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Radio Legend Chris Demm Calls Into Hoppe Hour With Ryan Hoppe · Hoppe Radio (Hoppe Hour) With Ryan Hoppe

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What's up? This is Hoppy Hour. I am your host,
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Ryan Hoppy. And I'm so excited about this guest
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right here. I'm going to not kiss any ass, but
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this guy, I listened to him for about 25 years.
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My nana and her boyfriend would have it on whenever
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I would visit Winston -Salem. Because my mom
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and dad, we grew up in Chicago, but we would
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visit North Carolina twice a year. And he's become
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a friend, and he's one of the classiest guys
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ever in radio. And right now, he's on Hoppy Hour.
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What's up, Chris Demm of the Two Guys Aiming
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Crew Show? Brian, thank you for having me, man.
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It's good to be back. Good to talk with you again.
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So, I see your wife's updates. I see your updates
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on Instagram. How has retirement been? Honestly,
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it's been great. There's no way to sugarcoat
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it. I mean, it has been... Fantastic. It was
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tough to walk away, as you mentioned, from the
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radio show I did with Chris Kelly for 27 years.
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A total of 43 years in the business. But once
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I kind of made up my mind and looked at the old
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guy in the mirror staring back at me, I thought,
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you know, it is the right decision. And I was
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very fortunate. To have the job I did and fortunate
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to walk away on my own terms. Not many people,
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you know, I said on the show, you probably heard
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it, that not many people in the radio industry
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get a chance to do that. I'm very lucky, very
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lucky. Yeah, because there's guys like, and they're
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legends, and I'm fans of them, but there's guys
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like Stern and Imus, and Imus was on until he
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was almost 80 and then died like a year later.
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And then Stern's still on, but kind of falling
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from grace, losing one of his channels. So to
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me, I think what was so beautiful about your
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moment was, even if... You weren't like ready.
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It all seems like it was meant to be where like
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when you were listening to I am a sign off 10
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years ago, it kind of felt like he didn't want
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to go. There was something really beautiful about
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that day. I was actually going to International
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Mall to add in Tampa to be interviewed by a friend
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and I was listening. And it was just it was I
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just have it photographically. I was sitting
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in the parking lot and I was actually late for
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the interview because you were doing your sign
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off. And I was like, I don't trust my God. I
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don't trust the app is going to keep working
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in the mall. And it was just I just think the
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thing that worked so well for you is how well
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it went. and the fact that it still feels like
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you left with a lot of time left. It felt like
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you could have done another 10 years. I don't
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know. Well, I appreciate you saying that. To
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kind of touch, go back, and you mentioned Howard
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Stern, you mentioned Don Imus. Clearly, everyone's
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situation is different. Everyone's place in life
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is different. This is not... really a radio analogy,
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but I saw an article the other day about, online,
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it's about Paul McCartney, who is, what is he
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now? 80 -something? Yeah. Early 80s, I guess.
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And, you know, the headline of the article is
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basically, McCartney doesn't have to make music,
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he just wants to. And, you know, if you want
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to do something, and you have the means, and
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you have... He is 84. Okay, yeah. So, you know,
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if you have the means to do something and you
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still want to do it and you love it, go ahead.
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You know, my wife and I, we had, you know, different
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plans. She retired from her job to a couple of
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months before I did. And we had, you know, different
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visions of what we wanted to do in our. later
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chapters you know i don't want to say the fourth
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quarter yeah but uh you know we're not we're
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not getting any younger um and you know there
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are things that we wanted to do and places we
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wanted to see and so we were both very uh fortunate
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to be able to to to walk away like that now i
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know you pretty well but i don't know you well
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enough so i gotta ask With all the news coverage,
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like when you were signing off air and all the
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local news was there, did you like that? Or was
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there a part of you that wanted to go in, do
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the shifting and leave? Oh, wow. That's a good
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question, Ryan. You know, it didn't bother me.
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I was honored. I mean, you know, you know enough
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about the business to know that a lot of times
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when you're doing a radio show or a podcast.
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It's just you and a microphone. And you hope
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people are listening. You never know, but you
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hope they are. To see kind of a visible manifestation
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of that was, it was humbling. And everybody who
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worked at the company came by. The owner of the
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company, the general manager, they're not in
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the business, excuse me, they weren't in the
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office every day. So I got to see them, and they
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kind of sent me off with a nice flourish, handshake,
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pictures, bottle of wine. It was a beautiful
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day. It really was. A humbling and emotional
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all at the same time. I think there was something
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about how cool you kept the moment where I feel
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like it put people at ease. It's so hard to explain
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because I've listened to other radio sign offs
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and it just sounds like you kind of leave it
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like feeling even worse. And I was mad that the
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show was ending in the way that it was. I still
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listen to it, but I'm saying I was mad that you
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were leaving. But then the way you just kind
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of commanded the room and let everyone know that
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it was going to be OK, that there was going to
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be another show. I remember walking into the
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mall in Tampa being like, okay, this is... It
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was almost like a breath of fresh air. The way
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everything went was perfect. Wow. Well, I really...
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Clearly, you know more about the business than
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most, but even if you were just a quote -unquote
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ordinary fan, to hear you say that means the
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world to me because I really did... I tried to
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put some effort into my final remarks. You know,
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I wrote and rewrote and edited and rewrote again,
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you know, what I was hoping to say. And, you
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know, radio, it's a wonderful feeling. You know,
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a former colleague was mentioning something about,
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you know, there's another round of layoffs that
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I think at a radio station where he used to work
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in Baltimore. And, you know, he said, and very
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accurately, that... Most people don't get into
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radio for the money. They do it because they
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simply love it. And, you know, I try to convey
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that, that, you know, there were great people
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before me and there will be great people after
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me. So, you know, just to be a part of that continuum,
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how can I be anything but grateful? Yeah, we're
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dealing with budget cuts all the time in my company
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and companies in Tampa Bay. It's all the same
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companies that are dealing with it. But it is
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kind of weird. It is kind of weird when like...
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So for me over the years, I'm still employed
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in my job, so I'm grateful. But it's been funny
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over the years having like that one friend who's
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like maybe 20 years older than me that I can
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kind of lean on for advice or having the one
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dude that's like my age that we have kind of
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the same references in the break room getting
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coffee. And then they get laid off. And then
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it's almost like they died, but they didn't die.
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Cause you'll like, look at, for me, I'm very
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emotional. I'm a guy and I'll be walking down
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the hall and I'll look at the studio and I'll
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be like, Oh, that's where I used to talk to Kevin
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or I'll look at this guy's empty office. And
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I'll be like, Oh, that's where we used to talk
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about nineties cartoons. Like there's like a
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emotional, like it's really weird when someone
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gets let go at your job because it's like, you
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kind of keep moving and you have to kind of focus
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on being still. employed, but there's a little
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bit of a mourning when that email comes out and
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you're like, oh no. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
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One of the oldest cliches in the industry, the
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show must go on. There will be another show the
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next day. The people that I left behind, they're
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soldiering on. They're forging. their own identity.
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And that's just, you know, that's just a truism.
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And from the opposite point of view, you know,
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I truly miss that camaraderie. I love the four
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hours on the air every day. It was great. And,
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you know, and you can probably relate to this
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too, Ryan. The stuff he did during the commercial
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breaks, just the inter -office gossip, just hanging
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out and just caroling. Telling awful jokes or
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gossiping about coworkers. I mean, you know,
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you don't find that in retirement. You know,
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unless you have a true group of friends. But,
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you know, I still stay in touch with the people
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that were part of the Two Guys Named Chris show.
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But it's not the same. A text message every couple
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of days is not the same as just being in that
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room and in that environment. I will say, so
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I was at a radio station for seven years in Tampa
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and it was part of one of the biggest shows of
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the 2010s and it was cool. And I left to do my
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own thing and things are going well, but I still
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feel a little... I don't know if the word's left
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out. When I get recognized in public for my time
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at that show, people will be like, oh, do you
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listen? Or, oh, do you talk to them? Or, oh,
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do you hear what? And it's always funny. It's
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always the people in public are telling me what
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happened because I don't listen and I don't really
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want to listen because it's like listening to
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an old job. But it's so funny how when you're
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in the moment and you're at that show or at that
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job, you think either it's going to last forever
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or that even if you leave, you're going to still
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talk to the people. And unfortunately, it's just
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you kind of go your separate ways. So that's
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cool that you're still talking to them. I mean,
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I don't know. Radio is weird because it's like
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you're sort of talking to people every day. And
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then when it just like when it ends and you're
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out and about like at the DMV and people like,
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oh, it's very weird. It is. You know, it's yeah,
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it's there's no other job quite like it. You
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know, it's not like you've broken up with somebody.
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Yeah. At least under my circumstances. Yeah.
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But, you know, for the first couple of days after
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my last show, I didn't listen either. And I didn't
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want to. I mean, I listened to the very first
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show after just to make sure that they were going
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to kind of get off on the right foot. But I didn't
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make it a point to listen early because I knew
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that it would be. You know, it's a challenge
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to go forward. And, you know, Chris Kelly, as
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you know, you know, he's a radio lifer, too.
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He started doing radio when he was in his teens.
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And, you know, the two of us built something
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that we were pretty proud of. And it was hard
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to walk away from that. I mean, Survivor's Guilt
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is really overstating it. But, you know, I did
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feel that, you know, I kind of left him behind.
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You know, life just made us 10 years older. I'm
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10 years older than he is. And, you know, you
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talk about no one thinks about the end when you're
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starting your career. You're right. We never
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thought about how the show would come to an end.
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We certainly never thought we'd last 27 years.
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And now they're still going. It's kind of a weird
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comparison, but I'm going to go with it. kind
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of like i was dating this girl for maybe two
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or three years and this is such this really doesn't
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work that well with it but she was like nine
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years older than me and in the beginning when
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she was like 40 and i was 30 31 it was uh and
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i was 30 it was cool but then like you start
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to notice like I still want to go out and do
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things. She wants to go to bed at nine. And it's
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like, sometimes I feel like when there's like
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the age gap, I feel like sometimes it works in
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the beginning, but then it's still like, Oh,
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you are nine years older than me, but I don't
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know how that just thought of it. Yeah. I mean,
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that's true. You can each bring different experiences
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and, and world views to a relationship. You know,
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I think maybe that was part of what made Kelly
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and my chemistry good and work. You know, he's
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kind of younger. He was younger than I was and
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more emotional. I've not been as emotional. I
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don't know if that's just part of my genetic
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makeup. I really never have been. There were
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a lot of tears in the studio that day, but none
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of them were mine on the last day. You know,
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I mean, it was, you know, I truly felt it. I
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felt, you know, I felt the empathy from coming
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from everybody. But yeah, you know, after a while,
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you know, you realize, you know, maybe our wants
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and needs are not, we're not on the same page
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at the same time, like you and your older lady
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friend. Yeah. One thing I want to say, I've been
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thinking about, so I've always been fascinated
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by this and I've wanted to ask someone that like
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had a big retirement party and got to sign off.
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So for me, i try to and this is going to sound
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weird but i try to like emulate it every day
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where i write down what i have to do for the
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podcast what apps i need to post it on And then
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I write like a checklist. It's about 20 things
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of like, make sure everything's good on Facebook,
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make sure everything's good on Twitter. And then
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I think I like the idea of being done for the
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day. But then when I'm done with work by five
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or six, I do the checklist over again, psychotically,
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because there's like that void of what's next.
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Did you have that at all when you left the show
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where... You were like driving home and you're
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like, oh, just give me one more sign off. Or
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were you actually like, how was it like that
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drive home and just that first week when it was
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like, oh, this is over? It was an emotional ringer,
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you know, because it was a whole kind of week
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leading up to it or a couple of days. As you
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mentioned, some of the local TV stations spent
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a lot of time with us. And, you know, you're
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telling the same stories kind of. over and over
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again. And it's not their fault. Each organization
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would ask similar questions, and that's fine.
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I didn't mind telling the story. But it was kind
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of an emotional relief to be done. I didn't realize
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it at the time, just little things like how much...
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Answering emails every single day was part of
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my day. I don't have to answer emails every day.
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That I don't miss. I knew it was part of the
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job, but I don't miss that time spent. It's like
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meeting with clients, meeting with sales team,
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meetings with the promotions team. I enjoyed
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it. I knew when I signed up for the job, that
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was part of it. But the drive home, it was kind
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of surreal. Kelly and I stayed after. the show
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for a couple of hours. And, uh, we made it a
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point to say goodbye. We were the last people
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to leave. We left at the same time, which is
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pretty rare. And, uh, you know, we had kind of
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a, a private little moment, just the two of us
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in the parking lot. And, uh, that's nice. It
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meant a lot to me. He said some nice things.
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And I, hopefully I said, hopefully I said the
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right things because, um, you know, it's. you
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don't get a chance to do it again. You know,
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as to like going over your checklist over and
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over again, I don't know, that sounds a little
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more like ADD or whatever. Yeah, probably, yeah.
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I'm not sure. I'm just thinking like, because
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I've always had the idea that I want to do radio
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until I'm like 55 or 60, and then... If I'm doing
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well enough financially, just never do it again.
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And then I'm beginning to realize I'm probably
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going to be more like Steve Dahl where I'm doing
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the podcast at like 72 years old or some of the
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other older guys. I just don't see much. I feel
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like I think I want to not. I think I have this
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beautiful idea that's like dramatic, cinematic.
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Oh, and then Hoppy leaves podcasting and is never
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heard from again. And then I'm kind of like sitting
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at the side of my bed like, no, I want to do
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this. I think that's kind of what I've learned
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this year. I don't know. Because I'm fascinated
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by the idea of retirement because my uncle retired
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and my mom retired. I don't know. Probably with
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my ADHD, I think I need to do something. I think
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I like the idea of it, but... Listen, I get it.
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My wife's Uncle Frank told me, he was a Coast
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Guard veteran. He worked for the post office.
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He worked for the DMV in North Carolina for many
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years. And he told me, he said, take four to
17:44
six months and just do nothing. And he said,
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then you'll kind of figure out what it is you
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want to do, whether it's... volunteer, find a
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part -time job bagging groceries. It could be
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anything. Working at a local theater as an usher
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or something of that nature. That'd be kind of
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fun because you're meeting people, there's still
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some culture. You'd be good at that. I think
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that if I could give you some advice, if when
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you do decide to retire, don't rush the next
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step, whatever it is. Yeah, that makes sense.
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I have this thing where I think I want to just
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sit in my thoughts. I'm really hard on myself
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and dramatic, but I have this thing where today
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I have a lot I got to do today. I do a podcast
18:32
with my friend who has autism, so I'm pretty
18:35
much in charge of all the work for my podcast
18:37
and for that show. His name's Hammerin' Hank.
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He's a legend out from San Francisco. Yeah, he's
18:46
funny, man. And I do in my show that after this,
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I'm working on an event. So I think what it is,
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is especially on some days where I have a lot
18:53
going on, there's this weird feeling where I'll
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be. It's like there's this thing where it's the
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last checklist and it's done. And then I'm looking
19:03
at the computer and there's nothing there. And
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then I'm like, wow, it's over. It's like this
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weird. I've been going through it. I don't know
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what it is. It's like this weird feeling where
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I'm like, wow, it's over. And then because I
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always tell and I even talk to my friends about
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it. I always tell people like between. 10 30
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a .m to about 5 p .m i'm pretty energetic i'm
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pretty happy especially if the sun's out and
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then around 4 or 5 p .m i kind of start to go
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oh no it's like i have to go to bed soon i'm
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going to start it it's uh i don't know what it
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is it's just it's very it's very silly it's very
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dramatic i don't know what it is no i i mean
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it sounds like you're a little bit you know you're
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kind of self -aware about it um it doesn't sound
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like you're in any I don't think it doesn't sound
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like it's impacting your health. I hope you're
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not over it. It doesn't sound like you're overextending
19:55
yourself either. I mean, it truly sounds like
19:56
you're enjoying what you do. And I hope that
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at the end of the day, you feel some sense of
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fulfillment. Like I did a good job. I try to
20:03
do better tomorrow. I mean, that's really all
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you can do. Yeah. What do you call it? So where
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did you work before two guys named Chris? So
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if you were there for 26 years, what were the
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other 16 years like? Good question. You know,
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like a lot of people in radio, I kind of started
20:24
when I was, to me, I always thought I just got
20:29
started late. I didn't start working until I
20:31
was in college. I kind of had a checkered college
20:35
career. It took me six years to get out. And
20:38
my plan was to be a lawyer. And I was going to
20:43
put bad guys in jail when I was a little high
20:47
school graduate. That didn't work out, but I
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did work at a campus radio station in the first
20:53
college I attended in Virginia. And that kind
20:57
of was the, that was the spark. And it took me
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a while to kind of realize, hey, that's really
21:02
what I wanted to do. And so I worked at, my first
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radio station gig was an internship at a big
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band radio station in Petersburg, Virginia. It
21:17
was in a house. The studios were upstairs. The
21:22
sales floor was downstairs of the house. I mean,
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that's literal mom and pop stuff in the 1980s.
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And I played Benny Goodman. I played Tommy Dorsey.
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I played Nat King Cole. The FM program director
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heard me on the AM station and kind of poached
21:39
me. And so then I got on my first FM station.
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And this was in, I want to say 1984. He poached
21:48
me and I started playing country music. I started
21:50
playing the Judds and I started playing George
21:52
Strait. I started playing, I think when it was
21:57
a brand new release, How to Be an American by
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God Bless the USA by Lee Greenwood. We played
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it every hour on the hour on the 4th of July
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in 1984. From there, I got an internship at an
22:10
easy listening station in Richmond and I graduated
22:14
from the internship to part -time. And I worked
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basically every shift, morning, news, night,
22:19
overnights, middays, afternoons, and did it all.
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And moved to North Carolina, got a full -time
22:26
job working midnight to six. This is from 1987
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to 1989. And then I joined the big broadcasting,
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Rock 92, in 1989. And there I did seven to midnight.
22:43
And from there, I got to meet the morning team
22:45
and interact with them. There was a morning show
22:49
opening in 1991, and I became partners with Brad
22:53
Krantz, who taught me a lot of stuff. So I did
22:58
five years with Brad. They let him go, and then
23:00
I board -opped for the big show, John Boy and
23:04
Billy, for a couple years. Not very creatively
23:06
fulfilling, but I was still in the business.
23:09
Yeah, I feel that. And that's when I, you know,
23:12
by that time I had met Chris Kelly and the two
23:14
of us had kind of cooked up the idea of, hey,
23:15
wouldn't it be cool one day to do a show of our
23:17
own? And, you know, we were able to convince
23:20
management to give us a shot. And that was January
23:23
of 99. And lo and behold, the listeners were
23:27
good to us. And we stuck around. I think. That's
23:33
it in a nutshell. I loved every minute of radio.
23:36
I worked with some amazing people. I put on my
23:39
social media feed about a month ago my Mount
23:42
Rushmore of people who taught me in the biz.
23:44
But there are countless radio great people gave
23:48
me a break. Breaks. What time are you waking
23:52
up now? You know what? That has been... a surprisingly
23:59
easy transition. I stay up late. I watch baseball.
24:03
Yeah, nice. I watch all of the Stanley Cup. I
24:07
watch Olympic. I watch everything. You must have
24:10
loved that. I did. I get up at like 7 o 'clock
24:13
now like a normal person. It's crazy how easy
24:17
that has been to adapt to. Yeah, because you'll
24:20
hear other radio guys that left mornings, even
24:23
if they didn't retire, and they're like, oh,
24:25
yeah, I still get up at 4 and I go to the gym.
24:27
Yes. Yeah. No. I was able to transition. I don't
24:35
know how I made it, but it worked. Well, Chris,
24:38
I would love to have you on again maybe later
24:41
on in the year. In the year or the beginning
24:45
of next year to catch up? It's been a lot of
24:47
fun. You are just, again, let me just kiss your
24:52
ass a little bit. I've met a lot. I have morning
24:54
show boot camp and getting tours of radio stations.
24:56
I've met a lot of my heroes. I would say about
25:00
20 % of them are cool. The rest of them were
25:04
egomaniacs. And you and Chris Kelly, BJ Shea,
25:10
Brother Weeds, all these names at the Morning
25:12
Show Bootcamp have always been so great to me,
25:14
man. And I really appreciate, for example. Any
25:18
other narcissistic radio DJ, when me and you
25:22
were trying to come up with a time to do this
25:24
interview, they would have just left me on read
25:26
after the second date because we were texting
25:30
and we were trying to find a Saturday that would
25:32
work. And you graciously found time. And a lot
25:36
of other people would have been like, oh, get
25:37
back to me in two weeks. So I really appreciate
25:40
you always being the coolest guy in the room,
25:43
Chris. Well, listen, that means a lot. I appreciate
25:47
you saying that. I'm not sure I 100 % agree with
25:49
you, but to be mentioned in the same breath with
25:52
some of those guys you did makes me feel great.
25:55
I appreciate that. And, you know, you've always
25:58
been very easy to work with and easy to talk
26:02
with. I appreciate that. You know, I think most
26:05
podcasts, I don't give the time of day, but I'm
26:08
happy to talk with you. And I wish it was funnier.
26:10
I feel like I just kind of ramble. No, no, no.
26:12
That's what old people do. You don't need...
26:13
Old people just ramble and tell stories about
26:15
the old days. Yeah, I feel like this was similar
26:18
to, like, two guys named Chris were like... Because
26:21
to me, I just love conversation. At Twilight,
26:24
your show, Opie and Anthony, I can't stand...
26:27
And I think I even said it to you. I can't stand
26:29
the, like, planned out, fake laughter, fake...
26:34
I've always had like kind of a kinship and like
26:37
I've always related to like the rock shows, the
26:40
ones where everyone's kind of a misfit and everyone's
26:42
goofing off. And that was kind of what I was
26:44
going for. I've never I've never gotten along
26:47
with people that do that fake. Oh, my God, I
26:51
got cheated on. I'm like, come on, let's talk.
26:54
Yeah, we're doing it for a living. That doesn't
26:57
interest me either. I know there are people that
26:59
do it and people can make a living doing it.
27:01
That doesn't interest me, yeah. You know, our
27:04
show was as real as we could make it, given the
27:08
constraints of, you know, clearly showbiz, but,
27:10
you know, that, yeah, that type of stuff interests
27:14
me. Well, Chris Demm of the Two Guys Named Chris
27:17
show, thank you for calling in the Hoppy Hour.
27:20
This has been a lot of fun. Thank you, Chris.
27:22
Ryan, I wish you all the best, buddy. Thanks.
27:24
Talk to you again soon. All right. Bye, Chris.
27:28
And that was Chris Dem of the Two Guys Named
27:31
Chris show, as he called it in the Hoppy Hour.
27:33
Now, this is my second time interviewing Chris
27:36
Dem, and if you haven't heard my show, I have
27:39
two versions. I just woke up about 20 years ago,
27:41
so I'm kind of drowsy, but I usually do kind
27:45
of a hyper show where I speak my mind on celebrity
27:48
news and talk smack, and I also do interviews,
27:52
so check it out by searching H -O -P -P -E radio.
27:55
Mm -hmm. Hi, this is Chris Dam from the Two Guys
27:58
Named Chris Show, and you're listening to Hoppy
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