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O-Zone Podcast: Boselli, Lageman, Frangie · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, featuring Jaguars dot Com Senior
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  Speaker 1: writer John Oser and Jaguars Executive producer Dave de Candice.
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  Speaker 1: We are joined this week by the Jaguars broadcast team.
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  Speaker 1: It's Frank Frangie, Tony Pistelli, Jeff Logerman. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: for Jaguars fans, those guys need no introduction, so get
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  Speaker 1: right to it. Frank, first question for you, out of
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  Speaker 1: the box. I'm gonna ask Tony how he's feeling in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, but I want to know from you,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think or do we know the setup
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  Speaker 1: this year in terms of broadcasting these games? Yeah, I think,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we it's a work in progress John, and
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  Speaker 1: it's been fluid. We didn't even this morning, we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it. I think home games will be the way
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  Speaker 1: they've been. We're gonna problem spread out our booths a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more so we're socially distanced, but we'll be
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  Speaker 1: in our booth and it will be the three of
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  Speaker 1: us that it will be a producer and an engineer,
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  Speaker 1: Joe and coach, which we've always done. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think home games will look and feel any different from
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  Speaker 1: the way we do it. And hopefully the way people
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  Speaker 1: hear it, the road game we're gonna operate. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like out of this out of the stadium, John, we're
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  Speaker 1: probably gonna be in the network TV booths with this,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very big booth, which gives us again
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  Speaker 1: a chance to spread out a lot of television monitors.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of what the baseball guys are doing. They're
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  Speaker 1: all going either from their home stadium. I've talked to
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  Speaker 1: now twenty three of the thirty or the other thirty
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  Speaker 1: one UH teams that play by play guys, and I
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  Speaker 1: think most are going from home. Very few are traveling.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Gaydermer from Houston's gonna travel, gonna fly himself, Mike
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  Speaker 1: Keith might, but around the league, I think most are
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  Speaker 1: doing it remotely. So home will found the same, well,
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  Speaker 1: the hopefully all sound the same. Home will be the
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  Speaker 1: same for us, and we set it up the road
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  Speaker 1: will will still be in the stadium and the network
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  Speaker 1: booths spread out, but we'll be doing the games watching
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  Speaker 1: a monitor in doing them from home. And Jeff, I
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  Speaker 1: guess this is just the case where you you play
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  Speaker 1: the hand that's dealt in this situation. What else you
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? You know, it kind of is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And going all the way back when we first, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're kind of getting an understanding of how this this
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  Speaker 1: virus had impacted everybody. We were sitting there thinking to
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  Speaker 1: ourselves and I said this, I think in one of
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  Speaker 1: our radio broadcasts back in in April May, I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I'm in charge of football, I'm not taking any
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  Speaker 1: unnecessary personnel now on road trips. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 1: you just can't risk it. You gotta create the as
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  Speaker 1: tight of a bubble as you can for the players
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  Speaker 1: and the staff to be able to have the games
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  Speaker 1: go on. And why would you risk having Basselli on
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  Speaker 1: the airplane to give every everybody else a virus or
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  Speaker 1: me or Frank or Joe or coach. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: just unnecessary. I mean I've been tested, Yes, I've been
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  Speaker 1: tested multiple times. It's it's superpowers now that they were.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Everybody's trying to get an understanding
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  Speaker 1: of what the lands gape is gonna be. And because
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  Speaker 1: right now a lot of the questions that we have,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have the answers. You know what Tony is
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  Speaker 1: talking about. I mean unless he goes and gets tested
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  Speaker 1: and still has you know, proof of the anybodies in him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is he truly safe for out other people?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so all this stuff we're still
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  Speaker 1: finding out. But like you said, Johnny, it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. And you know, we're we're kind of just
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  Speaker 1: waiting on what we are being told what we can
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  Speaker 1: and can't do, and then we'll just adjust. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we can still have a great broadcast and and still
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  Speaker 1: entertain people with the radio call of the game, even
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  Speaker 1: if we're in Jacksonville. It's not gonna be as easy,
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  Speaker 1: but we're gonna do the best we can make it entertaining.
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  Speaker 1: And Tony think most people listening to know that you
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  Speaker 1: obviously went through this at the very beginning of all this,
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  Speaker 1: uh thoughts on you know, I guess the necessity of this.
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  Speaker 1: You're up close to it, so you understand exactly why
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  Speaker 1: all these things are in place. Oh yeah, A you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be smart. I mean, here's the good news. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: just right, we're still learning a lot, but we know
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  Speaker 1: so much more than we did back when I had it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, back when I had it, the fear was
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  Speaker 1: you get it, You're gonna die. And I mean even
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  Speaker 1: at the in the i c U at the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the best doctors in the country. You know
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  Speaker 1: that we're in polonologists. We're looking at me like we
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  Speaker 1: we don't really know where this is going to go
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  Speaker 1: and what this virus is gonna do it. We're much
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  Speaker 1: further along that better treatments now. I think we're getting
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  Speaker 1: close to a vaccine. UM. You look at the overall,
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  Speaker 1: it's still very infectious and people can get it. But
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the data, you know, people that
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  Speaker 1: are playing football, these professional football players at that age
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  Speaker 1: really super super super low risk of anything serious happening.
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  Speaker 1: It can't happen, but it's very low UM and so
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  Speaker 1: that's the good news. We know. More. With that said,
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  Speaker 1: you still have to be smart because from a competitive standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because if guys do get it, that means
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  Speaker 1: they can't play UM and so you have to be
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  Speaker 1: able to feel the team and have you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and go back to business of football. And then on
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  Speaker 1: the other side, you do have to worry about the
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  Speaker 1: health of these coach is. I mean, we've been around
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  Speaker 1: these coaches, some of them were older and some are
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  Speaker 1: the most healthy guys in the whole world. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: so you gotta be you gotta be careful, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: be smart, because that the last thing we want somebody
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  Speaker 1: who does has some underlying health issues and is an
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  Speaker 1: older individual. UM that's coach in the NFL to be
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  Speaker 1: exposed of the virus can get it because it could
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  Speaker 1: go really bad, really quickly, feels individuals. So I think
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  Speaker 1: the NFL has done a great job. I really do. UM.
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  Speaker 1: You know, pe persk go and I've talked about it
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  Speaker 1: on the Monday Night show for the Jaguars. UM that
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  Speaker 1: if you look back, you know, and of all the
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  Speaker 1: professional sports league the NFL had, it is the most
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  Speaker 1: difficult one to manage the number of players to contact,
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  Speaker 1: all those things that go on. UM Two, if you
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  Speaker 1: look at it, the way that the p A in
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  Speaker 1: the league handled it really well, I mean tough negotiations,
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  Speaker 1: big economic issues, testing safety, all those things. You compare
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  Speaker 1: that to what Baseball went through. I mean, these guys
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  Speaker 1: look like rock stars. And so I take my hat off,
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  Speaker 1: and then you look at what the owners have invested
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  Speaker 1: to making sure these players hand be state, you know,
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  Speaker 1: testing protocols, social distancing within the facilities, figuring out weight rooms,
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  Speaker 1: night all the logistics really going um to the utmost
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  Speaker 1: length of making sure we can play football. So I
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  Speaker 1: think the NFL has done a great job. Um. With
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  Speaker 1: that said, we have a lot of hills declimbs still
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  Speaker 1: because right now these teams are isolated. It's only them
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  Speaker 1: in camp. You know, I think you now expose it
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  Speaker 1: to more risk when you start traveling, going to other stadiums. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and then the whole I'll go back to the competitive landscape.
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  Speaker 1: You know, how do we handle if we have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of false positives like we did this past week
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  Speaker 1: with the lab in New Jersey the night before a game?
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  Speaker 1: You know, how does that work for a team? What
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  Speaker 1: do you do? So it's gonna be interesting. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: we get through it because, like Jeff said, it'll be
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  Speaker 1: fun to call games and watching football. I'll be sad
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  Speaker 1: that we're not there. I mean, one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: things about calling games, whether it's for the Jaguars on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night at Westwood One, it's getting on the field
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  Speaker 1: before the game, talking to players and coaches and getting inside.
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  Speaker 1: So we won't have that side of it, um, But well, still,
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  Speaker 1: I think we all to give some good inside of
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  Speaker 1: what's happening on the field. I want to go around
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  Speaker 1: the horn on this one, but I'll start with Frank
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  Speaker 1: because his the radio shows everybody knows, and he follows
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  Speaker 1: all sports, maybe a little more than the rest of us. Frank,
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  Speaker 1: don't you get the idea watching the other sports and
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  Speaker 1: watching the NFL. I have such a much better feeling
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  Speaker 1: that they're gonna pull this off than I did two
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  Speaker 1: or three months ago. I do. I said all on
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  Speaker 1: baseball would be the guinea pig. Baseball be the template.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball is not in the bubble. Baseball's played outside in
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  Speaker 1: big stadiums on grass and so for in our country
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  Speaker 1: the MLS two, but even they were in a bubble,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Baseball was going to be the most like football,
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  Speaker 1: and baseball is gonna screw up, and so let the
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  Speaker 1: baseball folks screw up. And they did. Let the let
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  Speaker 1: the Marlins and the Cardinals mess up. And we see
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  Speaker 1: how drastic it is when they do um. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I think they. I think the belief is Johnny,
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  Speaker 1: they gotta move forward. They gotta find a way to
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  Speaker 1: move forward. And I think that, well, I lose what
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  Speaker 1: Tony did too. I think the NFL has been all
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  Speaker 1: over this thing. They always are. They pulled off the
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  Speaker 1: draft without a game, they pulled off before that free
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  Speaker 1: agency without a game. They never waiver. They said we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna play our sixteen games. They may waiver, but how
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  Speaker 1: many people are gonna watch? And so I think I
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  Speaker 1: think the NFL has been all over this. But I
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  Speaker 1: agree with what she said. We've gotta we gotta move on,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we found a way to move on.
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  Speaker 1: Baseball was sort of the template for it. I would
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  Speaker 1: be shocked. It's a That doesn't mean a football team
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have an outbreak and miss a week. I think
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  Speaker 1: that could happen college or pro. But I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if we don't finish the season of some capacity. I
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  Speaker 1: totally agree with that. You know, look, the NFL and
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  Speaker 1: NFL p A, they've all done a great job. But
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  Speaker 1: the reality of the NFL had the most time to
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  Speaker 1: prepare of any sports, you know, so they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to do anything and all the way until they got
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  Speaker 1: to the point where okay, we didn't start reporting to camp,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so they had the most time to prepare.
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  Speaker 1: They had time to learn from the mistakes of the
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  Speaker 1: other sports. Leagues, and uh, and here's the reality. The
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  Speaker 1: NFL and played the game yet you know, so let's
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  Speaker 1: let's not jump on the end wagon and pat everybody
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  Speaker 1: on the back, because you know, the reality is is
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  Speaker 1: that even if you do it perfectly, there's still a
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  Speaker 1: risk that certain things end up coming up that's going
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  Speaker 1: to interrupt the game. And so so until we get
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  Speaker 1: to where the games are actually played and things of
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  Speaker 1: that nature, you know, you've got to kind of hauld
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  Speaker 1: off judgment because the reality is, this is something we've
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  Speaker 1: ever dealt with as a as a as a as
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  Speaker 1: a league, right. I mean, I think what the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and sports league had to deal with a pandemic years
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  Speaker 1: and years ago. But I mean we're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: the sports leagues up today, you know, so this is
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  Speaker 1: a different landscape. And uh, and hopefully it does go
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  Speaker 1: off without a hitch, and players are smart, but we
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  Speaker 1: all know that when you're you're you're a young man
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  Speaker 1: in your early twenties, all of a sudden, once you
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  Speaker 1: get out of training camp and out of that team
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  Speaker 1: hotel and the bubble kind of opens up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little different. Yeah, we're gonna get to the
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  Speaker 1: Jags in a minute. But I want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: Tony and Jeff about what you just said. Jeff, I
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  Speaker 1: get the idea that there's maybe a disconnect between fans
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  Speaker 1: and the reality of players and sort of assume that
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  Speaker 1: players aren't going to take this seriously. Um. As former players,
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  Speaker 1: I sort of get the idea that players are going
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  Speaker 1: to be diligent about it. And maybe I'm naive, But
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  Speaker 1: what do you guys think You guys played, you were young,
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  Speaker 1: you're both relatively older players at times. How do you
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  Speaker 1: think players are gonna protest? And what's your confidence in
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  Speaker 1: how they're going to approach it? Well, John, I think
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  Speaker 1: I think this has been such a serious issue. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of awareness and most people are
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  Speaker 1: taking it serious today. Um. And and so I would
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  Speaker 1: hope that I do believe that the majority, the vast
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  Speaker 1: majority of knives will take this seriously. And I think
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  Speaker 1: I would have even as a young man, knowing that, um,
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  Speaker 1: because now you're talking about, you know, me playing football
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  Speaker 1: and me getting paid. I mean, it's my livelihood. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I remember, it's so funny. I talked to my wife
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  Speaker 1: about this and and and you know, I was having
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  Speaker 1: young kids back then when and I said, what would
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  Speaker 1: we have done? I mean having young kids at home
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  Speaker 1: and everything else like that, Um, would I have opted out?
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know what would you? How would you handle?
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  Speaker 1: And she looked at me. She says, you're not opting out.
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  Speaker 1: You can stay in a hotel for six months and
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  Speaker 1: take care of you. I mean, this is your job.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what you're supposed to do. And
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  Speaker 1: I go to work and I and I say that
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  Speaker 1: you a little tongue in cheek, But but there is
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  Speaker 1: I sense. And I haven't been around the team obviously
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  Speaker 1: because we can, but I get a sense of just
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  Speaker 1: reading and watching and this is the entire NFL. The
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  Speaker 1: guys are taking this serious and they know they have
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  Speaker 1: to be smart and if they're not, they're not only
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  Speaker 1: gonna risk their own health, but they're gonna risk the
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  Speaker 1: viability of another fifty three to fifty five guys have
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  Speaker 1: getting paid to do a job, to play football. That
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  Speaker 1: this is bigger than just them. So I think they'll
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  Speaker 1: do it. But I also know for a fact there's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be one or two knuckle heads out there. They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go do something stupid. I mean, that's just gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna happen, you know, Johnny, That's kind of what
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  Speaker 1: would be blacked them, sir, And is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can have of the guys all do it the
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  Speaker 1: right way, and then you have one that doesn't, and
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  Speaker 1: then it kind of messes it up for everybody else,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean, heck, we saw the Seattle
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks young player that tried to sneak a girl into
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  Speaker 1: the hotel. I mean, are you kidding me? So, I
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  Speaker 1: mean there's always gonna be a guy or a couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys that just that they don't have a clue.
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  Speaker 1: They're not very mature, they don't understand the gravity of
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  Speaker 1: the situation or the magnitude of the situation, and certainly
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  Speaker 1: they don't understand the economics that are at play in
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  Speaker 1: this whole situation. So, you know, you hope that they
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  Speaker 1: all take it seriously, and uh and I think most
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  Speaker 1: of them do. So we'll just see if there's that
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  Speaker 1: one or two guys that mess it up for the rest.
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  Speaker 1: We'll go to Frank first on this one, and then Jeff, Frank,
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  Speaker 1: you've been at a camp in most days. Big impression
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  Speaker 1: so far, nothing COVID related on the field. Biggest impression
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  Speaker 1: of JAG boards for a couple of weeks. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna be fun. I really like the receiving corps.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like Look for twenty five years there was
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy and Keenan out of the gate, and then there
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  Speaker 1: really hasn't been a very good receiving corps across the board.
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  Speaker 1: I like these three guys, so you have something that
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  Speaker 1: jumped off the page for me. John, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be Chanal and Shark in Westbrook when he's healthy
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  Speaker 1: in the spot. I like that group. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fun. We'll see. They haven't always been a
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  Speaker 1: fun team even when they've been good. Other than Jeff
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  Speaker 1: and Tony's early years, they haven't been fun. The Jack
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  Speaker 1: Doreal playoff team was a tough, physical team with Henderson
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  Speaker 1: and and Stroud and might Peep, but they weren't a
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  Speaker 1: fun team. The seven team team was fun because of defense,
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  Speaker 1: but they weren't going up and down the field. I
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  Speaker 1: think the team will throw it around a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: so I think that that's caught my attention. The other thing,
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  Speaker 1: John and I worry about the defensive front they've lost
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  Speaker 1: nine guys nine if you counting Gogays holding out guys
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  Speaker 1: that either opted out, got hurt, can't play because of
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  Speaker 1: health reasons. Nine that's a lot of guys that they
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: thought would be in the rotation. Now they've replaced him
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  Speaker 1: with Journey against some other guys, but that's a big number.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest problem the team Handlins and you couldn't stop
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  Speaker 1: to run, and I hope they can now. So I
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  Speaker 1: love watching the receiver's work. I hope manjus as good
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  Speaker 1: as everybody hopes it will be, because if he is,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun offense. I worry about him
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  Speaker 1: stopping the run, and that's kind of been and I
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  Speaker 1: can't I'm not smart enough to tell that by watching practice,
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  Speaker 1: but I know what the roster looks like. I hope
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  Speaker 1: Devine Hamilton's ready because he's a big, physical catman. I
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: hope Shober can help with the run defense. So that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of a good and a bad from how I
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  Speaker 1: see it. Jeff, your thoughts in the defense first, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of chuckling there because Frank used the word hope.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a lot of I hopes in there,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's the reality that is in play
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars this year. You know, you hope that
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: they can be competitive, You hope that they can improve
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: throughout the season to be something because specifically you asked
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: about the defensive side of the ball. They lost so
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: many key components. You lost your two starting corners from
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: last year, guys up front, the linebacking court that played
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: very well last year, and now you're looking at some
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: of these gaping holes because of an opt out, because
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: of a forced retirement medical concern with Rodney Gunter. Uh,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Josh Morrow looking at a five game suspension. Who a
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: guy that might have been in play for having some
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: snaps at defensive end. You got a rookie corner on
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: one side, Trey Hernon on the other. Who still is
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of an unproven commodity. The play of
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: the safeties have been just kind of okay, okay. Cholbert's
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: coming in. I like him, but at the same token,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think he had a great year last year.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: And uh, and now Miles Jack is switching positions, which
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you hope you know, there's that word again, hope. You
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: know that he's gonna be more comfortable at the week's
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: high position. So there's so many questions on defense and
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: there's not as many on offense, but there's still questions
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: on offense. I mean, is Mitshew capable of being a
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: starting caliber quarterback? You know last year he showed some
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: flashes and he could have an amazingly successful rookie year,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: but he's got limitations physically with the height, the vision um,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the arm strength I think is in question. Last year
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: at times he left the pocket when he didn't have
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to leave the pocket, but he did do some incredible
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: things when when the play broke down. So uh, a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: lot of questions and I'm hopeful, to use that word,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that they can be a competitive football team
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: this year. But make no mistake about it, They've never
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: used the term rebuild, but if you look at this
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: what they've done from the end of last year, with
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: the subtractions that they have had and the additions that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: they've had, this is a team in an organization that
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: is in rebuild mode and rebuild modes and year one
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: typically can be tough. As Tony and Jeff this I've
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: been so impressed with the receivers and especially DJ shark Um.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: How much of what you see in camp on that
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: kind of thing can translate and a shark look so
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: good and the chemistry looks so good. But are we
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: seeing it against you know, coordinators, scheme in form. How
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: much can you trust what you're seeing now? I mean
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I think you can. You can trust that you know
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: what you see in da chart more than nathing because
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he proved it last year. I mean, it's not like
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: because an anomaly. I mean the guy came out and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't stud last year and he's picking up and have
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: a good, good camp. I mean, as I watched the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: practice tape on the iPad, I mean, he's a guy
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: that you know, stands out like he looks like a
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: professional receiver. I don't know how many often we could
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: say that about guys. Um. I mean, I think it's
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a receiving cords that is exciting but still has a
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: ton of questions to me. I mean, and I get
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: what um Frank can say. It's gonna be fun, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like in my history, like I don't count on rookie
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: receivers really doing much. It's if you look historically, it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: a position that doesn't even top guys that have huge
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: years year one. I'm hoping to all does. But I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: worry about if we were gonna be counting on him
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: as one of our top guys. Like, there's a lot
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of stuff you have to prove there um and so
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I think it means something. But this, I mean, just
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to pick up a little bit on what Jeff said,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean this, if you look at this team, the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: losses that they had and kind of the path they're going,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful and I hope that things work out. But
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: let's just talk about the offense. We spent a lot
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: of time on the defense. John, We're looking at an
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: offensive line that everyone's back from last year, and I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone right now would say that they were
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: a great offensive line last year. They struggled around the ball.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You know. At one point when the team decided to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: go with Gardner Minshew over Nick Foles, the head coach said,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they chose Gardner Minshew is
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: because he could extend plays and get out of trouble
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: they need. They needed somebody who could avoid the rush.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That's not a resounding like compliment as an offensive linement,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: trust me, and so, but it's the same group. So
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: we are counting on that group to have gotten better. Now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I think Cam Robinson looks good, looks strong, footworks better
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: than I've ever seen. So those are all positives. You
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: like the rookie tackle. I mean, so there's bits and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: pieces there, But there are so many questions across the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: board for this team. Um, it's gonna be really interesting.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: And with no preseason, I'll circle all the way back
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: where you started. You asked about the receivers. I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it's hard to tell what you're going to get because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the way they practiced day in the NFL and they
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: only have fourteen padded practices, it's limited, limited, limited, limited,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and guys are getting maintenance days that our second year players,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: so it's limited reption. It's like, like, honestly, when I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: heard that, like Josh Allen's getting in, Gardner Minshew had
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: maintenance days, I'm like, have they just been here like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a month? And Gardner Minshew is a guy who's in
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a brand new offense with a brand new coordinator who
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: started ten games last year, and somehow we're gonna give
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: a day off like when he only has limited reps
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and no preseason, Like I'm given that guy every rep,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like in the world. It wasn't like I think training
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: camp was four months with three days when you guys
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: played right based on the maintenance days. I promise you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: we need have maintenance days. What was Conflin's version of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: a maintenance stage? Ye? Uh, day off you have to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: give you got was when you put the fifth on
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the desk card and said you have to give the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: players the day half. That's about it. It's surely people
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: will never understand the difference, but it's a It's amazing.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: He spent ten years now and he still don't get
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: used to it. Hey, uh, Scar on the horn, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: want to have two final questions each, Frank, what do
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you need to see from Menshew this year to make
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you nuts? What everybody wants to know? Jeff touched on
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: some liabilities. What do you got to see from him?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: For me? Number one? I like a lot when I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: see I think he's got a good arm, not a
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: great arm. He was very honest. He was on Serious
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: NFL or Serious x M, and he said, look, I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: never gonna have a plus arm by standards in this league,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and I agree with that. So he's a guy that's
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: gonna have to step into he's gonna have to have
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a clean pocket or a moving one. He's gonna have
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to step into his throws. Um. He
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: can't be falling backwards and throw off his back foot
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: because he can't make depth through. There's some guys in
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the league that can Russell Wilson gonna make depth throw
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: John I don't think he can make that, So he's
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: got to make the right choices. What I love is
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I think he throws a
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: really accurate deep ball when he's got a clean pocket
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and can kind of drop it off the table. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: he's got to prove to me that he understands those limitations.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I think he does do twenty one touchdowns only six
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: picks last year, but I want to see that he
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: can win from the pocket. I want to see that
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: they can create a pocket right, that they can be
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a more conventional team. I know the game is different
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: now than some RPO and they're moving pockets more, but
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you still gotta win an NFL game from the pocket.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: So I want to see that it can look more traditional,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that he can be as effective in that pocket as
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he was out of it last year. And I'd like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to see that earlier. I'm excited about the kid. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: William John. I know those limitations, but I think he's winner.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think as respond to him. I think you can
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: sense that one day. I was out of practice last
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: week and I thought, uh, Juwan Taylor jumped and Mince
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you really got on him about it been in a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: positive way. Gosh, a year ago, the culture that team
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: was such that people be yelling at each other. Nobody.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He jumped, Michi goes, come on man and and it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: was over. And that's what leaders do. They leave the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: right way. So there's a lot I like about him.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: He's got to play from a clean pocket, improved he
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: can win though the pocket. For me, that's Jeff. First,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: tell me what the arm strength means the gardener can't
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: do and what I don't watch tape as much as
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you do. What can't he do because of the arm
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that concerns you? And then what do you need to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: see from him this year? Well, I mean the windows
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League are small, and so sometimes
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: arms strength is gonna open that window up a little
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: bit more, you know, throwing and out, you know, So
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: arm strength gives you the entire field and it makes
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: coordinators play the entire field. Um, not having the arm strength?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: What are my concerned? Well that then you know that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: they don't play the whole field, you know. Can he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: see the middle of the field? Can he throw the
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: past like Dan Marino would throw? I mean, looked Dan
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Marino had an incredible arm, and not many people had
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: an arm like him. But there are certain times where
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the arm strength is needed to where it's gonna squeeze
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that ball in there, you know. But but on the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: other side of that, Johnny, there's been a lot of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: great quarterbacks in National Football League that have lived without
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: arm strengths, and they've been able to make up the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: lack of arm strengths with the mental cootie. You know,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: whether it been a Joe Montana who had a very
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: very average arm, and then you go all the way
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to maybe one of the worst arms of the National
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Football League, which was Chad Pennington. We used to joke
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: around that, we used to call lollipop on. I mean,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: he couldn't throw a pass that was anywhere close to
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: parallel to the ground. I mean it looked like a
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: roller coaster, that big giant hill, you know, So can
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: he Gardner minshould do that. Absolutely he can do that,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: but it's gonna take a lot of them, the mental anticipation,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the understanding of defense, and things of that nature to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: where he's throwing way on time and way before time,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and hopefully we can see some of that he can
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: develop that. Tony, you see more quarterbacks up close than
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: any of us because of your Westwood One role. Uh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: what do you think of his chances compared to the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: rest of these quarterbacks. Is he a guy that can
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: do this? Um, it's a great question. I'll be honest,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride the fence. I think it's too early.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: The sample size is too small. I agree with everything
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that you know. Jeff and Frank said, Um, you can
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: find uh, you can find out liars. You can find
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: guys that are similar that have had great um careers,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: but they have they do something special that no one
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: else did. I mean, you could argue that Drew Brees
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: post rotator cuff never had the strongest armies similar size,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: but Drew Brees is one of the greatest cockey at
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: little guy quarterbacks who sees things and anticipates things when
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even see him going across the middle. Because
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: he knows right where everyone's gonna be. I mean, he
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: is uncanny, um. And so I think you to be
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: really good, you have to either have a really good
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: over the top of like a bunch of things, or
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you have to be super special at something. And the
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: question is is what is that thing that Gardner is
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: super special? I don't know yet. Um. He's a great competitor.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I loved, loved what he did last year as a rookie. Um,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: how he came in and just competed day in and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: day out. But let's also not forget he let an
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: offense and scored twenty one points over seven games. In
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the first half they were abysmal. Um. And so that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: worries me. Uh And and so you look at the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: whole thing, and the question I always asked, and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: think this is the question every franchise hasked to ask
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: themselves about that position. Is this a guy who will
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: help me hold up the Lambardi Trophy? And if he's not,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: then you gotta go find that guy? Um. And right now,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: would I bet everything that Gard's that guy. I don't
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: know how much money I put down that bed, um,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm interested to see I'm not saying he can't
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: be because he has some special He has some interesting
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: things that I'm intrigued with. But um, as I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: about last year and is what I want to see,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and I've watched a little bit on tape. He put
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: throws a beautiful long ball. It's gorgeous, it's accurate. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: then times I watched, like the easy throws that they're
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just supposed to be in rhythm across the middle or
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the out I'm like, was the receiver at the wrong
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: level or did he just missed that bad um? If
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: his feet aren't set perfectly where everything's clean, can he
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: drive and make the hard throw? Um? You know, can
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: he do it on time? I think one of the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: things what made him special last year is it was
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: the off schedule play. How how often did he sit
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: in the pocket, hit his fifth step, take the one
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: hitch and drive the ball where we're supposed to go.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of times. There was a lot of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: off schedule like fun things a call, and so I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: think you had to do those things and then the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: off schedule things be come the extra Um. I'm intrigued. Um.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I think the offensive lines you have to play well,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they need to keep it clean back there for him,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I think they have to have a running game. Watching
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the tape some practices, it looks like we've got it something,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: don't that's camp that can happen. Um. So those are
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: all things that go into it to me right now,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: looking around the league, I just don't know. There's things
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: he does that I really like, and other times I'm
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: watching him like, huh, is that a guy that's gonna
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: help this organization hold up the Lombardi Trophy? And I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just don't know it. Johnny, can I jump in here
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: real quick? I want to make one comment because it
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: kind of kind of tails with what Tony is talking
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: about right there. The one thing I think that's real
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: hard even for me, and maybe it is for Tony
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: as well, is that, you know, typically this time of year,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we've got a couple of preseason games on the rough
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: belt to where we're comparing the play of player X
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: against other NFL caliber talent, you know, and sometimes when
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you continue to watch a guy and he's going against
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the same guys all the time, it's hard to get
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a gay just to where they're at, you know. So,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: so I think it's a and I think that that
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that's thing that the same exact things falls for the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: people they're gonna be making the decision on the final
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: roster and the coaches that are gonna be choosing who's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: going to be getting the most playing time, and that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of the decisions that they're gonna be making,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: whether it be for rosters or playing time or et cetera,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: are gonna be made based on a lot of faith
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: because they haven't seen these players against other NFL caliber competition,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and it makes it extremely difficult to judge kind of
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: where individuals are at, and also in some cases where
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a team is at very quickly. Each one of you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: do we finished the season? And how did the Jaguars do? Frank?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna play all sixteen games. I think
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: some teams could miss. But I don't think we're gonna
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: shut it down, you know. I think in the upside,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I think these guys said it it's a rebuilding year.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's crazy to think they're gonna be a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: tenor leven win team. I also don't think they're gonna
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: be as lousy as the Leak, thanks Sean, and gonna
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: win three or four games. So yeah, I think they
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: can win six having games and the ball bounces right
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: more than that. But I think it's a rebuild. It's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a lot there's not a lot of veteran elite players.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Most teams that have special years, there's some veteran elite
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: players on your roster, and when you and when you rebuild,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and when Boyer's gone and Calais has gone, the next
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: guy's gone, you don't have a lot of there's not
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: veteran elite players on here. There's young players who might
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: become elite. So I think to your question, I think
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna finish the season. I think we're gonna get
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: them all in. Uh, someone may miss the game along
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the way, but I don't think we're gonna pull the plug.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And I think the Jags, that the ball bounces right,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: can can be a five dred team. Uh. And you're
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: one of what this rebuild is these guys are talking
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: about and um, but I don't think they're gonna be
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a great team yet. And I don't think they're gonna
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: be as bad as the whole league fixture gonna be.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Jeff Dee finish and how did the Jags do? Uh? Boy,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: let me let me break up my Johnny Carson crystal
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: ball and put on my Sammy hat here right. Uh yeah,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I think that sixth team will be played, and I've
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: say I'm very hopeful with that number. As far as
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: uh total wins, I'm probably right around five ish, you know.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And and my my whole thought is with five is
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is how does the five look? Because five can look
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: good and five can look bad. If if a football
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: team is looking like a team and rebuild note early
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: early in the season, and then all of a sudden
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it starts playing closer football games and then it starts
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: winning games late in the season, you feel good about
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: five as far as a team that's rebuilding, and then
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, some way you can find
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a way to get six or holy cow, seven, you'll
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: be like ecstatic. I mean, in my book, so I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be I don't want to say
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a realist. I just think that boy, with all
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the change that this organizations has gone through and with
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the environment that it's had to function in. As with
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: all this change, I think it's an incredibly challenging year.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: And if they can get to five six wins, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: think that that's a solid season. Seven I think would
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: be outstanding on an outstanding job by the coaching staff.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: We'll close it out with the pride of Jaguars. Yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: lots be clear. You know Free keeps on saying those
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: guys say rebuilding here. I don't like that terminology because
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that's not what we've heard coming into the season. The
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: part of the purpose was that this is a team
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: that could compete and win. And it's hard for me
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and I think the fans struggle with that is saying, wait,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: we were we want six games last year? Is how
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do you rebuild on that? I mean, that's the hard
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: part where this organization is. And that's why I'm rooting
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: so hard for him because you know you want success
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: because you know you want it for Sean Kag you
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: wanted for Dave and Doug, and we wanted for the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: player at the fans, I mean you want them to
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: be have success. Um. So with that said, Um, to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: answer your question, I think we get sixteen in. I'm
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: fascinated what it looks like and because it's I don't
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: think it's a baseball where a team can miss a week,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: then how do you reschedule? It's not like, hey, we're
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gonna playing a double header next week, you know, and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: figure that out. And so so I think you have
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a regular season, and you're gonna have the playoffs, you
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: have a super Bowl. Does every team play fifty sixteen games?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Who knows? It's gonna be crazy? Um, And as far
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: as with the Jaguars schedule or win record record is
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be, I would hate to pick games this year
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: because what happens week you know, Week one, you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the night before Philip Rivers gets you know, it's like, well,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I feel better about that game now. I mean, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you just kind of go down the path and you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: were counting on so many young players. And I said
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: this the other day. I'm like I could see this.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Soone asked, what's the ceiling for this team? Nine ten wins?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Like you're crazy, I said, okay, if Gardner Minshew is
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: who he showed as a rookie, and now all of
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a sudden goes from one and ten to thirty two
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and ten. And Leonard for Nette runs like his life
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: depends on it because he's in a contract here, which
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: we see all the time. And Caber obviously plays like
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: he's in a contract year and John Taylor takes a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: step up and chart is for real, and you hit
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: on Sinalt and Tyler Iford's stays healthy. Oh, I like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: this offense pretty good all of a sudden, And if
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is the record that we think he can
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be watching him the practice he's dominant, and the run
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: young quarter Miles Jack figures out, you know, to rewind
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the clock a few years. Well, now, all of a sudden,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: this is a different team to me. And then you
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: have the wild uncertainty is about who's gonna be playing
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: weekend and week out because of COVID and testing everything else.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. Um, if you just looked at
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: it of their young it's a young team, a lot
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: of departures, you know, and holes in the defense. I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think like people who say nationally this is a
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you know, three to five win team, I get um,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: But in my gut, I think they find a win
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: a way to win six or seven. Here's my solution, Frank,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And you guys may have played at different ways. That is, Frank,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: maybe we were coming high school sports and they had
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the spring jamber a quarter here, quarter a quarter. That's
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: how you all of it. Frank put them all in
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a bubble and play jamble. We'll put them on the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: bubble and floor. We love. One quarter is good. At
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: one quarter, I'm ready. I'm ready. It's called one quarter football.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, Johnny, it's funny, like we talked
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: about this, but to think how far we've come. And
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I'll des send with this. I mean the fact that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: thankfully we're talking about pointing football at all, because like
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: to your point a few months ago, and I'll say this,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I was in Tallahassee last week and watch the Florida
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: States seven all scrimmage and it was like a normal
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: practice sitting the fan, and I'm like, wait a second,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like this is actually kind of exciting. It looks like,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you know, people playing football, and like I think we
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: can get there, and I'm hoping we do. And again
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I'll just end it with hats off to the Players Association.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I think the leadership there at the union and the
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: UH Commissioner's office and all the owners I mean to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: get give us a chance without making it a complete disaster.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I think, um, hopefully we'll get to play football this year.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It's off to all you guys. Tony Jeff Frank, I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: can talk football to day with you. I appreciate you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: joining me and we'll see you guys very soon, hopefully,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Faith to faith and making hands on debt. It's a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: busy time of year. Everybody's a practice of hot so
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the five months that they gave is Dave.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I thought what was interesting. I think what you can
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: provide a lot of insight on when Frank and Jeff
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: were talking at the top of the podcast about what
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the broadcast is going to sound like and what for
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the people involved that he's yourself, it's gonna look like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: take me to broadcast school, if you will, or engineer school.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: What are you guys going through to get this thing
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: set up in a virtual world? Well, I mean it's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: really taking a lot of effort, uh myself. Joe Fortunado,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: who helps edit this podcast, he's also there's also our
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: manager of radio, so he's our producer on the radio
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: broadcast he's working on on Jason d and one of
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: our I T guys. He's also kind of a broadcast engineer.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Patrick Evanaugh. We're all kind of throwing throwing a lot
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: of stuff at the wall to make this happen. But
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know, the homebrew podcast is gonna be how it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is if you're not gonna know it's a different the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: road broadcasts, so we're not traveling, so we're getting a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: lot of different feeds from a lot of different places.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: So right now we're working through with the NFL about
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: what feeds we get back, whether it's because to call
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: a game, you know, there's a lot more nuance, especially
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: for those analysts like Jeff and Tony about what they see.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So not being able to see the game and watching
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: matchups and stuff, it's gonna be tough for them and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to adjust. So we're working on getting
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: feeds from those games into the stadium that we can
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: they can then watch. We're working through the NFL with that. Um.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You know, there's some stuff still going through. And then
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the other thing too, something you probably don't think about,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: is what about the crowd mix and what about what
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: what's piping through there? Um, So we have to that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: has to get sent to us somehow. Um. And we're
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: working through all that. And the funny part is is
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the radio booth on road games is gonna move to
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the TV booth here in our stadium. We're like Jim
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Nance to Tony Romo would be if they were doing
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: a game here, because there's a lot of KM activity
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: in that room because they do the TV broadcasting there.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So we're kind of piggyback and off that room. And
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: we're actually this weekend and we're recording this on Friday.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go through and figure out what everybody wants,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: how the boots gonna be set up, and Joe is
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: gonna gonna go through with those guys and and um
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and you know the other part of it too, which
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: again it's another thing that Joe's ultimate concern, you know,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: is how we're gonna see to go to commercial because
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: we can't just watch the broadcast and go to commercials
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: because because because you don't want to, we don't want
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to miss a play. So you need as much time
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: to get enough heads up that hey, the broadcast is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: going to commercials. So and normally for you this is
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: kind of inside football. There's a guy on the field.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: He usually has the big orange gloves. If you ever
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: come to a jazz game, you see a guy waving
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: his arms across his arms with big orange gloves on. Well,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he's telling the TVs and the radio is doing the
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: broadcast that hey we're going to commercial break. He's kind
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: of the go between the rest and the TV truck.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a lot that goes into it and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: not a whole lot of time to solve it. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: luckily for us, are first road game is is week two,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: so it gives us a little extra week two to
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: figure things out. But it's just kind of a little
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: inside football. I think it's all interesting, especially in this
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: year of it just seems like I always describe it,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it's like everything's like hard and it takes time to
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: figure out. And the other thing too, is I've been
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: kind of saying, is in our broadcast world, it's even
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: doing this podcast right, it's we're doing it over zoom.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: We're not doing it in a studio. It'd be a
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: lot easier if you and I were both out of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Mike recording it. We go and edit it real quick.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Now we're doing this over zoom, and it doesn't sound
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: as good. But it's like the situation, what the world is?
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I think with everything, it's like nothing, no situation is
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be ideal. It's how to make it as good
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: as you can, right, I think we talked about this,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: probably after a podcast. I don't know that we actually
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: talked about it on the year, so to speak. But
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I recall asking you a few months ago what this
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: world would have been like, I mean, what our work
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: would have been like. How would have done our jobs?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: You talk about it not being perfect, but it's so
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: far ahead of where we would have been ten years ago.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's can you imagine trying to do the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: job bringing fans the content? You know, you can make
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: an argument that there are a lot of things about
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the NFL that when the fans watch us, the way
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the fans consume the information maybe hasn't changed that much
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: except they're looking at us in boxes rather than when
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Brian and Ashley and I are doing drivetime. We're in
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: boxes now rather than on a desk. But beyond that,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of coverage, even the draft many camp, what
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we bring them hasn't changed. Boy, that wouldn't have been
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the case ten years ago. Dave, No, it would not
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: have been. I mean, the skypes and the zooms and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the you know, everything else that that's at our disposal
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: out makes things a lot easier. And the biggest thing
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: is like using the best tools you can and then
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: figure out how to implement them into what you do.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's relatively easy for you and I to get on
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: a zoom call or for me to get a player
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: on a zoom call and do an interview. But zoom
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: calls don't solve broadcast issues. For the most part. This
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: is a different game. You guys are playing and trying
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: to bring a game live and fans. Yeah, it is.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It is a much different issue. Um. And also there's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, there's the television rights
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: deals that you know, the NFL has to figure out
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: how to give us a secure, um, a secure feed
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: of the game. Um. And depending on those views like
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the All twenty two camera, I mean that's for coaches
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and stuff. Um. And they don't want that getting out
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: or any way to see that. So you know, that's
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: also another hurdle that you have to kind of get over. UM.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: You know. A lot of it too, is is with
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Frank and Jeff and Tony is they got to figure
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: out personal preferences, what they want to see, what helps
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: them the most, what doesn't work for them. Um. You know,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it's just and also there's no preseason and tested, tested,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: out either. Fans talk about preseason games for players, but
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: probably preseason might be bigger in terms of preparing for
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the entire NFL infrastructure of fans, broadcasts, et cetera. Players
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: and coaches sort of know what they're gonna do and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they're gonna go out there in the field and do it.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: But a preseason for people who are running game experience
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: for you guys, that's when you figure out the nuts
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and bolts details of it and guess what dave you're
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: doing that live this year. No, And that's the other
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: thing too, is you know, when we cover a game
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: and we shoot a game, we gotta figure out how
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to do it differently because now there's all these protocols
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and rules and we're gonna be shooting from different spots
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and in the stands and and we've never done that,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure that out, um, kind of
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: in theory, not in practice. And then even same with
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: if you take it outside of our world. I mean,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: we have all these new protocols for fans to come
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: in the stadium, where it's taking temperatures, questionnaire, wearing masks,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: how we're paying for food. I mean, you know there's
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna be cash in the stadium, exchanging hands. So
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: it's a new app based system. We're ordering food, You're
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: not just you're not coming in, you know, tenements before kickoff,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: running up the ramps and sitting down in your seat anymore.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Fans have to learn that. Events staff has to learn that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And that's the one thing where we missed preseason this year,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: especially how the world is different. You know, preseason is
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: always the dress rehearsal because there's not as many people here,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: so it's easy to try to work out those kinks.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: So it'll be Week one will be interesting. You know. Again,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be ideal, but we'll get through it. Well,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: history shows us anything, especially the broadcast end out, I
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: can speak with confidence it won't be perfect, but it
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: will be very very good because the Jaguars broadcasting will
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: pull it off. And part of that Jaguars broadcast team.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Segueing to the end here, Dave is Joe Fortunado, who
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: again I want to thank for always making this sound good.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Daved Campas for making me look better than I actually am.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: It's sound bay than I actually am. I For those
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: of you who are interested in how the Jaguars broadcast,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: get to the fans and the Jaguars broadcasters feel about
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the team. I don't think this one sucked at all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: We'll try better next week. Thanks for joining us.