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Rob J Madin: Brett Domino Trio, Sheffield Greats, The Almighty Algorithm, FulchFest & Angry Oasis Fans I Ep.35 · Rich Fulcher's TalkBox

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  But we delivered the bomb. Hi, it's Rich Folger of Rich
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  Folter's talk box. We're in for a treat today
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  because we've got Rob Maiden. He's with Brett Domino Trio,
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  which only has two guys in it, and they're a funny group.
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  They do great songs that are on the Internet.
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  You probably seen them. We'll have the link, but we talk
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  a little bit about his musicianship, about writing
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  songs and what not. You're going to love it.
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  And also don't forget we've got merch.
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  This, plus T-shirts and hoodies and candy canes and cupcakes.
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  No, none of that. But we do have all the other
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  stuff. Anyway, here's Rob.
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  You are not going to die. Oh, hi, Rob.
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  What are you doing? What am I doing here?
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  Yeah, you're doing your. Podcast.
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  Nice hug. How are you doing?
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  Yeah, have a seat. I'm always surprised when guests
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  come by. Yeah, well, I just, I'll drop
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  in. Off the street.
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  Saw the sign outside. A lot of my guests are from
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  Sheffield, yeah. What is it about Sheffield that
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  all these creative types come from there, Jarvis?
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  Yeah. Have you had him on there?
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  No, but you hang out with him, right?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do.
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  Yeah, and there's a couple of mystery writers up there.
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  That's Victoria Down. Yeah.
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  Yes. No, I, I, I.
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  And the Crucible. Yeah.
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  We've had Ronnie O'Sullivan here.
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  No, no. But have you ever been to the
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  Crucible? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  My wife used to work there, so she used to go quite a lot
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  really. Yeah, I've that's one of that's
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  on my bucket list. Have you not been?
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  I want to go to the Crucible. Have you been to Sheffield?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you go to the Crucible?
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  Do you just show up? I mean you can do.
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  I think if you want to go to an event, you have to have.
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  Sorry. Oh, cheers.
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  Oh, cheers, you're on the whiskey.
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  Yeah, yeah. Did you want some?
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  No, it's OK, OK. Sorry.
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  Oh, sorry to be so specific, but the Crucible, how do you just
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  can you you have to buy it way in advance.
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  Well, it depends what the show is, I think.
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  But you know if the show's. On the snooker.
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  Oh, the snooker. You're talking about the
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  snookers, right? Did you know it's fair?
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  Oh OK, I thought it was just snooker.
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  Oh, it's snooker. I'm so stupid.
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  It's snooker when the snooker's on, but the rest of the year
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  it's just a, it's just a have you?
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  Seen the snooker? I've not seen the snooker.
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  OK, yeah, but it's a great vibe when the when the snooker's on.
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  I wonder if the crowds are wild or not.
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  I think they have to be completely silent, don't they?
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, Liz, we were just
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  talking about this a while back. I did a gig and like like 15
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  years ago, I did Folch Fest. He did.
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  And Pete Heat was there. He's been on.
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  Oh yeah, And all these people, you were a staple of that show.
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  Yeah, it was really exciting. We did it at the Bull and Gates.
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  We did Kennish town. Yeah, it was really the scene
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  for all of London wasn't. It it was, yeah, all the the
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  movies and shakers of the 2000 and 10s.
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  Do you remember when we first met?
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  No. OK, fair enough.
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  I remember it like yesterday. You've got a blurry time.
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  Room. Yeah, and angelic music played.
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  Now I think we just started. Somebody recommended you.
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  Yep. And we had you on.
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  And of course, the rest is history.
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  You guys killed? Well, it was he was because it
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  was me and was it packed with on the drums because we were like
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  the the stage band? Yes, so there's me on the keys
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  and then I feel like steed it a few.
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  Oh yeah, we had a little band. But there was it was mainly pat
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  on an actual kit. Yeah.
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  And so you are Pat, Pat. Pat the Baker's Pat.
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  No, we're going to cut this part off because I have no idea what
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  you're talking about, Pat. Yeah, Pat, he is a comedian.
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  Tom. Pat Cahill.
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  Oh, Pat Cahill. Yes, yes, I'm such an idiot.
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  Pat Cahill. Yeah, he was.
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  He was awesome. Yeah, he was part of the the.
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  Name. He and John Kearns were comedy
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  buddies. Yeah.
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  And yeah, we had loads of people there.
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  We had Steve Merchant showed up one night.
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  Yeah, I remember. Beat he Tom Eaton.
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  Yeah, drunken. You.
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  Me. Jess, Jess, Jess.
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  I'm not good with surnames. Jessie Ventura.
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  Jess Armstrong. No, Jess, she did Drifters cut
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  this cut this bit as well. While we think we're going to
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  cut this. Jess, just get Wi-Fi down.
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  Here 2 hours later. There's no signal that'll come
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  to me. Yeah, it's OK.
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  It's OK. Yeah.
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  So we did a lot of stuff. Yeah.
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  And then I left. I went to LA and you blew up.
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  Not related I don't think but. No, but you blew up.
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  You're you're all over the TV. You started getting all these
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  guest spots. Yeah.
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  Brett Domino. Yeah, yeah.
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  Trio, which is just you and another guy.
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  Yeah, it was originally a trio. How did you?
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  Oh, it was, but it's funnier. It's funnier with the two of us,
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  yeah. Yeah, and how did you meet the
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  other guy? We and the original third member
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  we all lived in student halls in at university.
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  At Sheffield. No, in Leeds, Leeds College of
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  Music is where we met. Leeds Oncology Music So you you
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  played music for cancer patients?
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  Yeah, that was the the sort of course we did.
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  You are not going to die. Yeah, it's finding a cure
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  through helic music. That's an interesting thing.
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  No, it's college. Yeah.
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  College of Music you got right. Right.
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  We that's how we met, Yeah. So you went through College of
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  Music, Did were you doing gigs in school?
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  No, we, where was we formed the the Brett domino stuff in right
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  at the end, so right at the end of university and.
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  I have a cat. Are you allergic to cats?
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  Yeah, and we have a cat, so that shows you what a masochist I am.
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  What's What's your cat's name? Ziggy, Ziggy.
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  Yeah, nice. So sometimes the cat will crawl
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  on my head while I'm asleep. Right.
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  Is the fur is it that you? But the cat knows I can't
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  breathe. It takes about a year for it to
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  get out of my system. So I'm just waiting for the cat
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  maybe to die. Right.
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  And then a year on from that. Everyone's going to get another
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  cat in the family. Yeah.
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  How long have you had Ziggy? Well, eight years.
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  Wow, it's been a hard yeah. It's been hard anyway, sorry,
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  sorry. Sorry, what we're saying so.
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  You did gigs right before you got out of college.
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  Yeah, that's when we started doing the Brett Dominatrio
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  stuff. Yeah, 2009.
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  Oh, right, so we caught you. Yeah, it wasn't that fact.
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  That's probably the first comedy gig that I did.
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  Foltch Fest could. You say that I kind of
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  discovered you. Yeah, pretty much.
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  Certainly Harry. Harry.
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  So that's great. That's amazing because you know
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  when you find somebody like you and everybody loves you and then
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  all of a sudden you, everybody knows you, you take a certain
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  amount of pride in that. Yeah, yeah.
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  I wouldn't say everyone knows this.
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  Everyone knows you now. Now if you haven't.
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  Seen it? You got to go on his website or
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  Instagram. Yeah, at real Brett Domino.
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  Yeah, I think that's what it is. Right.
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  How many videos would you say you have?
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  Well, I don't know. I simply don't know.
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  Minimum 10. I only started the Instagram in
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  February so and I've been trying to do one a week.
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  So he's got about 100,000 followers and he needs at least
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  2200 thousand. I do.
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  I've had a meeting with a specialist.
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  But how do you know if you're not?
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  Like I never know if you're. This isn't me though.
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  I never over saturate but how many is too many videos?
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  I don't know. You can never do enough.
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  On TikTok, apparently there's no such thing as too many.
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  Really. Yeah, people are, you know,
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  people. Want to see more and more?
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  Yeah, and people are posting different edits of the same
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  video just for the sake of the algorithm posting.
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  Not every day, just content content content.
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  Is that they like you, They want to see you.
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  Yeah. Immediately.
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  Well, I think there's a bit of that, but also on TikTok, the
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  algorithm just shows your content to random people who
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  don't follow you. So that's how you yeah, if they
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  have a phone, that's how they you bring people in and gather
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  more followers. How does the algorithm work?
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  I don't know. I don't know, but it's
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  fascinating and and also like, I hate it.
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  I I mean I am both appalled by it and in reverence to.
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  Yeah. And I, Yeah, you have to.
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  You have to. I hate that you have to appease
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  it. It's like a Big Brother, yeah,
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  who wants the remote control, and you sort of got to give it
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  up to him. Yeah, you've got to do.
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  Yeah, it's just, yeah, everything, everything comes
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  down to the first millisecond of your video.
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  I've discovered really, I went on the discovered the analytics
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  page on TikTok and it said it's like how your videos are
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  performing and it said. Start in G.
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  What? You start in a certain note.
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  No, it says it tells you how many people swiped away from
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  your video and at what point, and it says something like 88%
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  of people are swiping away within the first.
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  I think it was .4 second. Really.
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  So it's literally. But what was it about that .4
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  seconds? Is that what you have to figure?
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  Out. You're scoring.
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  Yeah, you have to. That's why I've started having
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  the whatever the hook of the video is, you have to have it
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  written on screen so that at least they'll stick around to
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  read it. Meet sweats, you know, like,
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  immediately. Yeah, so they're like, oh,
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  what's that? Did you ever see interviews with
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  Mr Beast? No, he said.
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  That's all he did for, like, instead of going to college, he
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  hung out with these four guys and they would meet in all day
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  talking about. They do thumbnail videos, which
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  ones worked, which ones did. It was like a whole university.
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  Yeah. And they would talk about it
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  every day. Yeah.
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  So. And that's worked out for him,
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  isn't it? Yeah, I wish he would write a
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  book. Yeah, but do you've got you've
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  got the hang of it? I'm getting the hang of it.
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  Every time you get the hang of it, it changes.
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  It's it's exhausting. Yeah, let's get back to you, OK?
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  You and your friends. No, no, But sorry, I'm all over
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  the map. It's this cat.
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  Yeah. No, it's, it's fair.
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  It's fair. So you get out of college and do
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  you, did you have another job or were you kind of like, let's do
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  this music thing? I had I worked part time at
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  Boots over the Christmas period. What section?
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  Christmas. Christmas section.
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  Yeah, Yeah. For I think, well, it would have
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  been about two or three months and since then I've managed to
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  not not have really. Yeah, you've.
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  You've made your money all on music.
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  Well, I I've managed to, that's great to sort of scrape by for
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  15 years. Oh, that's.
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  Awesome doing bits and bobs, but it's it's hard isn't it?
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  I used to in Chicago. I used to temp and I used to
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  cater a lot. Did you?
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  Yeah. Like events.
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  Yeah. And I was in a hotel once where
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  I'd cater every night and you'd, like, hold the trays and stuff.
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  But because I had two jobs at this one time, all the people at
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  the hotel called me half dead because I looked like a zombie.
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  So they said, hey, half dead, there's a plate of chicken.
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  You got to pick that up. And I go.
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  So I'm glad I'm not doing that. I mean I try to remember if I
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  think I have a bad now. Yeah, exactly.
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  You know, you said you were actually with this, quite lucky.
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  Shitty podcast. No, no, this is one of the best
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  things I've done. Yeah, but when you think back to
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  boots or something, then you know.
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  But that's the problem with memory is you don't feel the
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  same pain as you used to. You gloss it over.
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  Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, there's been times where I've applied
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  for jobs because I've, you know, had no money.
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  Yeah, but it's. Then something always happens.
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  It's it turns out it's quite tricky to get a job when on
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  paper you've not had a job for a number of years.
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  In a way it's kind of a blessing though, because once you get a
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  job, you kind of want to hang on to the job.
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  Yeah. And then you start
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  rationalising. I want I've got to keep this
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  job. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I've got a gig in London. No, I've got the job.
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  Yeah, it's true. So you wouldn't be able to do
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  exactly like this. We wouldn't be here.
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  In your basement. Cave yeah.
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  So when you did so, did you start off doing gigs or did you
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  do stuff on the Internet first? It would mainly, well, it's
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  always been mainly stuff on the Internet.
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  So, but way back in 2010, that was like the early days.
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  Yeah, I mean, that was genuinely probably the, as I say, the
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  first comedy because when we first started doing it, it
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  wasn't really a comedy act. We were just sort of dicking
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  about and making silly videos. But then when we started doing
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  stuff like Fulch Fest, that opened up.
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  We opened up your horizons. You opened up a lot of doors.
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  Yeah. And.
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  And then I started to think, yeah, this could be more of a
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  comedy act. And it.
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  Oh. So you weren't really
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  necessarily comedy? No, I mean, it was, it was a
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  joke, but it wasn't. There was no thought.
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  We weren't doing comedy songs or we're just doing like covers of
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  of pop songs. But on the the joke was that we
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  were quite socially awkward and playing them on essentially toy
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  keyboards. I have a theory about why you
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  did that. Yeah.
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  Because I think you really did want to do comedy.
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  Yeah, but this is your way of segwaying.
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  Yeah. Like, people like covers.
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  You play a cover, you get enjoyment out of it.
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  Yeah. And then maybe you slip in some
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  comedy. Well, yeah, exactly.
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  That's how it that's how it happened.
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  And then eventually you became full on comedic superstar.
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  Well, it did with the first, I think the first comedy song that
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  I did was for a night, a comedy night that Harry had booked
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  Harry the the same Booker as Full Trust.
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  Yeah, yeah. And I, it was like 5 minutes
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  short of material. So I decided I'll go on Twitter,
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  which was fine to use at that point where they had the
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  trending bar and whatever was at the trending perfect, I would
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  write a song about that because it would be current, topical,
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  whatever. So that I wrote a song that it
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  was Gillian Mckeith who was on I'm A Celebrity at that time.
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  That's great. So I did.
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  I wrote a silly song about that. And it was the biggest hit and
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  it. Was yeah.
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  It was in the charts. Got in the charts.
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  You know why? Because people have an
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  expectation even in a silly song, you know, like, oh,
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  somebody's doing a song about dogs or something, but that
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  comes out of nowhere. Yeah, it was a bit random, but
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  the, the stupid thing was when I in between me writing it, it
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  getting in the charts and then doing the, the live show that
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  I'd rent it for, when I went to do it live, I was like, you guys
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  probably recognise this one as currently #22 in the Top 40.
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  And it turned out no one in the audience had heard it, had
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  watched I'm A Celebrity or knew who.
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  Julia Mckeith. Was really.
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  So it was the most painful 4 minutes of my life.
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  It's awful. Oh no, this audience, which is
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  like, oh, so that was a shame. But that's what egged me on.
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  Yeah, yeah, it gave you a little inkling to keep going.
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  Yeah, so and here. We are no.
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  So after that you started gigging and then you got some
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  interest from because you did Britain's Got Talent.
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  What was the? First, Oh yeah, the thing you
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  did that was I think maybe that was pre full trust.
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  OK. That was like one of the first
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  things we did. Yeah, that was how.
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  Did that come about? I thought, well, I was the.
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  It was at the time where we were trying to be create some
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  ambiguity as to if these characters were real people or
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  whether it was an act. So it's an actual group.
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  Yeah, I thought it would be quite a a bit domino thing to do
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  to go on Britain's Got Talent and I thought it would be quite
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  funny and you know. How did you guys, did you guys
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  advance or? Well, yeah, we, we thought we
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  would just go on, they'd all press the buzzers and we'd go to
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  the pub and that'll be that. Yeah, maybe get a bit of telly
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  coverage. But I think they, I think Simon
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  Cowell was the only one who pressed his buzzer, which meant
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  that we actually, we had to like come back.
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  We had to have there was like an 8 hour day.
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  Did they go, Simon? Yeah, the other two, yeah.
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  It was like it was Piers, not Brosnan, Morgan, Kelly Brooke,
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  and I don't like Kelly Brooks and Amanda Holden.
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  Nice. And they all.
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  They all gave you the thumbs. Up they all gave us a thumbs up
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  yes, which was good at the time but then as I say it was like an
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  8 hour day coming back to London being in a holding pen got on a
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  bus with like you're. In prison.
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  Essentially, yeah. Just you and Britain's Got
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  Talent prison. It's just a big room with like
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  all these weird people you got put in a group.
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  Who did you meet up? Did you meet up with the winner,
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  eventual winner, or was there a dog act that you had to deal
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  with? Well, you see we in that bit
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  where they were revealing whether we got through, we were
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  put in groups that would have been bussed over to the judges
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  to be told and our group was the last one of the day to go get on
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  the bus. And I think in our group there
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  was a little lad who's doing keeping up his, there's an old
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  guy who could play the Match of the Day theme tune by doing that
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  with his hands. Which, which to be fair, it was
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  great, it was really good. But it was quite clear that we
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  had not progressed to the live final just by looking around the
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  room. Wait, so all of this is done in
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  like a day? Well, that, yeah, this is a a
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  day where we came back where we're in.
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  It's like a holding pen. But then we ended up doing that.
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  We we ended up going back on the live final.
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  We were on the ITV 2 show in the studio doing that.
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  That is the Lifehouse Band, very similar to Folkfest.
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  So after you did that, you go. The only thing left to do is
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  Folkfest. Yeah, exactly.
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  Yeah, if that's probably where Harry saw us and was like.
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  Oh, I see, I see. And how?
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  OK, so between that, when was your next?
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  How did you get 8 out of 10? And yeah, it's probably a few
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  years down the line. OK, so you did lots of gigs?
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  We didn't really do that many gigs.
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  We basically there was. I thought I knew what you were
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  about. We we basically didn't.
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  Really do any gigs? It's never really gigged.
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  We just. Became famous.
• 23:28
  We usually do two or three gigs a year.
• 23:31
  Really. Generally, yeah.
• 23:33
  And that we always have. We're never really done more
• 23:35
  than that. But there was the tie at the
• 23:38
  stretch post Folch Fest and sort of eight out of 10 cats time.
• 23:46
  We were just doing YouTube videos and it was the time where
• 23:49
  you could earn money off. YouTube.
• 23:51
  That's your bread and butter. Yeah.
• 23:52
  So we were doing branded content and getting money off the ads
• 23:57
  and stuff. It was a a real glory days time
• 24:03
  and then that dropped off for whatever.
• 24:05
  Reason. Wait, what?
• 24:06
  What it dropped off? The the the algorithm, so I'm
• 24:09
  just. Getting into this, I'm getting
• 24:12
  in there at the wrong time. Well, no, this is you.
• 24:14
  Are you? Do you put this on YouTube?
• 24:15
  Yeah, yeah. Well, I think it's back up
• 24:17
  again. I think it's.
• 24:18
  Oh, OK. I think we're back on.
• 24:19
  Can you stay there? But they basically changed.
• 24:25
  I don't know what they changed, but the algorithm.
• 24:27
  The algorithm probably so that we weren't earning as much
• 24:31
  money, I don't know. It was, I can't really remember
• 24:35
  the what happened, but we basically we stopped doing as
• 24:38
  much. And what?
• 24:39
  What were your numbers? What are your numbers now?
• 24:42
  On YouTube, yeah, I think it was it was the 200,000 mark, which
• 24:47
  is excellent. Why I thought when this when
• 24:50
  this this social media expert, I tried to.
• 24:54
  So that's the magic. Now we need to be at 200,000.
• 24:57
  I was like, brilliant. No, it's Snapchat.
• 25:00
  Yeah, it's not. It's not YouTube anymore.
• 25:02
  It's Instagram. No, it's twitch.
• 25:04
  You need 200K on twitch. Exactly.
• 25:08
  But like I say, by the time you've built 200,000 people on
• 25:13
  Instagram, how do you know it's not going to be some other
• 25:15
  platform? So you're kind of like you're
• 25:18
  more of a studio guy. You like to play around, do the
• 25:23
  do you do the filming of it as well?
• 25:25
  Yeah, yeah. So it's.
• 25:28
  Do you edit? Yeah.
• 25:30
  Wow. So it's all much more
• 25:33
  comfortable just sort of doing the production and.
• 25:36
  How clear an idea do you have when you start filming?
• 25:39
  Do you need to know everything that you're going to do?
• 25:44
  Well, I do the all the music first, which makes sense, and
• 25:48
  then backtrack and yeah, you know, feel like the the most the
• 25:52
  recent videos I've been doing where I do, I pick an artist and
• 25:59
  try and recreate a song in the style of them.
• 26:02
  Which is. Brilliant.
• 26:03
  Thank you. So.
• 26:04
  What was the first artist you did?
• 26:07
  That recently it was Sabrina Carpenter.
• 26:11
  Nice. Think Yes, you're a fan.
• 26:14
  What is her style? How would?
• 26:17
  You distil it. It's sort of the pop but but
• 26:23
  with slightly crunched country aspects.
• 26:26
  I guess country pops. It's, I mean it varies from song
• 26:31
  to song really. It's quite hard to pinpoint.
• 26:33
  And like, what was I? I would say at this point I go
• 26:38
  take it away, right? Yeah, but watch it on his.
• 26:43
  Yeah, just. Video.
• 26:45
  But is it kind of like I'm not as familiar with Sabrina?
• 26:51
  My kids play her. Yeah.
• 26:54
  And I tell them to stop talking and turn things down.
• 26:59
  Yeah. No, but she she does a lot of
• 27:03
  ex-boyfriend stuff. Or that's more Taylor.
• 27:07
  Yeah, it's a bit of that. There's quite a lot of, you
• 27:10
  know, sexual innuendos and sort of a bit cheeky.
• 27:14
  Because it seems like you need to have bad relationships in
• 27:19
  order to get hit songs. Exactly.
• 27:21
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or make or make them up.
• 27:25
  So there's Sabrina Carpenter. One I did was called Fanny Pack.
• 27:32
  Nice. I forget.
• 27:34
  Which in the US is not that bad. Well, exactly.
• 27:36
  Yeah. That's why I thought.
• 27:38
  I thought she's American. Yeah.
• 27:40
  Yeah. Is she American?
• 27:41
  Yes. Yeah.
• 27:44
  So I thought, yeah, let's think of a something American right
• 27:48
  Fanny pack that we don't have here in the.
• 27:50
  Fanny pack. Perfect.
• 27:52
  But it then it covers the sort of sexual innuendo angle as
• 27:55
  well. So yeah, stuff like that.
• 27:58
  I'll, I'll do the song. That was the first one you did.
• 28:02
  But then you do the backtrack and then write Mahalia.
• 28:07
  Jacks. As if you've like, as if you've
• 28:11
  filmed the intro before you started writing it.
• 28:13
  Essentially so. And has has anybody been because
• 28:18
  you've done Lady Gaga? Taylor Swift.
• 28:22
  Not done, Taylor Swift. You haven't done Taylor Swift.
• 28:25
  No, I haven't because I should take.
• 28:27
  Will you piss off people when you do it?
• 28:29
  Do people ever respond like how dare?
• 28:32
  You. Nobody's responded, but it's
• 28:35
  all, it's all quite affectionate.
• 28:39
  You know, it comes from a I'm not.
• 28:40
  This is, I don't know if you saw I did an Oasis.
• 28:44
  Yes, yes, I saw. That and yeah, Oasis fans are
• 28:50
  not happy. They're like very angry people,
• 28:55
  you know, and angry. People got a lot of anger.
• 28:57
  Yeah, but they, like they've completely miss misunderstood
• 29:02
  the tone of it. It was out of love.
• 29:04
  Yeah, yeah, like, like I have a big Oasis fan and I thought I'd
• 29:08
  try and write a song that's in that style and sort of analyse
• 29:13
  some of the Oasis songs. Oh.
• 29:15
  Yeah, it starts out with a similar chord progression.
• 29:18
  Yeah, and like I've noticed that there's about 8 or 9 Oasis songs
• 29:23
  that start. The melody starts with the exact
• 29:25
  same 2 notes. Yeah, that's just science, which
• 29:27
  is crazy. Yeah, but people, I think, I
• 29:30
  think a lot of Oasis fans thought I was sort of saying
• 29:33
  like. But they're simple.
• 29:35
  They're simple, right? Yeah, it's not as easy as that,
• 29:38
  mate. Very, very of course.
• 29:40
  Not there are other notes after those. 2 notes.
• 29:43
  It's an observation. What about blur?
• 29:46
  Did you do blur? No, no, I, I, that's nice.
• 29:50
  He sort of put me off going down the the the brick pot.
• 29:53
  Man, yeah. Yeah, see, I thought I'd have
• 29:56
  that reaction with the Lady Gaga one.
• 29:59
  I thought her fans would be a bit.
• 30:00
  Got some big? Fans, yeah.
• 30:02
  And I thought they'd have a similar reaction, but they were
• 30:05
  actually very pleasant, OK. Loved it, that's good to know.
• 30:08
  So maybe I'll stick with the with the pop.
• 30:11
  I've got a Christmas 1 coming up.
• 30:14
  It's in the style of Bruce Springsteen.
• 30:17
  So that's might be out by the. Time.
• 30:21
  This movie's out now. Yeah, he's very pop.
• 30:24
  Did you do a Bob Dylan one? No, no, it's hard to.
• 30:29
  It's hard with the voices. I never know how to.
• 30:34
  Oh, just if you want to do the Bob Dylan voice, just like step
• 30:39
  on a cat and then use that kind of squeal.
• 30:44
  To. I'm just kidding, Bob Dylan
• 30:48
  fans. You rail the fans.
• 30:50
  Yeah, but, well, that's really good.
• 30:55
  So yeah, I've got I've found some session vocalists to to
• 30:59
  sing, like Bruce Springsteen. So you're at the point now where
• 31:04
  you can hire people. Yeah, well, just on Fiver.
• 31:09
  Yeah, yeah. But yeah, pretty big time,
• 31:12
  pretty big time. Well done you, well done you.
• 31:15
  And what about have you done any mash ups where you mash 2 songs
• 31:20
  together? Do you like doing that?
• 31:24
  I did a again an Oasis. I mashed up the to.
• 31:29
  Stay away from. Oasis, I can't remember what it
• 31:32
  was, cigarettes and alcohol and the the theme tune from Only
• 31:36
  Fools and Horses. Oh, nothing.
• 31:38
  Which works incredibly well, really.
• 31:41
  Yeah. And then normally I would say
• 31:43
  take it away and then. Pause the.
• 31:48
  Just watch the video and then come back.
• 31:50
  Instagram, Yeah. But it does work surprisingly
• 31:52
  well. It came to me in a dream, that
• 31:53
  one I actually I dreamt it and woke up and thought, you know
• 31:58
  what? That works.
• 32:00
  You got to go for it. Yeah, well, that's the beauty of
• 32:03
  doing YouTube stuff is you can just play around with stuff and
• 32:06
  if it doesn't work, are there ever any things that you started
• 32:12
  and you go, oh, this is. Crap.
• 32:14
  No. I tend to post everything but I
• 32:17
  do even if it is crap, just because again, you've got to put
• 32:20
  that content out. You got to put it out.
• 32:22
  Yeah, it's a nightmare. It's Thursday.
• 32:25
  We're losing daylight, people. Exactly, I've read all the all
• 32:31
  the things it says TikTok even if you've even if your video
• 32:35
  does terrible TikTok. TikTok TikTok.
• 32:40
  You've got to keep up there. That fast.
• 32:42
  You've got to post everyday. Release a video Release a video.
• 32:46
  Yeah, that's what we need. I think that the best way to do
• 32:50
  it, this is what I'm thinking, is you hold yourself up for a
• 32:55
  year, yeah, and make a year's worth of content.
• 32:59
  Yeah, have it ready to go. And then you have it all stored
• 33:02
  up. Yeah.
• 33:03
  And then you take a holiday, right?
• 33:06
  Schedule it. Yeah, schedule it all, but.
• 33:08
  What are you doing in that year? What happens in that year that
• 33:11
  you're you're creating all the content?
• 33:13
  You lose all, you get cancer, you get no, no, sorry, I didn't
• 33:16
  mean to say that. Why did I say that?
• 33:21
  No, but what I'm trying to say is you got to have a break from.
• 33:25
  This you got to have a break, but then in that break the
• 33:28
  algorithm forgets you. How do you have a break?
• 33:32
  I don't. I don't.
• 33:33
  I are you the kind of guy that likes to keep busy like.
• 33:36
  Yeah, if I'm on holiday, I'll be writing songs like on the beach
• 33:40
  on the phone. Really.
• 33:41
  Because you're always thinking of stuff.
• 33:44
  Just I get bored on the beach. A cocktail.
• 33:48
  Umbrella drinks. Umbrella drinks.
• 33:50
  Yeah, write it down. Yeah, on The Voice note, So.
• 33:54
  Is that how you write things? Is the voice.
• 33:57
  Not Yeah, well, melodies. I've got an endless sort of
• 34:03
  voice note. I've done that in the car.
• 34:06
  Yeah, yeah. But then I never listened to it.
• 34:09
  Again. Well, with melodies.
• 34:10
  Melodies. Yes, you're right.
• 34:12
  I didn't know you were. Right.
• 34:12
  Sometimes I get them and then I think, why is this in my head so
• 34:17
  much? I've got to sing it, yeah.
• 34:18
  Yeah. And then sometimes you're like,
• 34:20
  what is that? Yeah.
• 34:21
  And you realise that it it isn't a thing and you've written it.
• 34:25
  I might come up to Sheffield and go.
• 34:28
  I've got to do this song. Yeah, yeah, do it.
• 34:30
  Or at least just send me your voice notes.
• 34:33
  And do you get do people ever write to you and say, hey, I
• 34:37
  loved your thing? What you mean?
• 34:43
  Your song or the artist like this?
• 34:46
  Lady she right ever. No, no, no, no, no, not had that
• 34:49
  yet. Yet.
• 34:51
  But you never know. But I also, I just, with those
• 34:57
  ones, I feel bad because the voice is so similar to the like
• 35:03
  Lady Gaga, Sabrina Carpenter. I feel like this.
• 35:06
  It's slightly weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:09
  I've sort of feel like I've stolen their sort of identity,
• 35:12
  really. You know, you've just revealed
• 35:16
  what they're like. Potential.
• 35:18
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, what's the next step
• 35:21
  for you? What?
• 35:22
  What exactly I mean? Is it just more of the same?
• 35:25
  Just more of the same. Yeah, I just keep churning it
• 35:27
  out. Would you ever like to do a like
• 35:30
  flight of the Conchords type thing?
• 35:32
  Oh yeah, I mean, I've been bless you.
• 35:35
  I've been trying to trying to do something like that for for
• 35:38
  years but. Because you guys are a
• 35:40
  personality. If they've you've ever seen
• 35:42
  them, they're you. You're hilarious.
• 35:44
  Thank you. And I would like to know more
• 35:48
  about your lives. Yeah.
• 35:50
  Do you live with your mom? You know, do they do they go out
• 35:56
  and kick homeless people? Yeah.
• 35:59
  Like what do they like? Exactly.
• 36:01
  It's all up for grabs, isn't it? Yeah, but T VS Dad isn't it?
• 36:07
  So it. Is kind of, isn't it?
• 36:10
  She's a shame. But there are TV shows out
• 36:13
  there. They're still on, aren't they?
• 36:15
  You've got to do a showcase for like all the streamers.
• 36:20
  That's we. Invite the streamers, yeah.
• 36:24
  Yeah. Do you know, I was thinking the
• 36:25
  other day that I I realised that you were a part of.
• 36:29
  It's one of my favourite things. Always what?
• 36:32
  You were I was thinking about a was it ADBC?
• 36:38
  Oh yes, it's one of my favourite.
• 36:40
  And what is that? What was that for?
• 36:43
  It was just. Like that wasn't for anything?
• 36:46
  I don't think so. Because it must have been on
• 36:48
  telly. Because it was Matt Berry and
• 36:51
  Richard Ayawadi directed it, Yeah.
• 36:54
  And I played Baker Oregon something.
• 36:56
  Yeah. I was only in it for like 4
• 36:58
  seconds. But I so many people have come
• 37:03
  up to me afterwards, did they? And talked about it like, Oh my
• 37:07
  God, yeah. But it's just, it was a labour
• 37:10
  of love. Yeah.
• 37:11
  And if you do stuff like that, I mean, granted, I, I don't know
• 37:17
  how many people watched it, but. But that's what I mean, I think.
• 37:20
  I feel like. Amazing.
• 37:21
  Yeah, because it was BBC, wasn't it?
• 37:23
  Yeah. Yeah, BBC Three was it right?
• 37:26
  Yeah, when it that. Was the day.
• 37:28
  When you could. Yeah.
• 37:30
  Yeah, when? You had something crazy.
• 37:32
  Oh, BBC Three. Yeah, I just feel like there's
• 37:35
  no space for that kind of thing. Well, now it's the Internet.
• 37:40
  Yeah, but then no, no one gives you the money to to make.
• 37:44
  It but they should though, if you get enough viewers because
• 37:48
  from what my understanding is you, you, I don't know how they
• 37:53
  do ratings here, but when you watch a show, you're not
• 37:57
  guaranteed that person's going to stay with that show.
• 37:59
  They probably go. Whereas if you go on a podcast
• 38:03
  like mine, you're kind of guaranteed they're going to stay
• 38:08
  on. For a certain amount of time
• 38:10
  because they've searched out. So those clicks mean more yeah
• 38:14
  than viewership ratings. Yeah.
• 38:16
  And I, I still don't think people get that yet.
• 38:19
  Like studio execs, suits, yeah, if you will.
• 38:25
  They just don't get you, man. They don't get you.
• 38:29
  I. Know.
• 38:30
  You're over here. They're down here.
• 38:33
  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, I've been saying it for.
• 38:36
  For years. But where?
• 38:38
  How? What do you do about it?
• 38:39
  What you meant to do? Well, I think what you do is
• 38:42
  you've got to bridge that gap. Yeah.
• 38:45
  Invite them over for coffee. OK, the.
• 38:47
  Pizza. The suits, yeah, OK.
• 38:50
  I mean, I, I think they're just like us, only they don't know
• 38:56
  anything. No, no, they're just like us.
• 39:01
  But they here's The thing is entertainers and creatives, they
• 39:07
  have their own bubble. They hang out with other
• 39:09
  creatives and these guys, they hang out with their non
• 39:15
  creatives. Skyscrapers, yes.
• 39:17
  Yeah. They socialise.
• 39:19
  I think the two need to get together.
• 39:22
  Yeah, maybe swap roles for. A week?
• 39:24
  Exactly. A good a good show good TV show
• 39:28
  pinch. You're already thinking of.
• 39:31
  Stuff. Yeah, you just need to get these
• 39:33
  ideas down and. Yeah, well, get your phone out
• 39:37
  now. Normally I I do this a little
• 39:39
  later in the show, but there's a segment.
• 39:42
  I don't know if you've seen this.
• 39:44
  Oh, is it the? It's called fill in the blank,
• 39:47
  yeah. Now it gives me palpitations
• 39:49
  this. No, no, because you just think
• 39:52
  whatever comes into your head, OK.
• 39:53
  That's like therapy isn't? It yeah, in a way I've tailored
• 39:57
  it just to you as well. Yeah.
• 40:00
  OK. So this is there are 5
• 40:02
  questions. Five, OK.
• 40:04
  First question, Yeah. You ready?
• 40:06
  I'm ready. Do you want a drink first?
• 40:08
  Yeah. Number one, OK, it's late at
• 40:11
  night. Yeah, I want some cheese.
• 40:14
  OK, I usually get blank. It's late at night, I want some
• 40:19
  cheese. I usually get.
• 40:23
  Well, I mean, it depends what's in the fridge.
• 40:27
  I like a So we're going. To leave it at that, OK.
• 40:32
  I like a Bree. A Bree.
• 40:34
  Yeah. Yeah, Breeze, Easy to eat, isn't
• 40:37
  it? You ever had Baron?
• 40:39
  By God, no. It's like a British Bree.
• 40:43
  Really good. I know where it's from.
• 40:44
  My God, my. God, it's good.
• 40:47
  OK, try it. Remember that they could be a
• 40:50
  sponsor because we mentioned it on the show.
• 40:53
  Come on, Pony Up Blank is my musical hero.
• 41:01
  Prince. Prince.
• 41:03
  Yeah. Oh, Prince.
• 41:07
  And he's a the. Artist formerly.
• 41:08
  Formerly known as because he died.
• 41:11
  Because he died. Are you a Prince fan?
• 41:14
  Yeah, I love Prince. I thought you were going to say
• 41:18
  now this might be just me because.
• 41:21
  Because you're not just comedic, but Weird Al Yankee.
• 41:25
  Oh yeah, yeah. Did you grow up listening to
• 41:28
  him? I.
• 41:28
  Really didn't know. I did.
• 41:31
  I feel like he was maybe bigger in the states than.
• 41:33
  Yeah. And it was part of this.
• 41:35
  It was part and parcel of the MTV generation.
• 41:40
  Yeah, you know, because there were always people would watch
• 41:43
  the videos, Yeah. And his were so, you know,
• 41:48
  cutting edge. He's doing a big tour, isn't he?
• 41:50
  Yeah, yeah. Greatest Hits tour.
• 41:53
  I've seen him out here. Have you at the forum?
• 41:56
  I think, yeah. At the forum?
• 41:58
  Isn't that quite a small? Is it small?
• 42:01
  I don't know. Well, I think maybe it's got
• 42:03
  bigger venues, yeah. You.
• 42:06
  Should see him. Yeah, I'd like to if he.
• 42:08
  Brings down. I bet he's seen you.
• 42:10
  He's a in lockdown I started. I'll introduce you to him.
• 42:16
  Do you know him? I I actually have interviewed
• 42:20
  him for a book that I started writing in lockdown that I
• 42:22
  abandoned very, very, very quickly.
• 42:25
  Oh, don't Abandoned. Started writing a book on
• 42:29
  songwriting. Turn out it's quite a It's quite
• 42:32
  tricky writing a book. But he's a big fan of comedy.
• 42:36
  I'm sure he'll love you. Yeah.
• 42:37
  Yeah, I, it'd be I, it'd be great to support him on that
• 42:40
  arena tour if he, if he comes over.
• 42:44
  I often blank when I want to relax.
• 42:48
  OK, listen to jazz. Nice, we've.
• 42:55
  Got quite what kind? Of jazz like smooth.
• 42:57
  Yeah, like Bill Evans, sort of. Lots of piano, nothing with
• 43:02
  trumpets. Oscar Peterson.
• 43:05
  Yeah, yeah. What about Spirogyra?
• 43:08
  Spirogyra. Yeah, well, I don't know what is
• 43:11
  Spirogyra. Weather Report.
• 43:13
  Weather report, Yeah, I actually love weather report.
• 43:16
  Yeah, but I don't put it on to relax.
• 43:17
  So it's quite stressful, isn't? It OK relaxing.
• 43:21
  Kenny G Kenny G No. No, nothing with nothing with a
• 43:25
  horn. Find it.
• 43:27
  It's abrasive. Abrasive.
• 43:29
  Yeah, always slightly too loud in the mix, I find.
• 43:32
  My son plays the clarinet. Does he?
• 43:35
  How old's his son? What?
• 43:38
  How old is his son? Oh, 13.
• 43:40
  That's crazy that last time, last time I saw you, you didn't
• 43:43
  have any children. I know that shows you now you
• 43:46
  have a teenager. When I when I left, I go, I
• 43:49
  can't see you anymore. I'm going to have a kid now.
• 43:54
  That's kind of my mindset, yeah. I'll break out this dance move
• 43:59
  if I have to. It's blank.
• 44:03
  I'll break out this dance move if I have to.
• 44:05
  So what was the cheese 1? You said you tailored these all.
• 44:12
  I just thought maybe you get home from a gig and it's late
• 44:16
  at. Night.
• 44:16
  Yeah, Yeah. Crack and I assumed you like
• 44:18
  cheese. Yeah, I knew you were right to
• 44:20
  assume. So I'm assuming you're on the
• 44:22
  dance floor. Yeah.
• 44:23
  And maybe some moves aren't working, but you have a go to
• 44:28
  move that you go. I'm going to do this move.
• 44:31
  I don't. I'm not a big dancer.
• 44:33
  I do a lot with. This is a good one.
• 44:35
  Yeah, I do a lot of that bit of that.
• 44:39
  Oh yeah, yeah. I like that.
• 44:42
  I mainly do air base. OK, that's that's my sort of go
• 44:46
  to. That's not bad.
• 44:48
  Yeah, when move your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 44:51
  Just a bit of that just in the corner, just really get into it.
• 44:55
  We'll make it super big. Or make it like a double bass
• 44:58
  bit on its side. Yeah.
• 45:00
  So that's probably my go to. OK, yeah.
• 45:03
  What's yours? What's mine?
• 45:06
  I'll do the, you know, kick my legs out and just do a big.
• 45:14
  Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 45:16
  You're seated. I do that.
• 45:18
  If I really want attention, I'll do this.
• 45:20
  I used to be able to do the splits and then do a little
• 45:24
  break move where I'm moving all over the place.
• 45:26
  OK, I I mean I haven't tried it in a while.
• 45:31
  No, I thought you were going to get up.
• 45:33
  It's too small here. Yeah.
• 45:34
  I love blank. Wow, that's.
• 45:40
  It's a broad one. Yeah, I love my cat.
• 45:48
  OK, Susan. Actually, no, I don't.
• 45:50
  I take that lazy. Susan.
• 45:53
  She's really annoying actually. I take that back.
• 45:56
  OK, she's got a high thyroid problem at the minute.
• 45:59
  She's waking me up every three hours I've not slept for.
• 46:01
  Thyroid, Yeah. Does she take medication?
• 46:06
  Well, she does, but that she then throws it back up.
• 46:09
  So it's a it's a problem. Now, if you were to talk to your
• 46:16
  younger self and give yourself advice, what would you say?
• 46:20
  I would say how, how young are we talking, Maybe.
• 46:25
  College age. College age, I'd say just just
• 46:30
  keep keep your head down. Yeah, you're going to full trust
• 46:34
  is a matter of years away. Just just head down.
• 46:39
  It will happen. It's going to happen.
• 46:41
  It's going to happen. Yeah.
• 46:42
  Yeah. Do people ever come up to you
• 46:44
  for advice? No.
• 46:46
  They should. Shouldn't they?
• 46:47
  Yeah, weirdly not. No.
• 46:54
  And that's the end of the podcast.
• 46:56
  That's it. Thank you.
• 46:58
  No, I mean, I would think you've been through a lot of stuff and
• 47:03
  there's tricky stuff, yeah. What do you mean?
• 47:06
  But I'm here's what I'm thinking is like a lot of people are.
• 47:10
  It's immediate gratification these days.
• 47:14
  You think I do a video if it doesn't go viral, it wasn't
• 47:18
  meant to be. Yeah.
• 47:19
  I'm going to go to optometry school, right?
• 47:23
  Yeah, but you got to put in the time.
• 47:27
  Yeah. But that's true with everything.
• 47:30
  You don't understand that, but you just do it.
• 47:33
  And that's why if you love something, you'll do it anyway.
• 47:38
  Yeah. And then the fruits will show
• 47:41
  themselves later. Yeah.
• 47:44
  What was the question? I don't know.
• 47:49
  But you're right, yeah, and it helps.
• 47:52
  It helps not having work A. Girlfriend No.
• 47:56
  It helps you know what it's like.
• 48:00
  Sometimes you'll be really busy with stuff, sometimes you'll
• 48:02
  have long stretches of time where no work.
• 48:04
  Time is. So important.
• 48:06
  So yeah, it's lucky to have that, even though, you know, it
• 48:11
  doesn't feel like you're lucky in that minute where you you've
• 48:13
  got no money, but. You don't have kids, do you?
• 48:15
  No. See.
• 48:16
  So you've got time. So yeah, it's like it's a
• 48:19
  luxury. Take advantage of it.
• 48:21
  Yeah, take advantage. So yeah, you got to, you got to
• 48:27
  keep doing that content, as I keep saying, yeah, just got to
• 48:29
  churn it out. So what is next for you gig
• 48:33
  wise? Is there anything you want to
• 48:35
  plug or? Unplug.
• 48:38
  Well, not really. I'd like to do where I haven't
• 48:42
  got anything in the diary, but I'm hoping to do some live stuff
• 48:47
  in the new year. Yeah, Spring.
• 48:48
  OK, everybody stay tuned for live stuff.
• 48:54
  I guess you can look up live stuff.
• 48:56
  Maybe I'll say some dates and then just hope I can find a
• 49:02
  venue before this goes out. And where is the best place to
• 49:07
  to find you? You recommend Instagram?
• 49:10
  Instagram and TikTok. Real Brett Dom.
• 49:13
  That's where it's at. On TikTok as well.
• 49:15
  Real. Brett Dom yeah, I think it's the
• 49:16
  same. Wow and the TikTok is a Chinese
• 49:21
  company? So I believe.
• 49:23
  Yeah. I mean, I don't know why I said
• 49:25
  that. No, because there wasn't there a
• 49:30
  debate about whether there would be AUS.
• 49:33
  Or oh, they were going to ban it, wouldn't they?
• 49:35
  Yeah, yeah, Epic team. They didn't.
• 49:37
  So I'm they haven't yet so keep on TikTok.
• 49:42
  While you can. IG yeah, yeah, it's going.
• 49:46
  That's where that's where it's at.
• 49:48
  Put me up too, I'm on IG as well as Sam.
• 49:52
  No I mean it's all good. Rising Tide races all ships.
• 49:59
  Yeah, yeah, and YouTube still, still chugging on in it.
• 50:03
  Oh yeah, yeah, YouTube. Who can forget YouTube?
• 50:07
  Well, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
• 50:09
  I mean to to think about it too, these things only started like
• 50:16
  like 2000 and five, 2006. First YouTube video I posted.
• 50:21
  YouTube. It only existed for two years.
• 50:24
  She's mad why he did so well because there's no competition.
• 50:28
  And Mr Beast was saying when I was listening to him, Yeah, they
• 50:34
  just were doing it without they they didn't have a partnership
• 50:38
  programme or anything. They were just doing it.
• 50:44
  Hi, Mr Beast. He's just clicked in from North
• 50:48
  Carolina. Hi, Mr Beast, How are you?
• 50:51
  We were just talking about you. Yeah, anyway, listen in.
• 50:57
  And so he said that he was just just doing it for the love of.
• 51:07
  Him, so he wasn't earning any money in those early days.
• 51:11
  And that shows you how when you do something you love.
• 51:15
  Yeah. The rest will follow.
• 51:17
  But how was he? Did he have a job?
• 51:20
  Like, how was he? How was he doing that?
• 51:22
  I don't know. Living like just.
• 51:24
  I think what happened was he did get a little bit of help.
• 51:30
  He lived at home, yeah. And he had some sort of deal
• 51:33
  with his parents, like if I don't make it in a year, start
• 51:38
  making money, right? And then he within that time
• 51:42
  frame, he did a viral that got some money.
• 51:45
  He gone done a viral. He did a viral.
• 51:48
  He spread a virus. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:50
  So he was. He was sort of, yeah.
• 51:53
  But it was like a full time. He was working on it, yeah.
• 51:59
  And now is he worth? He's worth at least at least
• 52:05
  250. Dollars, Christ.
• 52:10
  So it's paid off. No, he's a, he's a billionaire
• 52:14
  now, isn't he? He's worth 100.
• 52:17
  Million, 100 million. Just 100 million, That's it.
• 52:23
  Well, he puts his network. He he's one of those guys that
• 52:27
  puts everything back into the business.
• 52:29
  Oh yeah, he does. And.
• 52:30
  He probably sleeps where he works.
• 52:33
  Yeah. And he urinates on himself all
• 52:36
  the time. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Pricey pain it. And so, I mean, he's one of
• 52:41
  those guys that's totally devoted, Yeah.
• 52:44
  So he's probably worth a lot more, like he's got Mr B stock
• 52:50
  and so if he ever wanted to cash in, he'd probably make a lot
• 52:55
  more. That's what I'm thinking, yeah.
• 52:59
  Yeah. But listen, we're not here to
• 53:02
  talk about it. Sorry.
• 53:05
  We're here to talk about you. Any other last minute plugs or?
• 53:09
  Only the Christmas song. You're going to release a
• 53:12
  Christmas song? Yeah, it's probably it's coming
• 53:15
  up do. This every year.
• 53:18
  No, I've done a few. What's the name of that?
• 53:22
  It's called Santa. Tell me, will you still visit me
• 53:28
  even if I have an ornamental fireplace?
• 53:32
  I think it's the full title. That's great.
• 53:34
  But it's in the style of Bruce Springsteen, as I say.
• 53:37
  They're using the word ornamental.
• 53:39
  Is that racist? Not in the context that I use
• 53:45
  it, I don't, I don't think, but. Fine, I'll let you do it.
• 53:49
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