. So there's a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: chance that he could triple double and pay off this
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: price tag maybe six exit. I see that being as
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: a possibility for sure. I know that you're usually just
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: like a one to three lineup guy, but if you
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: were one fifty mixing any interest in this total of
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Smith as a pivot, like maybe Paul Reid gets injured
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: or foul trouble.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he definitely have to have some interest
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: in like a one to fifty type of setting at
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: thirty four hundred. The problem is is how deep center is.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: So like, if he gets you twenty five fantasy points
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: at thirty four hundred, like on paper, you're happy with that,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: but that's not going to be good enough tonight.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: You need him to like go for thirty.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Five here and it could happen, but I think he'll
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: need like some outlier stuff to happen. So he's going
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to be like probably with how this slate is playing out,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I think definitely under one percent owned, so like it
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't take much to get over the field, but it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: tough to see him being like on the optimal lineup tonight, you.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, any thoughts here, people will definitely do this.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: It's more so about you can get different combinations that
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: don't include sharp I would.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah, exactly like I was. That's a great question
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: because I was literally gonna say before or before that
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: was asked. As much as I'm talking about Paul Reid
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: as a direct pivot off Sharp, I don't think you
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: have to play either of them. It's that loaded of
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: a center slate. I mean, you talk about kalel Ware,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: who we've mentioned a bunch, Jokic who will get to
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: but like he's gonna be a mainstay in a lot
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of lineups, talked about Jared Allen Ray, not like there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: a role for Bam out of Bayo on this slate.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: There's more than.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Just Read and Sharp. Reid is just a clear direct
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: pivot off of Sharp. And if Reid's ownership is really
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: gonna be like a quarter of Sharp, he looks really good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was gonna I think I'll save what
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say about the center position towards the
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: end of the show. But I do have some thoughts
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And excited to hear it because I actually I've talked
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: a lot about it already.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so I assume nothing on Toronto. Then these
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: guys are all pretty fairly priced, nobody projecting great. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: think the only guy that's kind of close to a
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: five x value is RJ.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Barrett.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe that could change. Sandra would be another guy in
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the mix if Yakaporta would have missed, but I'd have
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: him pretty far down the tier list if if he
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: does get the start, like compared to all the guys
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: we've already talked about at center, and we will talk
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: about a little bit later. But yeah, anything on Toronto,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think you're so muted.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: As much as I want to like the idea of
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: playing Sandra here, you just can't on this slate.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: There's just so many other good guys.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But he's another one, Like if you played out this
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: late ten times, like he would beat Read and Sharp
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: like one or two.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Of those times in my opinion. So there's a role
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: If howerballta entering, I don't think it'd be hard to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: get over the field on someone like that.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: You play like two percent of him and it might
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: be over the field.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's better other positions, seeing if only
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: playing one center most of jokis in my twenty definitely
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: think it's viable tonight. I would say that usually point
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: guard and center values a little bit better than like
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: small forward or power forward value just because it's a
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: little bit easier to rack up fancy points when you're
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: getting rebounds and for a point guard when you have
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: the usage. So that's kind of my take there, But
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: any any thoughts in that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be way different if you only
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: play one center tonight, because centers look really really good here.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I mean usually on a slate like this, the most
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: optimal lineups are gonna be two center lineups.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they have to be, Like.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: There are guys that this slate is so big, there
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: are guys that we aren't even gonna talk about that
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: are like priced around sharp and read that are you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: small forward shooting guard eligible that will outscore them. Because
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: random guys are gonna have big games tonight. So it
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean you have to do that. But from how
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this slate, I think that playing two
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: centers is probably the optimal way to go.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree there, all right, jump into the next
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: game New York on a back to back after the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: overtime loss to the Pacers playing in Philly. Philly has
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: got a couple pretty big Q tags Joel Embiid, Quentin Grimes,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: and Barlow. I wouldn't say that it's going to open
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: up center value that would be comparable to what we
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: already have. But it obviously would make the rolls for
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Tyres Maxin vj. Edgecombe look a lot better. The Knicks,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it looked. I thought Og was getting the night off
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: last night just due to rest, but he got ruled
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: out tonight. If I'm not mistaken, you believe he is
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: still out right toe tonil evulsion. I don't even know
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: what that is, but it doesn't sound good. But Mitchell
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Robinson will be back tonight to give them some of
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: the front court depth. And yeah, this is a naturally
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: televised game, so usually means a little bit longer timeouts,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: probably getting really full minutes from all these guys. But
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the Knicks, like I said, we're just in an overtime
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: game last night. Yeah, anything you like in this game
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: pretty low total. But we definitely have stars that we
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: can pay up for tonight.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so obviously a big Q tag with Embid. If
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: he's in, like man, he is going to get no ownership,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and there are certainly slates where he goes for seventy
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and like matches Jokic and he's just a much better play.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But doesn't seem.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Very likely, and if he's in, it kind of takes
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: you away from the Maxis of the world.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: If he's out, I mean Maxie himself.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Ninety five hundred, just massive role without MB, coming off
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: a stinker without MB last time out, but that was
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: an aberration.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: He would immediately look really, really good.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: It's hard to say with any of these guys, kind
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: of like Atlanta, that they would become musk plays because
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: this slate is so big. I don't think there's any
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: must plays on this slate at all. Considering how ownership
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: is playing out, there are reasons to get off any
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: particular player on this slate.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: And again, lineups or I view it more.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: About like how lineups are put together as opposed as
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: specific plays themselves. So MAXI would look really good. The
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: value stuff would look better, but I don't know how
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: much better. And then for New York, like Josh Hart
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: coming off a massive game but obviously a tougher spot
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: tonight second half of a back to back, price tags
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I think are a little bit higher.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Like New York is a team.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: If I were multi entering, I'd be getting too, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: in one lineup, I don't think i'd get to anything
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: from this game except for you know, maybe Max the
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: fmbat is out. I certainly don't want to say I
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: wouldn't get to him. How do you feel about this game?
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm too under on this game.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel that way too. It just
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: just feels like the Knicks are always involved in some
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: really solid game environments. But yeah, these guys are priced up.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough to play Brunson over some of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the point guards that we have in the same range
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: or even cheaper. Also, he's kind of struggled in the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: matchup against VJ. Edgecombe, so it's not a great spot
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: for him. And then Kat at a point one K
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: normally be a spot that you definitely want to fire
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: him up, but just with the strength of the center position,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: he's pretty far down the list for me. He's done
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: pretty well against Embiid in the past. I like the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: shout on heart. Seven point one K is a big
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: tag for him, but he's coming off of a huge
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: game and generally just gets a lot of really weak
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: defenders on him that will leave him open, and he'
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: shooting the ball really well. This season just saw him
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: go for a triple double last night, so obviously the
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: upside is there, so I'm okay leaving my playpool. But yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I just think it's gonna be a Max one of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the Knicks, probably Max one of the Philly guys too.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Wardo likes MAXI tonight because no og, I believe it's
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: been a lot of from not a sake. I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Max he been guarded by McHale Bridges. Yeah, he's seen
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: McKale defense third most over the last three seasons, so
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: I would expect that to be the case. But Mchal's
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: done a good job against MAXI two hold him to
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: just fifteen points per seventy five possessions. Really good. I
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: think Max he had a decent game against the Knicks
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: earlier this season. He just plays so much and if
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and beat his out, then it's kind of hard to
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: see him fail in a big way. I would I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: would say that he's got a better chance of hitting
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: than failing if em beat is out. Anything else you
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: want to add in this game.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: No, I guess just like to put it in a
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: little bit of perspective from how I'm seeing it, Like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: let's say that and beat us out and the two
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Atlanta guys are out, How do you view MAXI compared
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: to like Alexander Walker a MC column as far as
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: priorities go, Are you not there yet?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Because I get it if you're not.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I think I would probably have MAXI ahead of those guys.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And I think the main reason is because we're gonna
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: need to spend our money, and I would probably I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: think there's a better chance that we wind up in
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: like that nine K range versus like the mid to
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: like like the seven point five K range.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It might be like a dead zone for them, kind
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of like we talked about with Alan.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's there's really really solid shooting guard small
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: forward value download tonight. So it's gonna be tough to
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: like get outside ownership on those guys their outside exposure,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: But I definitely think that they are in play. But
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I would probably probably just side with Maxie. I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: that the rule is just gonna be undeniable for him.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And yeah, like Wardo said, there the Knicks have been
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: they've been struggling a little bit without OGU. Would you
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: have any interest in VJ if those Q tags are out,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: he's getting getting cheaper. Six point six K is not
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: not a typical price side for him.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: No, you're buying low coming off a couple of rough games. Uh,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: he's cheaper. But I just think he's in that dead zone.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: And like everyone in my lineup tonight, again, only playing
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: one lineup is going to be a big priority. I
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: can't see it. If you want to tell me in
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: one fifty you're getting a little bit over the field.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I get that if you were to say that, I'd
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: like to know who he'd be getting under the field
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: on though, because there's always a correlation there, and I
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: don't really see it with DJ right now, do you?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: No? Not really. He's played a ton of minutes in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: games against the Knicks of season, so definitely will be
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: opportunity for him.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: But all those guys are out.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think any of the other Philly
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: guys that are going to be playing are bad plays.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree there. Yeah, we'll see what happens
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: in this game. I definitely see this one being close
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and competitive, but Vegas seems to think it's gonna be
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: lower scoring, So we'll see what happens there. All right,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: very frustrating team. And talk about Chicago at Boston. Chicago
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is somehow finding a ton of minutes for all the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: guards that they have. They basically have two, I mean
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: really like one big man on the roster with Nick Richards,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Gershon Jobuselli pretty small for a center, and then Patrick
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Williams is not really a center. So they're very thin
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: in the front court like we'd expect. I don't even
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: know if they signed anybody recently that could help there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: They still of Lachlan Ouldbrick, but haven't been really given
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: him minutes, so they'll be thin tonight. Know, all these
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: guys are doubtful, Trey Jones, Jalen Smith, and Josh Giddy,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: so pretty unlikely to play. Yeah, I mean they're running
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a tight rotation, but it's a lot of guys that
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: kind of take up the same positions, a lot of
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: guards that you'd want to play if you're playing Chicago.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Also a huge spread, Boston favorite at thirteen and a half,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: so really really good chance of this game. This game
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: blows out. Boston's obviously gonna be bombing away from three.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: If they get hot one quarter, it could turn into
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: a twenty to thirty point lead at some point. It's
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: worth noting that coin Sexton did play into blowout last game.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: So they might look at him there. But yeah, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: mean I see this as a tough spot to get to.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: On the bull side, I have interest in these guys,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but now they're all getting a little bit priced up.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So is there anybody that's really standing out to you
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: on the on the bull side, because it's getting pretty
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: tough for me to pinpoint who to play here.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that with how you broke it down
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: and how I agree with that, the only guy I
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: really like is the cheapest guy, and that's Dillingham. And yeah,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: it's just so hard to get to him on this slate,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: like just because again, like I'm only playing one lineup,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I'm I don't think I can play Dillingham in that lineup,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: like because as much as I think he's sneaky and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: could you know, he's the guy because he's the cheapest.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: He also is fighting for minutes with Sexton and Simon's
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: and Ivy and he's the low man on the total Bowl,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: So on any one night with how they're splitting it,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: he could be the guy and he's my favorite. I
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: tryd of wish I was multa entering because of that,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: like playing one point fifty because I would get like
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: three percent of him and be way over the field.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: But other than that, I don't think you can do it.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Nothing really on Chicago and then Boston it's Jalen Brown
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: or Bust Brown. The problem is the blowout. But we
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: know that he can get there a weak small forward position,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: so I'm with you. I'd rather spend down, and I
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: probably will spend down, but it's also merit and just
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: nuking the field if he goes for sixty here, So
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that's it for me. Probably a game I just pass on.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I agree with you. I do. I think
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: there will be times for Rob Dillingham. I'm not sure
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: if this is the slate. I definitely think that he's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's clearly talented. He was what a former
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: lottery pick, just couldn't really get it going in Minnesota.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: New home in Chicago, I think that they'll probably view
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: him as like a piece of the future, so we'll
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: see what happens there. But it's just gonna be really
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: tough for him to find a ton of minutes with
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: all the depth they have a guard, so probably gonna
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: be a max one of all the guards, Simon Sex
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: and Ivy Dillingham and then if you're considering Yaboo or
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Nick Richards, which I don't really think you need to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: on the site, it would be Max one of those
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: two guys, Max two overall in Chicago, and then with
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you on the gym and Brown. So I think he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the only guy that's really in play. Just adding a
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: guy like Bucevich who can take up possessions just gonna
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: make it really tough for the rest of the Celtics
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to pay off their price eggs. All right, I think
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: that does it for the seven thirty pm window. We
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: go to the eight PM. Now we got first game
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: in a slave Miami as road underdogs against the New
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Orleans Pelicans. Wow, that was the first thing that stood
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: out to me. Yeah, I looked at the spread last time. Man,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: they're down bad. I kind of feel like that's an
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: indication that Wiggins is gonna miss. Not sure if he's
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: worth a ton of points, but obviously he's kind of
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: there last line of defense behind Davion Mitchell. Defensively, Pelley
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Larson was the guy they really leaned on for defense.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: So they'll be without Wiggins tonight. If the question attack
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: does get downgraded, I kind of lean him being out,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: they called up their G league guys, Golden and Keisha
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Johnson got upgraded, so kind of feels like more of
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: a doubt attack for Wiggins, but we'll see what happens.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: And then Pelicans fully healthy Miami coming off of a
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: really bad loss to a tanking Jazz team that weren't
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: even trying at the end. They're so really really bad.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Look for them. Surprisingly first in defense over the last
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: two weeks, but just twenty fourth in offense, so this
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: should be a really good get right spot for them.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: But the Pelicans, I'll say, are playing pretty competitive basketball
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: right now, which should improve the game environment. Obviously, Pelicans
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: favored by one and a half, so the game should
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: remain close throughout, but their eleventh in defense and twelfth
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in offense over the last two weeks, both these teams
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: kind of lean more three point final. Obviously, the Pelicans
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not great defending really anywhere, but they have been better lately,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: but their room defense has been bad. Transition defense been
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: pretty bad as well. And then the Heat. I expect
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: them to run out the double big line up again
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: with where in va Adebayo You mentioned it at the
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: top of the show, but where busted at chalk last game,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: just could not say out of foul trouble six fouls
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: in like fifteen minutes, which has got to be close
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: to record. But I think that Jake Labia might have
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: beat that last night. But yeah, I'm colo ware. I'm
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: pretty excited about because he was the one that really
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: stood out to me in that low five K range
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: of centers that weren't getting as much ownership. Asley normally
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: would if this was say, like a like an eight
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: game slate.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Like any normal slate, Like yeah, normal slate.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, compared to all these guys, he's got
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to have the best matchup between Paul Rea Dayron Sharp
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: and I mean maybe Reno has a has a better one.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Sharp probably is right there with him, But from what
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: we've seen season long, it's got to be Cloware with
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the best matchup. And sure he's got a ton of
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: ton of upside. Had been really really strong from a
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: permitutent standpoint in the minutes without Hero and Norman Powell
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: and then you take off Wiggins, he becomes like borderline
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: e lead one point four to three fantasy points for
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a minute, just one hundred and thirty four minute sample.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: But I think going back to last year, it's pretty
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: much in line with what we would see tonight. So
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I like, where as the guy that I'm using as
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: a pivot off of some of the chalkier guys are
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: even playing with some of the Like, I'm fine having
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: him with Sharp, find having him with Reid, fine having
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: him with Ray Now, I think that he's in a
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: pretty good spot here. Then it gets a little bit thinner.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Casparus has been playing really good lately, but they have
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: three point guards that we'll see the floor. A guy
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that I would keep an eye on for value at
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: power forward would be some money Fontechio. It'd be a
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: good matchup for him as like a three and D guy.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: If Wiggins would have miss his game, I think that
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: they'd really rely on him for a decent amount of
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: minutes and solid permitted producer one point one with Wiggans
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: off the court of the season. But yeah, talk to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: me about what you're seeing in this game. I think
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: that it's got pretty solid. Like, I don't know if
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you need a game stuck on this big of a slate,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: but if there's one that's gonna shoot out and be close,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: it could be this one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: You took the words right out of my mouth, man, Like,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know if a game stack, a full game
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: stack is the way to go on this slate, because
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: there's so many good plays in so many different spots.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: But this is like on the short list of games
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: for me that I really really like. I love seeing
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: New Orleans is a small home favorite here. I think
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: this game is competitive, high scoring. Miami's gonna look to
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: get right. New Orleans just playing good ball right now.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you. I'm where like I'm playing one lineup.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'm gonna get to him, but he's
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: definitely on the short list. I think his upside is
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: massive here, and he just can't be that highly owned
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: because you've got Sharp, you've got Read, you've got Jokic.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: To answer the earlier question of why won't people just
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: jam Sharp and Read together, they probably will. But to
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: that point, there's other really good centers on the board too,
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: and where is right there priced with those guys.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: He looks really really good here.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I think Bam certainly I like him better when he's
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: starting at center, but he's just playing massive minutes. Huge
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: role is gonna feast in this spot and if for
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: some reason they change their starting lineup and like Where
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: isn't starting, then Bam gets a bump for me, So
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: I like Bam.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Either way, But yeah, Miami looks good.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Casperus is another guy that would get ownership if this
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: were a normal slate, Not as much as Where, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: thirty nine hundred playing good ball right now. He seems
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: to have kind of supplanted. Drew Smith is the backup
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: point guard. I do think it's like who's ever playing well?
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: But he's playing well right now, so I think it's Where,
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: then Bam, then Casparis, and then if Wiggins is out,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I think you could potentially get deeper, especially if you're
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: playing a bunch of lineups. And then from New Orleans,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Trey Murphy. He's another point guard price right with LaMelo
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that I like here. I don't know if I like
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: him more than Kevin Porter Junior, my boy, Isaiah Collier,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: who will get to like they're a bunch of really
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: good point guards tonight. But Trey Murphy's in that mix,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: and I like New Orleans in this spot. Jeremy Fears
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: as a role shooting guard eligible as well. Forty five
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: hundred coming off a big game, got some blowout run,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but we know he can get there. He's talented, Zion,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, he just lacks upsides. It's hard for me
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: to prioritize him all in all. Like as much as
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I like this game, I don't know how many pieces
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I'll be able to get to from a DFS perspective,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: but not going to be surprised as multiple get their
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Sadik Bay, I like this game.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. The Pelicans look pretty solid here.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Just family Miami a team that can give up a
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: ton of threes. So that would mean Trey Murphy and
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: side Bay for me. And we've seen Murphy. I mean,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: he'shooting really well right now, fifty seven point five percent
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: from three over his last three games, had like a
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: way to go for like twelve three pointers against who
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: was at.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: That game, that monster in Atlanta.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee, Yeah, Milwaukee. Yeah. I mean he's shown like sixty
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: to seventy point upsite multiple times this season alone, Like
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: in the past month, he's gone for sixty one, sixty two,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and seventy point five against some pretty bad teams. That
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: was Brooklyn, Washington, Milwaukee. But he did have a sixty
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: pointer against Minnesota sixty pointer against Antonio, so you can
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: do it against better defenses. See, I think Murphy is
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: kind of the guy that you can use as like
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: a pivot off of those guys you mentioned at point
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: guard the LaMelo. I think he might be a hair
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: behind KPJ. But if I was using it like a tiebreaker,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: if I had where, you know, competitive game, maybe Trey
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Murphy makes a little bit more sense as a correlated piece.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: And if you have like Sharp or Paul Reid, then
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you go KPJ something like that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also like there is an ownership discount
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: on Murphy here, like he's not going to be nearly
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: his own as LaMelo and probably KPJ if and when
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Roland is ruled out, So like I do think that
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: those guys probably project a little bit better. But at ownership,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: give me Trey Murphy here I already mentioned another guy
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: There are a bunch of really good.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: Point guards on this slate, and just you asked me
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: at the beginning to give like my outside view on
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: this slate, and now I can do it as much
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: as crazy as this slate looks from the outside looking in,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: when you break it down like we are right now,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: it's just wild man, Like we're just a little bit
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: over halfway through, Like this is just an insane slate.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I always enjoyed doing these Oneday slates with
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: you kind of start to see the forest through trees
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit once you get deeper into the slate,
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: So it's always good to be I agree with you.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: I think Murphy is a pretty pretty strong tournament played tonight.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I think that would do it for that game. I did,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: like you mentioned Caspers, but yeah, just a little bit
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: tougher to get there on this big of a slate. Okay,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Portland at Minnesota two teams that were playing really good
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: defense earlier in the season but have kind of slipped
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: as of late. Portland has provided some really good game environments,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: they just haven't been on a ton of main slates
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: because they usually played later being on the West Coast,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: but their bottom six in defense over the last two weeks,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: six in offense and ninth and pace this month, the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Wolves are seventeenth in defense, so well below their season average,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: but fifth in offense over those last two weeks. I
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: won't really spend too much time on the Blazers tonight
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: because I feel like they are a team that is
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: healthy and not really playing their guys a ton of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: enough minutes to really be entirely viable. But the Minnesota
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: side definitely won that we could spend some time on
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: because Anthony Edwards did get the downgrade throughout the day
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: to question well, I'm not sure when that report came out,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: but if it happened the day of like illness tags are,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the hit rate is on them,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: but there's a pretty good chance that he would miss tonight.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: So some value or some mid tier upside plays could
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: definitely open up in Minnesota because we know that guys
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: like Julius Randall nas Reed. Bones has been a guy
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that's really picked up a bigger role with in the past,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: but a little bit of a different situation now because
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: they have Iodasumu, who's a guy that they traded for.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how much I would expect Bones
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: play here, but yeah, I mean the game environment looks
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: really good. It's a solid game total, close enough spread
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: where we could get full minutes from these guys. Denny
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: was on his way to around thirty two minutes I
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: believe last game, and uh, everywhere around the industry hasn't
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: projected pretty low. Saver's gone for thirty. I think I've
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: seen some other places in like the twenty eight minute range,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: twenty nine minute range. I feel like he's probably closer
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: to like thirty two to thirty three then he is
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: to thirty. But even then in nine one two K
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: you really need him to do a lot in those minutes,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a tough spot for him going
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: up against Jaden McDaniels. So, yeah, is there anything in
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: this game that you're you're waiting on? Obviously the Ant
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: news could change things a little bit, but these guys
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: are priced fairly appropriately, I would.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Say, yeah. So with Denny Beck, nothing on. Portland's a
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: priority for me and Minnesota, And the only guy that
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: really is in play for me here if Ant is
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: in or out, is Julius Randall. So he's a guy
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: I like as is and would become a really good
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: play if Ant is out. The problem with the guards is,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: like you mentioned with des Sounmu there now they've got
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: a plethora of them, with Bones Highland like having a
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: real role. So I think Bones would be my favorite
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: because he's the cheapest, but he's not cheap anymore. So yeah,
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: like he's not super cheap anymore, I should say, So
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: it's really just Randal for me. And I think Randall
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: is like a cog in the machine type of play
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: a whole home big upside game last time out, so
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: like he has it in him with aunt out, I
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: would like him more. But all in all, this is
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: not a game I'm going to be going to like
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: in drones in DFS here.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish that this was like a if it
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was like a four game slate, I would have a
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: lot of interest in some of these secondary pieces on
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: the Wolves because Blazers are really getting killed in transition
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: right now. They've been turning the ball over a ton,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: so like it could be a spot where you see
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Biden or Dante go for like three four steels something
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: That also makes me like the soon too if Ant
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: is out, Like, yeah, there's still like with these traded guys,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of unknown in projections and I think
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: that you can kind of get an edge there. And yeah,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be tough for me to play him here,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: but I think he's got real upside.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: To your point about down.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, what is he I mean yeah, I mean
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: played thirty minutes last game, So yeah, he's definitely got
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: a legit role from Minnesota. We've never been partnered with
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Fantasy Labs always always savors him. Appreciate that. Andy. Luckily
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: you will see Matt again tomorrow filling in for for
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Title Town who just had a had a kid, So
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: shout out to my guy Zach. But yeah, that'll do
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: it for this game. We got a rematch from last
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: night Clippers at Houston, big blowout for really not that
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: big of a blowout. They Tyler pulled the plug way
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: too early, I think, but he's done that all the
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: time in his career, so not very surprising. This is
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: when I don't really think that when you spend too
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: much time on unless there's something you really that really
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: stands out to you. But I'm like Kawhi again a
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: ten k think I'm fine with him. I always got
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: just a massive role with Harden and Zubac out and
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: then Daris Garland still out Mather in his back or
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: it is playing, so he'll take a little bit of
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: usage away from him, but not enough to really take
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: away from him. He's been great from a permanent standpoint.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: It's just the I mean, Houston's favorite by almost double digits.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Now, and.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I mean the Clippers are just so bad when you
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: take Kawhi off the court. It's like the kind of
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: like the Jokic effect, yeah years ago, where the bench
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: was just so bad he had to come back early.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: But it's different because Tyleru just does not bring his back,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: does not bring Kawhi back when the game is getting
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: somewhat out of breach. So yeah, nothing, nothing for me
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: in this game. Honestly, I would be max one both sides,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: and I'd be fine with zero. What about you?
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Same?
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: I think this is an easy game to skip, except
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: that Kawhi, Like he's clearly shown he's got upside of
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: ten k, but he's fairly priced. And the problem with
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: him here is like if you're playing him, you're not
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: playing you know, one of Jokic Maxie, like a bunch
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: of really good plays here, and he's fairly priced, if not,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: like like this is about as expensive as he'll be
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: despite those like two really high upside games he's had recently,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Like you're paying.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Full freight for Kawhi.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's overpriced, but it's not like you're
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: getting a deal for a mere tough spot. They played
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: last night, same game. You know, am I going to
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: be shocked if he gets there or has a big game? No,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: but this is probably an easy one to say I
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: won't get much of.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree with you. Yeah he did. He won
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: with Tucker. I thought he was gonna I figured after
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: he said he likes the alliteration, he'd deal with Tucker.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: But I he asked me which one I liked better,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: and I initially said Weston. But Tucker's obviously a great name,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: all right, So didn't spend much time on this one.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Spend a little bit more time. Actually, this is probably
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: another one we don't spend too much time on. Okac
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: against Phoenix. Spread did go in Okayse's favor over the
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: course of the day, and that's probably because Devin Booker
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: and Jalen Green did get downgrade. Expect those guys to
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: probably miss tonight. So normally, if this was a smaller
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: slave like we've been saying, then you'd have interest in
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: like the Dylan Brooks Gillespie. I guess you know they do.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: They are guys that you can consider tonight because they're
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: a little bit thinner than they normally were. Cole Anthony,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know if he's gonna make
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: his if he's gonna play with them, or if he's
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: just injured. But yeah, Grayson Allen is out too, so
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: definitely thinner than they normally were. So yeah, I mean Gillespie, Brooks,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Jordan Goodwin are guys that would be in consideration for me.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: And then okay, see, I don't think I'm getting to anybody.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I saw lou Dort getting a little bit of ownership.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Actually I don't even know if that's yeah, no, so okay, see,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: he's kind of a kind of an X out for me.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: But I think Phoenix could definitely get better. So anything
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: that you're thinking about in this game, okay, see Phoenix.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: It's funny.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: No, I had the exact same like thought train when
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I saw the news and kind of thinking about it,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: like it's probably too big of a slate for the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Phoenix guys, or is it, like because with Grayson Allen out,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: if you get Booker and Green out, yeah, I think
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: there's a role for the Phoenix guys, Gillespie and Brooks mainly,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: and I expect the the Bookers of the world not
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: to play obviously, he's the big one. And the other
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: thing that it does is it gives you, you know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: late roster spots, which we don't know what news is
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: gonna come out already during our show. Stefan Castle is questionable,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: so like that could potentially open some stuff up with
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: San Antonio, which is a late game, and there's four
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: other late games, so if nothing else.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: It buys you time.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: But as is, like with those guys out, I think
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: Brooks and mainly Gillespie for me look good right on
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: the precipice of probably too big of a slate, they're
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: still in play.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean luckily San Antonio is they left
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: that game off so we don't have to wait around
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: for that one. But the point, yeah, it's just that
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: that would be the fourteenth game, but hart remains things
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: could happen throughout the throughout the slate that could change
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: things up. I mean, we don't really know for certain
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: what Utah is going to do. They've been doing some
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: weird stuff with their rotation. But yeah, I mean Gillespie,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Goodwin and Dylan Brooks all see a pretty big role
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: increases with Booker, Grayson Allen, Jay and Green off the court.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Gillespie's at one point two six Fantasy points for a minute,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: so it's pretty solid for his price tag. And I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: actually think that it's an okay matchup for how Phoenix
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: would like if they were to win this game or
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: if it's close, like they're gonna be bombing away from three,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: so all these guys have a little bit of three
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: point upside. I'm seeing Dylan Brooks take ten threes in
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: back to back games, just not knocking them down. So
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: if you hit the right Dylan Brooks game, he could
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: go for what we saw him go for was it
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: sixty like a week or two ago, So definitely in play.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that overall the game environment looks
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit worse. Okay, So he's obviously still one
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the league. I don't think
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: that I'd be playing a much jade up tonight. Only minutes, right, Yeah,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: it's only like a second game back, I believe since
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: the injury, so probably still gonna be pretty limited, especially
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: with the break coming up. I don't think they're gonna
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: run him out there for like thirty four minutes tonight.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I've been waiting for like a massive game from home, grin.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: But like with Hart and Steinback, it's just not happening.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: So this is not really the slave for it when
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: he's still really priced up. But I do feel like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the big game is coming from him sooner rather than later.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the last time he did have a
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: really big game, we were on him against the New Orleans.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It was at a kind of end of January, I believe.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: All Right, next game Memphis at Denver. Huge spread here,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Denver is favored by what was it fourteen points. Memphis
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: is another team that trade away some guys and also
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: dealing with some injuries. So John Rants still out, Brandon Clark,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Zach Edi and Santia Doma all out such a coward,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and Walter Clayton Junior got doubtful tags. And then they
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: have lost in I don't know if it's levering or levering,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: and then O Max prosper are off. The injury report
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: extremely thin in the front court again, Kyle Anderson has
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: been starting at center over the last couple of games.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: And then I think like Gigi's mixed in a little bit.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Taylor Hendricks had a good game last time out, But
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: this is a team that's just not playing anybody more
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: than like twenty eight minutes most signs. I don't even
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: know if they've had anybody top thirty in a couple games,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: So I don't really this is not a situation i'd
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: really personally want to be messing around with. But yeah,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: talk to me about the Denver side. I think there's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: two viable spend ups obviously, Jokic and Andremal Murray for
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: we don't have a projection on Yokic right now for
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: some reason, but we'll get him in there.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jokic is going to be the top spend up
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: option on a slate with a ton of value. It's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: just a matter of not even like whether you think
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: this like if Memphis can stay somewhat competitive here yokicic
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: to get there. It's just about whether you want to
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: go with a different type of roster construction. I'm sure
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: most optimal line lineups, a lot of plus EV lineups
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: are going to give from Saber Sam or whatever simulator
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: you're using. You know, one of most likely Sharpen Jokic
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: with all the other value we have, and.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I get it. They both look really really good. Tough
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: to get away from him here.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Especially the more value we get, the harder it is
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: to get away from Jokic, because I mean, as good
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: as the other center plays are, he's really the only
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: one that can put up like one hundred if everything
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: goes right, you know, likely like eighty or seventy five
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: or some score that you really really need. So certainly
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: a fade at your own risk type of play. Jamal
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: also in play to a lesser extent, he just continues
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: to play really good ball even with Jokic back. So
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: another point guard that's not going to get nearly as
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: much ownership as like the LaMelo balls of the world.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: So in play for me, But I you know, I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: don't think you want to play both of them together
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: on this slate, So I think looks a lot better
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: in any non Yolkic lineups. I don't think you have
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: to play him there, but he looks better for me there.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: And then the only other guy I'd mentioned is Julian
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Strawther forty five hundred fine value play.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see a situation where Yokic doesn't smash them.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: And as he's on the court, I mean, Memphis has
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: no size right now in the front court They've become
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: like one of the worst, if not the worst, rebounding
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: team in the NBA, and the rim defense has been
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: terrible as well as their three point defense. So there's
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: just so many ways that Jokic could go for like
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: thirty five, fifteen and twelve and like three quarters and
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: still be the guy that you needed at center. I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: definitely think that's within the range of outcomes. Do they.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I think the Nuggets have either the best or the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: second best projected Yeah, so right behind Cleveland. They have
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the second best team total one twenty six on Sabers him,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: So somebody's gonna be scoring here. I do like your
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: strather shout. He was not a guy that I had
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: on my radar, but I like that they're four point
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: five k. Nobody's gonna be playing him. He'll be a
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: guy that probably plays in a blowout as well. Been
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: playing well lately. I haven't really watched a lot of
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of Nuggets games, but he's been playing pretty
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: good basketball lately.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: No Payne Watson, no Aaron Gordon. So just a nice
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: role for him right now.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there you go. Jokisch is what Wenby was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Versulaka the same. Yeah, honestly a very similar situation. I
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: don't like to go too deep into it, but I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: don't know people like react enough to the opposing team
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: missing so many players that contribute on defense, like they
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: worry about the blowout, but the Nuggets are still going
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: to put up points. K is gonna it's gonna do
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: well for the time he's out there, just because the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: team is the Memphis are just so bad on defense.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: I know earlier on you kind of teased that you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: were going to give like your thoughts on center. Was
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: this it that like Jokic is a must play that like,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: despite those other guys, you have to play Jokic.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Basically, No, it wasn't like a crazy, crazy take. I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: was basically just saying, like I don't I'm not gonna
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: be playing any of the guys that are power forward
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: center eligible at center tonight. It's gonna all all centers,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm probably gonna keep my playpool very very tight,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Like I think it's gonna be seven to eight guys
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: at center that I'm playing, but a bulk of it's
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: gonna come from four to five guys, I would say,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm I would say double center is gonna I'm
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: gonna eat up most of my rosters tonight.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: I would say, and I'll say this, I agree with
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: you about Jokic, and I think he's the best, you know,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: even points per Dowur, potentially one of the best players
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: on the board.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: But it's such a big slate where I think you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: can make.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Plus EV lineups without him, like it's hard to get
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: away from him. But he's also gonna be really really
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: highly owned in you know, smaller field stuff. So like
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: there's just there's you know, roster construction leverage, I guess,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: especially when you know you're playing for first and the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: drop off after first is massive, you know.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, good point there. Yeah. My dog just sitting
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: on my door trying to get in and then she
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: just leaves right away, so hopefully she didn't disrupt.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever my wife is not home and I do
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: a show, like, my dog is so annoying doing that
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: like in and out, like.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Just it's just crazy.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She my dog runs the household for sure, though
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: she's she's the boss.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Mine used to before we have kids. Now the dog
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: just sits in the corner hoping to not get bothered.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so last game on the slate, the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: one with the biggest I mean the second, biggest, first, first, second, whatever,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: biggest tanking implication. Sacramento at Utah, Utah favored by five
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: and a half. Right now, you know, let you let
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: you kick it off. I have a, I guess, a
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: slightly contrarian take on what Utah will do tonight. But
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: you talk to me about the Kings.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's mostly about the Kings here.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Like Utah, it's Isaiah Collier is the guy I like,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: probably no surprise, even last game he still played thirty
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: four minutes. We're not gonna get like the forty eight
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: minutes without Chiante because I feel like they've reached now
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: to the point where he's too good to play most
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter, which.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Stinks and makes it so I don't like him as much.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: But another guy priced around the LaMelo balls of the world,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: Trey Murphy, that I like. I want to hear your
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: takes on Collier. But as far as Sacramento goes, they
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: look really really good. Here three main guys for me
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: that were in the slate plan that could all be
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: potential core plays. Nie Clifford, Dylan Cardwell, Devin Carter. I've
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: been on Carter since the jump was out. On that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: first game where he got a little bit of run
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: wasn't great, and then has just proceeded to basically smash
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: ever since.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Huge role right now, and with all these.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Guards out for Sacramento, he's gonna play big minutes and
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: he's a guy that produces when he gets on the court.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: So Devin Carter getting a ton of ownership, but at
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: that price point, hard for me to get away from him.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I do view him as a similarly good play on
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: this slate as Sharp, and while in a vacuum, Sharp
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: is the better play. I think safer centers, etc. There
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: are so many good centers. I think they do look
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: similar tonight. Nick Clifford just playing massive, massive minutes. They
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: want to see what they have in him, just likely
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: to get there on mass, just volume, not volume, but
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: just minutes alone. So I like the spot for him.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: He's still affordable, good position eligibility. And then Cardwell is
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: playing more minutes because he's been good and because they're
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: missing guys kind of just a grinder inside, and he's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: still really cheap. So those three guys I think are
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: really good plays on this slate. They're all getting owned,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: but nothing crazy outside of Carter because of how big
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: the slate is. I'm interested to hear your take on
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Carter at his ownership, and then Collier mainly, and then yeah,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: the other guy is obviously right now here coming off
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: a monster.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Game last time out.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: Add him to the list of five k to fifty
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: five centers that look great tonight, yep.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have nothing really negative say about
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Devin Carter. I feel like he's probably the guy that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I'm starting my lineup with. I mean, I feel like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: the thirty one minutes that Saber has right now is
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: going to be a little bit too low. Like I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: really think that he could play thirty six plus and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: just taking away all the guys that would normally take
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: up usage, and then even DeMar De Rozen probably not
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: playing much in the second half. Like there's just very
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: few ways outside of him really just airballing or maybe
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: get into fallaciuble where he doesn't doesn't put up a
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: score that you at least that is at least useful
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: at his price tag. But I think that more times
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: than not, he's probably going to be optimal at some
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: position in the lineups. Tonight, so I'll be playing him
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: in both of my million lineups tonight for sure. And
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: then yeah, Raynad is a guy that or Rey. Now
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: you just have to compare him to the centers that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: we have. He just came off. It's coming off of
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: a fifty point DK outing when you have like nineteen
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: rebounds in that game. And Utah has been given up
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: a good amount of Fantasy points opposing centers all year long,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: So there's really nothing negative to say about him. We'll
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: do a little bit of a center in point guard
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: ranking at the value position. I feel like those are
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the spots where it's really condensing at the end of
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the show. But yeah, I'm with Unique Clifford, a guy
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: that's seen a huge, huge role increase over his last
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: couple of games. His involvement percentage, so it was basically
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: just like a combination of how often you're involved in
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: possessions on offense has jumped from nineteen point four percent
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: of the season up to thirty five point six percent
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: in the last two games. He's on ball a little
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: bit more, jumped from twelve to seventeen percent, shooting forty
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: percent from deep over his last two games and taking
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: a ton of shots as well, so it's just an
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: elite matchup for three point shooters. I really think that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: he could hit in a big way from a scoring standpoint.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, Cardwell is a guy that you and
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: I both have really liked for quite some time. He's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: just a good player, like just a really high energy guy,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: good rebounder, played thirty two minutes last game. He's double
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: digit rebounds in four straight games. I really like his
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: game and I'm pretty excited about playing him tonight. I
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: think that he might make sense in line up. SID
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: do not contain Reno because playing both those guys, I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: think you're kind of limiting the overall upside. You're playing
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: two front court guys, and in that situation, I'd rather
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: get to to a sharp red where or Yokic something
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: You agree there?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: It's just such a big slate or it's hard to
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: see both those guys having maximuve upside and you kind
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: of need that tonight, So yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: And then a couple of guys to keep an eye on.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: I don't really think that they'll be much in play,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: but de Quon plowden Isaiah Stevens will be in the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: rotation to some degree, I think that this is too
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: big of a projection on pressure Soshull personally, he's probably
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: playing like twenty minutes tonight, and then I'm not going
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: to mess around with like the Doug McDermott or Drew
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: you Banks. You're pretty much keeping your playpool on the
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: kings in my opinion, to Carter, Reno, Clifford and Cardwell,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: and that makes it pretty easy. And then I would
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I think I'll probably set a max one of Cardwell
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: and Reno. I'm fine getting three kings, and I think
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: my take on the Jazzo, I do agree with you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: on the call of yourself, like he might be might
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: just be too good for them to like they might
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: need to sit him towards the end of these games.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: But he's I mean, the role has obviously been amazing.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: He's had a couple of games where he played forty
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: eight minutes, so we know the upside is there. He's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: been really good this season from a permanent standpoint, and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: he should have little to no resistance here. I think
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: all the potential assists could get converted here, so it
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: could be another game where he gets like fifteen to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: sixty potentials. But this would be the first game at home,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I believe since Utah has been kind of doing these
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: tanking shenanigans, I think that there's a chance that they're
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: just like that, Yeah, like they could just be like,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: fuck it, let's just play our guys a ton of
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: minutes to night and put on a show of fans,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: because I just don't think that they I don't think
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: they can outtank Sacramento tonight, and I think that they
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: know they're going to win, so you might as well
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: just like really really win in a big way. So
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of I don't think that the these guys
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: are like Milli Maker, like single untry type plays, but
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I do want to get some exposure to Callier to
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: maybe not as much Lori because I just think he's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: a little bit maybe a little bit captive dek but
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: like Jaron at seven point five, I think is in
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: play first game, Yeah, first game at home. I really
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: think that they could just pour it on uh, Sacramento tonight.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: The only problem I have with that is like if
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: they do that, they will destroy Sacramento and then like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: they're probably not playing the fourth anyways, So there could
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: be like that medium where like they just like Sacramento
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: stays in the game because Utah is not great anyways,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: but they are a lot better than Sacramento tonight. I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: do see that scenario playing out potentially playing out as well,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: Like they've been kind of the talk of the town,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: for better or worse. Probably for worse because every team
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: is doing it. They're at home now.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I could see these guys playing at least a little
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: bit more.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm in on Collier, like he's still projecting to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: play a lot of minutes and he still played thirty
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: four minutes last time out.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: It's such a good spot, no Kiante, Like Kier's winning
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: me a million tonight.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, I love it. I love it, honestly.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: The it's like I'm trying not to let it get
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: to me too much, but as a jazz fan and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: somebody that frequents Utah a ton just all the all
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: the negativity around these ESPN talking heads about Utah is
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: just so like it's just to de Yeah, it's.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: It's so that's a great way to describe it.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how can you be mad at one team for
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: doing it? But look at what the fucking Kings and
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: the Pacers are doing tonight and the Jazz are playing, Like,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: would you rather them just sit out Daring Jackson the
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: entire season, like like Anthony Davis and Trey Young and
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: just lose games by thirty every night? Would you rather
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: the Stars play three quarters? It'd be competitive and then
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: they sit them in the fourth like, I don't know,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like they're doing it in an ethical way.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: But these Brian wyndhorses who I normally like, and then
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: like Bobby Marks, and you know, there's a couple other guys,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: but just I don't know. It's kind of just tone
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: deaf to me. But that's my little tanking rant there.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot worse as we get closer
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  Speaker 2: to the end of the season. But been going for
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  Speaker 2: an hour almost twenty now, But I would do want
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  Speaker 2: to do a quick little value breakdown. Let's start with
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  Speaker 2: the top guard values. Then we'll go to centers. Give
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  Speaker 2: me your your top five at the guard position if
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  Speaker 2: you if you got that ready.
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  Speaker 3: Uh top five value plays at the guard position or
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  Speaker 3: like top.
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  Speaker 1: Five overall plays.
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  Speaker 2: Uh guard? So let's do like the like the cheaper
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  Speaker 2: value plays.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so obviously I think one is going to be
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  Speaker 3: Devin Carter, two is gonna be short shooting guard eligible.
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  Speaker 3: So I throw Quinton Jackson in there, man, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: or the other pacer guys.
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  Speaker 1: Like Cam Jones.
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  Speaker 3: I think you could throw in there, but I doubt
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play those guys. So I think after the
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  Speaker 3: top couple guys I mentioned, you know, Carter Jackson, maybe
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  Speaker 3: Cam Jones, you know, if you want to throw like
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  Speaker 3: Nie Clifford at fifty five hundred shooting guard eligibility and
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  Speaker 3: they're sure, I think then we do get to.
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  Speaker 1: Guys like Casperis.
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  Speaker 3: So if for not including like the Lamelos who project
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  Speaker 3: well from a value perspective, I think Casperus is there
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  Speaker 3: all in out. I don't think there's like that many
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  Speaker 3: cheap cheap like there aren't any stills, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: like three K to thirty five hundred dollar plays I
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  Speaker 3: want to play, except for Kobe Brown. You know, Grant
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  Speaker 3: Williams fits in there, but I think it's more about
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  Speaker 3: like the four to five K range and then spending
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  Speaker 3: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you see it?
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty much exactly what I had as my top
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  Speaker 2: four Carter, Quentin Jackson, Kim Jones at Clifford. Yeah, if
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: through Collin Sexton in there as well. Sure we have
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: a pretty strong value score for Taylor Peter, but I
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: would be a little bit weary there. I just don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he's really NBA talent. And then centers, any
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we know like the top four guys
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  Speaker 2: who they're going to be, But anybody else you want
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  Speaker 2: to throw in there?
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  Speaker 3: No, But I will say, like I mean, when you
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  Speaker 3: don't consider ownership, I think think it is sharp.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's sharp read.
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  Speaker 3: Man where Raynaw, But like those are all so interchangeable,
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  Speaker 3: and the fact that there's four of them with one
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  Speaker 3: of them getting such massive ownership. Again, I said my
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: spiel already, Like I love Dairon Sharp, so I'm gonna
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: have a really hard time not playing him. I might
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  Speaker 3: just play him. But like, man, like those aren't even
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: the other Like there's other centers. I like Jokic talked
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: about Jared Allen, like it is really hard to play Jared.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Allen on a slate like this after talking about it.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, those guys, and then is there anyone else
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  Speaker 3: even like besides.
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  Speaker 1: Those like four that are.
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  Speaker 3: In that range that I even like, no, I think,
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  Speaker 3: but for center for me tonight, like it's where Ray Naw, Sharp, Read, Jokic,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: Allen Bam. That's seven guys for me. I can't see
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: playing any other center on this slate. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you see it similarly. I'm sure you see it similarly.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: But who else would you add?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: If anyone?
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  Speaker 2: I think the only other person I would probably consider adding,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: and this probably wouldn't be for anything more than one
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: fifty max would be Cock Brenner, Carl Anderson, and Nick Richards, okay, and.
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  Speaker 3: I also would throw an MD I mean as like
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: a tournament one fifty guy because like it's mdeed, but
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  Speaker 3: man like it's so loaded all those guys, Like we've
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  Speaker 3: talked about a normal slate a couple of times. All
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  Speaker 3: four of those guys and then Jokich obviously would be
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Sharp is massive chalk here because he looks the best.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: But the other three guys would be massive chalk on
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: normal slates. We just saw it with where he was
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: sixty eight percent in the two twenty two the other night.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: That's not even like that high dollar compared to tonight,
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  Speaker 3: So imagine what where would be in the Milli Maker tonight.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, like all those guys are really good play,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a loaded, loaded slate.
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  Speaker 1: We don't get many of these.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not. I think, uh, ownership adjusted, where is
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  Speaker 2: my top guy at center between those those cheaper plays,
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  Speaker 2: But it's obviously like you're it's you're cutting. I shall
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: know what the term is, but they're all really close.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My only like hesitation with like saying, you know, I'm
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: not gonna play Sharp and I'm gonna play where or
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: whatever because of the ownership is maybe that ownership projections.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: Usually with these top guys, the guys projected for like
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: sixty seventy percent ownership, Like it's there, and they're even higher.
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  Speaker 3: But I could see tonight where like instead of excuse me,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: seventy five or seventy percent, Sharp is fifty percent because
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: people do want to play Red and raynaw and where
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: in that case, I think Sharp looks like the best.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: But still in that case he's gonna be getting so
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: much more ownership than the other guys, it's still probably
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: worth looking at getting away from him or playing lineups
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: without him. So I just think there are so many
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: ways to go on this slate.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely just did sort or I changed the source
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: to high Stakes M and ME because that's what we'll
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: be using for the at the MILLI make it tonight.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: But you see Darren Sharpen Paul Read the two highest
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: owned guys currently. It could could definitely change, but that's
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: what it is currently.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: You think that those two guys will both be higher
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: on than Jokic.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I do, yeah. I think I think that people will
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: probably feel pretty comfortable going double spind down Center and
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: then trying to find elsewhere, which makes getting up to
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Jokic like a contrarian option. And I think that you're
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: locked in for like sixty two points at a minimum.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I think that I personally think Sharp and Jokic will
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: be like the most popular pairing. But I'm not gonna
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: be surprised at all. If it's Sharp and Read, it
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: will be sharp for sure. It's protecting so well. Whether
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: it's Read or Yokic, I think it's gonna be one
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: of those two guys. And then I do think we're
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: gonna get a massive ownership discount on Aware and that's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: really really appealing.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely, But all right, that is gonna do it
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: when our twenty two today, but always always a good
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: time talking hoops with you, And we'll be back tomorrow
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: for I haven't checked yet, but I'm assuming it's gonna
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: be a much much more slate, So big excited. I
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: think that's the last one before the All Star break.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: We'll get a couple of days off and then be
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: back next week. But yeah, for for Matt and for Rio,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow. Good luck tonight, everybody, and we'll
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  Speaker 2: get you later.
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